Bird 3 -electric scooter-Conversion|1000w 38a -brushless motor controller-
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Good work 👍
😂 home slice well done I will follow up on results within a week
Thank you Friend, today i did it myself and it workt!
thank you so much i enjoyed the video
Very well done 👊i could leRn athing or 2 from your videos,thank you
Is the headlamp switch necessary
el motor soporta los wats? tengo un brid 3, quiero cambiar el controlador por uno de 500w pero el motor dice 400w y 459w pico, no hay problema?
What is the max volts when it's charged also what amps and volts should I charge it to
When you solder the large bypass on the battery, what is that piece of metal you use to connect the two locations?
16 gauge speaker wire
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@@pjscootermods awesome thanks, your videos have been super helpful
Hola querido amigo.espero estés bien. Gracias por tus videos. Tengo una pregunta...lis cables que usas para extensión son de que tamaño?
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Hi i just wondering, is the conversion make a difference with 1000W controller or its fine with smaller one? for example 750W or even 500W? thank you so much
yo, i did everything u did, i rewatched the video like 5 times and make sure everything is ok, the rear wheel is not moving, i make sure all the cables are welded properly. weird thing is the baterry output shows me 35 volts instead of 42? why is that? is the battery my issue or u think i did something wrong?
Struggling to make this thing work. I've bought 3 different controler from the links you provide and they are always different from what you installed. Anyway, I wire everything up as you instructed. Plug everything In and nothing happens. I get a pop and that's it. When I unplug the throttle wires it will do the self study but as soon as I plug throttle back i---NOTHING----! I NEED HELP. HOOK ME UP WITH SOME KNOWLEDGE.
I tried following another one of your videos to convert a bird 3. Did everything exactly as you had but the motor wouldn’t run. I have an extra bird 3 to fool with. If I don’t want to do a conversion and just get it running as is will it run after completing the head wiring that you showed in the beginning of this video?
If your motor - back wheel - is not spinning after you connect your intelligent/self study Wires. well then you have a bad controller on your hands. I assume you have everything connected Motor Wires, Throttle Wires ,including the battery bms bypassed.
If everything is connected and looks right to you. the video is correct.. if nothing is giving a response after connecting your intelligent wires then yes your controller is at fault
Are the hall wires being connected like absolutely nececary?
they are meant to avoid "jolty" starts. That is it. Most bikes will function just fine without them. I tried that in the past and the wheel still spins but I remember it being loud when cranking the throttle.So for a quick fix I say would say yes.these basically the hall sensor that tells the controller how fast and in what direction the motor is spinning, and allow it to accurately set the timing
Is this this same process for the controller with lcd screen
Hey Whts up! I’m about to start conversion and was reading these posts for good info and seen buddy blew his battery up after the 42v conversion, so I had a few questions hopefully you can answer…
1. I need to get a charger for mine (it looks exactly the same as yours) and it charges right at the bottom of the steering pole. Could you direct me which charger to get?
2.does this 42 V conversion blow batteries very often?
3. If for some chance, unfortunately, it does blow the battery How much is a replacement one?
4. Is the mod really worth it? Can you tell me what it actually enhances?
5. Last but not least I saw someone ask about putting a Kill-switch in the Main is it worth it? If so, could you possibly tell me where to insert it?
Thank you for all your help and answering questions and helping everybody get their 🦅 up and running, I’m down at the Jersey shore and they don’t have 🦅 around here and I don’t feel like driving back up to Newark to grab another.
Thank you for your time and i’m sorry for the book! and helping everybody with your 🦅 conversion vids ✌🏻
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2. Lol not at all, don’t know what caused their battery to blow up. They obviously did something wrong! I’ve never had a battery pack blow up personally, every scooter I’ve sold to a customer never stated they I had an issue with a battery catching fire/exploding. So no that’s not often.
3.the battery packs are pretty expensive themselves, $300/$530 . But you might possibly find a replacement on eBay. If not I would recommend you joining my discord, once inside my discord tap into the general forum and simply state that you’re looking for a replacement battery, somebody there will reply back , it’s basically a community forum that I created, anything that has to do with scooters is in this forum, pictures/videos etc. i’m sure you can find a very good deal on a battery there ASAP
4. Are you talking about the Shunt mod? I don’t do that anymore, instead go with a higher amp controller.
5.amzn.to/44muamH 👈 this controller should do just right, suitable for both bird 2&3 . If you choose this kit well then there would be no purpose in adding a switch, so scratch off the switch . On this display kit Your able to power your scooter on and off up top. So there is no needing a switch.
My bad bro I just hit that last link I saw that I missed and I’ll go with that set up thank you. Can you just please direct me to that light switch you want and I promise I’ll leave you alone until the conversions done unless I run into an issue! Lol thank you again for being patient and helping everybody out. 🙏🏻/NJ
My bird battery explode because of this 42v trick at B+. Thanks
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He says in the video p+ not b+ if that makes a difference
@@samlane1721 lol it's comedy
That won't cause it the battery was already about to go off.
@@northerncaliking1772 it's likely he did the wrong bypass
Can u please help me out Wich is the brushless motor that you used in the video for a 38a 36v 1000w I'm just trying to find one that's very similar with your video
It’s in This video link in description. It’s the 4th link down. It’s the exact controller I used
This is a great video,very to the point and direct. Doing everything from top to bottom in order makes sense, reusing those clip connectors is really smart .. you can tell from your previous videos you've gotten this conversion down to a science . I just got my converted model three working a few weeks ago most of the conversion I did was based on your video with the twist throttle. I didn't order a Twist throttle though I've just got a little button that I screwed onto the original throttle. I didn't have the money for extra parts so it's only got full speed and off LOL. So far everything works great tho lol.
I gotta ask tho,
16:05 directly under your wrist is that a bottle of piss XD
Yooo thanks my guy ! And lol it does look like pee but no it’s green tea citrus.
what size of screws did you replace the 7 sided screw ones with? what diameter
I never replace them , I just use the remaining 6T 45 screws that hold it together. But I’m sure if you have some T 25 screws laying around they would work perfectly as replacements
@@pjscootermods just got all my screws out im thinking of the easiest place for some kind of ignition switch thanks for the vids
Do you have to add a controller? Or can I go really cheap and use the factory bird 3 controller? Thanks in advance for helping me.
Yeah bro Best bet is finding a cheap controller maybe through eBay, but honestly for about 25 to 30 bucks on Amazon you can grab you a Controller with a Display kit. If there is a way of using the original controller I haven’t found out how to do it 🤷♂️
Thanks bro. Just found a scooter on the side of the highway. Gonna give it a try.
I have no display I only have a 500w 48 v controller no display is that going to screw shizz up?
I have a bird 3 and some spare parts from my 2000w 52v ebike kit since the motor died. Can a single bird 3 motor handle around 1,700w or should i buy a motor for it?
You should buy a motor that is suitable for the power you are trying to supply it. But either way it’ll still work you would just be pushing it past its limits so the motor to the bird scooter is going to get hot faster. If it gets too hot the Hall effect sensor inside the motor will go out.
If you use the grey wire in the controller to provide 5V, do you still need the resistor for the headlight? And if I put in a kill switch at the back main power do I need a head light switch?
Finally why do we bridge K2 to ground? I have a 500 watt controller.
Thank for this contribution to the community.
The resistor is so that it can manage the resistance,too heavy current will blow out your headlight..
If you’re adding a kill switch to the main power supply then no you don’t need to add a switch for your headlight. Everything will turn on and off together with the main power switch you plan on adding..
Unless you choose to add a switch for your headlight ! That would allow you to control it independently..
K2 to ground leaves you in third gear.
You bypass 1st and 2nd gear
If you don’t do the bypass well then you just stay in regular mode
After you finished up top will it turn on and run as is?
I believe I added A relay switch to turn that scooter on/off. I stopped making scooters without switches.. without a switch to cut the battery off from your power your battery will still continue to slowly drain.. i’ve had maybe two or three scooters brought back to me for that reason.. learn from your mistakes
Understood thanks. Basically what I’m wondering is once you clip the head wires removing the computer and reconnect the with the kill switch the scooter will run in stock condition without further modifications? I want to keep it simple and just get a scooter up n running to give to my girls daughter. Appreciate your time
You think you can make a video about spin scooters?
I don’t have a spin scooter
Hey bro you have a link for the controller
Hi I have one of these it's a 2 or 3 I believe I was woundering is the rear back wheel we're the motor to scooter is it's missing the cover and battery and cintroller
Yup the back tire is ur motor that’s what drives the scooter. Sounds like you will be needing a motor and a battery pack. Not to much as the controller since it’s useless . But besides that you have yourself a scooter
@@pjscootermods ty very much fr info I'm sure yr busy on Sunday One more .?I got the motor in my rear tire you said all I need is a battery and motor the motors still on it with chain around tire .. do I need a controller 🪔💳😃wene changing it over to couple ryobi lithium batteries 18 volt or should it have 2 18 volt batteries and connecting series ?what do you think too much battery 0r use 1 ryobi 18 volt battery or use 2 -18 volt ryobi lithium drill batteries .?
Do you really notice a difference going with a 1000w controller over a 500w? I live in an area with lots of hills and 225lbs, yet don't have a lot of money.
Walk to loose weight
Have you tried making a all wheel drive bird scooter I have 2 bird scooters and I removed the rear motor on one of the scooters but I’m having fitment problems because of fork in the front idk if you’ve ever attempted something like this???
I’m still trying to figure that one out .. need a find a motor that sits in that fork.
@@pjscootermods me and a friend just made a lime scooter work. We took the rear wheel from the bird and put it in the front of the lime with a little fabrication and made the lime scooter AWD, 2 controllers/2 motors/1 battery and its fast
@@billythakid6661 Which model are you talking about ?
@@pjscootermods the gen 4 lime with the battery on the frame that you can remove and is accessible
I have a question i jave a bird 3 and i have a 500w 48v controller is this video wired the same as i would? I been trying to get this poppin for like 2 weeks im tired and never done this before and wanna just quit. But my damn inself wont let me quit so i jave to get this done its becoming a burdon.
Every controller wires up the same way pretty much. Just be sure your controller is brushless and not brushed . Everything Wires up the same way
All you need to do is locate your
Motor Wires
Hall sensor wires
Throttle Wires
And finally your power supply !
That’s pretty much all you need to connect, everything else on the controller is for other functions such as Electric Breaking ,cruise control, alarm ,hi brake ,low brake ,etc
Got 2mode controller v48 10000w does work with bird baterry
No it needs to be 36v controller
@@pjscootermods o way just got 48 v battery
@@pjscootermods just got brother 72v 1500w 75 k
Do you have a link to a motor controller that would fit without cutting?
You can always duct tape it to the top
@@joshuaraley686top? u mean where u stand?
@@noelsalonen3550 where it curves in the back
How about what gauge of wire to use to go to the back of the bird?
Use the original wires and the original connecter to the Backlight
@@pjscootermods but I want to know the gauge of the cable that comes out of the brown box please
Brushless motor Contrôleur de Moteur - E-Bike Scooter Brushless Hub Motor Controller Accessoire de vélo électrique 24V 36V 350W
Pero tú usas uno de 500w?
no, en este video usé un controlador sin escobillas de 1000W en un pájaro -3 pero 500w funcionará perfectamente.
I got it off on of your videos I'm converting a bird 3
What part do need help at
@@pjscootermods where do you get the throttle
yo whats the gray box in the stem after the gps?
Gray box ?
@@pjscootermods its very slim it sits in the part of the neck that has the white led strip when i was trying to feed wires threw, it blocked me and only left room for the brakelines nothing else so i ended up breaking it and pulling it out
Why do you need to bypass the bms?
The battery is locked, you get no voltage out of the battery pack if you don’t bypass. Without the bypass you get 0 volts.
After the bypass you get your battery percentage back.
Yo when i pluged it in it sparked, do u think it was because i suck at soldering? Lol
The brushless moter i used was
dc36v , 15amps,,,,
Oorrr do u think it sparked because i didnt use the same connector from the positive and negative, and just showed the wires in instead?
@@greyfox4016 from what ive seen when you first plug the scooter power together sometimes it makes a little pop. but i would be careful if your battery is sparking though that sounds like a fire hazard. does the motor run?
3:03 Bro U need a miimum 90 Ohm resitor LED Specs 3,2V 0,02 A 5V - 3,2 = 1,8 V ; 1,8V ÷ 0,02A = 90 Ohm
He boss quick question. Put this new controller in and at full throttle it shuts down the scooter. So I have to turn it off ( reset) then turn it on to get it working again. Any idea what’s going on?
depends Really ! What’s the amperage draw on the controller ? Did u modify the shunt ? To heavy of a shunt mod could definitely cause that issue..
Or it could just be a flat out controller issue!
Iv had a few controllers act up and do the same thing if I try taking off too fast on the scooter The controller will shut down/reset really quick. It’s strange but I’ve had it happen..
I do the same process on all of my scooters , not all of my scooters have the unexplained cut off issue!! So it’s definitely a controller issue.
Ok the shunt mod is what exactly. First one so still learning the controler mods. Thank man. This thing when it goes for the few seconds flies! Way quick!😊
What if after you unplug it doesn’t want to go
Sounds like a connection issue if it worked before you charged it and now it doesn’t go .
@@pjscootermods no so I plug in the hall wire the big black one and then did the the thing to make it go forward and now it won’t work I made sure that the wires are all connected and re did them idk
@@pjscootermods or if you have a instagram I can send you a video
@@pjscootermods update I tested all the wires and all them are reading so ima re wach the vied and make sure I didn’t miss anything
There's a blue wire in my Throttle I think there's no bundle of just red black yellow
Why is my scooter not charging after the conversion
Quick question how did you remove the The 7 pin Security screw
Strip it out slightly and hammer a square bit that is close to the size
Is battery 48v?got 48v controller
Battery is 36v
Controller needs to say 36/48v
Can uead 48v controller with 36v batteries
@@suenhiigb6597 nope 👎
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Is this what needs to be done to ride a bird scooter for free?
yes. that point u own it
whats the discord?
hey come check out Discord with me discord.gg/q6TyDDkv
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Most of the controllers you buy from Amazon are crap 1-10 maybe good it sucks to do all that work for cheap shitty solder job on a pcb.
I agree ! Yes they are cheap and made from China , for best results I will go with reading reviews and checking out star ratings on how they performed. I recently returned 2 72 V universal brushless controllers. They both had very bad unexplained Power cut off situation.
Hey big dog ? If I pay you to do my bird 3 will u
Tienes instagram? WhatsApp?
Only discord
@@pjscootermods no entendí
I have followed all directions and motor acts funny when I plug in the learn wires. It hesitates back and forth about an inch then nothing. Nothing happens if I unplug and try throttle nor leaving plugged in. It won't actually run. Any idea what I did wrong? I tested all my wiring with a continuity tester and everything is making contact back to the board. Any help would be appreciated. I can send a video if you need it.
You might be working with a faulty controller ! The back motor should spin automatically after connecting the intelligent wires.my 72 v Bird scooter had an issue with the Hall effect sensor inside the motor. I replaced the module, and the motor started working again! Only issue is I have the same problems you have now. I would connect my intelligent wires, and my motor would only vibrate. what I did was swapped out the 3 motor phase wires. Normally it’s color with color. But what I did to fix it was swapped my green to blue and yellow to green. And that’s what fix my issue . But that’s not always the case . Even if you had a bad throttle once you connect the intelligent wires, your back motor will spin regardless. Try swapping the 3 motor phase wires lmk what happens !
@@pjscootermods what's the most power you've put to one of these bird 3 motors without it crapping out on you? I got it running but want to go faster. Lol.
@@pjscootermodsit was the phase wires. The yellow blue and green were different on the motor. I had to cross them. I forgot which