@Put Bluntly how did u assume?🤦🏻♀️ it's really sad some people feel like they HAVE to say negative things even ig there is literally nothing wrong with the video, like why are u saying this??!
@Put Bluntly You: "Because they HAVE TO respect other Muslims. If there were non-muslims there they'd be very rude to them. And call then uneducated." You literally minutes later: "You're a liar." "You're very misinformed." Seems like you're projecting lol.
Some people force women to wear it and some people force women to take it off. The problem is always the same: people that want to dictate how women should dress
When you said it was almost like a sisterhood, you actually made a good observation friend! That's actually a part of the faith. Believers in Islam are taught to be brothers and sisters in religion.
This is the thing that I really want for my people in Africa 🥺🤧. This is one of our biggest flaws (if you disagree with them, you became their enemies)
@@olimukanya I'm sorry :( that is a really unfortunate thing. I think many Americans have started to become that way as well. We can learn a lot from these women about respect and friendship in humanity.
@@wafamohammd1337when it comes to Islam our personal opinions don't matter We don't have our own personal interpretations of the Qur'an The rightly guided ulama of the past have interpreted the Qur'an for us
Well it is about hijabs so its fair. I would love to see priests from different religions that would be interesting. Like Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism, ect.
It really isn't, the title is do hijab opress women? Then they continue to invite 6 women who do not believe it does. At that point you aren't having a discussion you are circle jerking. The correct way was to keep the 3 girls wearing hijabs and invite 3 non Muslim women who believe women who wear hijabs are being opressed. Then they can both explain how they feel and why and have a conversation.
@@logically2761 chill, men also have the same guidelines and are also told to lower their gaze. But your comment touches more on Islamic culture than religious matters.
@@logically2761 Let me add by saying that I agree where Muslim communities (Islamic culture) need to change their perception of raising boys and girls at the same standards. however, Islam itself (religious matters) doesn't teach how to raise children, rather it tells what to teach yourself (and kids, I suppose. These things include prayer, zakat, fasting, etc). Modest dress isn't wholly for women's protection (though it does add to some degree, from my experience) but instead helps build a greater connection to your faith as you focus from materialism to religious devotion to God. So don't get me wrong here, I agree but you're also lacking some context in your comment too.
this is the first time I've seen MUSLIM WOMEN debate on hijab and not a bunch of random old white men. I’m French and every other Thursday French news shows bring in these "experts" (old white men and women) to talk about how hijab is oppressive and how it doesn’t belong in France. The one time they brought in a young Muslim hijabi woman, she absolutely decimated their arguments and then never got invited again. Thank you Jubilee for giving these women a platform.
@Xen0taku4 race and gender matters because it is something that affects muslim women and not old white men, they've never experienced it so their opinion shouldn't be given more importance than a muslim womans opinion
i think this is actually the best middle ground ive seen so far, i havent seen them all but ive been going on a binge recently and it seemed less like two "opposing sides" being pit against each other and more like different members within a community being brought to share their lived experiences
@@Bewefau i made this comment over a year ago now so i apologize if i say anything that contradicts with the video, but the term "middle ground" means that compromise can be met. a lot of the time, there tends to be hostility within the videos of this series because either one or both sides feels directly attacked by the other side and sometimes it feels like a middle ground is never really found and things just end on a sour note. all i'm getting at is that it's nice to be able to see human beings extending kindness and being understanding to people even if they have different stances on a topic that they take seriously
When I was in high school a boy did exactly what was described in the video, he ran behind a girl and pulled down her hijab. She was crying and traumatized. And the boy was suspended, rightfully so.
That happened to me. I was absolutely and utterly disgusting by the boy. There was a group of girls that surrounded her so she could get her hijab back on. It was cool to be a part of, but also I wish it didn’t happen, because I felt so bad for the poor girl. The boy got suspended for three days
@@Tony.S420 hijab is like a covering for me. i dont want anybody and by that i mean *ANYBODY* who isnt my mahram (people who im allowed to not wear hijab around) see my hair. I like being covered and nobody forced me. When someone takes it off it makes me feel like ive been stripped and its shameful. She may have felt the same. Even if you put it back on it doesnt mean they havent seen it.
@Black that clarifies that u know nothing about prophet mohammad and u literally cuz no respect i believe in jesus too just not the way u do see the difference?
@@jmorale7798 they don't focus on these facts they disregard facts and actually backed up evidence for a book that was made for rich people to get richer
Abu Hurairah (RAA) narrated that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: “Do not initiate the saluting of Jews and Christians (when you meet them), and if you meet any of them on the road, force him to go to the narrowest part of the road (i.e. do not give way for them to pass, but keep going). English reference : Book 16, Hadith 1489 Arabic reference : Book 16, Hadith 1445
When I was 9, my mum came up to me and asked me if I wanted to wear the hijab. I told her, yes, I want to wear it. My mum wore it after she had gotten married and my sister had worn it starting at 9 too. And I was brought up very close to Islam. I wanted to wear it. Later, my sister was getting married. My mum told me that I shouldn't wear my hijab for the wedding. I would look better. I looked at her confused and incredulous. I told her no. I told her I had made my decision those years ago and I wasn't going to back out of it just when it became beneficial or convenient to me. I was 11 when this happened. She smiled and laughed and nodded her head and said, alright. For me, hijab has never been a burden, thankfully. It is a part of who I am.
Wow you're soo cool..Im 14 and still tryna get used to wearing it..but in my country its so hot in summer...and i am more sweaty than most other people...whenever I wore hijab to go to school, i caught cold after some days because of the excessive sweating..Please pray for me sis😷
@@zohamaryam6671 Lol, don't worry, you're not the only one with the sweating thing. And hijab takes time to get used to, don't stress over that ;) InshAllah you'll grow used to it soon and will get over your bad immunity lol
_" I told her, yes, I want to wear it. "_ was that *_before_* or *_after_* you found out that not wearing it could potentially lead to consequences and mount up to sins which you're going to be punished in the afterlife for?
@@logically2761 Muslim men are not even allowed to look at another girl accept their wives! Hijab isn’t just about protecting women, it's something that makes Muslim women feel confident. It makes them feel empowered.
@@kazimd.shabbirfaisal1865 Ikr? Both Muslim men and women are called to guard their gaze and men have clothing guidelines too (eg: knees are to be covered).
OH MY GOD!!!!!! Yes!!!!! As a Atheist who used to be Christian I would love to see that, I would love to be able to see people who went through the same journey and struggle as me and people who went through the opposite journey.
pretty B probably true. I also feel like most Christians that used to be Atheists were raised Christian and then became atheist before going back to it, which doesn’t really count.
@@pretty948 honestly, yeah but there’s shockingly so many people changing religion for their spouse. Mostly from another religion. So maybe not. Tho I have never met one before nor will ever meet one honestly
Momo's Bangs are lifeu oooooo that would be amazing. Probably would be one of the least.... respectful I guess videos of them all but it would be so interesting
”being mean is a sin too” is such a small but often overlooked and simple truth. religion is so often weaponized and used against individuals in a way that just drains it of its purpose which is creating fulfillment and purpose.
@@animeboiscute7204 well you're right but no one should EVER shame women for naturally having hair. I understand that being modest make some women feel safe and some feel caged on modest clothes. To each to their own lol.
Ik this was like 2 years ago but this video resonates with me a lot because I was a non hijabi before so I can definitely sympathize with non hijabi’s on how harsh the community is towards non hijabi’s and now as a hijabi I also agree on how others ruin the hijab experience for us because they are very careless with their words. Respect to everyone in this video, love how everyone was respectful
they needed a women who actually followed the deen correctly to talk. majority scholors agree if you wear pants and a headscarf you are not a hijabi. they brought jad who knew his deen. im waiting for more to come. idk why people in the comments are praising them
I was honestly so scared that his video was going to be muslim women, or women in general, being pinned against eachother and I'm so happy that it wasn't and that it was a more accurate representation of how real muslim women actually are
This is one of the most respectful discussion I've seen in these videos. I'm currently very interested in Islam and this makes me love the religion even more.
As a non-Muslim woman, this was the most educational and the most respectful conversation I have ever seen on the topic. It's so hard to start a conversation about a controversial topic without instantly being labeled as being on one of the extreme ends of the spectrum, but this calm conversation between women who respect each other and respect their faith was a breath of fresh air. Thank you to all the participants, and thank you to Jubilee for providing a platform for these conversations to exist!
@Lol Bruh exactly!! you dont have to do what you have done yesterday anyway. you have to respect others also coz you know QURAN 109:1-6!! AS SIMPLE AS THAT!! you dont have to be agressive towards others !! okay brother!! have a nice jummah!!
To all the Muslim girls out there who read this, who think wearing Hijab is empowering. the few percent who were privileged enough to born and raised in a different country that doesn't rule under Sharia Law. the ones who choosing Islam without knowing what it is, because they can! and ignoring the rest of the Muslim Women who suffer based on what is written in the Quran. from not having the choice to divorce, not having the choice to wear what they want. not have the choice to keep the children after divorce, get raped by their husbands, being a 4th wife, haven't the right to raise their children after the divorce. can't disobey her mahrams such as his father, brother, husband, son otherwise can get beaten to death or get killed. get stoned to death, count as half of the man! , get referred to as a land, being unable to sing.... and this is just the tip of the iceberg. what are they defending? thousand years of humiliation under the name of god? let's face it what they defending is their identity, it is their personal view on something that is faaaaaaaaar from Islam! because they longing to belong somewhere to keep their identity! what they practicing is something else than Islam! it is a mystic Sufism thing that has nothing to do with Islam! Know what you are defending, The least you can do for your religion is to read The Quran, please read it and see if you still defending it . To whom they want to know more I write some of the ayahs. I repeat I will not accept any explanation since it mentions five times in Quran that we brought this book simple. so everyone will understand. al-Baqarah 228-223-282-221-230 an-Nisa 3-11-15-24-25-34-176 an-Nur 6-31 al-Ahzab 59-28-29-33-37-50-51-52-53 at-Taghabun 14 al-Tahrim 1
@@chapavolgar I feel like you need to understand what the verses actually meant a bit more, not tryna be mean or something just saying that you probably have miss understood the verses 😅
@Good Guy are you good? Are u trying to convert to Islam or something cause you have been very dedicated to comment on this video seems like u a fan :)) it’s okay we will accept u if u join 💗
@Good Guy you commented many times in such a disrespectful way. could you please re question your actions and maybe try to learn about this beautiful religion? thank you
I just wanted to say this. In Degrassi on Netflix, it shows two sides of Muslim young ladies. One who doesn't follow the "Traditional" rules and one who does. It showed how both are happy, whatever they choose. I know this is completely unrelated to your comment but this video made me remember that.
I am thinking about dropping out of school to focus on my career as a star on UA-cam. I already make a lot of money on UA-cam. School bores me so much. I need more opinions and since I don't have any friends, I gotta ask you, esna
@@AxxLAfriku Don't drop out. You'll feel proud for finishing what you started. I personally dropped out at the finish line at my 11th year in school (I live in Norway where we don't have our schools set up the same way, so it wouldn't make sense for me to say high school or college or whatever it would have been in America), which I now regret. I wish I at least would have finished just two more years, just to have that certification to make it *A LOT* easier to not only get a job, but a good job I actually would enjoy doing for however many years. Sometimes what we want in life doesn't work out like we maybe thought it would, and sometimes we get tired of what we're doing and want to change careers. Then it's so much easier to navigate the job market. It'll also help to instill you with a more patient attitude, and also giving you the sense of being able to push through towards the end goal. To not quit what you started. Now, I know everyone is different so what's right for me wouldn't be right for everyone else as well obiviously, but still. I just think it's good to push through what's boring now, but still is going to serve you great in the future. Even with doing youtube/social media I'm sure it would be easier to make it even better if you finish the school experience "properly". Just my two cents.
It’s just wild that women are expected to go out of their way to “protect” themselves and cover themselves up when we could just simply teach men not to hurt women. It’s actually insane
@@erin29344 then you also realize even if a woman is fully covered she STILL ISN'T SAFE from those kinda men. atleast teaching them from childhood to respect women would help.
cheaters will always exist, killers will always exist, abusers will always exist, racism will always exist, rapists will always exist. fighting for something that is part of the disrupted human nature can't be untaught or unlearned. a child isn't born as a killer, abuser or rapist. teach them all you want, they'll still do it. you're living a bubble that'll never do reality justice. instead of letting your daughter do whatever she wants and solely hope that men out there will change, you're actually the one that's insane.
Exactly!! Women can wear whatever they want! They can wear a bag over their face or they can wear a see-through mini skirt. Both are equal. If men have a problem with that, it's mens problem! The religion is only a brainwash power control by worthless men who don't know how else to be in power but to control women. Such sheep.
@Good Guy desert what? What does culture have anything to do with religion? You do know deserts are widely located in north africa, not in the middle east, so why are you assuming a whole religion has something to do with "desert culture"? You seem a little uneducated, so take a break maybe, its best for you.
Occidental muslim, lol, they are saying a lot of stuff that is just untrue. It's a discussion about how it is to live as a muslim in a different country. Being muslim in a muslim country is very different
@I'm in Pain huh yes really. I do not know for all countries, but i can confirm for morocco, liban, syria, algeria. Being a muslim in a muslim country is harder than anywhere else, there is social pressure, you're expected to be in a certain way, which is not the case in the usa. And even between every muslim countries the experience is different. Some countries are more strict some more just other have more social pressure, family pressure etc...
It was just a piece of cloth that people were wearing in the desert, and now it has become a political identity. We need to use our limited time to talk more about freedom and not about simple things as clothes. Freeeeeeeeeedoooom
punishment of the grave. There are many narrations which verify its authenticity. One such narration is: The Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) said, "Seek Allaah's protection from the Punishment of the Grave, since the Punishment of the Grave is a fact/true." (Saheeh: At-Tabraanee in 'al-Kabeer' from Umm Khaalid bint Khaalid ibn Sa'eed ibn al-'Aas.) Our righteous predecessors have mentioned many stories in this regard, some of which are as follows: Ibn Abi'd Dunya (rahimahullah) mentioned that one of his companions said, “My brother died and I saw him in a dream. I said, "How was it when you were placed in your grave?" He replied, "Someone brought me a fiery flame and if it had not been that someone else made supplication for me, I think he would have hit me with it.” ("The Soul journey after death" an abridgement of Ibn al-Qayyim's kitabar-ruh.) Bashar b. Ghalib (rahimahullah) said, “I saw Rabia, on whose behalf I make frequent supplication, in a dream. She said to me, "Bashar b. Ghalib! Your gifts have been brought to me on plates of light, covered in silken cloths." I asked, "How can that be?" She replied, "That is what the supplication of living believers is like. When they make supplication for a dead person, that supplication is answered for them on plates of light, veiled in silken cloths. Then they are brought to the dead person for whom the supplication was said and they are told, 'This is the gift of so-and-so to you.'” ” ("The Soul journey after death" an abridgement of Ibn al-Qayyim's kitabar-ruh.) Amr bin Dinar (rahimahullah) said “The sister of one of the men of Medina died and he buried her. When he came back from the burial, he remembered that he had left something in the grave. He asked one of his companions to help him. His companion related that they had dug up the grave and found what they were looking for. Then the man said, "Let us dig further and find out what has happened to my sister." He lifted up one of the stones covering the burial cavity and found the grave filled with fire. He replaced it and filled in the grave again. Then he returned to his mother and asked, "What was my sister really like?" She replied, "Why do you ask about her when she is dead?" He said, "Tell me." She said, "She used to delay the prayer and she also used to go to our neighbours' doors, put her ear to them, and then tell other people what they said." ("The Soul journey after death" an abridgement of Ibn al-Qayyim's kitabar-ruh.)
It is not required. So it is not oppressive. They have the mental conditions if they think they need to wear something they are not required to wear. You will be helping a kookoo.
Mariam I honestly find muslim/arab modesty refreshing even if they don’t wear a hijab, when a women is conservative in any religion is just beautiful and real confidence and a good push back to Godless mainstream America that is sexually perverted.
@Matthew C. according to US law, the hair is not a sexual part of the body. In countries under shariah law, it may well be sexual assault. But not in the US Edit: additionally a perpetrator may be charged with hate crimes
this is like the only middle ground episode where no one pissed me off lol everyone was so respectful :) most episodes always have that one annoying person !
I have to say... this might be the most respectful, community-minded and loving conversation I've seen on this site. And it really warms my heart to see these women talking to one another in this way. I am not a muslim, but I have studied it, and I have friends who wear hijab, and it's really lovely to get a peek into this culture in this way.
the chemistry between them all is amazing, they don’t seem like strangers but rather like they’ve been friends for years. i hope they all stay in touch after this video
I think what the guests on the show are missing are the rules There are a lot rules in Islam there are things are haram for men and not for women and there are things that are haram for women and not for men and there things that are haram for both men and women altogether it depend on the rules. I think that is the reason American Muslims and feminist misunderstand about Islam
My wife is Nigerian from a mixed family, she is Catholic but has Muslim cousins. When we lived in KSA for about 15 years, she started wearing the hijab, abaya and niqab to “fit in” locally. Our daughters started attending Saudi schools in kindergarten, they wore the hijab like their fellow students and friends, and have continued into adulthood. It was their free choice, no,one forced them. Most of their friends are fellow Arabic-speaking Muslims; all of the hijabi we know make the choice voluntarily. It should not be forced on any woman, she should want it. This was a very respectful discussion.
Yaas , i wish there was something like that , i can relate too much , because i'm the same age Anyways , there is a channel isn youtube with the same concept : "Honesrt tea talk "
Right! I know so many adults 45+ that can never have mature discussions without insults due to different opinions. Age never really comes with age. It entirely depends on the individual.
@@knossostellel-amarna8502 As a free hijab-wearing Muslim woman with university education and successful career, single by choice, free to travel and Covid is the only thing stopping me, living in south east asia I must say... you're DEAD WRONG.
@@frfr0123 I think what Knossos is trying to say here is how some Americans are trying to forcibly take away the choice of wearing hijab in a country that supposedly brands itself as the 'land of the free'. But that's just my interpretation of their comment.
@@frfr0123 Not everywhere, in iran women who want to remove hijab can be penalised and the women who protest against hijab are even jailed, but of course the liberal media won't show it.
@@onewinter9411 Well that just applies to you, its not the same everywhere. In iran women who want to remove hijab can be penalised, and the women who protest against hijab are even jailed, but of course the liberal media won't show it.
When I was around 10 years old I was best friends with a Muslim girl (I am non-religious) and she was such a nice person, her parents were really nice to they introduced me to a lot of Muslim things. They allowed me to go with them to a mosque, I also tried on a hijab because I was curious. 1 time I also tried to join Ramadan, but I couldn't keep up I got super hungry (respect to everyone that can do it 💗). One time I got sick while I was with them and they treated me so nice. They also had amazing food. The sad thing is that she moved away and we lost contact, she will always remain in my memory though. I learned so much from them. I will never understand why people do not accept Muslims.
I also have a friend who I happens to be Muslim and she is one of the most amazing people I’ve ever meant. It saddens me that some people will not be able to have the awesome memories that I share with her just because she practices another religion.
It was just a piece of cloth that people were wearing in the desert, and now it has become a political identity. We need to use our limited time to talk more about freedom and not about simple things as clothes. Freeeeeeeeeedoooom
I’m not Muslim, I’m a Mexican baptized as Catholic as a baby who never got to complete her holy communion or confirmation. These women helped inspire me to continue on my journey to complete those two quests and to purchase a Mantilla which is a religious head covering that pertains to my culture and religion. You girls rock and thanks for the insight ☺️💕
I could talk about this topic for literally hours but I just want to say this one thing. If you are a Muslim woman and you do not wear the hijab, you are still a Muslim women to me. You are still my sister. We are all out here struggling, some people can wear the hijab and have the most disgusting character and not be connected towards their faith, while others may struggle to wear the hijab and have memorized the quran front to back. When it all comes down to it only Allah can judge us.
It was just a piece of cloth that people were wearing in the desert, and now it has become a political identity. We need to use our limited time to talk more about freedom and not about simple things as clothes. Freeeeeeeeeedoooom
That “kind racism” is real tho. People be like I can’t be ignorant cause I’m kind lol Edit: to people replying aight you can call it kind islamophobia/kind bigotry or whatever (yes I know islam is not a race) I just use the term because the girl use it when describing her experience
@@sevendaysaweek2622 It would be considered so by the people it comes from who are assuming islam is a race or that all people who follow are Of the same perceived race.
I’m a Catholic in a relationship with someone who is Muslim, I couldn’t be anymore proud of this 6 girls and how they represented their faith. The value they held to hijab and the chance they got to explain themselves. Certain western viewpoints can be extremely ignorant and counterproductive. So being respectful of everyone’s decisions is what matters 💖
@@darksharkk thank you for asking omg, sincerely my partner never asked me to, neither I think he will ever suggest it. We come from a little troubled backgrounds, and so neither of us are practising of our religions. Nonetheless we teach each other about both faiths and have realised how much in common there is. Would I ever convert ? Maybe no, but never say never, Islam is a beautiful religion and since being with him I have learnt a lot about it. I’m open spiritually to whatever gives me peace, but we are pretty much free spirits 💖 hope that answered it🥺
@@hsk4950 hi, I know you mean well, but when you say Westeen, as an Asian Muslim, I have to disagree. Westeen or Eastern, women can be generally strong minded. We are just shown as docile by the media. It is also the same problem non Muslim Asian have. Western men have this kink where they think Asian women are submissive. We are not.
As a Christian I'm so impressed to see that Muslims don't waver in their faith. They don't allow social deception and the need to fit in to compromise their faith. Her speech was much mature than any of them
So you don’t feel oppressed by wearing a hijab. So what? Theres still not a good explanation for wearing one even if you want to. It makes no sense, it was just made up by Muhammad.
maybe watch the video carefully and realize how embracing hijab has definite benefits...e.g. world is ever changing with people defining beauty and the whole chaos of how being beautiful or sexy gives unfair advantage and how people have to work hard to maintain their physique. like for example, the pressure of having abs when wearing crop tops or having big or small boobs when wearing low fitted tops. wearing hijab and modest clothing is so easy and effortless, more time spent on educating yrself and bringing out yr personality and mind more than yr body. and anyways its not like we were forced...we definitely have a choice on whether we want to wear hijab or not 🧕🥳🤷♀️ for me, hijab is an option given to me. seeing the benefits like convenience and focusing on personal growth than my appearance, well im taking it haha
@Kiara van Wendel it doesn't make sense to the world. The world changed and evolved. Jews and christians also wore headscarfs, but after WW2 people became less religious and more modern. The religion adepted, islam however does not. Islam is followed most strictly without compromise, even if it brings alot of trouble. That is why people are against it. They want progress, not the reverse. We have seen in Turkey what happens when islamists take over. Or pakistan. Or indonesia.
@@ramy8338 not really, women wear hijab to cover most of their beauty. so she knows it doesn't show all of her beauty and it'll only show to her partner. she's aware of it and accepting it. that's how it was intended to be.
I respect how she quoted the Quran about being modest and covering up and I like how she said it’s better but it’s doesn’t make you better than anyone else
Indeed doesn't, modesty and purity is something you have inside of you, in your heart, the covering is most to not attract attention of those weak men that can't control themselves, modesty has nothing to do with you covering, i have seen covered women with a ton of makeup and some of them even smoking on street, were they less modest in that case? According to their theory, yes, according to mine no.
But she quoted it wrong. جيوبmeans breasts not hair, the Hadith in which the prophet tells aisha only her face and hands should appear is weak, and you guys would only disagree if you are Saudi or don't read Quran well enough
who said that Muslims are only Arabs? what about Turks? what about Iranians?Afghans?Syrians! why they bring all of their guests from privileged Islamic countries that don't even run base on Sharia Law!! cause what they are talking about is not Islam! It is Islam base on their personal preference. The Real Hijab is in Quran. while it refers to women as their man's land. that if they disobey beat them. that their brain is half of the man. and you can take them as slaves ... Read the book. Know what you are representing. and know that you are all non-Muslims wearing hijab! p.s: for brave Muslim girls out there... it mentions 5 times that we brought this book simple. so everyone can understand if you wanna bring any other example against that it has to be in Quran!
What Faatimah said at 3:44 is relatable ... "When it comes to behavior [in the Muslim community], I find that rituals take precedence over behaviors a lot of the time..." It's crazy how that sentiment is so applicable to religious communities at large, no matter what you believe in. I resonate very strongly with that sentiment as an ex-Catholic. It's why I decided to leave the church years ago.
@Good Guy you say you're a Muslim then go around calling burqas gross? If you are gonna write comments at least let them make sense , or do us a favour and not write them at all lol
@Good Guy dude, this is niqab and its traditional clothes 😁 like by telling me its a “gorss burqa” youve just placed last in the kindergarten insulting contest. if you were ever in the desert, youd wanna wear smth to cover your face too tho, but then by being an internet troll you wont have time to go out of the house anyways. Peace ✌🏽
I love how they basically didn't disagree with anything. They were just voicing their grievances and frustration. Lol. It was like a group of friends getting together.
@@Roguenight863 maybe muslim women share a lot more opinions than people think. Maybe that's the takeaway from this video. People think that if a muslim woman wears a hijab, she's oppressed and if she doesn't, she's rebellious. This videos shows that being a Muslim woman isn't always the extremes. Also, an echo chamber has a negative connotation. You're suggesting that this conversation was a negative one, but most people think that it was a positive. So yeah, stfu.
@@bs4e an echo chamber is an environment where a person only encounters information or opinions that reflect and reinforce their own. If that's not what those women were in then I would like to hear your opinion. And if you have seen other Jubilee content, then you would know how often disagreements happen.
I know it’s not on the topic, but it would be interesting having woman who didn’t wear hijab, wore hijab and wore the full face covering (I’m sorry I’m unsure what it’s called). Would be an interesting conversation:)
@@mack3028 you mean the full face and then you can see the eyes hijab? Cuz all of that is just hijab. It may be different ways but all of them are just hijab.
There were two sides lol? Didn’t notice. If they really wanted to get both sides they should have had women who has taken the Hijab off and been persecuted for it. They purposely got people who would more or less agree so they didn’t offend their chosen audience.
I was born and raised as a Muslima and I had struggled with this topic pretty much. And now that I'm convinced Abt wearing it, I was surprised that my parents are still not convinced Abt me wearing it because for them the hijab is modesty and I already dress think and act in a modest way but hiding the hair for them is more like a harder choice that I should make when I'm way more older and more mature. And I'm totally against that, because as Muslim parents I expected them to actually encourage me more in this topic. But the thing here is that we should never obligate any human being to do something as long as it doesn't affect other people in a BAD way. For exemple, if a woman is convinced about wearing hijab, why would you attack her ? She doesn't hurt anybody. And if a woman doesn't wear the hijab then it's also her choice. People who know nothing Abt religion starts to negociate Abt this and say things like : We know you were obligated or something but NO, just why would you do that ? Why wouldn't you mind your own business?
@@supremebrother I actually started wearing it Monday. I like it quite a bit (even tho my parents are still against the idea) but Yeah Alhamdoulilah I finally took the risk :)
You make a very solid point. I oppose the Hijab since I think it's not a clear statement in the Quran however your point of everyone should just have their own choice and not be obligated to do either is perfect. My wife is struggling with this subject and I tell her I will love her regardless.
Jannah was definitely the best in this debate since she really did differentiate between her personal choices and the teachings of islam. A beautiful soul!
But she openly accepts she's sinning and goes on to justify it by saying it's because America is the most sinful country on Earth. That's not a good defence. She could drink whiskey all day and say the same thing.
in pisslam you can breastfeed adult 10 times haha Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi that Salim ibn Abdullah ibn Umar informed him that A'isha umm al-muminin sent him away while he was being nursed to her sister Umm Kulthum bint Abi Bakr as-Siddiq and said, "Suckle him ten times so that he can come in to see me." Salim said, "Umm Kulthum nursed me three times and then fell ill, so that she only nursed me three times. I could not go in to see A'isha because Umm Kulthum did not finish for me the ten times." USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 30, Hadith 7 Arabic reference : Book 30, Hadith 1281
Jubilee, y’all rocked the casting in this one. I’m a Protestant Christian and I felt like I learned a lot - and I loved each of these ladies! Enjoyed this Middle Ground so much!
Why are so many young Muslim debating about these things and ALL of them are saying “I think” “I believe” “for me” it’s not about them Islam is not about them. It’s not about your beliefs. It’s about what Islam says. They can just read the Quran and understand why things are that way. Instead of using their own mind to say why. When the book already says why. Again islam doesn’t change for you. You change for Islam.
@@eldawansy1129 Interesting. Is this according to the Qur'an, or is this more of a cultural thing? And is the "dress code" the same as men's or different? Thanks for your comment.
i adore every single woman in this episode. they’re all the most respectful people ever and can “argue” about any opposing views in a calm, mature way. plus they all got on so well with each other i loved it
@@user-xu4lz4np1k I have watched the whole thing, and the girls are super kind and sweet. Despite Islam they can find a way to be tolerant... maybe because they live in a free country. It wouldn't be so pretty in an islamist country.
@Good Guy You're trying to prove in your so-called brilliant mind that Muslims are bad ? That's why you are spreading hate and being disrespectful, right? You want someone to come up to say bad things to you, and you think you'll be right. LOL. You should respect. And others respect you too. But you can't expect others to do so and talk good if your behaviors towards them are bad. Your words about Allah are nothing. You can go for more brutal hardcore insults, but it should be a shame when your insults doesn't make Allah weak or something. I just hope you understand someday that we all in this together. Religion, race, sexual orientation… It doesn't matter. We need to respect eachother.
Right? I wish I was raised a little different and was explained that I don't have to dress more openly for people to like me, as well as waiting for the right person to share your bed with is so much more fulfilling than rushing into it. My life would have been so much more different and I can surely say, it would be so much better
modesty does not make you a better or worse woman. dressing modesty doesn’t earn you more respect and not dressing “modestly” does not take any respect away from woman. woman should be free to wear and dress however they want, no argument. if you think that not being “modest” gives you less respect, please get help.
Here is my opinion on the "hijab is oppressive" thing: If nudity is a choice so is modesty Edit: ty for 1.9k likes I just wanted to share my opinion and ig everyone agrees! ❤️
Absolutely! I couldn’t agree more. It is only oppressive to those who do not choose to wear it and have it forced on that. That is not Islam however, that is the culture.
I just want to clear something it's not a choice it's something Allah said wemen should do so the word "optional" doesn't exist if you choose not to wear it, that's absolutely okay no one can force you but in the same time don't say it's optional do whatever you want but in the same time you should know that's a sin. And after i said that i would get a lot of hate here and people would call me extreme but guys it wasn't me who told the women to wear it, Allah did so when i tell you that hijab is a must i am not forcing you or oppress you, if Allah said it then it's a must if you don't do then it's "your" choice.... I am not trying to do anything or judge just... "hijab isn't optional" it's a choice. What i mean is if you wear it then you did what Allah said and if not you go against what Allah said hope you understand
@@yaserahmed4829 Not to be rude my man...But it's really strange to hear people say "Allah said so" when allah is pretty much defined as an all powerful entity that's neither material nor spiritual. Somehow miraculously, that said entity sends his "messages" to a human being who spreads his apparent messages. Believing in a divine power is one thing, but that divine power telling humans how to conduct themselves is far too convinient.
@@yaserahmed4829 You seem to have entirely missed my point. So let me ask you a question instead. Why do you think what's written in the Qur'an is the message from Allah (who is neither a spiritual nor a material entity)? Aren't you merely believing the word of a man who said so?
I have Christian friends and also A Muslim friend who doesn’t wear a hijab. I’m also a Muslim hijabi :) Also, I have a friend who’s Christian who also likes BTS😳 What if you’re that friend?
I find Jannah the most honest & direct with her speech. She is aware what Islam teaches. Her points is directly linked with Quran sayings, rather than what your opinion/thoughts says.
@Flávio Sousa but for Muslims (I’m not a Muslim so idk for sure) they live their life by the teachings of the Quran, so for them whatever it says is a fact
I was raised Christian and remember reading in the Bible technically we are supposed to cover our hair as well. I Always wondered why we didn’t. Especially my family since modesty was pushed hard on us young females.
People pick and choose what part of scripture they follow and to what extent and how they interpret what is written. Heads of religion are no different. They choose what they want to teach others they interpret what they think it means and preach. meaning they choose what is given greater importance and what should and shouldn't be followed and what actions are considered following and what isn't.
Why can't the actual world be THIS respectful when talking to each other. It's because of mob mentality, because when you are this close to someone else with a different point of view in a group, most become afraid of being the "bad guy".
@@arkay848 little thinker there. Claiming that is clearly showing ur ignorance. Then why the hell u must wear a single clothe then? Have you ever born with a single fabric to cover your body? They have the right to cover what part they want to cover if that makes them feel comfortable..so do you and everybody
@@khusbukhatun6817 ofcourse it's not a culture but Muslims take it too far sometimes. It is mostly because of the radicals who don't know much about their own religion in the first place
Sabahat saying that people came rioting to her school when she was probably 10 years old is really sad, we need to stop associating the actions of certain individuals to an entire community and population and using it as an excuse to hurt people or be racist (islamophobic in this case) when they had nothing to do with the actions of someone else. (edited for grammatical reasons)
Abel A when they say that, they are talking about Arabians and it doesn’t have to be a race for it to be call racist, it can also be any group people search up the definition of racism.
@@ann-maryn1232 well no, it does have to be about a certain race/ethnicity for it to be racist lol. That’s why you don’t call someone who is sexist a racist because they’re not the same thing. Also, your statement would also contradict this belief since you admitted it would be about Arabs...
Aven Brown well here the definition from google. racism is prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
as a christian woman, i’m so happy that when i was younger, i chose to learn about other religions because (yes it is the bare minimum) i get to teach other people why what they’re saying is wrong. there are two muslim girls in my school and i saw a guy take off her scarf. it’s not even my religion and i’ve never been more infuriated in my life, thank gosh i was wearing a jacket because i took it off and gave it to her so she could go to the bathroom and put her scarf back on. i screamed at the guy and i was the one who got in trouble? i was the one who got in trouble because i was “causing a distraction”. the boy had no repercussions, and it still infuriates me to this day.
I love how they talk to each others, very humble and warm.
Jesus is Lord
@Put Bluntly how did u assume?🤦🏻♀️ it's really sad some people feel like they HAVE to say negative things even ig there is literally nothing wrong with the video, like why are u saying this??!
@Put Bluntly He did look up Roman evidence.
@Put Bluntly You: "Because they HAVE TO respect other Muslims. If there were non-muslims there they'd be very rude to them. And call then uneducated."
You literally minutes later: "You're a liar." "You're very misinformed."
Seems like you're projecting lol.
@Put Bluntly jesus peace be apon him exist if u want to respect respect then all of us or go.
Some people force women to wear it and some people force women to take it off. The problem is always the same: people that want to dictate how women should dress
Exactlyyyyy!!!! Leave women alone!! We are powerful on our own.
It becomes a real problem when the people dictating women on what they wear are women themselves
Specifically men
I don’t know if women are forced to wear it
YES. OUR BODIES OUR CHOICE
I felt like this was almost a sisterhood. They didn't agree, but they genuinely cared about the opinions that were shared.
When you said it was almost like a sisterhood, you actually made a good observation friend! That's actually a part of the faith. Believers in Islam are taught to be brothers and sisters in religion.
@@yigitorhan7654 true ❤️ it’s beautiful to see
@Good Guy May Allah forgive you and guide you to the right path. Ameen ya rabb
This is the thing that I really want for my people in Africa 🥺🤧.
This is one of our biggest flaws
(if you disagree with them, you became their enemies)
@@olimukanya I'm sorry :( that is a really unfortunate thing. I think many Americans have started to become that way as well. We can learn a lot from these women about respect and friendship in humanity.
i love how respectful they all were to each other even when they had different opinions
Yes it was really nice to hear them speak like that. This is exactly what represents Muslims, we respect others opinion and talk kindly.
@@wafamohammd1337 not really, maybe u like that but most muslims in the world aint like that
@@mokakuma7329 I agree, not everyone is the same.
@@wafamohammd1337when it comes to Islam our personal opinions don't matter
We don't have our own personal interpretations of the Qur'an
The rightly guided ulama of the past have interpreted the Qur'an for us
@@wafamohammd1337except idolators.
Can we just thank Jubilee for giving Muslim WOMEN a chance to speak on their experiences without calling us oppressed.
Well it is about hijabs so its fair. I would love to see priests from different religions that would be interesting. Like Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism, ect.
@@quirkiebean793 they made a vid like that but I cannot remember the title
@@quirkiebean793 thats interesting itd be cool to see Abrahamic religions compared to other poly religibs
Yeah this video was really amazing, it opened my eyes on things I completely ignored
I'm sorry that you are oppressed.
THIS is how a discussion should be.
better than "that's not vegan"?
@@AshG321M omg erin 🤣🤣
@@AshG321M lmao right 😂
It really isn't, the title is do hijab opress women? Then they continue to invite 6 women who do not believe it does. At that point you aren't having a discussion you are circle jerking. The correct way was to keep the 3 girls wearing hijabs and invite 3 non Muslim women who believe women who wear hijabs are being opressed. Then they can both explain how they feel and why and have a conversation.
EXACTLY
I just freakin love Jubilee for bringing conversations like this to a wider audience
Me too!!!😝😝
@Good Guy
Bruh
Same!
@ what??
@Good Guy what religion r u
I love the fact how they are so polite with each other, accepting. No animosity.
@blueredblew9581what do they have to do with anything
@blueredblew9581they aren’t muslim though, theyre an extremist political group against Islam.
@@abdullahal-mamun1053he is a cheep just saying what he heard on tv, that's it he had to put it out there for the sake of doing so
They don’t talk over each other and respect each other’s opinion. Ugh I love them.
the "ugh" was cringe, thats why I disliked your comment
@@addbioshockasachapterindea345 okay?? Like just stfu
@@addbioshockasachapterindea345 ur comment is way cringier than her ugh 😂
@@thecrunshypancake5661 how was it cringe?
@@addbioshockasachapterindea345 idk just the fact that u said u disliked her comment was enough cringe for me 😂
Okay but everyone in this is so smart, respectful, humble, and kind
Who will tell them?
That Modest dressing ain't the right way to protect women but raising your sons with the right attitude does.....🙆🏼♀️🤷🏻♀️🤦🏾♀️
@@logically2761 chill, men also have the same guidelines and are also told to lower their gaze. But your comment touches more on Islamic culture than religious matters.
Okay butt
@@logically2761 Let me add by saying that I agree where Muslim communities (Islamic culture) need to change their perception of raising boys and girls at the same standards. however, Islam itself (religious matters) doesn't teach how to raise children, rather it tells what to teach yourself (and kids, I suppose. These things include prayer, zakat, fasting, etc). Modest dress isn't wholly for women's protection (though it does add to some degree, from my experience) but instead helps build a greater connection to your faith as you focus from materialism to religious devotion to God. So don't get me wrong here, I agree but you're also lacking some context in your comment too.
@@logically2761 get a life how many comments you reply the same thing
this is the first time I've seen MUSLIM WOMEN debate on hijab and not a bunch of random old white men. I’m French and every other Thursday French news shows bring in these "experts" (old white men and women) to talk about how hijab is oppressive and how it doesn’t belong in France. The one time they brought in a young Muslim hijabi woman, she absolutely decimated their arguments and then never got invited again. Thank you Jubilee for giving these women a platform.
yessssssssssss
Jesus is Lord
@Xen0taku4 Obviously it matters because it's not old white men wearing the hijab. It matters because we live in a world with racism and sexism.
@@matthewstaffordsburner1040 k sis what do u want us to do
@Xen0taku4 race and gender matters because it is something that affects muslim women and not old white men, they've never experienced it so their opinion shouldn't be given more importance than a muslim womans opinion
i think this is actually the best middle ground ive seen so far, i havent seen them all but ive been going on a binge recently and it seemed less like two "opposing sides" being pit against each other and more like different members within a community being brought to share their lived experiences
will isn't it suppose to be "middle ground" of opposing sides and not "everybody we agree with ground"
@@Bewefau i made this comment over a year ago now so i apologize if i say anything that contradicts with the video, but the term "middle ground" means that compromise can be met. a lot of the time, there tends to be hostility within the videos of this series because either one or both sides feels directly attacked by the other side and sometimes it feels like a middle ground is never really found and things just end on a sour note. all i'm getting at is that it's nice to be able to see human beings extending kindness and being understanding to people even if they have different stances on a topic that they take seriously
When I was in high school a boy did exactly what was described in the video, he ran behind a girl and pulled down her hijab. She was crying and traumatized. And the boy was suspended, rightfully so.
That is so mean and just awful! May that guy pay for his actions thats honestly so disrespectful!!!!
That happened to me. I was absolutely and utterly disgusting by the boy. There was a group of girls that surrounded her so she could get her hijab back on. It was cool to be a part of, but also I wish it didn’t happen, because I felt so bad for the poor girl. The boy got suspended for three days
@@rozy6605 Nah, he won't understand.
@@Tony.S420 hijab is like a covering for me. i dont want anybody and by that i mean *ANYBODY* who isnt my mahram (people who im allowed to not wear hijab around) see my hair. I like being covered and nobody forced me. When someone takes it off it makes me feel like ive been stripped and its shameful. She may have felt the same. Even if you put it back on it doesnt mean they havent seen it.
@@liliththeodore8506 just saying getting pantsed is worse
They couldn't have pucked a better group of women for this video. They were all so kind and respectful and understanding.
@Good Guy May Allah guide u
@Black that clarifies that u know nothing about prophet mohammad and u literally cuz no respect i believe in jesus too just not the way u do see the difference?
@@alisherri6272 Did he not consumate a marriage with a 9-10yr old? And was a warlord to many people?
@@jmorale7798 they don't focus on these facts they disregard facts and actually backed up evidence for a book that was made for rich people to get richer
@@hsk4950 Forceful conversions are not even allowed in Islam... “There is no compulsion in religion”
this is one of the most respectful and kind conversations on jubilee
@srry im mentally ill u wont get a reply I was just finna say that
@srry im mentally ill u wont get a reply that sounds funny that they invited gangs and they were civil too lmao ill have to watch it now
@@restlessbrainrw4683 that is compleaty wrong I know females that read the Quran there is no source for that.
because they are all muslim. there is no contrary viewpoint opposing them.
Abu Hurairah (RAA) narrated that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
“Do not initiate the saluting of Jews and Christians (when you meet them), and if you meet any of them on the road, force him to go to the narrowest part of the road (i.e. do not give way for them to pass, but keep going).
English reference : Book 16, Hadith 1489
Arabic reference : Book 16, Hadith 1445
When I was 9, my mum came up to me and asked me if I wanted to wear the hijab. I told her, yes, I want to wear it. My mum wore it after she had gotten married and my sister had worn it starting at 9 too. And I was brought up very close to Islam. I wanted to wear it. Later, my sister was getting married. My mum told me that I shouldn't wear my hijab for the wedding. I would look better. I looked at her confused and incredulous. I told her no. I told her I had made my decision those years ago and I wasn't going to back out of it just when it became beneficial or convenient to me. I was 11 when this happened. She smiled and laughed and nodded her head and said, alright. For me, hijab has never been a burden, thankfully. It is a part of who I am.
Wow you're soo cool..Im 14 and still tryna get used to wearing it..but in my country its so hot in summer...and i am more sweaty than most other people...whenever I wore hijab to go to school, i caught cold after some days because of the excessive sweating..Please pray for me sis😷
@@zohamaryam6671 Lol, don't worry, you're not the only one with the sweating thing. And hijab takes time to get used to, don't stress over that ;) InshAllah you'll grow used to it soon and will get over your bad immunity lol
@@zohamaryam6671 okay lets pray for you then 👌
_" I told her, yes, I want to wear it. "_
was that *_before_* or *_after_* you found out that not wearing it could potentially lead to consequences and mount up to sins which you're going to be punished in the afterlife for?
@@feduntu stop being pedantic. Do you know what the word forgiveness means?
high schooler is crazy respectful. wanting to wear the hijab after the bombing to represent the religion properly, wow i rly love her
Who will tell them?
That Modest dressing ain't the right way to protect women but raising your sons with the right attitude does.....🙆🏼♀️🤷🏻♀️🤦🏾♀️
@@logically2761 Muslim men are not even allowed to look at another girl accept their wives! Hijab isn’t just about protecting women, it's something that makes Muslim women feel confident. It makes them feel empowered.
@@kazimd.shabbirfaisal1865 Ikr? Both Muslim men and women are called to guard their gaze and men have clothing guidelines too (eg: knees are to be covered).
@@kazimd.shabbirfaisal1865
Joke of the year.
Ever heard about halala??
@@Iwannabesaved56 What are you trying to say? I thought we were talking about hijabs here.
Someone said "Christians who used to be atheists vs Atheists who used to be Christian" and that would be a good video. Also, I loved this one.
OH MY GOD!!!!!! Yes!!!!! As a Atheist who used to be Christian I would love to see that, I would love to be able to see people who went through the same journey and struggle as me and people who went through the opposite journey.
It'd be hard to find Christians who used to be atheists.
pretty B probably true. I also feel like most Christians that used to be Atheists were raised Christian and then became atheist before going back to it, which doesn’t really count.
@@pretty948 honestly, yeah but there’s shockingly so many people changing religion for their spouse. Mostly from another religion. So maybe not. Tho I have never met one before nor will ever meet one honestly
Momo's Bangs are lifeu oooooo that would be amazing. Probably would be one of the least.... respectful I guess videos of them all but it would be so interesting
”being mean is a sin too” is such a small but often overlooked and simple truth. religion is so often weaponized and used against individuals in a way that just drains it of its purpose which is creating fulfillment and purpose.
Well said
@bo ari well men are sinful as well for looking at women's hair, punishment from Allah doesn't discriminate women or men
@bo ari why is it a womans fault for naturally having hair? The fuck?
@@animeboiscute7204 well you're right but no one should EVER shame women for naturally having hair. I understand that being modest make some women feel safe and some feel caged on modest clothes. To each to their own lol.
@@ocashofficial2675 partly it is, its part of their religion.
Ik this was like 2 years ago but this video resonates with me a lot because I was a non hijabi before so I can definitely sympathize with non hijabi’s on how harsh the community is towards non hijabi’s and now as a hijabi I also agree on how others ruin the hijab experience for us because they are very careless with their words. Respect to everyone in this video, love how everyone was respectful
they needed a women who actually followed the deen correctly to talk. majority scholors agree if you wear pants and a headscarf you are not a hijabi. they brought jad who knew his deen. im waiting for more to come. idk why people in the comments are praising them
The bucket hat girl is so adorable Ma. All these girls were hella mature, respect to them.
for any non-muslims reading this comment "Ma" is an abbreviation of "masha'Allah"
@@rakiyah7791 thank you i was confused
@@chrishannajohnson2698 me too lol
@@rakiyah7791 wow I'm a Muslim, but its the first time I know about it
my cousinnnnnnnnnnn
Jannah is so intelligent and well spoken. I'm sad to hear that her sister called her such derogatory names. That must have hurt.
@@Bettie_Rage I don’t think it would go down well.
@distor 4 who is that, I dont recognize these names
Agreed and yeah I'm sorry too. ):
@@Bettie_Rage yes, would love that. Muslims from varying degrees of sect and belief is okay too
Thank You😊❤️
I was honestly so scared that his video was going to be muslim women, or women in general, being pinned against eachother and I'm so happy that it wasn't and that it was a more accurate representation of how real muslim women actually are
Because we are all sisters
After wearing the hijab for 6 years, I took it off and it's one of the best decisions I've ever made. Watch my video if you want! :)
@@mindmaid1817 quran 24:31.
That's literally what this entire series is. Some people are just respectful and other aren't.
@@mindmaid1817 no, most of people don't care about what you wear, be it a hijab or a bikini, so stop promoting your videos in the comment section!
This is one of the most respectful discussion I've seen in these videos. I'm currently very interested in Islam and this makes me love the religion even more.
completely agree 😊
As a non-Muslim woman, this was the most educational and the most respectful conversation I have ever seen on the topic. It's so hard to start a conversation about a controversial topic without instantly being labeled as being on one of the extreme ends of the spectrum, but this calm conversation between women who respect each other and respect their faith was a breath of fresh air. Thank you to all the participants, and thank you to Jubilee for providing a platform for these conversations to exist!
Cuz you don't know the real thing you only know the censored white washed stuff.
Greetings from Pakistan
@Lol Bruh lol you arent a muslim!! sit down
@Lol Bruh exactly!! you dont have to do what you have done yesterday anyway. you have to respect others also coz you know QURAN 109:1-6!! AS SIMPLE AS THAT!! you dont have to be agressive towards others !! okay brother!! have a nice jummah!!
To all the Muslim girls out there who read this, who think wearing Hijab is empowering. the few percent who were privileged enough to born and raised in a different country that doesn't rule under Sharia Law. the ones who choosing Islam without knowing what it is, because they can! and ignoring the rest of the Muslim Women who suffer based on what is written in the Quran. from not having the choice to divorce, not having the choice to wear what they want. not have the choice to keep the children after divorce, get raped by their husbands, being a 4th wife, haven't the right to raise their children after the divorce. can't disobey her mahrams such as his father, brother, husband, son otherwise can get beaten to death or get killed. get stoned to death, count as half of the man! , get referred to as a land, being unable to sing.... and this is just the tip of the iceberg. what are they defending? thousand years of humiliation under the name of god? let's face it what they defending is their identity, it is their personal view on something that is faaaaaaaaar from Islam! because they longing to belong somewhere to keep their identity! what they practicing is something else than Islam! it is a mystic Sufism thing that has nothing to do with Islam! Know what you are defending, The least you can do for your religion is to read The Quran, please read it and see if you still defending it . To whom they want to know more I write some of the ayahs. I repeat I will not accept any explanation since it mentions five times in Quran that we brought this book simple. so everyone will understand. al-Baqarah 228-223-282-221-230 an-Nisa 3-11-15-24-25-34-176 an-Nur 6-31 al-Ahzab 59-28-29-33-37-50-51-52-53 at-Taghabun 14 al-Tahrim 1
@@chapavolgar I feel like you need to understand what the verses actually meant a bit more, not tryna be mean or something just saying that you probably have miss understood the verses 😅
They are so open to talk and listen, yet dont thin down their own opinions. As a non-muslim, i loved this conversation.
They are because they all agree lol there was no presenting the other view point of it being forced or oppression.
@Good Guy are you good? Are u trying to convert to Islam or something cause you have been very dedicated to comment on this video seems like u a fan :)) it’s okay we will accept u if u join 💗
@Good Guy you commented many times in such a disrespectful way. could you please re question your actions and maybe try to learn about this beautiful religion? thank you
@xo Lynn yes
I just wanted to say this. In Degrassi on Netflix, it shows two sides of Muslim young ladies. One who doesn't follow the "Traditional" rules and one who does. It showed how both are happy, whatever they choose.
I know this is completely unrelated to your comment but this video made me remember that.
the high school girl is going places , she's humble yet well spoken
Yes we know we all love her oh and she is not a two with the hijab I don't think she realizes how cute she is
How can you tell? They are all equal in their own way,, we are taught not to compare.
@@balla6010 my sentence had zero comparisons.
That comment about wearing the hijab makes her look ugly and it’s a good thing isn’t a healthy outlook.
Wonder how she would have been if not in the US right now
wearing hijab does make you a better you than you, but it does not make you better than others.
True, it does make you a better version of yourself, because hijab is a islamic practice like prayer.
That’s such a brilliant way to say it ❤️
@@electrogem7142 Prayer is much more established in the Quran than the Hijab is. However it is a sign of modesty.
@@marcelbrandt8341smh
@@marcelbrandt8341 actually no they are both established the same amount. The hijab and prayer are indicated and the hadith explains them
the way they didn’t “attack” each other is so making me happy
this video literally shouting ukhti empowerment
nice opinion you seem westernised which is good
@@hsk4950 lmao ok?
@@hsk4950 stfu
@@hsk4950 What?
@@hsk4950 wtf?
This episode rlly was one of the better ones were everyone is just understanding of eachother and humble. Its great, made me feel safe in a way
meh i don't think it really "helped". most of the time they just agreed on everything except for Jannah maybe.
I am thinking about dropping out of school to focus on my career as a star on UA-cam. I already make a lot of money on UA-cam. School bores me so much. I need more opinions and since I don't have any friends, I gotta ask you, esna
I think it shows the non-confrontational nature of muslim women
Bcs they have empathy on each other
@@AxxLAfriku Don't drop out. You'll feel proud for finishing what you started. I personally dropped out at the finish line at my 11th year in school (I live in Norway where we don't have our schools set up the same way, so it wouldn't make sense for me to say high school or college or whatever it would have been in America), which I now regret. I wish I at least would have finished just two more years, just to have that certification to make it *A LOT* easier to not only get a job, but a good job I actually would enjoy doing for however many years. Sometimes what we want in life doesn't work out like we maybe thought it would, and sometimes we get tired of what we're doing and want to change careers. Then it's so much easier to navigate the job market. It'll also help to instill you with a more patient attitude, and also giving you the sense of being able to push through towards the end goal. To not quit what you started.
Now, I know everyone is different so what's right for me wouldn't be right for everyone else as well obiviously, but still. I just think it's good to push through what's boring now, but still is going to serve you great in the future. Even with doing youtube/social media I'm sure it would be easier to make it even better if you finish the school experience "properly".
Just my two cents.
I like that this conversation is within the Muslim community
Exactly. Would've been annoying to watch people who don't know what they're talking about act like they're experts.
@@Stupaipai bruh😅
Same
@@Stupaipai yes that’s what I was worried about when I saw the title
@Put Bluntly Anyone who thinks they know what they talking about when reality they don't.
Not referring to anyone specifically.
It’s just wild that women are expected to go out of their way to “protect” themselves and cover themselves up when we could just simply teach men not to hurt women. It’s actually insane
@@erin29344 then you also realize even if a woman is fully covered she STILL ISN'T SAFE from those kinda men. atleast teaching them from childhood to respect women would help.
Almost as if a patriarchal religion would absolve it's male leaders of any responsibility.
cheaters will always exist, killers will always exist, abusers will always exist, racism will always exist, rapists will always exist. fighting for something that is part of the disrupted human nature can't be untaught or unlearned. a child isn't born as a killer, abuser or rapist. teach them all you want, they'll still do it. you're living a bubble that'll never do reality justice. instead of letting your daughter do whatever she wants and solely hope that men out there will change, you're actually the one that's insane.
before the Quran tells women to cover up it tells men to lower their gaze, its a two way street in islam
Exactly!! Women can wear whatever they want! They can wear a bag over their face or they can wear a see-through mini skirt. Both are equal. If men have a problem with that, it's mens problem! The religion is only a brainwash power control by worthless men who don't know how else to be in power but to control women. Such sheep.
Finally the hijab conversation actually involves muslim women, refreshing to see it.
@Good Guy seriously? Bruh get a life 🙄
@Good Guy desert what? What does culture have anything to do with religion? You do know deserts are widely located in north africa, not in the middle east, so why are you assuming a whole religion has something to do with "desert culture"? You seem a little uneducated, so take a break maybe, its best for you.
@Good Guy you have a wrong name
Occidental muslim, lol, they are saying a lot of stuff that is just untrue. It's a discussion about how it is to live as a muslim in a different country. Being muslim in a muslim country is very different
@I'm in Pain huh yes really. I do not know for all countries, but i can confirm for morocco, liban, syria, algeria. Being a muslim in a muslim country is harder than anywhere else, there is social pressure, you're expected to be in a certain way, which is not the case in the usa. And even between every muslim countries the experience is different. Some countries are more strict some more just other have more social pressure, family pressure etc...
this was the least frustrating episode of middle ground I've ever seen. What a great group/great discussion!
This is my first video from jubilee and now I'm scared to watch others when I see your comment 😅
It was just a piece of cloth that people were wearing in the desert, and now it has become a political identity. We need to use our limited time to talk more about freedom and not about simple things as clothes.
Freeeeeeeeeedoooom
Probably because they’re all still Muslim and there’s no “middle ground” to be found because they already 90% agree lol.
@@OCD-GIRL ehhhh it’s not really just a piece of cloth when theres a huge significance and importance that comes behind it to them.
Maya A The funny thing though is a lot of Muslims also use the “just a piece of cloth” line when it suits them.
The way Jannah speak is so good . She has enough knowledge regarding Islam.
@@gorgifido7688 is praising someone bad🙄
@H London yah I agree with it. I just said the way she is speaking. But not in her actions. She know it. But she is not doing it.
@H London ys that's what I meant
punishment of the grave. There are many narrations which verify its authenticity. One such narration is: The Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) said, "Seek Allaah's protection from the Punishment of the Grave, since the Punishment of the Grave is a fact/true." (Saheeh: At-Tabraanee in 'al-Kabeer' from Umm Khaalid bint Khaalid ibn Sa'eed ibn al-'Aas.)
Our righteous predecessors have mentioned many stories in this regard, some of which are as follows:
Ibn Abi'd Dunya (rahimahullah) mentioned that one of his companions said, “My brother died and I saw him in a dream. I said, "How was it when you were placed in your grave?" He replied,
"Someone brought me a fiery flame and if it had not been that someone else made supplication for me, I think he would have hit me with it.” ("The Soul journey after death" an abridgement of Ibn al-Qayyim's kitabar-ruh.)
Bashar b. Ghalib (rahimahullah) said, “I saw Rabia, on whose behalf I make frequent supplication, in a dream. She said to me,
"Bashar b. Ghalib! Your gifts have been brought to me on plates of light, covered in silken cloths."
I asked, "How can that be?" She replied,
"That is what the supplication of living believers is like. When they make supplication for a dead person, that supplication is answered for them on plates of light, veiled in silken cloths. Then they are brought to the dead person for whom the supplication was said and they are told, 'This is the gift of so-and-so to you.'” ” ("The Soul journey after death" an abridgement of Ibn al-Qayyim's kitabar-ruh.)
Amr bin Dinar (rahimahullah) said “The sister of one of the men of Medina died and he buried her. When he came back from the burial, he remembered that he had left something in the grave. He asked one of his companions to help him. His companion related that they had dug up the grave and found what they were looking for. Then the man said, "Let us dig further and find out what has happened to my sister." He lifted up one of the stones covering the burial cavity and found the grave filled with fire. He replaced it and filled in the grave again. Then he returned to his mother and asked, "What was my sister really like?" She replied, "Why do you ask about her when she is dead?" He said, "Tell me." She said,
"She used to delay the prayer and she also used to go to our neighbours' doors, put her ear to them, and then tell other people what they said." ("The Soul journey after death" an abridgement of Ibn al-Qayyim's kitabar-ruh.)
@@Shiningsnow I think that's just a metaphor...
hijab is an obligation, prayers an obligation & also a pillar. an obligation is an obligation , there’s no discussion lol
What's oppression is, forcing non hijabi to wear hijab and hijabi to remove hijab
Yes agreed.
It is not required. So it is not oppressive. They have the mental conditions if they think they need to wear something they are not required to wear. You will be helping a kookoo.
@@cowsmuggler1646 some Muslims are forced to buddy
Nobody is forcing them to take it off. Just don't try to force it on us. You are spinning things around.
@@ilikebread7052 Forced to what? There is more than one in this argument.
i love how all of them are muslim, educated, and non-judgmental.
Mariam I honestly find muslim/arab modesty refreshing even if they don’t wear a hijab, when a women is conservative in any religion is just beautiful and real confidence and a good push back to Godless mainstream America that is sexually perverted.
Yes I agree they are very western
@H London how is the girl wearing white any worse than the other 2 not wearing hijab? u shouldnt even be judging her for one video...
@H London bro just because she doesn’t wear the hijab doesn’t mean she’s going against allah. wearing the hijab is more complicated than you think.
@Reeha idk what you’re trying to imply but religion is a very broad idea and they understand perfectly.
Imagine having the audacity to tear off a piece of someone's clothing. I'd have kicked these people in the nuts.
Interesting that you assume it's a guy
@@sirmel11 if it’s a woman she still will get kicked somewhere
@@sirmel11 most of the time my friends hijab got torn off, it was a boy, but if it was a girl yes the same actions would apply
@Mr dark O not sexual harassment, but assault
@Matthew C. according to US law, the hair is not a sexual part of the body. In countries under shariah law, it may well be sexual assault. But not in the US
Edit: additionally a perpetrator may be charged with hate crimes
As a Christian Black Male this was very interesting and insightful to watch! I feel a little bit more educated after listening.
this is like the only middle ground episode where no one pissed me off lol everyone was so respectful :) most episodes always have that one annoying person !
@Good Guy I’ve seen your replies everywhere. May I ask why you hate Islam so much. I’d like to clear up some misconceptions.
@Good Guy ironic how you use that username
Ig I was the only one mildly pissed off at that one girl
@@roleye which one 👀
@@samreen_amdani sha'am
That high school girl is smarter than half of the world.
I know right!? Shes very articulate and knows how to deliver her messages and ideas!
She's super funny also
Giiirl
right!!
Wait which one?
I'm not even Muslim but when the girl said "the struggle is part of the devotion"... Such beautiful words!!
@Good Guy please no negative comments
The struggle for more child brides is real
@Good Guy u srsly have no life do u?
@Good Guy you do know pigs aren’t the devil we just not aloud to eat them lmao and btw Jesus also said don’t eat pif
@Good Guy ain’t no such thing as pork biryani if ur gonna troll Atleast do it properly 😂😭😭
I have to say... this might be the most respectful, community-minded and loving conversation I've seen on this site. And it really warms my heart to see these women talking to one another in this way. I am not a muslim, but I have studied it, and I have friends who wear hijab, and it's really lovely to get a peek into this culture in this way.
Jubilee has the best videos on creating awareness on different topics. This is one of the prime examples.
Love you psyc2go ❤️❤️❤️
okie m early for this comment llol
Love your channel
OMG PSYCH2GO JIDIFDL ILY
Psych2go! Just letting you know you got muslim fans from around the world
I'm from Algeria!
the chemistry between them all is amazing, they don’t seem like strangers but rather like they’ve been friends for years. i hope they all stay in touch after this video
Its really easy for us muslim women to connect with one another because we share such similar experiences
@@ye23. I feel that same way meeting other autistic people in public 😅
It´s the sisterhood mash´Allah! Muslims have a unique view on brother-/sisterhood. We could get better, but alhamdulillah, it is STRONG.
@@ye23. yes!!
@@MonstehDinosawr i’m also autistic and agree but the way you said it sounded like you were saying muslims are autistic . not mad just telling you !
I think this is the most respectful middleground I’ve ever seen
definitely
I think what the guests on the show are missing are the rules There are a lot rules in Islam there are things are haram for men and not for women and there are things that are haram for women and not for men and there things that are haram for both men and women altogether it depend on the rules. I think that is the reason American Muslims and feminist misunderstand about Islam
The hijab should be banned in the west.
@@bencilsharpie7567 no, because that would be limiting freedom of expression
@@DragonRider-cx7brIf you want to wear hijab go live in a Islamic country like Iran, should suit you perfectly.
My wife is Nigerian from a mixed family, she is Catholic but has Muslim cousins. When we lived in KSA for about 15 years, she started wearing the hijab, abaya and niqab to “fit in” locally. Our daughters started attending Saudi schools in kindergarten, they wore the hijab like their fellow students and friends, and have continued into adulthood. It was their free choice, no,one forced them. Most of their friends are fellow Arabic-speaking Muslims; all of the hijabi we know make the choice voluntarily. It should not be forced on any woman, she should want it. This was a very respectful discussion.
They were so respectful to each other, don’t you love when women
I love when women too!!!
no
when women what???? i need to know!!!!
@@varuns9723 exist💖
OCD kicks in.
can these six women have a tv show or a podcast or something omg I would watch all day
literally i would pay for that
Omg same
Yaas , i wish there was something like that , i can relate too much , because i'm the same age
Anyways , there is a channel isn youtube with the same concept : "Honesrt tea talk "
frrr
They don’t even know anything about islam
Those girls are so bright and wonderful. I want all people to talk with people with opposite opinions like that. They were respectful to each other
Ikr ☺️
Yeah
Right! I know so many adults 45+ that can never have mature discussions without insults due to different opinions. Age never really comes with age. It entirely depends on the individual.
These women are so articulate and compassionate! We need more positive representation like this for the Muslim community.
OKAY BUT NETFLIX NEEDS TO WATCH THIS AND UNDERSTAND THAT MUSLIMS ARE PISSED
@@knossostellel-amarna8502 they are offending us and our religion , giving off wrong images about us, they are so disrespectful
@@knossostellel-amarna8502 As a free hijab-wearing Muslim woman with university education and successful career, single by choice, free to travel and Covid is the only thing stopping me, living in south east asia I must say... you're DEAD WRONG.
@@frfr0123 I think what Knossos is trying to say here is how some Americans are trying to forcibly take away the choice of wearing hijab in a country that supposedly brands itself as the 'land of the free'. But that's just my interpretation of their comment.
@@frfr0123 Not everywhere, in iran women who want to remove hijab can be penalised and the women who protest against hijab are even jailed, but of course the liberal media won't show it.
@@onewinter9411 Well that just applies to you, its not the same everywhere. In iran women who want to remove hijab can be penalised, and the women who protest against hijab are even jailed, but of course the liberal media won't show it.
When I was around 10 years old I was best friends with a Muslim girl (I am non-religious) and she was such a nice person, her parents were really nice to they introduced me to a lot of Muslim things. They allowed me to go with them to a mosque, I also tried on a hijab because I was curious. 1 time I also tried to join Ramadan, but I couldn't keep up I got super hungry (respect to everyone that can do it 💗). One time I got sick while I was with them and they treated me so nice. They also had amazing food. The sad thing is that she moved away and we lost contact, she will always remain in my memory though. I learned so much from them. I will never understand why people do not accept Muslims.
aw thats so sweet :)
I also have a friend who I happens to be Muslim and she is one of the most amazing people I’ve ever meant. It saddens me that some people will not be able to have the awesome memories that I share with her just because she practices another religion.
It was just a piece of cloth that people were wearing in the desert, and now it has become a political identity. We need to use our limited time to talk more about freedom and not about simple things as clothes.
Freeeeeeeeeedoooom
@@OCD-GIRL so what if it became part of religion people choose to wear a hijab, so how is it not a free choice
Same!!
As long as they aren’t forced to wear one, it’s all good. End of conversation.
I couldn't agree more
There's no Hidjab that isn't forced.
Wonder Lam excuse me?
@@wonderlam6366 How would you know ?
Exactly. Thank you 🙌🏾
I’m not Muslim, I’m a Mexican baptized as Catholic as a baby who never got to complete her holy communion or confirmation. These women helped inspire me to continue on my journey to complete those two quests and to purchase a Mantilla which is a religious head covering that pertains to my culture and religion. You girls rock and thanks for the insight ☺️💕
Thats very beautiful ❤️
❤❤❤
I could talk about this topic for literally hours but I just want to say this one thing. If you are a Muslim woman and you do not wear the hijab, you are still a Muslim women to me. You are still my sister. We are all out here struggling, some people can wear the hijab and have the most disgusting character and not be connected towards their faith, while others may struggle to wear the hijab and have memorized the quran front to back. When it all comes down to it only Allah can judge us.
YES.
me, an agnostic girl crying her eyes out for this comment and the whole video. always love to see women empowerment 😭🥺
"Only God can judge me - 2pac"
true, sister, true!
It was just a piece of cloth that people were wearing in the desert, and now it has become a political identity. We need to use our limited time to talk more about freedom and not about simple things as clothes.
Freeeeeeeeeedoooom
That “kind racism” is real tho. People be like I can’t be ignorant cause I’m kind lol
Edit: to people replying aight you can call it kind islamophobia/kind bigotry or whatever (yes I know islam is not a race) I just use the term because the girl use it when describing her experience
it’s islamaphobia not racism
@@sevendaysaweek2622 That’s literally the same thing
@@natalier4053 no, no it isnt.
@@natalier4053 islam is a religion not a race
@@sevendaysaweek2622 It would be considered so by the people it comes from who are assuming islam is a race or that all people who follow are Of the same perceived race.
I love how realistic Jannah is being with everything. She is truly relating to the quran and the teachings.
@Good Guy troll alert
@Good Guy bruh wtf is wrong with u
instead of trolling around go do smth productive
Just ignore him. If he wants to troll or whatever. Replying to him is just what he wants
Exactly. I agreed with most of her opinion
@Good Guy let's report you so that your account gets banned permanently ☺☺
I’m a Catholic in a relationship with someone who is Muslim, I couldn’t be anymore proud of this 6 girls and how they represented their faith. The value they held to hijab and the chance they got to explain themselves. Certain western viewpoints can be extremely ignorant and counterproductive. So being respectful of everyone’s decisions is what matters 💖
hii i have a question! will you have to convert to islam to marry your partner? sorry im just curious lol
@@darksharkk thank you for asking omg, sincerely my partner never asked me to, neither I think he will ever suggest it. We come from a little troubled backgrounds, and so neither of us are practising of our religions. Nonetheless we teach each other about both faiths and have realised how much in common there is. Would I ever convert ? Maybe no, but never say never, Islam is a beautiful religion and since being with him I have learnt a lot about it. I’m open spiritually to whatever gives me peace, but we are pretty much free spirits 💖 hope that answered it🥺
@@Katia.Espinosa98 aww so sweet, thank you! ♥
@@Katia.Espinosa98 you arent required to but if you want to only do it for yourself or you wouldn't be rewarded for becoming a Muslim in the afterlife
Western points hmm... Just wanting to live the way you live without being conquered and rape is counter productive?
The high schooler girl is so confident with her faith which represents how brave and strong personality she has
I agree they are very western its good to see
which one
@@Hishinunit5 Sabahat
@@hsk4950 hi, I know you mean well, but when you say Westeen, as an Asian Muslim, I have to disagree. Westeen or Eastern, women can be generally strong minded. We are just shown as docile by the media. It is also the same problem non Muslim Asian have. Western men have this kink where they think Asian women are submissive. We are not.
As a Christian I'm so impressed to see that Muslims don't waver in their faith. They don't allow social deception and the need to fit in to compromise their faith. Her speech was much mature than any of them
this made me feel so warm. we need communities like this as a young muslim girl bc it feels so scary to be misunderstood. i loved this video
So you don’t feel oppressed by wearing a hijab. So what? Theres still not a good explanation for wearing one even if you want to. It makes no sense, it was just made up by Muhammad.
what?? made up by nabi muhammad saw ? where in the world did you get that information? HAHAHAHSHAHA
maybe watch the video carefully and realize how embracing hijab has definite benefits...e.g. world is ever changing with people defining beauty and the whole chaos of how being beautiful or sexy gives unfair advantage and how people have to work hard to maintain their physique. like for example, the pressure of having abs when wearing crop tops or having big or small boobs when wearing low fitted tops. wearing hijab and modest clothing is so easy and effortless, more time spent on educating yrself and bringing out yr personality and mind more than yr body. and anyways its not like we were forced...we definitely have a choice on whether we want to wear hijab or not 🧕🥳🤷♀️
for me, hijab is an option given to me. seeing the benefits like convenience and focusing on personal growth than my appearance, well im taking it haha
@@poocrayon4588 you live up to your user name
@Kiara van Wendel it doesn't make sense to the world. The world changed and evolved. Jews and christians also wore headscarfs, but after WW2 people became less religious and more modern. The religion adepted, islam however does not. Islam is followed most strictly without compromise, even if it brings alot of trouble. That is why people are against it. They want progress, not the reverse. We have seen in Turkey what happens when islamists take over. Or pakistan. Or indonesia.
So proud of the high schooler. Even though she is younger than the rest, she seems to be super mature and wise.
Though it was weird when she said hijab makes her ugly like she was proud of it , self esteem issues .
@@ramy8338 bro why you everywhere stop being a troll
@@ramy8338 not really, women wear hijab to cover most of their beauty. so she knows it doesn't show all of her beauty and it'll only show to her partner. she's aware of it and accepting it. that's how it was intended to be.
Same thoughts right here.
Everytime she spoke,
I had smile on my face.
Kinda made it seem like she had to go harder tho
There’s a sisterhood here. It’s beautiful honestly.
Respect to Jannah for not trying to make excuses and she's just honest with herself I loved that.
@Good Guy white
@Good Guy lmao of course you’re white😂
@Good Guy makes sense
@Good Guy just get outta here clown 😂
100%
I respect how she quoted the Quran about being modest and covering up and I like how she said it’s better but it’s doesn’t make you better than anyone else
@task force whisky educate yourself.
@task force whisky i dont know what u talking about
@task force whisky what do you mean wahaabsalaf ?
@task force whisky wtf is "wahaabsalaf" I literally never heard before. I know what is wahabi and salafi but i don't understand what is "wahaabsalaf"
Indeed doesn't, modesty and purity is something you have inside of you, in your heart, the covering is most to not attract attention of those weak men that can't control themselves, modesty has nothing to do with you covering, i have seen covered women with a ton of makeup and some of them even smoking on street, were they less modest in that case? According to their theory, yes, according to mine no.
Jannah always references everything to the Quran. I am amazed of Her
I aspire to be like women like her, people who have so much knowledge about Islam and it’s virtues 💗
But she quoted it wrong. جيوبmeans breasts not hair, the Hadith in which the prophet tells aisha only her face and hands should appear is weak, and you guys would only disagree if you are Saudi or don't read Quran well enough
Me too! Makes me realized that I should learn more 🌼
who said that Muslims are only Arabs? what about Turks? what about Iranians?Afghans?Syrians! why they bring all of their guests from privileged Islamic countries that don't even run base on Sharia Law!! cause what they are talking about is not Islam! It is Islam base on their personal preference. The Real Hijab is in Quran. while it refers to women as their man's land. that if they disobey beat them. that their brain is half of the man. and you can take them as slaves ... Read the book. Know what you are representing. and know that you are all non-Muslims wearing hijab! p.s: for brave Muslim girls out there... it mentions 5 times that we brought this book simple. so everyone can understand if you wanna bring any other example against that it has to be in Quran!
alhamdulillah
What Faatimah said at 3:44 is relatable ... "When it comes to behavior [in the Muslim community], I find that rituals take precedence over behaviors a lot of the time..." It's crazy how that sentiment is so applicable to religious communities at large, no matter what you believe in. I resonate very strongly with that sentiment as an ex-Catholic. It's why I decided to leave the church years ago.
No one:
Absolutely nobody:
This gang: the only middle ground episode ever where everybody is actually just vibing.
@Good Guy dude we get it - if you were on the show you wouldn't vibe, just fight instead ... but this isn't about you lol
@Good Guy bruh, sexism check. Stop, no one cares. Get a life instead of writing hate comments 🙄
@Good Guy you say you're a Muslim then go around calling burqas gross? If you are gonna write comments at least let them make sense , or do us a favour and not write them at all lol
@Good Guy dude, this is niqab and its traditional clothes 😁 like by telling me its a “gorss burqa” youve just placed last in the kindergarten insulting contest. if you were ever in the desert, youd wanna wear smth to cover your face too tho, but then by being an internet troll you wont have time to go out of the house anyways. Peace ✌🏽
@Good Guy Atleats in our religion women r queens and even r husbands money is ours 🙌🏽 👑
I love how they basically didn't disagree with anything. They were just voicing their grievances and frustration. Lol. It was like a group of friends getting together.
I think that's called an echo chamber...
@@Roguenight863 stfu.
@@bs4e no. I'm only saying that it would've been better if there was more diversity of opinions. But Jubilee apparently didn't want that...
@@Roguenight863 maybe muslim women share a lot more opinions than people think. Maybe that's the takeaway from this video. People think that if a muslim woman wears a hijab, she's oppressed and if she doesn't, she's rebellious. This videos shows that being a Muslim woman isn't always the extremes. Also, an echo chamber has a negative connotation. You're suggesting that this conversation was a negative one, but most people think that it was a positive. So yeah, stfu.
@@bs4e an echo chamber is an environment where a person only encounters information or opinions that reflect and reinforce their own. If that's not what those women were in then I would like to hear your opinion. And if you have seen other Jubilee content, then you would know how often disagreements happen.
I am SO glad both sides were muslim women
I know it’s not on the topic, but it would be interesting having woman who didn’t wear hijab, wore hijab and wore the full face covering (I’m sorry I’m unsure what it’s called). Would be an interesting conversation:)
@@mack3028 you mean the full face and then you can see the eyes hijab? Cuz all of that is just hijab. It may be different ways but all of them are just hijab.
@@nathanialb9115 ah, I thought it was called a Niquab but again I don’t know how to spell this, so no offence intended!!
Interesting :)
@@mack3028 it is called Niqab😊
There were two sides lol? Didn’t notice. If they really wanted to get both sides they should have had women who has taken the Hijab off and been persecuted for it.
They purposely got people who would more or less agree so they didn’t offend their chosen audience.
I was born and raised as a Muslima and I had struggled with this topic pretty much.
And now that I'm convinced Abt wearing it, I was surprised that my parents are still not convinced Abt me wearing it because for them the hijab is modesty and I already dress think and act in a modest way but hiding the hair for them is more like a harder choice that I should make when I'm way more older and more mature.
And I'm totally against that, because as Muslim parents I expected them to actually encourage me more in this topic.
But the thing here is that we should never obligate any human being to do something as long as it doesn't affect other people in a BAD way. For exemple, if a woman is convinced about wearing hijab, why would you attack her ? She doesn't hurt anybody. And if a woman doesn't wear the hijab then it's also her choice. People who know nothing Abt religion starts to negociate Abt this and say things like : We know you were obligated or something but NO, just why would you do that ? Why wouldn't you mind your own business?
Just wear a hijab...
@@supremebrother I actually started wearing it Monday.
I like it quite a bit (even tho my parents are still against the idea) but Yeah Alhamdoulilah I finally took the risk :)
MashaAllah my sister i Hope your parents would stop complicate your obligation 😘
You make a very solid point. I oppose the Hijab since I think it's not a clear statement in the Quran however your point of everyone should just have their own choice and not be obligated to do either is perfect. My wife is struggling with this subject and I tell her I will love her regardless.
@@bintousacko4245 thank you ! They actually did and finally got 100% convinced that I won't take it off
Jannah was definitely the best in this debate since she really did differentiate between her personal choices and the teachings of islam. A beautiful soul!
But she openly accepts she's sinning and goes on to justify it by saying it's because America is the most sinful country on Earth. That's not a good defence. She could drink whiskey all day and say the same thing.
@@Matt.Willoughby she was speaking her truth. It wasn't for you to agree with🤷🏿♀️
@@SwissMissss Well who said I disagree with her?
As Muslims we should find 70 excuses for our fellow brothers and sisters, so I refuse to judge anyone.
in pisslam you can breastfeed adult 10 times haha
Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi that Salim ibn Abdullah ibn Umar informed him that A'isha umm al-muminin sent him away while he was being nursed to her sister Umm Kulthum bint Abi Bakr as-Siddiq and said, "Suckle him ten times so that he can come in to see me."
Salim said, "Umm Kulthum nursed me three times and then fell ill, so that she only nursed me three times. I could not go in to see A'isha because Umm Kulthum did not finish for me the ten times."
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 30, Hadith 7
Arabic reference : Book 30, Hadith 1281
Jubilee, y’all rocked the casting in this one. I’m a Protestant Christian and I felt like I learned a lot - and I loved each of these ladies! Enjoyed this Middle Ground so much!
Can we merry? Xd, hope there are more ppl with a open mindset like u
I love your mindset, I hope people are like you
Become Catholic, the only church with apostolic succession, founded on the order of Jesus. All roads lead to Rome
@Good Guy no one asked now go away
@@klemensvonmetternich4442 stop
I think this is the first episode where nobody got on my nerves really
omg same
same here
RIGHT ?? they were all respectful and humble, these conversations were so interesting to watch !
Frr
except the part where the 4 of them ran to be feminists, claim their victimhood, while also excising their privilege.
Why are so many young Muslim debating about these things and ALL of them are saying “I think” “I believe” “for me” it’s not about them Islam is not about them. It’s not about your beliefs. It’s about what Islam says. They can just read the Quran and understand why things are that way. Instead of using their own mind to say why. When the book already says why. Again islam doesn’t change for you. You change for Islam.
The fact that women have to debate how they're allowed to dress, but men don't...
ikr, it's sad:(
Yeah sad fr
Men in Islam are actually supposed cover their body from right above the bellybutton to right beneath the knees
Em they do actually
@@eldawansy1129 Interesting. Is this according to the Qur'an, or is this more of a cultural thing? And is the "dress code" the same as men's or different? Thanks for your comment.
i adore every single woman in this episode. they’re all the most respectful people ever and can “argue” about any opposing views in a calm, mature way. plus they all got on so well with each other i loved it
they rarely opposed actually
Little potato man!
I was expecting a lot of fighting tbh
It was an echo chamber but that’s to be expected
The girl in high school is so intelligent and we'll spoken, and can I say this is one of the most interesting episode I've seen on here
Yes, very intelligent... it makes me sad that religion can poison even smart people's mind.
@@chicagata what!? If anyone has a poisoned brain it would be you
@chicagata I don't think you have watched the whole video you could have at least come out with some knowledge .May Allah guide you to the right way .
@@user-xu4lz4np1k I have watched the whole thing, and the girls are super kind and sweet. Despite Islam they can find a way to be tolerant... maybe because they live in a free country. It wouldn't be so pretty in an islamist country.
@chicagata Have you ever been in a islamic country ? Honestly ???
This is the most friendliest conversation i have seen so far.
as a muslim woman, i literally kept on pausing after every prompt just to give my opinion as if i was with them😭
Same
@Good Guy bruh you good????
@@alxve_lyrixs1316 nah he broken. throw the whole guy away
Same 🌸
meeee😭😂😂😂
Shout out to the red-haired lady for not trying to re-write Islam and for taking accountability for her choice to not wear a hijab. We love to see it!
@Good Guy ok
Good Guy why do you have to disrespect a religion when you can just be quiet
@Good Guy You're trying to prove in your so-called brilliant mind that Muslims are bad ? That's why you are spreading hate and being disrespectful, right? You want someone to come up to say bad things to you, and you think you'll be right. LOL. You should respect. And others respect you too. But you can't expect others to do so and talk good if your behaviors towards them are bad. Your words about Allah are nothing. You can go for more brutal hardcore insults, but it should be a shame when your insults doesn't make Allah weak or something. I just hope you understand someday that we all in this together. Religion, race, sexual orientation… It doesn't matter. We need to respect eachother.
@Good Guy may Allah guide you
@Good Guy I am sure :)
Islam doesn’t allow boys to do whatever they want culture does I 100% agree
True
Yes
YEAH
@Francesca B ?
Period
i really like the way they carried themselves , the way that video ended is so wholesome.
As a Christian woman who observes modesty, I am so jealous of the wisdom Sabahat has at such a young age.
Right? I wish I was raised a little different and was explained that I don't have to dress more openly for people to like me, as well as waiting for the right person to share your bed with is so much more fulfilling than rushing into it. My life would have been so much more different and I can surely say, it would be so much better
@@polinaleshkovich +1
Yes,Sabahat is awesom,at some point she even made me cry
modesty does not make you a better or worse woman.
dressing modesty doesn’t earn you more respect and not dressing “modestly” does not take any respect away from woman.
woman should be free to wear and dress however they want, no argument.
if you think that not being “modest” gives you less respect, please get help.
@@frank8229 no one said that
"nobody marry that woman's daughter"
LMAOOOOO
😂
It's funny but then if it were you, it wouldn't be as funny, would it?
@@KD-vb9hh It's funny bc of how she mimics the gossipers so accurately
@@legendofmalo the secret power of women
@@justamanofculture12 What is the secret power of women? Gossip?
I love how respectful they’re all being, I wish the world was more like this
Will I can judge
Hijab is found in the Bible, the Torah and the Qur’an and is not limited to Muslim women only
couldn't say the same thing to twitter-
@@Longing-1377 but so why some Christian people look like it is opressed this woman :) i just wonder
@@stupidmalechick i had Twitter once. I had to delete it Was full of hate lol
12:24 the fact that when she says "alhamdulia" the subtitles says (speaks in a foreign language) i understand way but that just cracks me up lol😂
Yeah, I noticed that too.
😭
Does it say with Mashallah too 😭
Here is my opinion on the "hijab is oppressive" thing: If nudity is a choice so is modesty
Edit: ty for 1.9k likes I just wanted to share my opinion and ig everyone agrees! ❤️
Absolutely! I couldn’t agree more. It is only oppressive to those who do not choose to wear it and have it forced on that. That is not Islam however, that is the culture.
I just want to clear something it's not a choice it's something Allah said wemen should do so the word "optional" doesn't exist if you choose not to wear it, that's absolutely okay no one can force you but in the same time don't say it's optional do whatever you want but in the same time you should know that's a sin. And after i said that i would get a lot of hate here and people would call me extreme but guys it wasn't me who told the women to wear it, Allah did so when i tell you that hijab is a must i am not forcing you or oppress you, if Allah said it then it's a must if you don't do then it's "your" choice.... I am not trying to do anything or judge just... "hijab isn't optional" it's a choice. What i mean is if you wear it then you did what Allah said and if not you go against what Allah said hope you understand
@@yaserahmed4829 Not to be rude my man...But it's really strange to hear people say "Allah said so" when allah is pretty much defined as an all powerful entity that's neither material nor spiritual. Somehow miraculously, that said entity sends his "messages" to a human being who spreads his apparent messages. Believing in a divine power is one thing, but that divine power telling humans how to conduct themselves is far too convinient.
@@Sriram-ij2hh simple... The Quran is the words of Allah....... So... If it's mentioned in the Quran then... Allah said it 😃
@@yaserahmed4829 You seem to have entirely missed my point. So let me ask you a question instead. Why do you think what's written in the Qur'an is the message from Allah (who is neither a spiritual nor a material entity)? Aren't you merely believing the word of a man who said so?
I’m actually Christian but I find this very interesting, since I have Muslim friends who wear do/don’t wear a Hijab. :)
I’m a Christian too and I’m pretty sure that my sisters on my dad’s side and my dad are too
Catholic nuns wear hijab as well
I have Christian friends and also A Muslim friend who doesn’t wear a hijab. I’m also a Muslim hijabi :) Also, I have a friend who’s Christian who also likes BTS😳 What if you’re that friend?
@Age of Aquarius
Catholic nuns are not Christians
@@jmat9909 Pls no, don't start this convo.
I find Jannah the most honest & direct with her speech. She is aware what Islam teaches. Her points is directly linked with Quran sayings, rather than what your opinion/thoughts says.
Exactly! Thank you!
Same
@Flávio Sousa what does that even mean?! The Quran is the criterion between right and wrong! It’s not an opinion it’s Allah’s laws.
@@RadiantVeils and Quran can be interpreted too. There is no mention of hijab in the Quran. Women are told to dress modestly.
@Flávio Sousa but for Muslims (I’m not a Muslim so idk for sure) they live their life by the teachings of the Quran, so for them whatever it says is a fact
i love how jannah gains her evidence from the quran as a muslim i love how she does this becuase then nobody can deny what she says
I was raised Christian and remember reading in the Bible technically we are supposed to cover our hair as well. I Always wondered why we didn’t. Especially my family since modesty was pushed hard on us young females.
People pick and choose what part of scripture they follow and to what extent and how they interpret what is written. Heads of religion are no different. They choose what they want to teach others they interpret what they think it means and preach. meaning they choose what is given greater importance and what should and shouldn't be followed and what actions are considered following and what isn't.
Because the bible says a women's hair is her covering so in turn she doesn't have to cover her head.
Go to a Catholic Traditional Latin Mass and you will see it.
It may vary depending on the denomination, I am Apostolic and the covering of women hair when they are in church is important.
@@jahniquemills9926 hello sister!
Why can't the actual world be THIS respectful when talking to each other. It's because of mob mentality, because when you are this close to someone else with a different point of view in a group, most become afraid of being the "bad guy".
they are being respectful. to their kind only and calling other ignorat.
@bo ari allah doesnt exist. They way you describe it he would be a pervert. Why would he put hair on himans if it was sinful. Brainwashed sheep
@@arkay848 little thinker there. Claiming that is clearly showing ur ignorance. Then why the hell u must wear a single clothe then? Have you ever born with a single fabric to cover your body? They have the right to cover what part they want to cover if that makes them feel comfortable..so do you and everybody
@@muhammadfazharshaari1966 lItTlE tHiNkeR 🤡 says someone who belives in fairy tales
@@arkay848 hahah yes now confirmed
dawg who ever in charge of casting needs a raise after this one
I hope they did
I gave u 1 k😃😃😃
@@iibrahim8052 lol thanks
This conversation felt so friendly and natural. Loved this convo.
"Islam isn't the one dictating everything, its the Muslim culture" , Couldn't have said it better myself
@Good Guy may Allah guide you.
@Abid Saheel Islam is not the culture. Allah has created Islam for all.
@@khusbukhatun6817 Did Allah create Catholism, Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism as well?
@@khusbukhatun6817 ofcourse it's not a culture but Muslims take it too far sometimes. It is mostly because of the radicals who don't know much about their own religion in the first place
Sooo true
Sabahat saying that people came rioting to her school when she was probably 10 years old is really sad, we need to stop associating the actions of certain individuals to an entire community and population and using it as an excuse to hurt people or be racist (islamophobic in this case) when they had nothing to do with the actions of someone else.
(edited for grammatical reasons)
being islamophobic is not racism. Islam is not a race.
Abel A when they say that, they are talking about Arabians and it doesn’t have to be a race for it to be call racist, it can also be any group people search up the definition of racism.
@@ann-maryn1232 well no, it does have to be about a certain race/ethnicity for it to be racist lol. That’s why you don’t call someone who is sexist a racist because they’re not the same thing. Also, your statement would also contradict this belief since you admitted it would be about Arabs...
True stuff, Bring more attention to this.
Aven Brown well here the definition from google. racism is prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
as a christian woman, i’m so happy that when i was younger, i chose to learn about other religions because (yes it is the bare minimum) i get to teach other people why what they’re saying is wrong. there are two muslim girls in my school and i saw a guy take off her scarf. it’s not even my religion and i’ve never been more infuriated in my life, thank gosh i was wearing a jacket because i took it off and gave it to her so she could go to the bathroom and put her scarf back on. i screamed at the guy and i was the one who got in trouble? i was the one who got in trouble because i was “causing a distraction”. the boy had no repercussions, and it still infuriates me to this day.
Lol u get in trouble!! Rly?? 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
You shouldnt scream like a hysterical loon - thats why you got in trouble
You are such a beautiful soul!
It’s cool that we can respect each other
@Good Guy Your profile picture says a lot about you.
this conversation full of kindness and respect was amazing, thank you so much for this