Jon Snow - What We Know So Far - Game of Thrones Lore DOCUMENTARY

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    🔥 Unravel the Epic Journey of Jon Snow Beyond the Wall! 🌨️
    👑 In this captivating exploration of Jon Snow's saga, witness the aftermath of the rebellion against the Mad King as Robert Baratheon claims the Iron Throne. 🏰 Discover the shocking revelation of Eddard Stark's bastard son, Jon, and follow his path from Winterfell to the icy expanses beyond the Wall.
    🐺 Raised among the Stark children, Jon faces challenges as a bastard, leading to his fateful decision to join the Night's Watch. 🗡️ His journey unfolds with friendships, betrayals, and the emergence of a greater threat. 🌬️
    🚀 Join us as Jon's destiny takes a dramatic turn during the great ranging beyond the Wall, encountering wildlings, giants, and the legendary Mance Rayder. ⚔️ Uncover the mysteries of the Night's Watch, the direwolf Ghost, and the valiant Longclaw sword.
    🌌 As Jon faces love, loss, and the impending Long Night, the video delves into the Battle of Castle Black, where Jon Snow, now a leader, confronts the relentless forces of Mance Rayder. 🏹
    🔥 Will Jon Snow's resilience and leadership save Castle Black from the impending doom? Don't miss the intense moments and surprising twists in this gripping tale of honor, loyalty, and sacrifice.
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  • @WizardsandWarriors
    @WizardsandWarriors  6 місяців тому +14

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  • @JKelseyuk
    @JKelseyuk 6 місяців тому +102

    Stannis appears to be in such a strong position here compared to his show counterpart. Hope we get an actual ending to the book series.

    • @pem-ou7pk
      @pem-ou7pk 6 місяців тому

      😊

    • @pem-ou7pk
      @pem-ou7pk 6 місяців тому

      😊😊😊

    • @steveklaasen7571
      @steveklaasen7571 5 місяців тому +4

      Stannis was "Strong". But he was seen as a minor Character. And time is money. They just didn't had the time for another strong Warlord...well and they lacked of understanding of Warfare. As the his end wasn't given in the books the show had to make something up...wanted to make something up. And here the show has multiple weak points.
      At least the show states the strength of Stannis multiple times. I know. Way too simple...listening to stupid words 😉

  • @AncestorEmpireGaming
    @AncestorEmpireGaming 6 місяців тому +27

    The two Dave’s did him dirty.

    • @SMAXZO
      @SMAXZO 3 місяці тому +4

      "I dun wan et!" "She is muh Queen!" "I dun wan et!"
      - Jon Snow in the last season

  • @AYVYN
    @AYVYN 6 місяців тому +29

    Original Jon Snow & Napoleon: 🗿
    Hollywood Jon Snow & Napoleon: MUH QUEEN

  • @SMAXZO
    @SMAXZO 6 місяців тому +15

    "Hey, Jon you bastard...I got you a brother!"
    *gives Jon Longclaw*
    "Meet your brother...may he serve you well"

    • @sampapageorgiou5165
      @sampapageorgiou5165 4 місяці тому

      is that from the books?

    • @SMAXZO
      @SMAXZO 4 місяці тому +2

      @@sampapageorgiou5165 Nah..I made it up because Longclaw is a bastard sword and Jon is a bastard...that's the joke.

    • @sampapageorgiou5165
      @sampapageorgiou5165 4 місяці тому +1

      @@SMAXZO ow hahahahahhahaah yeah I got it now xP underated

  • @multimediafan6777
    @multimediafan6777 6 місяців тому +16

    These videos are some of the best ASOIAF/Game of Thrones content out there...

    • @yoishikakatshihe6402
      @yoishikakatshihe6402 2 місяці тому

      I like those of Alt shift X best personnally like this one ( on the same topic )
      ua-cam.com/video/qSy2uaJ7ecU/v-deo.htmlsi=STA003-ZCxhEm2ND

  • @steelydan146
    @steelydan146 6 місяців тому +29

    There's so many sub-plots on the books left out in the HBO series that had they dramatized all the sub-plots there would have been enough material to last many years until the final book came out.

    • @justinlast2lastharder749
      @justinlast2lastharder749 5 місяців тому +2

      The problem is that so much of it was pointless or didn't fit with the less magic filled show. Lady Stoneheart is 1 Zombie Character too many and her resurrection breaks the rules from other resurrections. Qaithe was just a wild goose chase, but was in the books too. That one dude Young Griff or whatever is One Too Many "Secret Heir" and would reduce the effect of Jon Snow being a Targaryen. There is a reason a lot of the side stuff and filler wasn't on screen...

    • @BIastwave.
      @BIastwave. 5 місяців тому +5

      @@justinlast2lastharder749Lmao you say it would “reduce the effect of Jon being a Targaryen” but that plot had literally ZERO effect on the show 😭😭

    • @frankrizzo7746
      @frankrizzo7746 5 місяців тому +1

      @@BIastwave. LOLOLOLOL

    • @user-bk6uu5hu6o
      @user-bk6uu5hu6o 5 місяців тому

      True but it’s hard to give ppl their favorites and bring in new characters all the time the characters are what hold the show like if Jon snow had died a lot of viewers would lose interest

    • @kungalexander829
      @kungalexander829 8 днів тому

      I don't know about you but some of these subplots are unnecessary and making the narrative seemed rather unfocused
      Some of it deserved to get cut or streamlined since it wont either work on screen or have enough time and budget to have it in 10 40 mins episodes
      I still don't see the point of disguised mance rayder being a cia agent for melisandre, ot could have been some other random bacground character. Him dying seemed more fitting
      No wonder why the last 2 books are not out yet, the story got simply too big, the author himself doesn't know how to address all of them all anymore

  • @krimzonstriker7534
    @krimzonstriker7534 6 місяців тому +14

    Welp, I hope we get an update to this series one day if/when Winds finally comes out 😥Although I'll hold out hope for the Golden Company landing getting a video at least 😅

  • @stlegion-px1wo
    @stlegion-px1wo 6 місяців тому +8

    3:53 minor corrections ghost in the books isn’t the runt of the litter it is however the only one with its eyes open

    • @FernandoAlvarez-hz6hb
      @FernandoAlvarez-hz6hb 8 днів тому

      Which may be a clue that BloodRaven manipulated him into making noise (because he pretty much never does) and Jon finding out. BloodRaven may have plans for him. I recommend the video "The Real Jon Snow".

  • @richardthomas9497
    @richardthomas9497 6 місяців тому +39

    Here we have come to where the books have left off Jon Snow and Stannis. With Jon's stabbing and the advent of the Battle of Ice, leaving an uncertain future of which way the Winds will blow.
    Though there are many other events happening in Westeros and beyond, that could be covered and interesting to see. From the Purple Wedding, to intrigue in the Iron Islands, Dorne and the Vale. Including a mysterious Young Griff.

    • @mattluke5546
      @mattluke5546 6 місяців тому

      Thats cause K&G is *FAKE NEWS CULT LEFT*.

  • @AdamNoizer
    @AdamNoizer 6 місяців тому +7

    Saw the thumbnail and thought it was Ramsay Bolton for a second.

  • @black_thesis444
    @black_thesis444 6 місяців тому +33

    The Wildlings couldn't have fallen thousands of feet to their death off the wall as the wall itself is 700 feet tall.

    • @mattluke5546
      @mattluke5546 6 місяців тому

      thats cause this YT channnel LIES CONSTANTLY.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 6 місяців тому +8

    MY all time favorite character! Thanks!😊😊😊😊🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @MichaelMedici61W2
    @MichaelMedici61W2 6 місяців тому +29

    Love the work you guys do! Please keep it up. Thank you for all you do

    • @mattluke5546
      @mattluke5546 6 місяців тому

      just a heads up, K&G vids ARE NOT HISTORICALLY ACCURATE!! I kno, it sux, i believed they were legit for over a year, FACT CHECK THEM, youll see theyre LIARS 100!!!!!

  • @jamesstrobel5938
    @jamesstrobel5938 2 місяці тому +1

    Great episode!!

  • @niall_sanderson
    @niall_sanderson 6 місяців тому +15

    You left out the part where he traced the source of a cholera epidemic by drawing a map of where people were dying and where they were getting their water

  • @JohnnyElRed
    @JohnnyElRed 6 місяців тому +28

    So, that's it? That's all the lore of the released "A Song of Ice and Fire" and other related books so far? Man, that was one hell of a long ride.
    It's a shame things are left hanging with Jon like this, though. But I wonder what universe will you guys cover next.

    • @prieterico
      @prieterico 6 місяців тому +6

      This isn't all the lore of A Song of Ice and Fire. This is just the plotline which follows Jon Snow's life and his point of view. There's still a lot of story that the videos of the channel can't go through because it's just way too much. The channel has only covered completely the Targaryens dinasty and the beginning of the War of the Five Kings. There's still a lot more about it left unsaid

  • @HowlingWolfDen
    @HowlingWolfDen 6 місяців тому +6

    Still waiting to see what happens to Jon

  • @kingtarly499
    @kingtarly499 6 місяців тому +6

    Can you do Dany next! ❤

  • @gui3777
    @gui3777 6 місяців тому

    Great!

  • @eugenebraxton2987
    @eugenebraxton2987 6 місяців тому +4

    Me and my girl like this is real history lol, great work as always!!!

  • @simbol5638
    @simbol5638 6 місяців тому

    I almost missed this

  • @Dogboon-
    @Dogboon- 6 місяців тому +3

    "Plunged thousands of feet to their deaths" - ok.

  • @connor1734
    @connor1734 6 місяців тому +3

    So about that Mongol video?

  • @yaboyed5779
    @yaboyed5779 5 місяців тому

    57:25 oh sweet summer child.

  • @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd
    @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd 6 місяців тому +3

    how would guys fare if you do the narnia books?

  • @ZZCAR1
    @ZZCAR1 4 місяці тому

    In the show the karstraks fought with the boltens. However in the book they fight with stanis.
    Like that's a big over sight.

  • @arvidgreat
    @arvidgreat 6 місяців тому +5

    Now please cover avatar the last airbender.

  • @jeffcordova9633
    @jeffcordova9633 6 місяців тому +9

    Aegon Targaryen VI of his name
    King of the Andals, The Rhoynar & The first men, lord of the Seven Kingdoms & protector of the realm.
    The rightful Heir to the Iron Throne.. Son of Rhaegar & Lyana- the Prince who was promised..

    • @Rhaenyssupporter
      @Rhaenyssupporter 6 місяців тому +2

      No king ever legitimatized him, he refused Stannis offer to make him a Stark so hes a bastard and bastards cannot inherit unless legitimized

    • @andrxsinho5626
      @andrxsinho5626 6 місяців тому +4

      his name is not even aegon. that's d&d bullshit

    • @prieterico
      @prieterico 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@andrxsinho5626Aemon would be a way better name for Jon

    • @herbthompson8937
      @herbthompson8937 6 місяців тому +2

      Why would Rhaegar name two of his sons Aegon???????

    • @Rhaenyssupporter
      @Rhaenyssupporter 6 місяців тому +1

      @@prieterico Aegon, Rhaenys... it's obvious what his actual name is

  • @dennisyoungblood942
    @dennisyoungblood942 5 місяців тому +1

    7:05 Jon didn't have the bear head replaced with a direwolf's head, the bear's burned off in the fire and Lord Commander Mormont had the direwolf head put on for Jon. C'mon man!!!

    • @magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479
      @magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 5 місяців тому +1

      Its a brief summary, and from what you describe, he DID infact replace it. Afterall he could very well had a bear ornament again.
      Same as how Haghia Sophia replace the Megale Ekklesia after it burned down.

    • @dennisyoungblood942
      @dennisyoungblood942 5 місяців тому +1

      @@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 no, Jeor Mormont says he had the bear head replaced with a direwolf head. So, I have no clue what you're talking about

  • @billyguyjoe1858
    @billyguyjoe1858 4 місяці тому

    17:00 there were no human corpses at the fist. There's nothing but pink snow and mangled dogs and horses.

  • @lupoligiuseppe5208
    @lupoligiuseppe5208 5 місяців тому +1

    I would like to know what happened after the last game of thrones episode ?

  • @lucasward7688
    @lucasward7688 5 місяців тому +1

    I don't think the winds of winter will ever be released. Lol

  • @gaberobison680
    @gaberobison680 3 місяці тому

    I find the idea that a defeated and unliked noble could somehow have the money to ship 1500 warhorses and men hundreds of miles (not too mention the supply train and grain stores). That is quite literally a task that requires the wealth of an entire banking system or like a decade of planning (not to mention that heavy cavalry sucks. Warhorses would panic at the smell of mammoths, knights would running into trees and tripping on roots and lances suck as weapons as they can only be used once. Stan is should have died without killing 500 Wildlings if any sort of military realism is followed

  • @javiersaugar376
    @javiersaugar376 6 місяців тому +5

    *You know nothing Wizards and Warriors*- Ygritte maybe

  • @BIastwave.
    @BIastwave. 5 місяців тому +2

    It’s Ser Alliser, not Ser Alister. Other than that this is another excellent video. Both of your channels are among the best on UA-cam

  • @not_averge
    @not_averge 5 місяців тому

    25:37 his face...

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 6 місяців тому

    Wow 😳

  • @zlato_hlavek
    @zlato_hlavek 3 місяці тому

    41:47 its Anders from Dragon age?

  • @gaberobison680
    @gaberobison680 3 місяці тому

    Fire arrows were never a serious weapon. Try getting an arrow to not out itself out ir even have enough thermal energy to do much as burn a hand that touches it

  • @tracyannpardue1530
    @tracyannpardue1530 2 місяці тому +1

    It is sad to see some people just shitting all over a person's lifetime of work. What ever his reason he has choice. If he is just not interested in it be happy for him. Look what amazing world and stories he has created. Id rather have an ending he is inspired to write than a lack luster story because he felt so much pressure to please people.

  • @tracyannpardue1530
    @tracyannpardue1530 2 місяці тому

    What do y'all think? What if GRRM isn't destined to write the end ? What if another artist is destined to?

  • @RaidRoyce
    @RaidRoyce 6 місяців тому

    siege of terra next?

  • @solarmaru49
    @solarmaru49 5 місяців тому +1

    Ok but why does the thumbnail look like Harry Maguire if the the hair covered his giant forehead

  • @Free_Palestine_419
    @Free_Palestine_419 5 місяців тому +2

    52:24 STANNIS THE MANNIS! THE ONE TRUE KING OF WESTEROS!!! AND THE KING OF THE NORTH!!!
    "It may be that we shall lose this battle," the king said grimly. "In Braavos you may hear that I am dead. It may even be true. You shall find my sellswords nonetheless." The knight hesitated. "Your Grace, if you are dead - " " - you will avenge my death, and seat my daughter on the Iron Throne. Or die in the attempt."
    "We all know what my brother would do. Robert would gallop up to the gates of Winterfell alone, break them with his Warhammer, and ride through the rubble to slay Roose Bolton with his left hand and the Bastard with his right. I am not Robert. But we will march, and we will free Winterfell … or die in the attempt."
    - Stannis Baratheon

  • @nateklein7084
    @nateklein7084 6 місяців тому +11

    And apparently... Jon Snow will one day grow up to be the Sheriff of Rottingham...

    • @MrGeoff-iv6re
      @MrGeoff-iv6re 6 місяців тому +3

      😂

    • @Matthew10950
      @Matthew10950 6 місяців тому

      KING ILLEGAL FOREST,
      TO PIG WILD KILL,
      AND IN IT A IS??

  • @liengumban4944
    @liengumban4944 5 місяців тому

    MAKE DAENERYS PLS!!

  • @Drevo103179
    @Drevo103179 6 місяців тому

    The night king has flat feet and abnormal gait around 15:20 in video

  • @MrGrmblhmpf
    @MrGrmblhmpf 2 місяці тому

    Mom i want the real Jon Snow video
    We got the real Jon Snow video at home
    The real Jon Snow video at home:

  • @theareaman7035
    @theareaman7035 6 місяців тому +3

    I really hope they don’t go through with a jon snow sequel show. Even though it’s green lit and in pre production. We already know how it goes when there is no source material. 👎🏻

    • @mariuss1590
      @mariuss1590 6 місяців тому +1

      I thought it was cancelled?

    • @turtleguyfan
      @turtleguyfan 6 місяців тому +1

      @@4F33D0Mthe show started going downhill as soon as season 5 hit. maybe even Season 4.

    • @jeambeam3173
      @jeambeam3173 6 місяців тому

      ​@@mariuss1590you cant cancle something that was never started. Dont believe these people they listen to fake pictures made in photo shop

  • @juliusfishman7222
    @juliusfishman7222 6 місяців тому

    Can't remember then ending jon in the books

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 6 місяців тому

    Well now I know something.

  • @philiproe1661
    @philiproe1661 6 місяців тому +237

    Too bad Martin will never finish the book series. Then again, he has no incentive to do so.

    • @matro2
      @matro2 6 місяців тому +72

      If he wants a lasting legacy, he does. If GRRM never finishes it and GRRM will always known as the writer who abandoned his own creation.
      Ultimately, I'm holding out hope he's completed the books already and will only have them released posthumously.

    • @Lauren_12695
      @Lauren_12695 6 місяців тому +31

      Yes we’re never seeing the end of this story. I’ve accepted it tbh.

    • @philiproe1661
      @philiproe1661 6 місяців тому +25

      @@matro2
      Lasting legacies are just not a concern for most people these days. Only short term profit. Martin has already made his gazillions from the show series. Finishing the books wouldn't do much more for him short term.

    • @MyHandelsMessiah
      @MyHandelsMessiah 6 місяців тому +4

      @@matro2he wants money 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

    • @mokarokas-1727
      @mokarokas-1727 6 місяців тому +28

      Look at all these people thinking they're in Martin's head, when in reality he lives rent-free in theirs.

  • @gaberobison680
    @gaberobison680 3 місяці тому

    How exactly does a dead military order have siege engineers and countless spare barrels of oil, an exceedingly rare substance to acquire in quantity and quality for military service?

  • @Woogsie
    @Woogsie 6 місяців тому +1

    Martin is good, Sanderson is great.

  • @calebsmith8969
    @calebsmith8969 6 місяців тому +6

    Stannis the one true king!!!

  • @aghaabbas6845
    @aghaabbas6845 5 місяців тому

    so the books story of jon ends here????

  • @seannakamura7790
    @seannakamura7790 6 місяців тому +3

    What we know is: He knows nothing...

  • @johny153
    @johny153 6 місяців тому +1

    Damn I forgot Jon broke his oath in the end and wanted to abandon the Watch.
    Ffs he deserved to be stabbed.

  • @theanimeboy9953
    @theanimeboy9953 6 місяців тому

    thats robert pattinson in the thumbnail lmao

  • @herbthompson8937
    @herbthompson8937 6 місяців тому

    Thats a weird looking long face on that picture of Jon Snow on the thumbnail

  • @supman7020
    @supman7020 5 місяців тому

    Grows old. Farts. Dies. THE END😅

  • @jamalanderson3891
    @jamalanderson3891 2 місяці тому

    He doesn’t want to finish the book and basically make it look anything like the show imo

  • @artemo.shapovaloff5577
    @artemo.shapovaloff5577 6 місяців тому

  • @18pablo88
    @18pablo88 6 місяців тому +4

    Ned should have confidential told cat and possibly lewin before he left for Kingslanding.
    When she demands, he can't stay with ned away.

    • @jordanford9320
      @jordanford9320 6 місяців тому +5

      He knows cat can't keep a secret and you can't trust a maester he's sworn to the castle not who holds it

    • @herbthompson8937
      @herbthompson8937 6 місяців тому +2

      That would have been one of the dumbest things Ned ever did if he told Catelyn

    • @bernieone1
      @bernieone1 6 місяців тому +1

      Never a possibility!

  • @fredartusa7572
    @fredartusa7572 3 місяці тому

    I think hes gotten himself into a bind with to many loose ends and to many bad story lines he thought was going one way only for us to have theorized all the path ways and proablly shat on the answers he had in his head, making him proablly go back an rewrite to go with fan expectation. I know he says he doesn't read fan stuff but that's just B's. I mean Christ the amount of stuff that still needs to happen cant fit in two books even though his are massive

  • @alexzhu4710
    @alexzhu4710 5 місяців тому

    obviously he is Henry VII

  • @ac14cmpunk25
    @ac14cmpunk25 6 місяців тому +3

    i would love a Snow Sequel Series with Bran as the villian and Jon ending up on the Iron Throne
    That Show has the potential to fix some of the shows mistakes

  • @Gunnar001
    @Gunnar001 6 місяців тому +1

    _MUH QUEEN_

  • @reginaldshort8486
    @reginaldshort8486 10 днів тому

    If there is a Jon snow sequel I hope they show him as a proper leader building a community and not just being ur typical emo guy.

  • @shyhand1
    @shyhand1 5 місяців тому +1

    The TV series game of thrones ruined the novels... I find HBO's version almost hideous compared to knowing exactly what the writer had in mind

  • @slinksjoch
    @slinksjoch 6 місяців тому

    Lovely story but the animation is kind of cursed

  • @peterh2828
    @peterh2828 6 місяців тому

    Stannis! Stannis! STANNIS!

  • @Crano_Brakebart
    @Crano_Brakebart 6 місяців тому +1

    Why does he look like nick mullen

  • @MyHandelsMessiah
    @MyHandelsMessiah 6 місяців тому +4

    Who illustrated his face on the video thumbnail? 🤮

  • @justaguy2365
    @justaguy2365 6 місяців тому +1

    Does anyone still care?

  • @yodaslovetoy
    @yodaslovetoy 6 місяців тому +1

    He knows nothing

  • @ianscott9596
    @ianscott9596 6 місяців тому +1

    Jon Snow looks an awful lot like Robert Pattinson

    • @MyHandelsMessiah
      @MyHandelsMessiah 6 місяців тому

      Yeah that illustration is terrible

    • @nateklein7084
      @nateklein7084 6 місяців тому +1

      Lol, I thought it made him look like young Sheriff of Rottingham from Robin Hood: Men in Tights.

  • @AB-fr2ei
    @AB-fr2ei 6 місяців тому +3

    For me R+L = J is fake
    We still dont know if its true or not but i think it will be fake

    • @samwize28
      @samwize28 6 місяців тому +2

      I’m very much on the fence.
      All the evidence is there for it, but I still can’t get my head around what the point of house Dayne and Dawnstar is if Jon is not a Dayne.

    • @AB-fr2ei
      @AB-fr2ei 6 місяців тому

      @@samwize28 it make much more sense if jon is a dayne

    • @turtleguyfan
      @turtleguyfan 6 місяців тому

      @@samwize28 If Jon is Rhaegar’s son he would be a distantly related dayne because of Maekar marrying Dyana Dayne. But why the Daynes all the way in Dorne would give their ancestral sword to a distant cousin all the way at the Wall would be beyond me.

    • @samwize28
      @samwize28 6 місяців тому

      @@turtleguyfan hmmm, yeh it would technically work but would feel clunky.
      I like both parentage scenarios.
      If he is a Targ then it’s cool because he’s heir to the throne and can do dragon stuff.
      If he’s a Dayne, then he’s nailed on Azor Ahai (sword of the MORNING, wielder of Dawn/LightBringer etc)
      I just can’t make my mind up which way GRRM will go with it in Winds. He’s left it open to go in either direction (or neither!)

  • @raphaelostrowski6336
    @raphaelostrowski6336 4 місяці тому

    John deserved to die in the books but in the show he didn’t. Book Jon snow is even dumber and emotional then the tv show one

    • @saldzbob9972
      @saldzbob9972 3 місяці тому

      Nah it's the show version that is dumbass