The DARKEST Depths Of The E-Girl Community...
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- The worlds most valuable resource, an entity greater than life itself, truly one of the galaxy's most universal common denominators, E-Girls have been at the forefront of this generations most widespread subcultures. However, all might not be what it seems. In this video, we're doing a deep dive into the culture and aesthetic to uncover what lies beneath the darkest of its depths.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
01:23 - Misconceptions
02:42 - The Uwu-ification Of The Military
06:36 - Exploitation Of Simps
09:40 - Creepy Fans
12:05 - E-Girl Group Chat Leak
14:05 - Cultural Appropriation
17:34 - The Infantillization Of E-Girls
Intro shot by: Andre Goncalves
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tbh my e-girl journey? i didnt even have to show my face... or anything. i just hung out on a minecraft server and had a sweet personality, so some1 ggifted me the highest rank, and some people gave me nitro. crazy
@@lilatunez I have no idea how many people gifted me free nitro on a meme server.
@@arfeoof lol
@@SUPERNOVA0360 of course, fly high, baby doggy
Oceaniz is this your alt? 💀
I got called an E-Girl by someone I had just met literally yesterday, and now this video comes out, I feel like the universe is trying to tell me something. What, i dont know.
why’d you get called an e-girl?
@@shadowedge729 I asked what he thought about my outfit and he said “it matches your egirl personality” or something along those lines 😭😭
@@legallypumpkin that’s crazy 😭
Sounds like they were a sour simp
Only Fans link splattered anywhere and everywhere, excessive sticking out of the often pierced tongue and a proclivity for slapping furry kitty ears on thy head and the inverting of eyes for that maximum climax bait effect upon some poor increasingly underprepared and heavy breathing barbarian males.
I’m Asian, I would say that appropriation is becoming more common than appreciation. I feel like being Asian now is “cool” because of the internet spreading the positives of Asian culture, when in the past, it was seen as weird/outdated. I used to be bullied and outcasted in middle school for being the only Asian and having people see my culture as weird. Now, I see so many middle schoolers into Asian media, food, and anything Asian in general now that the internet over the years fetishized the culture and made it cool. It also made a lot of creeps that have targeted Asians, including me, for fetish reasons, and that’s starting to really ruin the entire concept of e-culture. The targeting of young teen audience also bothers me, as some parts of egirl culture is simply just not for young impressionable teens who haven’t started even thinking of college, work, or their future. It can be introduced correctly and in a healthy nonfetishized way, but lately, this isn’t the case.
I absolutely agree with you.
Its disturbing how a culture can "trend" like that.
like, hairstyles can trend, clothing can trend, but people? People's culture trending is just so disturbing to me.
We should always appreciate people's culture, not just for a bit but always.
On behalf of the Black Delegation, welcome to the club! They took everything and left nothing! 😂
@@goodnightmr5892 I would say sorry on behalf of the people who did that, but that comment made made me laugh for some reason lol hope your having good rest of your week
That is something that should be taught to future generations. If somebody is being bullied for having some weird hobby, don't worry, it will become not only main stream, but people will be bullied for not doing it.
or when some guy approaches as 14 year old Asian girl and says "Oh I bet you're legal coz all Asians look young and pretty so I bet you're like 30 already" ...
the creepiest of them all. Doesn't only just make him a pedo creep but also insults any Asian girls that are not blessed with youthful looks as being "less"
Don't forget about the obsessed fans that kills the e-girl. Bianca Devins' case is one of them.
Pretty sure he wasn’t a “fan” but was a friend of her for a few years and even met her family?
@@coolmanyea5030 it was a boyfriend, they met on discord
@@spices2611 "they met on discord" that's a redflag right there lmfao
@@spices2611 he was a hookup who though that was her boyfriend, despite her always being clear about not loving him
He killed her because she kissed another guy in a concert
@@spices2611 i’ve seen some call him an “orbiter”
This is a very interesting video, thank you for your work! While clothing is not inherently sexual, one can argue that e-girls’ selling point is their sexuality. Ahegao is literally an orgasm face, like… if you’re doing that in childish clothing then what else can you be saying? 😂
The clothes argument is an excuse alot of their outfits are sexual on purpose and they know it's just once they admit that then alot of their arguments become invalid e girls over sexualize themselves to gain attention develop a fanbase "sex sells" why do you think 60% of them have an onlyfans if not to be sexualized for monetary gain them saying they don't like being sexualized is like me dousing my house in gasoline and complaining about the fire hazard and the smell
@@grungeisdead8998 I don’t mind people doing sex work at all, it’s just kind of pointless trying not to call it what it is. I guess part of it may be not to be kicked off of streaming platforms, since the moment you say the S-word, places get very antsy.
If we didn’t demonise sex work in the first place, I doubt this would be as much of a problem as it is.
@@rexzs794 EXACTLY
Cosplay used to be a big part of my life for nearly two decades and I found my self nodding in agreement a lot with your video just based on my own experience participating and working in that community. I remember one time I tried to bring up how the infantilization and oversexualization in cosplay was having an affect on real women in the community, including minors, like you discussed in your video, and people just attacked me online. It was one of maaaany reasons why I left that community. So, anyway I'm glad YT algo worked in both of our favors today. ;)
Cultist hate being told they're wrong.
Thank you so much for talking about how clothes are not inherently sexual!
I wish I could just wear the clothes I wanted without having to worry if I'll be sexualized because of it.
tbh with anyone i would not say they are sexual JUST for putting undersized clothes on. it's more concerning if they have an ongoing pattern of connecting childish clothes to sexual contexts (e.g. ahegao faces WHILE wearing "baby tees"...)
same! i think disturbing part is not clothes but acting like children
I dress how I want in the summertime
As a Japanese Chinese born in America, the Asian culture in America really differs from actual Japanese fashion. When I visited Japan, a lot of people wore suits or more formal clothing, not anime cosplay because of the type of work. At the beginning, I thought it was cool that people have a positive look on East Asian culture and looks because I was always afraid of post pearl harbor racism. But now, I think it's just kinda overused. I don't necessarily think of it as racism I just think of it as tiring, overused, and over sexulized.
Thank you, really think a lot of white people especially OF girls use this too much
That’s what great about America and our culture. In Japan, you tend to have to “read the room” through their gestures & expression, so every one is pretty much afraid to disapprove of each other.
I love how having dyed hair immediately makes you an e-girl, probably doesn't help I wear pokemon clothing or pokemon scrunchies in my hair and have overwatch keyrings on my car keys so I don't hide my gaming obsession. Even now that I have most of my natural hair and just one streak of colour I still get it. Oh well.
That's cuz you are one. It is not "hiding" to not advertise your interests everywhere. You can talk about them. But advertising that you love Pokemon via scrunchies is unnecessary in order to enjoy Pokemon. Put the stuff away. Putting away the Fortnite keychain isn't "hiding" your interest. It is just not making your gaming interests part of your fashion. It's being a grown adult. You sound like a child. Are you? If so, I'll allow it. If not, grow up.
Ah don’t let their words hurt you, make their words motivate you.
People suck, but in time I like to think that a majority of them start to see the error of their ways and change for the better in time.
@@jerrym1218 I don't hate being called an e-girl. I am one and it's a meme among my friends. I just hate that any girl with dyed hair is called an e-girl even if they've never touched a video game in their life, streamed or posted videos on social media, etc.
@@Cyntaria Do you like to match what your friends all do, weather it’s the way they dress or present themselves in social settings??
When I was a teen hanging out with all my childhood buddies, I never wanted to dress and act like them, because they would dress according to the popular fashion of the 90’s and early 2000’s, and they would act like urban hip hop dudes and use all the slang and stuff, it made me laugh and drove me crazy sometimes because they would actually attract women acting like that and I was always myself and just spoke normal and dressed in regular jeans and t-shirts, and I never had any girls get attracted to me, I wasn’t wearing designer clothes or jewelry chains like my friends would have, not to mention I was too distracted playing basketball all over my neighborhood and with school teams, video games also were a great distraction too lol 😂.
It’s so crazy how times change and wherever you are growing up might influence how you carry yourself and become, some go with the in crowd to show everyone that they talk, dress and act like them.
Apologies for rambling about my bygone era, hearing how you carry yourself with your friends and all made me remember how things were when I was growing up, and how both genders experience different journeys, not to mention, it reminds me that I am a smelly old fart now lol 😂.
Always be yourself, is the best advice this old fool can give you.
Kaitlyn deserves a safe and healthy life. No one should have to live in fear.
Whether or not you like them, people like her are still people.
coming from a (southeast) asian girl, there’s definitely heavy appropriation of especially east asian culture with little respect to the culture itself when it comes to non-asian online personalities like egirls-i find that east asian features and aesthetics are also used to enhance a more “childlike” look and is borderline fetishization most times to appeal to their audiences, which tend to be full of people more notorious for their fetishization. i find this reinforces the harmful stereotype of asian women being more “youthful” than their non-asian counterparts, leading to the imitation of asian features which is obviously wrong
i admittedly had my own egirl phase in high school, but i think everything is a can of worms & there’s no benefit other than attention from a questionable demographic and monetary gain ofc
(i emphasize east asian culture especially because it’s always japanese and korean culture such as aegyo and kawaii culture etc etc)
also ngl the girls in that group chat would be the type to call an asian person squid game to their face and proceed to edit their pictures to look asian with the exposure turned all the way up
People go so out-of-the-way there’s literally one person who gave a E-girl a Tesla
Fr?
Everyone I know YOUNGER than me - tiktok users / chronically online - are obsessed with east-asian culture. It's K-pop, K-dramas, the fashion, the makeup, the look... it is truly disturbing as to how they treat it like a trendy "thing".
I like anime, and I respect Japanese culture, but I don't wish to be Japanese or to be perceived as such. I've seen these people/kids do the whole "fox-eye" makeup challenge. They fantasize about having a asian boyfriend (preferably Korean) 🤦♀️.
There is a difference between appreciation and appropriation, and what they are doing is neither - they straight up fetishize asian culture/ features.
I’m not a girl, but I am Asian and even I feel the effects of the west’s fetishization of Asian culture. For the most part it’s genuine appreciation and curiosity, but I’ve met strange people who both accused me of being an “influencer” or people who wanted to know every single thing of my life because of my heritage. One old woman also blamed me for using my phone to ‘sexualize and demoralize the kids in the US’, like no I’m just scrolling through Instagram. Being Asian in America now a days is it’s own weird form of hell and paradise. Unfortunately, as long as these content creators remain popular, I think the fetishization of Asian culture will continue much to the annoyance of literally much of the Asian population in the world.
People are rude af and just weird. Sorry you experienced that.
Then start the re imperiliazation of japan
Reintroduce the shogunate
Yet westerners don't care if other countries like our stuff. Head might need to be pulled out of arses.
Sorry you had to experience that, it honestly feels horrible when people point fingers at you for something you didn't do, and the people who called you "Sexualizor" just for being Asian have an immature understanding of the culture themselves.
8:34 unlocked a memory for me. I remember my friend and I paying someone on there to be our third player in the minecraft minigame "Bed Wars", mostly just for fun and because we were curious to see what would happen. She didn't know how to play and didn't have her mic on so it was mostly just kind of awkward.
There’s nothing wrong with taking influences from different places. It’s not always cultural appropriation.
It is lol especially y’all white people with Asian culture
@@MrAjking808 oh shut up
Lol speaking as someone in a j-fashion community that tends to overlap with e-girl communities on occasion (as in the girls themselves, not like the fan community) it’s so entertaining to watch the drama go down there vs on this side of the internet.
I really don't like the e-girl thing. It's always rubbed me the wrong way. Actually, to be honest.. it's more like revulsion. It might be my autism making my dislikes much more potent, but their promiscuous, attention seeking behaviour was gross to me, that, and the fact that they're terrible terrible people yet people still adore them..and I'm here doing my very best to be the best I can be and standing alone. Sure, I wish I looked like them. I have pink hair down to my butt but the rest is ick. But my views aren't guided by jealousy. I'm just really, really put off by obnoxious behaviour. and don't get me started on the ahegao shit. That made me turn inside out with second hand embarrassment. My boyfriend has a slightly e-girl aesthetic, but he's absolutely beautiful inside and out 🥺✨💖✨💖✨ anyway, great video fox! The beach kinda looked like Southend! Give me a shout if youre ever by here and we can grab an ice cream and I'll crush you at air hockey :D
your mental illness doesn't stop you from growing nor does it make it okay to hate on a whole sub-culture.
The tiktok dance is the torture method
Incel moment
I feel like putting the blanket label of cultural appropriation on the entire e-girl aesthetic is... it doesn't have enough nuance. For the fox eyes thing - it has a history in Western culture, too. Far before anime and Japanese video games and Korean dramas rose in the cultural zeitgeist, western people have been attempting a fox-eyed look. At the same time, I feel like the fetishisation of asian people in general has gotten worse over the years, not better. I don't know if that's true, though, or if it just feels that way because people have been talking about it more. Personally, I've noticed more creeps acting weird towards me now vs 7 years ago when I was 20 and a prime target for creeps. BUT I also wasn't on social media as much back then, and more people in general are on social media now vs 7 years ago.
Idk, I just feel like the entire conversation around cultural appropriation has drifted a lot from its original intention. I don't think it's cultural appropriation for Americans to get into Asian media. If you follow that thought to its conclusion, you'll arrive at 'white people should only watch white things and asian people should only watch asian things', and that's... xenophobia. That's xenophobia and racism. That's bad. Those are bad things. Enjoying a foreign country's media and treating people from that country as people and not fetishized caricatures are two different things, and I think it's better to dissociate them rather than lump them together. Plus, cultural appropriation was originally a term for African-American people in America to discuss the SPECIFIC ways their culture intersects with the dominant white culture, because of their shared history and the long, long history of oppression and disenfranchisement. A lot of cultural appropriation discourse falls apart when you try to apply it to other ethnic groups, because a lot of talk about cultural appropriation was originally coined for that specific experience.
I mean, yeah, some of the white girls are definitely appropriating asian culture, but it just feels like such a minor issue compared to, say, the post-covid wave of anti-Chinese racism that's spilling into other East Asian ethnic groups. I just feel like a lot of people are annoyed by e-girls and grasping at cultural appropriation to make their annoyance seem more legitimate. You can just be annoyed by them! It also feels like the newest iteration of nerds trying to gatekeep the nerd community from fake sexy nerd girls. Misogyny isn't 'in' anymore, so you have to couch it in terms like cultural appropriation and emotional damage. Seriously, some of the criticism I've seen of egirls directly mirror the shit men would say 10 years ago about those evil sexy sluts pretending to be nerdy gamer girls so they can infiltrate nerd spaces and brainwash men with their evil sexy boobs. I side-eye anyone who criticises egirls without giving the same amount of attention and scrutiny to male influencers who trick their followers into crypto scams.
I don't think he's sexist.
He just makes topics on things like this because they can be somewhat sexual, or seem to be, which attracts views
While the fox eye challenge is atrocious those images of the goth clothing trend are epically funny to me as being attributed to East Asian dress style suddenly…. Hey that is how 90’s goth kids dressed on the regular. Also the subset at that time that was into anime was small trust me people thought we were watch cartoons. All the kids I knew growing up who were into anime would have been stoked to actually go to Japan and drop into the culture. We tried learning the language, history, cuisine, culture… all of it. How yougins approach it today may be different but these authors need to do some actual fashion research. The cosplay stuff is because people love the fking characters why the fck has it suddenly become trashy to recreate a character’s actual look? I feel like it is becoming the new form of gatekeeping. Keep it up and industries will die. Also if the anime made in the country by a legit local fetishized their own people stop blaming everyone else for liking what your own people are supporting. Either both are wrong or not.
I hate to say it. But I don’t think this community or the practices are going away any time soon. I’m considered an e-girl. But I don’t dress very Asian inspired at all. I wear a lot of black and intricate makeup/eyeliner designs. I’m very honest with my fans and am always myself on socials. I don’t try to gimmick them or take their money because they “simp” over me. And that’s probably why I only have around 6k followers. Men LOVE women that dominate them and take advantage of them. And even if they don’t, they see right past it because they’re so horny and just want attention. I wish people would look for smaller creators like myself. I try to be a good person and not appropriate anyone else’s culture. Just be my own person and be honest. Feels weird to say but I feel like I’m much more deserving of fans than the women that behave the way you were explaining in this video. It just sucks. It really does.
The narcissism is strong with this e-girl.
@@mikebane2866 oh cool I’m glad you know me so well❤️
@@mikebane2866 also, what is it that would make you come at me like that? I said nothing mean in my comment at all. Just my opinion. What triggered you about that enough to call me a narcissist when you have no fucking clue who I am??
Bro what💀 I’m an 18 year old girl but girl wtf are you on, you sound intensely self centered that is NOT what I got from this video
would def be interested in you doing a video on the online recruitment methods! your videos are always great but this one was especially good! thanks Fox ^_^
Definitely interested in a video about weird military recruitment tactics! Especially all of the movies that have been funded by the US Dept of Defense.
I’m gonna be honest…You need more subs
Your work is absolutely perfect, and complete!
Thank you so much for the lovely comment ❤️ I totally agree haha
WHAT IS THIS CINEMATIC INTRO??
Fantastic job with this video and the entire series, Fox!! You've been getting better and better!
The Japanese wants you to take part of the culture they have, they actually promote it. But it may only be them who think like this. They are not very open to SJW stuff as we are and actually if you google it find us nuts for harping about this.
Of course, though I think the problem comes from reducing a culture to specific aesthetics or fetishized ideas. I'm also aware Japanese and other East Asian media have been criticized for similar appropriation/fetishization of other cultures and religions.
That's not culture, that whole e-girl and "look-like-anime-girl" scene is just retarded and borderline CP.
im an east asian who also sort of has an e girl aesthetic and i agree that alot of people who are in the egirl community are cultural appropriating rather than appreciating. Some egirls have a tendency to contribute to the preexistiing fetishization of east asian women- for example many of them will dress up in "sexy" japanese school girl uniforms.
You my guy is HIGHLY UNDERATED
❤️
I shortly took up a stint of being a “for hire egirl” on E-Pal, never even got into games. genuinely was just low on cash and thought maybe I could meet some nice people and friends and whatnot. I wound up only taking orders from two customers before I was just done. talking to these men is fucking exhausting, both of them immediately after like thirty minutes were already talking about how I should go to them and be their girlfriend. they got SO attached and obsessive, they BOTH began offering to pay for nudes after only speaking once for about an hour. that is NOT what I was looking for nor did I want to do. they’re so fucking pushy and don’t seem to understand that no. no I am not using this as a dating app you are paying me to talk to you. overall just very uncomfortable and I dipped out pretty quick. part of me felt bad for taking advantage of them or whatever, but any pity quickly disappeared once they continuously began pressuring me to do sex work for them.
Appreciate this write up. I like talking and was going to try it. But if there's pressure for nudes, nah
I feel like being somewhat popular on social media and streaming platforms isn't too far off from being a 100% e-girl. You look at the most popular women in there, they're always dressed either provocatively or in quirky ways (the usual super frilly pink skirts, chains, rainbow hair with multiple accessories, etc) and even the Vtuber community is choke full of women who fake an entire personality to appear more innocent and cute, down to doing the anime voice. In the end, both sides are just an act; an act done with the goal of earning money, but also earning loyal followers who will defend you no matter what. An e-girl nowadays is really not that far off from your average big streamer.
I've been waiting for this.
Out of all people, i didnt expect to see broogli here
BROOGS
This one will be exciting!!
geeeees not another youtuber from brighton lol I've been watching for a while now and I was not expecting you to start your video off with you throwing pebbles 20mins from my flat
I’m half Japanese and half Spanish and live in Japan. I’m 1000% behind E-girls
what a truly poetic intro.
"this is cinema"
@@FoxAkimbo gotta add it to my top 4 on letterboxd rn
@@FoxAkimbo definitely brought a tear to my eye
@@FoxAkimbo top 3 best intro ever
Great jobb. Thanks for Your work in explaining the backgrounds of E-girls
God that intro is so masterfully shot..
Shoutout to my cinematographer
Great video! I loved the intro❤
Glad you liked it!!
The USA has used a game called "America online" to recruit for ages. If it's not still around, it was like counterstrike. It was popular at the same time back in the day
Correction: the game was America's army
It was called America's Army which was only released in around 2000, it has in no way been around for "ages". Also America Online is AOL lol
@@illeagle9560 yes, I knew it was not America online. Thank you!! Around ages ago, would be more correct, you are right
Well nowadays they use Call of Duty
@@L.K.48 America's Army 5 is still going to be released soon, they make it more realistic than CoD.
I remember failing hard at basic training in that game to the point where even the A.I. drill instructor began to give up on teaching me, just sayin’. 😜
Love the dramatic intro ❤❤
That's your best intro yet. Got a good laugh.
Im old, so i remember before the internet. There was always girls like this. Every neighborhood had 1. They still do and now they have cameras and a distribution system
i would definitely feel more appreciated (rather than "appropriated") as an asian person if people didn't see influencers put on asian aesthetics for show and then gawk at me (regular degular asian that dresses emo/grunge style) like my natural asian features just existing is also supposed to be a show
I think it’s a natural progression, you got pin ups on military vehicles, now (yes it already has happened) to have anime girls on helicopters * cough cough Japan's 4th Anti Tank cough cough*
I can't stand the girls on twitch who wear skimpy clothing and their boobs sticking out etc, like I feel like they're not so much into the game and are just eye candy .
I know this -
I am not their target audience.
They seem to mostly do well in life in their line of work.
And due to them being minor celebrities in a way, they'll always be under scrutiny .
As for the whole "looks"... It's a trend, like all things, it'll get replaced by something else after a while.
There's really nothing in this type of sub culture that is build to last... Like flowers, their esthetic will wither.
Sounded hella emo. But I do have to agree though
@@Mental_Abortion I heard allot of emo/gothic music as a teen.
So, some of the stain still sticks.
I loved the intro
You are really handsome. The video was funny. You should do some long form comedic commentary mabye, but like in an essay style. I'd dig that. Anyway, great video
I’m actually mixed so I’m only half Asian (Japanese) and the style and cultures of Asia, like all cultures, are made to be shared. I don’t think we should gate keep certain aesthetics. What I do worry about sometimes is the fetishization that some people engage in. However, this is obviously not only towards Asian people so I hardly see myself as a victim even if I’ve been called “vaguely oriental” or “K-pop looks” (which I think is crazy because I’m not even close to as attractive haha)
Just quickly replying to myself e girls specifically don’t Asian fish in my opinion. It’s actually a blend of a lot of subcultures, of which Asian is only a small part of. emo, punk, skater and other cultures are just as much blended as East Asian cultures. Fox eyes has (at least in my opinion) nothing at all to do with Asian people and attaching specifically to Asian people is almost more racist in my opinion. If I saw this make up I wouldn’t even think about Asian people. But heyyyyy that’s just a theory a COMMENT THEORY
The production value is this video absolutely fantastic!!!
OK it was worth the wait. Great video and topic
Glad you enjoyed
If it wasn't horrible enough..
Might be a personal bias, but I do not believe women find men more attractive with age. 18-40 is the sweet spot & it decreases with every wrinkle & bald spot.
Been waiting for this one and I havent even subbed yet lmao
Then what are you doing
Subscriiiiibe
Not being subbed to him is like a crime
@@FoxAkimbo I finally joined the club Bros :)
I used to think, "Man, I sure am relieved to have a son and not a daughter - the worries!"
But these men PAY FOR THIS AND FALL FOR IT EFFORTLESSLY. And I'm sure plenty of them have decent enough parents lol I'm just doing what I can to make sure he isn't a simp or a complete asshole, goodness gracious 😂
I have a son. I think educating them on maintaining social/relationships. Male loneliness is a huge problem, and I am certain those related problems mostly start there.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but was that intro filmed in Brighton?
ur videos literally never miss. i see u post? i click. i watch. i enjoy ❤️
damn this video is so fresh
Excellent!!!
As an E-Girl who's part Chinese, I feel like it honestly depends on the person, but as someone who appreciates my own eye shape and wears that style of makeup myself, as long as you aren't purposefully fetishizing Asian features, the aesthetic is perfectly harmless.
Every time I see "e-girl", all that plays in my head is:
*BPD and ecstasy, conceited with no self-esteem, she's a teenage dream if you hate yourself...*
11:00
Ive had a male stalker follow me to all the festivals I would go to.
He was rather harmless but shit was weird
2:02 PACKGOD VS EGIRL OMFL THAT VIDEO WAS HILARIOUS ASFFFFFF SHOUT OUT TO PAAACKGOOOD
Best thumbnail I’ve ever seen
Honestly I think the over prescription of meds has decreased gen z recruitment rates, for example I would enlist but can’t due to prescription use
One personal pro that e-girls have given me is making me less self conscious about having a button nose as they use makeup to fake one or highlight there’s and making freckles a big thing
I’m happy that most people don’t see being an e-girl as just a style thing and more a self declared thing as i would have all the making of an e-girl look wise but I don’t stream or do tiktoks
Good video. For me, I just love the look, as well as the memes, jokes, references, etc. as well as the obvious thing...😉 It is a shame about the negatives though...
Amazing intro!
I'm glad you like it
@@FoxAkimbo Is it near Brighton?
Was in Brighton yeah
I don't think it's cultural appropriation, nobody is doing it to be offensive or insulting. It's more appreciation. I have a lot of appreciation for Asian culture. Like seriously, thank you for anime, the amazing food, the scary folklore, fashion trends, and the beautiful country. I'm part Asian on my dad's side and he wasn't in my life so I missed out on a lot of my Asian culture. Even though I wasn't able to grow up in it I still love experiencing it, and I think it's perfectly fine if others want to experience it too. As long as it's in love and appreciation not hate and malice.
Edit: I'm not trying to defend the people that actually do appropriate Asian culture and exploit it to make money. I guess I should've been a little more clear about that. I just meant the people that actually do appreciate it and all it has to offer. Not the people who sexualize it.
No it's not appreciation it's coming from a place of sexualization
I would agree that enjoying Asian foods, music, wearing Korean or Japanese fashion, or trying out Korean skincare or makeup is not appropriation. (Korean makeup looks better on me. I don’t do it to look Asian, I do it because it makes my eyes look bigger)
But here is where it crosses the line: doing their makeup or getting surgery to make it appear as if they have the genetic eye shape that Asian people have. This is not a part of Asian culture, because Asian people don’t do this. They already have this feature genetically.
And another place where it crosses the line is when people start “acting Asian.” In truth, they are not acting Asian, they are playing out stereotypes and therefore spreading them. Especially the stereotype that Asian women are more s*xual than other women, more submissive/subservient and more child-like. These stereotypes are HARMFUL AF. It leads to fet*shization, which puts Asian women at risk of assault, abuse by romantic partners, expectations by partners that they will be submissive and subservient, etc.
I don’t the the intent of the e-girls who appropriate Asian culture is to mock. It certainly isn’t to spread stereotypes or put Asian women at risk, but regardless of their intent, the result is still the same. Maybe these e-girls who do this have no idea that they are causing harm, so it’s a forgivable offence if they find out and change what they do. But regardless of the e-girls, it’s an important conversation to have.
It's a very case-by-case thing. Merely liking a particular culture or facet of it isn't appropriation, and usually is appreciation in good faith. Appropriation occurs where one just reduces a culture to an aesthetic or a specific fetishized idea. The latter can happen both out of ignorance or out of malice.
@@lisapeesalemonsqueezah3241 I agree with everything you said. The only thing I'd argue a little bit is the surgery or makeup aspect. Some do do it to look more Asian but a lot of people do it to get that sultry, slim, sexy eye look, which is preferred or liked by more cultures than just Asian. Arabian is a good example where, if I'm not mistaken, the whole "fox eye" trend came from. It's a popular eyeliner style in that culture. I would even consider that maybe it's not even Asian in origin at all. But only because of the fact that Asian beauty trends tend to lean for a larger more "western" eye look. They even get double eye lid surgery to achieve the look. But that is not considered appropriation by many people bc many people think you cannot appropriate western/white culture. And a lot of the times they're just wearing a winged eyeliner, which I wouldn't really consider appropriation. The only surgery I could justify the appropriation argument with is the brow lift surgery (I don't know the exact term for it) where they lift the corners of your eyes up and the tail of your brow up. This raises and slims your eye and makes you appear more "exotic" looking. It's a popular surgery in more than just one cultural community though.
I've never heard of the stereotype that Asian women are more sexual, submissive, and subservient though. I guess I could see where it would come from though, with the whole "anime waifu" stereotype. I have heard the more child like one though. This comes from the way some Asian people act. The whole cutesy, pastel, adorable aesthetic. They're perceived as more child like because of the way they make everything cute. Youth is actually something prevalent mostly in Japanese culture. With people even going as far as to make their teeth crooked and accentuating their eye bags because they think it gives a more "youthful" appearance. Anime also has a lot to do with the stereotypes. And when you start getting into the Anime/Manga side of it is when it usually starts to become more sexualized. Anime has a large western presence, it's extremely popular with a wide range of people. So it has a heavy influence in the way some people view Asian culture. And that can go bad in terms of sexualization really quickly. We all know how sexual anime can get.
It really is a case by case thing like the person above said. There are definitely people who use the stereotypes, style, and culture for bad/sexual things. But there's also people who appreciate it and just enjoy everything Asian culture has to offer. I will say that is the most copied culture by far though. It has a lot of influence.
True, true. But what makes me hate the most is that people are always doing the "asian-fishing" thing. For example, those people try to make themselves "asian" and acting "asian". I'm asian myself, and what makes my blood boil is the whole idea of asian fetish and "asians are s*xual" stereotype.
* nuzzles* you'we about to get towtuwed fow Infowmation nya~
The Uws Militawy
At that point take a pistol and point it at the bottom of my chin and unload the magazine in my brain
Love watching a video about a man talking about beauty standards for women :)))
It’s not just the huge streamers who are on that end, think about the smaller ones who don’t really know how to navigate that
Yes please do a vid on the military recruiting Gen Z in "different " methods
The aesthetic b roll came out fantastic. Great job!
Glad you liked it! Thanks a lot
This video was good, but the appropriation argument is so stupid. People claim that appropriating kpop style is wrong when kpop appropriated western pop. We need to get over the appropriation hysteria, it's fake outrage created to spread division. Asian people and culture have been very much loved by the west in the last 20 years especially. I hate this word but let's just stop with all the gaslighting.
I'm inclined to agree. It's largely a case-by-case basis and as long as it's not from a place of prejudice and malice, it should at least be tolerated. I understand the issue of boiling an entire culture to its aesthetics instead of learning the intricacies of the culture in question, and that is a genuine issue, but criticizing people for wearing T-shirts with Japanese kanji on it isn't really appropriating the culture. Weeaboos aren't cringe because they respect Japanese culture and know a lot about it, but instead like Japan for its pop culture and nothing else.
@@AluminumFusion22 Yeah, I think a big distinction between appropriation and appreciation is if the culture is being fetishized or not. Fetishization here being the irrational obsession or sexualization based on a very specific idea on a concept, and reducing said concept to that idea.
I'm only half Asian (I'm Blasian) and in my opinion I don't "look Asian" at all, not even close 😂, but I personally don't see any "appropriation" in this. People also tend to say the same thing to cosplayers, specifically Black cosplayers. I don't like others standing in front of me and deciding for me and my culture that something is "wrong" or "appropriation", and anyone who IS of either of my races agrees that it's appropriation, I still simply disagree overall. I have my own separate opinions on the concept of appropriation as a whole, but I digress (if I said that correctly, lol). I'm specifically half Japanese, and I LOVE when people accept the culture, especially anime otaku and gaming otaku cultures, as I myself am considered both an anime and gaming otaku and I love seeing others love it ❤️
At the same time, there has always been a weird feeling from people who worship Asian-ness as a whole, and from people who hate Asian people. I have anime acquaintances who I DON'T tell I'm half Japanese right away because they either think I'm lying just because I like anime, or they become scary obsessed with me and stop treating me like a human being and more like a favorite character. Other than that, I don't tend to feel the effects of any appropriation, personally. As I said, I'm half Black as well, and I tend to feel any race-related issues THERE more, particularly negative. And I am actually someone who is very open about the csa I suffered and how it's messed me up (tl;dr I am schizophrenic with cptsd, anxiety and depression and cannot work because I cannot function "properly). And for some reason, people who are fans or antis of Japanese culture tend to think that because it's difficult to be open about that type of abuse in Japanese culture (it's getting SO much better btw) that I myself shouldn't be open and should instead be ashamed of it, so that's kinda strange too.
OFFLINE though, I went through a period where I hid the Japanese part, because we have a large Asian elderly community where I live, and they're mostly non-Japanese, and upon hearing I'm half Japanese, they will tell me bad things Japanese people did in the war or how Japanese culture stole their food and language, while I'm standing there trying not to cry, and will say things like "You're half, you can still be saved" and it just hurts.
THEN there are fellow Asian people who will call any of us who don't agree to be mad like them "White Worshipers" so that's fun too.
There is good and bad in everything, so Asian people and non-Asian people will have varying opinions on this. I saw two Asian people in the comments who would probably disagree with me, and that's OKAY. Everyone has their own opinions. I have enough negativity in my brain, I'm not gonna willingly be mad at them for having differing opinions ❤️
EDIT: I JUST posted this like ten minutes ago, but of course this doesn't touch on every nuance. That would take a whole entire video that's HOURS long for myself or others to do. This is just a quick peek into some of what I think, and I'm just ONE person, not the spokesperson for any particular nuance 😁😁
That's all. This isn't to argue though, I'm just answering your question as honestly as I can ❤️❤️
5:15 I swear there's a copypasta about this except it's about Gen Z in the military in general...
Guys , while i was watching this video i watched a short of mike tyson talking about his past and his boxing life , i mean we shrink in comparison , our society needs more men like mike maybe not exactly the same but goddammit we to live in the reality
Man you are kind of right about the creeps out there
the whole cultural appropriation argumentはcancel culture以上にアホだと思う
Don’t lie Fox, you really enjoyed doing your research on these subjects 🙈
Those thirst traps almost got me to sign up for duty 😭
@@FoxAkimbo Ah shieet Fox going into the IDF for a pink hair girl with cat ears. A moment of silence for another fallen brother 🫡
Epic video epic watched all and was epic interesting
im very interested in seeing what you have to say about this topic
You went to Brighton beach in the recent weather for an intro? That's commitment!
So has anyone else noticed literally EVERYONE else on UA-cam is now trying to do their own version of this video? 😂
Havin been in the military I can confidently say that we're more than diversified Maybe not many rich people and also remember if you want to live by the sword .......
E-Girls was actually a J-Pop girl group who debuted in 2011 and disbanded in 2020.
My issue with "cultural appropriation" is that every race and future is guilty of it. And if one type is offensive, then it is a offensive. So where does it stop? Do we a stick to our own culture, looks, the way we dress? The world has always taken aspects of other cultures and it seems we are all guilty of it to a degree.
As for infanillzation, women are told from a very young age that growing older is bad and no body will want you of you do, that's not a EGirl issue, that's a women's issue put on is by men, who who can age as they want.
I didn’t realize that adopting an aesthetic that was similar to anime and manga characters was somehow asianfishing. I guess every anime/manga cosplayer in exist is somehow appropriating.
I thought Fox Akimbo was appropriating Rick Astley's aesthetic.
Fox Rickroll
Oh, you're in Brighton! Colour me jealous (:
Another Banger from the one and only Fox Akimbo!!!
Also it doesn't really matter how many follows someone has since we'll all end up in the same place in the end
2:42 If the "influencer" has so few morals that they would say yes to being an obvious propaganda arm of their local government, that says all I need to know about them. I'm not against Governments in general, but if the "influencer" is going to accept money to trick impressionable youths(which is exactly what they are doing), then that's on them. And I personally believe that each and every one of them should have to spend an hour a day looking at the photos of everyone who dies from their "influence".
19:36 It's not just the clothes. If it were just the clothes then the argument would be valid as to if the person just likes to dress that way. Context is key here. And part of the context is how one acts while dressed in those clothes. If one is acting in a sexual manner while dressed in these infantile or revealing outfits, then they are intentionally sexualizing the look. I am not saying that it okay to go after them for this. But in most cases they are old enough to understand what they are doing. And trying to make the argument "I just like the clothes" becomes disingenuous. Just be honest as to why one is doing it. We all know sex sells.
Truly devious deeds.
Good lord I'm getting old. Back in the days of 33.6k dial up internet all you had was nerds & l33t speak to contend with. Years later I still don't know what l33t is! Ah the good old days when twitch was what you got after drinking too much coffee ☕
5:00 In reality you wake up in a POW camp and they torture you for information before killing you
FINALLY, SOMEBODY REALISTIC
I simp for old school RuneScape high risk pking, not dime a dozen what are they putting in the milk e girls strutting the stuff like it’s not going on the clearance rack anytime soon, clutch ya purse and ballsack my dudes, much love. 👌🏻
Ooh, two e-girl videos in as many days.This and now WavyWebSurfs video on the topic. But which is better? There's only one way to find out....FIIIII(I kid. Both great content creators)
I was gonna say I just noticed wavywebsurf upload his egirl video, what a coincidence haha
Hmmm interesting now Turkey Tom