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Jordan ...we have all ran out of talent at some poimt. The car is not a sports car, it weighs far to much and may go fast in a straight line but corners are not it's strong point.
@@srikrishnathatavarthi283 he said on inside ev podcast friday that nothing has happened and notified insurance and waiting for assesor. He also said updates will be on his personal channel kyle conner.
@@thoos192 If you don’t road trip a-lot and can charge at home it’s really not a big deal. I’ve only supercharger around 20 times over the 15k miles I’ve used. Most of it was on a road trip over 2000 miles.
I am incredibly impressed by your kind-hearted nature and your ability to laugh through all this craziness, Kyle. Jordan and the rest of your crew are blessed to have you as a friend.
Get real, things like these increase views dude, cars are his business its not like he has only one car like me, naturally I would freak if somebody scrapped it leaving me with no car and bunch of problems
This is what Car and Driver called inappropriate rotation at the point of disappearing talent. We should not have 1000 hp cars and 4-second pickup trucks being driven by people who are not trained and experienced in high-performance driving.
Glad Jordan is okay. I certainly can't cast any stones. In my 73 years I've pulled some real brilliant moves, and lucky to still be on the planet in relatively one piece. And Kyle I admire your level headed reaction to the situation! Kudos!
So he's proven he can't drive, spinning out a Miata and then tries it again in a 1000hp monster that isnt his in track mode on a public road? What a tool.
Man, if I had this happen to me, I’d be pissed and going nuts. Whenever I go thru something stressful in life, I’m gonna start asking myself “How would Kyle react?”
Kyle is like me, he gets pissed for small things. Like someone talking over him before he explained/completes his statement of hold the drive mode button to activate snow mode on Hyundai Ioniq 5. Some video from beginning of this year.
Kyle handled this like a man; acknowledged his risk in letting someone else drive his ultra-high performance car. Bad judgement call, but a learning experience. Hope he can get it repaired expeditiously to enjoy the car before the snow flys and nobody should be driving that car on Colorado sanded-for-ice roads.
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I had recently had a good friend of mine that just died from being under a vehicle without a JACK STAND. Please do not make this MISTAKE ever again!!! The worst can happen very quickly. I like to watch your videos. But safety first need to be a priority!!!!
Sorry for your loss and for the impolite reply that I decided to ignore to avoid a long-winded counterpoint. Your reminder is very helpful as we should always have jack stands when jacking a car, but I do want to point out that no one in this video is underneath the car or otherwise in any obvious danger if the jack were to fail. An arm does seem to go under the front to give a camera view of the front links, but even then a jack failure would cause the front end to rise, not fall. It's still good to remind people that jack stands are life-saving equipment, however. Jacks can fail or slip at any moment.
This is why I always put the spare tire, snow tire, whichever is at hand, when I have car on a jack, even a stable scissor jack. If it comes down, I'll live.
Being able to see footage from so many angles is such an asset for car accidents. It’ll happen soon for sure but every car should be required to have at least 2 cameras not including the back up cam
So, he spun out before with another car and he decided to do it again with a $100,000 plus car that's not his? Kyle, if you let him drive the upcoming all new Tesla Roadster you are a fool. Gr8 vid by the way. 🚙 🇺🇸
When you place it in Track Mode, you've essentially turned off all the control safety features. As Kyle said, "Track Mode is for the track". Not sure who was in more pain, Kyle or Jordan. Kyle either gets an Oscar, or is truly The Man! Those of us who have also done something stupid (in hindsight) can truly feel the pain. Good news, more future content! Please include how all the expenses are handled: insurance, business write-off, out of pocket(s), who's pocket etc.
Kyle sounds calm and forgiving, but I also hear a lot of sarcasm which is probably how he expresses his anger. He had a week of car issues and was relaying on this Plaid, I'm pretty sure he's disappointed and upset.. but he's trying to play it cool.
I'm glad Jordan is uninjured. No more Plaid driving for awhile. The heater core EXPLOSION in the Land Rover is REALLY terrifying, Alyssa and you could have been very badly burned 🔥 . One hellish week Kyle!
I get that people make mistakes and shit happens... I am usually very chill if a friend makes a mistake. But this was just purely stupid... why would you ever take your friends car out and try to drift it on public streets, It would be stupid enough on a empty parking lot, and be zero damage... Especially with 1000hp monster you're not used to, and with the yoke wheel that you're not used to. I have over 200 000km on my Model 3 Performance, I have a lot of experience on sliding and track mode. I would've never have tried to drift that corner without winter conditions. Winter is much safer because everything is so much slower and doesn't need so much momentum to get sliding. Hopefully this guy gets more respect for others car after this, this was just extremely stupid.
If you have never done anything stupid driving a car in your 20's then good for you. Try not to judge others as it's Kyle's car and Jordan and the crew work and play hard and whilst gutted,the honesty and friendship they have is worth more than your judgemnet.
@@AG-ob3fx I absolutely don't think bad of Kyle or his crew... but it was a really stupid mistake. No sugar-coating that. Hopefully he will learn his lesson and beware. I have crashed a few times, one or two was dumb and inexperienced... but this one was really next level stupid. As with every mistake, hopefully, he learns a thing or two and will be very careful with other cars he will drive. I never claimed they shouldn't be friends, or get fired... or anything. Just acknowledging the really stupid mistake. I think the guy who crashed probably agrees with me that it was really stupid 😆
Look at video of accident again through front camera. He came in quite slow and you and I havent tried that in a plaid. We dont know throttle mapping handling etc. It is a heavy car and not a model 3 performance. It seemed the weight just came straight around and he seemed like he did weĺll to stamp on brakes as was a passenger from then on. It goes fast in a straight line but instant torque with those 2 rear motors just doesn't seem very driveable .
@@AG-ob3fx the number one problem was the judgement to put on rear-bias/drift mode(track mode) to try and slide on a public road in a car you're not used to. I don't blame him because he didn't catch the slide, I probably wouldn't have either. But I blame the judgement to do that in someone elses 1000hp, half-steering wheel car while saying "I did in in the Miata"...
@@huzygaming7216 well said. I had similar experience when I let my brother-in-law drove my 2009 Mercedes CLK550 (5.5 V8 rear wheel drive) on sport mode, it was the end of test drive, he made a really fast left turn on an intersection, and thank God the traction control saved us. From that time on, he can’t drive any of my cars. He’s a fxxxxx idiot!
I’m glad Jordan is ok, but that was very irresponsible driving. Track mode on a city street? With that stupid yoke steering wheel? Ridiculous. My guess is the bill will be at least $10K.
Because only suspension components were broken it will be far less than that. It's all the sensors and body parts that sky rocket the repair bills. The wheel will be the highest cost for sure.
I'm betting far more. Should be interesting to see. Real question is what happens to insurance rates? I imagine that's always been a sketchy subject depending on the personal/business use of these cars. But this is reckless driving and posted publically to youtube?
As soon as I got my Plaid people were like “can I drive it?” Having friends who crashed my prior 300HP cars there is no way. If you haven’t driven 1000+HP seriously don’t ever try if it’s not your car!
Man he tells all his bad luck for entire week with about all his cars and Tesla S plaid.. curious about the repairing process in comparison TFL took about 6 months for fixing a Tesla 3 hit in the right tail-light near the port charger, they need not just the broken rear light to be replaced as they thought, but also a new charging port, some modules between inner line and rear quarter panel, a new hatch door (since original got twisted) the entire fixing took way longer that they expected with many delays and also way much more expensive not just for parts alone but also for servicing man-labor / hour since for them the only option was thru a third part service shop -Tesla agreed service facility..
@@rzu7120 I don’t think Elon had a moron who turns on track mode on the street who obviously doesn’t know what he’s doing in a car with that much power in mind when he thought the yoke was a good idea.. P.S. the yoke is stupid!!
Leaking glass roof E-tron is a well known issue especially for the 2019 year. Also the washer of the rear view camera never works and needs to be serviced by the dealer (they add some valve to it).
I made really stupid mistakes like this when I was a kid too. All is not lost as long as Jordan learns a real lesson here. And I disagree with other commenters who are saying that Kyle isn't mad... I think Kyle is super pissed but he knows better than to put it on camera. And frankly he has a right to be pissed.
If I had a tenth of Kyle's patience I'd be pretty happy. I'd have been livid. Not so much at Jordan, but just that it happened at all. The good news is that there were no human injuries!
Call me old fashioned but…that accident makes me question how mature you are to even be driving a vehicle like that. Not to mention what it says to manufactures lending out vehicles for evaluation. Glad you are safe but jeez I would not let you drive anything except a Yugo.
This has been one of my concerns about people buying cars with crazy HP and losing control. Jordan was at least smart enough to "play" where there were no other cars or people.
Jordan is not meant to be part of your team! He shows a true lack of respect for the vehicle and will cause other problems down the road. He does not reflect the kind of personality that you need on your team.
That accident was just a few feet away from being a potential fatality due to a possible impact on a lamp post or a fire hydrant (rather than a forgiving speed sign) and then a possible battery fire. Not good. The flying speed limit sign could have killed someone unfortunate enough to have been walking on that side walk.
A Friendship is tested when the colleague lost control of the owner’s Plaid going way too fast in track mode with hands-off the car’s steering yoke. Totally avoidable accident but no one was bruised except for an ego.
Having listened to Sandy Munro and his engineers discuss how the suspension members are designed to control the movement of the wheel/tire in the event of an accident, I found actually seeing the result to be fascinating. Looking forward to seeing what will be needed to get it back in shape.
What really helped a lot is that the rear bumper with the sensors got damaged. It's going to suck with repair because they communicate by text message it's probably going to take a longer while to get your car back to. That yoke should have a top bar like the C-8 steering wheel, you can't grab it where you need to in the split seconds in the reaction time.
I have a audi e-Tron also, and also developed a leak in mine. The issue is the sun roof seal that's not sealing properly and leak water. Fixed under warranty.
Hmm, this is nice example what happens when unexperienced driver is given powerful car. I am glad that nobody was hurt. This is why in some European courtiers the young drivers get only temporary driving license.
Why do you assume there's rage? It's just a car. He has insurance, I'd hope. And lots of cars. I can understand being disappointed, but if someone crashed my car... /shrug. That being said, person that borrowed my car wouldn't be borrowing another one any time soon.
A truck guy that can drive? Strange. I personally can't stand flexy pickup trucks...cybertruck will be my first pickup truck ever...and that's because it's NOTHING like a regular pickup.
Kudos to you Kyle for your demeanor throughout that. I'm looking forward to the video showing how it is getting those parts as a normal consumer from Tesla. Have they lessened their iron fist ✊ yet?
Kyle, is Jordan going to be given a poster reading "I Am A Knucklehead That Wrecks Plaids" to stand beside on a major roadway in his hometown for 40 hours community service time for atonement? Personally I think he should wear a skunk costume while holding the poster facing oncoming traffic but then I am known for leniency.
It's almost so unreal to know that some people can't really remember when last they drove an internal combustion vehicle. It's cool to see the transition to EV's really happening.
Kyle! Are there any behind the scene bloopers of you losing your cool? You are a very patient and understanding! Props to you! Luckily the Plaid has a wide stance to prevent more body damage from the sign.
My guess is $10,000 and six months. I got rear-ended last year in my Model 3 and went through the Tesla collision center in Denver. Great guys and did a very good job but took three (3!) months and $8,000 (covered by the offender's insurance). Of course my $800/month loan payments and non-use of the car were not covered. The offender's insurance offered me a 10 year old ICE car as a substitute...I refused.
damn kyle, you have more cars than my family and even I'm feeling bad every single one of your cars are all having problems lol. hope everything gets settled brother!
Kind of a small little "moment," but I expect an astronomical repair bill. By all means, let us follow that on the Out of Spec Repairs (whoops, "Reviews") channel, as this all adds up to "UA-cam content" that plenty of us will be interested in. Let me start by saying that I have been an Out of Spec subscriber for years, and Kyle's personality has had plenty to do with that. And Jordan has been doing absolutely excellent work that I have enjoyed. So, yes, there will be problems, but keep up the outstanding work. That said, I consider this to be just another chapter in what frustrates me so much with a lot of UA-cam "car" channels. I hope your organization will use this to make some VERY simple rules for everyone involved: Like "Don't drive like you're on a race track, when you're driving on public roads." So simple. Please. Nothing bothers me more than Kyle's "canyon carving" -- yes, we can see those 35 MPH speed limit signs, and we can often see the speedometer, going up over 70 MPH, over 75 MPH. Not just "20 over" -- which the police in my area will charge you for "reckless driving," but far over that, all the way to "more than double the speed limit." Yes, absolutely, Kyle has proven that he is an excellent, accomplished driver. He can and does drive very quickly through the Nürburgring, talking just as fast all along the way, but that is a CONTROLLED environment. Public roads are the exact opposite. The scenario that always comes to mind with me is "some young family driving a few miles ahead of Kyle," a young couple with a young daughter and a new puppy. For whatever reason, they go around a curve and decide to stop -- either to look at the scenery, or perhaps the puppy needs to stop for a break. Then the young daughter opens up a rear door, the puppy jumps out and starts running across the road, and the little daughter runs after it. And then Kyle Conner comes blasting around the blind curve at 75 MPH, and there's nothing he can do. Kyle gets arrested for reckless driving and vehicular manslaughter and/or vehicular homicide -- and then he can spend several years in prison, thinking about the UA-cam career he tossed away by using "public roads" as "a race track." SAVE IT FOR THE TRACK. EVERY BIT OF IT. Is that too much to ask? I'm sure there are tracks you can use, rather than hooning around on public roads. Of course, you have "been there before," but it's a long drive to the East Coast now. Find a local track, and do your testing there, if you decide that cars "must" be "fun" enough to drive that you need to do race-speed testing with them. For instance, it's like the Model S Plaid -- here's a thousand-horsepower car with an abnormal steering control. "Hey, why don't you take everyone who will drive that thing out on a track, so they can learn how to drive a car with a yoke?" Since apparently Tesla doesn't care about such things. Seriously, most of us "viewers" can't afford cars to just "play" with -- we have to take care of them, so we can use them every day for years to come. Geez, folks, this kind of thing just doesn't need to happen. Drive like lawful citizens on the public roads, and go "have fun" on a track. Please.
It's wild that spinning around & hitting the curb broke both of the wheels. I did that in my 20+ year old truck & nothing happened but some scuffed rims.
Took out the 30MPH street limit sign. 🙂 I'm impressed with the Martian Wheels that didn't come apart after hitting the curb. Sorry for the damage to your car and especially since you haven’t had chances to drive it much. I live on a very tight and narrow S-turn road and I worry about the inertia a lot even with my 4S!
He must have had the Plaid in Mustang mode which makes the car crank the wheel all the way to the right, spin the rear tires, jump the curb, and continue going until stopped by an impact.
Tell the police that someone took the Suburban for a joyride and stole the contents and the keys. It's not an unusual event. The only unusual thing is that they put the truck back in the spot where they found it. Usually they find a joyride vehicle abandoned in some sketchy place.
Sorry for this being in the wrong video, but I have a suggestion for the hogback driver assistance challenge which is to also measure the repeatability of the driver assistance systems. I did some experiments with autopilot by driving the same route multiple times with the same settings. I would then line up the time on the videos and do a pixel by pixel subtraction in premiere pro. It was quite interesting to see what was and was not repeatable on the same stretch of road (it let me see that most of the time, the car seems to take the same route down to about 2 inches for my test road). Also, I think track mode logs the steering wheel rotation angle as well as other data which could let you know more of what happened.
Jordan, you have an awesome boss there in Kyle! Imagine if you were telling your dad what happened because you were on Track Mode while driving on the streets?
You are really cutting the rivian too much slack for issues. An 8k mile truck should not be giving issues like that. If a ranger or colorado was doing the same thing at the same miles people would be pissed, the rivian at 2-3x the price is downright unacceptable.
True but at the same time this isn’t some hundred-year-old car company. This is literally their first vehicle. Honestly if you don’t expect these things going in you’re a bit naïve. I think it’s far more important on how the company addresses them and fixes them.
@@lawnmowerdude irrelevant IMO, there is a reason new car manufacturers don't pop up constantly. It takes allot of work to design a vehicle, and as a company you get one chance to earn a reputation. If a vehicle starts to have issues before 10k miles it wasn't ready for production. We are not talking about a $100 pair of jeans, or a $1400 smart phone, we are talking about a truck that costs as much as a house in some places. I like the rivian, but I won't spend that kind of money to be a part of the R&D team.
Track features are for the track. Tesla would've been able to tell the police what mode you were in when driving on a public street. I don't understand why these guys are laughing,
Excellent video, but would i be trying things out on a public highway with someone else's plus 100 thousand dollar car, absolutely not!! Hope insurance company isn't watching..
LOLOL!!! exposes something I always thought... these cars are so heavy, when the full weight of the car hit those tires, all the internal structure holding the tires completely caved... a regular car would have bounced around more...
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1:25 you had to jinx it because .... well mechanically nothing was wrong.... but nobody is perfect and the driver was the thing that went wrong
Jordan ...we have all ran out of talent at some poimt.
The car is not a sports car, it weighs far to much and may go fast in a straight line but corners are not it's strong point.
Called a spare, the hydrant is still there.
What happened to Model S ? Any update on cost of the damage , kyle never mentioned anything about it afterwards
@@srikrishnathatavarthi283 he said on inside ev podcast friday that nothing has happened and notified insurance and waiting for assesor.
He also said updates will be on his personal channel kyle conner.
Wow! Kyle sure held his cool. Only thing that makes Kyle angry is slow dc chargers and when Starbucks runs out of acai.
Slow chargers are the reason I will never drive an EV. Would drive me crazy
@@thoos192 If you don’t road trip a-lot and can charge at home it’s really not a big deal. I’ve only supercharger around 20 times over the 15k miles I’ve used. Most of it was on a road trip over 2000 miles.
Uhmm actually 🤓 the 300 amp limitation could..............😂
@@Koul We need more of these 560 kW capable chargers Jordan presented in the last charging park video. 🤩
I can say this is 1000% accurate 😂
I am incredibly impressed by your kind-hearted nature and your ability to laugh through all this craziness, Kyle. Jordan and the rest of your crew are blessed to have you as a friend.
So long as there is no one injured, I suppose its fine. But would not let him have any keys after that.
Get real, things like these increase views dude, cars are his business its not like he has only one car like me, naturally I would freak if somebody scrapped it leaving me with no car and bunch of problems
What was he gonna do, throw a hissy fit on camera? 🙄
When you got insurance and the money then no worries
When you have a certain amount of millions, these kinds of things are easy to laugh at.
This is what Car and Driver called inappropriate rotation at the point of disappearing talent. We should not have 1000 hp cars and 4-second pickup trucks being driven by people who are not trained and experienced in high-performance driving.
Glad Jordan is okay. I certainly can't cast any stones. In my 73 years I've pulled some real brilliant moves, and lucky to still be on the planet in relatively one piece. And Kyle I admire your level headed reaction to the situation! Kudos!
So he's proven he can't drive, spinning out a Miata and then tries it again in a 1000hp monster that isnt his in track mode on a public road? What a tool.
Man, if I had this happen to me, I’d be pissed and going nuts.
Whenever I go thru something stressful in life, I’m gonna start asking myself “How would Kyle react?”
Kyle is like me, he gets pissed for small things. Like someone talking over him before he explained/completes his statement of hold the drive mode button to activate snow mode on Hyundai Ioniq 5. Some video from beginning of this year.
Kyle handled this like a man; acknowledged his risk in letting someone else drive his ultra-high performance car. Bad judgement call, but a learning experience. Hope he can get it repaired expeditiously to enjoy the car before the snow flys and nobody should be driving that car on Colorado sanded-for-ice roads.
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I had recently had a good friend of mine that just died from being under a vehicle without a JACK STAND. Please do not make this MISTAKE ever again!!! The worst can happen very quickly. I like to watch your videos. But safety first need to be a priority!!!!
condolences:(
Sorry for your loss and for the impolite reply that I decided to ignore to avoid a long-winded counterpoint. Your reminder is very helpful as we should always have jack stands when jacking a car, but I do want to point out that no one in this video is underneath the car or otherwise in any obvious danger if the jack were to fail. An arm does seem to go under the front to give a camera view of the front links, but even then a jack failure would cause the front end to rise, not fall. It's still good to remind people that jack stands are life-saving equipment, however. Jacks can fail or slip at any moment.
This is why I always put the spare tire, snow tire, whichever is at hand, when I have car on a jack, even a stable scissor jack. If it comes down, I'll live.
@@antibrevity I'm assuming that the only things remotely under car components were the camera, and maybe a hand or two.
“I’m not mad at you son, just disappointed”.
I think he’s laughing as a copping mechanism 😭 I wouldn’t be able to handle that many problems at once
Being able to see footage from so many angles is such an asset for car accidents. It’ll happen soon for sure but every car should be required to have at least 2 cameras not including the back up cam
So, he spun out before with another car and he decided to do it again with a $100,000 plus car that's not his? Kyle, if you let him drive the upcoming all new Tesla Roadster you are a fool. Gr8 vid by the way. 🚙 🇺🇸
Only let that guy drive the Smart Car and the Chevy Bolt. No GMC Denalis, no Rivians, and definitely no Model S Plaids or Tesla Roadsters.
Once you get a break, twice, you get fired
When you place it in Track Mode, you've essentially turned off all the control safety features. As Kyle said, "Track Mode is for the track". Not sure who was in more pain, Kyle or Jordan. Kyle either gets an Oscar, or is truly The Man! Those of us who have also done something stupid (in hindsight) can truly feel the pain. Good news, more future content! Please include how all the expenses are handled: insurance, business write-off, out of pocket(s), who's pocket etc.
Jordan’s footing the repair bill, right?
All things considered, Kyle showed great composure in the face of difficulty.
That is going to cost a lot of money for somebody. That car will never be right again.
Kyle sounds calm and forgiving, but I also hear a lot of sarcasm which is probably how he expresses his anger. He had a week of car issues and was relaying on this Plaid, I'm pretty sure he's disappointed and upset.. but he's trying to play it cool.
Let's hope it doesn't all come out at once...
I was hearing that as well. Either way, he took it way better than I would've. Kudos to him!
@@JLclickk so true
I'm glad Jordan is uninjured. No more Plaid driving for awhile. The heater core EXPLOSION in the Land Rover is REALLY terrifying, Alyssa and you could have been very badly burned 🔥 . One hellish week Kyle!
Yeah I think Tesla needs to ditch the yolk steering. It’s OK if everything’s going smoothly but if things get out-of-control it ain’t worth crap.🤔
I get that people make mistakes and shit happens... I am usually very chill if a friend makes a mistake.
But this was just purely stupid... why would you ever take your friends car out and try to drift it on public streets, It would be stupid enough on a empty parking lot, and be zero damage...
Especially with 1000hp monster you're not used to, and with the yoke wheel that you're not used to.
I have over 200 000km on my Model 3 Performance, I have a lot of experience on sliding and track mode. I would've never have tried to drift that corner without winter conditions.
Winter is much safer because everything is so much slower and doesn't need so much momentum to get sliding.
Hopefully this guy gets more respect for others car after this, this was just extremely stupid.
If you have never done anything stupid driving a car in your 20's then good for you.
Try not to judge others as it's Kyle's car and Jordan and the crew work and play hard and whilst gutted,the honesty and friendship they have is worth more than your judgemnet.
@@AG-ob3fx I absolutely don't think bad of Kyle or his crew... but it was a really stupid mistake. No sugar-coating that.
Hopefully he will learn his lesson and beware. I have crashed a few times, one or two was dumb and inexperienced... but this one was really next level stupid.
As with every mistake, hopefully, he learns a thing or two and will be very careful with other cars he will drive.
I never claimed they shouldn't be friends, or get fired... or anything. Just acknowledging the really stupid mistake. I think the guy who crashed probably agrees with me that it was really stupid 😆
Look at video of accident again through front camera.
He came in quite slow and you and I havent tried that in a plaid.
We dont know throttle mapping handling etc.
It is a heavy car and not a model 3 performance.
It seemed the weight just came straight around and he seemed like he did weĺll to stamp on brakes as was a passenger from then on.
It goes fast in a straight line but instant torque with those 2 rear motors just doesn't seem very driveable .
@@AG-ob3fx the number one problem was the judgement to put on rear-bias/drift mode(track mode) to try and slide on a public road in a car you're not used to.
I don't blame him because he didn't catch the slide, I probably wouldn't have either. But I blame the judgement to do that in someone elses 1000hp, half-steering wheel car while saying "I did in in the Miata"...
@@huzygaming7216 well said. I had similar experience when I let my brother-in-law drove my 2009 Mercedes CLK550 (5.5 V8 rear wheel drive) on sport mode, it was the end of test drive, he made a really fast left turn on an intersection, and thank God the traction control saved us. From that time on, he can’t drive any of my cars. He’s a fxxxxx idiot!
I’m glad Jordan is ok, but that was very irresponsible driving. Track mode on a city street? With that stupid yoke steering wheel? Ridiculous. My guess is the bill will be at least $10K.
Because only suspension components were broken it will be far less than that. It's all the sensors and body parts that sky rocket the repair bills. The wheel will be the highest cost for sure.
@@scottivlow9962 Agreed. Suspension components shouldn't be too bad to replace. Honestly, the new set of tires might actually be more.
And the rear wheel will cost more than the tires. They are only Michelin.
I'm betting far more. Should be interesting to see. Real question is what happens to insurance rates? I imagine that's always been a sketchy subject depending on the personal/business use of these cars. But this is reckless driving and posted publically to youtube?
My guess is over $20k, the external damage is likely hiding even more expensive damage under the skin
Awesome display of kindness and understanding! Glad everyone is okay!
As soon as I got my Plaid people were like “can I drive it?”
Having friends who crashed my prior 300HP cars there is no way.
If you haven’t driven 1000+HP seriously don’t ever try if it’s not your car!
Don't lie - you don't own a Plaid
What do you think the repair costs will be? I’ll share final details, of course, once the car is fixed ⚡️
25k
8.5k
3.5k
35k
10.5k if wheels and tires from sponsor (Drew)
Much respect, Kyle, for handling this like a man.
Man he tells all his bad luck for entire week with about all his cars and Tesla S plaid.. curious about the repairing process in comparison TFL took about 6 months for fixing a Tesla 3 hit in the right tail-light near the port charger, they need not just the broken rear light to be replaced as they thought, but also a new charging port, some modules between inner line and rear quarter panel, a new hatch door (since original got twisted) the entire fixing took way longer that they expected with many delays and also way much more expensive not just for parts alone but also for servicing man-labor / hour since for them the only option was thru a third part service shop -Tesla agreed service facility..
This guy deserves to drive the smart car for the next year or 2 and pay for damages
The suburban might be better punishment
I honestly don’t understand how you control a car with a yoke steering wheel with that kind of power.
Elon didn't think that one through.
@@rzu7120 I don’t think Elon had a moron who turns on track mode on the street who obviously doesn’t know what he’s doing in a car with that much power in mind when he thought the yoke was a good idea.. P.S. the yoke is stupid!!
@@rzu7120 maybe he did😏
Clearly, you dont
You can't. It's the most idiotic thing ever.
Camera goes off- kyles scream heard from Colorado- track mode , track mode you …, Jordon your buying , what a week
i dont understand how you can be 2 seconds into a spin and be like yea throttle is fine
Leaking glass roof E-tron is a well known issue especially for the 2019 year. Also the washer of the rear view camera never works and needs to be serviced by the dealer (they add some valve to it).
Maybe the nozzle is a sneaky james bond like oil squirter so to not wash the cam but get rid of trailing agents. 😂
That’s why I don’t like glass roofs or moonroofs
How’s this going to effect Jordon’s (or your’s) insurance rates for his reckless driving?
I made really stupid mistakes like this when I was a kid too. All is not lost as long as Jordan learns a real lesson here. And I disagree with other commenters who are saying that Kyle isn't mad... I think Kyle is super pissed but he knows better than to put it on camera. And frankly he has a right to be pissed.
he will be when his insurance premiums skyrocket
If I had a tenth of Kyle's patience I'd be pretty happy. I'd have been livid. Not so much at Jordan, but just that it happened at all. The good news is that there were no human injuries!
$20,000 worth of suspension damage but if the battery pack was scraped the car will be most likely totaled
Glad everyone is ok.
Another proof that Plaid version requires drivers with at least little more than basic driving skills.
Call me old fashioned but…that accident makes me question how mature you are to even be driving a vehicle like that. Not to mention what it says to manufactures lending out vehicles for evaluation. Glad you are safe but jeez I would not let you drive anything except a Yugo.
Hey I use to own a Yugo. 😆 🤣 😂 😹
I drove a Chevette back in the day and that’s got to much power for him.
@@glenkellner9936 I have an Ecoboost mustang and that to much power for him...
This has been one of my concerns about people buying cars with crazy HP and losing control. Jordan was at least smart enough to "play" where there were no other cars or people.
Yeah a 1000hp car with Camry brakes lol…..
@@alanmay7929 brakes weren’t the problem here
@YYpang lol….. tell that to the people who have attempted to barely push the car further! 🤡
@@theseb1979 Yeah him staying on the gas was...
Jordan is not meant to be part of your team! He shows a true lack of respect for the vehicle and will cause other problems down the road. He does not reflect the kind of personality that you need on your team.
That accident was just a few feet away from being a potential fatality due to a possible impact on a lamp post or a fire hydrant (rather than a forgiving speed sign) and then a possible battery fire. Not good. The flying speed limit sign could have killed someone unfortunate enough to have been walking on that side walk.
I doudt it the engery invaled was not that much as he was only going at most 40MPH but more likly far less as it was in a slow turn.
Bummer! That yoke probably didn't help much, huh?
Jordan needs to pay the total repair bill himself. That'll teach him an important lesson.
Ooof. Glad Jordan is okay. At least we'll get more content on the Plaid, maybe not what was originally intended, but more content.
A Friendship is tested when the colleague lost control of the owner’s Plaid going way too fast in track mode with hands-off the car’s steering yoke. Totally avoidable accident but no one was bruised except for an ego.
Having listened to Sandy Munro and his engineers discuss how the suspension members are designed to control the movement of the wheel/tire in the event of an accident, I found actually seeing the result to be fascinating. Looking forward to seeing what will be needed to get it back in shape.
$25K and 90+ days
What really helped a
lot is that the rear bumper with the sensors got damaged. It's going to suck with repair because they communicate by text message it's probably going to take a longer while to get your car back to.
That yoke should have a top bar like the C-8 steering wheel, you can't grab it where you need to in the split seconds in the reaction time.
I have a audi e-Tron also, and also developed a leak in mine. The issue is the sun roof seal that's not sealing properly and leak water. Fixed under warranty.
Hmm, this is nice example what happens when unexperienced driver is given powerful car. I am glad that nobody was hurt.
This is why in some European courtiers the young drivers get only temporary driving license.
Get the locks changed on the Suburban before they "borrow" it again!
And an ashtray too.
I’ll let the ads run… doing my part. Sorry all that happened. Glad everyone is okay!
Everything is going wrong, his most valuable car gets crashed, and we still get endless Kyle chuckles. This is why I can’t get enough OOS
I'd really like to see the estimate to fix this car. Im guessing its in the neighborhood of $20k or more.
Kyle has amazing inside rage
Why do you assume there's rage?
It's just a car. He has insurance, I'd hope. And lots of cars. I can understand being disappointed, but if someone crashed my car...
/shrug.
That being said, person that borrowed my car wouldn't be borrowing another one any time soon.
@@forbesjeff I'm joking 😂 Yes I agree that friend won't be using my Plaid any time soon 🤣
Children should not be driving these performance vehicles.
Did Jordan get an unsafe driving ticket for that crash that is memorialized on UA-cam?
I'd be pissed! You handled it much better than me
Call Munro Live. They’ve got all the parts you need.
The amount of luck with how the vehicle hit the sign with only the wheel and didn't contact the hydrant or the streetlamp is amazing.
It would have been even luckier if the guy hadn't driven recklessly on public roads in a 1,000-horsepower, $140,000 car.
@@zzanatos2001 troo
A truck guy that can drive? Strange. I personally can't stand flexy pickup trucks...cybertruck will be my first pickup truck ever...and that's because it's NOTHING like a regular pickup.
Kudos to you Kyle for your demeanor throughout that. I'm looking forward to the video showing how it is getting those parts as a normal consumer from Tesla. Have they lessened their iron fist ✊ yet?
Serious question: can you lock the Plaid into some sort of Placid mode when you loan it out?
Yes. I believe they have valet mode on Tesla's.
As Marin Brundle would say….”he just ran out of talent”
Kyle, is Jordan going to be given a poster reading "I Am A Knucklehead That Wrecks Plaids" to stand beside on a major roadway in his hometown for 40 hours community service time for atonement? Personally I think he should wear a skunk costume while holding the poster facing oncoming traffic but then I am known for leniency.
Well said sir, well said
I'm impressed by his calm demeanor 👍🏽
Crap. I hate that. I don’t think it will ever be the same again. Such a waste.
The way he held his cool, and kept his mind was amazing 😅
Kyle needs to visit an old gypsy woman and buy some curse protection amulet. Or something.
It's almost so unreal to know that some people can't really remember when last they drove an internal combustion vehicle. It's cool to see the transition to EV's really happening.
Kyle! Are there any behind the scene bloopers of you losing your cool? You are a very patient and understanding! Props to you!
Luckily the Plaid has a wide stance to prevent more body damage from the sign.
My guess is $10,000 and six months. I got rear-ended last year in my Model 3 and went through the Tesla collision center in Denver. Great guys and did a very good job but took three (3!) months and $8,000 (covered by the offender's insurance). Of course my $800/month loan payments and non-use of the car were not covered. The offender's insurance offered me a 10 year old ICE car as a substitute...I refused.
The yoke doesn't make the oversteer easier to correct...
Watched the first 10 seconds of this video, saw the crash and realized someone stupid was doing stupid things and that was enough to quit watching.
damn kyle, you have more cars than my family and even I'm feeling bad every single one of your cars are all having problems lol. hope everything gets settled brother!
Kyle is now sending Jordan off to Siberia to review a used 1980 Lada.
Off to ride a dead ebike across Death Valley... :D
Kind of a small little "moment," but I expect an astronomical repair bill. By all means, let us follow that on the Out of Spec Repairs (whoops, "Reviews") channel, as this all adds up to "UA-cam content" that plenty of us will be interested in. Let me start by saying that I have been an Out of Spec subscriber for years, and Kyle's personality has had plenty to do with that. And Jordan has been doing absolutely excellent work that I have enjoyed. So, yes, there will be problems, but keep up the outstanding work.
That said, I consider this to be just another chapter in what frustrates me so much with a lot of UA-cam "car" channels. I hope your organization will use this to make some VERY simple rules for everyone involved: Like "Don't drive like you're on a race track, when you're driving on public roads." So simple. Please. Nothing bothers me more than Kyle's "canyon carving" -- yes, we can see those 35 MPH speed limit signs, and we can often see the speedometer, going up over 70 MPH, over 75 MPH. Not just "20 over" -- which the police in my area will charge you for "reckless driving," but far over that, all the way to "more than double the speed limit." Yes, absolutely, Kyle has proven that he is an excellent, accomplished driver. He can and does drive very quickly through the Nürburgring, talking just as fast all along the way, but that is a CONTROLLED environment. Public roads are the exact opposite.
The scenario that always comes to mind with me is "some young family driving a few miles ahead of Kyle," a young couple with a young daughter and a new puppy. For whatever reason, they go around a curve and decide to stop -- either to look at the scenery, or perhaps the puppy needs to stop for a break. Then the young daughter opens up a rear door, the puppy jumps out and starts running across the road, and the little daughter runs after it. And then Kyle Conner comes blasting around the blind curve at 75 MPH, and there's nothing he can do. Kyle gets arrested for reckless driving and vehicular manslaughter and/or vehicular homicide -- and then he can spend several years in prison, thinking about the UA-cam career he tossed away by using "public roads" as "a race track."
SAVE IT FOR THE TRACK. EVERY BIT OF IT. Is that too much to ask? I'm sure there are tracks you can use, rather than hooning around on public roads. Of course, you have "been there before," but it's a long drive to the East Coast now. Find a local track, and do your testing there, if you decide that cars "must" be "fun" enough to drive that you need to do race-speed testing with them. For instance, it's like the Model S Plaid -- here's a thousand-horsepower car with an abnormal steering control. "Hey, why don't you take everyone who will drive that thing out on a track, so they can learn how to drive a car with a yoke?" Since apparently Tesla doesn't care about such things.
Seriously, most of us "viewers" can't afford cars to just "play" with -- we have to take care of them, so we can use them every day for years to come. Geez, folks, this kind of thing just doesn't need to happen. Drive like lawful citizens on the public roads, and go "have fun" on a track. Please.
Ummm...You guys had me trying to figure out way my dashcam has no audio! LOL 🙂
Old Range rovers are the worst 😂 and seem to bring bad luck to anyone within 2 feet of them.
It's wild that spinning around & hitting the curb broke both of the wheels. I did that in my 20+ year old truck & nothing happened but some scuffed rims.
Took out the 30MPH street limit sign. 🙂 I'm impressed with the Martian Wheels that didn't come apart after hitting the curb. Sorry for the damage to your car and especially since you haven’t had chances to drive it much. I live on a very tight and narrow S-turn road and I worry about the inertia a lot even with my 4S!
75% chance they will total that car and it’s a shame. That would be my guess.
He must have had the Plaid in Mustang mode which makes the car crank the wheel all the way to the right, spin the rear tires, jump the curb, and continue going until stopped by an impact.
More like Hellcat Mode
Tell the police that someone took the Suburban for a joyride and stole the contents and the keys. It's not an unusual event. The only unusual thing is that they put the truck back in the spot where they found it. Usually they find a joyride vehicle abandoned in some sketchy place.
8k miles is not aged! 300k is considered aged.
yikes! at least you didn't hit that fire hydrant 😬
He would not be driving any of my cars again. Irresponsible
"Why does Rimac only have 70 % power in sport mode?!"
"It is enough" 😅
Sorry for this being in the wrong video, but I have a suggestion for the hogback driver assistance challenge which is to also measure the repeatability of the driver assistance systems. I did some experiments with autopilot by driving the same route multiple times with the same settings. I would then line up the time on the videos and do a pixel by pixel subtraction in premiere pro. It was quite interesting to see what was and was not repeatable on the same stretch of road (it let me see that most of the time, the car seems to take the same route down to about 2 inches for my test road).
Also, I think track mode logs the steering wheel rotation angle as well as other data which could let you know more of what happened.
Kyle you have the patience of a saint
I'm glad Jordan is safe and that Kyle is Kyle. I hope the Plaid is back in action soon.
Jordan, you have an awesome boss there in Kyle! Imagine if you were telling your dad what happened because you were on Track Mode while driving on the streets?
Damm bro, don’t drift the corner
You are really cutting the rivian too much slack for issues. An 8k mile truck should not be giving issues like that. If a ranger or colorado was doing the same thing at the same miles people would be pissed, the rivian at 2-3x the price is downright unacceptable.
True but at the same time this isn’t some hundred-year-old car company. This is literally their first vehicle. Honestly if you don’t expect these things going in you’re a bit naïve. I think it’s far more important on how the company addresses them and fixes them.
@@lawnmowerdude irrelevant IMO, there is a reason new car manufacturers don't pop up constantly. It takes allot of work to design a vehicle, and as a company you get one chance to earn a reputation. If a vehicle starts to have issues before 10k miles it wasn't ready for production. We are not talking about a $100 pair of jeans, or a $1400 smart phone, we are talking about a truck that costs as much as a house in some places. I like the rivian, but I won't spend that kind of money to be a part of the R&D team.
Track features are for the track. Tesla would've been able to tell the police what mode you were in when driving on a public street. I don't understand why these guys are laughing,
Excellent video, but would i be trying things out on a public highway with someone else's plus 100 thousand dollar car, absolutely not!! Hope insurance company isn't watching..
Flooring a plaid in track mode in the corner? What was the idea?
LOLOL!!! exposes something I always thought... these cars are so heavy, when the full weight of the car hit those tires, all the internal structure holding the tires completely caved... a regular car would have bounced around more...
Yes, good point.
Really rather irresponsible. Why do they think it’s so funny?
Bro at this point im just gonna give a like for your mood through this
“Tesla Model S Plaid…now featuring Super-HICAS!”
This is the VERY reason you don’t let anyone drive your new car….