ALL New Lore in the Fallout TV Series! | Fallout Lore
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- Опубліковано 2 тра 2024
- In todays video we are running through all of the new lore introduced in the Fallout TV series. Naturally this video is spoiler-ridden so if you haven’t had a chance to see it just yet, I would definitely give it a watch first.
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00:00 Introduction
00:47 The Setting
02:26 The Enclave
03:26 Cold Fusion
05:59 Ghouls
08:19 The Brotherhood of Steel
10:58 NCR
15:36 Thumbs Up
16:11 The New Vaults
17:37 Bud's Buds
19:40 The Great War
22:25 Season 2 Teasers
24:09 Final Thoughts
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Now we know why Vault-Tec had instructions for 76 to secure the missile silos.
Shit, I hadn't even considered 76 in any of this. Good catch.
But maybe 76 is the programmed simulation in which the vault tec staff are "living" and waiting.🤯
When you put it that way, wow I really feel bad for the 76 vault dwellers. They have no idea man.
And the fact these silos in Appalachia are completely automated no workforce needed to build more nukes and missiles.
Having 5 thousand hours on 76, i caught this the second I heard it.
Matt Berry as Codsworth was the absolute best casting decisions.
you mean Jackey Daytona?
You mean Stephen Toast?
You mean Vaulton Joe?
You mean Todd Rivers, aka Dr. Lucien Sanchez of Darkplace hospital?
CRAVENSWOOOOOOOOOOOOORTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like how the series basically gives all dogmeats a backstory. One could surmize they are all escaped dogs from the enclave breeding program. One way or another they get out and help strangers.
It was amusing to me that Dogmeat kept showing up to most characters as his own unique traveler through this screwed up world. I could get behind a spinoff
Theres many things that were inspired by "a boy and his dog" in fallout 1-2, and in the tv series
This isn't the case for fallout 1 and 2. In fallout 1 the enclave haven't left the oil rig yet and in fallout 2 he's basically a wild Wasteland (before that perk existed) thing. It might be true for fallout 3 and 4 though.
Lets face it, dogs existing in the fallout wastelands is proof nit quite everything went to hell.
@mappingshaman5280 after watching the show I feel like the enclave is a lot bigger and spread out than originally thought. They probably have vaults and bases like theee in non nuke zones all over the US
, Canada and Mexico.
Cold fusion is mentioned in Fallout 4 in the Institute. A terminal in Advanced Systems. Doctor Li ironically calls the technology a pipe dream, science fiction rubbishing the idea. One of her co scientists proposes reasearching the tech after finding pre war theory papers on it. Li shuts him down.
Mate!!! Great catch I had forgotten about that entirely. How interesting is that, the Institute as brilliant as it is still thinks Cold Fusion is a pipedream and yet Vault-Tec have been using it for so long.
@@UraniumFever76 or it could have been a lazy slip up of lore writing.
@@jefferyshaw3990 I feel like it fits the institute perfectly actually. They were too obsessed with control, secrecy, and SYNTHS. The player character can literally ask them "why doesn't the institute make something that helps everyone" and the response was essentially (paraphrasing) "we don't want to, we want to make synths." So it goes in line with what the institute wants to do and focus on, they want to make synths not think about something like cold fusion that would actually be beneficial.
@@Zivin Agreed the show also makes a point of saying that Moldaver's research on Cold Fusion was all bought up by Vault-Tec. It figures then they would keep a tight leash on it, and none of it would exist publicly for the outside world to build off.
@@jefferyshaw3990 Nah buddy it's Institute hubris. The Institute believes if they can't do it then its impossible. And did you watch the show? When Vault tec bought the research they made it a proprietary they sealed it away hid it from the world. No one else in the US knows about it so the Institute in the future would never know of it.
Consider that the "plague" that forced Vault 33 to lock down was simply a convenient excuse to lock the inhabitants in their quarters so that Hank and Betty could go after Hank's wife and then blow up Shady Sands without the inhabitants of Vault 33 noticing Hank leaving and re-entering the vault. They then told the inhabitants of 33 that Hank's wife died from the plague. Any other inhabitants of Vault 33 that died from the "plague" could have been the ones that helped Hank's wife escape the vault.
Just saying since it would be pretty convenient that a "plague" hit the vault at the exact time that would make it convenient for Hank to come and go from the vault without being noticed.
Yeah I think this is definitely tied to what went down in shady sands. Perhaps this happened over a couple of years and they will reveal more in season 2?
a couple of things to help tied the date down is lucy. We know how old she is during her marriage interview and we know she was in shady sand prior to them being nuke. she was also young enough to not have clear memory of the event. so am guessing she must had been between the age of 3 to 6 roughly. Maximus is another clue as we see him as a young boy after it was drop being rescue. those clue tell me it was fairly recent but not too recent maybe slightly more then 10 years prior but not beyond 15 i would think.
@@Marverynthe most agreed upon date at the moment, taking into account Maximus approximate age at the time (6 y.o), and the fact that Todd Howard confirmed in an interview that the nuking of Shady Sands happens *after* the events of New Vegas (2281), it would put the date at around 2283/2284.
I just wanna know how hank supposedly lost all the weight. Travelling to shady sands maybe?
@@vrokyojuul5677 That's probably likely. Iirc the quarantine caused people to starve due to lack of food production so Hank was probably out there for a while which gave him the perfect excuse to why he lost weight.
in the IGN interview, Todd confirmed NV is still cannon, the NCR is not entirely dead, and the nuke on Shady Sands fell just after the events of NV
The ghoul says "a bounty came thru all six agencies" & there were six CEOs at that table. I wonder just how much "management" is left or if thats even what he meant.
Interesting!!! Nice catch
I'd bet a lot of bottlecaps his wife is in one of the pods in vault 31 "one of the best ones" that aligns with "time as a weapon".
@@adamkares7549 Norm sees the screen with all of the residents of 31 and Cooper's wife is not among them.
Norm wouldnt know coopers wife, he doesnt even know cooper
You would tho and barbs name wasn't on the list
I don't think he is turning into a ghoul but that was an FEV mixture.
I totally agree. I'm wondering if he will turn into a centaur or something like Harold.
@@canis2020Harold was never a centaur
@12LoLproductions he never said Harold was a centaur but something different then a ghoul
@@canis2020 can't be a centaur, those are specifically multiple creatures all being combined through FEV.
I felt the same way, if it was whatever Hancock took he’d be high af lol
Why is it that ppl just immediately assumed that the entirety of NCR is gone because of one city being lost ? I’m pretty sure that NCR have a few dozen region and cities that they still owns and that the NCR is still there, hell it’s very much possible that the destruction of the capital city is a major morale blow to the ncr that the higher ups decided to keep ot under wraps and this decision does not sit well with moldaver that she decided to just go awol and start recruiting anyone including raiders in order to enact revenge, a sentiment I’m pretty sure the shady sands survivors agreed and supports her while some people just doesn’t want to get involved with her like the lead farmers
Presumably from the survivors living in Vault 4 and the 'NCR HQ' written in the Observatory. For the former why not just wander over to the Hub? now they moved Shady Sands to the Boneyard thats pretty close now.
They were still there until last episode^^... its written "NCR headquarters" on an entrance in the last base, supposing it's the remain of at least a large part of the NCR army (and they are not a lot, like few hundreds). There's also some civilians and also some crops in this base and that would make sense Moldaver put installations for cold fusion in the most secure base of NCR. The inhabitants from Vault 4 are partly Shady Sands refugees and Moldaver worshippers, she is NCR leader but maybe she became so after those events. I have the feeling those followers didn't heard of Moldaver since the shady sands bombings and make her a godlike/savior figure. There is a ncr flag in the classroom but looks like an antic for history class. So i not even sure Vault 4 is aligned with NCR. There's also a lot of women soldiers and poorly equipped troops in the NCR last battle, we don't see much of the famous NCR uniforms, some rangers armors are worn by scavengers, like to foreshadowing rangers are a thing from the past. The NCR is still there but have been severely crippled it seems. Most probably (considereing the end of last episode) NCR don't have New Vegas region and brotherhood conquered filly. With the brotherhood putting hand on cold fusion it will be very hard time for the remains of the NCR. But i agree with you even if a bomb greatly destroyed Shady Sands NCR seems to have face other problems to become so weak. Maybe a long war with the brotherhood? as we see an armored guy finding Maximus.
The Billboard for Shady Sands also says "The First Capital of the NCR". Should imply that it's been replaced way before it fell.
@@ohma0320 But for what i understood they still speak of it as their capital in New Vegas.
Because despite being a series that was based upon satire, Fallout fans are really bad at media literacy
A lot of the power armor changes can be attributed to the fact that the suits were real props for the most part, adding a jetpack to them would probably make them too immobile or cumbersome and also ridiculously heavy to wear.
Very valid point.
Silly point. CG exists. Even if the suits were real props, which I doubt they were 100% real for every scene.... a jetpack could have been added.
No, this was a decision done for savings.
@@James_Bee Almost everything in the show was stated to be practical. The suits were entirely real, the only times they used CG was for intense movement shots such as when they were running around in the suits. But it was clear they were practical with their plastic look and the fact most scenes involved the actors walking slowly or standing still while in the suits. They saved money by choosing to not rely on CG in the show, and will probably save money in the next season because of this decision.
@@James_Beeyeah but Pratical effects are far superior than CGI
Silly James, its CGI not CG
As someone with practically no prior knowledge of the games before watching the series, I was able to follow along with the presented lore just fine. I think the show strikes a good balance of appealing to fans without coming off as alienating to the uninitiated. Details left vague didn't leave me scratching my head but instead made me more interested to learn the worldbuilding of this universe...hence the current Fallout lore videos rabbit hole I find myself in rn
17:50 the year Hank said Rose died could be when she left the vault, not when she actually died, as Hank said she stop being Lucy's mother, so to him she was already dead, and it makes sense for them to say she died when she left
yeah and whos saying he didnt just lie lol. There was likely a plague in the vault that did happen and hes just using that as a simple way to cover it up.
meaning a few years later is when the bomb went off....after fnv....
@@redactedandredactedaccesor7290 ...exactly. Everyone who's hating the show for 'making NV non-canon' should think about it. Also atomic mushrom is clearly after 'fall of Shady Sands'. The 'fall' doesn’t necessarily mean 'destruction' by an atomic bomb, and even in NV, it's mentioned that the capital is in poor condition.
Either you are enclave or you are not similarly either you are vault Tec or you are not it seems
@@Matux1022277 fall of shady sands which is impossible if new Vegas is canon. Characters in 2281 reference shady sands as okay and no nukes
In my eyes, Vault-Tec didn't drop the bombs because the Ghoul guy would've get a warning before it (due to his wife) and House would have the Platinum Chip in time before they were dropped. In other words, they wanted to do it but China did it first.
Addendum: Megaton's bomb does not have Vault-tec's logo on it, it's a similar shape with a different design and the only reason people think they're the same is because of the scuffed textures of FO3.
The Ghoul also got divorced, yes, but what about his daughter? No way his ex-wife would've left her own daughter to die if she knew when the bombs dropped.
And please, do not confuse being morally bankrupt with being mentally disabled. And evil person is not, necessarely, a stupid person.
💯!!!
I don't think Vault Tec dropped the bombs, they had a ton of important projects not being able to finish due to the start of the war
I think they used the bomb they had on Shady Sands
I'm certain they didn't and it will be explained. By including Mr house in their secret meeting they canonized his "government sources" that warned him about the war coming as vault tech and the enclave. But if house was in on vault techs plan to start the war he would have gotten the platinum Chip on time instead of a day late if they were the ones to drop the bomb. Also I don't think her dad nuked shady sands.....it was the courier siding with Ulysses in lonesome road.
I'm honestly bothered that they're answering who did it at all. Since it was one of those mysteries that made it fun to theorize about. That said, I agree with you. If House knew when it was going to happen for certain (as opposed to making a very accurate guess but getting it wrong) there's no way the chip would've arrived late. He would've made sure it was delivered with plenty of time to make sure this didn't happen.
The show doesn't outright say they did either, only that they were prepared to. Almost everything from the games suggests the bombs fell earlier than expected as even Vault-Tec caught unaware and not ready.
todd confirmed with the recent interview with IGN that the fall of shady sands meant a steady decline and the eventual nuclear detonation happened just after the events of new vegas
I'm basically certain it was indeed a plot hole that they overlooked, but it's such a small detail, and the 'patch' explanation for it works well enough, so it's totally forgivable. Gotta love how he specifically says "it's cutting it close" too. lol. Luckily though, this time at least, "It just works".
wilzig knew about lucy because he was already meeting with the ncr who at that point already had plans to get hank, so by logic her telling him she was saving her father from vault 33 was a clear hint to who she might be to the doctor
That’s a good point. Definitely plausible.
That’s exactly what I figured when I rewatched episode 2.
he just did /tgm
he knew about Lucy because Enclave has access to Vault records
Well that and he’s apart of the enclave
Shadowy Guy in the boardroom meeting better be Ron Perlman.
Damm right
Who? Is ron?
@@antekskotniczny8736Ron never changes
@@antekskotniczny8736the guy who does the fallout intro
It's him, guys! It's John A. Fallout!
I'm calling it now: the Tunnelers are gonna be why New Vegas fell.
Agreed
They never figured out how to get those road lights working did they
Would be a big twist to the end credits where it looked like the ncr and house fought
I'm pretty easy going as far as the lore issues have gone, even as a Isometric & New Vegas fanboy, but I don't know how I'll cope if Mr. Bear & Bull himself ends up being the prophetic force behind it all
There's no real lore issues. Shady Sands could easily be destroyed in 2277 and rebuilt by 2282. That would also go along with how depleted the NCR really was during New Vegas. And as far as ghouls needing a Chem to keep from going feral, that could still be true in the games. Ghouls would never reveal that to smoothskins because it would make them an even bigger target as the threat of them turning would be more dire.
The enclave had a big grip on my attention. In fallout 3, they tried domesticating death claws with headsets, leading to mixed results. They didn’t mess around with east coast super mutants all that much, but seeing super mutants and seeing training done on dogs has me believing their gonna not only learning how to control super mutants, but perhaps modifying FEV to better work in their favor like they did with Frank Horrigan. If the Curling variant of the virus didn’t work, maybe controlling and gearing up mutants to fill their ranks would do much better. Just imagine the brotherhood of steel are consolidating their new power in cold fusion, and on the horizon, they see vertibirds, thinking it’s another of their forces, only to be fired upon. After doing a considerable amount of damage, the enclave disembark the birds, and to the horror of the BOD, they not only see soldiers in X-01 power armor, but charging super mutants, armored head to toe.
It’s funny I assumed the lab was owned by the NCR but the doctor was Enclave who was forced to work for them
or X-02 power armor, that was the Enclaves advancement in power armor.
@@sirmount2636 did you not see the black uniforms and laser rifles? I wish we did learn more tho. Seems strange they'd have such a huge advanced lab out there like that while the brotherhood is aware of their operations. They must still be a considerable force if Liberty Prime hasnt been able to wipe them out
@@whatisreddin7367 black uniforms doesn’t mean much. They looked like the NCR MP’s we see in New Vegas
But that would require changing the status quo, which Fallout fans are apparently allergic to. But seeing the Enclave and Master’s plans essentially combined into one fascistic organisation (with dogos!) could be brilliant!
In all likelihood it wasn't actually Vault-Tec that started the great war. If that was the case, then why would Barb, an extremely high level Vault-Tec executive considering she was at that meeting, let her daughter be out at a birthday party on the day the Great War happened? Not to mention other details throughout the games such as the unfinished vaults and the fact the Enclave were caught off guard. Considering that also, the ambiguity of who started the great war has long been kept a series mystery, and it also just makes for better writing, it's more than likely Vault Tec didn't actually start the Great War and were caught off guard, possibly because the US did much better than expected and backed China to far into a corner.
I think something like fallout would've been hard to make because no matter what you do there will always be people angry with what it shown because fans are so deeply dedicated to the lore any changes good or bad would make some unhappy but I actually think the overall outcome turned out far better than I was expecting
You are correct that not everyone can be happy over anything that changes the established lore of a product that people are both emotionally and intellectually invested in especially when there are so many blatant discrepancies (plot holes) in this particular story telling that made it seemed rushed through that left to many unanswered questions. Now this does not mean that the series was not entertaining and there is hope that season 2 will answer some of these questions, such as; How did Hank not know that vault 32 was attacked from the outside with his 'DEAD' ex-wife apparently leading the charge? Especially since vault 31 monitors both vaults 32 and 33.
I'm confused about Mr. House - is it ever just a straight up outright villain? Yeah, he's in this meeting, but he also saved countless lives by stopping most of the nukes from hitting Vegas because he loved that place so much. I always just pictured him as someone who wanted to be in the know so that he could be prepared for anything.
Well talking to him in New Vegas no he doesnt come off like this really. He tells you he has no interest in being a Dictator and is mostly focussed on rebuilding Vegas to eventually one day build a colony ship to find a new planet to settle. He definitely didn't seem like someone who would enjoy Vault experiments just for the sake of it. Perhaps him simply being in the know was his goal in this meeting?
It could be House's influence in that meeting is what allowed for the creation of Vault 21 and the "gambling" experiment.
House most definitely is not a villain
@@knavenformed9436he exterminated the Kings for no reason other than he doesn’t like them. He’s not exactly a good guy
I think house literally only shot down the nukes at Vegas because that was yknow, his home, it’s like if you had something that could shoot down nukes ontop of your house during a nuclear war, yeah, duh, I’m saving my house if I can, house could of given said defense technology to others to try and save others, but he didn’t
Don't forget that the Shady Sands billboard they show states its as the FIRST NCR capital. Implying that the capital had moved at some point. So only Shady Sands is confirmed destroyed but the final state of the full NCR is still open.
that shaded figure is definitely the Enclave representative, since they are the ones who works close with those Companies powerhouses especially Vault-Tec
I thought the drug the other Squire took was the Healing Factor serum. "You heal 300% faster outside combat."
Interesting idea. Would be cool to see serums feature.
after he gives Thaddus the serum, he says he doesnt have to worry about radiation anymore, hinting at some Ghoul or FEV influence
@@coinisinorbitkinda strange how a dude who F’s chicken’s is just like bro? You want the cleanest FEV syrum for like 10 bucks.
@@davepumphernickel9568 maybe they'll reveal in the second season that he's an ex-enclave or ex-insitute or ex-whatever scientist
@@freeguy3894 plot twist, its arcade gannon 15 years after new vegas. Medical Experience + sticks his dick inside things it shouldnt be in. Too big to be a coincedence!
@14:00 It is said by Muldaver that Lucy's mother lived in Shady Sands for a time. Perhaps the quarantine happened in 2277 to excuse her disappearance/leaving the vault, but not her death and the bombing. She lived on the surface for those 4 years. When she was found by Hank and Betty, it was 2281 and - kablam. I think the chalkboard thing was some oversight, but the rest all lines up.
Honestly even if it's a slight plothole error, it's plenty workable enough to be fixed and overlooked. I did see a short clip of Tod Howard clarifying that the bombing took place slightly AFTER the events of New Vegas, so regardless of the chalkboard being an error or not, it seems they are going with this explanation, which works way better.
@@FadeRadio1 Tim Caine released a video of his review of the Fallout show like 2 days ago and he said, "What if the NPC in New Vegas was an unreliable narrator. What if the teacher in Vault 4 just didn't have her timeline perfect?"
I agree with Tim. What if sometime between 2161 and 2281 (FO1 visit to Shady Sands vs supposed bombing) Shady Sands had to relocate closer to LA?
He said there has always been a history of unreliable narrators in Fallout. I usually associate that style more with the Elder Scrolls property, but it could just be that our unreliable narrators are never countered by more reliable ones at any point in Fallout. Whereas with Elder Scrolls there are usually multiple sources of info for many past events.
Idk why people are assuming that Shady Sands moved locations in the lore. I feel like it’s pretty clear that Lucy had to travel pretty far to get there. Cooper literally slave drives her for like a week straight through the desert before they arrive there, and then she has to travel all the way back to the Hollywood hills near the end in order to get to Moldaver
The show is a whole year period. People are missing MONTHS of time between these locations, which was distinctly stated.
They are trying to find any reason hate the show and the internet is full of tards
@@mikeishome69 the way the show cuts does seem like the events happen pretty quick
@@durttheelder4035 Remember they walked from Fresno to Bakersfield. In the wasteland. Regardless of how they cut it time is implied
@@mikeishome69 I have no idea how far those are I don't live in cali
those could be right next to each other for all I know
Im thinking Thaddeus took FEV and will be a super mutant. There was a lot of teasing for FEV in the show. I think the ghoul thing is a misdirect. I wonder if there's more to the chicken loving snake oil salesman than meets the eye. Also, the nuking of Shady Sands has to happen after 2281 based on character's ages. The chalkboard shows it taking place after the political decline of the city.
No i dont think he will be a super mutie to be honest, it seems he took the same chem hancock took in fallout 4 possibly? so hes definitely gonna be a ghoul
@@selenemccuntyface4061that could be it but why is he healing at a quick rate . His foot was shattered I don’t see how any thing would of fixed that ( probably a nod at how we can break limbs and heal them fast ) but his neck shot healed quickly.
Ghouls don’t have regen powers they only heal from radiation in some states. Why didn’t The Ghouls finger grow back if they wanna go with ghouls having regen powers.
He’s either FEV or a new type of ghoul
It’s likely 2282.
@@selenemccuntyface4061 I honestly thought it was Jet fuel based on how it looks like the same substance the ghoul takes in a inhaler
@@selenemccuntyface4061 no that doesn't make sense, Hancock explicitly says that was a one of a kind drug and that it made him trip like crazy, Thaddeus doesn't seem even the slightest bit high after taking whatever he took.
Barb is an Enclave member. I didn't even think that was vaguely hidden after that part in the boardroom. I just immediately assumed those were the shadowy people in the meeting.
Like, if you know anything at all about the Enclave it's pretty clear who is pulling her strings in that scene.
I think the guys in the Vault-Tec shadows is Todd Howard
its Tim Cain giggling up there like a fox
The lore of the gouls hasn't changed, they simply added a new type. The creation process determines which type it will be
The Ghoul seems like of the the few or only one to find a way to live that long without going feral, combo of maybe genetics and the drugs. Strangely, the only source of this drug seems to be harvesting other ghouls like the "supermarket" ?
I hope they clarify. Im hoping this is something that was not previously available to wasteland ghouls that was developed as a medicine to stave off becoming fertal. I know that there was the ghoul researcher in fallout 3 that was trying to figure out how to cure becoming feral. maybe this was the closest they got?
But they never explained how The Ghoul became ghoulified
It's implied he's caught up in the bomb blast at the kid's birthday party but never explicitly stated.
The drugs to prevent becoming feral could be a condition of his unique method of ghoulification.
That it's implied in the last episode his daughter is still alive leads me to think he wasn't turned ghoul by the bomb drop we saw him riding away from
Thank You! Finally! Those ghuls are MADE, that`s why they`re different. It`s not a natural mutation from radiation, they`re made artificially by well probably some kind of FEV strain
@@bigc181Yup! Season 2 will answer many questions I'm sure of
I think the guy in the shadows is Thomas Eckhart, who becames president of the enclave after the bombs drop
Interesting idea, shape of his head does look a bit similar. I saw someone else suggest Braun which was a good idea too.
My man, at the time Eckhart is a Secretary of Agriculture with stained reputation(his father defected to China, while blaming american imperialism). He's not even near to this position. And even after the bombs fell, he did not become president of THE Enclave, but the appalachian detachment.
At which part you taking about? When they are in bud's meeting?
Yeah, they look at the lady before she speaks to get them back on track. He's up above them in shadows
Thomas Eckhart became president of the Appalachian Enclave only, from what i remember from Fallout 76 he had no contact with the Head of the Enclave who took refuge on an oil rig on the West Coast. As the last president of the USA in 2077 took refuge on that same oil rig, this was considered the ''real government of the country'' leading to President Dick Richardson being the Enclave head in Fallout 2. The ZAX of Raven Rock forged the role of President John Henry Eden after the destruction of the head of the Enclave from the oil rig.
I'm leaning more towards the Independent Vegas ending as canon, seeing that under House you need to destroy the Brotherhood.
you only destroy the local chapter who are already isolated anyway so wider narrative wise they're entirely inconsequential.
Only the local chapter. The one we see in the show is from the East Coast. So the one from Fallout 4.
If house is dead, why would Hank even go to NV?
@@svntiprod7437Doesn't expect some fuckin wasteland mailman was able to take down a dude with a literal military of robots, who's hiding in a building guarded by said robots, on a floor inaccessible via the normal elevator, requiring a special elevator that's locked behind a secret door only openable via terminal, which is also guarded by a robot.
Personally i think House ending is canon
I think it's criminal that nobody is talking about Abraxo Cleaner. Lucy finds a bottle of it, in LIQUID FORM.
Abraxo Cleaner has never been portrayed as a liquid and for good reason, bottles would inevitably dry out and become useless.
Abraxo Cleaner has always been portrayed as a chemical powder that could be mixed with liquids to form a scouring grit for cleaning.
Good spot might save that for an Easter egg video if end up doing one.
I think you might have answered your own question with your comment. The reason we probably don't see the liquid version is because most of them probably dried out. Good catch though
We still have filled Nuka-Cola bottles everywhere after 200 years tho
Omg who actually cares? They got the cleaning powder wrong, the skies are falling!
@@pastlife960 Oh come on, they're just making a light remark about a neat little detail they noticed. I do understand your frustration with getting annoyingly butthurt about simple plot errors or contradictions (because holy hell are some people uppity about the dumbest little things when realistically MOST of the things in Fallout wouldn't have actually survived 200+ years without crumbling to dust), but this one just seems like a cheeky remark pointing out something most of us didn't notice. Of all the wacky science in Fallout, liquid detergent being able to survive the ages is far from unrealistic, and that's what they seem to be pointing out.
In a recent interview with Todd Howard, he said that the Fall of Shady Sands was referencing something else, and that the bomb was set off immediately after the events of New Vegas.
"I'm Morty and I'm a vegan and that's Cannon".
Yeah... While characters in NV talk about politicians in Shady.
Todd Howard said that when Shady Sands was nuked and "fall of NCR" are different dates, hence the arrow.
NCR is not dead. NCR had a population of over 700,000. 30+ thousand people is 5% of the faction
Agreed that’s why I made sure to mention that stat
Next question what city would make sense to be the new captial of the NCR?
@@Nakeethus_Hunter I’m assuming it’s a Lonesome Road scenario with the bomb dropping in 2281 or 82. Or like many have suggested they’ve messed up and their dates wrong.
@@Nodachi07 probably the Boneyard
@@LewisB3217 i was thinking vault city or new reno
I'm very new but perhaps Ghouls need food if they use a bunch of energy, like staying still they're fine, but if you're let's say a gunslinging bounty hunter, you need to fuel. Idk
That would be my guess as well. My theory is that they can kind of put themselves into hibernation, and we can kind of see this in fallout 4 with feral ghouls trapped in buildings lying on the ground, and appearing dead until you disturb them.
Taking the Hover Dam was supposed to satisfy the NCR's power needs, and the House ending has House saying he'll sell electricity to the NCR (and that he needs the NCR as customers for the Strip). So, with power being the Holy Grail on the show, assuming the New Vegas endings are still relevant, only the Legion or Yes Man endings could have occurred.
I think it is more likely, however, that there will be even more retconing for Season 2 and they will tell their own New Vegas story.
I'd say that's a very erroneous assumption. The ncr government, at least in the boneyard, doesn't really exist anymore so who is Mr house supposed to sell to?
Unless the NCR ends up in conflict with House and New Vegas after FNV, which would also explain why the city looks a little worse for wear compared to the last time we saw it.
The ending of the NV game doesn't necessarily dictate if the current state of New Vegas is successful or not. That is, Vegas could have rebelled against House, the Canon ending could just be that nobody really definitively 'won', or hell maybe the Tunnelers did in fact wipe out Vegas like Ulysses said would happen.
If shady sands can be fuckin nuked, then i'd say they aren't treating player-character successes as permanent fixes to the wasteland.
ON THAT NOTE THOUGH, because of the timing of this series taking place only like 20-ish years after New Vegas took place, and seeing that we are returning to New Vegas, we likely WILL actually see very definitive answers as to the courier canonical influence on the world. They'd be fools to actually have the courier show up in the show on-screen (as the player characters should ALWAYS be left vague as far as their gender/appearance/etc), but we very well COULD see some of our other favorite characters from the game. 100% no doubt at least ONE of the followers from the game will show up at some point.
Todd howard recently confirmed that shady sands was indeed nuked after the events of fallout new vegas which seemed obvious to me but whatever.
Yeah NV players don’t have great media literacy yet whine there game is the best and don’t let anyone else have fun
Mr Handy's should now all drop fusion cores based off E6 (around 10 mins in) !!!
Don’t they also explode in the newer games?
it was always weird to me how sentry bots drop multiple fusion cores in FO4 while mr handy's and gutsy's don't drop a single one
i think because of game balance they don't.
in game fusion cores are very valuable and there are plenty of mr handy and gutsy around the world so if you could collect all their fusion core and sell theme you could become too rich too early in game.
@@AmirrezaGhafari-qy2iqlmao tell that to the purified water farmers
@@angelokush6659 well settlement building & minutemen quest line added last to the game i heard they even considered to cut it's content they didn't had time to work on it properly that's why both settlement building and minutemen quests are super buggy.
Just saying there’s a scene where there’s a nuka cola girl or something like that probably in the first few episodes that shows her holding an alien blaster that caught my attention because that was what I was specifically looking for
i live a few blocks from where they shot the enclave scenes in Brooklyn, it was fun to see in the show what they ended up using.
Youre assuming that Thaddeus is turning into a ghoul. i believe its more likely he got dosed with FEV and is become a supermutant which WOULD give him regenerative abilities..
One aspect of the new lore drops in the TV series that interests me is that there are many things we are told but not shown, which in many other stories is a symptom of bad storytelling BUT in this case could be seen as deliberate. After all, there are plenty of things we are shown rather than just told about, especially during the flashbacks. But then you look at things we are only told. Norma says that Vault-Tec could drop the bombs themselves but we have yet to actually see them do it. Moldaver says Hank nuked Shady Sands but, although he only somewhat denies her claims, we have yet to actually see him do it. We are told by the chalkboard that Shady Sands fell in 2277 but, again, we have yet to actually see the time and circumstances of its fall, only its result. What I'm getting at is that I think it's too soon to firmly establish the new state of the lore, as many of these events are likely to be shown/expanded upon in Season 2 and hopefully clear up any potential continuity errors and maybe provide some new twists along the way.
I'm certain that's on purpose, because we know maximus said when the bombs dropped, not bomb. And it's unlikely just nuking the NCR capital would end the NCR as a organization but a dozen would. And we know in lonesome road you have the option to nuke the NCR, and the time of lonesome road matches up when shady sands was nuked. We also know MR house was personally involved with the plan to drop the bomb, but that he was still caught by suprise by the war starting causing the platinum chip to not be delivered. So why would he be caught by suprise if VT was the one that started it? Because they fully intended to and someone beat them to it
Agreed, I think your comment is on of the best ways to put it. People are jumping the gun a little, we just need to have patience for season 2 which hopefully will expand on a ton of stuff
Covering a 220 or so year history in just 8 episodes that is fair to the few featured characters is harsh, and a second season is questionable starting off, so I can forgive some story compression for that to make S1 a slammer even its the only one. Id think more seasons are a lock now however, things can breathe a bit.
I definitely do not agree with the aspect of creating "canon endings" in a games series, where it's all about player choice.
But the viewer can just assume, that's how it happened in that particular universe.
Which is probably the most popular picked endings or one that is easiest for them to make a TV series out of.
@@PerfectAlibi1 but we already have cannon endings of 1 2 and 3
Any one hoping to hear a "Howdy partner" in next season?
Anyone actually cares about Emil's fanfic? (Who cares? It feels just like the same level of "quality").
I'm hoping to see Fisto.
I absolutely loved the show. I wanna see more of the Enclave (yes I’m biased because they’re my favorite faction).
Here’s my theory: Bud Askins may have been the brains (pun intended) behind the Tri-Vaults, but remember, that’s the JUNIOR executive program. What do you think happened to the SENIOR executives? Also: in the scene with all the big shots from all the companies, we see a bunch of shadowy figures sitting above the meeting (with one being focused on in particular). Are these the senior executives? Are they Enclave representatives? Who knows?
I also have a feeling that the Enclave and Vault-Tec had more dealings with each other than we previously thought. Given how much Wilzig knew about Vault 33, the fact that the cold fusion “battery” (that’s what I’m calling it) had Vault-Tec’s name on it, and Vault-Tec’s access to nukes (likely from Vault 76, as another comment pointed out), I think we could learn about a very lucrative dealing between both parties. Would be fascinating to see!
Mate... nice catch. That was just the seniors... damn this could be built on a big way. I think at this point its probably Enclave/Vault-tec synonymous with each other in those meetings
@@UraniumFever76 perhaps the shadowy figure could be a government representative? Or perhaps the head of Vault-Tec themselves?
Lately I've been watching lots of Fallout reviews and lore videos. This is the best one imo and you didn't miss out stuff like the others did. Great work, you get a thumbs up (pun indeed 👍) and a new subscriber.
I watched the series with my parents and my mother loved it! Even though she has never played the games she’s so hyped for next season😊
The NCR is not destroyed, Todd Howard said as much in an interview. Shady Sands is just destroyed, and it happened after New Vegas.
I don't think Shady Sands was nuked in 2277. It just says it fell in that year. Each of those arrows are pointing to separate events in a continuum, including that one. Looks like it was nuked after 2277 to me. Maybe it was a Fall of Rome situation and was already on the decline until it officially dissolved.
Yeah it's definitely possible mate, I wouldn't bet on anything just yet myself. I hope they confirm it was later.
I can see the NCR beginning to decline after they won the first battle of Hoover Dam. Many NCR soldiers in fnv complain about how overextended they are, and Chief Hanlon says that the NCR was not careful in managing their freshwater reservoirs. If the NCR government and influence was driven out of the New Vegas region, then that would have been crippling for them. That OSI researcher at Camp McCarran said as much, that they needed to succeed in the New Vegas region in order to hold off future food shortages and mass starvation. One of the troopers at Camp Golf said that they only joined the military because otherwise their family wouldn't have had enough food to feed everyone, showing there was starvation occurring in the NCR.
@@Enterprise2700 the ncr was overextended because they had to face Caesar’s legion and maintain 5 states, after they beat Caesar (who loses not matter what unless the courier saves him), they likely were able to return to normal
@@UraniumFever76 Nolan wrote this and will be reading the discourse online. He will clear it up for the autists that cannot wait for S2.
@@LewisB3217NCR is overextended because they were aiming for Hoover Dam, not because fighting Caesar's legion.
Also, without courier support, yea NCR could win, but most likely the battle would came to stalemate, and NCR (in a condition like the guy you replied already stated) can't afford stalemate anymore, so since most likely House's ending is chosen for s2, that means NCR is lose the battle, thus starvation happened.
dang impressive how fast u put this vid together with the show out for only a few days, i was like dang thats alot of visuals, nice work brotha
Good stuff, it's been so long since I played the games this was helpful refreshing my memory. There were so many storylines, side quests and places to explore it's hard to keep it straight when you're 6 to 25 years removed from the last playthrough.
I've been waiting patiently for this video from you 👌
Thanks boss! Appreciate you checking it out!
I honestly think this series is very FNV friendly. They know how popular it and the original two games are and put a lot of references to them in the show.
Shady sands being a fixture, showing the NCR is still active in the area, having mr house (i believe its him) as rob-co's representative, having New Vegas itself as a teaser for season 2
They know what they're doing.
But they apparently didn't know that Shady Sands is located about 200 miles north of Los Angeles. Or that LA is home to the Gun Runners and the Followers of the Apocalypse. Nor did they account for the fact that the NCR is a developed nation-state with 700,000 citizens as of 2241, probably close to a million by the time of New Vegas, and has pretty much the entirety of the Fallout 1 and 2 maps under its flag. Nor did they stop to consider why, if Vault 4 and vaults 31-33 were all within spitting distance of the Master's Cathedral, and with easily identifiable entrances leading directly to the surface, the Master never found them.
I haven't played any of the fallout games, and I enjoyed the show immensely. Now I'm enjoying diving into the lore of the games through UA-cam channels like this one.
Casting decisions on the whole this series is absolutely great.
The Shadowy figure during the Vault Tec meeting is one of two people: Dr. Braun or a high ranking member of the Enclave, possibly the president or a high ranking secretary.
Braun, being head of the Societal Preservation Program, could be sitting in on this meeting as a way to generate experiment ideas, as all of the ideas proposed would come to fruition.
On the other hand, a high ranking member of the Enclave might be sitting in for the same reason, but also wondering how the experiments proposed could help further their production of the spaceship mentioned in Van Buren and theorized about in the fanbase
The T60 in Maximus' flashback isn't necessarily a continuity error since around that time the east and west coast brotherhoods had re-established contact since we know the west coast elders were happy with Maxson becoming elder
I would imagine the illuminated figure in the Vault-Tec meeting would have to be someone with a large influence in the starting of the enclave. It would make sense that Vault-Tec would secure that partnership early if they knew that a large group of scientists would also be remaining/returning to the surface much sooner to continue research and work.
I thought it was weird how tanky the ghouls were and the foot reforming was, but i also remembered about radiation healing hp so i just went with that too lol
I’m pretty sure the meeting between all the corporate executives and the shady people in the seats overlooking the meeting was in essence the enclave. I say this again pointing to how both vault tec’s and the enclaves ultimate goals (cleansing and laying claim to the post war US) seem to be aligned.
I think the silhouette she looks up to IS ACTUALLY this is a pretty big revelation, The Banker from Deal or No Deal
Lmao
Thanks for this video!!
I have never played the fallout games before, but knew of them and some of the story.
I loved the series a lot and i never found myself confused about the lore or tech as the show did a good job(imo) of showing it not just info dumping the context.
I have been on a huge binge fixated on the fallout lore and studying all the different vaults/experiments. It is pretty cool to have the reverse effect than others, finding info from the games and be like "ohh!!! That was in the show! Coool! That makes even more sense now.
Just bought fallout 4 and VR for PC and looking forward to sinking a lot of time into those games. (P.s. they are on a big sale right!)
You got my sub! Looking forward to more videos from your channel.((P.s.s. you have an amazing narrator voice too))
Been waiting for your take on this for awhile. Great job. Your knowledge of lore is mind bogging. Truly incredible, thanks. My wife is vaguely familiar with FO and loves the show. I can’t wait for more of your take on the TV show and the history of FO. BTW we are 69 and 68 respectively and I only hope I live long enough to see season 2, not to mention FO 5 which I view as 50/50. Thanks so much for what you do it really makes my day.
P.S. please talk a bit slower😅
Todd howard apparently gave one rule and it's to not confirm any ending for FO4 and FO: NV, the TV show I think hinted the BOS victory in FO4 if the contingency is coming from the Commonwealth as mention in the show.
It doesn't solidly confirm any single ending, but it does rule out a few. Since the Brotherhood survived, it can't be the institute or the Railroad ending. That leaves only the Brotherhood or Minute Men ending. I think logically they'll treat the Minute Men ending as the true canon (as they were clearly the main 'neutral' and completely player-lead faction after all) going forward, but they won't outright say so.
New Vegas is more vague, as there's no real 'default' feeling ending there. It's much more shades of grey than fallout 4 in that regard. Even with Todd stating that rule, they clearly already hinted towards the FO4 ending already, and considering how wildly successful and highly rated as this show has been, he may also be more willing than he initially was to give definitive answers to some degree. Obviously they'll need to still keep the most specific details vague (like the gender/appearance of the courier and whatnot), but since they are clearly hinting the second season taking place in New Vegas I simply can't see a way to avoid giving us an answer as to which ending is canon.
Ultimately, I think they're going to go with making the House ending canon, as they got the perfect actor to play house and showed him enough in the first season to suggest that they may want to have him show up again in the second, which couldn't really happen with any of the other endings than the House ending. They were also very careful to specifically have House be literally the ONLY member of the Vault-Tec meeting to not suggest an idea for a Vault experiment, which I feel was a subtle way to hint that wasn't actually there with the intent to buy a vault, but to gather information for his own plans was putting in place, which wouldn't really lead anywhere if he's dead for the second season.
Besides, you know what they say: The House always wins.
@@FadeRadio1being practical: you don’t get an actor like that if you don’t plan on keeping him around.
@@CMTechnica Right? That's what i'm saying. It'd be too much of a missed opportunity otherwise.
I wish the pre-war scenes had dates shown. The meeting between Vault-Tec and the other companies, in particular, shows both RepConn and RobCo which should date it to before RobCo buys RepConn in the early 2070s but then the appearances of Janey means that all the pre-war scenes are supposed to happen over only a year or less before the Great War.
It gives the impression of Vault-Tec rushing the vaults rather than the 20+ year timeline that was established in the games
Well, we know Repconn is purchased by RobCo but we don't know to what degree they merged, right? It's not unreasonable to believe that both companies continued existing, even if RobCo had a majority stake in Repconn.
As for Janey, I do agree that it does throw a pretty big wrench in the works, as it tightens the timeline a lot. What took place over 20 years according to the games, suddenly turned into one, maybe 2 years tops. Although it's also not unreasonable to think that Vault Tec only decided to "sublet" the vaults to other corporations way after they were built and allowed them to tamper with the vaults after construction. I mean, in the show we already see a defined map with the locations of all 122 vaults
I think the mastermind in the vault-tec meeting room was the leader of the shadow government that grows into the Enclave.
I was watching the final episode a couple of days ago. Ngl, seeing Mr. House and a teaser for New Vegas in season 2, it was a rollercoaster of wild emotions that I couldn't even begin to process. I love Fallout so much, and getting to see New Vegas in live action feels like a blessing!
there's a poster in Vault 4's lab that looks suspiciously like a Tunneler -- it's only seen for a brief second, but it's there.
not a continuity error, people just do not understand how a flow chart works
Out of all these vids coming out on these topics. This is the one you want to watch.
Never played any of the games and barely know any lore, yet I still really enjoyed the series and can’t wait for more! Well done to everyone involved with bringing Fallout to life!
i hope they will clear up the things that are unclear (like what means "fall of Shady Sands"?) and give us a date for when exactly the nuke fell. Also the NCR might still be around further north?
Honestly me too mate. Just make it absolutely clear, no idea why they felt the need to be vague. Its caused so much discourse, not all of it good. And yeah I think so too. NCR was too big.
My guess is we will have multiple factions claiming to be the current NCR.
@@jasondolph2785 100%. Think this is exactly where they will go with it - even in New Vegas tonnes of people complain about the politicians. If they all die in Shady Sands, could definitely see the States break up into their own Republics or factions.
@@UraniumFever76 perhaps to create artificial excitement for S2?
The regeneration is not new. There is a perk called Ghoulish that gives you a large increase to regeneration in the games.
I guess the first person to have discovered the VaultTec logo on the bomb in Megaton and made the theory that VaultTec was behind the first bombs dropped must be really happy. Doesn't completely rule out alien mind control however or even influence from supernatural entities.
That dark figure is none other than Saburo Arasaka😂😂😂. It gotta be. Seems like he'd be down with something like this
The 'Fall of Shady Sands' in 2277 likely refers to its political and economic decline and this would have been when the Hub became the new capital of the NCR. I bet its likely the first battle of Hoover Dam played a role here. The bombing of Shady Sands likely occured after 2281 and the best point of evidence is Maximus's age. Maximus appears to be 21 years old in 2296 (the year the show is set). How do we know this? Well there's two bits of evidence:
1) The Brotherhood base in episode one is essentially a Military School where recruits are learning/training to become Squires. We see recruits as young as 12 but the ones who become Squires in the show appear to be between 18 to 21 years old. Maximus and the other recruits who become Squires, such as Dane and Thaddius, are essentially college-aged kids who have finished their education (i.e training) and are approved by the Clerics/Elders ready to aid Knights in their missions.
2) The flashbacks of Maximus in the show when he survived the bombing of Shady Sands. Here, Maximus looks to be about 7 years old.
With these two points, its my belief that Maximus is 21 years old in 2296, making him born in 2275. This means the bombing of Shady Sands is likely 2282, one year after the events of FNV.
The big issue with all of this is that the TV show is made to be enjoyed and, more importantly, coherent to people who know nothing about Fallout or its lore.
And any regular viewer would watch the show and see and hear the date 2277 several times in relation to Shady Sands. It would also be super confusing to newcomers if the show was stating that Shady Sands was actually in decline well before it got bombed. Especially since Hank called it competition worth bombing, and in the flashback it shows the city in a pretty advanced state.
As it stands the show gives no indication that the year 2277 should be wrong or a red herring at all. The most likely answer is that it is just a mistake. That being said, it does give just enough wiggle room to correct it in the future. So hopefully in the future season they clarify some points to make the time frame closer to what you suggested.
@@coleabrams4534yes but also on the chalk board you can see a smudged chalk like pointing to below the nuke so it can totally be a red herring as they don't leave stuff like that on a whim.
@@YOGI-kb9tg There is a smudge for sure. But if you look behind the cloud, it looks like another smudged cloud. If anything, to me it looks like a correction to move the nuclear cloud closer to the date 2277. To make it even clearer to audiences that the dates are connected.
@@coleabrams4534 if that truly is the case the line should be gone not smudged
Im so happy this show did what I expected it to do, add some of that pre-war lore, and how it was done was expertly done. Also I have a theory about what Norm might do. Its him Vs a brain on a roomba. I think he might take his chances and maybe so some threatening of Bud's Buds. Cuz honestly all you have do is flip Bud over or something or even use him as a weapon. He might have managed a lot but I dont think he planned for that.
Good catch on the super mutant. Totally missed it and haven't seen it on any other reviews yet
This show successfully reinvigorated people’s love and want for fallout. Also I think filly is a Landfill. Landfilly
I was legitimately shocked by how faithful the show is to the lore of the games it’s based on. I don’t know if I’m just blinded by how rare that is, but I have zero complaints about the show (related to respecting the source material, anyway). And where things diverge a bit, they don’t go too far, and they diverge in a way that makes sense for a show, or actually improve on the base lore. For example, i love the changes to the ghouls. In the games they were never consistent about them anyway. I also love that being a ghoul makes you much different than a human, unlike in the games where they’re either ugly humans or weak zombies.
My only complain is the light from the pipboy. It was supposed to be that the screen would shine but now they have a specific lightbulb for the flashlight?
@@salvadortorres7449Yeah..? Why's that an issue lol
@@salvadortorres7449 Tbh the pipboy light sucked and one of my first mods was to change to a flashlight type light in the pipboy lol. The BoS power armor not having flashlights or headlights was kind of silly.
The power armor retcons are annoying, also some vaults become redundant or stupid but that has to do more with Bethesda being bad writers
2:38 I just realized the scenes shot at the enclave were at the Brooklyn Army Terminal
Was once beautiful, still kinda is in a way but now pretty decrepit, those overhangs are for falling debris, it’s also a hard hat area
Elvis left for the war from there, big signs everywhere, plus god knows how many troops and material, train tracks in the middle of it, massive building
Very cool building
This TV show had another big canon confirmation for the Fallout series. Horses! While horses had been mentioned and talked about in the games and lore, this is the first time we've actually SEEN one in Fallout media.
The mysterious man during the Vault Tec meeting could be The President maybe
I know it's a bit of a take to have, but let's consider the events of fallout New Vegas more so as soft canon, the location exists, and had been teased a lot even in 76, but until we get some confirming events it should be a slow cautious look, because even the end titles confirms some more things, but is more to tease. And a wasteland story is something more to be molded into what peeks interest.
But the show did have something interesting in vault 4, Lake Lurks and what could either be trogs or tunnelers on the walls of the cryo chambers walls. This as a Easter egg is one thing, but given what the vault was doing then it might be safe to assume that those are experiments left to be let loose across the wastes. Maybe even transported to other locations.
But I will say this, screaming out For the Republic can mean more than just a clone trooper fighting some droids now
I’m going to watch those bits back that sounds very interesting! So honestly whether it’s an error or not regarding the date, nothing in New Vegas has been retconned. If it is a mistake it’s no doubt an accidental one and I’m sure we will see find out what went down business as usual in a season 2.
I agree with the soft cannon approach as well. Love the game but there is also many different endings in NV that it’s impossible to narrow down one. Especially when that outro of the Strip being destroyed could be anything. Not to mention that we don’t even know if that’s before or after the events we will see in season 2.
I look forward to seeing how it plays out in season 2 though. Hopefully we get another season true to the nature of the games!
lets consider anything by Bethesda, NOT CANON. Easy fix then.
@@MLPDethDealr32Agreed. I live in hope that Bethesda can one day lose the rights so their badly written version can be dismissed as 'soft' or 'non-canon'.
vault tech starting the war finally explains the nuke in megaton having vault tech logos too
This makes sense because my question was how did Mr House know the day the nukes would drop, now we know it was Halloween time so probably explains why he was off by a few hours as most likely someone forgot to update their time as daylight saving 😬 I kinda love that theory that all their plans were only as good as those that carried it out.
I guess I’m crazy and misremembering but I could’ve swore there was conversation between Lucy and Maximus where Lucy was talking about the bombs dropping 200+ years ago and Maximus was like wym the bombs dropped 19 years ago.
I'm watching this back now... I will report back
I think that's just a misunderstanding. Maximus grew up in the wasteland generations after the bombs.
For him, the bombs exploding happened when he was just a kid and it was Shady Sands, not the whole world.
Shady sands got nuked when Maximus was a kid, 19 years ago, Lucy thought the nukes 200 years ago (in the Great War)
@@UraniumFever76 you find out yet? i bet that's the canon date shady sands gets destroyed ( I'm 99% sure they never said it was nuked. perhaps geck sabotage or something else?)
according to google the show is set in 2296 - 19 = 2277
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Whoever wins the war writes the history books. History changes depending on whoever wrote it
This saying never made any sense, because whether who wins a war or not, doesn’t matter, military men aren’t writing history books, historians are, who will tell the truth
Truth is the first casualty of war.
Historians write the history books, not victors
@@LewisB3217 victors choose which historians to write books
victors can burn book and kill historians
A foolish notion, defeated countries write their own history all the time just look at the south and the “War of Northern Aggression.”
Watching the show with my family at dinner, then playing New vegas while my friends play fallout 1 and 76 and discuss lore in a call is certainly a memory I’ll look on fondly for a while
I think that one good way to fix the Shady Sands date error is to suggest in some dialogue that the survivors of the nuke identify the Fall of the City with the arrival of Rose, since it's because of her that Hank went out looking for her (which could possibly have taken some years) and ultimately nuked Shady. They can still fix the inconsistencies, they just have to play their cards right in the upcoming season(s).
how come the brotherhood don’t use t-51 power armor? What happened to the west chapter? didn’t play fallout 2 so i might be missing something
Great question. Which isn't really answered. It's implied that most of the Knights are from the East Coast which lines up, but in the flash back scene in Shady Sands we also see T-60. Despite the fact we've never seen that suit on the West Coast over three games....
They arrive in the Prydwen so it's pretty clear they were from the East Coast chapter.
@@rambofan334 I'm more specifically talking about the flashback scene of maximus being rescued by a knight wearing t-60
@@ashdonsimmons01continuity error. The power armor is all practical, physical suits. Making T45 or 51 would require making another suit.
Unfortunately a case of “should have used CGI”
I wonder what happened to all the radscorpions and mirelurks lol I mean all that walking around in the desert and no jumpscare radscorpions 😂😂😂
At least one radscorpion encounter would have been fun!
Hopefully see some Deathclaws & cazadores too next season!
Mirelurks have never been shown on the west coast.
One thing I have noticed about the show is nobody ever says the fall of the NCR, if I am not mistaken. Everyone only ever mentions the fall of Shady Sands. I think it's possible the NCR has more presence in Norcal and the areas north of California.
Very well done video, and apparently there was not retcon since IGN interviewed todd howard and the director. so we will see what happened in season 2 hopefully
Something else to note is the changes with this Brotherhood chapter. I saw some people pointing out that they changed some of the words used with it feeling more deliberate. This chapter also feels much more barbaric with how often they say they will be executed. Same with the change of the banner to gold and red for the chapter. A very distinct color pallet in the series. Their names are also all roman names unlike the usual naming pattern of the Brotherhood. Another thing to note, there also isn't a single woman in the chapter to the point they're all sexually repressed. It leads one to believe this chapter is actually ran by a legion survivor/spy. With the Elder in the show even saying he wants to betray the greater Brotherhood.
It feels like an outcast or remnant of the west coast chapter after a prolonged war with the ncr which was happening during the events of new Vegas. Did fo4 ever state the west coast chapter fell?
@@celticwardragon3849If Mr. House won then yes it did fall. There is no getting around taking out the Brotherhood in a Mr. House play through. Yet even then, the west coast in the bunker had women in it. Veronica being a good one to point to in the case of New Vegas. They also had a somewhat family dynamic with how she describes them. So them suddenly going barbaric and just ousting all the women feels intentional. At least to me.
@dinoboy005 There are women in this chapter of the brotherhood, look when the Prydwen arrives or when Maximus goes to meet the Elder in the final episode. Only they are in the background with other members of the brotherhood. ua-cam.com/video/v6mtJgIuG6c/v-deo.html 00:38
@@dinoboy005 @dinoboy005 There are women in this chapter of the brotherhood, look when the Prydwen arrives or when Maximus goes to meet the Elder in the final episode. Only they are in the background with other members of the brotherhood. ua-cam.com/video/v6mtJgIuG6c/v-deo.html 00:38
The entire way they were depicted really is what lead me to believe that not one person who was an actual Fallout fan had any say. This just feels like another failed live action series. Retconning and changing a whole of bunch of stuff so they can make everything fit in their narrative.
I'm pretty sure the brotherhood having clerics is not new?? I could be wrong but I thought there's a cleric in the new Vegas BOS quest line
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There's an arrow after "The Fall of Shady Sands" pretty clearly pointing out the bomb fell afterward. An arrow means another, separate event. I think "The Fall" is in reference to it no longer being the capital of the NCR. Since that Vault is NCR/Shady Sands refugees, it would make sense that timeline is revolving around NCR POV. Which would be in line with NV, with there being a line or so about how Shady ain't doing so hot. I would wager Shady went sky high mid 2280's. The show takes place in 2296. The seemingly physical relocation of Shady? Yeaaaah, that's unexplainable...
Its not up for debate, people are just dumb and need things spelled out for them. Maximus is in his early 20's in the show; when he exits the fridge he looks about 8 years old, subtract 12 from the year of Fallout TV Series, and the bombing takes place 3 years after New Vegas. "The Fall" is referring to the fall of society, like "the fall of Rome", this is a phrase that generally applies to a 5-10 year period, which, puts it right in line with the bomb going off 3 years after New Vegas. Fuck, how hard is it to pay attention?
Shhh, it’s all the minmaxing gamers do. All they can do is focus on numbers
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