2022 Tesla Model X Long Range 70 MPH Highway Range Test - Will It Go Farther Than The BMW iX?

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  • Kyle is in Colorado with the 2022 Tesla Model X which is the long range, all-wheel drive variant. This vehicle is equipped with the standard 20" wheel and tire package and has less than 10,000 miles on the odometer to keep it a pretty fresh car!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 379

  • @cinchan04
    @cinchan04 2 роки тому +20

    Another informative video.. This real world range test is really very helpful for EV enthusiasts.. Thanks guys

  • @LearningFast
    @LearningFast 2 роки тому +36

    That is absolutely crazy that the Model X had the exact same efficiency(~281 Wh/mi) as the Model 3 Performance. I can’t stress enough how significant that is.

    • @PrzyjemnePieniadze
      @PrzyjemnePieniadze 2 роки тому +11

      It looks same as model Y, so I can't believe why this one costs 130k. The inside is a joke compared to the craftsmanship, luxury in a BMW for 100k.

    • @ogzombieblunt4626
      @ogzombieblunt4626 2 роки тому +8

      @@PrzyjemnePieniadze
      The bmw still looks outdated inside but better than previous beamers, buttons and a joy stick is tacky. Lets not even start about that grill 🤣

    • @PrzyjemnePieniadze
      @PrzyjemnePieniadze 2 роки тому +9

      @@ogzombieblunt4626"looks outdated", you must be coming from the distant future mate 😆😅I've seen a lot of reviews of BMW iX and I've never come across opinnion like yourse.

    • @ogzombieblunt4626
      @ogzombieblunt4626 2 роки тому +1

      @@PrzyjemnePieniadze nice job liking your own comment 🤣
      Yes my moms lexus had a joystick. Super tacky.

    • @PrzyjemnePieniadze
      @PrzyjemnePieniadze 2 роки тому +4

      @@ogzombieblunt4626 I guess it's logical that I like my comments 😆😁

  • @o0HERO0o
    @o0HERO0o 9 місяців тому +3

    "it's about 98 to 100 degrees right now" Kyle says in a hoodie, lol I love it. Great video as always.

    • @TSERJI
      @TSERJI 4 місяці тому

      😂

  • @troykm
    @troykm 2 роки тому +2

    I think you should get an award for non stop talking the whole time 😂😂😂 great video.

  • @GeoffreyHodies
    @GeoffreyHodies 2 роки тому +9

    280W hours per mile is pretty incredible. Given that my 2018 performance model three with 20 inch tires averages 300. Just shows how efficient Teslas have become in only four years.

    • @hotrod182
      @hotrod182 2 роки тому +1

      BMW is actually more impressive in motor technology considering it weighs quite a bit more that the Tesla, has 22" wheels, and doesn't look like a tear drop. Those who bemoan the ix for the bigger battery, forget to consider the fact that the bigger heavier battery also reduces efficiency.

    • @BikerJim74
      @BikerJim74 Рік тому

      too bad they are junk in everything else.

    • @SirDragonClaw
      @SirDragonClaw Рік тому +2

      @@hotrod182 Its really not more impressive. 15% more battery is a huge difference.

    • @hotrod182
      @hotrod182 Рік тому +1

      @@SirDragonClaw The bigger battery also weighs more, and the BMW weighs more, because its premium in every facet. Seriously, after sitting in the BMW, the Tesla feels cheap.

    • @hotrod182
      @hotrod182 Рік тому

      @@SirDragonClaw Yeah, but when you buy something at that price, everything else matters. Besides better range the ix is quieter, better ride, better quality, better stereo, better laser headlights, has advanced HUD, more exclusive, etc, etc. But if you are looking for efficiency, the Tesla wins. But the main reason that matters is for range. And even in the point, the Tesla loses. And as a brand, BMW is #1 in consumer reports latest brand survey. Tesla was far far behind. Losing , Losing.

  • @julie4871
    @julie4871 2 роки тому +2

    Nice Job Kyle, You always make Sure the Test are FAIR. ... I Like your line : " I don't care what it is, I Just want to Know what it Does. " I did expect a little bit more Range on this X. Thanks for the Video. 😁

  • @deyaoren
    @deyaoren 2 роки тому +5

    If my memory is correct, you range tested IX in efficient mode. Based on my 1000 mile driving experiences with IX, I feel in more time efficient mode uses one motor. Don't know for sure, just my feeling. That may experience why IX out ran EPA estimation by 60+ miles.

  • @tonyLee-rw3cv
    @tonyLee-rw3cv 2 роки тому +2

    True test is Los Angeles to Las Vegas/ driving on average 75 - 85mph and up/down elevation. Currently only 400+ range EVs can make it nonstop.

  • @Aundra34
    @Aundra34 2 роки тому +1

    I was literally wondering this week when you were going to test the Model X. I can't wait to watch.

  • @IceburgEVolution
    @IceburgEVolution 2 роки тому +19

    Kyle, do you have a spreadsheet or a post that lists out all of your tests? I just would like to see what capacities you (and crew) have run the vehicles through. I have a 2020 MS performance, and 324 at 100% (estimated) and am curious if I could achieve the 330+ miles as I can easily achieve less than 280 watts/mile on highway runs. Also looking at bolts and and E-trons as well. Thanks in advance, just a nerd wanting to see numbers. PS hope the Plaid is on the road sooner than later!!

    • @Sam-gf1eb
      @Sam-gf1eb 2 роки тому

      There's a playlist with all his videos about MPG and efficiency

  • @MrZimmmy
    @MrZimmmy 2 роки тому +25

    Another great range test analysis from Kyle Connor! Thank you! I prefer BMW iX M50 for reasons Kyle cited (i.e. smooth ride, QUIET, luxurious feel, ~$15K less expensive) but Tesla’s performance wins, if that’s a key buying feature.

    • @troyp9485
      @troyp9485 2 роки тому +8

      But the BMW isn’t a fascist mobile. Give Elon money? Oh hell no.

    • @eyes7054
      @eyes7054 2 роки тому +8

      I already have the model Y, so for my wife I will get the BMW ix instead. The price is lower and the range is the same.

    • @juanmedinar20
      @juanmedinar20 2 роки тому +2

      How do they compare in space, cargo capacity and safety? The charging network is a big one.

    • @juanmedinar20
      @juanmedinar20 2 роки тому +7

      @@troyp9485 Germany is helping Russia lol

    • @Ramneek22
      @Ramneek22 2 роки тому

      Good luck charging and goin on road trips

  • @MaazJilani
    @MaazJilani 2 роки тому +4

    Kyle can you please do a range test with a model s plaid with 19 inch wheels. Or a long range model s with 19 inch wheels.

  • @larry6736
    @larry6736 2 роки тому +1

    You state full charge range of 351 but Tesla websites states that the long range MX, 20" wheels with 6-seat interior provides 348 miles on full charge. 351 miles is only available on 5-seat configuration, 20" wheels.

  • @Kevin-cf8uu
    @Kevin-cf8uu 2 роки тому +6

    This is why I think it would be nice to get vehicles EPA rated for 400-450 miles to put the range with one charge comparable to that of current ICE vehicles.

    • @rudyyyxu
      @rudyyyxu 2 роки тому +1

      Hope the cars won’t gain too much weight in trying to do so

    • @Michael-db4sn
      @Michael-db4sn 2 роки тому +1

      Ice trucks have that range. Not sure about most cars.

  • @davidbailey6112
    @davidbailey6112 2 роки тому +2

    Wow that model X looks great with that wrap and slammed, so sweet!

  • @joemartino6976
    @joemartino6976 2 роки тому +4

    Great review. I'm impressed by the iX, particularly given that it was shod with 22" wheels (vs 20" for Tesla X). The EV world is still Tesla-centric, however, with all these new cars being introduced, I can begin to see it become more diverse and multi-faceted.

  • @MrTaliz
    @MrTaliz 2 роки тому +7

    The battery in the refresh S/X is smaller than previously.
    So don’t assume you’d get much more from a fresh pack.

  • @abraxastulammo9940
    @abraxastulammo9940 2 роки тому +9

    Tesla: "I am No.1, so why try harder?" 😏
    BMW: "O RLY?" 😋

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 2 роки тому

      BMW X7 X-Drive petrol is the competition. Not the BMW iX.
      Audi A6 TFSI is the competition. Not the Audi E-Tron.
      And no: Tesla is not number one. The environment and our lungs are.

  • @torinmcmaster4849
    @torinmcmaster4849 2 роки тому +12

    I would love see these tests at 80mph as well Kyle. Really good thorough stuff!

    • @SirDragonClaw
      @SirDragonClaw Рік тому

      I want to see these tests at a more realistic speed of 50-60mph as well.

    • @michaels7984
      @michaels7984 Рік тому

      ​@SirDragonClaw depends where you live, here in texas, 80mph is pretty normal highway speed. You'll get run off the road going 50-60.

  • @slyguyaction
    @slyguyaction 2 роки тому

    I really like your personal channel, btw. Really enjoyed the VW Jetta GLI content. Thank you

  • @Aizman87
    @Aizman87 2 роки тому +4

    you could also have pushed the BMW IX M60 even further you had still almost 50% power available on that test means you could probably have went another 5-10 miles. Bmw usually have a pretty big bottom butter.

  • @jeremyi4891
    @jeremyi4891 9 місяців тому

    Good way to estimate the cybertruck. Cybertruck battery is 20% larger, but also 20% more weight and 20% drag. So safe to assume 300 miles is actually doable

  • @mannychesters5358
    @mannychesters5358 2 роки тому +10

    Great job Kyle!!! This should be a wake up call for Tesla. I don’t think anyone spending ~70% more for Model X over a Y wants similar range. X is 130 grand, Tesla flagship. drivetrain efficiency means not many extra cells to get X to 400. should be at least the same range as Model S.
    Not advocating a mileage range race, but Tesla needs to set a range standard for their premium car.

    • @NeilSalaria
      @NeilSalaria 2 роки тому +5

      Model Y is for the masses, Model X is not. So people looking to buy the X will not buy it for its range. I’m talking from experience as I bought a X Plaid and traded in a model 3 performance and have already driven 2500 miles to Yellowstone and had no issue with range. I love the performance and the 6 seat configuration for my family.

    • @rudyyyxu
      @rudyyyxu 2 роки тому +1

      @@NeilSalaria 3 performance handles so much better tho especially with a great after market support. But I guess not nearly as practical as the x

    • @cwang9915
      @cwang9915 2 роки тому +4

      I have a X Plaid and a Y LR. The X is more comfortable, feels a lot more roomier, and of course way faster.
      Both great cars and the X is for people who want more than what the Y provides. Especially if you often drive with a family. The 6 seat configuration is the best

    • @rj8u
      @rj8u 2 роки тому +3

      Lol wake up call for Tesla to🤣. Tesla is selling more electric cars than anyone else today 😜 besides both the model S and Model X are not Tesla priority anymore in regards to what companies goal to produce more electric cars. The S and X are just side projects for Tesla and it's engineers thus you have not seen a total refresh of both cars.

    • @ultrastoat3298
      @ultrastoat3298 2 роки тому

      Haha wake up call, what are you talking about. Tesla is the number one EV manufacturer in the world. And they are doing it with bigger margins. Everyone else is paying more for their batteries AND having to use more of them in their cars. This is a wake up call to the legacy auto industry. Bankruptcy is around the corner.

  • @yvesvandenbroek6055
    @yvesvandenbroek6055 2 роки тому +9

    I switched from a Model X to a BMW iX best decision ever … and this test confirms all my findings.

    • @genierainbowmagick600
      @genierainbowmagick600 2 роки тому

      Why did you Switch?

    • @yvesvandenbroek6055
      @yvesvandenbroek6055 2 роки тому +3

      @@genierainbowmagick600Multitude of reasons, BMW knows how to build cars, and that shows in every aspect. Driving noise, suspension, handling (4 wheel steering makes it very agile), real 360 camera, no phantom breaking, cross traffic warning when exiting a driveway or parking spot, amazing sound system B&W, interior quality, Apple CarPlay. Model X is not a bad car but is below on each of the points mentioned. The one thing MX has the route planner / SC network that is way better, but in Europe SC network is open so I can get by and I use ABRP to fix the software of the route planner …

    • @jonathansage2147
      @jonathansage2147 2 роки тому

      @@yvesvandenbroek6055 what year was your X?

    • @yvesvandenbroek6055
      @yvesvandenbroek6055 2 роки тому

      @@jonathansage2147 2020 and I did put 20 inch slipstreams on it to be more efficient but even then the iX on 22’s is as efficient. I’m sure all these tests gives a good indication but in day to day drive the iX consumes less I have a home work drive where the Tesla consumed 7.5 to 8 kWh the iX is 6.5 to 7 it;s a 34km drive with 30km highway ….

    • @yvesvandenbroek6055
      @yvesvandenbroek6055 2 роки тому

      @@jonathansage2147 also it was not the efficiency that was the main trigger, I was expecting that the iX would be less efficient. It’s the comfort that was the main driver, the little squeaks the lack of CarPlay, the lack of true 360 camera, phantom breaking etc that drove me away from Tesla

  • @AlexanderMaxham
    @AlexanderMaxham 2 роки тому +7

    98 degrees and he's wearing a hoodie lol

  • @KennyKo39
    @KennyKo39 2 роки тому +1

    CAN Bus data shows about 94kwh usable so getting 93 used is pretty good.

  • @Tonar18
    @Tonar18 Рік тому +6

    Now that the MX starts at $80K does that change your opinion on which is the better value? Also which would get you to 600 miles faster on a road trip? Just sold my MME and looking at both. After having a CCS car, pretty sure I’m going Model X. Thoughts? Love all you guys do!

    • @kakashi3543
      @kakashi3543 10 місяців тому +1

      You got this right! After owning two ccs cars I will go for Tesla immediately! But if the infrastructure changes, who knows...

    • @JW77
      @JW77 9 місяців тому +1

      In the US where non-tesla network sucks, Tesla makes most sense. But if I'm in most other countries where all manufactures have to conform to unified charging standard, I'll take the BMW.

    • @Tonar18
      @Tonar18 9 місяців тому

      I’m excited for 2025 in the US when everyone will be using NACS as a native plug on their cars and charging stations will all become more and more standardized. I can’t imagine buying a car in 2024 with a CCS port. Next year could be the big year for EV’s here. I think for the money I’d still choose the MX over the BMW, but I couldn’t blame anyone (next year) for going with the iX. It looks like a great vehicle.

    • @BBingo-v5i
      @BBingo-v5i 8 місяців тому

      KIA EV9 AWD is the vehicle to go for. Way cheaper, way more space, awesome styling + fast charging and just 50miles less range at most (A 45°F range test achieved 266mi, I would expext it to go at least 15miles more in summer).

    • @Tonar18
      @Tonar18 8 місяців тому

      Lots to like about EV9 but several deal killers. 1. It should be way cheaper, but dealers are asking $20k plus markup. So until that stops, off the list. 2. Still uses CCS plug, did that already…. no thanks. 3. Range isn’t great for a family hauler. 4. No tax credit offered. I’d look at this in a couple years when all those issues will be addressed, just not today. But I could say that about every EV being offered today. 2025-2026 will be transformative for auto industry IMO

  • @djprojectus
    @djprojectus 2 роки тому +8

    So Tesla Model X has minus 20 miles vs EPA and BMW has plus 65 miles vs EPA ...interesting 🤔

    • @noway6238
      @noway6238 2 роки тому +4

      epa uses 2 cycle test with bmw vs 5 cycle test with Tesla. I don't know why there's 2 separate EPA tests its complete bs

    • @djprojectus
      @djprojectus 2 роки тому +1

      @@noway6238 Yeah,those different test gives some funky results😁

    • @lylestavast7652
      @lylestavast7652 2 роки тому +2

      @@djprojectus What you really want is all the companies to do the 5 test scheme, as more conditions and systems are actually in use when deriving the results.

    • @GadielVaStar
      @GadielVaStar 4 місяці тому

      They be cheating & paying them off.

  • @e-redj
    @e-redj 2 роки тому +3

    It would be better if there was only 1 EPA testing protocol, and not 2 and letting OEMs to reduce the range value of the test.
    All cars should be able to achieve a similar percentage of the EPA highway range on your test. And yes, all OEMs should publish all the EPA values. 🤷‍♂️

  • @ronnyi3714
    @ronnyi3714 2 роки тому +1

    We have the new X/ and it's really the FSD surprisingly of all things that I love the most

  • @PrincessTS01
    @PrincessTS01 2 роки тому +2

    I used to think that an i4 m50 for $85k was high, but these $100K+ cars are ridiculous.

  • @russellthorburn9297
    @russellthorburn9297 2 роки тому

    My Tesla is having an aneurysm at the sight of another Tesla's battery being abused ( run down to approx. 0%). I think people are too obsessed with range. My driving on a road trip would barely change at all even given another 50 miles of range. I'd still stop at the same stations and speed the same amount of time charging (or nearly so).

  • @Smart-Alex
    @Smart-Alex 2 роки тому +1

    Is this like that Kramer Seinfeld episode? Haha

  • @carperdiem8754
    @carperdiem8754 8 місяців тому

    That is crazy. I am lucky to get 340wh/mi in my Plaid X

  • @rogerstarkey5390
    @rogerstarkey5390 2 роки тому +1

    For "properly" you need OBD scanners.

  • @lakemartha
    @lakemartha Рік тому +1

    How much does the wrap affect the range. I would think that the finish on the wrap would affect the aero.

  • @berthogendoorn2133
    @berthogendoorn2133 Рік тому +1

    Kyle, would you say it is much noisier than the current model Y?

  • @ellisreid5605
    @ellisreid5605 Рік тому

    Great review!

  • @Milkastier
    @Milkastier 2 роки тому +5

    Very interesting results. So the iX 50 would go even further than the m60 meaning it could beat the model x by as much as 20-30 miles in range with similar performance numbers. Fully loaded they're also similarly priced. So if you don't want the insane Plaid, which would destroy the M60 in performance, I guess the iX 50 would be the clear choice over the normal Model X then.

    • @AleksanderHoff
      @AleksanderHoff Рік тому +3

      It makes sense - the iX50 has a range estimate of 630km (wltp), and the new X is at 580km (wltp). The iX does not have that much space though, looks like a boat with beaver teeth, currently lacks the charging network that Tesla has (even though it can use the Tesla network in a few countries such as Norway.. blocking chargers for others due to location of charge port), and the software is not even close. New BMW seats are not as good either… imo, but that is subjective, but the iX seats are just way too flat for me.
      I am curious… just as with dirt and grime, will a matte folio affect the range due to more wind resistance?

    • @blueplanet1048
      @blueplanet1048 8 місяців тому

      @@AleksanderHoffit actually could effect the range it’s not as slippery as paint. Plus it adds weight so it might affect it few miles I assume

  • @mikeshaffer6574
    @mikeshaffer6574 9 місяців тому

    EPA range testers need to be watching your video and adjust their ratings accordingly. I hate how EPA ratings are always off on all cars. I think they hyper mile to get the ranges.

  • @Jeddin
    @Jeddin 2 роки тому +5

    Bjorn got 21 miles of driving in Model Y performance after BMS indicated 0% 0 miles in his recent driving to car shutdown series. So the hidden range plus BMS calibration in teslas is hiding a lot.

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 2 роки тому

      As is done in every other car. Interesting are the PSA models, they drive down to 20 miles or so and stop immediately without any warning. I prefer a few miles beyond zero.

  • @pauldbeer
    @pauldbeer 2 роки тому +1

    For noise, please get a sound meter. I'll prefer measurement rather than opinion!!!!

  • @robertdavis6708
    @robertdavis6708 Рік тому +1

    How does the air conditioning feel at 70 mph for 320 miles? Did you use it sparingly or full time ? Thanks in advance.

  • @newscoulomb3705
    @newscoulomb3705 2 роки тому +7

    Unless I'm missing something, the Model X didn't even reach its EPA range, while the iX exceeded its EPA range. To me, that's a bigger takeaway than which went farther. Consumers should know what they're getting up front.
    Also, if it was due to battery degradation, frankly, 10,000 miles just isn't that much. If the Model X lost that much capacity after only 10,000 miles, that's more concerning than anything else.

    • @curtisbme
      @curtisbme 2 роки тому +2

      As he refers to, Tesla's are by far the worst in real world tests vs EPA range. Most other EV's meet or exceed their stated range.

    • @newscoulomb3705
      @newscoulomb3705 2 роки тому +3

      @@curtisbme Yes, I'm aware, and that is because Tesla chooses to use a more optimistic EPA testing cycle than almost ever other automaker. I'm just saying that that is the bigger takeaway than the actual difference in range.
      Also, that amount of degradation is ridiculous. Only having 93 kWh usable after 10,000 miles is a lot of degradation. Even if Tesla is advertising their gross pack capacity, it's lost several percent of capacity in less than a year's worth of driving.

  • @lyfandeth
    @lyfandeth 2 роки тому +2

    No big surprise that there's a hidden buffer on the "fuel". My friend's 85 Accord routinely ran 20+ minutes after the fuel light went on. My own car had a 13+ gallon tank, but even when the gauge said "dead empty!" the most that could be stuffed in the tank was 10 gallons, indicating a 75 mile reserve.
    And then there were older Jaguars, with two separate tanks, like aircraft, so if you picked up bad gas you could simply switch over to the other tank.
    Personally, I'd rather just have accurate fuel/range gauges.

  • @tyranelewis7763
    @tyranelewis7763 Рік тому

    remember the car charges faster when it is completely off. walking away and let charge without any other draw of energy. just a bit of advice

  • @JamesKirk1988
    @JamesKirk1988 2 роки тому +7

    Love your testing and videos, Kyle. Just a thought:
    Kyle left the A/C on while charging on the iX, but not on the Tesla. I'm sure running the compressor hard in the X initially is why your efficiency appeared so high at your 90% SoC update.
    As someone who lives in Florida and has spent nearly 2 years in an Tesla, that initial cranking of the A/C in a hot cabin uses a ton of power. That was probably a 3 to 5 mile difference right there. The initial degradation of Li-Ion batteries compared to the iX probably is another 3 to 9 miles. You also may have been able to limp out another 3-6 miles if you really tried to kill it. So best case, you may get 350 miles out of a Model X at 70MPH. But the average vehicle will not, so your test is a much more realistic sample.
    We all know that real world variables such as: HVAC, Wind, Elevation Change, Road Surface, Car/Battery/Tire condition/type, plays so much into the range you get on a test.
    I do appreciate the work and love watching all these videos. But for those trying to buy a car, don't base your EV choice on how many miles it's rated for, or UA-cam range tests. More important is the actual efficiency (ie Wh/mi) vs usable battery size if you really want to compare two cars apples to apples. But Miles of Range is easier to sell people on, I suppose, even though it's not super helpful. If you want to beat EPA ratings in any EV, cruise at 50MPH with HVAC off and windows closed. I guarantee you'll see about 400 miles in either the Tesla or BMW. But in reality, the car itself is what it comes down to. Things like practically, performance, comfort, style, features, and charging network are all way more important that any minor difference in range. If efficiency or battery size are hugely different, then that's definitely going to make a difference. But two cars with similar efficiency and sized batteries, each within 15% of each other, it's a wash!

    • @updlate4756
      @updlate4756 2 роки тому

      He had the climate on while charging the model X as he mentioned at 5:20 . The initial degradation of the battery depends entirely on Tesla's buffer strategy. It seems they're keeping a larger buffer in the 2022s versus previous model years so it's possible they're hiding some degradation behind the buffer now.
      He also tested the least efficient iX m60 w/ 22" wheels against the most efficient base model X w/ 20" wheels. The iX m60 beat the combined EPA estimate by 65 miles, but the iX m50 with 20" wheels has an EPA rating that's 50 miles higher than the iX m60, so it could go significantly further in these test conditions. It's the same battery, so the base iX m50 is more efficient, just as the efficiency of the base model X w/ 22" wheels or the model X Plaid would worsen.
      True, range isn't that critical, but Tesla has been touted constantly for its range, so it's only fair to show that it no longer has that advantage. Efficiency is good for charging times, but I imagine the differences in road tripping times for most trips will be negligible... which is exactly the point. BMW is matching Tesla in this segment at a much lower price. Customers definitely shouldn't only base their buying decisions on EPA range. Tesla's EPA range seems to underachieve in real world highway testing, whereas other brands seem to overachieve and get better range than advertised. The established luxury brands still believe in under promising and over delivering, whereas Tesla believes in pushing out the very best numbers on paper to convince customers to buy them over other brands, even if those paper numbers are deceiving.
      This test scenario isn't simply about beating EPA estimated range, it's about testing a real world road trip scenario with highway driving that's typically around 70 mph in the US. Driving at 50 mph for 400 miles with the HVAC off isn't a real world test. Hotter temperatures improve aero, but also require more HVAC. I believe the improved aero more than offsets the HVAC use; especially in well insulated vehicles. The ranges he got from these vehicles weren't super realistic since the temperature outside was higher than usual, and he's testing at a higher elevation. Both serving to reduce air resistance. Still, it's fair because he tests all vehicles at this elevation; although varying temperatures has always been an issue when comparing vehicle range tests.
      Sure, vehicles should be considered based on the list you provided. It would have been great had Tesla been compared against other brands on those fronts, instead of most EV publications and social media influencers constantly touting the brand and their vehicles on their EPA range for the past 10 years. Ironically, they've also been criticized a lot lately for their real world highway range not living up to the EPA estimates.
      When it comes to practicality, comfort, style, quality, and features, the other luxury brands are also very strong. Tesla's main advantages have primarily been infotainment and the charging network. For charging, they should be opening up the SC network to other brands in the US within the next year, so it won't be an advantage any longer once that happens. Other charging networks are also starting to step up their game. EA is advertising new charging hardware; which should hopefully improve their performance and uptime as it replaces the old infrastructure. Lucky for them, their stations don't have all that many charging cabinets that need to be replaced. EVGo has recently begun opening new fast chargers that have been getting good reviews thus far. New BEVs sold today may be driven for 10-20 years, so Tesla's charging advantage may only last 1-2 more years, with the other 9-19 years being pretty even amongst brands.
      One major point of comparison you didn't mention is vehicle price. Tesla's offering in this segment is simply priced much higher than most other competitors, including the iX. While Tesla does have some nice features that other brands don't have, and the charging advantage for now, the iX also has some nice features that the Tesla doesn't have. Further, it seems established luxury brands often live up to their luxury prowess better, with things like reduced road noise, better suspension comfort, higher quality materials, better fit and finish. More and more Tesla seems to be taking advantage of its supply advantage while demand is exceeding supply, and while other OEMs have yet to ramp up substantially... but oddly Tesla still has the most expensive vehicle in this segment.

  • @mspeed2441
    @mspeed2441 Рік тому +1

    Super informative. Real world range is critical. Important mention of the iX. Those rascally sandbagging Germans.

  • @tten2787
    @tten2787 2 роки тому +2

    It’s interesting in your videos people are always taking pictures next to the state boarder signs. I live on the MN/WI boarder and I’ve never seen anyone taking pics next to our welcome to WI sign

    • @Wised1000
      @Wised1000 2 роки тому

      I'll post one for you in my EQS🤞

  • @aaronsanders7145
    @aaronsanders7145 Рік тому

    I have a Fisker Karma and I can go like 359k and it’s electric and gas …I can choose anytime…if I run out of electricity I can keep going in gas mode (sport mode) never having to really charge..when in sport mode energy is being put back into the battery..if I run out of gas then I have electric..best of both worlds

  • @Poxenium
    @Poxenium 2 роки тому +7

    I don't think Tesla is playing the range game anymore, just efficiency and charge speed. There will be 500 miles range variants of every model, but not for any significant percentage of the fleet.

    • @officialyasir
      @officialyasir 2 роки тому +9

      How convenient? Once you get beat in a category, just say we are not playing that game anymore...lol

    • @J_Dugs
      @J_Dugs 2 роки тому +6

      They no longer make the fastest charging vehicles or range. The main advantage is the charging network and software.

    • @justinjones6810
      @justinjones6810 2 роки тому +6

      @@J_Dugs within the next five years tesla is going to have to lower the price of thier vehicles because within 5 years they will no longer be the best charging network and they will have to really be priced at what they really should have been from the beginning which is 30 to 40k for a base to 60k to 70k for the top of the line tesla has been overpriced it isnt nothing special and in 5 years reality will set in

    • @Poxenium
      @Poxenium 2 роки тому

      @@J_Dugs it doesn't make sense to say that an EV can charge faster if it doesn't have a proper charging network and has sheet efficiency.

    • @AkaiKA4K
      @AkaiKA4K 2 роки тому

      @@justinjones6810 Tesla does plan to reduce price. Manufacturing cost of a Tesla battery is already 30% lower.
      Yet, they keep increasing price because the demand is there and order backlog is long.
      The margin Tesla make on each car is crazy for the volume they are selling.
      Tesla margin is like 30% profit.
      If FSD work-out, the margin is going to be even bigger.
      So, a lot of margin to reduce the price.
      While other OEMs are starting to produce EVs, they are the least profitable models for them.
      Which is why traditional OEM don't want to sell many EVs.

  • @alfreddorkalam5954
    @alfreddorkalam5954 Рік тому

    It will be great to put these results in a table and post the link in your website. We were having this discussion w my neighbour about TMX new gen vs BMW iX M60 and he would not believe me. Anyways just a thought......

  • @Hesam0000
    @Hesam0000 Рік тому +1

    To make the long story short 27:28

  • @austinstroot9910
    @austinstroot9910 Рік тому

    "Getting real toasty in here..." Bruh, you're wearing a hoodie! otherwise great vid

  • @braaitongs
    @braaitongs Рік тому

    Wow, what wrap does it have ?? Gorgeous

  • @bencrilly209
    @bencrilly209 2 роки тому

    My mx2020 on avg is 285w no rear seat bench and loaded with tools it’s the best service truck ever and I prefer no cabin camera :)

  • @binflydushy
    @binflydushy 2 роки тому +2

    That yoke steering wheel with the gear changer on screen would so annoy me…

  • @selbyjohnson5986
    @selbyjohnson5986 2 роки тому +1

    is that the Tesla made CCS adapter from South Korea or the 3rd party one?

  • @tannerbucky
    @tannerbucky Рік тому

    I thought the efficiency on the Model X would be really horrible at 70mph. This is quite surprising to see how great the efficiency is. I thought it would be like 400 wh/m.

  • @pmkgamingtv
    @pmkgamingtv 2 роки тому +7

    How BMW iX can be so good everything compare Tesla X and still cheaper??

  • @apicharjiratanan4285
    @apicharjiratanan4285 Рік тому

    cant wait for the model X to be released in Thailand :D i want a 7 seater EV

  • @thomasjacques5286
    @thomasjacques5286 6 місяців тому

    So essentially Tesla "banked" 7 kWh from their 100 kWh pack. I read the iX pack is OVER 111 kWh.

  • @tautau5504
    @tautau5504 7 місяців тому

    Man so difficult living in states that are 80mph freeway speed like Nevada, Utah, Wyoming, Nebraska and only go 70. My wife’s new model X will do the speed limit. I’ll stop and supercharge it 😂

  • @TheIceStormof1906
    @TheIceStormof1906 9 місяців тому

    That had carbon fiber interior trim. That’s a PLAID Model X. You said yours was a LR???

  • @anthonyroth1288
    @anthonyroth1288 2 роки тому +1

    Kyle - what software version was the car on? Apparently the last two versions - staring with .6 - have caused an issue on all refresh s and x vehicles that results in a harmonic hum that is audible but not that loud (you may not have noticed it outside as opposed to in a garage), something to do with frequency setting when the connectors are closed. I have no idea what that actually means, but it is said to affect range a bit. So it’s worth understand if this may have been a factor for your test.

  • @e-redj
    @e-redj 2 роки тому +1

    Sorry but it doesn’t sum up. It still looks like Tesla is only showing the energy going to the motors, otherwise the degradation after only 10.000 miles would be too much.
    Either that or Elon is not being quite honest about battery size. You know, he managed to go 100kWh, why should the new model X now have to have a 95kWh?
    A last question, are you really sure about the rear motor being a PM one. The pre-plaid S had the Midel3 rear motor (PM) on the front and a induction motor in the back to get that much power into the available space, that’s why that model S was a FWD on the highway( ECO mode anyone). So it makes me doubt that the’ end changed that rear motor to a new PM one, losing some efficiency.

  • @brandonpeterson40
    @brandonpeterson40 Рік тому

    Good luck actually getting an iX. It's an amazing vehicle but they've only delivered a few thousand in the US. Tesla has the advantage of producing a much higher quantity of BEVs. Also, I think the front end of the iX looks sweet with that self healing grill. People just aren't ready for the futuristic design.

  • @chaborrogp
    @chaborrogp 2 роки тому +3

    gr8t test Kyle!!!, I think I`m going to order the BMW iX , though Tesla is a great car as well

  • @SirDragonClaw
    @SirDragonClaw Рік тому

    I would love see these tests at a more realistic speed of 60mph as well Kyle. Great video though.

    • @cranburydad
      @cranburydad Рік тому

      Why would 60 MPH be more "realistic" than 70 MPH?

    • @tomhui87
      @tomhui87 Рік тому

      How about a more realistic speed of 8*? LOL. The real world range of my XPlaid from 90% down to 10% is only 200 mi. Hope this helps yall set some expectations.

  • @B4kkertjes
    @B4kkertjes 2 роки тому

    Where can I find the promised recap of the Race To Vegas video?

  • @SpottedSharks
    @SpottedSharks 2 роки тому +1

    Great work as always.

  • @mobi7896
    @mobi7896 8 місяців тому

    Something looks off about the front wheels.

  • @srenandersen4563
    @srenandersen4563 20 годин тому

    Isn't the BMW 10kwh more battery??

  • @alex135789
    @alex135789 2 роки тому +1

    5 seater vs 7 seater. Not a fair comparison.

  • @LanceJDanks
    @LanceJDanks Рік тому

    I have steering wheel vibration above 55 mph in my 2023 Tesla X. Had it road forced balanced, still vibration. Took it to tesla service and was told the vibration is within Tesla specifications. Quite a disappointment.

    • @bdtang
      @bdtang Рік тому +1

      Shouldn’t have any vibrations. Picked up a new X Plaid and noticed a little vibration at 75mph on the drive home. Took it in and they ended up having to replace 3 of the tires - these were brand new and only had less than 200 miles on them from the drive home. They chalked it up to defective tires.

  • @arnoldvaz3003
    @arnoldvaz3003 Рік тому

    Hey, why not use the OBD port like Bjorn does to get more info

  • @thefish5861
    @thefish5861 Рік тому

    I don’t care about a little range difference. I'm Tesla and only Tesla from now on.

  • @voltspc9394
    @voltspc9394 2 роки тому

    I wish Tesla let model 3 and Y see voltage and amperage instead of just kW

  • @lesstevens2370
    @lesstevens2370 2 роки тому +3

    How can you wear a Hoodie in 98 degrees 😫 that's 36 Celsius 😝

  • @peters6454
    @peters6454 2 роки тому +3

    I have a model S but I would definitely get the iX over the Model X. You can hear how loud it is compared to the iX in the video. Hard to believe Tesla will be able to keep outselling competitors.

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 2 роки тому

      Not with those ultra high cost luxury vehicles. I would recommend the NIO ES8. Much better than the Model X or BMW iX. The Hongqi is cheaper, faster, has more range, better efficiency but its Software is not on par with Tesla.
      In the Model 3/Y range the others have no really comparable options. There is just no real competition in sight. In Europe we have Kia EV6, Ioniq5, Skoda, VW, Polestar, Nio, Hongqi but they are either much more expensive with the same feature set or simply have 2 years wait time. Mercedes, BMW or Porsche are of course totally out of range of most budgets.

    • @peters6454
      @peters6454 2 роки тому

      @@wolfgangpreier9160 - They aren’t available in the US because they have such terrible Chinese safety standards. Nobody wants that Chinese crap.

  • @supertesla19
    @supertesla19 2 роки тому

    Tesla Flex!

  • @victorhaywood9995
    @victorhaywood9995 2 роки тому

    I'm in my 50s, I would love to buy an EV, but these prices are too high for me and I really would like an SUV EV model.
    I will try to help my boys into one.

  • @rj8u
    @rj8u 2 роки тому +2

    We all have our own category and requirements when it comes to buying an electric car. Mine I always gravitate to SAFETY, CHARGING STATIONS, CHARGING SPEED AND CAR SOFTWARE. All other things are just unnecessary amenities. Tesla model X checked all the boxes.

  • @praveenpatil282
    @praveenpatil282 Рік тому

    Did you have the A/C on the whole time?!

  • @sanderlofthus3220
    @sanderlofthus3220 2 роки тому +1

    wait, is that Tesla flex's model x?

  • @eugeneanisko833
    @eugeneanisko833 2 роки тому

    The lens on the phone appears to be dirty. You can tell by the haze. You need to wipe it clean periodically with a microfiber clothe.

  • @michaelrbodner
    @michaelrbodner 2 роки тому +2

    Commenting as you’re about to leave the charger and head out on the road. I can already tell where this is going and your comments on why you’d get the BMW iX all day over a Model X is the same reason why I sold my Tesla and got the e-tron. Frankly any EV owner with access to home charging (or level 2 charging at work) are covered with any EV. The quality differences between the Audi or BMW over the Tesla make them an absolute no brainer over Tesla.
    Tesla’s road noise issue is miserable.
    Their software isn’t actually the best, because you’re at their mercy. For infotainment I prefer CarPlay over Tesla’s UI/UX.
    It has been a very happy 6 weeks post Tesla ownership!!

    • @MrEboogy2009
      @MrEboogy2009 2 роки тому

      Which e-tron do you have?

    • @michaelrbodner
      @michaelrbodner 2 роки тому +1

      @@MrEboogy2009 I have a 2022 e-tron Premium Plus.

    • @MrEboogy2009
      @MrEboogy2009 2 роки тому

      @@michaelrbodner I was looking at the e-tron. Test drove it and everything. I just was nervous about the range, but for my commute to work it wouldn’t be a problem. What are you averaging in your range?

    • @michaelrbodner
      @michaelrbodner 2 роки тому

      @@MrEboogy2009 first road trip coming up in a few weeks for a real test but my commute is mostly highway and at 75-80 MPH looks like ~235 miles (rated is 222). I charge at home daily so it’s a non-issue. Hoping the road trip is smooth.

  • @gaming4risk811
    @gaming4risk811 Рік тому

    Hi, How would you compare the road noise between the 2020 Model S 21in wheels to this?

  • @meisterkenobicrypto
    @meisterkenobicrypto 2 роки тому +6

    For better tests check Bjorn nyland, in his testing the most efficient bmw gets less range than the old model X long range, you can just search for bmw IX range test Bjorn nyland and check the exel sheet to see the results, he is the most trusted ev tester, he also does noise test, headlights test, range test.... his tests are a lot more consistent, he didn't test the new refresh model X yet (only arrives in Europe in the end of the year) but once it's out he will test it like he does with every ev, he also does 1000 km challenge which is very important, where consumption and charge speed matter a lot.

    • @lubder
      @lubder 2 роки тому +6

      And what was wrong with this test, the result? You are comparing apples and oranges, Björn has tested the iX 50 in winter and the Model x Raven in summer. Otherwise, there are tests from him with the iX 40, but it only has a 76 kWh battery.
      And Björn comes to the same conclusion regarding comfort and noise insulation, headlights etc. The iX is a class above in this respect.

    • @FlorinArjocu
      @FlorinArjocu 2 роки тому +1

      @@lubder Exactly. This is an equally real world usage test. Although, on an European highway legal speed is usually 130 km/h, which is a bit above 80 m/h, that would also be interesting to see.

    • @yvesvandenbroek6055
      @yvesvandenbroek6055 2 роки тому +5

      He did not test the iX 50 in warm ideal conditions (the 40 was better), I guess this test is way more consistent as they were done in almost the same conditions. I had a Model X 2020 on 20 inch wheels and it had worse efficiency / range than my iX 50 on 22! Granted the MX was a performance, but even if I counted 6% difference the long range the iX still had better range and charged faster. The latest MX will charge faster than the iX … but boy I could not stand all the quirks of the Tesla anymore.

    • @meisterkenobicrypto
      @meisterkenobicrypto 2 роки тому

      @@lubder the new one with the matrix led, double glass and noise cancelling might get a better result, but we will see when the video comes out. I think the new model X will also do good in winter thanks to the heat pump, it comes with a smaller battery but seems more efficient.

    • @meisterkenobicrypto
      @meisterkenobicrypto 2 роки тому

      @@yvesvandenbroek6055 As long as you drive an Ev I am happy hahaha. Never tried the ix, I had a 75D model X and got a 100D for a good price and for now I am very happy with it's performance, also where I am from we have the worst public charging network, we only have 50 kw chargers.... But we have a lot of Tesla superchargers (not open to all EVs) so if you want to travel were I am from you really need a Tesla, I also have a Renault zoe and I can't go on a trip with it.

  • @painjammin
    @painjammin Рік тому

    A white sun.... anyone remember the sun being yellow when we were kids??

  • @sebastiankobialka4071
    @sebastiankobialka4071 2 роки тому

    is it more efficient than the model x 100d from 2020?

  • @ARPost-kn2jl
    @ARPost-kn2jl 2 роки тому

    Road noise would be my only reason to move away from Tesla after 9 years, (3 types ofmodel S). I hope they address this finaly soon!!

  • @yuxuan130411
    @yuxuan130411 Рік тому

    3.57 mile per kWh

  • @nevco8774
    @nevco8774 9 місяців тому

    Actually Mercedes-Benz EQS SUV has an even longer range at 70 MPH as this channel proves 375.8 miles, and is an even better place to be vs BMW iX. That is going to be the longest 70 mph range in any EV SUV untill Lucid Gravity comes on the market.

  • @chrisgayle1623
    @chrisgayle1623 2 роки тому

    I wonder how much energy autopilot is using

  • @jameswann4327
    @jameswann4327 4 місяці тому

    Eqs 450 gets 450 on the sedan and 350 on the suv

  • @olemissjim
    @olemissjim 2 роки тому +2

    Great video, but you said “way under EPA” but epa shows 332 you said 331 that’s 1 mile difference.
    Price for the the Model X today is $120,990

    • @djprojectus
      @djprojectus 2 роки тому +4

      7:09 The EPA range on this car is 351 miles....

    • @cturkoanje
      @cturkoanje 2 роки тому

      @@djprojectus Technically 348.

    • @UNLOCKsilo
      @UNLOCKsilo Рік тому

      $80k in the US

  • @Arc_Logic
    @Arc_Logic 2 роки тому +1

    I hear you talking about how the BMW doesn't charge extra for driver assistance features, but aren't they the ones trying to turn heated seats into a subscription service? 😬

  • @lespaulranger
    @lespaulranger 2 роки тому

    I don't think it's 3kwh, it's 4.5% of usable capacity which corresponds roughly to 3kwh, so obviously this will change with degredation

  • @normt430
    @normt430 2 роки тому

    C&D got the Cadillac Lyriq to go 270 miles on 102 kw useable but at faster 75 mph.