Nuclear war is scary... If you're instantly vaporized, you're lucky. If you die from 3rd degree burns, or radiation sickness, you're less lucky... But slowly dying from starvation in a bleak cold world, watching those you know drop dead again and again while you fight to stay alive... That's truly scary.
Counter theory: A possible reason that the bombs shown in the start of the show and games were so small was because they were the bombs that vault tec launched to start the war as stated at the end of the show
There was also no evidence in the video that anything "dropped". As noted in the film theory video - all the blasts were much smaller than expected - so more likely "suitcase" bombs or low yield privately made devices including dirty bombs as noted in other comments. If I didn't think it was giving the writers too much credit, I would suspect that his is an easter egg that the show will come back to in future flashbacks - showing how the vault makers actually started the war...
would be interesting to know what buildings and offices are close to the impact zones, maybe vault-tec making sure people in the know definitely stay silent
@@jsmckillop64As another comment mentioned in almost every game the most radiated areas are around power plants and other pre war radiated areas rather than sites where the bombs landed making the chance of at least the original bombs not being nuclear in the first place
this makes sense considering the bombs by vault tec were supposed to be "dirty bombs", not meant to destroy everything but meant to spread as much radiation as possible. Edit: i just realized i wrote this wrong, should've said salted bombs.
Something I've noticed in the games is that a lot of the greater hot spots, like the Glowing Sea, tend to be around nuclear power plants, rather than just being ground zero for nuclear bombs. Given how common nuclear power sources are in the Fallout universe, it makes sense that meltdowns would be common as well, ranging from power plant sized all the way down to car sized.
They also seem to target Nuclear weapon storage sites, that would have a similar effect since those bombs would not have detonated just been destroyed sending their fuel s radioactive particles into the air.
I always assumed that, since they produced more radiation than "normal", that they used a bunch of dirty nukes to create as much radiation as possible. Those types of nukes exist. They are called neutron bombs or ERWs. Depending on how much fissile material was thrown out in the fallout, may take up to 30 years for that stuff to decay to a safe level. Not 200 years. Bombing nuclear power plants seems much more likely the reason for the irradiated earth of Fallout. Supposedly, there were tons of them before the bombs dropped.
Everyone is like “oh, I don’t like the channel anymore, there’s no MatPat” Buddy, at least we HAVE the channel still around, be grateful. Me personally, I think that he’s doing great!
They only told staff and security that so they would maintain the vault until Vault-Tec could remotely monitor it, which never happened. They were never intended to survive and thrive, they were sent there to die after their 6 months of supplies ran out.
@@TheAlcoholic27 in the logs it says that they were to open the doors after 180 days but they were too scared to open the vault door. They ended up having a mutiny of sorts but at the end they decided to never open the door because they thought they would die
@@kevinarzola4781 They tried but the overseer and disabled the door to the vault room and locked himself in his office. Overseer knew the surrounding area would be too irradiated to leave after just 6 months and he didn't want them letting radiation into the vault as they tried to leave.
@angelramirezgarcia8264 It's all loose canon now but Vault-Tec loosing connection due to work being unfinished/being caught off guard/facilities unexpectedly destroyed/etc was aluded to in FO1 & 2. Either way, they wouldn't have survived the wasteland just 180 days after the bombs fell, even the Overseer mentions that in his logs. Vault 111 staff were disposable, they were only given enough supplies for six months, which by then Vault-Tec was supposed to take over operations remotely.
@@Softnwet12 fr, I saw someone here complaining about "ruining this show" but also missing matpat. Like Matpat didn't brag about ruining our childhoods.
@Softnwet12 I guess for a lot of people what really brought game theory to life was matt. I'm not saying the new host is bad, it's just not the same for those who have had matt be a massive piece in their childhoods. I'll be honest this is my 5th attempt at watching a game theory video and its just not clicking. Again I'm not saying the new host is bad or anything, he's just not matt and that's OK, I'm sure that the newer generation are loving the new videos. In the end i personally think it isn't ok to judge people when they complain about both not liking the new host and liking the new host, since in the end everyone should have their own opinion. (In my case, I'll stay with the older videos as a form of nostalgia)
1 important detail missed: Vault Tech wanted to start the war themself, so it could be said that the first view nukes where smaller to give themself enough time to react, to throw the rest of the world into a full out nuclear war. Also, i think its said that Vault Tech used some other nukes afterwards to specificly spread more radiation, so elongatting the fallout. On top of that, Vault Tech and other companys had preaded a lot of missinformation around nuclear fussion and nukes in general. For example, the all the Fusion stuff, was actually unstable Fision marketed as Fusion. It would also not be too far off that Vault tech had their hands a bit deeper in other countrys nuclear projects than we might know.
the official fallout timeline AND the developers from the original game say that china were the first to launch the nukes. dont know about vault tec elongating fallout, but i wouldn't be shocked.
@@Rebirth._Watch the show, apparently also the latest games hint at Vault Tec being the ones who triggered China and the US into launching their full blown nukes at each other. I’ve yet to watch the show but there’s that info at the least.
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we also cant forget that even if it would be safe to leave the vaults very soon, vault-tec didnt want people to leave the vaults. they wanted to keep their experiments going, so they made it almost impossible to actually leave the vaults. the only times we see people actually leaving them is if something happened, like what we see in the fallout show, 3 and 4. 76 is an outlier though since vault-tec actually wanted them to leave.
@@thatguy2521 well no, i think anyone with a pipboy from the vault can open it. it was opened from the outside with roses, lucys brother could open it, and they aren't the overseer only related to him. its mostly the propaganda keeping them in the vaults since they think everywhere outside is uninhabitable until the raiders break in, proving that life can and does exist outside
You overall simply don't need a vault to survive. Just be away from cities and military bases and alike. Then make sure to stay inside and that radioactive dust doesn't get in (most heavy radiation will be alpha and beta and not get into your house. The collapse of society and everything that comes from this will be a much bigger problem on its own.
So after watching the season it can be explained like this: Vault tec launched first those small bombs. Big enough to start a nuclear war but small enough that people can seek shelter in their vault before the big ones are dropping. the big ones then have so much radiation that it takes longer so become safe again. also civilisation has a lot of nuclear powered objects, that added to the total amount of radiation.
Big bombs don't have more radiation. If anything they have less as most of their energy comes from fusion not Fission. An example is the tsar bomba which was the largest device ever detonated with a yield of 50 megatons. Its energy came to 98% from fusion and it barely produced any fallout.
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This makes me realize how devastating the effects of a nuclear fallout can be. The attention to detail and science-based theories in this video are astonishing. I truly hope we never live to experience such catastrophe.
I would also include one caveat to the Vaults. As we see when we visit many of the vaults in the games, the Vaults were not necessarily holding their residents for safety reasons. It seems that many of the Vaults were set up as long term social and scientific experiments. Often using the fear of radiation rather than the actuality of it to keep the residents from going outside and ending the experiments.
The vast majority were tests. There were very very few "control vaults" where there were no tests. I think something like 17 vaults were actually meant to preserve life. All the others are tests/experiments
The opening scene bothered me because i was thinking, so many nukes on such a small.area is just overkill. But with your evaluation that the bombs were much smaller, its easier to accept. Thank you for your analysis!
I'd like to point out that fallout takes time to drop to the earth, it's not like the area around the blast zone immediately becomes irradiated. The Ghoul would definitely have time to seek shelter, even if the higher yield bombs were dropped closer and caused more major damage to his surroundings he'd at least be capable of moving.
...ignoring the bots: But would it with these kind of smaller bombs? The fallout being tossed up so high it reaches beyond the atmosphere is as far as I know the biggest issue, as without being as much part of climate and winds, it would take so much longer to drop, causing sunlight to be deflected and a prolonged and wider spread eventual fallout. But these bombs and their mushroom clouds seem to not even quite reach airplane heights? Wouldn't the irradiated ashes drop much quicker (more condensed, though)? Not right away, though, so OP's point seems valid, but within hours. There may not even be a nuclear winter from the depicted bombs... (Or shorter one, because with so many bombs it would still leave the "lower" atmosphere thick with ashes, for a while, causing large scale acid and radiated rains.) - am agreeing, actually, with OP, but think there's even some more misjudgement in the video, if we're actually talking this much smaller bombs.
Those took forever to report them all. Anyway, the danger wasn't fallout, but the initial detonation. For the larger atomic warheads he was close enough for gamma radiation (along with thermal radiation and the blast wave) to be immediate. And the detonation is spherical. In fact, most fallout goes down before being sent upwards with such a low altitude detonation. These are airbursts, but not as high up as you would use normally - which fits with the fallout being greater than expected.
wouldn't matpat do a pixel measurement to get an estimate of how tall the buildings in the show was? like by researching how tall the griffith building was and using that as a basis for the skyscrapers in the show ?
I'm having a serious Mandella effect here... I REALLY remember MatPat doing a GameTheory episode talking about the yield and devastation of the bombs and that they were likely far smaller than what we're imagining, but because of the Nuclear reactors in most homes, every car, etc, etc, That lead to the nuclear fallout everywhere despite the explosive damage being contained to certain areas. But I cannot find this episode, so I have no idea why I have this memory...
After watching the full vid-- he does not. He also thinks the bombs “fell” (which is how it’s said in the show) without any planes in the sky… The bombs were detonated from the ground, especially the first one given the plumage. The others were detonated shortly above buildings, or possibly even on the buildings. He’s also under the impression nukes give off radiation, which is not necessarily true. Some of the areas in universe were intentionally salted by nukes, but not all nukes do that. For example- your fatman in game does not dose you with rads in a wide area, and this is true to real life.
@@CAjokeRCAwe also don’t see the bombs so your point about there not being any planes in the sky is moot. If they were detonated on the ground, how would they be detonated shortly above buildings? How would they even be on the ground? How would an enemy of the United States get nukes on US soil?
Ok I have a theory, what if they weren't uranium or plutonium bombs but they were cobalt bombs or otherwise known as dirty bombs that aren't as destructive as normal nuclear warheads with uranium but are focused to cause as much nuclear radiation as possible, so they might've used these types of bombs.
you gotta think about the fact that vault tech were incredibly corrupt so they would not be above playing up the bombs and getting all these people into the vaults as a easy excuse for their experiments and such, people were kept in vaults for years, it wouldnt exactly cause all the damage we see in the games but decay of building would most likely be quite high as well as survivors recycling buildings and the environment to try to survive, just a thought i had.
There is litterally on fallout 1 and 2 maps, whole SQUARE OF KILOMETERS COVERED BY NUCLEAR CRATER. And, the ghoulification was not only rads, but its combination with FEV released in the air in massive quantity.
What you forgot is that in the episode where they talk about how Cooper is the Vault Boy model they also talk about testing radiation on him (probrably thee thing that turned Thaddeus into a ghoul) so if they did test that on Cooper he would regenerate from the fire and the radiation doesnt affect him. But his daughter would be cooked
Couple issues. 1) The Nuclear Winter issue? People inside Vaults that didn't open for a decade, or more, would most likely be coming out after the climate has started to re-stabilize. 2) The Deserts? Nuclear Winter would have led to food shortages, which would likely led to desperate and unsustainable farming methods that could have realistically depleted the lands ability to grow ANY form of plant life. Combine those with drought and/or high winds and the now arid land could turn into a Dust Bowl. If the cycle continues long enough... viola, man made desert. 3) The Radiation? What if the reduced blast sizes of the bombs was intentionally designed to specifically avoid consuming all the Plutonium/Uranium in the bombs so that they would spread Fallout designed to NOT decay quickly.
I mean, technically everything in the fallout world is powered by nuclear power in some form or another, including their cars, powered exoskeletons, and robots, the amount of radiation around can be attributed also to the fact that there's basically millions of small nuclear power plants EVERYWHERE all going without any maintenance for a LOOOOONG time.
The whole nuclear winter doesn't make sense anyway and has been debunked years ago. Regarding your third point, smaller yields don't produce more fallout.
I think they used smaller bombs because of the resource wars. The main source of fuel was uranium and nuclear power and even those were running out of resources. So instead of bigger bombs they had to use the resources for power plants and cars
I agree. I also think sending a bunch of smaller nukes would be able to overwhelm an air defense and create enough chaos to slip in the more destructive ones
No, sorry but you are wrong! :) You use smaller but much MORE weapons because: #1 More = less chance of enemy interceptors taking them all out, and glitches can't stop all of them either #2 Does more damage, same principle as why the military uses "cluster bombs", as huge nukes are a waste as most of the energy ends up going upwards into space and after you blast something flat any more energy is a waste!
That and if they wanted to maximize destruction on that scale with technology equal to the 1950s/60s and the chances of a nuke not going off and uranium being a rare supply using many small nukes sounds like a good idea
thats because in fallout lore the world is culturally stuck in the 50s because they never managed to invent the transistor that in todays world power our microchips in the fallout world everything is still using vacuum tubes
@IronPhysik well not everything. I. The games prior to 4 we had modern guns, modern military vehicles of the 90s, modern nuclear nukes of the 70s, etc
Well fashion does rotate from time to time. A lot of old trends tend to come back and go away so it could just be that in 2077 they brought back the retro 50s fashion.
The part about the bombs radiation levels being nearly gone after a week might be true, but in the fallout world nearly everything is nuclear powered (think of all the cars, and nuclear waste you see in the world), so all the radiation could be from everything that was destroyed on the ground from the bombs, making it unsafe because of some sort of miniature nuclear meltdown of each and every nuclear powered object. EDIT: Actually honestly maybe the bombs only had to be that size, it could be cost efficient cause of all the nuclear powered devices that would spew out radiation when destroyed on the ground.
The bombs could have also been designed in a way that only partially converts the Plutonium/Uranium into energy and the rest into a powder to ensure the Fallout would remain radioactive for centuries.
@@GaurdianPrimeThe only radioactive part of nuclear warheads is the uranium/plutonium. The fallout is tiny bits of these elements that failed to atomize. Dirty bombs are more inefficient and convert less of the mass of radioactive atoms to energy, resulting in more particles to spread radiation. Having nuclear warheads explode further up(aka having them airburst) also helps spread radiation more effectively.
@@IndigoSierra That's true, but you seem to have missed my point. I was pointing out a potential reason the Fallout's radiation hadn't decayed like it would normally have from a standard nuke.
The bombs in fallout are more similar to neutron bombs in engineering , so the thermal blast wouldn't be nearly as bad. The show obviously took some liberties but canonically they wouldn't have the calculated effects
Would the depicted bombs even cause an actual nuclear winter, since their clouds don't seem to reach higher altitudes /atmosphere levels? Temporary effect notwithstanding, nor their spread, due to the amount of bombs (ashes, acid rain, the implied "more radiation than expected" due to whatever radioactive materials used within the bombs), but a relatively "quick" fallout nonetheless?
I remember reading a while back that Fallout's nukes are different then our modern day ones. And how a lot of it is based on beliefs at the time. Back in a period before they knew about things like cancer and such, an era where rads gives you super powers not a death sentience. Its all intentionally part of the retro-futurisitc design of the series that its the apocalypitc version of the future the 50's and 60's envision.
@@CassidyShadewingIn our timeline there were survivors of high dosage radiation that lived to be 90+, healthier after in fact, because the radiation was just the right dosage and killed off unhealthy bacteria and such. serendipity
It's almost like some of the bombs, the first ones to hit, weren't meant to cause the massive destruction. Like... maybe, just maybe, they were there to spark things off and then let the massive retaliation bombs do the major destruction. If they weren't proper military weaponry, that would explain why they were so small, a more limited budget would mean less nuclear material to put into them. So, really, it could be both. The first bombs weren't enough to destroy everything, but the world was then destroyed by larger bombs later.
Also do keep in mind, that prewar America was heavy using atomic on all sorts of applications and aspects to day to day life. Which could be a catalyst for the fallout would...
You missed one important point. All information you based it on was from Vault-Tec, the company capitalizing on the end of the world. If they are the ones bombing to get people into their vaults, the explosions must be big enough to scare people into vaults, but small enough so that people make it into the vaults. When inside the vaults, dwellers could be fed all types of lies about number of bombs, amount of rads or about its half-life. The reasoning is to keep people in vaults as test subjects for experiments and a type of not so natural “natural selection” to rebuild the country. Vault-Tec has an enormous amount of power and with people in their vaults, they can play gods.
I keep asking this, but to my understanding nuclear winter is what happens when the ashes is pushed into the upper stratosphere, where - outside of climate and winds - it just sort of hangs, dropping much, much slower, dimming the light while it's up there. So as soon it was pointed out how small the bombs are, and their clouds also not seeming as high reaching... Would that even happen? The amount of bombs and resulting fires would surely thicken the lower atmosphere with ash and sut, but those particles should drop relatively quickly. (Still devastating, though, in its own right.)
You should totally do a theory on how video game adaptations like Fallout, the Sonic movies, the Super Mario movie and even the Fnaf movie have done so well and are succeeding yet others like Halo are still struggling with adapting to other mediums like movies and shows
I don’t know how much of that can be “scienced”. A lot of art is subjective and there are soooo many different variables. The process, fan base, network, year of release, budget, so many different things are hard to compare.
@@acgeewhiz Could talk about other things than science in this situation. Things like Sonic, Fallout, and FNAF are directed and produced by fans and the company that owns the video game. But things like Halo aren't produced and directed by fans and don't get the company involved.
@@RobocopStealerOfFridges I see what you’re saying, but you’re still comparing very different things. Sonic and FNAF are each essentially an hour and a half long movies. But one has a budget five times the other one. Halo and Fallout are both TV shows with like seven hours per season, but one has a production company that spent twice as much per episode. Also, 343 actually was involved with producing the Halo show. Sonic was pre-Covid19, Halo was split by it, while FNAF and Fallout were filmed after the depths of the pandemic. All of them adapted or changed a pre-existing timeline so you can’t even point to that. And while we are just looking at those four, to get a real grasp and develop a theory that holds up, you would need to also analyze 50+ more theatrical releases and dozens of TV shows, spanning live action and animated, the 1980’s to present, etc. You can’t just say “The fans made this one and that’s why it worked, and the fans didn’t make this one and that’s why it flopped.” And how would you even “prove” who are fans or not? What if the director is a fan but isn’t given free rein by the studio? What if they’re not a fan, but the screenwriter was? Where do you draw the line?
The thumbs up in fallout lore is actually referring to you being at a safe distance if your outstretched thumb covers the entirety of the nuclear mushroom cloud
The One thing you forgot to mention was the effects of the FEV Virus. That mixed with the High levels of radiation are the main reason we have the fallout world.
@@MislabledLabelyeah I don't get it either. Like it takes at least some effort but I doubt a single person would ever visit this udtp channel or whatever after reading one of these bot comments....
@2:03 Honestly, Game Theory doesn't *_even do much_* outside of horror game lore and gratuitous jumpscares anymore -- let alone the actual series shown -- so you're absolutely correct in brushing Tom off.
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I have to note, those very much look like ground bursts, which cause IMMENSELY more actual fallout than an airburst... the mushroom cloud then sucks up all the debris and earth into the sky and disperses much more irradiated material. This is a great deep dive, and thanks!
15:48 that “honestly, yeah” with that cadence is almost as theorist as it gets, I mean the amount of times matpat delivered that same line with almost the same delivery is crazy
Dont know if it was mentioned yet, but the fallout lore does actually mention severe winters caused by the great war, particularly the winter of 2078 mentioned in the fallout wiki on fandom, it also mentions other harsh winters after that. Just never shown in the games themselves yet. Great theory btw!
I wonder if one lore explanation could be, the bombs had the uranium for the higher yields that the book suggest but they didn't react as expected so there was way more uranium left over from all the small nukes, which would cause higher radiation more like a reactor meltdown?
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*TLDR: Basically the bombs are much smaller than expected, still in line with the lore. you can survive the Fallout Amazon explosion. radiation levels 99% low around 48 hours not hundreds of years to be safe.*
@@patcheye125 No it wouldn't lol, you'd need to detonate hundreds of thousands of nukes. Enough to turn a small country into a crater for that to happen
People are forgetting that most of the nukes dropped in the fallout games were probably cluster munitions since it was a cluster nuke it would probably show a light yield explosion similar to what the games and tv show had displayed. If it wasnt known the warhead used was a cluster munition
Honestly, it makes things so much more chilling to see that the creative license here was to *scale down* the destructive power of nuclear detonations.
I think it’s also to take into account that some of the bombs being dropped were Chinese in origin. So the Vault Dweller’s survival guide could be talking about the American nukes, and the Chinese nukes could be made of a different material that made a smaller explosion but spreads more fallout particles.
Thank you for not leaving it at just the first half. But also including the "so what would be plausible given what we see" and finally rounding out the episode with the "forgotten effects and consequences "
Ok so I never post a comment but I love fallout and I can explain the low yield nukes seen all over the place in fallout. We have an idea that vault-TEC dropped the bombs to trigger the Great War and secure their vault experiments. We also know then that vaul-TEC had nukes in their arsenal. If you are vault-TEC would it not make sense to drop extremely low yield nukes in all the areas that were surrounding your vaults? Knowing that this would certainly be enough to trigger the larger nukes to evaporate everything else and leaving the areas they targeted much more habitable and thus conducive to resettlement by them? Loved the video let me know if this theory makes sense to anyone else!!!
The big difference I always considered was that society in Fallout relied heavily upon individual nuclear use. Everything was nuclear, so it was tiny nuclear meltdowns all over the world
I remember someone said the bombs were not meant for airburst but to hit as close to the ground as possible to get more Fallout. They were designed to explode and create as much radiation as possible, making the ground zero radiate longer. Scorched Earth was the word for it. You don't want the enemy country to be able to rebuild fast.
Airburst creates more fallout. The radiation is tiny bits of uranium/plutonium that failed to atomize. If the warhead detonates close to the ground, more of these particles get buried in the dirt, causing very high radiation in a small area. In an airburst, more of these particles are carried up into the atmosphere by the mushroom cloud, and cause massive, widespread fallout.
@@juliandacosta6841 it disperses much further, affecting a larger area. Ground burst mostly stays heavily concentrated in the blast crater which is quite small. You would need tens of millions of warheads to create the level of fallout in fallout if you used ground burst.
The only piece of writing that bugged me more than the nukes was the bugged pip-boy... "Oh I've totally noticed that my Pip-boy is transmitting data to an unknown place, now don't mind me while I announce to everyone that I'm bringing a bugged pip-boy into potentially the most important, exclusive and secretive meeting in the history of man."
15:42 this is probably because fallout one and two weren’t made by Bethesda only 3,4,76 and the series so we’d probably have to dig into info from those games to see how strong the bombs were in the same “company cannon”
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Can confirm, my dad let me read some of the contigency plans about what if the bombs dropped (non classified work stuff back in the 80's). Basically that 3 weeks was the estimated time for it to be safe raidiation wise.
It’s kinda crazy how a lot of the comments are still talking about matpat, just shows how much of an impact he made on this channel and on the internet
not trynna be mean but I mean he literally ran it for years obviously people are still gonna talk abt him he barely left. its like the main character dying after a couple seasons people are gonna talk abt them forever
One thing stated in several parts of the game was that radiation was already epidemic levels before the bombs dropped due to the resource wars. Radios, televisions and cars ran off nuclear power. The waste disposal was atrocious so pockets of contamination existed prewar. Who knows how it was spread but big explosions would work rather well.
Since they say it releases more radiation than expected and the mushroom cloud is also smaller than expected, could it me that the nukes didn't convert all the radioactive substances into energy there for smaller explosion and more radioactivity?
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Nuclear war is scary...
If you're instantly vaporized, you're lucky. If you die from 3rd degree burns, or radiation sickness, you're less lucky...
But slowly dying from starvation in a bleak cold world, watching those you know drop dead again and again while you fight to stay alive... That's truly scary.
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That’s just life. Nuclear war doesn’t scare me. Macarthur was right
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What scares me is to end end like the firefighters from Chernobyl the series.
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Counter theory: A possible reason that the bombs shown in the start of the show and games were so small was because they were the bombs that vault tec launched to start the war as stated at the end of the show
Exactly. That’s why you don’t see any bombs actually fall out of the sky in the beginning of the show!
There was also no evidence in the video that anything "dropped". As noted in the film theory video - all the blasts were much smaller than expected - so more likely "suitcase" bombs or low yield privately made devices including dirty bombs as noted in other comments. If I didn't think it was giving the writers too much credit, I would suspect that his is an easter egg that the show will come back to in future flashbacks - showing how the vault makers actually started the war...
Was surprised that he didn’t go this route in the video. I was thinking this as well
would be interesting to know what buildings and offices are close to the impact zones, maybe vault-tec making sure people in the know definitely stay silent
@@jsmckillop64As another comment mentioned in almost every game the most radiated areas are around power plants and other pre war radiated areas rather than sites where the bombs landed making the chance of at least the original bombs not being nuclear in the first place
this makes sense considering the bombs by vault tec were supposed to be "dirty bombs", not meant to destroy everything but meant to spread as much radiation as possible.
Edit: i just realized i wrote this wrong, should've said salted bombs.
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There was also FEV being leaked into the environment, if not spread by the fallout itself.
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Something I've noticed in the games is that a lot of the greater hot spots, like the Glowing Sea, tend to be around nuclear power plants, rather than just being ground zero for nuclear bombs. Given how common nuclear power sources are in the Fallout universe, it makes sense that meltdowns would be common as well, ranging from power plant sized all the way down to car sized.
They also seem to target Nuclear weapon storage sites, that would have a similar effect since those bombs would not have detonated just been destroyed sending their fuel s radioactive particles into the air.
Yeah I think it’s more a tactical nukes that are used n that would explain why they used 77 nukes in new Vegas vs less then 10
I always assumed that, since they produced more radiation than "normal", that they used a bunch of dirty nukes to create as much radiation as possible. Those types of nukes exist. They are called neutron bombs or ERWs. Depending on how much fissile material was thrown out in the fallout, may take up to 30 years for that stuff to decay to a safe level.
Not 200 years. Bombing nuclear power plants seems much more likely the reason for the irradiated earth of Fallout. Supposedly, there were tons of them before the bombs dropped.
ya waste sites & old reactors are worse than the nuke sites
car sized?? think again, power armor exists
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@@deadpool3982how do you report the channel itself
@@deadpool3982 what do i report them with? like what option?
Everyone is like “oh, I don’t like the channel anymore, there’s no MatPat”
Buddy, at least we HAVE the channel still around, be grateful. Me personally, I think that he’s doing great!
First video I've watched since Matt left and honestly though he is missed these are still great video's with a great presenter
Anyone who falls to shill for corporate sponsors like warframe has no value. Real streamers don’t take sponsors.
@@xbon1Bro if anyone wants to have a career on the internet they’re gonna have to take sponsors
@@xbon1what are you smoking, sponsorships are incredibly common
Homeless streamers* @@xbon1
In fallout 4, vault 111 was supposed to closed for 180 days if you read the computer entries but they never got the all clear signal
They only told staff and security that so they would maintain the vault until Vault-Tec could remotely monitor it, which never happened. They were never intended to survive and thrive, they were sent there to die after their 6 months of supplies ran out.
@@TheAlcoholic27 in the logs it says that they were to open the doors after 180 days but they were too scared to open the vault door.
They ended up having a mutiny of sorts but at the end they decided to never open the door because they thought they would die
@@kevinarzola4781 They tried but the overseer and disabled the door to the vault room and locked himself in his office. Overseer knew the surrounding area would be too irradiated to leave after just 6 months and he didn't want them letting radiation into the vault as they tried to leave.
180 days would be enough according to this video, so if they didn't contact, could it be because Vault-Tech was destroyed?
@angelramirezgarcia8264 It's all loose canon now but Vault-Tec loosing connection due to work being unfinished/being caught off guard/facilities unexpectedly destroyed/etc was aluded to in FO1 & 2. Either way, they wouldn't have survived the wasteland just 180 days after the bombs fell, even the Overseer mentions that in his logs. Vault 111 staff were disposable, they were only given enough supplies for six months, which by then Vault-Tec was supposed to take over operations remotely.
I like how these videos don’t have that much of a decrease in viewers. Shows that people are still interested in the new hosts
Not hosts, just the topics.
@@JB-1138it was always the topics, I always liked matpats but I only ever watched whenever the video interested me. Idk why people are complaining
@@Softnwet12 fr, I saw someone here complaining about "ruining this show" but also missing matpat. Like Matpat didn't brag about ruining our childhoods.
I haven't watched much since the new hosts took over, but that had more to do with the fact I got married than anything else.
@Softnwet12 I guess for a lot of people what really brought game theory to life was matt. I'm not saying the new host is bad, it's just not the same for those who have had matt be a massive piece in their childhoods. I'll be honest this is my 5th attempt at watching a game theory video and its just not clicking. Again I'm not saying the new host is bad or anything, he's just not matt and that's OK, I'm sure that the newer generation are loving the new videos. In the end i personally think it isn't ok to judge people when they complain about both not liking the new host and liking the new host, since in the end everyone should have their own opinion. (In my case, I'll stay with the older videos as a form of nostalgia)
Film theory…
Film theory never changes.
In all seriousness you’re doing a killer job, Lee!
1 important detail missed:
Vault Tech wanted to start the war themself, so it could be said that the first view nukes where smaller to give themself enough time to react, to throw the rest of the world into a full out nuclear war.
Also, i think its said that Vault Tech used some other nukes afterwards to specificly spread more radiation, so elongatting the fallout.
On top of that, Vault Tech and other companys had preaded a lot of missinformation around nuclear fussion and nukes in general. For example, the all the Fusion stuff, was actually unstable Fision marketed as Fusion. It would also not be too far off that Vault tech had their hands a bit deeper in other countrys nuclear projects than we might know.
Please put a spoilers I'm sure that's why he didn't mention any real spoilers
the official fallout timeline AND the developers from the original game say that china were the first to launch the nukes. dont know about vault tec elongating fallout, but i wouldn't be shocked.
@@Rebirth._Watch the show, apparently also the latest games hint at Vault Tec being the ones who triggered China and the US into launching their full blown nukes at each other. I’ve yet to watch the show but there’s that info at the least.
I love it when film theory can steal from game theory
@SkibiditoiIetyesyes_UTTPyou like skibidi toilet your opinion doesn’t matter
film theory is like game theories younger sibling constantly eating from its older siblings food 😂
also, rip ur replies, theres so many bots in these channels comments its crazy
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we also cant forget that even if it would be safe to leave the vaults very soon, vault-tec didnt want people to leave the vaults. they wanted to keep their experiments going, so they made it almost impossible to actually leave the vaults. the only times we see people actually leaving them is if something happened, like what we see in the fallout show, 3 and 4. 76 is an outlier though since vault-tec actually wanted them to leave.
In the show only one person could open the vault door too
@@thatguy2521 well no, i think anyone with a pipboy from the vault can open it. it was opened from the outside with roses, lucys brother could open it, and they aren't the overseer only related to him. its mostly the propaganda keeping them in the vaults since they think everywhere outside is uninhabitable until the raiders break in, proving that life can and does exist outside
@@pandom_ran I was talking about that one person they took with them that they needed to open the door
and fallout 1
You overall simply don't need a vault to survive.
Just be away from cities and military bases and alike.
Then make sure to stay inside and that radioactive dust doesn't get in (most heavy radiation will be alpha and beta and not get into your house.
The collapse of society and everything that comes from this will be a much bigger problem on its own.
I love how food theory is just the gremlin making cameos in the other channels, popping up out of nowhere, it’s so fun seeing the channels interact
Lol its so real! (Ignore the bots)
I know about the bots, dw. Just report them for spam/harassment and move on
True, it feels so alive. Even more with just matpat (even thow i loved when Austin show up)
Tom and Santi(Game & Food Theory) are having fun doing that. I can tell XD
So after watching the season it can be explained like this:
Vault tec launched first those small bombs. Big enough to start a nuclear war but small enough that people can seek shelter in their vault before the big ones are dropping. the big ones then have so much radiation that it takes longer so become safe again. also civilisation has a lot of nuclear powered objects, that added to the total amount of radiation.
Big bombs don't have more radiation. If anything they have less as most of their energy comes from fusion not Fission. An example is the tsar bomba which was the largest device ever detonated with a yield of 50 megatons. Its energy came to 98% from fusion and it barely produced any fallout.
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@@leo_the_be0I’m not dead lol
@Firey. The Dead Internet Theory is about whether the majority of people on the internet is real, or just bots. Not whether a person is actually deceased or not. Lol.
This makes me realize how devastating the effects of a nuclear fallout can be. The attention to detail and science-based theories in this video are astonishing. I truly hope we never live to experience such catastrophe.
You and me both buddy
Putin thinks otherwise
I'd just want to be at ground-zero. Nothing about surviving looks better than instant death.
Xi Jinping and his lapdog Kim Jung Un think otherwise
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I would also include one caveat to the Vaults. As we see when we visit many of the vaults in the games, the Vaults were not necessarily holding their residents for safety reasons. It seems that many of the Vaults were set up as long term social and scientific experiments. Often using the fear of radiation rather than the actuality of it to keep the residents from going outside and ending the experiments.
The number of experiment vaults that used humans as test subjects is pretty astonishing
It makes me wonder if the rest of the world is actually untouched and they are just avoiding the nuts in North America that blew themselves up.
Of the 100+ Vaults only 17 were actually meant to keep people safe
The vast majority were tests. There were very very few "control vaults" where there were no tests. I think something like 17 vaults were actually meant to preserve life. All the others are tests/experiments
Yeah, the world of Fallout is all kinds of messed up with the vault experiences
The opening scene bothered me because i was thinking, so many nukes on such a small.area is just overkill. But with your evaluation that the bombs were much smaller, its easier to accept. Thank you for your analysis!
Same
I'd like to point out that fallout takes time to drop to the earth, it's not like the area around the blast zone immediately becomes irradiated. The Ghoul would definitely have time to seek shelter, even if the higher yield bombs were dropped closer and caused more major damage to his surroundings he'd at least be capable of moving.
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@@zasne8667 Yeah I expected an entertaining convo but apparently not
...ignoring the bots: But would it with these kind of smaller bombs? The fallout being tossed up so high it reaches beyond the atmosphere is as far as I know the biggest issue, as without being as much part of climate and winds, it would take so much longer to drop, causing sunlight to be deflected and a prolonged and wider spread eventual fallout. But these bombs and their mushroom clouds seem to not even quite reach airplane heights? Wouldn't the irradiated ashes drop much quicker (more condensed, though)? Not right away, though, so OP's point seems valid, but within hours.
There may not even be a nuclear winter from the depicted bombs... (Or shorter one, because with so many bombs it would still leave the "lower" atmosphere thick with ashes, for a while, causing large scale acid and radiated rains.)
- am agreeing, actually, with OP, but think there's even some more misjudgement in the video, if we're actually talking this much smaller bombs.
Those took forever to report them all. Anyway, the danger wasn't fallout, but the initial detonation. For the larger atomic warheads he was close enough for gamma radiation (along with thermal radiation and the blast wave) to be immediate.
And the detonation is spherical. In fact, most fallout goes down before being sent upwards with such a low altitude detonation. These are airbursts, but not as high up as you would use normally - which fits with the fallout being greater than expected.
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I thought they already made one?
"Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter."
I was looking for this comment when he said nuclear winter 😂
wouldn't matpat do a pixel measurement to get an estimate of how tall the buildings in the show was? like by researching how tall the griffith building was and using that as a basis for the skyscrapers in the show ?
I'm having a serious Mandella effect here...
I REALLY remember MatPat doing a GameTheory episode talking about the yield and devastation of the bombs and that they were likely far smaller than what we're imagining, but because of the Nuclear reactors in most homes, every car, etc, etc, That lead to the nuclear fallout everywhere despite the explosive damage being contained to certain areas.
But I cannot find this episode, so I have no idea why I have this memory...
Pretty sure what you're remembering is one of THE SCIENCE videos that Austin did on the channel after Fallout 4 came out.
@@deyedoriemberborn2817 yeah
Youre thinkin of game theorists
Youre thinking of the videos Austin did on one of their other channels in his "The Science of" series
hope u realize that mushroom clouds in nuke map shows what the mushroom cloud would look like AFTER 10 MINUTES AND NOT RIGHT AFTER ITS DETONATED
After watching the full vid-- he does not.
He also thinks the bombs “fell” (which is how it’s said in the show) without any planes in the sky…
The bombs were detonated from the ground, especially the first one given the plumage. The others were detonated shortly above buildings, or possibly even on the buildings.
He’s also under the impression nukes give off radiation, which is not necessarily true. Some of the areas in universe were intentionally salted by nukes, but not all nukes do that.
For example- your fatman in game does not dose you with rads in a wide area, and this is true to real life.
Also in Fallout lore it was said that they mostly used tactical nukes.
@@CAjokeRCAwe also don’t see the bombs so your point about there not being any planes in the sky is moot. If they were detonated on the ground, how would they be detonated shortly above buildings? How would they even be on the ground? How would an enemy of the United States get nukes on US soil?
@@jacobwong7486 at least 3 bombs in the games were detonated on the roof tops of buildings. .
@@CAjokeRCA what games and where in them?
That transition into the sponsorship was seamless! You’re doing Matpat justice.
Ok I have a theory, what if they weren't uranium or plutonium bombs but they were cobalt bombs or otherwise known as dirty bombs that aren't as destructive as normal nuclear warheads with uranium but are focused to cause as much nuclear radiation as possible, so they might've used these types of bombs.
naming your cat todd howard could give people the impression that you actually hate your cat
Nah it just means the cat has a bad habit of clipping into walls and floors.
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you gotta think about the fact that vault tech were incredibly corrupt so they would not be above playing up the bombs and getting all these people into the vaults as a easy excuse for their experiments and such, people were kept in vaults for years, it wouldnt exactly cause all the damage we see in the games but decay of building would most likely be quite high as well as survivors recycling buildings and the environment to try to survive, just a thought i had.
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1 heck yeah fallout time
2 Todd the cat looked adorable
There is litterally on fallout 1 and 2 maps, whole SQUARE OF KILOMETERS COVERED BY NUCLEAR CRATER.
And, the ghoulification was not only rads, but its combination with FEV released in the air in massive quantity.
It’s unclear if FEV has something to do with Ghouls. It’s mostly because of rads.
@@dasding9006 a pinch of FEV, a fuckton of rads and you will be as glowing as ever friend
@@dasding9006 Ghouls features like tolerance to radiation makes it highly suspicious that FEV is involved.
@@dasding9006super mutants don't attack ghouls because the ghouls are like them. And it's the only way to explain how ghouls exist
What you forgot is that in the episode where they talk about how Cooper is the Vault Boy model they also talk about testing radiation on him (probrably thee thing that turned Thaddeus into a ghoul) so if they did test that on Cooper he would regenerate from the fire and the radiation doesnt affect him. But his daughter would be cooked
Couple issues.
1) The Nuclear Winter issue? People inside Vaults that didn't open for a decade, or more, would most likely be coming out after the climate has started to re-stabilize.
2) The Deserts? Nuclear Winter would have led to food shortages, which would likely led to desperate and unsustainable farming methods that could have realistically depleted the lands ability to grow ANY form of plant life. Combine those with drought and/or high winds and the now arid land could turn into a Dust Bowl. If the cycle continues long enough... viola, man made desert.
3) The Radiation? What if the reduced blast sizes of the bombs was intentionally designed to specifically avoid consuming all the Plutonium/Uranium in the bombs so that they would spread Fallout designed to NOT decay quickly.
almost or all power plants in fallout where nuclear the the radiation would have been chenoblye x1000
I mean, technically everything in the fallout world is powered by nuclear power in some form or another, including their cars, powered exoskeletons, and robots, the amount of radiation around can be attributed also to the fact that there's basically millions of small nuclear power plants EVERYWHERE all going without any maintenance for a LOOOOONG time.
@@redflamingogamingthe fallout universe relies on nuclear fusion not Fission. So no radioactive products.
The whole nuclear winter doesn't make sense anyway and has been debunked years ago. Regarding your third point, smaller yields don't produce more fallout.
@@gavinderulo12The threat of nuclear winter is a very real danger from nuclear war. What are you saying as been debunked?
I think they used smaller bombs because of the resource wars. The main source of fuel was uranium and nuclear power and even those were running out of resources. So instead of bigger bombs they had to use the resources for power plants and cars
I agree. I also think sending a bunch of smaller nukes would be able to overwhelm an air defense and create enough chaos to slip in the more destructive ones
No, sorry but you are wrong! :) You use smaller but much MORE weapons because:
#1 More = less chance of enemy interceptors taking them all out, and glitches can't stop all of them either
#2 Does more damage, same principle as why the military uses "cluster bombs", as huge nukes are a waste as most of the energy ends up going upwards into space and after you blast something flat any more energy is a waste!
For example, when liberty prime tosses nukes, they can destroy a large building at most.
That and if they wanted to maximize destruction on that scale with technology equal to the 1950s/60s and the chances of a nuke not going off and uranium being a rare supply using many small nukes sounds like a good idea
@@silverbladeTEyou are right but the bombs in this show are comically small. Like 200 ton yield is a small tactical nuke not a strategic one.
The fact the bombs fall in 2077 and it STILL looks like we’re in the 1950’s is wild.
thats because in fallout lore the world is culturally stuck in the 50s because they never managed to invent the transistor that in todays world power our microchips
in the fallout world everything is still using vacuum tubes
@IronPhysik well not everything. I. The games prior to 4 we had modern guns, modern military vehicles of the 90s, modern nuclear nukes of the 70s, etc
@@robertogurrola7465What do you think "nuke" is short for?
Well fashion does rotate from time to time. A lot of old trends tend to come back and go away so it could just be that in 2077 they brought back the retro 50s fashion.
The part about the bombs radiation levels being nearly gone after a week might be true, but in the fallout world nearly everything is nuclear powered (think of all the cars, and nuclear waste you see in the world), so all the radiation could be from everything that was destroyed on the ground from the bombs, making it unsafe because of some sort of miniature nuclear meltdown of each and every nuclear powered object.
EDIT: Actually honestly maybe the bombs only had to be that size, it could be cost efficient cause of all the nuclear powered devices that would spew out radiation when destroyed on the ground.
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The bombs could have also been designed in a way that only partially converts the Plutonium/Uranium into energy and the rest into a powder to ensure the Fallout would remain radioactive for centuries.
@@GaurdianPrimeThe only radioactive part of nuclear warheads is the uranium/plutonium. The fallout is tiny bits of these elements that failed to atomize. Dirty bombs are more inefficient and convert less of the mass of radioactive atoms to energy, resulting in more particles to spread radiation.
Having nuclear warheads explode further up(aka having them airburst) also helps spread radiation more effectively.
@@IndigoSierra That's true, but you seem to have missed my point.
I was pointing out a potential reason the Fallout's radiation hadn't decayed like it would normally have from a standard nuke.
@@GaurdianPrime ah my bad I misread your comment. There actually exist such warheads btw, they're called cobalt jacketed bombs.
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The bombs in fallout are more similar to neutron bombs in engineering , so the thermal blast wouldn't be nearly as bad. The show obviously took some liberties but canonically they wouldn't have the calculated effects
Yeah, I figure 'more radiation than expected' is on top of being intentionally designed to cause extra fallout.
They're more like Cobalt jacketed dirty bombs
Would the depicted bombs even cause an actual nuclear winter, since their clouds don't seem to reach higher altitudes /atmosphere levels?
Temporary effect notwithstanding, nor their spread, due to the amount of bombs (ashes, acid rain, the implied "more radiation than expected" due to whatever radioactive materials used within the bombs), but a relatively "quick" fallout nonetheless?
I remember reading a while back that Fallout's nukes are different then our modern day ones. And how a lot of it is based on beliefs at the time. Back in a period before they knew about things like cancer and such, an era where rads gives you super powers not a death sentience. Its all intentionally part of the retro-futurisitc design of the series that its the apocalypitc version of the future the 50's and 60's envision.
@@CassidyShadewingIn our timeline there were survivors of high dosage radiation that lived to be 90+, healthier after in fact, because the radiation was just the right dosage and killed off unhealthy bacteria and such. serendipity
"Watching Film Theory Without Matpat Almost Makes You Wish For a Nuclear Winter"
Fr 😢
Yea...absolutely NOT the same deal....
Not gonna lie, I thought the Theory channels would die without MatPat. Turns out I was right.....
@@NightSide139you weren’t tho
Fr i miss matpat
Vault tec wanted time for residents to enter their test chambers, controlling the launch of low yield bombs works to meet that goal.
It's almost like some of the bombs, the first ones to hit, weren't meant to cause the massive destruction. Like... maybe, just maybe, they were there to spark things off and then let the massive retaliation bombs do the major destruction. If they weren't proper military weaponry, that would explain why they were so small, a more limited budget would mean less nuclear material to put into them. So, really, it could be both. The first bombs weren't enough to destroy everything, but the world was then destroyed by larger bombs later.
That’s actually a great theory
So a theory that Vault Tec started the war?
So, bait to Start a nuclear war? Using this logic, I would Not be surprised if Vault Tec started the attack in the first place
larger bombs were used by alliens
Also do keep in mind, that prewar America was heavy using atomic on all sorts of applications and aspects to day to day life. Which could be a catalyst for the fallout would...
And the infrastructure itself was incredibly robust. They couldn't afford planned obsolescence.
You missed one important point. All information you based it on was from Vault-Tec, the company capitalizing on the end of the world. If they are the ones bombing to get people into their vaults, the explosions must be big enough to scare people into vaults, but small enough so that people make it into the vaults.
When inside the vaults, dwellers could be fed all types of lies about number of bombs, amount of rads or about its half-life. The reasoning is to keep people in vaults as test subjects for experiments and a type of not so natural “natural selection” to rebuild the country.
Vault-Tec has an enormous amount of power and with people in their vaults, they can play gods.
One thing I love about multiple hosts is the unexpected banter in the middle of videos
I became a bit worried when you did not mention the nuclear winter, but it's nice to see you covered everything. Good work!
Yeah
I keep asking this, but to my understanding nuclear winter is what happens when the ashes is pushed into the upper stratosphere, where - outside of climate and winds - it just sort of hangs, dropping much, much slower, dimming the light while it's up there. So as soon it was pointed out how small the bombs are, and their clouds also not seeming as high reaching... Would that even happen?
The amount of bombs and resulting fires would surely thicken the lower atmosphere with ash and sut, but those particles should drop relatively quickly. (Still devastating, though, in its own right.)
You should totally do a theory on how video game adaptations like Fallout, the Sonic movies, the Super Mario movie and even the Fnaf movie have done so well and are succeeding yet others like Halo are still struggling with adapting to other mediums like movies and shows
That’s an awesome idea
That's good
I don’t know how much of that can be “scienced”. A lot of art is subjective and there are soooo many different variables. The process, fan base, network, year of release, budget, so many different things are hard to compare.
@@acgeewhiz Could talk about other things than science in this situation. Things like Sonic, Fallout, and FNAF are directed and produced by fans and the company that owns the video game. But things like Halo aren't produced and directed by fans and don't get the company involved.
@@RobocopStealerOfFridges I see what you’re saying, but you’re still comparing very different things. Sonic and FNAF are each essentially an hour and a half long movies. But one has a budget five times the other one.
Halo and Fallout are both TV shows with like seven hours per season, but one has a production company that spent twice as much per episode. Also, 343 actually was involved with producing the Halo show.
Sonic was pre-Covid19, Halo was split by it, while FNAF and Fallout were filmed after the depths of the pandemic. All of them adapted or changed a pre-existing timeline so you can’t even point to that.
And while we are just looking at those four, to get a real grasp and develop a theory that holds up, you would need to also analyze 50+ more theatrical releases and dozens of TV shows, spanning live action and animated, the 1980’s to present, etc.
You can’t just say “The fans made this one and that’s why it worked, and the fans didn’t make this one and that’s why it flopped.” And how would you even “prove” who are fans or not? What if the director is a fan but isn’t given free rein by the studio? What if they’re not a fan, but the screenwriter was? Where do you draw the line?
The thumbs up in fallout lore is actually referring to you being at a safe distance if your outstretched thumb covers the entirety of the nuclear mushroom cloud
Pretty sure the creators said that wasn't true
The creator came up with the idea, but it is not actually true.
The One thing you forgot to mention was the effects of the FEV Virus. That mixed with the High levels of radiation are the main reason we have the fallout world.
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@@MislabledLabelyeah I don't get it either. Like it takes at least some effort but I doubt a single person would ever visit this udtp channel or whatever after reading one of these bot comments....
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Honestly, Game Theory doesn't *_even do much_* outside of horror game lore and gratuitous jumpscares anymore -- let alone the actual series shown -- so you're absolutely correct in brushing Tom off.
i really appreciate your work and think you were the perfect choice for the new host of film theory i love how you bring a new groove to the channel and its really refreshing and exited to see what else is instore
honestly lee is so talented if you agree show lee some love and like the video
I would like to say that he filled a very hard to fill position. I love that he doesn't try to be extra for an internet personality.
@@shlokshah5379 its nice to know not everyone is a clout chasing content creator all of lee's topics are so fascinating and original
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I have to note, those very much look like ground bursts, which cause IMMENSELY more actual fallout than an airburst... the mushroom cloud then sucks up all the debris and earth into the sky and disperses much more irradiated material. This is a great deep dive, and thanks!
15:48 that “honestly, yeah” with that cadence is almost as theorist as it gets, I mean the amount of times matpat delivered that same line with almost the same delivery is crazy
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0:21 I love that reference from The Ink Spots, " I don't want to set the world on fire.. I just want to set a flame in your heart.."
was not expecting a "Davey, how you doin" blimp strat clip in a film theory!
epic placement!
We've all spent more time modding the freaking Fallout games than actually playing them. That's the true objective of playing Fallout.
I love the banter between all the channels and the new hosts
That ad read transition was outrageous
Dont know if it was mentioned yet, but the fallout lore does actually mention severe winters caused by the great war, particularly the winter of 2078 mentioned in the fallout wiki on fandom, it also mentions other harsh winters after that. Just never shown in the games themselves yet. Great theory btw!
Love how he's trying to fill Matpat's shoes. You're doing good, dude!
I wonder if one lore explanation could be, the bombs had the uranium for the higher yields that the book suggest but they didn't react as expected so there was way more uranium left over from all the small nukes, which would cause higher radiation more like a reactor meltdown?
Man I’m still not used to no matpat, I clicked fully prepared for his voice
Same bro
I did not expect the Straght outta Compton reference
"You can get mad when I steal Minecraft or something."
Suddenly, out of nowhere, the Minecraft movie was announced.
Aaaaand, oh look, Film Theory. Guess that didn't take long!
*TLDR: Basically the bombs are much smaller than expected, still in line with the lore. you can survive the Fallout Amazon explosion. radiation levels 99% low around 48 hours not hundreds of years to be safe.*
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But he's not right....
forgot to say that right after, the atmosphere would block the sun from shining which would stop crop growth and cause mass starvation
@@patcheye125 No it wouldn't lol, you'd need to detonate hundreds of thousands of nukes. Enough to turn a small country into a crater for that to happen
People are forgetting that most of the nukes dropped in the fallout games were probably cluster munitions since it was a cluster nuke it would probably show a light yield explosion similar to what the games and tv show had displayed. If it wasnt known the warhead used was a cluster munition
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yes just finished the series and this is what i needed
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Honestly, it makes things so much more chilling to see that the creative license here was to *scale down* the destructive power of nuclear detonations.
I worked at Obsidian as a tester on the DLCs for Fallout: New Vegas. Happy love of the series! Alleluia!
I think it’s also to take into account that some of the bombs being dropped were Chinese in origin. So the Vault Dweller’s survival guide could be talking about the American nukes, and the Chinese nukes could be made of a different material that made a smaller explosion but spreads more fallout particles.
Thank you for not leaving it at just the first half. But also including the "so what would be plausible given what we see" and finally rounding out the episode with the "forgotten effects and consequences "
Ok so I never post a comment but I love fallout and I can explain the low yield nukes seen all over the place in fallout.
We have an idea that vault-TEC dropped the bombs to trigger the Great War and secure their vault experiments. We also know then that vaul-TEC had nukes in their arsenal.
If you are vault-TEC would it not make sense to drop extremely low yield nukes in all the areas that were surrounding your vaults? Knowing that this would certainly be enough to trigger the larger nukes to evaporate everything else and leaving the areas they targeted much more habitable and thus conducive to resettlement by them?
Loved the video let me know if this theory makes sense to anyone else!!!
The big difference I always considered was that society in Fallout relied heavily upon individual nuclear use. Everything was nuclear, so it was tiny nuclear meltdowns all over the world
2:30 The channel siblings are fighting again.
I've been waiting 3 weeks for this theory
Me too. I watched the series and was wondering how long we would have to wait. I'm not disappointed 😂
5:47 “straight outta Compton “ well played
I remember someone said the bombs were not meant for airburst but to hit as close to the ground as possible to get more Fallout.
They were designed to explode and create as much radiation as possible, making the ground zero radiate longer.
Scorched Earth was the word for it. You don't want the enemy country to be able to rebuild fast.
Airburst creates more fallout. The radiation is tiny bits of uranium/plutonium that failed to atomize. If the warhead detonates close to the ground, more of these particles get buried in the dirt, causing very high radiation in a small area. In an airburst, more of these particles are carried up into the atmosphere by the mushroom cloud, and cause massive, widespread fallout.
@@IndigoSierradoesn't airburst cause the radiation to dissapear more quickly?
@@juliandacosta6841 it disperses much further, affecting a larger area. Ground burst mostly stays heavily concentrated in the blast crater which is quite small. You would need tens of millions of warheads to create the level of fallout in fallout if you used ground burst.
-19:35 *”I don’t want too set the world on fire”*
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I just adore the 4 hosts squabbling over literally nothing
The only piece of writing that bugged me more than the nukes was the bugged pip-boy... "Oh I've totally noticed that my Pip-boy is transmitting data to an unknown place, now don't mind me while I announce to everyone that I'm bringing a bugged pip-boy into potentially the most important, exclusive and secretive meeting in the history of man."
Been waiting on a Fallout film theory for a while now. Thanks for covering it Lee!
me too😃
Kyle Hill covered this two weeks ago with basically the same result.
With this idea, in fallout 4 when your being lowered into the fault you would be cooked before the vault closed 12:31
15:42 this is probably because fallout one and two weren’t made by Bethesda only 3,4,76 and the series so we’d probably have to dig into info from those games to see how strong the bombs were in the same “company cannon”
Team theorist forever we will never forget you Mathew Patrick you are a inspiration for many little theorists around the world we will miss you Mathew and Steph
It’s all the mini reactors in houses and cars and the huge nuclear reactors also melting down as a result of a massive conflict.
Honestly, the new hosts are so much better to me than I thought. They fit in perfectly.
What’s with the bots commenting
@UttpofficerwinterscsBro chill
5:48 thanks for the NWA refference
Crazy mf named Vault Boy
Can confirm, my dad let me read some of the contigency plans about what if the bombs dropped (non classified work stuff back in the 80's). Basically that 3 weeks was the estimated time for it to be safe raidiation wise.
20:00 Walking the mohave makes you wish for a nuclear winter
You should make a video finding out how strong captain barnacles is in the show octonauts it’s really cool🐻❄️
Please help this gain attention
It’s kinda crazy how a lot of the comments are still talking about matpat, just shows how much of an impact he made on this channel and on the internet
not trynna be mean but I mean he literally ran it for years obviously people are still gonna talk abt him he barely left. its like the main character dying after a couple seasons people are gonna talk abt them forever
One thing stated in several parts of the game was that radiation was already epidemic levels before the bombs dropped due to the resource wars. Radios, televisions and cars ran off nuclear power. The waste disposal was atrocious so pockets of contamination existed prewar. Who knows how it was spread but big explosions would work rather well.
I HAVE BEEN WAITIN FOR THIS ONEEEE
I still expect Mat's voice 😔
😢😞 Same - But we still love our boy tho lol
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Don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happend
I feel your pain but I love that the channel is still up and giving me hot new theories.
8:27 that sponsor transition is wild 💀💀💀
And it ends at 10:20
@@TheStrandedSavantthanks :)
Hey, I hate to break it to you but the vault-tec rep survived the nukes. He just turned to a ghoul.
We collecting bottle caps with this one 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
Have you ever seen blue bottle caps with a star on them? They're super rare, so I made a necklace out of them for good luck.
Just wanted to say, Lee, You're doing an amazing job! Keep up the excellent work. 👏
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Since they say it releases more radiation than expected and the mushroom cloud is also smaller than expected, could it me that the nukes didn't convert all the radioactive substances into energy there for smaller explosion and more radioactivity?