I have some suggestions for new topics. The Saint Alessia Rebellion from The Elder Scrolls Universe. Lots of battles, duels and a couple of genocidal rampages that wiped out many a town in that war. For a Sci-Fi sources I highly recommend you use Starship Troopers (the book not the movie). Finally and I cannot stress this one enough for a Sci Fi source for many videos dozens, at least. The entire BOLO universe started by Keith Laumer. Not just describing the different versions of the self aware tanks, but the many battles they fight over centuries of fictional history.
@@darklordmalthric3633 They said that Rhaenys is Viserys I sister and is her cousin, they said aemond and Lucerys are cousins but are uncle and nephew and when the dance happened Rhaenyra was pregnant with his sixth child not the fourth.
@Orcaluv26 How so? No one is destroying the US and it, itself is still at the height of its power. Furthermore, civil war within the US itself is unlikely at the present due to current world affairs so I don't see how it could be the same for them but please explain. I am always looking to learn more.
@@Heisen2420 Empires that fall within never reappears again. But most empires that was conquered by foreign enemies had been weakened internally prior to invasion. They are very few cases where empires at it's peak have been conquered by a foreign adversary.
But he is absolutely the in picking the worst possible tactics for these events. For example charge into center of pikemens basically never happened. Also getting yourself yourself burn allive fighting with melee weapons on plains ...
But he is absolutely the in picking the worst possible tactics for these events. For example charge into center of pikemens basically never happened. Also getting yourself yourself burn allive fighting with melee weapons on plains ...
@@sandersbayden02old Valyria would have to be animated. There is no way to do that feasibly in live action without a stupid amount of cgi huge budget. I would watch but unfortunately there are still a lot of people that don’t watch adult animated shows. Either way, house of dragon turned me back to the game of thrones world after the series finale of got I lost interest
The is the most well put together and easy to understand Targaryen timeline of events on the internet.. Seriously, you didn't overcomplicate something that doesn't need more levels of complication.. Others have tried... And failed. Great job.
Hey people, in terms of art and animation, some parts are from our earlier videos made for Kings and Generals 2 years ago on GoT subject. Other parts are new and made for this video only. So there is a difference between styles, map design etc. The reason is this. Happy watching and see you on the next one. 🖐️
Personally I don't mind. Because that's not why I'm here, when reading history or story like GoT sometimes I got lost in some point and it's very good thing some people willingly to summarize it in form of video. Thank you for the update and may all king and general channels grow even more
I never managed to read the novels by G.R.R. Martin, but I love the world of ice and fire, so for me it is really amazing having the whole history of house targaryen summarized in a documentation. Thanks a lot for the hard work!
@@jewsco I'm notthat big of a Fan of audio books. Love to ready books myself instead. With the books of Mr. Martin I just Had the issued that the first one was soooooooo boring in the beginning, like way to many names and nothing really interesting happening. At least for my taste. I have thus issues with other great authors too, so it's not the fault of the author, just not my kind of starting a story to get me attached to it. Therefore I am really glad for all the summaries and videos about the books and the whole universe
Quite symbolic that the first battle of the Dance was an aerial duel between two dragons ridden by Targaryen princes, and the final battle of the Dance was a conventional battle between armies of men without a single Targaryen present on either side, just bannermen fighting in their name. A perfect symbolization of how the age of dragons had come to an end and where the true power now lay in Westeros.
Fact check: Rhaenyra was pregnant with her *sixth* child when she received the news of Aegon's usurpation. By this time she already had five sons: Jacaerys, Lucerys, Joffrey, Aegon, and Viserys; the child she miscarried was her daughter Visenya. Edit: Also, Queen Helaena was Queen Dowager Alicent's daughter, not her daughter-in-law.
Technically, Queen Helaena was Alicent's daughter in law as well, since she is married to Alicent's son. The Targaryen family tree is all over the place, in that family your dad could also be your uncle.
I think it was because they originally did a video on The Conquest and First Blackfyre Rebellion and they did the whole bit about The Dance because of the new series.
Same, I feel like they should have just made a separate video for Dance of the Dragons instead of trying to make one megavideo that misses out a lot of cool history, like Maegor the Cruel, Aegor Bittersteel's further rebellions, War of the Ninepenny Kings, etc. Also I thought it was odd to omit the Hour of the Wolf from the section on Dance of the Dragons.
Rhaenys and Viserys weren't brother and sister. They were cousins. Rhaenys was the first born child of King Jaeherys' third born son Aemon and Viserys was the first born of Jaeherys' 4th born son Baelon whom both were heir apparent before dying before Jaeherys. Rhaenys' line technically had the stronger claim being the first born of an elder son, but since she was female, the great counsel of 101 AC chose Viserys over Rhaenys and her son Leanor due to Viserys being the closest living male relative. They were the only 3 potential claimants to be seriously considered out of roughly a dozen potential heirs. That story is a very important precursor to the Dance of the Dragons.
Also, Haelena wasn't "only" Alicent's daughter in law, but also just her daughter, since Aegon II and Healena were siblings. Great video still, however.
"Sentient Napalm Machines" definitely sounds like a band name. But what TYPE of band? Of course grindcore or thrash metal immediately come to mind, but it might be even better for a quirky, smart-alecky band of very white men with glasses, like a cross between Might Be Giants and the Barenaked Ladies. I also like the idea of it being an early 80s hardcore punk band, but if it was, they'd shorten it to "SNM" and play on bills with JFA, DI, and DOA. Actually come to think of it, it might be a good name for a very early 90s industrial band inspired by KMFDM and Front 242--but they'd have a more sexual vibe akin to Psychic TV and the Thrill Kill Kult. They would often shorten their name to "S n M" (get it?!?) and have album art of, like, women in black leather spanking men in bondage gear. And they'd have at least one song with their own name in the lyrics, something like "Sentient Napalm Machines/Running the American Dream..."
I remember first reading the book years ago and falling in love with all the intrigue and war. Watching the same story in one of your top-notch videos is a true blessing, I've been waiting for this one. Brilliant job to everyone who worked on this!👏
@@YungFlirtZ10 The main book series is called "A Song of Ice and Fire". This video adapts the history of the House Targaryen from 2 books. "Fire & Blood" and Targaryen Kings Chapters from "The World of Ice and Fire",
It would just be a strange cultural impact to glorify sibling-marriage. It was one thing showing gross Jamie/Cersei, another showing the glorious trio of Aegon and his two sister-wives.
@@joetheperformer Well, they are making tv show apparently about Aegon's conquest. Incest was a Valyrian tradition. Makes sense since the magic that allows them to have monopoly over dragons was in the blood of 40 High Noble dragonlord families of Valyria. The Targaryens being the last remaining one, they had to interbreed to keep it pure so they could still keep riding dragons. It was like that back in Valyria (so the genes do not expand out of the 40 families) and much more hardcored now when they are the only ones left. Over time, they seemed to have kept the tradition when the dragons went extinct... but you still saw more "fresh blood" coming into their lineage. When Aegon's conquest takes place Valyrian traditions were more alive (like poligamy and incest). Incest has been practices a lot in history and this is based in history. Most of us have incest in our lineage since most have relatives from towns and small towns were most tend to be related over the centuries.
@@Alejojojo6 I always thought that incest in the macro level was a symptom of a society in decline? But I might be very very wrong about that… It is an interesting subject though. I’m honestly against the idea of glorifying incest through popular media. Bc what we show on popular mass media has a huge subtle effect on the heart and minds of people. That’s why I’m kind of okay with bringing more diversity in (without sacrificing the story, lore, and plot of the original work of art). But incest? Eesh. Idk about normalizing that kind of concept.
So in terms of military units, the Dragons are not as all powerful as I once thought. In terms of dragons against armies, the dragons need to be supported from the ground by infantry, as while devastating they are vulnerable to ranged weaponry (crossbows and Scorpions notably). Myraxes shows this, as even during the Conquering a single dragon is defeatable. You can get away with just dragons though, if you have a decisive number of them. The Battle of the Gullet shows this, as well as the dragons weakness to ranged attack. Dragon on Dragon combat however I would not advise, in any scenario really. The only example I can see of a straight victory is the battle between Aemond and Lucerys, and that only ended cleanly because Aemond outweighed Lucerys threefold (according to the book) and had years more experience riding. Every other example of combat between dragons ended in mutual defeat. Aemond himself would meet his end in what could be argued as the most even fight between dragons of the war, between himself and Daemon, but in the end the dragons were destroyed weakening both sides (as well as denying them able commanders). Aegon II too, would shatter both his legs in his fight to retake Dragonstone, and while he and Sunfyre can claim victory, again both rider and dragon were incapacitated as a result. So how should dragons be used? Several ways, I think: First, reconnaissance. Excellent flight range, fast as hell and if you choose not to engage the enemy can’t really touch you. Prince Daeron shows this, as the young man proved vital to the Hightower advance from the reach doing exactly this. Second, fire support. Dragons should not be deployed dirslectly to the frontline, anywhere. They are too valuable, costly, and are often ridden by people of supreme importance to the army overall. As such, they should be kept at maximum range most of the time, and deployed at pivotal points of the engagement. To create breaches in a wall, to curtail a cavalry charge. To break a stubborn shield wall. While a Field of Fire style decimation sounds good, the risk in my estimation is too high. Last, that I can think of anyway, deterrence. Frankly, the threat of dragons is more beneficial than actually using them. Since Harrenhall, every lord in the land knows what could happen if you piss off a dragonrider. Using them as a threat can bring rebellions to premature ends before they begin. King Jaraharys I (Spelling, I know…) famously flew to Oldtown with his dragon just to make a point, he also forgave his step-uncle Lord Baratheon very magnanimously, while they were both standing in front of his dragon eating. The Lord got the message. Dragons do not win fights by themselves, and losing one is equivalent to losing a battle by itself. But used properly, you can conquer a continent with them! [Thank you for reading, those who did! Also good job GRRM, for creating such a believable universe to discuss, and the lads at Wizards, for this ace video!]
Yup, only the show made them look like some unbeatable force and then easily to kill.... They are great but they can't help you control the land and you can kill them in battle and the rider has no protection. So it took Valyria like a thousand years to conquer the Giscari cities... What happened in Westeros was unusual but because the people didn't know how to fight the dragons.
@@Bayard1503 I don't know I feel Merexys was an extremely lucky shot through her eye was the only way to kill a fully grown adult dragon as shown through the sources the only thing that can hurt a healthy adult dragons are other adult dragons.
"When King Aenys died, he was succeeded not by his son but by his younger brother Maegor. Prince Maegor Targaryen worked as his brother's Hand but he was exiled after one too many disagreements, mainly about dealing with the Faith. Maegor flew back while riding old Balerion and claimed the Iron Throne. He swiftly crushed the Faith Militant presence in Kings Landing then flew to Oldtown and forced the High Septon to disband and outlaw the Faith Militant. To encourage citizen participation, he also put bounties on the heads and scalps of any holy man carrying arms. Many died and many more went back to their septs. He also killed two of his nephews." "The brutality and debauchery of Maegor's six year reign was so well known that when his last surviving nephew Jaehaerys made his bid for the Iron Throne, Maegor was abandoned by most of his supporters. He was found dead, seated on the Iron Throne which he so zealously clung to. And history Maegor Targaryen is forever nicknamed The Cruel."
I'm surprised they skipped that. Maegor is an iconic king, for the wrong reasons yes, but he was King. He completed the Red Keep. Smashed the Faith Militant, had such characters as lovers and wives, and died a brutal death. I hope HBO cover his story.
damn, this youtube channel deserves more than a million subs, not only they give great visual representation of the books/lore, but it has great narration as well! Can't believe i just discovered this channel now!
I watched this a while ago and tonight was wondering why the heck I couldn't find it on the Kings and generals channel. Didn't realize that there was another channel by the same creator, this is awesome!
The K&G channels always do an incredible job! And videos of this length and quality best examples of their work. Thank you again for the content you create!
My first time in this channel and i knew immediately it was related to Kings And Generals!! Dude you're my major source of ancient knowledge, both on real and fantasy worlds! Thanks for that!
wait you skipped Aenys, Maegor, Faith Militant uprising, the whole reign of Jaehaerys, Fourth Dornish War, Myrish Bloodbath, the war in the stepstones and skipped right to the dance. Thats a shame if you want to do all of the history of the Targs
It’s actually quite possible that the Targaryens fled from Valyria due to some political mishap at court and chose exile on dragonstone rather than death. The whole thing about Danys the dreamer foretelling the destruction of Valyria is likely a myth conjured up afterwards.
The Targaryens do have 'Dragon Dreams' the gift of prophecy as seen amongst many Targaryens (Daeron the Drunkard) and Blackfyres (Daemon II Blackfyre) whose visions do come true just not in the way they have interpreted. However I do think that idea that its a myth is an interesting one in this case.
Dream: _~If you stay, it’ll mean the destruction of your line~_ “Yeah, I’d rather not be a victim of political intrigue. Time to head out!” _Valyria gets destroyed_ “…..yeah! Totally knew that cataclysm was coming!”
I can’t believe I am watching these videos and reading these books. What a NERD!!!! I have an overwhelming need to beat myself up and stuff me in a locker.
This was absolutely awesome. I can't tell you how much I appreciate you going through the history step by step like this. Keep up the amazing work and you have a new subscriber!
57:26 The Starks weren't at the Battle of Kingsroad. The war was over by the time the Starks made it that far South. They didn't make it to Kings Landings until after it was taken by the Tully/Blackwater host.
@@riccardocirielli As if that matters? Valyrian freehold was still wiped out for good, so was the Targeryan dynasty eventually. Irony comes in different forms.
As a long time ASOIAF fan. Let me say great video & presentation. Truly. Sidenote I couldn't help but chuckle at 49:40 when you called the city Queen's landing. 😂 Knowing the reason being you had been saying queen a great many times at that point. Well done brother 🤘👍
A few mistakes ive noticed: You Forgot Maegor Targaryen who reigned between Aenys and Jahaerys And Viserys 2 is the brother of Aegon 3(the younger) Succession passed as follows: Aegon2 to Aegon 3 to Sons of Aegon3 (Daeron1 and Baelor1) to Aegon 3’s Brother(Viserys2) to Viserys2’s Son(Aegon4 the Unworthy)
You made a mistake with Qarth and the Red wastes. There were numerous cities around Qarth and the Red waste wasn't a desert until it's lake and rivers ran dry after the Doom.
Considering that plenty of medieval fantasy series have been covered on this channel, will Pirates of the Caribbean be covered on this channel as well?
There's not really a "war" going on in that series fron what I remember. There are some battles, but they're not really connected as part of one conflict. That being said, I'd still probably watch it.
Same here. I'd like them to affirm Daemon living after killing Aemond though, even if it means he's grievously wounded or disappears into self-imposed exile out of grief from losing his dragon.
@@dopeocalypsenow6826 that will be cool, also if they do the Nettles love story with him it will be amazing seeing them together after Daemon VS Aemond.
Watching these videos gives me a whole nother perspective on characters and events. Can you make a video about Rob's final plan and how he planned to take Casterly rock?
9:25 The Targeryans were not the only with dragonriders that survived the doom, but those others died in other ways. Most of the dragonlords, the noble dragonriding families of the Valyrian Freehold, had been at Valyria when the Doom occurred; None of them survived. Some dragonriders had been in Tyrosh and Lys at the time of the Doom, but they were killed with their dragons in the upheaval that followed. Namely we have a the dragonrider Aurion, who had been at Qohor during the doom, led an army to Valyria to reestablish the Valyrian Freehold after the doom, but disappeared with his army and dragon. This made the Targaryens the only dragonriders to survive, as they had relocated from the Freehold to Dragonstone near the Seven Kingdoms twelve years before.
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When will you cover sci fi battles?
I have some suggestions for new topics.
The Saint Alessia Rebellion from The Elder Scrolls Universe. Lots of battles, duels and a couple of genocidal rampages that wiped out many a town in that war.
For a Sci-Fi sources I highly recommend you use Starship Troopers (the book not the movie).
Finally and I cannot stress this one enough for a Sci Fi source for many videos dozens, at least.
The entire BOLO universe started by Keith Laumer. Not just describing the different versions of the self aware tanks, but the many battles they fight over centuries of fictional history.
I think you made some errors in the family tree of the Targaryens.
@@jeangale6914 like what?
@@darklordmalthric3633 They said that Rhaenys is Viserys I sister and is her cousin, they said aemond and Lucerys are cousins but are uncle and nephew and when the dance happened Rhaenyra was pregnant with his sixth child not the fourth.
The Dance of the Dragons, the Blackfyre Rebellions, Robert’s Rebellion… the Targaryen’s greatest enemy has always been themselves.
Indeed, kind of like the Romans or The Mongols. First, they destroy themselves then their enemies conquer what's left of them.
Same with the Polish Piast Dynasty
@Orcaluv26 How so? No one is destroying the US and it, itself is still at the height of its power. Furthermore, civil war within the US itself is unlikely at the present due to current world affairs so I don't see how it could be the same for them but please explain. I am always looking to learn more.
@@Heisen2420 Empires that fall within never reappears again. But most empires that was conquered by foreign enemies had been weakened internally prior to invasion. They are very few cases where empires at it's peak have been conquered by a foreign adversary.
Robert was Rhaegar’s cousin and the descendant of Aegon the Conqueror’s bastard half brother.
its almost unbelievable that a masterpiece like this is free to watch on yt
It is really well done. But far from a masterpiece.
@@MonBerry No it’s not well done; it’s filled with inaccuracies all over the place.
@@Sulla-ps3jv ???
Not sure if I should watch the whole video. I have not read the books. ..?
@@TheJandufandu only if u dont care about spoilers
"While Jacaerys was arming peasants with giant sentient napalm machines," - possibly the greatest line I have ever heard in a documentary.
42:44
I do to. Up there with "those are brave men out their... let's kill them"
It's clumsy.
4:32 “Aimed with the fantasy equivalent of weapons of mass destruction”
Now I have controlled Death. The Destroyers of kingdoms.
Say what you want about George RR Martin, the man surely knows how to create a world and a well thought out history for his stories
What else would you say?
He tweeked real historical events, the best part is that he's exactly as brutal as a parallel medevial would be.
But he is absolutely the in picking the worst possible tactics for these events. For example charge into center of pikemens basically never happened. Also getting yourself yourself burn allive fighting with melee weapons on plains ...
But he is absolutely the in picking the worst possible tactics for these events. For example charge into center of pikemens basically never happened. Also getting yourself yourself burn allive fighting with melee weapons on plains ...
all i know is the army of the dead is coming. So um i better go hide in the crypt.
A spin off of old Valyria would go so hard. Its lore and that of the far east intrigues me so much.
Been saying we need that and Robert’s rebellion turned into a show
@@sandersbayden02old Valyria would have to be animated. There is no way to do that feasibly in live action without a stupid amount of cgi huge budget. I would watch but unfortunately there are still a lot of people that don’t watch adult animated shows. Either way, house of dragon turned me back to the game of thrones world after the series finale of got I lost interest
Me to!
@@sandersbayden02 Even the invasion of the Andals, The first Long Night, The children of the forest vs the first men
@@EJD339family guy Simpsons and American dad have left the chat. I think if it was done in comedy it could go very far.
This is pretty interesting. They should make a TV series about it.
Funny you mention that.
True. But we all will probably get disappointed at the end...
Ha. Ha. Ha.
@@Noone91875 That's the joke, genius
The is the most well put together and easy to understand Targaryen timeline of events on the internet.. Seriously, you didn't overcomplicate something that doesn't need more levels of complication.. Others have tried... And failed. Great job.
I could not agree more. This well done.
Hell yeah. Base on this, I'm extra excited to see how House of Dragon adapts the intriguing tale🤤😍
A lot of the information is wrong and missing
Agreed.
@@kentwanblackstock7879 yeah, I agree most of the people commenting here didn't read the original book
Hey people, in terms of art and animation, some parts are from our earlier videos made for Kings and Generals 2 years ago on GoT subject. Other parts are new and made for this video only. So there is a difference between styles, map design etc. The reason is this. Happy watching and see you on the next one. 🖐️
Yeah was just rewatching your first GoT video n noticed some differences coming to this cheers
No worries then. Cheers.
I cant escape you, guys.
Personally I don't mind. Because that's not why I'm here, when reading history or story like GoT sometimes I got lost in some point and it's very good thing some people willingly to summarize it in form of video. Thank you for the update and may all king and general channels grow even more
Yes I saw that and I love this one too
I never managed to read the novels by G.R.R. Martin, but I love the world of ice and fire, so for me it is really amazing having the whole history of house targaryen summarized in a documentation. Thanks a lot for the hard work!
We'll probably get another volume of the world of ice and fire before winds lol
Fire & Blood gives a lot of life and history to the lore
Listen to them on audio books it’s well worth it
@@jewsco I'm notthat big of a Fan of audio books. Love to ready books myself instead. With the books of Mr. Martin I just Had the issued that the first one was soooooooo boring in the beginning, like way to many names and nothing really interesting happening. At least for my taste. I have thus issues with other great authors too, so it's not the fault of the author, just not my kind of starting a story to get me attached to it.
Therefore I am really glad for all the summaries and videos about the books and the whole universe
@@avi.chan23 it is much easier to start now that you know most of the characters because you are right there are a lot thrown out at the beginning
Quite symbolic that the first battle of the Dance was an aerial duel between two dragons ridden by Targaryen princes, and the final battle of the Dance was a conventional battle between armies of men without a single Targaryen present on either side, just bannermen fighting in their name. A perfect symbolization of how the age of dragons had come to an end and where the true power now lay in Westeros.
Fact check: Rhaenyra was pregnant with her *sixth* child when she received the news of Aegon's usurpation. By this time she already had five sons: Jacaerys, Lucerys, Joffrey, Aegon, and Viserys; the child she miscarried was her daughter Visenya.
Edit: Also, Queen Helaena was Queen Dowager Alicent's daughter, not her daughter-in-law.
Technically, Queen Helaena was Alicent's daughter in law as well, since she is married to Alicent's son. The Targaryen family tree is all over the place, in that family your dad could also be your uncle.
@@thegreatpage5912 oh ur right lol
The redkeep wasnt built in aegons reign but many years after in megors cruel reign
@@buckledben it was started by Aegon I believe
She was her daughter also daughter in law lmao
After just finishing the Dance of the Dragons section of Fire and Blood, I get the notification for this video, what timing!
I can listen to these stories over and over again. There is so much good material for movies and tv shows, it is amazing.
Seems strange to completely skip over the reign of Maegor the Cruel.
I think it was because they originally did a video on The Conquest and First Blackfyre Rebellion and they did the whole bit about The Dance because of the new series.
I agree we are missing a lot here. But hey….future content.
That’s exactly my thought when it just jumped to Jahearys
Same, I feel like they should have just made a separate video for Dance of the Dragons instead of trying to make one megavideo that misses out a lot of cool history, like Maegor the Cruel, Aegor Bittersteel's further rebellions, War of the Ninepenny Kings, etc.
Also I thought it was odd to omit the Hour of the Wolf from the section on Dance of the Dragons.
To skip it without even mentioning that his rule happened is just being factually incorrect and really bothered me lol
Rhaenys and Viserys weren't brother and sister. They were cousins. Rhaenys was the first born child of King Jaeherys' third born son Aemon and Viserys was the first born of Jaeherys' 4th born son Baelon whom both were heir apparent before dying before Jaeherys. Rhaenys' line technically had the stronger claim being the first born of an elder son, but since she was female, the great counsel of 101 AC chose Viserys over Rhaenys and her son Leanor due to Viserys being the closest living male relative. They were the only 3 potential claimants to be seriously considered out of roughly a dozen potential heirs. That story is a very important precursor to the Dance of the Dragons.
He also got something else wrong too Aemond Targaryen lost his eye in a fight with his nephew Lucerys Velaryon
Aemond had a better claim than Baelor, Baelor's sons have a better claim than Aemond's daughter. Agnatic Primogeniture.
I caught that error also
Yes caught this as well.
Also, Haelena wasn't "only" Alicent's daughter in law, but also just her daughter, since Aegon II and Healena were siblings. Great video still, however.
This is the best docummentary channel hands down. What a treat this is! Thanks
I heard "...arming peasants with sentient napalm machines..." and literally burst out laughing.
Same here.
Its funny cause its true.
"Sentient Napalm Machines" definitely sounds like a band name. But what TYPE of band? Of course grindcore or thrash metal immediately come to mind, but it might be even better for a quirky, smart-alecky band of very white men with glasses, like a cross between Might Be Giants and the Barenaked Ladies.
I also like the idea of it being an early 80s hardcore punk band, but if it was, they'd shorten it to "SNM" and play on bills with JFA, DI, and DOA.
Actually come to think of it, it might be a good name for a very early 90s industrial band inspired by KMFDM and Front 242--but they'd have a more sexual vibe akin to Psychic TV and the Thrill Kill Kult. They would often shorten their name to "S n M" (get it?!?) and have album art of, like, women in black leather spanking men in bondage gear. And they'd have at least one song with their own name in the lyrics, something like "Sentient Napalm Machines/Running the American Dream..."
@@d.m.collins1501 The choice is obvious. CCR cover band.
Byzantine empire be like
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I remember first reading the book years ago and falling in love with all the intrigue and war. Watching the same story in one of your top-notch videos is a true blessing, I've been waiting for this one. Brilliant job to everyone who worked on this!👏
WhTs the name of the book ?
@@YungFlirtZ10 The main book series is called "A Song of Ice and Fire".
This video adapts the history of the House Targaryen from 2 books. "Fire & Blood" and Targaryen Kings Chapters from "The World of Ice and Fire",
I hope HBO makes a series on the destruction of Valeria and Aegon’s conquest.
It would just be a strange cultural impact to glorify sibling-marriage. It was one thing showing gross Jamie/Cersei, another showing the glorious trio of Aegon and his two sister-wives.
They probably won’t disclose Valyria THAT much considering the mystery behind it makes the world sm more interesting
@Nicolas Martinez dont act like tolkein world dosent have alot of crucial
And besides
Asoiaf isnt design like the legendarium
@@joetheperformer Well, they are making tv show apparently about Aegon's conquest. Incest was a Valyrian tradition. Makes sense since the magic that allows them to have monopoly over dragons was in the blood of 40 High Noble dragonlord families of Valyria. The Targaryens being the last remaining one, they had to interbreed to keep it pure so they could still keep riding dragons. It was like that back in Valyria (so the genes do not expand out of the 40 families) and much more hardcored now when they are the only ones left. Over time, they seemed to have kept the tradition when the dragons went extinct... but you still saw more "fresh blood" coming into their lineage.
When Aegon's conquest takes place Valyrian traditions were more alive (like poligamy and incest). Incest has been practices a lot in history and this is based in history. Most of us have incest in our lineage since most have relatives from towns and small towns were most tend to be related over the centuries.
@@Alejojojo6 I always thought that incest in the macro level was a symptom of a society in decline? But I might be very very wrong about that…
It is an interesting subject though. I’m honestly against the idea of glorifying incest through popular media. Bc what we show on popular mass media has a huge subtle effect on the heart and minds of people.
That’s why I’m kind of okay with bringing more diversity in (without sacrificing the story, lore, and plot of the original work of art). But incest? Eesh. Idk about normalizing that kind of concept.
These longform videos are great. Keep 'em coming.
So in terms of military units, the Dragons are not as all powerful as I once thought.
In terms of dragons against armies, the dragons need to be supported from the ground by infantry, as while devastating they are vulnerable to ranged weaponry (crossbows and Scorpions notably). Myraxes shows this, as even during the Conquering a single dragon is defeatable. You can get away with just dragons though, if you have a decisive number of them. The Battle of the Gullet shows this, as well as the dragons weakness to ranged attack.
Dragon on Dragon combat however I would not advise, in any scenario really. The only example I can see of a straight victory is the battle between Aemond and Lucerys, and that only ended cleanly because Aemond outweighed Lucerys threefold (according to the book) and had years more experience riding. Every other example of combat between dragons ended in mutual defeat. Aemond himself would meet his end in what could be argued as the most even fight between dragons of the war, between himself and Daemon, but in the end the dragons were destroyed weakening both sides (as well as denying them able commanders). Aegon II too, would shatter both his legs in his fight to retake Dragonstone, and while he and Sunfyre can claim victory, again both rider and dragon were incapacitated as a result.
So how should dragons be used? Several ways, I think:
First, reconnaissance. Excellent flight range, fast as hell and if you choose not to engage the enemy can’t really touch you. Prince Daeron shows this, as the young man proved vital to the Hightower advance from the reach doing exactly this.
Second, fire support. Dragons should not be deployed dirslectly to the frontline, anywhere. They are too valuable, costly, and are often ridden by people of supreme importance to the army overall. As such, they should be kept at maximum range most of the time, and deployed at pivotal points of the engagement. To create breaches in a wall, to curtail a cavalry charge. To break a stubborn shield wall. While a Field of Fire style decimation sounds good, the risk in my estimation is too high.
Last, that I can think of anyway, deterrence. Frankly, the threat of dragons is more beneficial than actually using them. Since Harrenhall, every lord in the land knows what could happen if you piss off a dragonrider. Using them as a threat can bring rebellions to premature ends before they begin. King Jaraharys I (Spelling, I know…) famously flew to Oldtown with his dragon just to make a point, he also forgave his step-uncle Lord Baratheon very magnanimously, while they were both standing in front of his dragon eating. The Lord got the message.
Dragons do not win fights by themselves, and losing one is equivalent to losing a battle by itself. But used properly, you can conquer a continent with them!
[Thank you for reading, those who did! Also good job GRRM, for creating such a believable universe to discuss, and the lads at Wizards, for this ace video!]
yep same as tanks or carriers.
Very good analyis thanks.
Yup, only the show made them look like some unbeatable force and then easily to kill.... They are great but they can't help you control the land and you can kill them in battle and the rider has no protection. So it took Valyria like a thousand years to conquer the Giscari cities... What happened in Westeros was unusual but because the people didn't know how to fight the dragons.
@@Bayard1503 I don't know I feel Merexys was an extremely lucky shot through her eye was the only way to kill a fully grown adult dragon as shown through the sources the only thing that can hurt a healthy adult dragons are other adult dragons.
yeah like tanks while it is powerful it also has obvious weaknesses easy to exploit without infantry.
"When King Aenys died, he was succeeded not by his son but by his younger brother Maegor. Prince Maegor Targaryen worked as his brother's Hand but he was exiled after one too many disagreements, mainly about dealing with the Faith. Maegor flew back while riding old Balerion and claimed the Iron Throne. He swiftly crushed the Faith Militant presence in Kings Landing then flew to Oldtown and forced the High Septon to disband and outlaw the Faith Militant. To encourage citizen participation, he also put bounties on the heads and scalps of any holy man carrying arms. Many died and many more went back to their septs. He also killed two of his nephews."
"The brutality and debauchery of Maegor's six year reign was so well known that when his last surviving nephew Jaehaerys made his bid for the Iron Throne, Maegor was abandoned by most of his supporters. He was found dead, seated on the Iron Throne which he so zealously clung to. And history Maegor Targaryen is forever nicknamed The Cruel."
I'm surprised they skipped that. Maegor is an iconic king, for the wrong reasons yes, but he was King. He completed the Red Keep. Smashed the Faith Militant, had such characters as lovers and wives, and died a brutal death. I hope HBO cover his story.
I actually stopped watching because they skipped that without mentioning it at all. Made me feel like I couldn’t trust the info honestly
old Maegor got a bad rap. he did what needed to be done for the safety and security of the realm.
@@mikooster so because they accidentally skipped over one thing you assume that a lot of or all of the information is incorrect?
@@figjam9530 Exactly he put the realm in a since back in order.
amazing, you did a good job, a very good job. This is the most well-put-together and easy-to-understand Targaryen timeline of events on the internet.
damn, this youtube channel deserves more than a million subs, not only they give great visual representation of the books/lore, but it has great narration as well! Can't believe i just discovered this channel now!
It's a secondary channel of the Kings and Generals channel, they have +2M subs
Absolutely, massively, appreciate the time and effort put into this and other videos like it.
Some random shepherd thousands of years ago: Lmao bet you won't go up that mountain bro
😂
I watched this a while ago and tonight was wondering why the heck I couldn't find it on the Kings and generals channel. Didn't realize that there was another channel by the same creator, this is awesome!
I’ve come to appreciate this Channel much more than the K&G since we’re past most of the early Roman history. Thanks for the content!
What a fantastic breakdown for those of us who never read the book. Fantastic work!
The K&G channels always do an incredible job! And videos of this length and quality best examples of their work. Thank you again for the content you create!
I picture Valeria like a modern looking futuristic city with dragons flying about. Hope they bring it to life in HOTD.
At the time the show take place it been destroyed for almost 200 years give or take several decades
@@JoseSanchez-fk9dg It’s more than 200 years. I guess🤔
Valeria is long destroyed in HOTD
Why would it be modern? It makes more sense to imagine Ancient Rome at its height, except with very tall skyscrapers and dragons.
I like to think of it as like that elf city in the lord of the rings they all go to in the first movie like super rich and fantasy like and magical
I’ve been waiting for a K&G documentary on the Dance of the Dragons for years….
Now we need some about the Blackfyre Rebellions.
@@LexIconLS It’s already there
Too bad it’s half-assed.
WHAT THE HELL? Kings and Generals has a fantasy and fiction channel and it has TONS of videos? I had no idea! This is like an early Christmas present.
Welcome on board sir!
Wow! This gave me the feeling of watching a documentary. Well done! 👏👏👏
This was a heartfelt revisitation for me, and I can't wait for part two !!
This history is amazing. I study it as If it really happened. What a story.
Holy hell. An hour long documentary. Well done dude :3
Nah this video was mediocre at best. They completely skipped Maegor the Cruel!
My first time in this channel and i knew immediately it was related to Kings And Generals!!
Dude you're my major source of ancient knowledge, both on real and fantasy worlds! Thanks for that!
Normally I’d agree but they really did a bad job researching the info for this episode. They got so many details wrong ☹️
The best animation…the best commentary & the best channel for vids like this
After a hard working day, these videos come from heavens 🐲
Keep it strong fellas
wait you skipped Aenys, Maegor, Faith Militant uprising, the whole reign of Jaehaerys, Fourth Dornish War, Myrish Bloodbath, the war in the stepstones and skipped right to the dance. Thats a shame if you want to do all of the history of the Targs
It’s heresy.
It’s actually quite possible that the Targaryens fled from Valyria due to some political mishap at court and chose exile on dragonstone rather than death. The whole thing about Danys the dreamer foretelling the destruction of Valyria is likely a myth conjured up afterwards.
The Targaryens do have 'Dragon Dreams' the gift of prophecy as seen amongst many Targaryens (Daeron the Drunkard) and Blackfyres (Daemon II Blackfyre) whose visions do come true just not in the way they have interpreted. However I do think that idea that its a myth is an interesting one in this case.
Could have been both prophetic dreams and political mishap
Dream: _~If you stay, it’ll mean the destruction of your line~_
“Yeah, I’d rather not be a victim of political intrigue. Time to head out!”
_Valyria gets destroyed_
“…..yeah! Totally knew that cataclysm was coming!”
@@UGNAvalon To be fair, many dragon dreams are misinterpreted by the dreamers
The quality of this explanation is so good 👏🏻👏🏻
Excellent video kings and looking forward to the new House of Dragon series.
You should also read the book fire and blood
The insight into the history of the lesser houses like Baylish, Gregane and Bolton makes watching GOT again so satisfying.... Thanks for this
I can’t believe I am watching these videos and reading these books. What a NERD!!!! I have an overwhelming need to beat myself up and stuff me in a locker.
I can watch this over and over again
This was absolutely awesome. I can't tell you how much I appreciate you going through the history step by step like this. Keep up the amazing work and you have a new subscriber!
Kiitos!
Fantastic. Love the long format! Keep up the good work guys always a pleasure.
Awesome video and just in time for our return to Westeros!
THis was thorough and fantastic and I watched the entire video. Thank you
Best video on the history of the tragaryans by far, you guys never miss
Thank you! Great visual representation and pleasant voice, new subscriber.
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Great video. Looks like you took your time and it shows. I've watched thr3e times now. Bravo-s👏🏼sir
57:26 The Starks weren't at the Battle of Kingsroad. The war was over by the time the Starks made it that far South. They didn't make it to Kings Landings until after it was taken by the Tully/Blackwater host.
this whole video gave me my fix. THANK YOUUUUUUU!!! Perfectly executed.
Simply amazing video, I love longer formats even though they do not perform very well on youtube.
The Targaryens are like Kaiba from Yu-Gi-Oh always relying on dragons to win a match when all else fails
Blue eyes white dragon more like red eyes black Dragon anyday
The nukes!
Well done. Keep up the good work.
"Old Ghis ruled an empire when the Valyrians were still fucking sheep, and we are the sons of the harpy."
- Kraznys mo Naklo
Old Ghis: *gets destroyed and turned to ash
@@riccardocirielli Irony is a fickle bitch.
@@riccardocirielli Valyria: *gets destroyed and turned to ash
@@gangsteryengec873 Thousands of years later and not by the hand of the Ghiscari lmao
@@riccardocirielli As if that matters? Valyrian freehold was still wiped out for good, so was the Targeryan dynasty eventually. Irony comes in different forms.
As a long time ASOIAF fan. Let me say great video & presentation. Truly.
Sidenote I couldn't help but chuckle at 49:40 when you called the city Queen's landing. 😂 Knowing the reason being you had been saying queen a great many times at that point. Well done brother 🤘👍
A few mistakes ive noticed:
You Forgot Maegor Targaryen who reigned between Aenys and Jahaerys
And Viserys 2 is the brother of Aegon 3(the younger)
Succession passed as follows:
Aegon2 to Aegon 3 to Sons of Aegon3 (Daeron1 and Baelor1) to Aegon 3’s Brother(Viserys2) to Viserys2’s Son(Aegon4 the Unworthy)
I'm loving this history. It really helps with trying to follow what's happening. Thanks for your hard work.
Already higher quality than any GoT property released by HBO, amazing work as always guys ⚔️
The first four seasons of game of thrones would beg to differ but ok
@@alfieingrouille1528 if it met your standard then I wish you joy of it
@@ckaiborbor some people simply cannot be pleased
Great Job Guys and Gals on this Series Topic! Thank You!
This is one of the most amazing things I have seen put together by an "amateur"
Standing ovation on the production value of this video.
You made a mistake with Qarth and the Red wastes. There were numerous cities around Qarth and the Red waste wasn't a desert until it's lake and rivers ran dry after the Doom.
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That was the most ambitious crossover between a TV show and nordpass I've ever seen
Considering that plenty of medieval fantasy series have been covered on this channel, will Pirates of the Caribbean be covered on this channel as well?
There's not really a "war" going on in that series fron what I remember. There are some battles, but they're not really connected as part of one conflict. That being said, I'd still probably watch it.
They did cover the battles of the early Star Wars Rebellion (with sick 3D animations too!) so I don’t see why not.
I hope not. :)
pirates of the caribbean definitely doesn't have enough lore for a video like this lmao
Before clicking on this I knew it was gunna be a banger.
Good lord, every single Dance of Dragons battle ends with "so and so won a great victory, but died during the battle"
Yeah it's a little convenient to rid them of dragons that they perfectly match up over and over again
@@JohnGoetzGaming the question i have is how did adam with seamoske manage to beat ulf and hugh that sounds impossible
Probably one of the best got videos i've watched.
since the show is taking liberties, one change i would like is for Rhanyra to join in the dragon fights and use Syrax more. amazing video btw
Same here. I'd like them to affirm Daemon living after killing Aemond though, even if it means he's grievously wounded or disappears into self-imposed exile out of grief from losing his dragon.
@@dopeocalypsenow6826 that will be cool, also if they do the Nettles love story with him it will be amazing seeing them together after Daemon VS Aemond.
@@dopeocalypsenow6826not really, it fits so perfectly Daemon and Aemond dying together, it's destiny
Amazing way of presentation 🖤🖤🖤
Love this bloody channel thanks kings and generals
Thank you for this. I absolutely love being able to unplug and immerse myself in fantasy...
Very detailed. Thank you for the video, this couldn’t have been simple to put together.
Also, Daemon is such a beast!
Finally. This way is much clearer the order and how of the happenings. Thanks. Excellent video!
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This makes me excited for future seasons of HOD. They better do all the big battles justice.
Watching these videos gives me a whole nother perspective on characters and events. Can you make a video about Rob's final plan and how he planned to take Casterly rock?
That was a tv show addition he actually planned to retake the North from the iron born.
Brilliant Video
Thanks guys😭😭😭😭😭😁
You forgot Maegor there, after Aenys I.
But it is DoD so, it's okay. Nice video as always. 🥰
Gonna wait for warhammer 40k or Malazna hopefufully.
NGL I've watched this like eight times. Well done.
“Leading to the entire Lannister army being slaughtered.”
Me: yes, good…good
This was awesome. Thank you 🥰
Man, I love the editing here and how the video presents the strategy and the players involved in these battles.
Well done, WnW.
Amazing documentary! I had to pause at 34 minutes 38 seconds, so I didn’t spoil House of dragons season two for myself lol
Very well put together, great work!
This is K&G/W&W's own account lmao.
9:25 The Targeryans were not the only with dragonriders that survived the doom, but those others died in other ways.
Most of the dragonlords, the noble dragonriding families of the Valyrian Freehold, had been at Valyria when the Doom occurred; None of them survived. Some dragonriders had been in Tyrosh and Lys at the time of the Doom, but they were killed with their dragons in the upheaval that followed. Namely we have a the dragonrider Aurion, who had been at Qohor during the doom, led an army to Valyria to reestablish the Valyrian Freehold after the doom, but disappeared with his army and dragon. This made the Targaryens the only dragonriders to survive, as they had relocated from the Freehold to Dragonstone near the Seven Kingdoms twelve years before.
I mean... Arming peasants with giant flying Napalm machines would be a pretty good description of the Vietnamese war😂
Amazing video... Thoroughly explained, great animations and u have a soothing voice.
Definitely the best summary of dance of the dragons. Maps are the easiest to understand.
Having viewed this numerous times I really hope we get at least 75% of what's narrated here on HotD
We will probably get more - there is so much that left uncovered in the books.
@@WizardsandWarriors knock on wood. Let's hope that's true and HBO doesn't f it up
Just so well done. Thank you. Wow!
I’ve been hoping for this!