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Cool! That's the comparison I've been waiting for. I bought the GH6 last year and felt a bit cheated when S5II came out with the new autofocus. Apart from that, the image quality of the GH6 is fantastic.
GH6 II might happen, same sensor but phase detect seeing they did that with S5 II which is essentially very much same body with a few modifications to fit an internal fan and the exact same sensor but with phase detect.
Nice to see this PC mad genius here ! I'm not going to have random ducks on my screen from this reply am I ? Please find a way to collab with Kasey and MC for a CC rig upgrade. I'm pretty sure he's still on early socket 775, just nothing wireless please, Kasey's like a spider living in his web of wires and he's comfortable there
The Lumix S Series gives creators a competitive alternative to over-priced brands especially now that the company is finally tackling the auto-focus issue. This company listens to its customers and is in touch with reality. Imagine a camera with the best IBiS, best color science, and an up-and-coming phase-detect AF? That's a trifecta of a gem!
@@randomoneforstuff3696 100% this. I have the S1, S5, and S5ii. And the color on the S5ii is drastically different and its shocking how little people talk about it. I find that adjusting the tint in the white balance by 2-4 on red and 2-4 on blue helps get rid of the new greenish tint.
@@DrWNoLs I've been looking at UA-cam reviewers' footage and wondering how almost none of them noticed it. I'm curious if the color shift only applies with V Log and Panasonic's Rec.709 conversion lut, or if it also affects the standard and natural picture profiles -- the ones I usually shoot with. (mainly on the original S5)
@@randomoneforstuff3696 I can tell you for certain that it impacts all of them, unfortunately. I was actually comparing that yesterday, and the tint is definitely there. It's still worth getting imo, because the white balance tint shift really does work quite well and gets standard and natural close. But you have to work around it and cant just mindlessly set it like the OG S5.
@@DrWNoLs Thanks for the information. The tint actually reminds me a bit of my old Lumix ZS100. That point and shoot camera's color science has always had a weird green tint on skin tones. Also, do you have any idea how to remove sensor dust from a pocket (non-interchangeable lens) camera? There seems to be a really apparent dust spot when at 250mm and f8.
🤣You always crack me up! Thanks for keeping it light, and still keeping it informative. I like the S5 II, but it's out of my price range. I may look into a used gh6, but currently looking at trading in a e-m5 ii and an e-m5 iii with 14-150 II kit lenses for a used e-m1 iii with a 12-100 pro IS. I'll probably end up getting that if I don't find a better deal.
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Thanks for continuing to make these comparisons with the S5ii, instead of just a one and done review. Appreciate you using the camera outside. The animal commentary was great 😆
Pretty much sums up the current situation. Perfect camera lies between GH6 and S5II. I hope there will be a GH6S or GH7, because I want to keep the less expensive and light and compact MFT glass. But also a S6 will be thrilling obviously.
Great Video. Thank you. Switching from Canon to Pana Lumix S5 II and 2 bodies, would you recommend 2x S5 II and also with Sigma 60-600mm for Tele or 1x S5II and 1x GH6 with 100-400mm as Tele and for video and photo?
Damn that black squirrel footage from the Pan S5ii looked like you had the cinema in your hands, the colours were moody and sharp. Love your stuff Kasey keep up the good work
Manual focus becomes second nature the more you do it. Often, it's faster to focus manually than to adjust autofocus settings. Therefore, I have to say that GH6 remains the first choice until Panasonic ups the specs on their phase detect cameras. That might be a while for them to catch up.
Camera industry is a scam. You will never get a camera that is perfect with it all. That would put the rest out of business and they don’t do that to eachother. They work together
There is no one perfect camera suitable for everyone, photographers / videographers have different needs. The idea that camera companies are working together and being upset about the wealth of technological marvels and tack sharp optics available in 2023 is ridiculous.
What nonsense. Just like exposure is always a compromise within the exposure triangle, camera features must always be a compromise between parameters. It means that different cameras can be perfect for different needs, and not good for others. For my needs the G9 is the perfect camera. It is the best camera I have ever used. But for your needs there will be a different camera that is ideal for your needs. The problem is too many people think that a single camera should do everything. That is impossible, and always will be impossible. The photographers who are happy with their cameras are the ones who understand their own vision and photographic needs. Those photographers are then able to find the camera that is perfect for them.
Panasonic S5II impressing again. As for your perfect camera (and possibly the perfect camera for those not needing high resolution), I'm thinking maybe an S1II or perhaps S1HII. 24 MP stacked sensor (same one in the A9II), ultra competitive price point of £3800/$3800. We know Panasonic won't skimp on video features and the stacked sensor should be able to support 4K120p and perhaps even 6K60P neither with crop. New PDAF but refined, low light AF refined, the GH6 ultra articulated screen and Pannyboy VLOG for those sweet sweet colours with the rec 709 LUT. A camera like that might be the new UA-camrs choice and would probably be the best camera on offer at that price point........till Sony come out with an A9III with a 33 MP stacked sensor with like a 1/500s readout speed lol.
nice comparison and great work! Thanks ! The gh6 looks interesting. My personality choice is the s5 mark 2 . If you need more frames in slowmo , just use optical flow and you get it up to 20 -30 % without loss of (much) quality. Also you have awesome low light performance in Full Frame and the nice autofocus on Board :) With other Words : the s5m2 Problems you can solve with small tricks . If you dont shot on low light and use manual focus , save the Money and take the gh6. Both are very great Cameras!
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My name is Damian and I'm a Panasonic fannyboy, I have dabbled in other eco-systems with limited success. Personally, the future is Panasonic for features value for money and would upgrade to Panasonic S5 II for the low light magic and keep all micro 4/3 lenses for a future 4/3 body with DPAF. Camera body's die and are reborn but light through a good lens is forever
Kacey, you can actually get a nice slo-mo boost with optical flow in post on AE or Premiere. You can easily double the frame rate (or make it twice slower) without any glitches. I think you can turn 120 in 240 with great results. There is no good fix in post for a pulsing hunting focus or a low light tiny sensor stravaganza.
Funny video. Heads up for the "AF Bros", when going above 30P and HDMI out (monitor) you'll enter AF-C DFD mode, lose subject tracking, and shift off PDAF This is cited by Gerald Undone, and confirmed by Panasonic. It will likely be updated later given there aren't any sensor read limitations.
@@bystronphotovideo I am assuming anything above 30P. This also was recently confirmed in groups for lower resolutions as well (FHD 1080 50P switches to DFD).
I defy any camera - Sony, Canon or Nikon - to focus in the middle of the branches, and keep it still, a bird or some other animal. At the moment the only flaw of the 5s II or IIx is the 6k (full sensor recording) at 30p. We'll probably have to wait for the S1 II or IIx which has a more powerful engine to get 6K at 60p and maybe even decent slow motion.
I think Sony will do it easily. I started from a7c and now a7iv. I have focused my a7c at even harder situations and at night during my night street photography excursions.
@@leow5632 I agree that Sony has the best autofocus technology, but would have a hard time tracking a bird through dense tree branches. Unless you photograph a koala in manual focus. This is the gist of my thinking: at the moment there is no camera that can do birdwhatching in the thick bush. Let alone Panasonic....The IA technology undertaken by Sony is the way forward in the future. Even I, in Rome, enjoy myself at night, with all the precautions and it's better to have a friend nearby, to do street photography with Panasonic and Fuji sometimes in manual focus to get around the obstacle of the dark but if you want to seize the moment fleeing .... it is better that I leave it alone.
The GH-6 lost your face three times during the intro. We have our answer. The R5's animal eye AF works all over the frame, including 4K/120. But that slo-mo is pixel binned and soft. The S5 II's AF is very sharp but restricted to the central area, so no ruling of thirds, doesn't work at HD/120, and 4K/60 is cropped. The GH-6 has great image quality but the AF hunts like Elmer Fudd. The A7S III has no video animal AF at all. The search for perfection continues. Please test the R6 II. It supposedly has upgraded AF along with HD/180.
I will keep my OM1 and GH6 and MFT lenses and will sell my Nikon. I will buy the S5ii and use it like a B Camera for low like situations for video work and occasional photography.
Mate, what can we say? Comedy and cameras! Love it!! I have the s5 and gh5 and not sure which way to go…maybe wait until next release? Anyway will look forward to your next video 😂
Question for the next Q&A: Could the S5ii become you're new wildlife camera? What are the pros and cons? You seems to enjoy it quite a lot and the color looks nicer than the A7siii
With v log, the S5 colours can be almost anything you want, and the S5 has better dynamic range, leading to smoother highlight roll off, more detail in shadows and highlights. GH6 is great, but S5 is really juicy.
That is a great improvement. They also take your ancient slr or mirrorless for 300 euro at the moment. What is funny is how expensive fujifilm h2s looks now that panasonic is making this improvement in autofocus precision. The s5iix will be cheaper than the h2s and offer better image quality, better low light, better autofocus, good integrated cooling, and primes with motors and optics designed for video autofocus.
Both cameras have stunning picture quality , the af also is not so bad in the gh6 if they add phase detect gh6 sales will go up dramatically and the s5 will sell like fresh bread anyway
Wonder if Panasonic does not already have phase detection AF in their MFT cameras. Remember Olympus? They were able to add it to a pretty old camera via FW update. And blackmagic revealed that their cameras are recording gyro data. They kept it a secret until a few months ago. Cripple Hammer confirmed.
I find it hard to believe they won't add Phase Detect to the next GH cameras at the very least. Really hoping the reason there has been no news of another G9, is because they've been secretly working on Phase Detect in the next version. Adding PD focus through a firmware update would be great but probably wishful thinking. We'll see.
The image quality sharpness and color science of the GH6 blew the S5II away in every shot. I don't know if it was down to the leica glass you were using which i know does make a huge difference but if it was the camera, there ain't no autofocus in the world good enough for that tradeoff in sheer je ne sais quoi.
Kasey. (At 7:45 in the video). A crop factor of 1.22 is not a 22 % removal of length on the sensor (going from full size to cropped size). It is (1.0 - (1/1.22)) = 1.0 - 0.8197 = 0.18 = 18 % removal of length on the sensor. You have to know what is the bases for the percentage calculations.
@@cameraconspiracies Thanks for the response, Kasey. Yes, that's what you said. I believe that the correct statement that you should have said instead was: "The image crops in 1.22x. In other words 18%". (Meaning that the crop factor (big divided by small) is 1.22, and when cropping it crops away 18% (linearly) from the big one). You may strongly disagree, but consider what is the basis for the percentage calculation. For sensor crop factors the base is always the smallest sensor. But for percentage calculations the base is the one that you start from. In this case the bigger sensor. As another example (or analogy), let's assume that you talked about a larger crop, from full frame to m4/3, which is approximately crop factor = 2. Then (potentially your) incorrect statement would have been: "The image crops in 2.0x. In other words 100%." To crop away 100% (remove everything) is clearly not correct. Do you see how I arrived at this? Let's try with crop factor 1.99 instead of 2, then it's easier: "The image crops in 1.99x. In other words 99%." Cropping away 99% is quite drastic for m4/3. It's a loser format but not to such degree. (Sorry for trying 'loser' humor; you do it so much better!) The fact (which we all know, of course) is that a crop factor of 2 removes (crops away) 50% of the length of the bigger sensor, not 100% when going from the bigger to the smaller. The math is: (1.0 - (1/2.0)) = 1.0 - 0.5 = 0.5 = 50%. However, I know that Camera conspiracies is a comedy / humor channel (a very good one), and nobody expects mathematical accuracy. I have followed this channel for some years and it's my main go-to channel on youtube!
@@cameraconspiracies Kasey, Thanks for letting me know. (Let me also correct myself, I wrote "For sensor crop factors the base is always the smallest sensor." The usual setup (as we all know) is to put the FF sensor in the numerator and analyzed sensor in the denominator.) Let me change topic. Your "board room meetings" are Gold! I wish there was an index to make it easy to find them to see and enjoy them again. Does it exist, or how could such gift to the community come into being?
wait. I predict Panny boy will give us a gh6II, S1HII, maybe even a g9II with PDAF. but agreed, 6 is crippled, 5II is crippled in some areas. but its still big progress. Marty Sender You Tube
It sounds like the S5 II was struggling to see the squirrel when it was sitting still because it just looked like a black blob, but it knew it was an animal when it started moving and then the animal tracking kicked in.
I see your tracking skills are improving. Also your in-studio footage is fantastic! Whatever is that combination lock it in!!! Well both cameras are great. Can’t go wrong with either but best to make a decision based on the lenses. Keep up the good work!
I’m generally with you wrt lenses being high priority. But I don’t generally rush out and buy the latest and greatest upon release. In this case, I’d wait a year and see what the lens situation is like for the S5 II. The improved autofocus is very compelling (almost a game changer) but I’m not going to assume the lenses I want/need will be there. ATM, I’m uncommitted to any system. Last year I financed a new Mac purchase with my credit card-right before interest rates went up 😢. (Variable rate cards suck when rates go up.) It’s going to be a while before that debt is paid down and I can even think about buying a new system.
This video reveals what I have been seeing. The GH6 is still an overall better filmmaker camera than the S5 II. The GH6 compliments my S1H very well (now that I am better at getting the colors to match). I commend Panasonic's efforts with the S5 II and I am very hopeful it will bring in more users to the ecosystem, but the S5 II nor S5 II X are a replacement for my S1H. Panasonic, if you are reading this (and I assume you are), please just give us 4K 120, VND, SSD Recording and a bigger battery...plus eliminate those damn crops.
@Big Cook The S1H has timecode, better hi-res multi-angle screen, more RAW options, larger battery, tally lights, more buttons. I can keep going. The S1H was developed for actual video/film making. The S5IIX is going to be good but very few S1H filmmakers are going to give up on the S1H for just PD-AF.
Nice conversation with the horse by the way.. haha Seriously though great video I have a S1 and I love it and always believe that panasonic is superior in camera quality. I just wish they had more of stabilization like the smooth go pro 11 I have. Keep the good videos coming for 2023!
Please please please can you check the mount free play? My S5 has some rotational free play with all my lenses. When I zoom the lens rotate like half a mm and clicks. It is so increadibly annoying and I am wondering if this issue is persistent or my cameras is screwed. Thanks a lot! 🙏
I own GH5 GH6 and S5ii. Got a great deal to straight swap my GH6 to s5 + sigma 85mm f1.4. A cam is S5ii + Lumix S pro 28-70 B cam S5 + sigma 85mm C cam GH5 + speedbooster 18-35mm What do you think?
Those two T-shirts look remarkably different shades of green despite being two recent cameras from the same company. They are both pleasant greens, but clearly different. The orange shirt he sometimes wears also looks different depending on camera brand. I wish he would tell us which colour shirt is more correct to real life after he reviewed his footage, that would be helpful.
My two cents as a longtime LUMIX user. I like the gh6 a lot but that thing struggles over 1600 ISO. The low light plus the PDAF on the S5ii allows me to not care about 4k120 as much. GH6 has everything and more on the S5ii except FF, PDAF and low light. They match up nice!
We all have different standards. I think the gh6 footage looks fantastic all the way up to iso 8000. I even find 12800 to look acceptable. That's enough for me to deal with any lighting conditions.
the lackluster autofocus on the gh6 kinda sucked considering i came from a canon dual pixel camera... but it still works well enough and the most important part is that its there if i need it. what sold me most though is that i already own a lot of crop sensor glass from that previous canon cam, and the gh6 was cheaper. throw a good speedbooster on it and its really no different from a full frame camera as far as im concerned
This summer I bought a G9 as it was $1000. off of the mslp. I like the camera, but I also realize that Panasonic is coming out with a replacement otherwise they wouldn't have offered such a discount. If it has phase detect af then my G9 will be a beater and will be my second string camera and I am ok with that.
Nah it’s been on that discount for a looooong time. Enjoy the G9, it’ll be a good training if you ever choose to upgrade! I loved that camera but now I’m an S5 user.
@@shootthechit we find the G9 autofocus to be fine as long as light is decent. In video talking head stuff never/rarely have an issue on CAF. Too much contrast or low light it struggles, but many crop sensors will too. Check out Marlene Hielema’s channel on using a g9.
@@shootthechit good point and not its strength for sure, though it can work ok in most circumstances. Marlene’s videos largely just show how well with experience. I noted a few videos out there on how to make Sony autofocus work well too. Our Sony’s AF is darn close to perfect, but it’s IBIS is OK at best, works though you just can’t push it. Likely could say the same for G9 AF in video; you can’t push it. I don’t think it works well if much movement, maybe a bit better than a GH5. Marlene seems to make it work though for skateboarding too, but small clips. If you are a photographer pretty much perfect. For solo video, my preference would be definitely (!) be Sony or Canon, though you can get by. That said, maybe a new Panny now with Phase detect and contrast!
@@thatsreallyamoon it's likely been on discount for such a long time because Panasonic probably has a ton of them to clear out, but we'll see what happens. They are likely not going to launch the updated full frame and updated micro four thirds at the same time.
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S5 II vs R6 II please.
Cant wait for the GHRS6M2Z9
I'm holding out for S1HH
I heard a rumour it was going to be called the SH1T (for two)
C(K)asey, what about Blackmagic URSA Mini Pro - did you've tested such a black and magic monster in your squirrel footage?
Cool! That's the comparison I've been waiting for.
I bought the GH6 last year and felt a bit cheated when S5II came out with the new autofocus.
Apart from that, the image quality of the GH6 is fantastic.
I feel kinda similar although I do really enjoy tons about the gh6 and the lenses I have for the MFT so im still grateful overall.
GH6 II might happen, same sensor but phase detect seeing they did that with S5 II which is essentially very much same body with a few modifications to fit an internal fan and the exact same sensor but with phase detect.
I bought a BMPCC6K a week before the BMPCC6K PRO got announce
same!
@@AliShev shit happenz, right? 😀
I hate to say I told you so, but I always knew that Panasonic was what you truly needed
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Please find a way to collab with Kasey and MC for a CC rig upgrade. I'm pretty sure he's still on early socket 775,
just nothing wireless please, Kasey's like a spider living in his web of wires and he's comfortable there
Timing (or lack thereof) is everything, unfortunately.
The Lumix S Series gives creators a competitive alternative to over-priced brands especially now that the company is finally tackling the auto-focus issue. This company listens to its customers and is in touch with reality. Imagine a camera with the best IBiS, best color science, and an up-and-coming phase-detect AF? That's a trifecta of a gem!
It seems that Panasonic has (for the first time) messed up their color science with the new S5ii sensor.
@@randomoneforstuff3696 100% this. I have the S1, S5, and S5ii. And the color on the S5ii is drastically different and its shocking how little people talk about it. I find that adjusting the tint in the white balance by 2-4 on red and 2-4 on blue helps get rid of the new greenish tint.
@@DrWNoLs I've been looking at UA-cam reviewers' footage and wondering how almost none of them noticed it.
I'm curious if the color shift only applies with V Log and Panasonic's Rec.709 conversion lut, or if it also affects the standard and natural picture profiles -- the ones I usually shoot with. (mainly on the original S5)
@@randomoneforstuff3696 I can tell you for certain that it impacts all of them, unfortunately. I was actually comparing that yesterday, and the tint is definitely there. It's still worth getting imo, because the white balance tint shift really does work quite well and gets standard and natural close. But you have to work around it and cant just mindlessly set it like the OG S5.
@@DrWNoLs Thanks for the information. The tint actually reminds me a bit of my old Lumix ZS100. That point and shoot camera's color science has always had a weird green tint on skin tones.
Also, do you have any idea how to remove sensor dust from a pocket (non-interchangeable lens) camera? There seems to be a really apparent dust spot when at 250mm and f8.
I came here genuinely looking for a camera comparison for a future purchase but immediately subbed after that intro. 😂
The swan to goat pan was unforgettable.
Iconic
Some of the S5 II 4k shots look beautiful and the colors are so nice!
I NEED to know what profile or grading he used. It's hot.
Lol that's what we have been using since gh5s while you guys were on crappy 8 bit footage 🤣😜
@@agenericaccount3935gotta be vlog, only way to get so much dynamic range
yes, nice monochrome brown camera.
@@AABB-px8lc I love the brown of the cow at 15:52
Really enjoyed this video. Such a natural and hilarious presentation of your ideas. Much appreciated.
dude that was hands down one of the most entertaining camera reviews I've ever seen. SWAN TO GOAT IS FOREVER
🤣You always crack me up! Thanks for keeping it light, and still keeping it informative. I like the S5 II, but it's out of my price range. I may look into a used gh6, but currently looking at trading in a e-m5 ii and an e-m5 iii with 14-150 II kit lenses for a used e-m1 iii with a 12-100 pro IS. I'll probably end up getting that if I don't find a better deal.
Love your movies - excellent production, direction, score, heart-warming stories, and your videography will Oscar recognition.
If you need any actors or extras for your next feature - I've some chickens, and am willing to mail a few to Canada.
I can’t get over the Pany colours. This is the greatest footage you’ve ever taken. Looks like stock footage, lol
Chewin' the cud!!! Dog wipeouts and goose to goat pans were glorious, too.
Thanks for continuing to make these comparisons with the S5ii, instead of just a one and done review. Appreciate you using the camera outside.
The animal commentary was great 😆
The S5II is keeping focus while zooming in / out. That is honestly blowing me away.
All that footage looked spot on. The GEESE. Really smitten with Panasonic, and circling the financial decision drain slowly but surely.
Pretty much sums up the current situation. Perfect camera lies between GH6 and S5II. I hope there will be a GH6S or GH7, because I want to keep the less expensive and light and compact MFT glass. But also a S6 will be thrilling obviously.
The horse being the grown up in focus pony of hope was just the right touch
13:28 “it hissed at me” bahahaha that was gold!
Came to comment this 😂😂😂😂
Great Video. Thank you.
Switching from Canon to Pana Lumix S5 II and 2 bodies, would you recommend 2x S5 II and also with Sigma 60-600mm for Tele or 1x S5II and 1x GH6 with 100-400mm as Tele and for video and photo?
The slow mo shot of the Horse swingin’ heavy was classic
Damn that black squirrel footage from the Pan S5ii looked like you had the cinema in your hands, the colours were moody and sharp. Love your stuff Kasey keep up the good work
Really great comments in real world uses that not many people are doing.
Manual focus becomes second nature the more you do it. Often, it's faster to focus manually than to adjust autofocus settings. Therefore, I have to say that GH6 remains the first choice until Panasonic ups the specs on their phase detect cameras. That might be a while for them to catch up.
Really need an update to fix the punch in on the gh6 though. It's atrocious and a major step down from my g9
Just ordered the GH6 for $1,299 from B&H as an open box. Thanks for the review. I think it will be the best fit for me.
Thorough review. Appreciate the great editing to put this review together. Great job!
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YESSSSSS More S5 II content!!!! My 6,000th one to watch this week.
Camera industry is a scam. You will never get a camera that is perfect with it all. That would put the rest out of business and they don’t do that to eachother. They work together
that’s kinda the entire premise of the channel my friend
Nobody will ever do that. They wudnt be able to keep making money
There is no one perfect camera suitable for everyone, photographers / videographers have different needs. The idea that camera companies are working together and being upset about the wealth of technological marvels and tack sharp optics available in 2023 is ridiculous.
They are actually limited by readout speed, processing power, and pixel quality. They do introduce artificial limitations to sell high end models.
What nonsense. Just like exposure is always a compromise within the exposure triangle, camera features must always be a compromise between parameters. It means that different cameras can be perfect for different needs, and not good for others. For my needs the G9 is the perfect camera. It is the best camera I have ever used. But for your needs there will be a different camera that is ideal for your needs.
The problem is too many people think that a single camera should do everything. That is impossible, and always will be impossible. The photographers who are happy with their cameras are the ones who understand their own vision and photographic needs. Those photographers are then able to find the camera that is perfect for them.
Panasonic S5II impressing again. As for your perfect camera (and possibly the perfect camera for those not needing high resolution), I'm thinking maybe an S1II or perhaps S1HII. 24 MP stacked sensor (same one in the A9II), ultra competitive price point of £3800/$3800. We know Panasonic won't skimp on video features and the stacked sensor should be able to support 4K120p and perhaps even 6K60P neither with crop. New PDAF but refined, low light AF refined, the GH6 ultra articulated screen and Pannyboy VLOG for those sweet sweet colours with the rec 709 LUT. A camera like that might be the new UA-camrs choice and would probably be the best camera on offer at that price point........till Sony come out with an A9III with a 33 MP stacked sensor with like a 1/500s readout speed lol.
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nice comparison and great work! Thanks ! The gh6 looks interesting. My personality choice is the s5 mark 2 . If you need more frames in slowmo , just use optical flow and you get it up to 20 -30 % without loss of (much) quality. Also you have awesome low light performance in Full Frame and the nice autofocus on Board :) With other Words : the s5m2 Problems you can solve with small tricks . If you dont shot on low light and use manual focus , save the Money and take the gh6. Both are very great Cameras!
The best camera channel in UA-cam! honestly! \m/
This is one of your best episodes ever.
GH6 25mp sensor + dynamic range boost + PDAF in GX body = Perfect Camera
I'm crying over the description of how the evil goose hissed!
SOME OF THOSE SHOTS
BROUGHT OUT THE
PERSONALITY OF EACH
ANIMAL AND THEIR SOUL.
13:28 That Goose deserves the Oscar!
And he probably has own channel Farm Conspiracies :)
Love the female Common Merganser and male and female Wood Ducks in flight footage.
I really appreciate you seeking out a variety of animals. It's... I could watch it all day
You are a gifted person. You provide a balance or entertainment and information. Let’s call it entermation. I watch you often. I’ll say it again. The son I never had.😢 Peace!
Q:Why do the Dutch wear wooden shoes?
A:To keep the woodpeckers off their heads,…
Infotainment
@@jaegerschtulmann German sense of humour? 🥸
as a G9 user I am waiting for G9 mark II with sensor from GH6 and AF from S5 II. Will it ever happen???
it happened
@@TheNewTravel but I moved to Z system, Nikon offers more lenses for wild life shootters
New sigma 60-600 dg dn os sports is basically native lens on S5 II. If I hadn't have R5 and the old DSLR version already, I would buy it right away.
That’s exact what I will do wait for a M43 camera with face AF. I have lots of lenses waiting for that camera
Did you get it? G9ii or GH7?
Casey your comentary on this is world class. You're are the best my friend, never doubt this digital world we live in.
My name is Damian and I'm a Panasonic fannyboy, I have dabbled in other eco-systems with limited success. Personally, the future is Panasonic for features value for money and would upgrade to Panasonic S5 II for the low light magic and keep all micro 4/3 lenses for a future 4/3 body with DPAF. Camera body's die and are reborn but light through a good lens is forever
TBH the gh6 lowlight performance is really good
Kacey, you can actually get a nice slo-mo boost with optical flow in post on AE or Premiere. You can easily double the frame rate (or make it twice slower) without any glitches.
I think you can turn 120 in 240 with great results.
There is no good fix in post for a pulsing hunting focus or a low light tiny sensor stravaganza.
Now you are giving me some ideas😯
Love your videos where photography and comedy mix together...
This is probably the funniest tech review I've ever seen 😂. I hate them both too. Which one do you go for? Panny boy, argh!!!!!
13:24 actually one of the few creators who genuinely makes me laugh
Funny video. Heads up for the "AF Bros", when going above 30P and HDMI out (monitor) you'll enter AF-C DFD mode, lose subject tracking, and shift off PDAF This is cited by Gerald Undone, and confirmed by Panasonic. It will likely be updated later given there aren't any sensor read limitations.
Above 30p or above 60p? Can I record 4K50fps with HDMI and Phase Detect?
@@bystronphotovideo I am assuming anything above 30P. This also was recently confirmed in groups for lower resolutions as well (FHD 1080 50P switches to DFD).
Wow! That dog was amazing. It looked like a little pony. I wonder what he's eating, 'cause I could use some of that energy.
I defy any camera - Sony, Canon or Nikon - to focus in the middle of the branches, and keep it still, a bird or some other animal. At the moment the only flaw of the 5s II or IIx is the 6k (full sensor recording) at 30p. We'll probably have to wait for the S1 II or IIx which has a more powerful engine to get 6K at 60p and maybe even decent slow motion.
I think Sony will do it easily. I started from a7c and now a7iv. I have focused my a7c at even harder situations and at night during my night street photography excursions.
@@leow5632 I agree that Sony has the best autofocus technology, but would have a hard time tracking a bird through dense tree branches. Unless you photograph a koala in manual focus. This is the gist of my thinking: at the moment there is no camera that can do birdwhatching in the thick bush. Let alone Panasonic....The IA technology undertaken by Sony is the way forward in the future. Even I, in Rome, enjoy myself at night, with all the precautions and it's better to have a friend nearby, to do street photography with Panasonic and Fuji sometimes in manual focus to get around the obstacle of the dark but if you want to seize the moment fleeing .... it is better that I leave it alone.
Remove the H and flip the 6. That's the camera I bought
The GH-6 lost your face three times during the intro. We have our answer.
The R5's animal eye AF works all over the frame, including 4K/120. But that slo-mo is pixel binned and soft. The S5 II's AF is very sharp but restricted to the central area, so no ruling of thirds, doesn't work at HD/120, and 4K/60 is cropped. The GH-6 has great image quality but the AF hunts like Elmer Fudd. The A7S III has no video animal AF at all. The search for perfection continues.
Please test the R6 II. It supposedly has upgraded AF along with HD/180.
"...hunts like Elmer Fudd" 🤣😂🤣
I like your Elmer Fudd reference. Because Elmer can't catch anything?
The shot at 07:56 is amazing
I will keep my OM1 and GH6 and MFT lenses and will sell my Nikon. I will buy the S5ii and use it like a B Camera for low like situations for video work and occasional photography.
Now they need a MFT to L Mount adaptor and an MFT crop mode.
Mate, what can we say? Comedy and cameras! Love it!! I have the s5 and gh5 and not sure which way to go…maybe wait until next release? Anyway will look forward to your next video 😂
In answer to your question I ordered the S5 Mk II through your link.
Question for the next Q&A: Could the S5ii become you're new wildlife camera? What are the pros and cons? You seems to enjoy it quite a lot and the color looks nicer than the A7siii
Frame rates aren't there in 4k.
@@officialtiimo That's what Topaz AI is for. We need to stop chasing 4K120+
I prefer the Gh6 Colors tbh
Almost makes me sad that the S5II is the one with the good autofocus system
With v log, the S5 colours can be almost anything you want, and the S5 has better dynamic range, leading to smoother highlight roll off, more detail in shadows and highlights. GH6 is great, but S5 is really juicy.
You have to edit colors
That is a great improvement. They also take your ancient slr or mirrorless for 300 euro at the moment. What is funny is how expensive fujifilm h2s looks now that panasonic is making this improvement in autofocus precision. The s5iix will be cheaper than the h2s and offer better image quality, better low light, better autofocus, good integrated cooling, and primes with motors and optics designed for video autofocus.
Swan to goat pan!!! Genius my friend
Both cameras have stunning picture quality , the af also is not so bad in the gh6 if they add phase detect gh6 sales will go up dramatically and the s5 will sell like fresh bread anyway
Wonder if Panasonic does not already have phase detection AF in their MFT cameras. Remember Olympus? They were able to add it to a pretty old camera via FW update. And blackmagic revealed that their cameras are recording gyro data. They kept it a secret until a few months ago. Cripple Hammer confirmed.
I find it hard to believe they won't add Phase Detect to the next GH cameras at the very least. Really hoping the reason there has been no news of another G9, is because they've been secretly working on Phase Detect in the next version. Adding PD focus through a firmware update would be great but probably wishful thinking. We'll see.
First off, as far as I've been told, the phase detect hardware has to be there on the sensor in order to support a firmware implementation...
@@GrayGhostDog1 True. Also means there will be less pixels available on the sensor for gathering light when they are used for AF.
I buy both through your links, boss.
Sony a7iv and Lumix S5 ii which one do you prefer ?
That horse was really haaaaappy to see you or did it like the camera
Some of the best wildlife video you’ve done. Granted they’re not flying around… but still. Panasonic is the future….
The image quality sharpness and color science of the GH6 blew the S5II away in every shot. I don't know if it was down to the leica glass you were using which i know does make a huge difference but if it was the camera, there ain't no autofocus in the world good enough for that tradeoff in sheer je ne sais quoi.
Kasey. (At 7:45 in the video). A crop factor of 1.22 is not a 22 % removal of length on the sensor (going from full size to cropped size). It is (1.0 - (1/1.22)) = 1.0 - 0.8197 = 0.18 = 18 % removal of length on the sensor. You have to know what is the bases for the percentage calculations.
I said the image crops in 1.22x. In other words 22%.
@@cameraconspiracies Thanks for the response, Kasey. Yes, that's what you said. I believe that the correct statement that you should have said instead was: "The image crops in 1.22x. In other words 18%". (Meaning that the crop factor (big divided by small) is 1.22, and when cropping it crops away 18% (linearly) from the big one). You may strongly disagree, but consider what is the basis for the percentage calculation. For sensor crop factors the base is always the smallest sensor. But for percentage calculations the base is the one that you start from. In this case the bigger sensor. As another example (or analogy), let's assume that you talked about a larger crop, from full frame to m4/3, which is approximately crop factor = 2. Then (potentially your) incorrect statement would have been: "The image crops in 2.0x. In other words 100%." To crop away 100% (remove everything) is clearly not correct. Do you see how I arrived at this? Let's try with crop factor 1.99 instead of 2, then it's easier: "The image crops in 1.99x. In other words 99%." Cropping away 99% is quite drastic for m4/3. It's a loser format but not to such degree. (Sorry for trying 'loser' humor; you do it so much better!)
The fact (which we all know, of course) is that a crop factor of 2 removes (crops away) 50% of the length of the bigger sensor, not 100% when going from the bigger to the smaller. The math is: (1.0 - (1/2.0)) = 1.0 - 0.5 = 0.5 = 50%.
However, I know that Camera conspiracies is a comedy / humor channel (a very good one), and nobody expects mathematical accuracy. I have followed this channel for some years and it's my main go-to channel on youtube!
@@viktorpaulsen627 You're way overcomplicating that...
@@cameraconspiracies Kasey, Thanks for letting me know.
(Let me also correct myself, I wrote "For sensor crop factors the base is always the smallest sensor." The usual setup (as we all know) is to put the FF sensor in the numerator and analyzed sensor in the denominator.)
Let me change topic.
Your "board room meetings" are Gold! I wish there was an index to make it easy to find them to see and enjoy them again. Does it exist, or how could such gift to the community come into being?
Imagine the first Firmware update for the S5II, Panny gives the best updates
Nice music and camera comparison
Thanks for the comparison. I will wait for the S5 II afters its been out for 6 months or so. Get the bugs worked out.
The Panny boy had no trouble locking on in front of that wire fence 1:07 🤣
wait. I predict Panny boy will give us a gh6II, S1HII, maybe even a g9II with PDAF. but agreed, 6 is crippled, 5II is crippled in some areas. but its still big progress. Marty Sender You Tube
That pony at 1:05 is definitely a Sony shooter!🤣
It sounds like the S5 II was struggling to see the squirrel when it was sitting still because it just looked like a black blob, but it knew it was an animal when it started moving and then the animal tracking kicked in.
Magical imagery and narration!!!
I see your tracking skills are improving. Also your in-studio footage is fantastic! Whatever is that combination lock it in!!! Well both cameras are great. Can’t go wrong with either but best to make a decision based on the lenses. Keep up the good work!
I’m generally with you wrt lenses being high priority. But I don’t generally rush out and buy the latest and greatest upon release. In this case, I’d wait a year and see what the lens situation is like for the S5 II. The improved autofocus is very compelling (almost a game changer) but I’m not going to assume the lenses I want/need will be there.
ATM, I’m uncommitted to any system. Last year I financed a new Mac purchase with my credit card-right before interest rates went up 😢. (Variable rate cards suck when rates go up.) It’s going to be a while before that debt is paid down and I can even think about buying a new system.
Love the farm footage! Have a rockin' weekend!
This is the first video ive seen of yours... Instant sub... Hilarious
Great vid Casey!
Have you tried tracking AF? - You can assign a button to that, aim your croshair and press AF to track you chosen subject.
This video reveals what I have been seeing. The GH6 is still an overall better filmmaker camera than the S5 II. The GH6 compliments my S1H very well (now that I am better at getting the colors to match). I commend Panasonic's efforts with the S5 II and I am very hopeful it will bring in more users to the ecosystem, but the S5 II nor S5 II X are a replacement for my S1H. Panasonic, if you are reading this (and I assume you are), please just give us 4K 120, VND, SSD Recording and a bigger battery...plus eliminate those damn crops.
@Big Cook The S1H has timecode, better hi-res multi-angle screen, more RAW options, larger battery, tally lights, more buttons. I can keep going. The S1H was developed for actual video/film making. The S5IIX is going to be good but very few S1H filmmakers are going to give up on the S1H for just PD-AF.
Awesome video mate... how did I miss this one... G9 user here... must wait for your prophesied G9ii (x)?
Nice conversation with the horse by the way.. haha Seriously though great video I have a S1 and I love it and always believe that panasonic is superior in camera quality. I just wish they had more of stabilization like the smooth go pro 11 I have. Keep the good videos coming for 2023!
S5IIX (when it comes out) while I wait for the inevitable S1HII (S2H?).
Please please please can you check the mount free play? My S5 has some rotational free play with all my lenses. When I zoom the lens rotate like half a mm and clicks. It is so increadibly annoying and I am wondering if this issue is persistent or my cameras is screwed. Thanks a lot! 🙏
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I own GH5 GH6 and S5ii.
Got a great deal to straight swap my GH6 to s5 + sigma 85mm f1.4.
A cam is S5ii + Lumix S pro 28-70
B cam S5 + sigma 85mm
C cam GH5 + speedbooster 18-35mm
What do you think?
Those two T-shirts look remarkably different shades of green despite being two recent cameras from the same company. They are both pleasant greens, but clearly different. The orange shirt he sometimes wears also looks different depending on camera brand. I wish he would tell us which colour shirt is more correct to real life after he reviewed his footage, that would be helpful.
My two cents as a longtime LUMIX user. I like the gh6 a lot but that thing struggles over 1600 ISO. The low light plus the PDAF on the S5ii allows me to not care about 4k120 as much. GH6 has everything and more on the S5ii except FF, PDAF and low light. They match up nice!
Never use any ISO other ISO other than 800 and 2000. For those dual ISO cameras, always stick to their native ISO. That's the rule of thumb.
@@steadicamwalker Yeah thats not always possible, my man. Use the ISO required to get the shot and stick as close as you can to both native ISOs.
We all have different standards. I think the gh6 footage looks fantastic all the way up to iso 8000. I even find 12800 to look acceptable. That's enough for me to deal with any lighting conditions.
Thanks for yet another injection of GH camera magic
the lackluster autofocus on the gh6 kinda sucked considering i came from a canon dual pixel camera... but it still works well enough and the most important part is that its there if i need it. what sold me most though is that i already own a lot of crop sensor glass from that previous canon cam, and the gh6 was cheaper. throw a good speedbooster on it and its really no different from a full frame camera as far as im concerned
That “goose-looking thing” is, in fact, a goose.
This summer I bought a G9 as it was $1000. off of the mslp. I like the camera, but I also realize that Panasonic is coming out with a replacement otherwise they wouldn't have offered such a discount. If it has phase detect af then my G9 will be a beater and will be my second string camera and I am ok with that.
Nah it’s been on that discount for a looooong time. Enjoy the G9, it’ll be a good training if you ever choose to upgrade! I loved that camera but now I’m an S5 user.
@@shootthechit we find the G9 autofocus to be fine as long as light is decent. In video talking head stuff never/rarely have an issue on CAF. Too much contrast or low light it struggles, but many crop sensors will too. Check out Marlene Hielema’s channel on using a g9.
@@shootthechit good point and not its strength for sure, though it can work ok in most circumstances. Marlene’s videos largely just show how well with experience. I noted a few videos out there on how to make Sony autofocus work well too. Our Sony’s AF is darn close to perfect, but it’s IBIS is OK at best, works though you just can’t push it. Likely could say the same for G9 AF in video; you can’t push it. I don’t think it works well if much movement, maybe a bit better than a GH5. Marlene seems to make it work though for skateboarding too, but small clips. If you are a photographer pretty much perfect. For solo video, my preference would be definitely (!) be Sony or Canon, though you can get by. That said, maybe a new Panny now with Phase detect and contrast!
@@shootthechit it sure does!
@@thatsreallyamoon it's likely been on discount for such a long time because Panasonic probably has a ton of them to clear out, but we'll see what happens. They are likely not going to launch the updated full frame and updated micro four thirds at the same time.
Riverdale Farm! That's in a nice area.
11:13 I'm pretty sure you can make that tiny box larger, and move it with the joystick or with the finger on the screen, while recording.
I'm buying G9 ii with face Detect 😁 I have many lenses and no Body at the moment 😅 thanks for the lovely content
What do you think of Canon 6D Mark2 for video?