Yep... sad how the real JFK had been in poor health since his youth and as he got older his aches and pains only got worse. There was even much doubt he would have survived a second presidency had he lived to be reelected.
@@xyPERSON He never should have been president. Old Joe and his team worked to lie and convive the American people into thinking that Jack was this young strong verile man when in fact, he was VERY sick and quite debilitated. To make matters worse, he was high half the time on all those drugs that "Dr. Feelgood" was giving him.
Although Kruschev played the clown a little bit for Stalin he did it because he had to, there wasn't a bit of clown in the guy after Stalin wasn't around. All his anti-American comments have been overblown by American propaganda not surprisingly, and the fact that Khrushchev was able to restrain battle hardened Russian generals from just going to war with the United States proves he was an incredible statesman. Communist Russia had a lot of problems mainly the tendency of popular dissent to end up in a gulag or just disappear, but Americans should ask themselves what happened to Martin Luther King among others and the state of county jail prisoners back when chain gangs were popular... Even today America has more state and federal prisoners in for profit prisons than Russia ever had in the gulag...
@@micnorton9487 One more thing. Kruschev knew he was being played to JFK's politics the entire time. From the start of his campaign JFK claimed Russia had a much larger missile arsenal (which was false) to stoke fear in us. In the middle of the crisis JFK received letters from Kruschev that this will all be over if we just remove our missiles from Turkey. We remember our 13 day missile crisis in this world. The Russians were dealing with a Turkish missile crisis for years, only hidden from the public. Kruschev just decided to reciprocate. He wasn't being a villain. We also at the time believed these missile were all headed for us. Most of them we know now were only ranged for short range defensive purposes, which was what Kruschev was trying to state the entire time. Anyways, JFK agreed to Krushev's terms, but made him keep the Turkish withdrawal secret. He didn't want to appear weak. He was playing politics in the back of his mind the entire time. For this Kruschev eventually got overthrown and lambasted in his country for being weak and caving, and JFK today is a hero.
This was an ok movie not completely historical accurate ken O’Donnell did not have that big a role in the missile crisis if at all he was JFK appointment secretary. RFK was basically Kennedy closes and most trusted adviser.
Well, the REAL JFK wore an Omega. So assuming they went for historical accuracy, we can assume Greenwood wore a vintage Omega or at least a knock off made to look like one.
@@retroguy9494 Well, I know the real rectangular Omega watch that JFK wore and the story behind it (a gift from his friend Grant Stockdale). But I'm asking about the rounded one (brand? model?) that the actor wore in the movie.
@@mauriciolacruz Oh, well, that I don't know. Probably just a standard wristwatch since it was round instead of rectangular like JFK's actual Omega. Then again, it could have been Greenwood's own personal watch. Makes for an interesting bit of trivia, doesn't it?
A good portrayal of the events and people involved with the Cuban Missile Crisis. Only marred by Kevin Costner’s annoying performance complete with fake New England accent.
Kenny Odonnell was a bit player in the missle crisis. He was mostly a political hatchet man. Cosner is an idiot for allowing this role to be overplayed
AND he was a big time alcoholic who was drunk half the time. In fact, that's what killed him and at a fairly young age at that! O'Donnell I mean; not Costner of course!
I can vaugly remember reading an article that the other political advisors son said the same thing that O'Donnell had very little to do with any of this.
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@@alexanderkarayannis6425 Damn, you must be an Oliver Stone student, yeah Bobby Kennedy was corporate through and through but had a little problem with his name going down as the brother of the American Tojo LOL... Although at that point before the American conflict the Japanese Navy and the Army barely talked to each other so Tojo was completely out of the planning, it was all in admiral Yamamoto's capable hands...
It reference how the Japanese knew planning Pearl Harbor, an unquestionable tactical victory that achieved zero strategic goals and drew America in the war... damning the Japanese Empire in the process
Navy also had to wait on start until could get the Destroyer DD 850 Joseph P Kennedy from Pacific Ocean to Cuba. Any wonder why a cynic like me thinks the Kennedy's were a joke.
Well, no one wanted to listen to Patton when he predicted we would be at some kind of war with Russia. Everyone thought he was nuts and a troublemaker. But yet, it always seem to be the attitude towards men who were right about things and weren't afraid to say it.
Bruce Greenwood made an excellent JFK, frail and always in pain
yes the best of all JFKs
Yep... sad how the real JFK had been in poor health since his youth and as he got older his aches and pains only got worse. There was even much doubt he would have survived a second presidency had he lived to be reelected.
I went to see this movie when it opened. I thought the same exact thing.
@@xyPERSON He never should have been president. Old Joe and his team worked to lie and convive the American people into thinking that Jack was this young strong verile man when in fact, he was VERY sick and quite debilitated. To make matters worse, he was high half the time on all those drugs that "Dr. Feelgood" was giving him.
a very underlooked film a great cast here
0:55 now's not the time to be passing notes in class!!
An able administrator who proved his worthiness from War to No - War
The last words of his speech - we all are Mortals.... Jabardast.
Although Kruschev played the clown a little bit for Stalin he did it because he had to, there wasn't a bit of clown in the guy after Stalin wasn't around. All his anti-American comments have been overblown by American propaganda not surprisingly, and the fact that Khrushchev was able to restrain battle hardened Russian generals from just going to war with the United States proves he was an incredible statesman. Communist Russia had a lot of problems mainly the tendency of popular dissent to end up in a gulag or just disappear, but Americans should ask themselves what happened to Martin Luther King among others and the state of county jail prisoners back when chain gangs were popular... Even today America has more state and federal prisoners in for profit prisons than Russia ever had in the gulag...
@@micnorton9487 One more thing. Kruschev knew he was being played to JFK's politics the entire time. From the start of his campaign JFK claimed Russia had a much larger missile arsenal (which was false) to stoke fear in us. In the middle of the crisis JFK received letters from Kruschev that this will all be over if we just remove our missiles from Turkey. We remember our 13 day missile crisis in this world. The Russians were dealing with a Turkish missile crisis for years, only hidden from the public. Kruschev just decided to reciprocate. He wasn't being a villain. We also at the time believed these missile were all headed for us. Most of them we know now were only ranged for short range defensive purposes, which was what Kruschev was trying to state the entire time. Anyways, JFK agreed to Krushev's terms, but made him keep the Turkish withdrawal secret. He didn't want to appear weak. He was playing politics in the back of his mind the entire time. For this Kruschev eventually got overthrown and lambasted in his country for being weak and caving, and JFK today is a hero.
Kevin Costner loves a good JFK role
Great movie!
This was an ok movie not completely historical accurate ken O’Donnell did not have that big a role in the missile crisis if at all he was JFK appointment secretary. RFK was basically Kennedy closes and most trusted adviser.
WAS THIS recorded in a church?? 🙉
What's the watch JFK (Bruce Greenwood) wears in this movie?
Well, the REAL JFK wore an Omega. So assuming they went for historical accuracy, we can assume Greenwood wore a vintage Omega or at least a knock off made to look like one.
@@retroguy9494
Well, I know the real rectangular Omega watch that JFK wore and the story behind it (a gift from his friend Grant Stockdale).
But I'm asking about the rounded one (brand? model?) that the actor wore in the movie.
@@mauriciolacruz Oh, well, that I don't know. Probably just a standard wristwatch since it was round instead of rectangular like JFK's actual Omega. Then again, it could have been Greenwood's own personal watch. Makes for an interesting bit of trivia, doesn't it?
A good portrayal of the events and people involved with the Cuban Missile Crisis. Only marred by Kevin Costner’s annoying performance complete with fake New England accent.
Kenny Odonnell was a bit player in the missle crisis. He was mostly a political hatchet man. Cosner is an idiot for allowing this role to be overplayed
AND he was a big time alcoholic who was drunk half the time. In fact, that's what killed him and at a fairly young age at that! O'Donnell I mean; not Costner of course!
I can vaugly remember reading an article that the other political advisors son said the same thing that O'Donnell had very little to do with any of this.
Good tv
Movie
@Hell Fire3 it was released in theaters first as a feature film.
@Hell Fire3 good point.
Do not get your history from movies
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I like Dylan Baker but he is in no universe Robert McNamara.
What did the note say?
"NOW I KNOW HOW TOJO FELT PLANNING PEARL HARBOR"
@@alexanderkarayannis6425 Damn, you must be an Oliver Stone student, yeah Bobby Kennedy was corporate through and through but had a little problem with his name going down as the brother of the American Tojo LOL... Although at that point before the American conflict the Japanese Navy and the Army barely talked to each other so Tojo was completely out of the planning, it was all in admiral Yamamoto's capable hands...
Eat at Joe's...
It reference how the Japanese knew planning Pearl Harbor, an unquestionable tactical victory that achieved zero strategic goals and drew America in the war... damning the Japanese Empire in the process
Your Fly is Open
Navy also had to wait on start until could get the Destroyer DD 850 Joseph P Kennedy from Pacific Ocean to Cuba. Any wonder why a cynic like me thinks the Kennedy's were a joke.
Nagasaki was the wrong target it should have been Moscow in WWII
Why bomb your allies?
It was not completely obvious that we were going to end in a Cold War in August 1945. Bomb them for what?
Back than the Soviet Union was our ally. It is only in the last 80 years that Americans saw the Russians as rivals to get nuked.
keep dreaming.
Well, no one wanted to listen to Patton when he predicted we would be at some kind of war with Russia. Everyone thought he was nuts and a troublemaker. But yet, it always seem to be the attitude towards men who were right about things and weren't afraid to say it.
Poor copy