I was happily surprised with this one - I think it is actually one of the best-looking 4K transfers/remasters out there. It was better then the first time I saw it in theatres.
It looks great, but I think the 4K just makes the 2009 CGI look a tad more "artificial", a little bit more "video game cutscene" than I remember. Nitpicks though.
I still love my Blu-ray edition and will probably stick to that for many years. But will definitely get me a copy of the 4K when I do feel like watching it 😁
Oh my god it's beautiful, I feel like I rediscovered this film when I saw it when it was released in theaters and I can already say that at that time it was quite impressive because James Cameron is a perfectionist man but that's another level and I think it's certainly one of the best transfers of 2023 that I see and I find that the sequel is much less impressive than the first part. Again you made my day Moon.
Not only does the remaster look so much better (some minor issues with oversharpening artefacts, but I'm nitpicking), but it also sounds so much better. The new Atmos track is one of the very few movies that actually makes full use of the platform, as in - they make actual use of object based metadata mixing. It isn't just another lazy matrixing of surround effects onto the heights like 90% of the so called "Atmos" movies on the market.
Wow c'est insane la différence, j'attendais tellement le 4K pour Avatar. Merci pour cette illustration de bénéfice fou qu'apporte le 4k @My moonization
I don’t get it how were they able to make it even better if it was filmed digitally movies that are shot with digital cameras are impossible to remastered?!
Dear Alex « Avatar’s live action elements were captured digitally in HDCAM SR format (at 1080p/24 resolution) by cinematographer Mauro Fiore and his team using PACE Fusion 3D and Sony CineAlta F23, HDC-1500, and HDC-F950 cameras, with Canon and Fujinon lenses. Additional performance imagery was captured using a virtual camera and volume, supplemented by a Simul-Cam process that combined the live-action, performance capture, and rough anamatic imagery all at once, allowing Cameron and Fiore to “shoot” the film the same way a documentarian might. All of this was then enhanced and supplemented by extensive computer-generated visuals to produce the final result, a 2K Digital Intermediate master framed in a variety of aspect ratios (including 1.78:1 for IMAX, 1.85:1 for 3D, and 2.39:1 for wide-release theatrical exhibition). For its first appearance on Ultra HD, the 162-minute theatrical cut of Avatar only has been AI-upsampled from the original master files to create a new 4K Digital Intermediate, complete with grading for high dynamic range (HDR10 is the only option on this disc, and the lack of Dolby Vision on a title this significant is unfortunate). It should be noted that this release does not include the 170-minute Special Edition version or the 178-minute Collector’s Extended Cut, nor is the Blu-ray 3D version of the theatrical cut included. (These, I’m told, were decisions made by Lightstorm, and it remains very possible that the longer versions could be released in 4K at a later date.) As was the case with the original Blu-ray release, the film is framed here at the 1.78:1 aspect ratio. The Avatar theatrical cut does, however, now include a new line of dialogue at the end of the film from Parker Selfridge to Jake Sully: “You know this isn’t over, right?” The 20th Century Studios logo also replaces the original Fox logo. (These changes were added for the recent 4K theatrical re-release earlier this year.) » Cheers !
Cheers homie, the thing with Cameron is he is a perfectionist as is and being all shot on fairly new tech it looked amazing as is, granted some shots look brighter and sharper but not a “Wow” improvement, don’t get me wrong of course I’ll be upgrading as I always do but as it’s not like Jaws or anything else shot on film it will take a sale for me to snag it. Thanks for sharing and proving, Love, Purpose n Peace MCD
Which version gets streamed on Disney Plus? I’m watching this on an iPad that is closer to 1080p than 4k, but the update here is still drastically better.
There are visible signs of A.I. upscaling having been used for this film in these screenshots, but you don't see people complaining about it here like they are for the other recent James Cameron 4K releases.
Glattgebügelt bis zum Schluss 😂Da der Film im Original zu der Zeit auch nur Digital 1080p gefilmt wurde , wurde für die 4k Version mit Hochrechnung und ( wie ich finde ) zu scharfen Filter gearbeitet 😢.Teilweise hast du minimales flimmern .Einige Konturen sind völlig überzeichnet ! Und der Teilweise plastische Look den auch schon das Original hatte tritt hier nochmal extrem hervor , was stellenweise schon nach Zeicheintrick ausschaut ...Auch hat sich wieder dieser Grünstich eingeschlichen, der Immer wieder zu beobachten ist bei neueren 4K Versionen .Alles in allem für mich durchwachsen...🎉Sehe jetzt keinen Grund die Blu ray zu ersetzen ...
Dear Duckstein „Für den ersten Auftritt auf Ultra HD wurde die 162-minütige Kinofassung von „Avatar only“ aus den Original-Masterdateien einem KI-Upsampling unterzogen, um ein neues 4K Digital Intermediate zu erstellen, komplett mit Grading für einen hohen Dynamikbereich (HDR10 ist die einzige Option). (diese Disc und das Fehlen von Dolby Vision bei einem so bedeutenden Titel sind bedauerlich). Es ist zu beachten, dass diese Veröffentlichung weder die 170-minütige Special Edition-Version noch den 178-minütigen Collector’s Extended Cut enthält, noch ist die Blu-ray 3D-Version der Kinofassung enthalten. (Mir wurde gesagt, dass dies Entscheidungen von Lightstorm waren, und es bleibt sehr gut möglich, dass die längeren Versionen zu einem späteren Zeitpunkt in 4K veröffentlicht werden könnten.) Wie bei der ursprünglichen Blu-ray-Veröffentlichung ist der Film gerahmt hier im Seitenverhältnis 1,78:1. Allerdings enthält die Kinofassung von „Avatar“ am Ende des Films nun eine neue Dialogzeile von Parker Selfridge bis Jake Sully: „Du weißt, dass das noch nicht vorbei ist, oder?“ Das 20th Century Studios-Logo ersetzt auch das ursprüngliche Fox-Logo. (Diese Änderungen wurden für die jüngste 4K-Kino-Neuveröffentlichung Anfang dieses Jahres hinzugefügt.) » Cheers !
@@Mymoonization Ja das ist mir bewusst! Aber in meinen Augen wurde es übertrieben mit dem Entcoding ...Mann wollte wohl krampfhaft das letzte rausholen 🤔...Viele Wachsfiguren Gesichter und Doppelkonturen .Zum Beispiel massive Treppenkanten auf dem ohnehin schon wachsartigem Gesicht von Sigourney Weaver bei Minute 51:24... ! Selbst in der Bewegung erkennt man vertikale Streifenbildung an der Nase .Und was die Überzeichnung angeht bitte mal die Details bei Worthingstons Gesicht bei 127:32 anschauen .Das ist so mit das schlimmste an Überschärfung was ich seit langem gesehen habe .Wie gesagt , ich muss für mich einfach feststellen das man es hier mal wieder übertrieben hat ( oder es zu gut gemeint hat ) je nach Geschmack. 🫠Ich finde die 4k nicht gelungen...Aber das ist nur meine persönliche Meinung .
Not seeing much other than a color grade change/hdr. I'll keep my special edition bluray. Honestly the bluray itself is probably one of if not the best bluray I've ever seen.
@@shaneth138 yeah I'm not a devote lover of this film. The 4k also doesn't have the extended cut. The bluray is gorgeous to begin with. Its also hard to tell off of these screen shots because youtube dumbs it down in resolution. I'm sure the 4k looks a little better but since I'm not huge on this film, this is a purchase I don't see a need to upgrade to. Enjoy your purchase.
Dear Heimkineast « For its first appearance on Ultra HD, the 162-minute theatrical cut of Avatar only has been AI-upsampled from the original master files to create a new 4K Digital Intermediate, complete with grading for high dynamic range (HDR10 is the only option on this disc, and the lack of Dolby Vision on a title this significant is unfortunate). It should be noted that this release does not include the 170-minute Special Edition version or the 178-minute Collector’s Extended Cut, nor is the Blu-ray 3D version of the theatrical cut included. (These, I’m told, were decisions made by Lightstorm, and it remains very possible that the longer versions could be released in 4K at a later date.) As was the case with the original Blu-ray release, the film is framed here at the 1.78:1 aspect ratio. The Avatar theatrical cut does, however, now include a new line of dialogue at the end of the film from Parker Selfridge to Jake Sully: “You know this isn’t over, right?” The 20th Century Studios logo also replaces the original Fox logo. (These changes were added for the recent 4K theatrical re-release earlier this year.) » Cheers !
Definitely grabbing the 4k. The bluray was already quite good but alot of scenes still felt plastic, like the mining machine, always looked like a cartoon but the 4k gives it definition and detail. Lowering the contrast was always an iffy choice to me, i like the vibrant colors on big screens, but , the trade off is clarity and detail, well worth it id say. And i think the guy who was saying the uhd is trash for this movie i think he just never saw it on a true 4k screen. Its pretty undeniable it looks great.
When you ask him basic questions about how he got his capture, he doesn't answer clearly. Starting to think he faked the captures to get clicks and views.
They should have released the Extended Cut in 4K
Soon !
James Cameron can then sell it to you again. Money, money, money.
Apparently there are data limits. There is only so many gigabytes that can fit into the disc.
@@Mymoonizationi dont think so
Bet ya they still will because collectors love to keep throwing away money on every release of the same film
One of the best transfers I've seen
I was happily surprised with this one - I think it is actually one of the best-looking 4K transfers/remasters out there. It was better then the first time I saw it in theatres.
The colours, contrast and the sharpness all look much improved! Thanks Moon!
It looks great, but I think the 4K just makes the 2009 CGI look a tad more "artificial", a little bit more "video game cutscene" than I remember. Nitpicks though.
I still love my Blu-ray edition and will probably stick to that for many years. But will definitely get me a copy of the 4K when I do feel like watching it 😁
Yup. Gorgeous like I said. Looks even better in motion.
My brother showed me this movie when I was in 7th grade I believe still my #1 movie of all time
It's because this came out when you were in 7th grade that your able to call this your #1 all time fav movie ever lol
Night and day difference..I’m looking forward to getting this as I much prefer the original film to the sequel
True !!!!
Oh my god it's beautiful, I feel like I rediscovered this film when I saw it when it was released in theaters and I can already say that at that time it was quite impressive because James Cameron is a perfectionist man but that's another level and I think it's certainly one of the best transfers of 2023 that I see and I find that the sequel is much less impressive than the first part. Again you made my day Moon.
That’s a pretty big difference. It’s a shame that they didn’t release the extended cut though.
Soon !
Goodness, the sharpness of the 4k DI is astounding. Can’t wait.
It was shot in 1080p the sharpness is artificial in if you look closer
@@homeofcinema Hello again. Still trying to spread your lies I see.
Like it or not, objectively it's a bad transfer.
@@homeofcinema you’re alone. No one else is saying this.
Never heard of the Internet?
LOTR needs this AI 4K upscale tech
The old 2k DI's have been sand blasted with extra DNR, so I doubt it would look that good.
Not only does the remaster look so much better (some minor issues with oversharpening artefacts, but I'm nitpicking), but it also sounds so much better.
The new Atmos track is one of the very few movies that actually makes full use of the platform, as in - they make actual use of object based metadata mixing. It isn't just another lazy matrixing of surround effects onto the heights like 90% of the so called "Atmos" movies on the market.
Wow c'est insane la différence, j'attendais tellement le 4K pour Avatar. Merci pour cette illustration de bénéfice fou qu'apporte le 4k @My moonization
Avec joie et merci pour votre commentaire !
I don’t get it how were they able to make it even better if it was filmed digitally movies that are shot with digital cameras are impossible to remastered?!
Dear Alex
« Avatar’s live action elements were captured digitally in HDCAM SR format (at 1080p/24 resolution) by cinematographer Mauro Fiore and his team using PACE Fusion 3D and Sony CineAlta F23, HDC-1500, and HDC-F950 cameras, with Canon and Fujinon lenses. Additional performance imagery was captured using a virtual camera and volume, supplemented by a Simul-Cam process that combined the live-action, performance capture, and rough anamatic imagery all at once, allowing Cameron and Fiore to “shoot” the film the same way a documentarian might. All of this was then enhanced and supplemented by extensive computer-generated visuals to produce the final result, a 2K Digital Intermediate master framed in a variety of aspect ratios (including 1.78:1 for IMAX, 1.85:1 for 3D, and 2.39:1 for wide-release theatrical exhibition).
For its first appearance on Ultra HD, the 162-minute theatrical cut of Avatar only has been AI-upsampled from the original master files to create a new 4K Digital Intermediate, complete with grading for high dynamic range (HDR10 is the only option on this disc, and the lack of Dolby Vision on a title this significant is unfortunate). It should be noted that this release does not include the 170-minute Special Edition version or the 178-minute Collector’s Extended Cut, nor is the Blu-ray 3D version of the theatrical cut included. (These, I’m told, were decisions made by Lightstorm, and it remains very possible that the longer versions could be released in 4K at a later date.) As was the case with the original Blu-ray release, the film is framed here at the 1.78:1 aspect ratio. The Avatar theatrical cut does, however, now include a new line of dialogue at the end of the film from Parker Selfridge to Jake Sully: “You know this isn’t over, right?” The 20th Century Studios logo also replaces the original Fox logo. (These changes were added for the recent 4K theatrical re-release earlier this year.) »
Cheers !
So what’s you’re saying is the movie is ai upscale to 4K?
Looks fantastic shame dolby vision isn't on the disc DISNEY >.< and it's not the extended edition but I still can't wait for it to arrive
Great vid waiting for extended version and Dolby vision ??!!
Extended edition planned but without any indication and release date for the moment !
Cheers homie, the thing with Cameron is he is a perfectionist as is and being all shot on fairly new tech it looked amazing as is, granted some shots look brighter and sharper but not a “Wow” improvement, don’t get me wrong of course I’ll be upgrading as I always do but as it’s not like Jaws or anything else shot on film it will take a sale for me to snag it.
Thanks for sharing and proving,
Love, Purpose n Peace MCD
Certainly benefits from the great colour gamut in some scenes ..............but is it worth the upgrade ? ?
Dear Paul
Have you seen the Sharpness of the picture, not to mention the Dolby Atmos. It is obvious 👊🏻!!!
Does the disc version look much better than the streaming one or is it pretty close despite the disc not having DV?
For me it’s pretty close except the Dolby Vision version !
Which version gets streamed on Disney Plus? I’m watching this on an iPad that is closer to 1080p than 4k, but the update here is still drastically better.
On Disney+ you the 4K version with HDR10 and Dolby Vision. There is no Dolby Vision on 4K disc James !
There are visible signs of A.I. upscaling having been used for this film in these screenshots, but you don't see people complaining about it here like they are for the other recent James Cameron 4K releases.
Obviously, because avatar is a more recent film and therefore with digital cameras while the older films were shot on 35 mm photochemical film.
Is this the streaming Disney+ version or the 4K disc? Please clarify your titles... Streaming is not the same as 4K UHD Disc!!!!
4K UHD Indeed !
@@Mymoonization DISC OR STREAMING?
Disc sorry 😀!!!
I'm very disappointed the 4K doesn't have the extended cut.
Soon Abdullah !
@@Mymoonization What makes you think soon ? Have they confirmed they are releasing Avatar Extended Cut on 4K ?
@@abdullahshaker17 He already answered the question.
@@Mymoonization It's been 4 months. You said soon. There's been no news of Avatar Extended Edition on 4K.
I said soon, but that doesn't mean it's in 3 or even 4 months. The date is not official yet. It’s all up to Disney.
Glattgebügelt bis zum Schluss 😂Da der Film im Original zu der Zeit auch nur Digital 1080p gefilmt wurde , wurde für die 4k Version mit Hochrechnung und ( wie ich finde ) zu scharfen Filter gearbeitet 😢.Teilweise hast du minimales flimmern .Einige Konturen sind völlig überzeichnet ! Und der Teilweise plastische Look den auch schon das Original hatte tritt hier nochmal extrem hervor , was stellenweise schon nach Zeicheintrick ausschaut ...Auch hat sich wieder dieser Grünstich eingeschlichen, der Immer wieder zu beobachten ist bei neueren 4K Versionen .Alles in allem für mich durchwachsen...🎉Sehe jetzt keinen Grund die Blu ray zu ersetzen ...
Dear Duckstein
„Für den ersten Auftritt auf Ultra HD wurde die 162-minütige Kinofassung von „Avatar only“ aus den Original-Masterdateien einem KI-Upsampling unterzogen, um ein neues 4K Digital Intermediate zu erstellen, komplett mit Grading für einen hohen Dynamikbereich (HDR10 ist die einzige Option). (diese Disc und das Fehlen von Dolby Vision bei einem so bedeutenden Titel sind bedauerlich). Es ist zu beachten, dass diese Veröffentlichung weder die 170-minütige Special Edition-Version noch den 178-minütigen Collector’s Extended Cut enthält, noch ist die Blu-ray 3D-Version der Kinofassung enthalten. (Mir wurde gesagt, dass dies Entscheidungen von Lightstorm waren, und es bleibt sehr gut möglich, dass die längeren Versionen zu einem späteren Zeitpunkt in 4K veröffentlicht werden könnten.) Wie bei der ursprünglichen Blu-ray-Veröffentlichung ist der Film gerahmt hier im Seitenverhältnis 1,78:1. Allerdings enthält die Kinofassung von „Avatar“ am Ende des Films nun eine neue Dialogzeile von Parker Selfridge bis Jake Sully: „Du weißt, dass das noch nicht vorbei ist, oder?“ Das 20th Century Studios-Logo ersetzt auch das ursprüngliche Fox-Logo. (Diese Änderungen wurden für die jüngste 4K-Kino-Neuveröffentlichung Anfang dieses Jahres hinzugefügt.) »
Cheers !
@@Mymoonization Ja das ist mir bewusst! Aber in meinen Augen wurde es übertrieben mit dem Entcoding ...Mann wollte wohl krampfhaft das letzte rausholen 🤔...Viele Wachsfiguren Gesichter und Doppelkonturen .Zum Beispiel massive Treppenkanten auf dem ohnehin schon wachsartigem Gesicht von Sigourney Weaver bei Minute 51:24... ! Selbst in der Bewegung erkennt man vertikale Streifenbildung an der Nase .Und was die Überzeichnung angeht bitte mal die Details bei Worthingstons Gesicht bei 127:32 anschauen .Das ist so mit das schlimmste an Überschärfung was ich seit langem gesehen habe .Wie gesagt , ich muss für mich einfach feststellen das man es hier mal wieder übertrieben hat ( oder es zu gut gemeint hat ) je nach Geschmack. 🫠Ich finde die 4k nicht gelungen...Aber das ist nur meine persönliche Meinung .
Not seeing much other than a color grade change/hdr. I'll keep my special edition bluray. Honestly the bluray itself is probably one of if not the best bluray I've ever seen.
The 4k blu ray is a thousand times better than the blu ray version. You're in denial because you spent the extra money on the special edition.
@@shaneth138 yeah I'm not a devote lover of this film. The 4k also doesn't have the extended cut. The bluray is gorgeous to begin with. Its also hard to tell off of these screen shots because youtube dumbs it down in resolution. I'm sure the 4k looks a little better but since I'm not huge on this film, this is a purchase I don't see a need to upgrade to. Enjoy your purchase.
4K DI? I thought the movie was shot digitally in 2K 🙄
You're right, but for this new edition they did a native 4K scan and it shows in the sharpness of the image !
@@Mymoonization But how do you scan a digital movie? They would have to re-render all CGI in 4K or am I missing something?
Dear Heimkineast
« For its first appearance on Ultra HD, the 162-minute theatrical cut of Avatar only has been AI-upsampled from the original master files to create a new 4K Digital Intermediate, complete with grading for high dynamic range (HDR10 is the only option on this disc, and the lack of Dolby Vision on a title this significant is unfortunate). It should be noted that this release does not include the 170-minute Special Edition version or the 178-minute Collector’s Extended Cut, nor is the Blu-ray 3D version of the theatrical cut included. (These, I’m told, were decisions made by Lightstorm, and it remains very possible that the longer versions could be released in 4K at a later date.) As was the case with the original Blu-ray release, the film is framed here at the 1.78:1 aspect ratio. The Avatar theatrical cut does, however, now include a new line of dialogue at the end of the film from Parker Selfridge to Jake Sully: “You know this isn’t over, right?” The 20th Century Studios logo also replaces the original Fox logo. (These changes were added for the recent 4K theatrical re-release earlier this year.) »
Cheers !
@@Mymoonization Thanks!
@@Mymoonization I hoping they release the collector's extended cut on 4K.
I don't see a great deal of an upgrade as the blu-ray was very good to begin with. Just a marginal colour change. Thank you for the comparison.
The sharpness and detail of the 4k is night and day compared to the blu ray.
You need to get your eyes checked. Its an astonishing difference.
@@lukey08it was filmed in 2K.
No this is a new 4K DI GHOST !
@@Mymoonization The cameras were not 4K.
Definitely grabbing the 4k. The bluray was already quite good but alot of scenes still felt plastic, like the mining machine, always looked like a cartoon but the 4k gives it definition and detail. Lowering the contrast was always an iffy choice to me, i like the vibrant colors on big screens, but , the trade off is clarity and detail, well worth it id say. And i think the guy who was saying the uhd is trash for this movie i think he just never saw it on a true 4k screen. Its pretty undeniable it looks great.
When you ask him basic questions about how he got his capture, he doesn't answer clearly. Starting to think he faked the captures to get clicks and views.
@@PersianImm0rtal no... don't let your bad day spill out onto someone else unjustly..
Hate to flood the comments section but I was wondering moon, have you done a comparison on Edge of tomorrow? Would love to see it
Not yet…..I think !!!