Can’t have em all rebel against their overseer. Makes it easier for the vault dwellers to go along with all the crazy experiments, down to human sacrifice
That point is overstated. As long as hair styling is permitted, along with nails and wearing of jewelry is permitted then the effects are minimal. No one argues that school uniforms, work uniforms, team jerseys, etc. are especially dehumanising. It's when you combine a featureless unadorned set of clothing with head shaving, allowing no jewelry or facial hair, no makeup, etc. you see a dehumanising effect.
@@helbent4I mean any uniform is a bit dehumanizing in nature when all your life you’ve had the freedom to wear whatever you want. It’s all perspective. People who grow up wearing uniforms don’t feel that way because it’s the norm for them, and eventually everyone just gets used to it. It’s more about the taking away of freedom than the uniform itself that causes the dehumanizing effect.
@@helbent4school uniforms are actually used for taking away individuality. On the record a school will say it's so that nobodies economic or social standing to reduce bullying but it does cause a loss of identity that is designed to create more compliant students. Just because people don't mind being different and disruptive doesn't mean that it doesn't work. The disruptive students are seen as being outliers although real world results are far from experimental results and you have to take into account those studies all happened quite some time ago when ethics weren't exactly high priority or even a consideration. Tl;DR: they say it's one thing but it's multiple effects including coercing students to be good.
Honestly the vault suit of 101 being made from tough denim just makes me love it more, honestly I think this an excellent vault suit considering 101's experiment was literally to never open the vault ever.
I always thought it was just a way to trick dwellers into believing they were protected from rads and stuff cus they’re rad resist is negligible at best
Everything in the fallout universe has that advantage actually. Fusion cores power armor l, weapons both energy and traditional have lasted centuries longer than our universes technology. Fallout is further in their timeline than we are. Also video game rules.
@@MrEveionit's only a slight exaggeration because before the era of "buy it, use it, throw it away" things, even mass produced ones were built to last. Going around in rural areas of middle and eastern Europe for example you can see tools and machines like landmowers and vehicles that are up to over a century old, but mostly are from the mid to late 1900s.
Well they did have a period of resource wars right before the bombs dropped, so things probably had to be made a lot more durable out of necessity and advanced recycling tech was probably developed rapidly too. Plastic would have became rare and expensive once oil started to run out, so they couldn't just churn out cheap, disposable plastic crap like we do now. That could also be an explanation for why everything is so aesthetically 1950's (besides the whole cultural stagnation and never-ending cold war explanation). That's the last time period before plastic was super widespread, so when they were forced to go back to the materials and construction methods from that time period maybe they also readopted that period's industrial design.
My headcanon is that Vault-Tec had been building Vaults pre-war for so long that they had time to revise the suits multiple times throughout the process. Maybe the earliest vaults built were supplied with the earliest suits designed, and VT never bothered with (or had time to) going back and resupplying old vaults with updated equipment. That’s why I just assume the Vaults in Fallout 1 and 2 are just plain rubber body(fetish)suits with almost no technology in them but they’re designed to be supplied in the thousands to be replaced when they break or recycled like you said. The suits in 3 and NV are 2nd gen and take the opposite approach of being designed to be so durable and modular that they’ll hopefully never need to be replaced at all. Then, for 4 and 76, Vault-Tec designed the 3rd gen combining the best attributes of both previous designs. A comfortably loose yet still form fitting jumpsuit that’s durable, modular and packed with modern tech. That’s why we’ve only seen them supplied to the absolutely newest Vaults built more or less a year before the war like 111 and 76. I could be totally wrong, and there might be plenty of lore proving otherwise but I find it to be the easiest to mentally explain.
It never crossed my mind that some of the Vault jumpsuits would be extruded rubber, but it makes a lot of sense, knowing how little Vault-Tec cares about the Vault Dwellers. I imagine the rubber jumpsuits would be very uncomfortable to wear.
@@f.b.l.9813Yeah, if they wanted full recyblability polyester would have been good enough and its synthetic too. Rubber clothing like that would be like always wearing a glove on and no one would wear them because the discomfort would also apply to the overseer and the security.
Yep. Makes sense why in fallout 3 and New Vegas they’re loose fitting denim or leather, not only would it be more comfortable and be less sweaty and be less of a breeding ground for fungal infections, but it being more flexible and less form fitting would make long term wear and daily routines in the vault such as being a doctor, teacher, or mechanic much easier.
@@LoreTours It's a little dull in the chest area and the shoulders look a bit more basic. Which I guess is why they upped the detail in those areas again for the tv show by blending back in some fo4, while retaining a more comfortable fit and practical look. It's my new favourite for sure. Also makes sense because the pip boy they use is clearly a 3000 series range model like the mark IV in fo4, but a bit sleeker and now apparently recently named the mark V.
Yeah, Fallout 4's always looked uncomfortable and Franky horrible looking to me, which makes it funnier when someone in Vault 111 talks about how stylish they are. 76's definitely feels like something that's practical, both for the person wearing it, and the scientists at Vault-Tec.
@@averagemugI actually liked 4’s since it looks like it would keep you surprisingly warm in the cooler climes of the northeastern United States compared to the open collar of the Appalachia vaults’ jumpsuits.
@@Jolis_Parsec It really wouldn't, the Fallout 3 and New Vegas vault suits looked obviously thicker than the ones in 4 which are thin and skin tight. You wouldn't wear spandex when it's below 60 and 50 degrees.
@@averagemug Vault 111's were more than likely designed to help with the cryogenics. It's probably made with some kind of material to help the rate of cooling through the body to be more predictable. Which is why it's skin tight. Meanwhile I think with 76 they were made more utilitarian because they were gonna be the first to start reclamation and would need gear to help them survive the outdoors.
@@AsherReigns I think it's Bethesda wanting to change the Vault Suits again. Most of everything in Fallout 4 was redesigned for really no reason. Though I do think this would be a good explanation as most cooling garments are tight fitting.
Capital and Mojave suits seem more accurate as utility suits. Baggy suits give more standardization to the manufacturing to where you just make them in reference to chest diameter and adjust the sleeve and leg lengths. 38R, 38L, 38S, like how utility jumpsuits are sized in reality. Skin tight could be a little uncomfortable if they don't fight right, so having some extreme room or length is better because all you'll need is a belt or to roll the sleeves or pants slightly. And the production could be slightly more expensive. And corpos always like cost cutting I also imagine the Capital and mojave suits are made out of a thinner material that tears easily because if the sleeve or pant leg gets caught in machinery, it just rips off rather than potentially drag the wearer
What you've missed in your analysis is that the chest pad on F4 suit is missing a control knob. This control knob is visible in the concept art right at the start of the video, and the hi-res sculpt of the suit, _and_ in the vault suit variants (like those "worn" by skeletons). For whatever reason, when making the ingame "hero" model of the suit, this knob was not included.
@@itdobelikedattho8112 Have you never actually realized that a knob is a specific type of control device? Have you gone your whole life believing it was just a rude word for penis?
Fallout 76 combines all the pros of every Vault suit in game. But I'm curious how comfortable are they? Like, when you go to the bathroom, do you pull it all down from top to bottom? or is there another zipper for your thing or can you pull down the trousers? I mean, it is a 'jumpsuit' like most mechanics wear, right?
The badge like thing on the vault suit is most likely a dosineter. It detects how much radiation you are exposed to over time. X-ray Techs have to wear something similar and get it examined weekly/monthly.
@LucyWest370 Our radio worked just fine. that's. how we were able to have drone support and call for the wrecker. I'm not saying it was definitely the charms, but that was the only time we ever got stuck like that like that in 7 1/2 months.
I thought the skin tight suit was perfect as an undersuit for different kinds of armor/exosuits. Depending on the task, anti radiation suit, industrial heavy lifting, underwater exploration, etc. Looked like the practical use for it.
It honestly would make sense for different materials to be used for different suits it's not uncommon for companies to outsource multiple contractors for the same product and if the specifications are loose in terms of requirements they have to meet the suits could vary wildly.
The vault suits in f4 are literally just modified wet suits, the suits in f3 always seemed more comfortable and practical in a working environment, and the utility version just looks cool, especially the vault 101 utility version, who wouldnt want sand shoes in the apocalypse😂
i like the F3 and NV suits and i like that the F76 suits are a nice blend between the F4 which called back to the original suites and the more utility of the F3/NV suit though i wish they kept the belt, still keep the gold trim around the waits but it needs a belt.
Eh, I kinda like it being skintight, completely in line with og Fallout. If only male and female characters had their nipples poking out, maybe with some overly detailed muscle definition if your character is muscular
You know...I know FO76 is a bit controversial in the Fallout community with good reason, but one thing they absolutely NAILED is the Vault Suit design! This is the perfect design imo. It still keeps that sleek futuristic spandex look while also being more baggier and practical like the vault suits in FO3/NV. When we get FO5(Whenever that is) I hope they keep this design!...Also, as a PC player I hope someone someday mods FO76's vault suit into FO4.
@@ErathCzrecently started playing it, have 100+ hours already. The problem with 76 is that it's a shitty RPG. Its nature as a live service game strips your decisions from all meaning. You know nothing'll change in the world - thousand of other players are still yet to complete this quest you've just finished. I constantly get notifications like "The Scorched Queen's reign of terror has been ended", meaning someone had just "completed" the main story, but I know I haven't. It's still out there. And once I have, it'll stay there. Actually populated areas with lots of NPCs are just expedition locations. What really bugs me is that the stealing system, per se, has been entirely cut. You can waltz into a neutral raiders' camp or the BoS fort and clean off the shelves, no one will bat an eye. Attacking these NPCs will also lead to nothing. The game has a huge problem with ammo management. You constantly get loads of ammo from enemies, and have little to no methods of dispatching unused ammunition. You can't scrap it, you can't sell it to NPC vendors; you can either shoot it away, somehow manage to peddle it to other players or dispose of it in the ammo converter machine with a terrible UI. Survival system is also lacking compared to the FO4, due to the "fatigue" system being cut. (Also, the interior of the Whitespring resort is so fucking ugly, but that's beside the point.) What I think FO76 does best is building (you have to acquire plans and recipes instead of just knowing what to do from the start), perk system (which is pretty convenient and versatile), power armor (it remains a delight from the FO4, but doesn't break as easily), the item condition system (I love how food actually spoils now), and the main quest with the world map itself keeping me pretty engaged. I've never felt bored during my 100 hours, and I often get reasonably challenged by enemies. The game generously rewards you with premium currency, letting you get a lot of stuff from the store with you just playing the game. Idk if it'll stay that way in the late game, though.
There's a ton of reasons. Foremost for me is they made.it impossible to play let alone play long term without a fallout first sub. If you don't pay in good luck ever storing anything you find and would like to try out I'm your adventure. Scrap. Ammo. Weapons armor. There's no hope to store any of it without coughing up 13 bucks a month. Before you argue with me know I have 1300+ hours in 76. I damn well know what I'm talking about.
*the gold was especially vibrant on 76 jumpsuits because of West Virginia’s colors “Old gold and blue” (I always thought it sounded better as old blue and gold but what do I know I’m just a poet)*
I prefer Vault suit 13, because of nostalgic reasons. It introduced the vault dweller and the Fallout game itself. If you haven't played it, you missed out on some good old school gaming.
While your video was somewhat informative your thumbnail was misleading, you didn't explain what that was at all or how it works. I always thought it was an EKG because there is right near the heart and that the port was in the back but I didn't get an answer because you didn't explore that.
Sorry about that, been ages since this was made and thought I explained what it was, my bad. Yeah it's likely some kind of monitor that syncs up with the rest of the suit. I did think initially it might have been used to interface with the vault but that's what PipBoys are partially used for
What could be added? Graffiti! Ie.: modding in a selection of marine paints that can be used to reskin the vault suits with patterns, messages & devices, eg. the radiation warning symbol, the peace sign, "Tunnel snakes rule!" , &tc.
Vault Tec suits are also anti-radiation. As we seen in TV show, they are advertised for that purpose (meaning not fake, only not as good as advertised for, thus that funny scene with Cooper), but for lower levels of radiation (post nukes) will do in most cases.
@@NiCoNiCoNiCola Hands and head need protection (one of reasons why Vault Tec suits are not good as advertised for) but with rad is about surface exposed too: in lower rad levels, having most of your body covered, will make A HUGE difference than having entire surface of the body exposed.
On survival mode without your suit since it has scanners on it it would be cool if it took your health hud away or limited how accurate it is but with it it’s more accurate
I still love how it looks on my character, but I don't wear it much. I prefer either clothing that doubles as underclothes for armor, or just the armor itself. Plus I like how some outfits look more than the armor.
Bioscanners and such does make sense, but I wonder about two things... 1. Where is the data going? 2. Where is the tech development? 3. Rubber is crazy hot, so why choose something so impractical for hotter temps (summer)? 4. Youve made a lot of good points, but I really believe that for the suits to be worn above ground, you should have an outside suit. Underground, it is cold, except near geothermal vents. The surface is another environment altogether. Seems like they didn't think things through, logically or practically for residents. 5. What about the ghoul or fev vaults? 6. Did any vault not use suits at all?
gotta say I have always preferred the rugged utility jumpsuit style of 3/NV. The skintight rubberiness of 1 always looked flimsy (and too sexy to be practical) and the golden trim of 4/76 has the same tightness/impracticality issue while also looking a bit too extravagant for my liking
So then, the ragged loincloth from the dying hobo I upgrade the vault suits with immediately after the tutorial is hiding even more impressive tech? :O
what should be added too the suits: (merely a shallow remark on my behalve) stated as such: the vault dweller inventory can contain up too 250 lbs of items if one i strong enough. maybe the suit especially the pants need an extra pocket for the fatboy i am carry-ing around. while holding a .22 silencer gun. (ha ha just messing with ya. the suits look excellent, sturdy and robuust, the colors are fine. all looks very mature and the texture varys from soft too sturdy are also fine. they are like pyama's and a good undercoat. although i am not font off any lab equitpment or any expiriments. and those attachements probably sleep and sit uncomfortable. maybe just a vault suit. without those body sensors. just a suit that principle says. i like comfort. maybe with a knitband. for personal patches too give it a personal touch at last. too break with vault tec rules and personalize them anyway. although a common sense of uniformity and standing as a team strong in the wasteland has it charmes and beauty above the cockyness of it all. if clothes makes the man. then who makes the clothes ?
do you know where it's confirmed about the interface ports? I've been trying to find some more info about these vault jumpsuits, but have been struggling to find information from the games or the devs themselves regarding this specific detail
It's a shame that it would be basically impossible to standardize certain designs to certain vaults. For example, vaults 101 and 111 should have been a perfect candidate for the recyclable pure rubber suits, since they were designed to never ever open. Whereas the comfort and function forward denim and leather suits would have been better candidates for vaults like 13 and 31/32/33 as they were meant to be opened, but only after a much more extended period of time, compared to the inbetween designs like we see in 76.
I prefer the Fallout New Vegas Vault-Tec jumpsuits. I’ve never been one to enjoy wearing anything skin tight and the utilitarian design with the pockets at knee pads just seems like it would be more practical.
So this might be a obvious question but I m I only played fallout four and haven't gotten into the lore until recently. Is that device that monitores the vault dweller Vital Signs how you can check on your health in the ,Pip boy?
vault idea put the top fashion people and beauty people and put them in a vault with just vault suits like fallout 1 & 2 so no fancy foil and see how quickly choas happens we all know one person who would go mad in this vault.
Fallout 76's suits are not as skin tight as FO4, it goes back to the classic fallout / fo3 style suits of being more wrinkled and loose, these appear in the TV show as well. Glad they didnt use the fo4 one.
ngl i thought the weird phone lookin thing was a nokia and just nokias were the only postwar things that survived cus in new vegas there were phone lookin things imbedded into the road
I don't think they used different materials for the vault suits. After all, Fallout 1 and 2 are set in California\ Nevada\ Arizona, as it FNV, so it makes no sense for them to use different suits, or for the suits in the Mojave to be the same as the ones in D.C. - literally on the opposite end of the country and continent. And then, the jumpsuits in the Capital Wasteland are different from the ones in the Commonwealth and West Virginia, despite all being set in the same general area? No, the only reason for the suits to be different is if we go by the live-action show's lore, where they say that different vaults are run by different corporations. Although you do make a good point about the suits having different designs based on their respective vaults' functions.
In every fallout game I made sure to ditch the vault soon as soon as humanly possible. It's not not exactly nice to look at let alone wear. Looks goofy.
If I had to ranks the vault jumpsuits from best to worse(with no game bias) it’s probably Fallout 4, Fallout 1/2, Fallout 76, Fallout 3/NV. I’m sorry to the Fallout 3 & New Vegas fan, the games are great it’s just that the vault jumpsuits in those games looks like clunky mechanical jackets with weird metal pieces that doesn’t look comfortable/right. I also hated the weird ass vault glove they had in those games too. I’m glad Fallout 4 & 76 got rid of them.
Yes they should just add this to Fallout 5 you can change the color of your suits and you can change the appearance simple material to leather you can add special paddings white cargo pants adding more pockets
I think the women's vault suits in Vault 69 should have been built similar to corsets albeit with deep v-necks and with a much tighter fit around the crotch and the ass, if you catch my drift. Perhaps, some midriff could've also been showing? And, yes, that's actually canon, considering where the vault number comes from.
What rubber? Try wearing a rubber suit (or even a pair of rbber gloves or boots) for a few hours. You'll quickly realize how terrible that idea is. And to wear a skin-tight full body jumpsuit made of rubber would be totally impossible. You'll overheat and rot in your own sweat, probably, in a couple days.
"And to dehumanise them" Is a aspect I never realised.
Can’t have em all rebel against their overseer. Makes it easier for the vault dwellers to go along with all the crazy experiments, down to human sacrifice
That point is overstated. As long as hair styling is permitted, along with nails and wearing of jewelry is permitted then the effects are minimal. No one argues that school uniforms, work uniforms, team jerseys, etc. are especially dehumanising. It's when you combine a featureless unadorned set of clothing with head shaving, allowing no jewelry or facial hair, no makeup, etc. you see a dehumanising effect.
So is any uniform
@@helbent4I mean any uniform is a bit dehumanizing in nature when all your life you’ve had the freedom to wear whatever you want. It’s all perspective. People who grow up wearing uniforms don’t feel that way because it’s the norm for them, and eventually everyone just gets used to it. It’s more about the taking away of freedom than the uniform itself that causes the dehumanizing effect.
@@helbent4school uniforms are actually used for taking away individuality. On the record a school will say it's so that nobodies economic or social standing to reduce bullying but it does cause a loss of identity that is designed to create more compliant students. Just because people don't mind being different and disruptive doesn't mean that it doesn't work. The disruptive students are seen as being outliers although real world results are far from experimental results and you have to take into account those studies all happened quite some time ago when ethics weren't exactly high priority or even a consideration.
Tl;DR: they say it's one thing but it's multiple effects including coercing students to be good.
Honestly the vault suit of 101 being made from tough denim just makes me love it more, honestly I think this an excellent vault suit considering 101's experiment was literally to never open the vault ever.
I always thought of the suits as a way to increase survivability in the wasteland and the reason for the perk system
If only they'd have thought of that
I always thought it was just a way to trick dwellers into believing they were protected from rads and stuff cus they’re rad resist is negligible at best
@@KenwrathKDKIt's also part of control. Limit choices, limit thought. Uniformity of thought primed by literal uniforms lol.
Perks come from the pip boy but yeah
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Im surprised on how durable they are lasting for 200 years and being hand-me-downs
Everything in the fallout universe has that advantage actually. Fusion cores power armor l, weapons both energy and traditional have lasted centuries longer than our universes technology. Fallout is further in their timeline than we are. Also video game rules.
@@MrEveionit's only a slight exaggeration because before the era of "buy it, use it, throw it away" things, even mass produced ones were built to last.
Going around in rural areas of middle and eastern Europe for example you can see tools and machines like landmowers and vehicles that are up to over a century old, but mostly are from the mid to late 1900s.
Recycling is probably a factor
@@CallofFreaky That and good maintenance of equipment. When people know they don't make these anymore people tend to take care of their things better.
Well they did have a period of resource wars right before the bombs dropped, so things probably had to be made a lot more durable out of necessity and advanced recycling tech was probably developed rapidly too. Plastic would have became rare and expensive once oil started to run out, so they couldn't just churn out cheap, disposable plastic crap like we do now. That could also be an explanation for why everything is so aesthetically 1950's (besides the whole cultural stagnation and never-ending cold war explanation). That's the last time period before plastic was super widespread, so when they were forced to go back to the materials and construction methods from that time period maybe they also readopted that period's industrial design.
My headcanon is that Vault-Tec had been building Vaults pre-war for so long that they had time to revise the suits multiple times throughout the process. Maybe the earliest vaults built were supplied with the earliest suits designed, and VT never bothered with (or had time to) going back and resupplying old vaults with updated equipment. That’s why I just assume the Vaults in Fallout 1 and 2 are just plain rubber body(fetish)suits with almost no technology in them but they’re designed to be supplied in the thousands to be replaced when they break or recycled like you said. The suits in 3 and NV are 2nd gen and take the opposite approach of being designed to be so durable and modular that they’ll hopefully never need to be replaced at all. Then, for 4 and 76, Vault-Tec designed the 3rd gen combining the best attributes of both previous designs. A comfortably loose yet still form fitting jumpsuit that’s durable, modular and packed with modern tech. That’s why we’ve only seen them supplied to the absolutely newest Vaults built more or less a year before the war like 111 and 76.
I could be totally wrong, and there might be plenty of lore proving otherwise but I find it to be the easiest to mentally explain.
It never crossed my mind that some of the Vault jumpsuits would be extruded rubber, but it makes a lot of sense, knowing how little Vault-Tec cares about the Vault Dwellers. I imagine the rubber jumpsuits would be very uncomfortable to wear.
Fungal infections everyone?
it makes zero sense
@@f.b.l.9813Yeah, if they wanted full recyblability polyester would have been good enough and its synthetic too. Rubber clothing like that would be like always wearing a glove on and no one would wear them because the discomfort would also apply to the overseer and the security.
Yep. Makes sense why in fallout 3 and New Vegas they’re loose fitting denim or leather, not only would it be more comfortable and be less sweaty and be less of a breeding ground for fungal infections, but it being more flexible and less form fitting would make long term wear and daily routines in the vault such as being a doctor, teacher, or mechanic much easier.
You get used to it after a few decades.
76 had the best suit, futuristic but practical,
Not so tight that it's akward to look at your character, a good mix of fo3/nv and fo4
I agree, feel like it blends style and practicality well
@@LoreTours It's a little dull in the chest area and the shoulders look a bit more basic. Which I guess is why they upped the detail in those areas again for the tv show by blending back in some fo4, while retaining a more comfortable fit and practical look. It's my new favourite for sure.
Also makes sense because the pip boy they use is clearly a 3000 series range model like the mark IV in fo4, but a bit sleeker and now apparently recently named the mark V.
@@CitizenMio Lucy's worn suit looks incredible imo.
F04 it's kinky level of body tight
the worst suit from the worst Fallout game.
76's Style is my most favoured design simply because it is a mix of the vaults suits mentioned.
Same, rugged yet futuristic
I'll be honest fallout 76 had a brilliant vault suit design which was a great blend between fallout 3 and fallout 4
Yeah, Fallout 4's always looked uncomfortable and Franky horrible looking to me, which makes it funnier when someone in Vault 111 talks about how stylish they are. 76's definitely feels like something that's practical, both for the person wearing it, and the scientists at Vault-Tec.
@@averagemugI actually liked 4’s since it looks like it would keep you surprisingly warm in the cooler climes of the northeastern United States compared to the open collar of the Appalachia vaults’ jumpsuits.
@@Jolis_Parsec It really wouldn't, the Fallout 3 and New Vegas vault suits looked obviously thicker than the ones in 4 which are thin and skin tight. You wouldn't wear spandex when it's below 60 and 50 degrees.
@@averagemug Vault 111's were more than likely designed to help with the cryogenics. It's probably made with some kind of material to help the rate of cooling through the body to be more predictable. Which is why it's skin tight. Meanwhile I think with 76 they were made more utilitarian because they were gonna be the first to start reclamation and would need gear to help them survive the outdoors.
@@AsherReigns I think it's Bethesda wanting to change the Vault Suits again. Most of everything in Fallout 4 was redesigned for really no reason. Though I do think this would be a good explanation as most cooling garments are tight fitting.
Capital and Mojave suits seem more accurate as utility suits. Baggy suits give more standardization to the manufacturing to where you just make them in reference to chest diameter and adjust the sleeve and leg lengths. 38R, 38L, 38S, like how utility jumpsuits are sized in reality. Skin tight could be a little uncomfortable if they don't fight right, so having some extreme room or length is better because all you'll need is a belt or to roll the sleeves or pants slightly. And the production could be slightly more expensive. And corpos always like cost cutting
I also imagine the Capital and mojave suits are made out of a thinner material that tears easily because if the sleeve or pant leg gets caught in machinery, it just rips off rather than potentially drag the wearer
And here I thought they were just fashionable
What you've missed in your analysis is that the chest pad on F4 suit is missing a control knob. This control knob is visible in the concept art right at the start of the video, and the hi-res sculpt of the suit, _and_ in the vault suit variants (like those "worn" by skeletons). For whatever reason, when making the ingame "hero" model of the suit, this knob was not included.
What do you mean by 'knob'? Can't you use normal words?
@@itdobelikedattho8112 *knob* (noun [C] (ROUND OBJECT)):
a round handle, or a small, round device for controlling a machine or electrical equipment.
@@itdobelikedattho8112 Have you never actually realized that a knob is a specific type of control device? Have you gone your whole life believing it was just a rude word for penis?
@@Jan_StrzeleckiI want what they're smoking 😂
@@itdobelikedattho8112 "CaN't YoU uSe NoRmAl WoRdS?" - some knobhead
This does explain the difference type of vault suits in vault 111. The utility suits are used by scientists, and the tighter ones by the “experiments”
Fallout 76 combines all the pros of every Vault suit in game. But I'm curious how comfortable are they? Like, when you go to the bathroom, do you pull it all down from top to bottom? or is there another zipper for your thing or can you pull down the trousers? I mean, it is a 'jumpsuit' like most mechanics wear, right?
You just described the main flaw of jumpsuits. There isn’t another zipper in the crotch.
Bro imagine a woman in a jumpsuit taking a piss
$20 says "butt flaps"
@@adammitchell1290the PA recycles liquid waste into drinkable water as per FO2
The badge like thing on the vault suit is most likely a dosineter. It detects how much radiation you are exposed to over time. X-ray Techs have to wear something similar and get it examined weekly/monthly.
I always figured it was something that interfaced with the pipboy, a health/status sensor type thing.
I always figured it was a communicator
@LucyWest370 Our radio worked just fine. that's. how we were able to have drone support and call for the wrecker. I'm not saying it was definitely the charms, but that was the only time we ever got stuck like that like that in 7 1/2 months.
"strips the wearer of their individuality"
Butch Deloria begs to differ, baby, Tunnel Snakes rule over Vault Tec
The og vault 13 suit will always be my favorite!
I thought the skin tight suit was perfect as an undersuit for different kinds of armor/exosuits. Depending on the task, anti radiation suit, industrial heavy lifting, underwater exploration, etc. Looked like the practical use for it.
It honestly would make sense for different materials to be used for different suits it's not uncommon for companies to outsource multiple contractors for the same product and if the specifications are loose in terms of requirements they have to meet the suits could vary wildly.
The vault suits in f4 are literally just modified wet suits, the suits in f3 always seemed more comfortable and practical in a working environment, and the utility version just looks cool, especially the vault 101 utility version, who wouldnt want sand shoes in the apocalypse😂
Fallout 4's looks much more like what The Vault Dweller and their Great-Grandchild wore in Fallout 1 & Fallout 2.
i like the F3 and NV suits and i like that the F76 suits are a nice blend between the F4 which called back to the original suites and the more utility of the F3/NV suit though i wish they kept the belt, still keep the gold trim around the waits but it needs a belt.
It took me nearly 10 years to realize the vault 111 suit made sense design wise for the purpse it had. Still hate it though.
Yeah. One of the first mods I got for Fallout 4 was one that changed the suit design.
Eh, I kinda like it being skintight, completely in line with og Fallout. If only male and female characters had their nipples poking out, maybe with some overly detailed muscle definition if your character is muscular
You know...I know FO76 is a bit controversial in the Fallout community with good reason, but one thing they absolutely NAILED is the Vault Suit design! This is the perfect design imo. It still keeps that sleek futuristic spandex look while also being more baggier and practical like the vault suits in FO3/NV. When we get FO5(Whenever that is) I hope they keep this design!...Also, as a PC player I hope someone someday mods FO76's vault suit into FO4.
what is this good reason?
@@ErathCzThis was the good reason back then:
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@@ErathCzrecently started playing it, have 100+ hours already. The problem with 76 is that it's a shitty RPG. Its nature as a live service game strips your decisions from all meaning. You know nothing'll change in the world - thousand of other players are still yet to complete this quest you've just finished. I constantly get notifications like "The Scorched Queen's reign of terror has been ended", meaning someone had just "completed" the main story, but I know I haven't. It's still out there. And once I have, it'll stay there. Actually populated areas with lots of NPCs are just expedition locations. What really bugs me is that the stealing system, per se, has been entirely cut. You can waltz into a neutral raiders' camp or the BoS fort and clean off the shelves, no one will bat an eye. Attacking these NPCs will also lead to nothing. The game has a huge problem with ammo management. You constantly get loads of ammo from enemies, and have little to no methods of dispatching unused ammunition. You can't scrap it, you can't sell it to NPC vendors; you can either shoot it away, somehow manage to peddle it to other players or dispose of it in the ammo converter machine with a terrible UI. Survival system is also lacking compared to the FO4, due to the "fatigue" system being cut. (Also, the interior of the Whitespring resort is so fucking ugly, but that's beside the point.)
What I think FO76 does best is building (you have to acquire plans and recipes instead of just knowing what to do from the start), perk system (which is pretty convenient and versatile), power armor (it remains a delight from the FO4, but doesn't break as easily), the item condition system (I love how food actually spoils now), and the main quest with the world map itself keeping me pretty engaged. I've never felt bored during my 100 hours, and I often get reasonably challenged by enemies. The game generously rewards you with premium currency, letting you get a lot of stuff from the store with you just playing the game. Idk if it'll stay that way in the late game, though.
There's a ton of reasons. Foremost for me is they made.it impossible to play let alone play long term without a fallout first sub.
If you don't pay in good luck ever storing anything you find and would like to try out I'm your adventure.
Scrap. Ammo. Weapons armor. There's no hope to store any of it without coughing up 13 bucks a month.
Before you argue with me know I have 1300+ hours in 76.
I damn well know what I'm talking about.
@@Pwnopolis i'm bulking my steel, wood, cloth and other materials and sell it to players. So far so good
*the gold was especially vibrant on 76 jumpsuits because of West Virginia’s colors “Old gold and blue” (I always thought it sounded better as old blue and gold but what do I know I’m just a poet)*
I prefer Vault suit 13, because of nostalgic reasons. It introduced the vault dweller and the Fallout game itself. If you haven't played it, you missed out on some good old school gaming.
The original jumpsuit probably looked like that due to the technical limitations of the hardware
76's suit is my favorite one of few things i like about the game
Was thinking this the other day, looks like a good mix of utility and fashion
They should make the vault suits a bigger part of the next game like build in emergency gas mask, heating, emergency beacon
Yo, just wanted to say - this is awesome, and a pretty unique subject. Really interesting - thank you for putting it together!
I really like Fallout 3's and New Vegas's vault suits
I love how we didn't talk about the thumbnail
Fun fact. With the last update there are additional suits in fallout 4. Much more loose and seem closer to the ones from fallout 3
I've always figured that while vault suits might look different from game to game, they're still all the same in universe.
While your video was somewhat informative your thumbnail was misleading, you didn't explain what that was at all or how it works. I always thought it was an EKG because there is right near the heart and that the port was in the back but I didn't get an answer because you didn't explore that.
Sorry about that, been ages since this was made and thought I explained what it was, my bad. Yeah it's likely some kind of monitor that syncs up with the rest of the suit. I did think initially it might have been used to interface with the vault but that's what PipBoys are partially used for
@@LoreTours no problem I'm just curious why no one else ever explored where those two silver things are connected by the black wire
I feel like he kinda said it was in interface port somewhere like a minute and a half or so in.
@@hayden3483 I though the interface was the one at the base of the back, looks like some screws in or plugs in there.
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What could be added? Graffiti!
Ie.:
modding in a selection of marine paints that can be used to reskin the vault suits with patterns, messages & devices, eg. the radiation warning symbol, the peace sign, "Tunnel snakes rule!" , &tc.
Excellent video! I’ve always thought about these details
Thanks!
Its test subject clothing to monitor their guineapigs and keep variables consistent.
Vault Tec suits are also anti-radiation. As we seen in TV show, they are advertised for that purpose (meaning not fake, only not as good as advertised for, thus that funny scene with Cooper), but for lower levels of radiation (post nukes) will do in most cases.
Thankfully, as biologically proven, human hands and head don't need any protection from radiation
@@NiCoNiCoNiCola Hands and head need protection (one of reasons why Vault Tec suits are not good as advertised for) but with rad is about surface exposed too: in lower rad levels, having most of your body covered, will make A HUGE difference than having entire surface of the body exposed.
I liked the jumpsuit from Fallout 4. Reminded me of a hero costume kinda.
1:32 so that's a transmitter, cool.
Rubber is such a bad idea for a fabric.
agree
omg.. the sweat 😢
Now this is the kind of abscure lore i like!
On survival mode without your suit since it has scanners on it it would be cool if it took your health hud away or limited how accurate it is but with it it’s more accurate
I still love how it looks on my character, but I don't wear it much. I prefer either clothing that doubles as underclothes for armor, or just the armor itself. Plus I like how some outfits look more than the armor.
Bioscanners and such does make sense, but I wonder about two things...
1. Where is the data going?
2. Where is the tech development?
3. Rubber is crazy hot, so why choose something so impractical for hotter temps (summer)?
4. Youve made a lot of good points, but I really believe that for the suits to be worn above ground, you should have an outside suit. Underground, it is cold, except near geothermal vents. The surface is another environment altogether. Seems like they didn't think things through, logically or practically for residents.
5. What about the ghoul or fev vaults?
6. Did any vault not use suits at all?
gotta say I have always preferred the rugged utility jumpsuit style of 3/NV. The skintight rubberiness of 1 always looked flimsy (and too sexy to be practical) and the golden trim of 4/76 has the same tightness/impracticality issue while also looking a bit too extravagant for my liking
well, it's over the ribs, so it could be anything from a built in pacemaker to a card holder
So then, the ragged loincloth from the dying hobo I upgrade the vault suits with immediately after the tutorial is hiding even more impressive tech? :O
what should be added too the suits: (merely a shallow remark on my behalve) stated as such: the vault dweller inventory can contain up too 250 lbs of items if one i strong enough. maybe the suit especially the pants need an extra pocket for the fatboy i am carry-ing around. while holding a .22 silencer gun. (ha ha just messing with ya. the suits look excellent, sturdy and robuust, the colors are fine. all looks very mature and the texture varys from soft too sturdy are also fine. they are like pyama's and a good undercoat. although i am not font off any lab equitpment or any expiriments. and those attachements probably sleep and sit uncomfortable. maybe just a vault suit. without those body sensors. just a suit that principle says. i like comfort. maybe with a knitband. for personal patches too give it a personal touch at last. too break with vault tec rules and personalize them anyway. although a common sense of uniformity and standing as a team strong in the wasteland has it charmes and beauty above the cockyness of it all. if clothes makes the man. then who makes the clothes ?
My theory:
Skin Tight suits = Vault-Tek Vault
Loose fitting suits = Rob-Co partnered Vault
Tight Suits with more asessibilty and use (76) = West-Tek Partnered Vault
do you know where it's confirmed about the interface ports? I've been trying to find some more info about these vault jumpsuits, but have been struggling to find information from the games or the devs themselves regarding this specific detail
"To dehumanize them"- Every uniform ever, dude.
It's a shame that it would be basically impossible to standardize certain designs to certain vaults. For example, vaults 101 and 111 should have been a perfect candidate for the recyclable pure rubber suits, since they were designed to never ever open. Whereas the comfort and function forward denim and leather suits would have been better candidates for vaults like 13 and 31/32/33 as they were meant to be opened, but only after a much more extended period of time, compared to the inbetween designs like we see in 76.
I prefer the Fallout New Vegas Vault-Tec jumpsuits. I’ve never been one to enjoy wearing anything skin tight and the utilitarian design with the pockets at knee pads just seems like it would be more practical.
It's honestly kind of interesting that 76 has the most modern and high tech uniform despite 76 being the first game canonically to take place
So this might be a obvious question but I m I only played fallout four and haven't gotten into the lore until recently. Is that device that monitores the vault dweller Vital Signs how you can check on your health in the ,Pip boy?
I honestly like the more utilitarian vault jumpsuits from 3 and NV
Also, it made it easy for the game developers.
Pearl (Vault 34) was a looker!
An interesting thoughts.
Otherwise,why would you be asked to bring the vault suite from a different vaults,if you could easily produce/extrude 'em??
vault idea put the top fashion people and beauty people and put them in a vault with just vault suits like fallout 1 & 2 so no fancy foil and see how quickly choas happens we all know one person who would go mad in this vault.
I thought it was a H2 monitor on their chest lol
Fallout 76's suits are not as skin tight as FO4, it goes back to the classic fallout / fo3 style suits of being more wrinkled and loose, these appear in the TV show as well. Glad they didnt use the fo4 one.
rubber suits while walking in the california desert?
Tbh, fallout 3's suits look the best to me... I mean they just seem perfect for a vault don't they?
Its like residential vaults had more practical jumpsuits while test vaults had cheap ones
I like the rubber one. Seems more PPE quality.
ngl i thought the weird phone lookin thing was a nokia and just nokias were the only postwar things that survived cus in new vegas there were phone lookin things imbedded into the road
I don't think they used different materials for the vault suits. After all, Fallout 1 and 2 are set in California\ Nevada\ Arizona, as it FNV, so it makes no sense for them to use different suits, or for the suits in the Mojave to be the same as the ones in D.C. - literally on the opposite end of the country and continent. And then, the jumpsuits in the Capital Wasteland are different from the ones in the Commonwealth and West Virginia, despite all being set in the same general area?
No, the only reason for the suits to be different is if we go by the live-action show's lore, where they say that different vaults are run by different corporations.
Although you do make a good point about the suits having different designs based on their respective vaults' functions.
In every fallout game I made sure to ditch the vault soon as soon as humanly possible. It's not not exactly nice to look at let alone wear. Looks goofy.
I think I prefer the more loose baggy suits over the near skin tight ones in 4.
the classic designes were as such because Vault Tec wasnt evil till Bethesda snagged it up.
I liked fallout 4, just felt cool. Also probably because it was my first fallout.
I like fallout 3 and new vegas the best honestly
Where is the scene at 2:23 from?
You didn’t mention that the enclave wore them in the oil rig
Extruded rubber sounds extremely uncomfortable.
And extruding rubber sounds rather painful
If I had to ranks the vault jumpsuits from best to worse(with no game bias) it’s probably Fallout 4, Fallout 1/2, Fallout 76, Fallout 3/NV. I’m sorry to the Fallout 3 & New Vegas fan, the games are great it’s just that the vault jumpsuits in those games looks like clunky mechanical jackets with weird metal pieces that doesn’t look comfortable/right. I also hated the weird ass vault glove they had in those games too. I’m glad Fallout 4 & 76 got rid of them.
Paraphrasing here: but does it REALLY provide any defense to radiation? 🤔😂
There are no zippers in the front or back. For ease of access.
i love the fallout 76 jump suit but new vegas one isnt bat at all f4 and all the others dont give me that feeling of being safe in them
Needs a mentat dispenser
So what is the thing highlighted on the thumbnail then?
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@@SptmbrsVryOwn Thank you
Its the health monitor that connect to the pipboy?
101 suits my favorite
MORE POCKETS!
From what I've seen of the series they should have gone spandex type material...
What about underclothes? Did VT provide them too? LOL
Yes they should just add this to Fallout 5 you can change the color of your suits and you can change the appearance simple material to leather you can add special paddings white cargo pants adding more pockets
I think the women's vault suits in Vault 69 should have been built similar to corsets albeit with deep v-necks and with a much tighter fit around the crotch and the ass, if you catch my drift. Perhaps, some midriff could've also been showing? And, yes, that's actually canon, considering where the vault number comes from.
I think they should put a bo.mb under your car
@@cactusgamingyt9960what the fuck
I like the kneepads
“Voute”
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I love this video bro
Rubber in a world where oil reserves run dry?
More Pockets! Always More Pockets!
What rubber? Try wearing a rubber suit (or even a pair of rbber gloves or boots) for a few hours. You'll quickly realize how terrible that idea is.
And to wear a skin-tight full body jumpsuit made of rubber would be totally impossible.
You'll overheat and rot in your own sweat, probably, in a couple days.
anyone know where the image a 0:18 comes from
That's some Fallout 3 concept art
Blue gimp suit for me
Vary from Voolt to Voolt. VOOLT.