KK2.0 Multicopter ESC Calibration, Motor Layout, and Auto-Level w/ Default Settings on AeroSky Quad
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- Опубліковано 29 кві 2013
- This is a continuation in a series of getting an AeroSky Quadcopter running with the KK 2.0 board. The first video walked through the KK2.0 firmware upgrade:
• How to Upgrade Hobby K...
This video demonstrates how to get your quad in the air without any tuning and flying in auto-level mode. I walk you through ESC calibration, motor layout, accelerometer calibration, and using the default settings. As you can tell from the vid the quad flies pretty well, but there is still some tuning that needs to be done.
In the next vid I will walk through tuning the KK2.0 and getting everything dialed in so that even a novice can fly the quad.
Thank you very much Sir! This video really helped me setup the KK2. I am a fixed wing man who is new to quads. Thanks again for taking the time to make this vid. Chris, UK
No problem. I'm glad to hear you figured it out. I had this problem when I first got my KK2, but switched to X mode and everything was flying nicely.
No problem, Frank. I'm currently doing a KK2 build right now and am having all sorts of problems. I just posted a vid about it. I think the board is defective. Anyway, I'm glad this helped and thanks for watching.
Dennis both tips you provide are very sound, will give them a try on my next go. Thank you very much for taking the time to research and post that!
Gordon, thank you for the feedback. It's very much appreciated.
No problem at all. Thank you for the feedback and I'm glad it helped.
Thanks for posting this video....it helped me solve one small problem with getting my board going!!
great guide, this was truly big help for someone who is about to build quad with KK2.1.5 and has no idea what to do with it :D Thanks!
Samppanen No problem. Thanks for watching and the feedback.
This is one of the best videos on the subject.
Thank you for the feedback. I didn't realize how popular the AeroSky quad is, but a lot of people are flying with it from what I can tell. I have another AeroSky quad that someone shipped me to help with so I'll be doing some more config stuff. Yes, that's a mini that I built almost 2 years ago and is a great place to skate when it's too hot or raining outside :)
The only video on UA-cam witch accurate information. Thanks Man!!
You are definitely right. I had the KK1 from HobbyKing and it was such a pain to tune with the analog pots, but this KK2 with LCD screen is incredible. You can argue that it's even better than Naza given the screen and low cost.
Definitely...and it works nicely. Thanks for the comment.
Sounds like a plan. Good luck and keep us posted.
Jose, thank you for the feedback. For the time being we're going to stick with the AeroSky TX but I do plan on doing more vids with the 9X and my other quads. I plan on doing one more vid that shows how I got my PI settings for the AeroSky quad.
Thanks for the input. I set 60/30 on the p &i gains and it does good. I still need v1.5 though for quicker response. I crashed today so now I really have problems. Rebuild!
glad I've found your channel Dennis your info is invaluable to a newbie like me..a big thumbs up!
Man thanks :)
tank yoy sir, i have been having issues with my hex, but you set it straight.. WELL DONE and thank you TU
+Mishal Alkhodair Appreciate that. Thanks for the good words and glad you got it working.
Hey guys!!! This is really useful! If you have a KK2 board, make it so your auto-leveling on/off is set to aux1!
Right. Or you can use your sticks to configure auto-level should you choose to do so. But I really like being able to toggle in-air with a switch.
Good to know. I just posted a vid where my PI settings where pretty close to yours (75/40). Good luck with your KK firmware upgrade and rebuild.
Hi Jack, thanks for the feedback. I just subscribed to your channel and will be following your mini quad project since I'm doing the same right now. Best of luck with it and look forward to seeing you get in the air.
Absolutely. I think I'm going to make it the default flight controller for my next quad setup.
Great video. I got mine flying because of your video. Thank you.
Micro Quads No problem. Glad you're in the air!
You're definitely right. I'm always amazed how you can get a cheap controller for $15 and have a pretty awesome quad. The MWC is a good FC for the money. But you definitely can't go wrong with the KK2.
Yeah you're the man for this video. Is that a mini ramp in your garage? You're like the coolest guy ever lol.
Good to know that your motors and ESCs are working properly and it sounds like your throttle channels is normal and not reversed. The next thing I would try is your rudder channel to see if you can arm your KK by pushing your throttle stick to the left.
I personally think the KK2 LCD is the best flight controller for the money. I fly them in my AP quads and never have any problems. And the simplicity of tuning is just amazing!
Dennis you must have the best much watch how to video on UA-cam for the KK2 board..... I thank you.... God bless
Just about to build my first 250 quad and found your vid. I got the kk2.1.5 board and was looking for set up info, thanks
snowy511 You bet. Thanks for watching and good luck with your setup.
Thanks Larry. I'm getting close to having it dialed in and then I'll ship it back up your way and let you have a maiden flight with it.
Yeah I'm actually building a fpv turnigy microquad which uses the kk2 board also. Your knowledge of the kk2 board is quite universal though. I also like that you're using like the cheapest controller ever and don't even care lol. It's all about love for the hobby man.
thank's dennis you bailed me out again... i know this board is easy ..but i haven't used kk2 for a long time.. and forgot a few things great video thank's...frank
ottimo video molto utile a chi vuole iniziare grazie per averlo postato
Thanks a lot for getting back to me!
such a master piece! I appreciate for this video. this was all what i need.!!!
+Aytekin Akkaya Glad to hear it. Thanks for the feedback.
thanks my friend ,,,good job.. i finally found this video that could help me to sincronize my sk450.. thanks
rene lomas rodriguez No problem. Thanks for watching.
Great set up video.
Thanks a lot. great explanation helped me to start up my KK2.1.5 Flight Controller.
+Mahmoud Sabalbal Thank you and glad to hear you got it configured.
Again you save the day!
Way kool man
No problem. Good luck with your setup and let me know if you have any more questions.
Yes. I should have it ready in the next day or two. Thanks for watching.
wow you been so much help hopefully you do go with the 9x for this quad.
and do a bit more vids before you send it back.if not oh well.
THANK YOU!!!
Sir ,you are great .it helped me a lot
Yeah that would be pretty tight. If you haven't seen it already check out the intro to Pretty Sweet. A lot of it was filmed with a quadcopter. If you search my channel for "FPV Quadcopter and Aerial Video for Intro in Pretty Sweet Skateboarding Video" you hear my commentary on it and see part of the intro.
thank you sir
your channel explain much good than others 🎮
Thank you.
yippie!!!... PI setting comming next
Sorry to hear that. Make sure that you have proper vibration damping as I've heard that some of these boards do crazy things when there are too many vibes. Were you hovering okay and all of a sudden it flipped over?
Sounds like that came out of nowhere. I had a problem with my ArduCopter where this happened once and never really understood what happened. It took a while to regain confidence to get it back in the air again. Hope you didn't sustain much damage.
very informative video , good job sir . keep it up
Thanks. I appreciate it.
No problem. That sounds like a royal pain. Have you experimented with using a fixed ID for binding? I know the WK-2801 supports it and from what I understand binding happens much quicker, which may allow you to get around this problem.
You don't technically need a PDB, but you need a way to power all your ESCs from your battery. The PDB is generally the cleanest way to do this, but if you look around for pigtails you'll see that you can have power from your battery cable split into multiple leads to feed your ESCs. You can even make your own, which I've done a few times. It's kind of a pain but sometimes gets the job done nicely.
awesome video man. keep it up.
Bruno, thank you and glad it helped.
Yes, this could carry a GoPro. You'll need a good way to mount it or a gimbal. There's a tab on the bottom plate that you could mount it to. Yes, auto-level returns the quad back to level if you're pitching and rolling in any direction.
In my opinion NAZA does...especially with GPS. It comes at a price quite a bit more than KK2, but it's really a great flight controller. I started with the KK1 and then upgraded to NAZA. I still like KK2 for my cheaper builds.
cheers for the video very helpfull !
Right :) Arming is necessary and you only need to learn how to do it once. Unless you switch to a different flight controller where the arming sequence is different. Hope you're in the air now.
Are you flying with a 3S or 4S lipo? Also, make sure you've done the ESC calibration routine which will set your low and high endpoints. If they're not calibrated you may not be getting the full range of throttle. Are you able to get your quad off the ground and hover?
and another tip I read from RC Groups:
"if i remember correct once the devo is binded to the rx you can unplug the battery to the rx and it remembers the ID ...so try this...turn on the tx , plug in the battery to the rx and let them bind...then unplug the battery and place the throttle to high position then plug the battery back in and the tx/rx should rebind quickly and allow you to do the calibration..."
That depends, if the frame has one built in or not. But Yes you always need one. Just check if its built into the frame like Hobbykings Q450 with PCB.
Thanks !
A 25-30C rating should be okay. The AeroSky that I have does not have prop washers. I definitely recommend upgrading to the Turnigy 9X at some point. Just keep in mind you'll need to get a new RX because the AeroSky RX isn't compatible.
I would say a good battery would be something like a 3S 2500 mA or 3000 mA battery. You could probably go a little larger, but you'll need to consider the weight that this will add to your setup.
ok well i got the the same quad as the one in your video and i notice that it all ready came with the 5ch and auto level.i know you told me witch battery to use but what about the c rating.and when i put on the props i notice that it came with washers should i put them on?does yours have washers.oh and also do you thing i should upgrade to the 9x or just use the aerosky.thanks for the feed back.
thanks m8 great vid
No problem. Thanks for following along.
What gives an error? Your DEVO7 or KK2? I've done this with the Walkera WK-2801Pro so I would expect that you'd be able to do this with the DEVO7.
Hello and thanks I will subscribe for sure nice to see some great vids for beginners. I'm waiting for all the parts to build one. How did you power up your LED lights? Through the battery itself or can you do this through the board? Thank you again!
Right now they are powered directly from the flight battery but I don't see why it couldn't be powered from the board if you can find a 5V output source.
Dennis Baldwin Don't power anything from the Flight control Board. Dragging too much current through the board can burn out the tracks. The board was never designed to be a BEC. If you have no other 5 volt supply, either use the ESCs if they have inbuilt BECs or in the case of Afro ESCs or Opto ESCs buy a UBEC. Anyway most quad type LEDs use 12 volts. If your LEDs are different and require a lower voltage, usually around 3 volts use a resistor in line if the current draw isn't too large. There are some very nice, tiny voltage droppers available at BangGood. 3 to 30 volts in and dial the voltage out. Great to use if you're suffering from line interference.
Hi, I bought a turnegy micro quad with kk2 board, but I could not find a correct setup. It is very instable when self level is enable.
I already have tried a lots of configurations, but it still instable. Do you have some suggestion to me?
Thanks in advanced.
Roge
Hi Roge, I'm surprised to hear that you're having problems with stability. Especially with a ready to fly quad from HobbyKing. If it's a small quad I would recommend bringing the gains down a good bit. Do you have a link to the quad that you purchased?
thanks fore the help, wounder about battary setting, i set up mine and i looks like i dont get the power ihave , juse 5000 45-90c bat, the quad feels like its have no power even when the batt is full. hav i done any setting wrong?
Hey, Need Help !
Even after caliberating the escs the motors are not starting at the same time. What should I do?
Where should the power from my UBEC be connected ? If it's to the Rx as
it is in every other application then I don't get M1 to be the power
supply. Do I splice the UBEC into M1 Red & Brown ? There are some
critical steps in the instructions missing.
Next - when I get into
ESC calibration mode on full throttle I get 1 beep 4 times then 2 beeps 4
times then 3 X 4 then 4 X 4 etc ad infinitum. ESCs are MultiStar OPTO 20A.
yeah I've skated all my life and got some friends that are pretty epic. I wanna film them doing runs with a quadcopter. I would be so cool chasing someone down a handrail and filming it. Or chasing someone through a skate park.
Dennis thank you! With DEVO7 I get THSTK error on powering with throttle up. If I power and then raise the stick, impossible to bind afterwords.I actually gave up with the DEVO7 since my post here, and moved to a turnigy9X. I am still not flying though, for a "little problem". Posted a full report of my experience on my website, should it be of any interest.
Still interested in tips for the THSTK/throttle up issue on DEVO7 as I might want to use kk2 board with this radio on other quads. Thanks!
What do you mean by "DJI M"? Are you referring to the "DJI NAZA M"? If so, they basically do the same thing to stabilize your multirotor, but the NAZA M is a more sophisticated flight controller. It also has the ability to add GPS. At the same time the KK2 is tough to beat for the money and you can configure it without a computer since it has an LCD screen. The KK2 is obviously much cheaper too, but there is the NAZA Lite which is cheaper than the NAZA V2.
No, I haven't. Is it sluggish or non-responsive? If it's sluggish then consider turning up your gains. If it doesn't respond at all then I'm uncertain what to recommend. Does it fly okay in acro mode?
how do you add a separate acting motor onto the board, say i wanted to make a tricopter that had a drive system for taxiing how could i make this reality with the kk2?
great vid, however if I try to switch on my radio (DEVO7) with throttle up it gives an error. Kind of stuck on esc calibration with kk2 beacause of this. Would you have any hint to bypass this issue? Thanks
Hey there! do you need to have a power distribution board always for a multicopter?
can you help? motos 3 and 4 are not rotating...I have calibrated the ESCs many times. Is something wrong with the ESCs or can the problem be the bullet connectors?
Please Help
just setup my board with a fly sky remote everytime I try to take off it flips to the right ?
I am facing a problem that my kk board is showing armed after arming but when I give it some thorttle it did not rotate
Well thanks anyway. In case anybody else asks. It seemed right to put the arrow forward and the label up. My Acc Z failed because the label has to be down! Just FYI for you.
jerry zito Ah okay! I didn't even think about that, but glad to hear you got it working. Thanks for the update.
Saludos desde Colombia, por favor puede describir la electronica a utilizar, el nombre de la tarjeta controladora y como se la programa, gracias.
It was crazy to me that there was no documentation about this. Trial in error I guess! The channels on the receiver go like this:
1 = Aileron
2 = Elevator
3 = Throttle
4 = Rudder
That will match up with the inputs on the KK2. You'll generally find in most cases (not all, but most) that the ordering is fairly standard A,E,T,R. Hope this helps you get in the air. Let me know if you have any probs and please check out garagepilots . com for even more fun :)
hello Buddy,helpful video.I am having a problem with the kk2.0 (v1.5).my setting are okey(receiver test........)calibration ok.....but at the end,when i move the rudder to the right to arm the board,nothing changes.
help me to get this done please.
regards
can any of you please say why my quadcopter shows " Error. Self-level is OFF'' instead of SAFE . its keeps making sound while shows Error . I need to sort out this to fly the copter . pls help me
Ciao Dennis, ho guardato il video che mi hai consigliato ma non ho risolto il problema, o meglio non riesco a usare Alarm voltage. Nessuno mi sa dire come si fa, a questo punto penso che si possa fare il settaggio solo se la centralina di volo ha una sua batteria dedicata. Per me non c'è nessuna altra spiegazione. Ciao e grazie ancora. SILVANO
There's a chance that it will fly, but you run the risk of flipping and crashing given your throttle range for all the ESCs won't be equal. Most flight controllers will be able to detect this and won't let you arm. I don't recommend trying to fly without doing a proper ESC calibration.
How to couple or syncronize 2 kk board... Or is there some motor oitput extension board... For more than 8 motors
Could this carry a gopro? And what exactly does auto level do? Does it make it to where when you let go of the sticks it returns to level? I would appreciate your help. Thanks
Hi my friend thank you for your videos very good.. I have question if you can help I really appreciate I built one like yours but I used kk2.1EVO very good board , my question is about how can I connect the alarm sensor???, It have battery connection too ... exactly kk2.1
Wellington Andrade I've never done this before so I'm not sure. Maybe this will help: ua-cam.com/video/_jmjiIpQWTA/v-deo.html
i was looking to buy this quad but do you think i should build it my price range is $300 and if you think i should build one what transmitter and receiver shuold i get i was thinking of going with the orange t six..please reply.
After I calibrate the motors, when I move my throttle down and to the right, my board does not ARM. Did I miss something?
Pavlo Vlastos Check that your sticks are not reversed because sometimes that happens. So down and to the right physically may end up top and to the left. Most TX models have the ability to view the display of the sticks on the screen. Another issue may be that your down position isn't low enough so you may need to trim the throttle down just as a test. There are so many things that could go wrong here, but if you feel you've done the proper calibration and everything is connected correctly then it may be a TX config issue.
I have just got one of these boards and it's great, but ONLY output no. 1 works.
Does someone know how to fix it???
Sir i am using kk2.1.5 and fs 6ct6b but the verticle range of my drone is about 50metre how to increase its height?
Denis can you please help me in setting up my Kk flight controller as it disarms itself when I push on throttle.
sir which wires are you using to connect your kk to receiver
It was in a very still hover, no movement at all two feet up and it was like high rates and you pushed the right stick forward fast.
Thanks Dennis.I will explain to you, i already have a PHANTOM, i don't even like them. I'm photographer and i don't know much about quadcopter and that's why i asked for that difference between KK2 AND DJI M. I've question to you what do i need to build quadcopter with GPS? I know about FRAME, MOTORS, ESC, GPS, FLIGHT C BOARD, RECEIVER and what else i need to do that!? Why PHANTOM has MC BOARD and FLIGHT CONTROL BOARD? Where are you connect the battery power wire on the FLIGHT CONTROL BOARD.
Have you messed with your autolevel gains at all? What happens when you do an acc calibration? Perhaps you've accidentally tweaked a configuration or a sensor has gone bad. Worse case I would reload the firmware and see what happens from there.
Flies great in acro mode, however, when i switch to self level, it does not quickly self correct itself like it did when i first installed the board.