Thirteen Days--They Want a War
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- Опубліковано 3 бер 2022
- A great scene from a great movie. True, it overplays the aggressiveness of the chiefs and the conflict between them and JFK, but it's a useful teaching tool for the history and the policy angles.
Note: Grateful to Warner Bros. for permitting me to post this video.
"You tell them those chain of commands end at one place...Me!" I love it! Love this movie
How about, "I am the Commander-in-Chief of the United States, and _I SAY WHEN WE GO TO WAR!"_
@@RobertNielsen1970 I love that quote in the movie too!! Such a great movie!
@@Brian6587 Yes it was!
wrong. He found that out several months later.
@@justinbailey1756 I see what you’re saying and it’s probably true!
I was a kid when this went down for real. Now I totally get why all the adults I knew were freaked out during this time....
And there's no Kennedy at the helm this time.
@@Ozymandias1 no Kennedy and no Kruschev. If there is a god, god help us.
I wouldn’t be born for 7 years, my dad was in the Navy and my mom was 19 years old.
I may have been slightly older than you at the time and was damn scared!
Damn snowflakes
"Those chain of commands ended one place...Me", don't know why that line chills me to the bone!
Not me, cause if somthing went wrong there is no way he would have taken responsibility.
@@Infernal460 And that's what makes a leader: the responsibility of a decisive action, both for winning or losing.
@@IronMan-tk8uc Yeah but what Infernal is saying is Kennedy, like most Presidents, would have found a way to package it so he didn't make a mistake even if he did, and I completely agree.
@@IronMan-tk8uc Agreed
@@Infernal460 actually Kennedy did take public responsibility for foreign policy and military failures while he was office. Bay of Pigs is the principal example; however, he was in office for such a short a time that the Bay of Pigs and the Cuba Missile Crisis were his only two major foreign policy tests.
JFK, despite being a WWII Veteran, did not trust the military industrial complex and the military service chiefs. He was also advised by former Presidents Eisenhower and Truman to be weary of military attempts to subvert civilian political leadership. In the end it appears the advice was well founded, as the world avoided nuclear war in 1962.
One of my all-time favourite movies. Can't count how many times I've watched it.
Me too !! Awesome scripting acting
Me too. Just watching that scene alone has got me so stressed!!
Me too. The tension was completely real!
13 times?
Same, besides the first 5 minutes, there were no slow boring scenes. It was a really fast paced movie that had your attention the whole time.
Steven Culp's portrayal of Bobby Kennedy is amazing.
Indeed. Looks and feels like him.
That dialogue between Greenwood and Costner is fantastic - so well written and the music is perfect.
Except Costner’s character (Kenny O’Donnell) had almost no involvement with EXCOMM in real life.
Yep. Creative liberty here was in full charge!@@KevinBalch-dt8ot
As Poincare said: "War is something too serious to be left in the hands of generals"...
It worked out well in World War II when the politicians stayed out of the way and let the generals do their jobs.
The sole reason for the need of any military in the world is to UN-FUCK what the politicians FUCK UP…
Very underrated movie. Bruce Greenwood, Steven Culp and Dylan Baker were great.
Bruce Greenwood is the best JFK for sure.
This movie pulls me in every time I see even a minute or two of it. Great film!
This movie should have been bigger than it was. I have the DVD and play it all the time.
"Thirteen Days" is perhaps one of the most underrated and least known films of this period. Based upon the amazing book "The Kennedy Tapes" with screen play by David Self and Ernest R. May, wonderfully acted. We see the struggle of men in power bound and schooled to policies and practices that are ineffectual and even dangerous in the brinkmanship of thermonuclear war, no one has ever had to do this before, few of them ( including the Soviets ) knew what were appropriate courses of action, all them were terrified. Kennedy is known for his comment about the writer Barbara W. Tuchman's powerful work "The Guns Of August" and how the ruling powers of Europe were catapulted into WWI with many of them unable to stop it or even understand how it happened, and Kennedy saw all of this happening around him. We see the development of Bobby Kennedy. this even changed him from a political attack dog, narrow in vision and re-active, and it aged him and altered his outlook into the future.
A true story about how the world almost came to an end. What more can anyone want in a movie?
@@cennon Less Kevin Costner. Hey you asked. lol
@@bill2953 that accent will never not be cringe lol
@@farid1406 Hah!
Saw it in the threatres (cinemas) roughly 2, 3 days after it came out & saw it overseas. One awesome kickass movie & audience & one hell of a kickass day/evening for sure. Long story....
2:54 *THIS - THIS IS A SET UP!!!!!* best line in the entire movie
"It's a TRAP!!!"
As a kid I wrote to JFK and got a signed response not from JFK but Kenneth O'Donnell played by Kevin Costner; I keep my letter with movie poster of 13 DAYS I obtained signed by Costner and cast.
Bruce Greenwood was absolutely brilliant in this...
If you think about it, the true antagonists of this film weren't really the Soviets (the only three we actually see on screen are helpful or at least as troubled at the though of war as anyone) but rather America's own top military leaders, who seemed to be gunning to attack Cuba without any apparent understanding of the consequences.
Even years after the crisis, LeMay considered it a failure, because they were not allowed to invade Cuba, naively thinking they could've driven the communists out of the country without any reprisals from Moscow.
now US is trying to do a similar blockade with Kaliningrad. Lithuania (undoubtedly following orders from DC) blocked Russia from shipping goods to the city by land. if US tries to prevent Russia from sending goods by ship or by air, WW3 is inevitable.
Our history never told us about US/NATO stationing Jupiter missle bases in Turkey but this movie gives the full details why the Soviets were stationing missles in Cuba.
@@bidenwearstrumpscrappypamp1829 the entire crisis and movie probably would enver have happened if we just moved our missiles out of turkey, in exchange for them moving theirs out of cuba
LeMay was a Psychopath who should NEVER Have been in charge of Anything stronger than a Potato Gun!!
The real antagonists of the Cuban Missile Crisis were the politicians and military brass of each country involved who decided to play chess with the world. If it weren't for men like JFK,Bobby Kennedy or Vasili Arkhipov etc. We'd be long dead from the military's kind of diplomacy
One of my favorite scenes from any movie on this subject. Because the analysis, from O'Donnell, was absolutely accurate. And the viewer was able to ascertain that before the President took him into privacy.
LeMay was notorious for pushing both sides to the brink of war with recon flights. It’s little talked about today but the US lost over 200 airmen flying missions over Soviet territory during the Cold War. Frequently their mission was to get notticed, so that the Radar and radio transmissions from Soviet air defense could be analyzed. 129 of those men’s remains have not been accounted for as well.
People think Gary Power’s U2 shoot down was a rare thing, but it happened constantly. In personal conversations LeMay even admitted he was trying to provoke the Russians.
I wonder whether it was worth it. Maybe.
LeMay was interviewed in 1992 and by then, he STILL believed that the U.S. should've gone to a nuclear confrontation with the Soviets and that Americans would've WON!
@@IronMan-tk8uche was a disgusting person. You should watch Joe Rogan talk to Oliver Stone, supposedly he was smoking a cigar while JFKs autopsy was being messed around with by military officials. The photographer asked him to stop smoking and he blew smoke in his face….
Very underrated movie.
Amazing political thriller...you can feel the anguish, the difficulty and the honest takes from all the players involved. An impossible situation, navigated through to clear waters with the help of shear will and thankfully, some luck. This is also a great example of why you surround yourself with people you trust, Kenny gave an honest assessment of the political situation, painted the true picture and helped Kennedy make a better decision, or at least hash out a better plan.
I recall a line (I will have to paraphrase it) at the end of the movie, where EXCOM are all celebrating the Soviet agreement to remove the missiles, and someone exclaims 'With a victory like this we can run the tables on Krushchev in the Middle East and Southeast Asia!' So bittersweet - out of one frying pan and excited to jump into two fires.....
Well, USA did remove their own Jupitermissiles from Turkey, so technically a draw.
A VERY underrated movie.....
SO RELEVANT TODAY! I've gleaned so much insight on today's brush with World War Three from this movie. Another good one was made by the German TV Zed.
You are right! I just finished watching the “For All Mankind” season 2 (the Apple+ series imagining a different reality of the USA-USSR Space Race - it was released about a year ago, but I only found it this year) and the climax of the season finale was intense, featuring echos of the Cuban Missile crises!
@@MikeKBar13 Thanks for sharing this! I'll have to check that out!
@@MikeKBar13 climax??
Great movie.
A great double-header with "Path To War", starring LBJ and McNamara
Who stars in that?
@@incredibleXMan great cast. Check it out. Truly outstanding HBO film
Bobby Kennedy was a big help to his brother for not engaging in a war with Rissia
True he was but still the ultimate decision lies with the president. You don't want to war with the Russians but you not about to let them push you around in your backyard
Thats only half true. He tried to avoid a war with Russia, but he really wanted Fidel Castro ousted.
@@grimmylane7590 yes we wanted Castro gone but when the Bay of pigs was a failure he just forgot about it and moved on
When JFK was elected President his father insisted that Bobby be in his cabinet. Jfk said it wouldn’t look right if He had his brother in his cabinet and asked the old man why? The old man’s reason came to tuition during the CMC. Papa Joe said your brother won’t be thinking about anything but you and you’ll never have to worry about Trust. During the high level meetings during the crisis Jfk asked everyone’s opinion on what to do next and everyone answered bomb Cuba except for Bobby. He worked a back door deal to prevent a war where no one wins and everyone looses not only at that time but for all times.
@@peterwolf2832 Everyone loosens?
Great Video! Love it!
This film is excellent, very well done!
Bruce Greenwood as JFK was awesome!
underrated film.
Great portrayals by Greenwood and Culp.
JFK had a big set of balls
I wish he were president now instead of an octogenarian that takes orders from the Easter Bunny…
But later he paid it with his head.
@@CEOkiller or the guy who thinks Geo Washington saved the airbases.
@@msb3235 yet he (JFK) won in the end as he is now Immortal, even greater & more powerful popular loved admired respected & missed (& much more) both nationwide/worldwide. Truth......Amen!
Just ask Marilyn.
Bruce IS JFK .....he really nailed it
Yeah, Maxwell Taylor was not the eye rolling hawk he was portrayed. But LeMay was not too far from the mark.
LeMay was a great intelligent brave creative battle hardened leader in WW2. Helped us win the Pacific war & Korean wars. However after that woyldve veen best for him to retire. 1960s required different approaches & uses of both US air & ground power & LeMay was stuck in 1945.
@@fredcollins8919 Le May wasn't just stuck in the 1940s. Lots of people, including JFK, fought in WW2 as well. LeMay was a hardliner trough and trough. Like everything could go down, if 2 americans and 1 Russian survived the apocalypse, LeMay would consider that a victory. Someone once joked, hopefulls those two surviving americans would be a male and female. Even right after the Cuban missile crisis was over he still had the opinion that they should go and invade Cuba. Think about that. LeMay also expressed, on more than one occasion, that the US should strike first at the Soviet Union with all their nuclear potential, as long as they had the upper hand, since they had a ration of 14 to 1 in nuclear missiles or something. Particularly with their strategic bombers. The United States had the supremacy and LeMay was in favour of a surprise attack. Which when you think about it would have been an actuall war crime. Not only starting a war of aggression on a sovereign nation but also with a nuclear arseneal. The guy was nuts. Hell the movie probably has shown him actually as less extreme.
@@CrniWuk I agree (bad enough, though effectively, back in 1945 when he firebombed Tokyo, causing more death & destruction there (entire city burned down) than in both Hiroshina & Nagasaki. JFK wasnt ever stuck in the 1940s nor in the past though he often referred to it expertly as he knew a LOT about world history & never hid it plus was fully aware of the present PLUS always looked to the future, a brighter better future in every way for both the USA& the great American people & equally important for people around the world, which explains why he was LOVED Respected & Admired (in every way) both back THEN & more so since his tragic needless death (& even more so Nowadays).....Cheers!
@@fredcollins8919 The Kennedys are the worst kind of American aristocracy. Daddy Joe made his wealth from smuggling booze.
Some truly uninformed opinions on LeMay in evidence. His biggest mistake was bluntly expressing his opinions during the 1968 elections.
As for Tokyo, the "entire city" most certainly not burn down. There was a certain logic in moving from high altitude precision bombing (as was practiced in Europe) to lower level fire bombing. Short version: it wasn't working to degrade or destroy Japanese industrial capacity. The XXth Air Force had a very specific schedule to meet in order to advance the plans of invading Japan, and they were woefully behind schedule. Try reading Superfortress!, supposedly written by LeMay; I suspect it's more like "as told to" the actual writer.
LeMay was a surprisingly practical man. He went with what worked. In the above book he even mentions interacting with Mao, when the ChiComs rescued a B-29 crew. LeMay merely remarked he got along fine with Mao.
Another time a subordinate officer came to him with a problem. A local tribe in China had rescued some downed crewmen, but there was a problem with payment; they wanted heroin. LeMay just said "pay them." The subordinate asked how he should record the transaction, and the general just said "I don't care, just pay them." Said officer finally listed the drugs as "agricultural supplies."
But, yes, the Tokyo firebombing was a terrible night. By the time of the surrender the XXth AF was destroying a city _per day_ . LeMay didn't do that from hate, but practicality. He was trying to end the war as quickly and efficiently as possible.
@@Caseytify Agreed
This a remote dropping movie..if it’s on you watch it..and it’s highly highly accurate
Great movie
HATED it when the movie ended.
One of the best films of the Cuban Missile crisis. i don`t know why is so underrated. I think that even the military bosses are shown as the villains here, in real life, they need to be prepare and ready, as the film shows, to deffend USA interests.
I agree. I love the dialogue here that O'Donnell is concerned/anxious that the military could be overcompensating for a previous mistake, and at the end he admits their actions could be the right ones. That shows someone who can think under pressure and who tries to provide objective advice.
That one guy looks spot on like Bobby Kennedy.
One of the few times a UA-cam clip has left me wanting to see a full movie. This seems....fascinatingly engaging. Are there any slow parts? Is this the average for the film?
Watch it.
JFK got good advice from Kenny. We need more people like that advising our Presidents.
The thing is that things were actually a whole lot worse than anyone knew.
First, a lot of the Soviet nuclear missiles were actually already armed and ready to fire. Had there been an invasion, the Soviet forces on Cuba were authorized and ready to resist it with nuclear weapons. The US marines coming on shore would have been vaporized in a mushroom cloud, and presto you have WW3.
The Kennedy administration didn’t know those missiles were ready. Kennedy thought that the big danger was that if the US invades Cuba, the Soviets would invade West Berlin and what happens next? He didn’t know that an invasion of Cuba would itself be the trigger for WW3 aside from anything that happens in Berlin.
And to make matters even crazier, I assume most people here already know about the Soviet submarine B-59 that was one turn of a key by one officer away from firing a nuclear torpedo at an American aircraft carrier, a pretty sure way to trigger WW3.
The sub had been under water and out of communication for days, was getting depth charged by American destroyers (think Das Boot), and for all the crew knew, WW3 had already started and they weren’t going to die without fighting back. So they were going to put a nuclear torpedo into the nearest American aircraft carrier as a last act. But this required the top three officers on the sub to turn their keys. Two did, including the sub’s captain. The third refused. His name was Vasily Arkhipov. Had he gone along, none of us would be here now. Freakish to think that we are all around today because one Soviet officer kept his nerve under very crazy conditions.
(By the way, who the F$!& depth charges a nuclear armed sub in international waters in the first place? Even if they were training-type depth charges with smaller warheads and couldn’t actually sink the sub, the sub’s crew don’t know that.)
It's October 2022 and the same scene is being played
What's the watch JFK (Bruce Greenwood) wears in this movie?
McNamara sounds like Sylvester the cat from the “Looney Tunes” cartoons.
‘They want a war’ Are the present chiefs of staff any different?
Under Joe Biden, f*ck yes they are different. FYI - Cuba had working nukes at the time. Any escalation to war eould have likely gone nuclear! You can look it up!
They always have wanted war going back to WW1.
Yes.
“we got shots being fired across bows”
Please, and I do mean that, please forgive me for nitpicking. An admiral wouldn’t be doing the briefing at the stand up board. They have well credentialed, enlisted folk for that.
Would have liked to see what those Thunderchiefs could do.
Nobody I ever talked to remembers the Cuban Missile Crisis and I don't remember it. I remember a lot of articles about it, after it had happened and I think after JFK was dead.
so genius
costner's boston accent is hilarious
It’s crazy to think how powerful the Soviet Union was from 1945-1980. People don’t realize the Soviets whipped us in almost every aspect of the Space Race. One of the craziest pictures I’ve ever seen in Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin taking pictures of the Soviets Space craft orbiting the moon at the same exact time the Americans reached the moons surface. They ultimately crashed and died. Ronald Reagan and his administration single handedly brought down our biggest enemy of all time. Now we have China, becoming even more powerful then the Soviet Union. In 5 years ever man from 18-32 could be in the pacific fighting the Chinese .
A truly MAGNIFICENT MOVIE 🎥.> I LIVED THROUGH THE CUBAN⭐MISSILE CRISIS. Scared Americans to death...Our Dad and Mom, also. >>>12 Army Tanks from Ft Knox rumbled up our street. >>Dad talked with one of the Tank captains....scary October. Louisville KY. Michael W.Johnson retired.in modesto California
Our country and history would be so different if President Kennedy and Bobby were murdered. We didn’t deserve them. These were good men, doing their best to manage impossible tasks. It was only a few years earlier that the threat of the world ending actually became real. Then America goes from perhaps the greatest General and Leader the world had ever seen with President Eisenhower, to a 42 year old young man who fought it WWII, was an orator, and smart as a whip. The eeriest thing about Kennedy’s death is the last thing Eisenhower said to the America people, “Beware the Military Industrial Complex.”
Need to watch this movie again, because its one of those underrated gems.
60yrs this year is it not since the CMC.
Bet there will be very little mention of it in case it gives credence to Putin for what he's doing in the Ukraine.
4:03 I know it looks cool but what he did just randomly go sign without thinking and while having a discussing about the end of the wold?
I think it was an executive order to give Costner authority to do what he was asking - make sure things turn out how he (JFK) wanted.
Imagen carrying this stress.
One of the best movies of a president ever made!
From what I understand, the writer and director, spoke with those who were still alive who were in those meetings. they said, after seeing the film, that it was incredible accurate. That John and Bobby created a "2-headed" Presidency,. Think about this: When it was time to send someone to meet with the Russian envoy in the closing hours...John doesn't send the Secretary of State...or the Vice President....he sends...Bobby. , the Attorney General. It was known, that about 70% of the meetings Bobby was present at...no AG, would have been requested to attend.
He was his brother lets be fair here. JFK specifically got Bobby into the Cabinet to have more control. He was an outsider in DC and knew he needed someone he could trust. And since historically that means family the choice was obvious. Whether that is ethical or should be legal is another matter.
@@florinivan6907 It kept us from a nuclear war and that's all that matters . The right wing and the NSA and the CIA and the military industrial complex took care of the brothers later . As well as Martin Luther King Jr . Because of that America eventually became an Oligarchy country , little by little year after year .
I was two years old slept thru the whole thing did it turn out alright ? or is ukraine part 2
1:39 *he doesn't look too confident right there.....*
Kennedy - "how did these men get to the stage where they could so casually expend lives?"
Also Kennedy - "I'm conscripting more young American men into the South Vietnam meat-grinder."
That was Johnson.
@@RideAcrossTheRiver Johnson continued it, but Kennedy started it. Check your Chomsky.
@@darthkek1953 Johnson _intensified_ it. Nixon made it a crime.
@@RideAcrossTheRiver so when Kennedy and Johnson used napalm on children, dioxins on food supplies, put plastic into mines so Vietnamese medics couldn't use ANY method to save victims, etc., all these clear breaches of the Geneva Conventions, none of them were "crimes"?
@@darthkek1953 Did Kennedy and Johnson order napalm to be used against children? Agent Orange was deployed, not dioxin, and it was a defoliant also used in the USA itself. Did Kennedy and Johnson order plastics into mines? So, there are the correct replies to your whataboutism.
Amazing they trusted mcnamara.
The Cold War was almost more scary just because you had to almost guess what the participants were thinking.
after this dutton returned to his ranch
General Lemay, to the other chiefs, "those god damn kennedy's are going to destroy this country, unless we do something about this"
Costner simple can't do accents.
Maybe, maybe. But there are also _some_ actors where _not_ using an accent doesn't disrupt their portrayals, and two names come to mind when I say that- Anthony Hopkins and Sean Connery.
All for SHOW. It will be interesting to learn our real history.
Waterworld and The Postman are cinematic masterpieces...
What are you talking about? What do those awful movies have to do with this movie. I’ll just say this, if those two movies are masterpieces, then 13 Days is the greatest movie of all time. I bet you also think eggplant is a delicacy.
@@gregneely1826 the implication is that kevin costner can do ANYTHING and be a HERO in real life. frankly, i CONCUR that costner is an EFFETTE SNOB AND A BLOWHARD WHO DOES NOT KNOW SHIITE FROM SHINOLA! did you NOT see the irony? also, the "robin hood" movie would be the GREATEST FILM OF ALL TIME!
They were terrible - now 'No Way Out' was a Costner movie that was actually good.
@@therealrvasinger241 the movie "no way out" was still an INVENTED STORY LINE.
You're half right. Waterworld was crap but Postman was criminally underrated.
Solid film, but too bad Costner had O'Donnell's role inflated to make himself key in the film. O'Donnell wasn't this involved in any decisions.
O’Donnell was a close friend and adviser to JFK…and he definitely had JFK’s ear at key moments during the Cuban Missile Crisis. That is not disputed by historians who have studied the crisis. To the extent as portrayed in this movie? Probably not. But it was still significant by all documented accounts…
This is the one everyone knows about. The one you dont know about, is called ABLE ARCHER. We were all saved by a man called Oleg Gordievsky.
High stakes politics right here.
The generals didnt know the soviets had ground command for the nukes. And several were operational sooner than they thought. If we went in guns blazing our eastern coast woulda been toast.
They also has a sub that would have taken out the entire east.
Good thing we united against a common for. Magneto and his mutant group of thugs
How did the ships get there, by going around South America? I highly doubt they could've gone through the (at the time) US-owned Panama Canal.
Easy. They could have originated anywhere along the Black Sea and passed through the Bosporus at Istanbul, or they could have originated at any of the Baltic states, or they might have even originated from Murmansk.
@@whiteknightcat Russia was able to use the Bosphorus and Dardanelles that easily? It was a spot of contention between them, Turkey and Western Europe for centuries.
@@Dragblacker OK, well that still leaves the other possibilities I mentioned.
Lemay was an absolutely horrific human soul and war hawk..he would burp during Joints meeting loudly because he craved attention..thought himself above everyone else and would walk into offices of his “underlings” and shit with the door open…he made a dig at JFK and appeasement aimed at him via his father to try to goad him into war..and when Kennedy was assassinated he sat in the “viewing gallery” with a cigar in his mouth grinning and Hume..one of the doctors performing the Autopsy told someone to go shut him up..they walked up to him and turned around once they realized it was him..Lemay was happy he was murdered..these same kind of people ..the war machine are in power today..in case you didn’t get the notice about the billions sent to Ukraine
Puts fear of climate change into perspective. Nuclear war was a far more immediate and tangible terror to deal with
I love how the US decides to impose a "quarantine" as if the US had any legal superiority.
Please put in netflix or any other !!!
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The buck stops here.
looks like the war machine is hungry again
Military industrial Complex
I really feel that if it had been any other person besides Kennedy and his team, the world would definitely be a different place right now.
The shit that's going on today is scarier that what happened in those 13 days.
Not even close to accurate
@@matthewgunter4936 Which is worse?
@@shresthadinesh4369 Cuban Missile Crisis by far
@@matthewgunter4936 But we are literally in the WW3.
@@shresthadinesh4369 no we aren't. Try reading some history.
This is totally an American perspective. So many things here are illegal. The blockade was illegal. The idea of the United States inspecting foreign ships headed to a foreign country should be offensi everyone who respects the rule of law.. Even the low level reconnaissance flights are a violation of Cuba's air space.
Daca vor trebuie sa și cunoască tacticile și consecințele razboiului
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Break the law mark
Great movie great actors one bad accent by Costner. Nobody knew what Kenny O’Donnell sounded like he didn’t have to try to do that accent that made him sound ridiculous.
Ummmm, Chains Of Command questions?!?! He is the COMMANDER IN CHIEF. PERIOD.
So this us why they killed him
Missiles of October with William Devane is far better. The accents expecially. 13 days is not bad....but watch the Missiles of October 1974 movie
Always wonder how they knew how many ships were coming before the day's of satellite's.
Planes and ships and binoculars
@@davidpickens8800 they have to fly half way across the Atlantic ocean to see anything. I guess like hurricane hunters were used.
They had decent radar back the. Just not as sophisticated as today
I'm thinking satellite's. Rader is good for 200 miles back then.
@@tommysimmons3258 Radar, Submarines, Spy Planes, Allies who monitor waters near their coasts...
13 Days is the name of this Movie...13 Months later JFK Would be assassinated.
A short time later the New Society appeared and America started to slowly go down hill, self reliance was replaced with reliance on Government, education was slowly replaced with parroting rather than learning, the result is what you have to day.
@@55Quirll Do you really believe that America started to decline in the 1960"s with the Great Society? Do you realize that for the first time million of African Americans could go to the polls and our society started to open up. What I see today is some Americans talking about engaging in a Civil War to restore our country to the 1950's.
@@ericsniper9843 Before 'The Great Society' the Blacks had 2 parent homes, black teens had lower unemployment than white teens, out of wedlock pregnancies were the same as with whites, blacks graduated almost the same % as whites, check out DC, after Government stepped in to assist that changed, more 1 parent homes, higher teen unemployment, lower HS graduation - those that graduated were below the national average in Math, English. I'm not blacks had it easy before but look at them now, Victimhood, Antifa and BLM which loot, burn and pillage and nothing happens to them. No, they are worse off now.
@@55Quirll I don't pretend to speak for all Black folks, but I'm fairly sure many would rather live in 2022 than 1962. I actually live in Washington, D.C. We weren't allowed to govern ourselves and had no control over our own tax dollars in 1962. The president would appoint commissioners who would govern the city. Now you speak about Antifa and BLM along with victimhood. My people have been catching hell from the moment we arrived on these shores. Do you know that BLM simply stands for Black Lives Matter? This movement was created after witnessing numerous murders of African Americans by duly sworn law enforcement officers.
We see things differently, but I can assure you that I did not storm the U.S. Capitol seeking to overturn the vote of the people on January 6, 2021.
@@ericsniper9843 I agree, things are better, but the government is far worse now, I would prefer the government pre 1960 to the monster that is present today, today everyone suffers under the present government. Why not All Lives Matter and what happened 400 years ago doesn't affect you or me today. We make our own successes or failures. Remember the past but don't blame it on what happens today. There was no insurrection on January 6, looking at the videos the police open the barriers and let them.
America do not have Leaders like THIS anymore! 😔
Your right. America has inserted puppets and traitors.
Yes we do.
I remember this, I grew up during this, the people in Government today are not like the people then, they don't know what they're doing, they can't speak or think properly, many of the citizenry are the same. Then, highly educated people, clear minds and thought things out, today, stupid senile people who should be in nursing homes.
@@kollin1023 No we don't.
@@kollin1023 Are you out of your fucking mind? we have Commies in the W/H
unnited state
Can anyone even imagine 45 sitting down with all his advisors like this , & coming to a LOGICAL conclusion ? Thank God it never came to that .
There's always some dillweed gotta make it political.
Go back and check Trump's record on international relations, especially the middle east. The man was a blowhard, true, but he made some good decisions.
Trump never had to come to any serious decisions regarding war, because he was so unpredictable that no dictator in the world dared to challenge him. That's the reason we need him now more than ever.
Yeah,45 wouldn't have invaded Iraq.
Can anyone even imagine 46 sitting down with all his advisors like this , & coming to a LOGICAL conclusion ?
The only war the US ever won, was the Iraqi war, and lets not count some student uprising in a South American country, I consider it not a war, but a complete genocide. You simply do not kill a thousand people because they want to have a different government and call yourself "liberators"
If US had gone to war with Cuba, it would gone the same way the first time they tried it and the second time they tried it, in utter failure.
Except this time, the Soviets were prepared to retaliate, the entire Soviet airforce was on launch command and the best Warsaw divisions were on standby to roll into Europe, they had spent months preparing for WW3, the Soviets knew, never trust americans but they sure as hell also knew, they would damn well push them real hard when the americans stepped on their toes like putting missiles in Turkey.
WWI, WWII........
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america won WW1 and WW2? In what sense are you talking about because last time I checked the German Empire literally surrendered after fighting the French, British, Belgians, Dutch and Russians for 4 years straight, the americans barely made any difference.
WW2, the Australian army had more combat hours in the Pacific than the US did in the entire course of the war in both Pacific and Western front, fighting 20 000 Japanese soldiers on some islands and weak old men on the western front is not winning, its called "taking the glory like a fat bully"
We should honor JFK more...every October should be JFK month
Absolutely!!!
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