Canon EOS 700D or EOS M? Which one to buy? ⎮Magic Lantern Crop Mood

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  • @russo-filmmaking
    @russo-filmmaking  8 місяців тому +8

    Normally I use the EOS M for my videos, in this case because I needed to show both M and 700D I used the BMPCC 4K coupled with Meike lenses.

  • @shueibdahir
    @shueibdahir 8 місяців тому +3

    2:01 You can use the NiceyRig cage that was made for the 90D and sligthly modify it. Cut the safery pin and buy a dummy battery since the battery door does not align with the cage. Other than that it looks really nice on my 700D

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  8 місяців тому

      Yeah I know of that cage, but I almost don't use the 700D so I'm ok with the battery grip.

  • @Decoii
    @Decoii Рік тому +4

    I'm enjoying my EOS M. This is my entry into photography and film making. I built a rig and bought some used lenses, but I love the option of being able to shoot handheld. The vintage lenses i picked up are so fun to use as it brings a lot of character to the scenes.
    Thank you for your videos and tutorials. They are inspiring

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  Рік тому +3

      Thank you!! Vintage lenses are my go to. I love the Canon FD 50mm. I own the FD 28mm too, and I'm thinking to buy the FD 24mm, 35mm and 85mm, to complete a set of FD lens

    • @Decoii
      @Decoii 10 місяців тому +2

      @@russo-filmmaking A couple more questions: Are there any differences with write speeds or resolution options?

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  10 місяців тому +2

      @@Decoii there is no difference between the Canon EOSM and the Canon 700D regarding resolutions options and write speed.

  • @AngeloOrtiz-kg4ug
    @AngeloOrtiz-kg4ug 10 місяців тому +4

    Planning to buy eos m to replace my 700d.. but now there is no need to.. I will
    Just buy good fast memory card🙂 Thanks and Haribol🙏

  • @sarcasticfpv
    @sarcasticfpv 11 місяців тому +6

    Awwww man somehow I'd also like the 700D route because I dont want to rig this camera but EF/EF-S lenses are so much bigger -.- The VWF and the tiltable display are so epic for unrigged cameras

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  11 місяців тому +1

      I agree that tiltable display is a big pro. The only cont for me is that I can't mount a focal reducer. Another thing it's that I like to add a lot of weight to the camera for handheld shots to get stable images, and with the 700D it's a little more tricky to add that weight maintaining a decent look of the whole rig. And obviously for taking pictiures the 700D wins

    • @lucasferrer7005
      @lucasferrer7005 3 місяці тому +1

      @@russo-filmmaking Why for taking pictures does the 700D win?

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  3 місяці тому

      @@lucasferrer7005 I don’t understand. I can take pictures with both cameras and the quality is the same.

    • @bintanggiani
      @bintanggiani 2 місяці тому

      @@lucasferrer7005 viewfinder

  • @Altcine
    @Altcine Рік тому +5

    Great breakdown Sergio 👏🏾👏🏾

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  Рік тому +1

      Thank you Cole!! 🙏🏻

    • @CSoprano103
      @CSoprano103 Рік тому

      Thank you Sergio as well for the analysis and Colin too. You both have been invaluable to my filmmaking journey. You both do phenomenal work and provide easy to understand.

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  Рік тому +1

      @@CSoprano103 Thank you so much !!

  • @FrogMotionStudios
    @FrogMotionStudios Місяць тому +2

    Hi Sergio, does the touchscreen stil work while you are in the magic lantern menu or when in the live view? For examle when you want to select where you zoom in with 10x zoom. Or to move spotmetering spot? And if so, does it work on both cameras? But thanks for the video! It was super helpful to decide!

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  Місяць тому +2

      I’m using the latest crop mood modified by Danne. From the customize buttons in the magic lantern menu you can assign a function for the tap display like shutter expo or aperture or false color or iso expo. You can use the tap display functionalities in picture mode out of magic lantern. You can’t when magic lantern is operating.

    • @FrogMotionStudios
      @FrogMotionStudios Місяць тому +2

      ​@@russo-filmmakingthank you for your response, i shall wager that in with my decision!

  • @HowardCabalfin
    @HowardCabalfin 9 місяців тому +1

    Excellent comparison. Thanks for creating and sharing.

  • @forgepushnonino
    @forgepushnonino 8 місяців тому +2

    Does the autofocus work well on it? Doesn't shooting video in RAW turn itself off?

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  8 місяців тому +2

      Autofocus on these cameras for video is bad. You can turn it on but I wouldn't do it, if you don't want to risk ruining your footage. I watch to these digital cameras more like cine cameras because you learn to pull the focus manually like a pro

  • @ivandj707
    @ivandj707 7 місяців тому +1

    I used the eos M first, but since the 700D has a tilting screen I got that camera as well, because I thought it would be more suitable for shooting. As you said, the image quality is the same, and the 700D did not show me a greater advantage in use, while the eos M has a much larger selection of affordable manual lenses, and since it is much smaller, I always decide to take it with me, and I hardly ever use the 700D, but I'll keep it as a backup for now.

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  7 місяців тому

      Yeah, I use the 700D only if I'm travelling with a stabilized lens ( the sigma e17-50mm F2.8), so I don't have to carry a tripod or an external monitor with me

  • @fabienmaugan1948
    @fabienmaugan1948 6 місяців тому +1

    Hi Sergio, i was thinking about getting a battery grip for my 700D. Do you have a link or the brand of yours ? I saw the Neewer one from my side. Also do you use LP-E08 into it or regular batteries ? Thanks ;)

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  6 місяців тому

      Hey, in the description there are the links to my gear including the battery grip. I use it with 2 LP-E8 batteries, and you also use it with regular batteries

  • @lucasferrer7005
    @lucasferrer7005 3 місяці тому

    IT seems that the 700D does not have Image Stabilization for video. I wonder if the 700D with Magic Lantern can Provide Autofocus during record? the 700D on Magic lantern has lower ISO than the 100 of the Eos m? I am considering buying a second camera and the Screen of the 700D seems an attractive point for me. As always thank you Sergio for your videos, I really rely on your videos to make my Eos M work!

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  3 місяці тому +1

      the 700D a part the split screen and some ergonomic button on the body, is identical to the EOS M as I explain in the video: same quality, some problems. Autofocus is bad like the EOS M, and no ISO lower than 100. The difference I noticed is that when the 700D heat it stop record while the EOS M don’t.

  • @pierrecastillothelifeofpierre
    @pierrecastillothelifeofpierre Місяць тому

    Sir, how did you buy or choose your Eos m? I’m praying and planning to have one. Thanks for the tips! God bless

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  Місяць тому +1

      Normally I bought my used cameras or lens through eBay, you can return the gear if there is some problem getting a refund. You can also buy used gear on MBP or in your local market.

    • @pierrecastillothelifeofpierre
      @pierrecastillothelifeofpierre Місяць тому

      @@russo-filmmaking thank you so much sir! I’m saving up right now and I’m continuing to grow my channel. More power to you and God bless!

  • @FractalWorkshop
    @FractalWorkshop 8 місяців тому +1

    Isn't the 5dMarkiii the top Magic Lantern camera? Or did crop mood change that?

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  8 місяців тому +3

      Crop Mood works only with M, 700D, 650D, 100D, and it doesn't work with 5d. The 5d as a better sensor, it's full frame. Has a better image quality but if you want to shoot in High resolutions modes you can get a real time preview, while you can with crop mood.

    • @JohnFisk-OHS-78
      @JohnFisk-OHS-78 7 місяців тому

      @@russo-filmmaking Thanks! That's really helpful. I've got the EOS M and 5D Mark II bodies (with a bunch of others...) as well as the BMPCC 4K. I love the BMPCC, but there's something truly filmic about the videos I've been shooting with ML on the M and 5D Mark II. I can't quite emulate it on the BMPCC, although I'm a complete noob when it comes to color correction and grading. The videos from ML look a lot like my dad's old Kodachromes - really rich, saturated colors, warm, slightly muted and compressed color palette. Really gorgeous.
      Zeek's videos on his channel show the rich, gorgeous colors that ML in RAW mode is capable of.
      Again, many thanks!
      cheers!
      J

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  7 місяців тому +1

      @@JohnFisk-OHS-78 yeah with ML you get a different image feeling very closed to real film

  • @angelmartinez7301
    @angelmartinez7301 Місяць тому

    Hola, muy buen vídeo porque precisamente me encuentro en esa disyuntiva. Cuantos minutos puedes grabar? Hay límite? Depende de qué formato use? Gracias.

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  Місяць тому +1

      Dependiendo del modo, de la resolución y de la profundidad de color que se usa (como explico en el video), puedes grabar sin interrupciones hasta que se llene tu tarjeta. No lo aconsejo porque los files in RAW son inmensos. Y un solo file de 100-200 GB o mas no es fácil de gestionar en post. Ademas la temperatura ambiental influye sobre las prestaciones. Con temperaturas ambientales de mas de 24-25 grados centígrados, la temperatura de la camera se eleva bastante después de varios minutos de filmación continua y no es bueno.

    • @angelmartinez7301
      @angelmartinez7301 Місяць тому

      Muchas gracias. Solo una pregunta más… en el tema de la temperatura es mejor la m100 o la 7D? Tengo una Lumix S5 y la quería como Segunda unidad para documental…

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  Місяць тому +1

      @@angelmartinez7301 yo tengo la EOS M, la 700D y la 5DIII. De estas tres cámaras la que calienta más es la 700D. Son las 3 mejores cámaras para usarse con Magic Lantern. Desconozco la 7D y la 100D

    • @angelmartinez7301
      @angelmartinez7301 Місяць тому

      @@russo-filmmaking gracias mil ♥️

  • @pierrecastillothelifeofpierre
    @pierrecastillothelifeofpierre Рік тому +1

    Thank you for sharing this sir. God bless!

  • @Defh4n
    @Defh4n Місяць тому

    Which one better for cinematography?

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  Місяць тому

      @@Defh4n Both have the exact same quality as I explained in the video. Your choose depends on if you want a EF or EF-M mount, or if you need or not a split screen. For my way to work I preffer the EOS M

  • @beatprocess
    @beatprocess 8 місяців тому +1

    thank you sir

  • @moosecanoes
    @moosecanoes 5 місяців тому

    this is what i wanted!

  • @LaMakinaFotonika
    @LaMakinaFotonika 5 місяців тому

    Nice video! 🤗 How long can these cameras record raw video? I suppose they overheat

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  5 місяців тому +2

      well I used the EOS M for almost all my UA-cam videos, short movies, music videos and never had problems with raw record time. It depends on how you use it and you set it. If you learn how to shoot with magic lantern you won’t have any problem.

    • @LaMakinaFotonika
      @LaMakinaFotonika 5 місяців тому

      @@russo-filmmaking thank you for your response 🤗Sure, here it is in English:
      Do you mean that with Magic Lantern I can record almost unlimitedly? Can I record for an hour, for example, without stopping? In raw 4k for example?

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  5 місяців тому +1

      @LaMakinaFotonika it depends from the settings you use, if you for example use the 3x3 mode you can record one hour if your sd card has enough space because the raw files are very large. I really never recorded 1 hour without stopping the camera (for the kind of work I do) but I did continuosly shots of more than 15 minutes, recording some event in 4.2k anamorphic mode in 12bit without any issue. With magic lantern there is no real 4K, you can shoot 4.2K, 4.6k, 4.8K up to 5.2K in anamorphic mode. In my channel there is a video on crop mood where I explain the main resolutions in which you can shoot and what of them is more stable .

    • @LaMakinaFotonika
      @LaMakinaFotonika 5 місяців тому

      @@russo-filmmaking thank you so much 🤗

  • @MrBilloven
    @MrBilloven 6 місяців тому

    Are there any differences on recording capability? I know that 700d can record up to 40mb/s , while eos m can double or more that number. Is that right?

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  6 місяців тому

      I don't think so. Depending on resolution and preset I normally get between 75-82mb/s with the 700D. The only thing I noticed with the 700D is that (at least mine) easily in a warm environment (more than 27 degree celsius) reaches more than 54 degree celsius very fast, and this causes problems when recording.

  • @angelmartinez7301
    @angelmartinez7301 Місяць тому

    Estoy a punto de comprar una M100… es realmente importante si es de 18 o 24 megapixeles el sensor? Pierde mucha resolución?

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  Місяць тому

      Magic lantern doesn’t support the EOS M100. The best cameras for magic lantern crop mood are EOS M, EOS 700D, EOS650D (similar to 700D) and EOS M2 (with same limitations)

    • @angelmartinez7301
      @angelmartinez7301 Місяць тому

      En serio? Yo pensaba que las M100 se llamaban así a las M en europa que era la misma cámara. Menos mal que me avisaste !!

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  Місяць тому

      @@angelmartinez7301 EOS M without any number after it.

    • @angelmartinez7301
      @angelmartinez7301 Місяць тому

      @@russo-filmmaking Tnks a lot

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  Місяць тому

      @@angelmartinez7301 you’re welcome

  • @brtutorials2354
    @brtutorials2354 11 місяців тому

    Great Tutorial Sir I Really Liked EOS M. Could You Please Help Me Find A Way to Buy It ?

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you!! I bought my EOS M and 700D on eBay. It's the easy way.

  • @lulux6023
    @lulux6023 11 місяців тому

    good morning, do you know why when I record the material later and want to download it to my laptop, I can't see these mvl files at all in the camera, everything is in the preview

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  11 місяців тому +1

      I didn't understand your question: if you are asking how do you can preview your file in camera than You can preview your files in your camera with the play button. There are 2 options you can choose after pushing the preview button: color and fast. Color gives you a choppy preview, about 16-18 Frame per second. So I suggest to use the fast option: quality is poor and image is B/W but you get almost 23 frame per second. For checking your shoots, your framing and composition in camera, it's enough ok.

    • @lulux6023
      @lulux6023 11 місяців тому

      I have two more problems, I will immediately write that the lens attached is a Canon 22mm stm with autofocus when I am in photo mode, when I enter the menu there are only 3 options with a camera sign, in all the videos I watched there were 4 (4 dots next to the camera) only when I enter the video mode then it shows up and I can't upload my profile picture.
      @@russo-filmmaking

    • @lulux6023
      @lulux6023 11 місяців тому

      and the second thing I noticed is that when I switch to video mode, I have the automatic exposure setting mode all the time and I don't know how to unlock this exposure change because the exposure time is always 1/33, when I press info and the "Q" symbol appears in the upper right corner, after pressing some options are enabled but literally for a second and nothing can be changed
      @@russo-filmmaking

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  10 місяців тому

      Keep out your Sd card before to turn on your camera. After that, turn on your camera in video mode. It will appear the caption "no card in camera". Press the info button and in the upper left corner select the camera icon. Then be sure to select the camera icon with the M. After that (very important) click again the info button several time until only the caption "no card in camera" appears in the screen .Turn off the camera and insert your SD card. Know your camera is set to manual mode. Another thing: in order to be able to change the shutter speed (which I suggest to set to 1/50), in the magic lantern menu under the movie tab select movie tweaks and set shutter lock off. Check my previous videos on the crop mood where I explain how to change the ISO the aperture and the shutter speed.

    • @lulux6023
      @lulux6023 10 місяців тому

      thank you so much
      @@russo-filmmaking

  • @dboysify
    @dboysify 11 місяців тому

    hmm...can you show how the files hold up on post-processing between them?

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  11 місяців тому

      sorry probably I don't understand the question: if you means as files the images of each camera, than there are no difference between them as I showed in the video at 2:41. If you means how the images of each camera look after color grading side by side the answer is: they look identical applying the same post- processing.

    • @dboysify
      @dboysify 11 місяців тому

      @@russo-filmmaking I mean when you edit them..post processing...recovering highlight or shadow...pushing the color...which one holds better...im quite interested with the 700d...

    • @dboysify
      @dboysify 11 місяців тому

      @@russo-filmmaking oh ok..i just press the read more and you already explain it...its quite surprising eos m can hold the candle with the 700d...thanks man...

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  11 місяців тому

      @@dboysify yes, at the end both cameras mount the same digit 5 sensor. Only change the lens mount

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  11 місяців тому +1

      In my channel there are some videos where I pushed the grade of the EOS M to the limits. Check the video on how to recreate a blade runner scene and its color grade tutorial or the other video on how to recreate a scene from The Girl with the Dragon tattoo

  • @UnstopFooL
    @UnstopFooL Місяць тому

    What about 650D? Can it sgot the same resolution as 700D and do the same as 700D overall!

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  Місяць тому

      @@UnstopFooL 650 has the same quality and performance of the 700d . There is no difference. Some 650D has a bug that display shutter value wrong but you just set shutter to 1/50 and it works. I suggest to go with the EOS M (It’s my choice for its dimensions and possibility to adapt a lot of lenes) or 750D

    • @UnstopFooL
      @UnstopFooL Місяць тому

      ​@@russo-filmmakingBig thanks for the answer! But what about the eos m can shoot only 22 frames in some mode? And can you please tell what the best quality modes in your opinion? I have headache with understanding all that crop modes and which is better,which have aliasing which dont have,i cant get it completely, personally i dont like when there's black bars on the top and the bottom of the screen,have 650D on my own btw,which resolution, aspects ration and crip mode is the best in ur opinion? Thank you for help once again!

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  Місяць тому +1

      In the canon EOSM the only mode in which you can film only at 22.25FPS is 1x3 4.5K with an aspect ratio of 16:9. I never use this mode. When I want to film 16:9 (for example for my UA-cam videos) I use 1x3 4.2K and honestly it has the same quality of 4.5K, no differences. For the rest you can film 23.98FPS in all modes and aspect ratio (only 4.8K, 2:1 is 23.3 fps, but it has stability problems, and it’s better don’t use it). Black bars on the top and on the bottom of the screen depends on the aspect ratio and I think that no one who loves cinema is bothered by the black bars. Black bars are common when filming movies and use very huge expensive anamorphic lenses. If you want to film 16:9 use 1x3 4.2K and stabilize your images using a lens with an optical stabilization if you are shooting handheld, or on a tripod or gimbal. This is because of rolling shutter problems. I never use 3x3 16:9 because it produces artifacts and aliasing.

    • @UnstopFooL
      @UnstopFooL Місяць тому

      @@russo-filmmaking thank you very much!

  • @katamworld
    @katamworld Місяць тому

    hey dude can you pls help me to get better setting video for shooting outdoors video vlogs ! i used 29fps but am confused to use NTSC or PAL !! i have 18-55mm lens

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  Місяць тому +1

      24fps for film cinematic like content. PAL or NTSC depends on the country you live even if when I travel to Europe which has 50hz utilities I stick with NTSC 60hz

    • @katamworld
      @katamworld Місяць тому

      @@russo-filmmaking thanks to clarify,

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  Місяць тому +1

      @@katamworld you’re welcome

  • @bornindian28
    @bornindian28 8 місяців тому

    What did u use to film yourself in this video ?

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  7 місяців тому +1

      Normally I use the EOS M to shoot myself in my videos. In this case I used the BMPCC 4k because I showcase the 700D and the EOSM

  • @fhfddjvheufid6213
    @fhfddjvheufid6213 Рік тому

    Eos M cheap/cheaper manual "china" efm lens, unproffesional casual look ;) + We're waiting for Mount compatible with Sony-EFM

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  Рік тому

      Cole Power is working on his E-mount to EFM mount adapter. I would be a game changer

    • @fhfddjvheufid6213
      @fhfddjvheufid6213 11 місяців тому +1

      @@russo-filmmaking Yes definitely. Sometimes I think about 1.2 +- f0.9 lenses, but only for a niche EFM it is a risky investment, if I change my hobby or photographic system, I would have expensive exhibits on my desk. :D

    • @ivandj707
      @ivandj707 7 місяців тому

      @@fhfddjvheufid6213 I adapted the ef-m mount for sony e lenses, so that I can use manual lenses for the sony e mount system, and if I want to, I can later sell them more easily than ef-m lenses. Currently I have only two EF-M lenses (Kit 15-45mm and Tatartisan 17mm 1.4), and a large number of manual lenses (Konica, Helios, Nikorr, Industar, Pentacon, Jupiter etc.) that I use with an adapter for the Sony e system, as well as manual Sony e lenses like 7artisan 35mm 0.95 and Walimex 12mm f2. Adapting the mount on the eos M has significantly increased its versatility in using the different lenses I own.

  • @tecnogadget2
    @tecnogadget2 11 місяців тому

    What version of ML are you using? Mine works like shit

    • @russo-filmmaking
      @russo-filmmaking  11 місяців тому +1

      I use Magic Lantern Crop Mood, the latest version. Very stable and reliable. In my channel there are 3 video talking about this build