▶ Comparison of Alien 4K HDR10 (4K DI) vs Alien Anthology Edition
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- Опубліковано 11 кві 2019
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40 years later and Kane STILL pokes the egg!!
To anyone questioning the saturation of the 4k master...the problem is whoever's uploading 4k videos is trusting UA-cam codecs are faithful to the original.
seems like how they processed the screenshots crushed the blacks into oblivion. I think the HDR 10 is supposed to even that out.
@@Googaliemoogalie yeah the screenshots in this video for the 4k release look black crushed badly, and badly colour balanced too...I have the 4k and having watched it on my 55" oled TV, I can unequivocally say that it's a crap load better than the anthology blu ray release in every single respect including colour accuracy.
@@davepastern Sorry, I'm just now getting in Bluray and 4k stuff. So you think the 40th anniversary is the way to go???
@@samstauble707 if you have a 4k OLED, then yes. A non-OLED TV won't do the film's colour and HDR justice imho. I just grabbed the German release of An American Werewolf in London (4k) and it's excellent quality too.
@@davepasternsono assolutamente d accordo, anche se molti affermano il contrario
Still loving the blu-ray version of Alien
I've owned this in every format over the years, including LaserDisc. Each has its own charm. Can't expect the 4K version to be properly showed off without proper HDR, but despite the scenes adding a redish hint to flesh tones, I think they look fantastic. The color grading adds depth. I'll say, though, the Blu-Ray release did an amazing job.
hotchalupa go look up reviews of Aliens in 4k. Literally all of them love this movie in 4k. It's nice when a company takes its time and remasters an older film.
4K is so much better if you watch it on a proper Oled screen. It was designed for HDR.
Absolutely gorgeous, I cannot wait to receive my copy. Thank you so much for making this video.
Hard to decide. Both versions have their cons and pros. This looks magnificent though 4:02.
Cool. Alien, like Star Wars and Space Odyssey still looks modern, even without the remastering. They are masterpieces and will never become old.
star wars definitely does not look modern.
I can hardly wait! I pre-ordered my copy on the 5th! I just received a notice that my copy will be arriving on release day! Too bad there’s no Atmos remix. The dts-HD will be just fine. Just found my Heavy Metal comic book (an original not the reprint from the 35th Anniversary release.)
You can feel the time era more with the 4k version- the clothes texture and colors resemble the late 70's early 80's more
The colour shifting is nuts! I’m not sure I’m sold on 4K yet... can’t justify buying all my favourites again and the price increase from regular blu ray. Still looks great on my 1080 projector.
Thanks for putting together this comparison video, great job!
Mythical Gnome I’ve seen enough other vids to know that there’s definitely change in colour when it comes to a 4K remaster of any film. And not enough resolution upgrade for me to jump formats or spend $3000+ to upgrade my system. If you have a channel, send me the link. Ill give it a watch
Mythical Gnome What are you talking about 😅. This is the best comparison ever. Period!!
Really nice transfer with great colour engagement and great blacks with the HDR upgrade.
Great comparison but the highlight was the incredible soundtrack in the background 👍👍👍
Yes, It's Great! What is it?
I also want to know lol
The ending is definitely the Alien main title theme.......opening credits
Judging by what I saw, The Blu Ray has more of a yellow haze in some of the pictures. I should really consider getting the 4k release now.
Some shots look okay but the flesh tones are not natural, way too red. Also, what this really is, is a comparison of Alien Anthology edition to the Alien 4K edition that's been tone mapped from HDR10 BT.2020 to BT.709 color matrix so what we really seeing here is a SDR to SDR comparison with the 4K edition having different color grading.
Omg thank u for pointing out the red faces, I couldn’t figure out what looked off
So basically the 40th anniversary version has more ‘teal and orange’ .. as is the current Hollywood trend. Kinda prefer the original colour profile myself.
Interesting comparison though.
Sorry to hear that you have too much "teal and orange" but you need to tweak your color settings not the fault of the disc movie is awesome in both color saturation and skin tone.
@@abrahamhernandez8506 Erm no ... cuz There's nothing wrong with my computer monitors for anything else. I use apple cinema displays that are colour calibrated .. I'm also an editor and colourist .. so I know a thing or two about my own setup thanks.
Ok bro good story 👍
Hetoreyn Moonsong absolutely correct
the ship now is blue instead of grey. it is pathetic.
Looks incredible! Thanks for the comparison video👍
Thank you for doing this. Can’t wait.
My pleasure Mr Stern 👍 !!
Good comparisons. It would have to be seen on a HDR set to get the true colour timing of course.
Those icons shooting across the bottom of the screen are Very distracting btw.
@manu ochenta attention
You cant really see it here but the HDR is great when your set up properly
I bought and watched the 4K disc last night and right after the acid drip scene one scene started to skip and lag. I checked the disc and there’s no scratches or physical blemishes whatsoever. Did anyone encounter the same problem with their disc? Is it an encoding problem or did I get a bad disc?
i dont know, i think i kinda prefer the OG transfer, the new colours look too.......Aliens-y, but UA-cam and my non4k, non-HDR monitor probably play a part in that!
I just watched it on a 4K TV and I am a tad disappointed. It's meant to be a bit dark and murky - who expects ALIEN to be so bright and sparkly? And the pink faces are very disconcerting. Hopefully it is a UA-cam 'presets' thing, otherwise I smell a recall.
Does anyone know if you can change the contrast of the TV and then the faces do not look so red? ^^ sorry i am german
The red faces and skin tones. Apart from that you can see some really good upgrade in the picture quality and details. The android should have have a face that red at 5:45
Kind of sad music that actually fits this video very well. 😊😥👍
1:20 Much more visual noise in the 4k Version, just realised by watching the movie at my tv -.- (@the white background)
I saw it a few months ago in 4K and it was incredible worth the upgrade
I can't wait!
The colour grading in the 4k version looks off, too much blue, with the contrast way up and ISO down - odd, but the resolution is better. A comparison of the Betamax, VHS, Laserdisc, DVD, Blu Ray and then 4K would be fun!
Never judge video on you tube go check out the reviews on a review site some movies are worth the update others aren't.
You can't properly judge the screenshots because there's no way to duplicate the HDR from the disc. The only way to truly see the color difference is with your own eyes in person!
Great vid waiting for 4k uncut aliens ???!!!
What was the music used for this video?
That looks the business! 👍🏻
Can’t wait to watch the re-release in the theater. I’ve never watched this movie, but it looks and sounds very great.
Indeed Oscar 👍 !
@@Mymoonization Which one has the theatrical cut of the original Alien movie?
Yes !
@@Mymoonizationis this yes correct?
@@ughugh351 Well « Alien was shot photochemically in 1978 on 35mm film using Panavision cameras and anamorphic lenses. It was finished on film in the 2.39:1 aspect ratio. For this 4K presentation, the Theatrical Version was scanned in native 4K from the original camera negative (at EFilm in 2018), was restored by Fox (at Company 3/Deluxe Entertainment Services Group, supervised by Ridley Scott and Pam Dery), finished as a 4K Digital Intermediate, and graded for high dynamic range in HDR10 and HDR10+ (for the rare displays that support it, but if you have one this should make a big difference for you). The 4K disc includes both the Theatrical Version and the 2003 Director’s Cut via seamless branching. The Director’s Cut material appears to be upsampled from the 2003 scan of that footage (likely done in 2K). »
I hope I answered the question !
Super soundtrack
I have the Anthology edition. there is no reason to upgrade to 4k. Anthology was remastered so well, that if you simply upgrade to oled tv you will see significant upgrade to every film that is 1080p
no
Agreed 👍
This 4K master is wonderful
Could you please tell me the name of the music track you used?
This is my re-mix there is a lot of samples :)
I’m still prefer 4K version because of the colour depth in general especially with OLED TV. Its look fantastic.
WOW!
I really found this most of the normal blue ray version a vs their 4k version and that is the blue ray looks better . Surprised
People thumbing down your videos are VHS collectors
is this movie mastered in 1 or 4000 nits?
wish they added dolby atmos. wtf man. perfect movie for it
HDR awesome
I love both!
Anyone know why the DIALOGUE/SUBTITLES changed? Parker in a last heroic gesture yells "Get outta the room!!" to Lampert. (alien/quadrilogy collection)....it's been changed to "Get ready to roll!!" on ALL subsequent DVD'S, Blu-ray and streamed versions..It makes absolutely no sense!
Got mine pre order. Plz do aliens next
One day I hope 😊 !
Bummed about no Dolby Atmos or DTS X, but the HDR looks like a winner!
You know there is DTS Neural X if your av receiver supports it it essentially up mixes the DTS MA 5.1 into height channels giving you a pseudo DTSX comparable to atmos.
I confirm 👍 !
Abraham Hernandez i understand, but I just wanted Atmos for the discrete height information that could have been. Between the environmental controls, computer, structural, etc, it could have added to the unsettling atmosphere of the movie in a way that we’ve never heard.
True but DTS Neural X gives you discreet height channel sounds but of course not the same as native dolby atmos but a very close second.
I understand if you don't have an AV receiver and or Sound bar that has DTS Neural X but unless they rerelease it and redo the soundtrack DTS Neural X is the best thing you can have for discreet Height Channels.
Believe me When I say this DTS Neural X is no slouch even for simulated Height Channels the sound movement and discreet sound is more than passable.
Trust me the ambient sounds and when mother speakers you can clearly hear her voice during the last scene clearly in the height channels and her voice moves from upper left to right is very very nice.
The graphic you use for the Blu-ray cover is really confusing cus we are consecrating on the image but then we see the cover move in a way to suggest that a new one is being show, it's destructing and pointless cus your only saving a 3rd of the corner and it would be way more efficient if you showed the whole Blu-ray cover for a 3rd of the time
It was my first goal in the blast and you're right to mention it. However, this is the best way to show it for now. Maybe in the future it will be different. Thank you for your comment.
Cheers !
nice !
Got both and looks wayy better on 4k
Very very nice😆👍
That music in the background is amazing. Name please?
I'm just going to say this right now and defend my man moonization and state that his comparisons are accurate for the most part. There are some differences in some colors and shades but it is pretty much a fair comparison.
Now for the part where I state this you need to dial in your picture settings and stay away from cooler temperature and "dynamic color" modes to artificially "boost" brightness due to most mid range 4k Sets not having enough color volume and nits to boost specular highlights.
Aside from the inaccurate colors you also have a washed out picture if you push the brightness slider and or get "black crush" when you adjust the contrast to much.
A midrange 4k TV can get close but "never" reach the desired peak brightness and contrast that was intended of the 4k master.
You need a really good TV regardless of qled, oled, LCD LED. That is all there is too it no magic no trickery for the "best" picture you have to get a high end and or flagship TV no other way.
Would be so much better without that annoying popup on ever fracking scene
The bluray version was brightened up and everything is put behind a yellow-greenish veil (space scenes behind a whit-greyish veil). The picture looks flat and unrealistic because of the overall color veil and the hdr version allows all the red picture information and allows contrast where contrast belongs to. in many scenes it has way better depth than the unrealistic brightened blu ray picture. Cant u see that? The details seem to disapear a bit with hdr because these details were way to bright in the blu ray version but they are still there, when they are there. This seems unpleasant a bit but on a good screen u will love the better contrast because it looks way more realistic and not smeered flat.
Awesome detail, natural skin tones and deep blacks. Pre-ordered.
There are a couple of shots that are a little too red for my taste, particularly at 1:45. In contrast, 2:01 and 2:20 are an improvement in my opinion, as are the many of screen shots captured here. There is a pastiness to the skin tones in the Blu-Ray that seems to have been rectified on the 4K. Hopefully the red shots are the exception and not the rule, but I'll have to wait and see once I have the disc
"Natural" skin tones? Where do you live, on a beach full of people sunburnt from the tan?
The 40th Anniversary edition does have better use of color, brighter. But, Alien is the type of movie that darkness is not a negative. Both versions look awesome, imho.
Do you think Aliens will get a 4k release ? And The Terminator (1984) ?
As James Cameron said during a big interview for the German public, thanks to the success of Terminator 2 in 3D, he will probably make Aliens in 3D because for him 3D is a major asset even if we say the opposite and necessarily it will be rescanned hopefully in 4K or more !
The Abyss and True Lies also deserve the same treatment. It's way overdue.
When it comes to these compaeision videos, its a good idea for sure. BUT it does not show the true depth of 4k HDR becuase UA-cam cant generate HDR like its supose to be. You can se a slight difference here yes, but with a 4K tv and a 4k player....damn!!
While I don't mind the Enhanced Saturation, particularly around the Flesh/Skin tones. I despise The Blue Hue they threw in. It makes their clothes look like they're worn by Hawaiian Tourists.
Decades ago the great director John Huston did a much-shown commercial for a color TV brand, showing how great the colors were. Yet if you had an IQ above 90 you knew you were seeing these "superior" colors on your own, crummy TV. How can I see 4K accurately on my computer? I've got a 2017 iMac but doubt it has 4K capability.
Yes I know that this shows different contrast and tint from the previous release.
Dear Harry
Normally, your iMac is the ability to have a resolution in 5K max. just go into your preferences and then monitors and change the resolution simply. There is an even simpler solution is to download Firefox and then launch UA-cam in 4K without any problem. Because there is no 4K on UA-cam via a Safari.
Cheers 👍 !
How they all got heavy sunburn in space?
Why does the new version look like it's been recorded at 3200 ISO?
so much noise!
4k blu-ray is nearly perfect. I'll rate it 4.8 out 5.
Well that looks terrible, opening title turns to blue, it should be white, skins are red ... Everything is way too saturated. I'm puzzled by these 4k stuff, it's like some kids did the jobs right after going out of a mall tv retail settings session, it always looks like the colour profile is somewhat changing. It should be about light and it's just killing the colour balance too me. I defenitely hope that i'm wrong and that it is still possible to get it right with a good 4k screen calibrated , may be it's just youtube codecs, i don't konw
Vhs is the best CRT TV 1978
Why do they always ruin skin tones on 4K transfers, they go from natural on the Blu Ray to red skin tones on the 4K transfer 🤷♂️
Why do almost all 4K releases have a oversaturated green/magenta coloration?
There is nothing natural about it at all....more details?
Maybe....but the way off coloration ruins it for me.
It reminds me of the early days of DVD where most transfers looked like shit....
The green tint is because you aren't watching on a display with hdr
How did all the Caucasian 4K people get sunburnt living in a spaceship?
Yup,saw that to...gonna wait for ra full review on this.
To me looks like someone involved with HDR went over the top.
But champions of 4k will say it's a more natural look.
Hdr always looks like crap, the original Blu-ray transfer is way better
Maybe they were Scottish. Scottish people can get sunburn from the light in a fridge.
@@angryscottishidiot 😂😂😂
In the 40 aniversary they looks More pink
I believe this is the real deal. 35mm transfer. The right way !
if you have a good home theater system.....this movie is going to make you jump off your seat !!!!
Is there a 4k anthology?
Not yet !!
@@Mymoonization ok thanks
Strange hue changes in the 4K version!? Or is it over saturated?
Alien Anthology Edition is much much better and natural.
So they added blue tint to it so it could match its sequel Aliens.
Love it 😍. One thing is constant though. People winging in a comment section lol.
I don't get the choice to name the versions like that.... First of all there is no such thing as a "aliën antholigy edition".... That was just a collection of the first 4 movies on DVD/Blu-ray. Those movies were not edited in any kind of way visualy..... And the "40th Anneversary edition" came for DVD/Blu ray also, so this should be named the "4K" edition
Please….the Original colour 2K.....
Must be cos I'm viewing this on a non hdr monitor. The movie looked way better on my 4k tv, not as red as these images show anyhow.
Will stick with the Blu-ray quadology edition.I have the Sony x800 and it upscales it just fine.
4k fits only to the movies shoot with HD numéric camera. It made of Terminator 2 a true garbage whereas it was so damn good in Laser Disc.
looks pretty good in 4K
Glad I didn't buy it on 4k with the skin tone so red, I mean they in space why would it even be slightly red.
RED RED RED......skin.... why ?????
My question is: Is what is presented here an accurate representation of what one will see on a correctly-calibrated 4K TV as you're actually watching the film? I ask because I've seen other comparisons between 1080p Blu-ray transfers to 4K transfers where there appears to be a dramatic shift in color timing, etc., with the 4K that makes the 4K look utterly dreadful, yet when I watch the 4K in the moment, it looks perfectly fine.
What is being presented here as far as flesh tones, for example, makes me greatly concerned for what I'm going to see when I buy the 4K disc this Tuesday. It looks like whoever was responsible for the color timing just cranked up the contrast to bring out reds without actually double checking whatever algorithm they were using against an original print of the film. Flesh tones look far too red, almost sunburned or lobster-like; it reminds me, frankly, of just how much red and pink was brought up in the 2004 Blu-ray of the original "Star Wars" when compared to prior releases.
That redness you are referring to is dependent to your display you need to tweak the colors in your TV'S color management settings to reduce the red shift in the color and the pictures tends to reflect the natural tone of the skin more so.
Again a correctly calibrated TV is personal preference as it depends on your specific taste so don't feel bad if your display does not look the same as this comparison as it is up to "you" what kind of picture you want.
Like I will preach to people with any new TV "Tweak, Tweak, and Tweak your settings 👍
The jre
Ok now...WHICH edition was. Supervised by the filmakers? I get confused🤣
I was not a fan of the 4K conversion.
MU-TH-ER's little "church" looks crap now :/ No longer looks like twinkling candles... just looks like tons of red lights.
Wow
The majority of it looks better despite some overly saturated colours. The skin tones however are just horrible. Everyone looks too red and unnatural. it’s a hard one to decide on. The original blu-ray still looks great. Think I’ll wait for the box set of them all to come out before buying them all...again.
Anyone else here from jre #1481
There something wrong with the color space, it doesn't look like this on my 4k TV. Check this video it should look like this: ua-cam.com/video/Szs2nHRk-XU/v-deo.html
Looks like they booted up the contrast..
I thought 4k would be better resolution but it seems just to be different lighting and colour.
:(
Man these skin tones on the 4k Anniversary edition look like a nightmare.. why... And btw there is no difference in details at all. It appears that the 4k version is nothing but a poorly colour graded version of the film.
Don't worry, these screen shots look nothing like what you're going to get with the 4k disc. If anything, the 4k is actually less saturated in terms of skin colours when compared to the bluray. In regards to the overall colour grading of the 4k, it is also a little more muted than the bluray, but you can be rest assured its worth the upgrade in terms of screen resolution. Tiny little details, hidden in the dark depths of the Nostromo, like weathering, faint lettering and photos on the walls and control panels can now be made out clearly. If you're a Alien fan, its a must have.
@@captaindallas9793 If really "these screen shots look nothing like what you're going to get with the 4k disc" I wonder why to post them
I bought this 4k 40th anniversary Alien movie. Played it on a 4k ultra blue ray/4k Samsung TV and it doesn't look anything like the comparison shown here. Also, the sound was horrible.
Again not the fault of the disc. Movie sounds and plays great on a well dialed in display and if you have a decent sound system it sounds awesome.
@@abrahamhernandez8506 Are you saying I have a shitty setup. I'll have you know I have a decent sound system and a decent display. That shit wasn't cheap.
Not saying you setup is shitty need to tweak your color in the color management settings to tame the greenish hue out and then switch to warmer temp and again stay away from cooler temps and dynamic color mode on your TV colors will look brighter and washed out but color will be inaccurate.
I'm sorry that you don't see the difference but unfortunately all Tv's regardless of "Price" need to be fine "tuned" away from the default settings to get that picture to the way you like.
As for sound it is the same lossless soundtrack that as on the previous blu ray. If you were expecting DTSX and or Dolby Atmos this release doesn't have it.
@@abrahamhernandez8506 Okay, well do you have any recommended links/videos to properly calibrate my setup?
Well give me a heads up on the type of tv and sound setup you have and I'll do my best to help fine tune your TV and sound 👍.
I'll stick to my blu-ray version... It really is not worth double dipping to 4K.
i knew i should have kept my expectations low on this.especially when it retails only for 14 bucks.ill stick to my anthology bluray
The 4k Ultra HD Blu-ray is definitely the better choice to view this classic syfy thriller