Quadcopter build - KK2.0 initial setup - eluminerRC
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2013
- This is 10th video in this video series and it's about preparing your quad for good and safe first flight.
Setup is mainly related to KK2.0 board and it's settings but also to some other steps.
Here is part list of all the parts that I am going to use until the end of this build series:
www.dropbox.com/s/zga2osf1s18...
WARNING:
Whenever you are working on a multi-rotor remove your props for safety! Although they look like toys, multi-rotors are very dangerous. If the prop hits you or anybody else it can cause serious injuries.
In first 9 videos (and 4 how-to's) we've almost build this quad. However, setting it up is even more important. If you follow these 11 steps you should have enjoyable first flight. However, certain settings as PI values cannot be set before flight. So, on maiden flight you will have to tune your quad for best performance. Settings shown in the video are great for start with, however, quad will perform sluggish and feel a bit disconnected as they are a bit low. You will have to bump PI values up, but I'll talk more about this in future videos.
STEP 1 (00:31):
To make sure nothing is left behind, reset the KK2.0 to it's factory settings.
STEP 2 (00:46):
Perform ACC calibration. This step is crucial because it tells the board what is level. Make sure the quad is on a flat and level surface when doing this. If not, board will think that this is level and it will make the quad drift once in the air. Also, don't touch the quad during this process.
STEP 3 (1:09):
In "Mode settings" put self-level feature on AUX. That way you will be able to control self-level function in the air using a switch on 5th channel. Also, on maiden flight, make sure that self-level is off. This feature must be tuned properly before using it and it could make things more complicated than necessary on your first flight. Also, check that roll and pitch axis are linked (they are by default).
STEP 4 (1:27):
In "Misc. settings" make sure height dampening function is on 0. This is cool feature, but it should be used after the quad is fully tuned. Most people refer to it as a "poor mans altitude hold" :). Also, it's more useful for beginner pilots than it is for experienced ones. Basically, this feature tries to maintain altitude when the aircraft is pitching forward by regulating throttle. Experienced pilots do this automatically so thats why it's more suited for beginners than it is for advanced pilots.
Also, if you have voltage alarm set up (check this video if you don't: • Quadcopter build - KK2... ) here you can set the voltage at which the board will start beeping. For 3S batteries 10.5V is OK (3.5V/cell).
STEP 5 (1:49):
Load QuadroCopter x-mode motor layout. Since this quad is build in X configuration, this is what you must use. Of course, if you have + or any other configuration you should load them in this step. Also, if you want to check current layout, you can do this by going into "Show motor layout" menu where you can see motor layout and motor direction.
STEP 6 (2:09):
Under receiver test you will perform most critical step. Make sure your controls are in right order. So, when you move aileron stick, the same should be happening on the board. Also, check the direction of all channels. If you move aileron to the left, board should do the same. If you have wrong channel order, you can change this in you mixer editor on the transmitter or you can change the leads order on your receiver or on the board itself. If the channel order is correct, but the directions of a channel is wrong, simply reverse/invert this channel on the transmitter.
Also, use your sub-trim function (or if you don't have one, then your main trims) to adjust main four channels to 0. That way when the stick is in the neutral position, the board will receiver exactly that.
STEP 7 (3:04):
Adjust PI values as I've shown in the video. These are recommended by KapteinKuk as best for start with. In my experience, these are a little bit low for this quad and they will have to be increased when tuning.
STEP 8 (3:55):
Set P values for self-level feature as shown in the video.
STEP 9 (4:10):
Perform ESC throttle calibration. KK2.0 makes this step really easy because you can do throttle calibration for all four ESC's at once. If all of your motors start at the same time, throttle calibration step is completed.
STEP 10 (4:50):
Motors should spin as shown in the video. If not, switch any to motor wires to reverse the motors rotation.
STEP 11 (5:22):
Apply 50% throttle and rock the quad. The motor that you push down should speed up because it tries to compensate your movement.
You need:
Transmitter, quad and a battery.
Enjoy RC as much as I do! :)
Additional information:
Video: iPhone 4
Editing: FinalCut Pro X
Music: GarageBand - Наука та технологія
Very well! Without rocking the camera, without paused slow speech, quickly and understandable, great editing! Best ratings from me, thank You very much!
I am a Naza guy, however I am building a fun fpv light racer and figured I'd give the KK board a shot since it's a third of the price. Now after watching your video, which I very much appreciate, I am very confident this board will do what I want. Thank you for the video and time you put in making it.
this is the best kg setup video ever thanks to you my drone is flying sir. Thank you very much for the help 👍
Very nice video. Just gives you the information you need. Simple to understand, perfect for any skill level. Great editing too.
Thanks!!
Terimakasih, Komandan.. Atas tutorial youtube yg dimuat. Sangat bermanfaat buat saya pada saat beli, setup awal. Terimakasih, salam hormat. Yan endigo, Surabaya, East Java, Indonesia.
Thanks for the video, I had my P-limits way too low, down in the 15-20 range. Followed your video and now I can toss it around in the air. Thanks!
I used these settings on kk 2.1.5 version- 1.9 and it is very stable now. Thank you.
Espectacular lo tuyo.,por fin alguien muestra con detalle la programacíon de este aparatito thank you te felicito daniel
Great video. Very easy to follow and good production value. Well done!
Thank you. This tutorial helps me to learn so much about setting up flight control board. This is the start of more advanced RC learning for me. Cheers! :)
Very thorough and clear, and the recap makes it perfect, thanks for the video.
Simply the best video out there for beginners like myself. Thank you so much. Very easy to follow along ! Subscribed.
Complimenti ottimo video adatto ad un neofita. Lo stavo cercando da parecchio tempo!!!!
This video is exactly what I needed. Thank you so much for the help.
Thanks a whole lot! This video was the only reason I got my first quad flying!
Thank you my boy, helped me a lot was almost playing this plaque on the wall, but after your video was much better, thank you so much!!
Thanks to your video. Finally flew with my quadX.
Awesome! Enjoy! ;)
You nailed it, first video all the info I need, excellent video.
you channel is so mutch great (i m french) and that so easy to understand . thank you a lot for all of your video. keep doing it .
thanks for this, i was looking for something like this for some time now, and this is exactly what i needed. cheers mate!
Flight went well, I used stock gain settings and it was pretty good. I might try yours and see how it goes. Many thanks again.
Excellent !!!...Thank you for this video..you saved the day for me and others with this not so ready to fly out of the box sk450...yes it will fly out of the box but short of being WILD.
Wow! Amazing video! I wish all videos were this helpful!
thanks so much ! never find something better explained....
Exellent-everything is great,background music and explanations,every videos should be like yours subed
Thanks!
Thanks! Right now I'm doing this just for fun and to help out other people. Comments like yours are my pay-check. ;)
Another great video, i know about the KK 2.0 but still had to watch your video, as they are so well made and informative, keep them coming.. :-)
Perfect, just the thing i needed to get my quad going
Thank you very much for this impressive and very useful tutorial video.
Thanks Mate well explained , and the results were perfect !!!!!
Excellent video
This tutorial saved my butt, I want to personally thank you for putting this simple and easy v0tomfollow video. I have ordered a Turnigy SK-450 with a KK2.0 board and had troubles out of the box, but this video right here fixed allmof that...I liked thumbs up and subscribe to your channel.
Sorry about the typos...
Thanks for this vid - Just about ready for this 'stage' now so going through your steps tomorrow ! Wish me luck!
Good luck! ;)
eluminerRC Thank you for this video very professional!! Okay on my KK2.0 in the Misc setting I have to keep my Minimum throttle to 20 or else all motors worn't start up at the same time. I have also calibrated my ESC's to way you have shown. Do you think this will be a problem or something like this.
No, I don't see a problem here.
Professionally done! Thank you
well made video! very clear presentation, Thank you
simple and thorough. thank you! this helped alot!
Thanks!
Excellent video. Thanks!
i just wanted to let you know i flashed my kk2 board to 1.6 firmware today and its hovering much better, thanks again for your help
great video....really helps us to understand.......
I see it. OMG thank you sooooo much ;D im searching for that thing for a month now. Thx soo much ;).
This configuration works fine on my drone, Frame style F450, engines a2212 1000kV, esc Generic 30a, KK2.1.5 mini, TR FS-CT6B. Thanks for sharing.
Great vid !
Love this vid! Great tutorial!
I also think like that. this is the best video for beginners
nice info mate, really helpful
I laughed long and hard when the extra hands.appear to help with the power up, if only! I think I will quickly go and try something funny as I edit my vid I am doing on the 9X and the ultimate upgrade you can do to it. capping it off with a bit on ER9X for beginners. Nice contribution. I have had trouble with some parts for my APM 2.5 and also some config issues so I Am putting the KK on it and going out onto the icy field to fly something. I have just about had enough of the "winter workbench" for the meanwhile. It has been a lifetime this winter. Going to try your PID and general setup for the KK2.0 V2 F.C., had it on a Tri, (my first scratch multi...) and I never dialed it in properly, and with the new frame, a Hobby King x650F(quad) , I will try to set it up and get some stable and predictable behaviour even in the -8 C temperatures. I will just bring a warm battery
Like your editing BTW :-)
Thanks! I'll keep them coming. I have some obligations now so they are coming out a bit slowly, but I'll speed that up soon. ;)
Stay tuned!
watched the vid, ill have a go when i get my program board, thanks! :)
thank you ... very nice video
Well, this is only the first part. Second part will be tuning guide. Now, these initial settings are great for quad tuning, but they will work on a tri as well. Tuning process is very similar for both, so you will be able to use those instructions on a tri. Stay tuned.
What a great video. You should be paid.Thank you much
Thanks a lot ! Grea video for a beginner like me !
Thank you! ;)
Alright thanks! You have helped me a lot already, i will send you the PM later but thanks!
Thanks! Great to hear that! :)
Depends on what transmitter you have. You can either change mixes in your transmitter or simply connect AUX from KK2.0 to the different channel on your receiver.
Well explained thnks
Thank you
Thank You 😊
Thanks it worked!
Awesome! :)
First, be 100% positive that you've performed ESC calibration properly. Try to hold buttons longer before putting throttle to idle (wait for more beeps or something). Some ESC's may behave differently.
If that doesn't work, try to switch two motors on the KK2.0 board. Switch one motor that starts normally and one it doesn't. If the problem moves with the motor, then you know that the problem is with the board. If the same motor starts late, then the problem is in ESC/motor.
Thanks!
if only I had watched this first. Could've saved myself a couple motor mounts lol
Verry nice video, this helps the noobs like me!
This speaker comes with every KK2.0 board.
Yes, I didn't mention this because I am planing to do flight video so I'll do this then. However, I fell behind schedule a lot so this is still not filmed. I don't have Tarot gimbal so can't help you with this, unfortunately.
Some more advice... adjust your P gains higher if your quad takes off and then rolls over. I used 50 as a starting point.
you are excellent !
Thank you sir! ;)
Helal reis iyi gostermissin
I won't do video about it, but this is very simple. You have 4 ESC's on a quad. Each has positive and negative wire. All you have to do is solder all positive wires together into one "group" and all negative wires together into another. Then, solder connector to this (positive to positive "group" and negative to negative) and connect the battery. It's that simple.
These power distribution boards are not anything smart, they just reduce the clutter that you get with soldering method.
Great Vid, many thanks - it's helped me a lot. Quick question, under receiver test I am unable to completely zero out the figures using thetransmitter trims .Closest I can get to is about +2/-2. (It's a cheap transmitter). Are there any settings on the KK board to help trim to zero ?
Best regard.
Very well explained your video
I have the following problem: perform all the steps you explain in the video but the engines do not move,
solamenten move when oppressed have 2 buttons, loose and stop working. Thanks for your help.
Yes. Of course, as I said in the video, you will have to tune PI setting on your maiden flight. Check KK2.0 tuning guides on UA-cam to see how to do this. I will do my one in the future as well.
great series,thanx alot.i am a beginner using the same frame as that of urs,same flight conroller, what rpm motors should i use,using 3s 2200mah LIPPO and turnigy plush 25amp ESC. ALSO how to select the prop type,slow flying or which one
It doesn't matter where you put it. And believe me, you will hear it. These alarms are crazy loud and very high pitch.
If you have any more questions, please send me a PM. Don't want to clutter comment section. Thanks!
Check my two videos: "Soldering connector" and "ESC installation". The optional SK450 PCB plate does exactly that. You solder battery leads and ESC leads to its terminals, and inside the PCB plate are connections between those. If you don't buy this optional plate, you will have to solder all ESC wires together or buy universal power distribution board. Hope that explains it.
I agree, I should have done that.
Please read the video description for additional information, tips and tricks, warnings, links and more. For everything else, please leave a comment down below. I will answer them ASAP!
Thank you for watching!
Hvala! (Thanks!) ;)
Thanks
awesome setup info! I'm having confusion setting my aux switch up on my 9xr tho to switch modes via ch5... :(
It depends on lot of things (weight, motor/prop combo, flying style, wind conditions etc.) but I usually get around 10 min. Well, if you stay out of juice, guess what... you will fall out of the sky. Not only that, your LiPo will be useless too, because LiPo's shouldn't be discharged completely. That's why you must have voltage alarm of some kind to know when your LiPo is at critical voltage (shouldn't be under 3.3V/cell) and then land as soon as possible.
in your part list, the voltage alarm that was hook up with the kk2 board is not mentioned, best build video series...
Hvalaaa :))
I suggest SunnySky x2212 980 kv motors and some 9" props. I use Graupner 9x5 props, but some SlowFly 9x4.7 will work as well. You'll fly with 8x4 or 10x4.5, don't worry. Play with this and enjoy.!
This is the the best, easy-to-understand setup for the KK2. Can these calibrations be used on a tricopter? If not, can you please make a video for it?
do you have any suggestions if my motors do not start/stop at the same time? I think I might need to update firmware on my ESC's but dont want to mess with soldering to pins if i dont have to
There is nothing to mention. Check out my voltage alarm setup video. Voltage alarm is a part of every KK2.0 board. Only thing you have to do in order to make it work is connect it to the main battery somehow.
I like this tutorial! Just one or two things. You did not mention how to ARM the KK2. I found that in another video. Also how to turn Self level using the stick option. I have a Turnigy X9 that is not as flashy as yours. Please tell me how to use one of the knobs to be able to tilt a Tarot gimbal that I plan to use under my DIY quad. Kudos!
What flight controller are you using? Did you calibrate you throttle range? which ESC's ana motors do you have exactly?
Okay thx that helped a lot. And where can i find that connector you said?
Well, it's hard to judge quads behaviour without taking off. Sometimes it seems like it will flip, but once you give it enough throttle it flies OK. These settings are not for flying. That's why I call them "initial". These are great base for tuning. I'm overdue with "tuning guide" video, but I will post one as soon as possible. However, you should definitely program the ESC, or even better, flash them with BLHeli (or SimonK) firmware. My next video is about this so check it once I upload it.
Excellent video eluminerRC. Btw one of my motors (m1) is not starting at the same time than the others can you help me on that?
Thanks for this great video, but.... I have a kk2.1 with f330 multicopter. The f330 flies well for about 10 seconds but then starts fladdering and this fladdering gets worse and worse. At the end is falls down.
Where do I have to look for the cause of this problem. Hoovering is rather well at the beginning.
Help
I can't get my motors to spin, I do the throttle pass thought and then nothing happens when I throttle up, no motors spin. Also I. Cant sub trim enough to be able to zero the channels, it's like my sticks have bad springs. 120 sub trim isn't enough to be able zero said channel. My ESCs are warm to the touch, is that correct?
thanks...
Great video eluminer. What is the firmware you got in your 9xr?
Land as soon as possible!
how do you add a separate acting motor onto the board, say i wanted to make a tricopter that had a drive system for taxiing how could i make this reality with the kk2?
Quadcopter yaws by slowing down two opposite motors. So, it's not weird if they stop at very low throttle. You can't fly with very low throttle anyways so it doesn't really matter as long as quad flies good.
thanks for the another great video!
what should i do when my right side motors starts late? my KK2 ESC calibration went successfully, i think. i also trimmed my sticks in Receiver test into zeros. i can't figure the problem so i must fly with aileron stick slightly in the left.
all four ESCs are 20Amps Turnigy Multistar. i didn't noticed any mechanical resistance on the right side motors. all motors are also same model.
problem appears on both modes (SelfLevel/Non-SelfLevel). with fw 1.5 & 1.6