Venom - Doug Reviews
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2018
- Is it as bad as everybody says? Is there any light in this dark gooey tunnel? Doug gives his thoughts on Venom.
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Venom is a 2018 American superhero film based on the Marvel Comics character of the same name, produced by Columbia Pictures in association with Marvel and distributed by Sony Pictures Releasing, it is intended to be the first film in Sony's Marvel Universe, adjunct to the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU).The film is directed by Ruben Fleischer from a screenplay by Scott Rosenberg, Jeff Pinkner, and Kelly Marcel, and stars Tom Hardy as Eddie Brock / Venom, alongside Michelle Williams, Riz Ahmed, Scott Haze, and Reid Scott.
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“When I get outta here there’s gonna be carnage... PG-13 carnage.”
I dont know how they can make carnage good with a pg13 rating. The sequel needs to be R
jokerhalo1 me ether
@@jokerhalo1 I'm hoping the sequel will be Rated R
That's the setup. Venom 2 will be X-Rated
@@jokerhalo1 I mean they got away with alot of biting heads off and shit tho
Venom in the comics is an anti hero who cares for the innocent. The only reason he's considered a villain is because he wants to kill spiderman. However he puts that aside real quick and teams up with spiderman to fight Carnage which shows that he cares about protecting the innocent even more than killing spiderman. Venom is phychotic, twisted, and brutal but he is not evil.
Yeah, a lot of people mistake him with Carnage.
That's because those people are posers.
Clovis Merovingian Except he’s not psychotic twisted or brutal in the movie. He’s just a normal superhero who occasionally is brutal.
I wouldn't even call him phychotic or twisted.
Basically a Punisher, Kraven, and Taskmaster.
Eddie Brock: "Why me?"
Venom: "Because you are neither an employee at that corporation nor some one of their prisoners."
Venom being a loser on his planet is actually pretty accurate. He was kicked out, that's why Spidey stumbled onto the symbiote during the Secret Wars.
I thought that Venom was a gift to him, am I remembering wrong?
@@clintmclintock its both lol
Pierre-Louis Côté Wasn't Venom sent to where he was in Secret Wars because he was deemed insane, even for the evil Symbiotes?
From what I read, he was deemed insane because he wanted to form a symbiosis with the host rather than kill the host. Apparently, the rest of the symbiotes liked to drain their hosts of their stamina to the point where they die.
@@DuelaDent52 I don't know about that, but in the Comics Venom has always been seen a "tame/good" symbiote. You might be thinking of carnage.
I should probably state that the movie was based on the lethal protector and hunger series, where venom and Eddie are in a more "romantic" relationship, all this stuff is in that series and its pretty faithful.
As for the relationship, it turns more romantic and they outright refer to it as a marriage. They are more like an anti hero and care about protecting innocents in that series. The relationship in the comics is why the girl says the kiss was venoms idea, and venom was an outcast on his planet.
He wanted to actually bond with his host instead of devour them. Its was pretty faithful to the comic series it was based on.
I really don’t know what effects they can do to make Venom any more realistic. I feel many people’s expectations of CG are too high for every production. The second people know that an effect was CG, they just won’t allow themselves to be fooled by it unless it’s the absolute best, and even then they always compliment the other effects. It’s like puppets, even the best puppets won’t fool everyone, but because it’s, “real,” and, “actually there,” and it automatically gets bonus points. So many people just treat CG as lazy effects or just ignore them and I think that’s unfair.
Charles Hockenbury 4 words: Little Shop Of Horrors.
I really just want people to stop treating at least halfway decent CG as half way decent and not God awful. Give CG a little bit of credit stop treating it as some lazy cheap trick. (LSOH is amazing by the way no argument over here).
Movies are supposed to make you buy into the universe. Bad Cgi can take you out of it. We've seen plenty of examples of amazing CGI like planet of the apes.
Carlos That’s true, and I hope I’m not coming across as some ignorant fanboy. Honestly, I just have a hard time seeing so called bad CGI. For example, I cannot for the life of me see what’s wrong with Cavil’s lip in Justice League. So I guess I do take it personally when people call out a film for it’s distracting CGI when I wasn’t bothered at all, but I still feel CG has a bad rap, like it’s too easy a target. In Venom for example, what on earth could any effects specialist do to make a sentient, semi liquid, alien creature “more realistic?” Maybe if the focused on just venom and no other aliens they could iron out the effects, but I honestly don’t know if it could look any more realistic than this. You could do a combination of effects, but then of course everyone will call it “fake looking “ at any point CG is required for an action set piece, which would only be slowed done by more concrete effects. I’m not trying to say bad CG isn’t out there, and you’re mileage may vary, but isn’t possible that we are trying to hold a certain affect to a bar that it can’t reach on its own? CG only ever seems to be recognized when it somehow exceeds all expectation or “fails” miserably. Not every film is as good as Jurrasic Park, so why should every effect be as good as the ones in that?
First of all, it isn't hard to use practical effects, there are so many shots in this that would look so much better if they were done practically. Cg should compliment the effects, not be the main course. And there is great CGI is things such as infinity war as a recent example or annhilation, venom had too much going on and it just made it worse. A lot of shots were good but not always
I'm gonna have to COMPLETELY disagree with the "we wanna see Venom as the bad guy only" mentality, I'm not a big comic book guy (my thing is mainly manga), but I do remember Venom having a redemption arc and even sacrificing himself in the 90s cartoon, also, a friend of mine who is big on american comics lent me a venom miniseries that stars him as a good guy, he still hates spiderman and wants to kill him but throughout that story he was going out of his way to help some people. Which honestly makes him much more interesting than just being a plain bad guy.
And his reason for killing Spider Man is sound because of Spider Mans action with the symbiotes.
OttoeCamn Here’s the thing though. The tag line of the movie is “The World has enough Superheroes”. That already implies that they’re gonna make him a villain in this movie all the way through. So when he becomes a hero, it feels like it’s going against its own advertising.
I'll admit I didn't see that Tagline, still, I think it's pretty unreasonable to expect Hollywood to make a straight up villain as the protagonist, so him as an anti-hero is fine. (In fact, the only time I remember ever seeing anything with a full fledged Villain who is 100% as the Protagonist was in Death Note- The anime and manga, not the dumb Netflix movie).
OttoeCamn Don’t forget Infinity War (Thanos may not have been the hero but he was the main character).
OttoeCamn i agree
Y’know, that whole venom was a loser on his planet thing is not entirely inaccurate. In the comics, the black symbiote was deemed insane by its own people and and was labeled an outcast for actually wanting to bond with its host unlike the others that were basically parasites.If it’s described in the movie as Doug says then yea that’s pretty silly and forced
It does kind of come out of nowhere. I wasn't expecting this concept to come at all into the movie, dad so when they alluded to it I found myself pleasantly surprised
I will say the film captured the silliness/stupidity of Venom's banter in the 90s comics. That was pretty accurate.
And everything else?
I feel everyone is playing a prank on me. What over the top silliness? Did I even watch the same movie?
@@foxdie1001 I don't think anyone who saw this film knew what they were really watching, be it critics or regular moviegoers. :/
@@manuelalbertoromero9528 I enjoyed it just going in with pretty much no expectations except that I was looking forward to the Eddie/Venom convos and I think it was enjoyable.
It is a shame though that Sony, much like Fox could never quite get things as good as the MCU, song could benefit so much more by just working with Marvel completely allowing for the use of more than just Spiderman...
@@robertpalmer8080 ...I was honestly just hoping for a Horror Superhero film. -_-
25:38 actually yes, since in the comics the Venom symbiote is considered to be "too nice"
...Define nice, by human standards.
kelan baron Yeah, but to throw that in at the last second with no prior build up is just bad writing.
@@cartoonnetworkdisneyxdsupe6864 sort of like how the comics do all the time right. see the link.
Aaaand of course he’s not gonna respond because he knows your right.
Actually that was retcon, all the symbiotes are good, Venom and carnage were the damaged ones
Hate to tell you this but it WAS a rom com. And Eddie and Venom were the couple. (read some more modern comics with them, yes it's canon and not just 'shipper goggles'). This movie doesn't give them a ton of time to develop to that point, but they obviously have snarky couple chemistry. I am not saying it is a *healthy* relationship, it's very codependent and both have issues, but it still is a relationship. Meanwhile Anna and Dan were refreshing as hell (new boyfriend who was supportive, and doesn't end up betraying / being an ass to the ex boy friend, and same with Anna who was100% justified to dump him but then also still cared a friend to help him when she thought he was like having a mental breakdown, and wasn't a 'vilified bitch ex').
It was a fun cheezy AU romp with a dysfunctional human/monster couple and I rather enjoyed it. Not saying it was a 'great movie', it does have a lot of basic issues many of which you stated and I agree with (weird editing, pacing issues, awkward dialogue, questionable villain), but it has a lot there character wise for those looking beyond a shallow viewing of 'action hero movie'. That stuff obviously went way way over your head. Still, thanks for the review, it's always fun seeing different viewpoints!
It wasn't a good movie but it was fun and delightfully cheesy; I liked it being different from the super serious intense stories we usually get out of superhero films.
Strangely I find this film actually good.
Like REALLY good..
I also found it hard to find the negatives...
ouch.....that is pretty bad
Wait 5 years for you to turn 15, watch it again, your perspective will change.
Same here. It’s dumb, I know it is. But I loved it.
You obviously don't watch many movies
@Dovamax 31 its hard to draw a line. Its your opinion that Venom is good. Subjective. May I ask did you like the Last Jedi?
Is no one gonna talk about the Wilhelm scream when venom fights the swat team??
why? that scream is used in ALOT of movies, and in many of them its done on purpose as a gag of sorts.
deothetris why would we?
I didn't mean it in a bad way I laughed out loud when I heard it in the theater.
It felt out of place 😂 in movies it's usually more subtle, like in Infinity War.
Why does it matter, seriously. Insteqd you're phrasig your statement like a dick instead of just mentioning it off handedly
Well there was apparently 40 minutes cut out of the movie according to Tom Hardy
Popcorn for Breakfast this video was the 40 minutes that were cut.
@@NGScoob It might be just me, I'm not sure, but yeah it did feel like it took roughly around 40 mins for us to see thw titicular Marvel character in a hour and 52 minute movie.
I have a parasite.
*PARASITE?!*
It's a term of endearment.
*APOLOGIZE!*
No. *APOLOGIZE!!!* alright. fine. I’m sorry. So what do you wanna do now? *the way I see it, we can do whatever we want.*
Eminem rolls
Ha ha
Doug you're reading the wrong comic, you need to get Lethal Protector, the comic you were reading was right before he became a anti-hero.
NO Doug we Venom fans do want to see that, he is not a bad guy and this movie IS a good adaption of the comic. I don't doubt you have read some of the comics but from the sound of it you are not familiar enough with the character. That IS Venom.
Hate to break it to you Doug but Venom is the weakest out of the named klyntar and the klyntar that it was around exiled him to Battleworld because it wanted a true symbiotic relationship with it's host.
You absolutely wrong that we Venom fans hate this movie, in fact most of us like it. IMO I give a B rating.
...Nah.
The problem is the movie straight up uses the tag line, “The world has enough superheroes”. It advertises itself as making Venom a villain, and that falls back on it to make him a hero, which goes against the whole method they were advertising the movie.
@@cartoonnetworkdisneyxdsupe6864 Also, didn't they advertised this as more of a superhero horror? Then why does sound like more of a straight up comedy?
@@cartoonnetworkdisneyxdsupe6864 Well, it doesn't matter. The film already doing well at the box office, so clearly general moviegoers are enjoying this more than most critics really
@@Cartoon Network/Disney XD Superheroes
It also used the tag line Embrace Your Inner Anti-Hero. Both are fitting for Venom because anti-heroes are not considered superheroes for the most part, instead they are considered their own category. So that isn't a problem with their advertising.
they cut like 45 min from the movie, all of tom hardy's favorite scenes were all cut. So expect tons of plotholes and weird scenes
Mephzice wait for the Blue Ray, is what your saying?
yeah.. read that aswell in the news somewhere.. 45 minutes worth of video might not be 45 minutes of actual ekstra movie.. but perhaps it could be edited into something less stupid.. i havent seen it, but it got 1 and 2 out of 6 dice-roll kinda thing here in norway..
Apparently, a lot of this was just Tom Hardy messing around in-character.
I think it's. An excuse because they nothing about directors cut in bluray
*facepalm*
Why does this keep happening to movies?
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It's interesting that he didn't think Eddie and Venom had chemistry. Many people, myself included, like their chemistry/relationship the best.
Most of their conversations were just Venom telling Eddie to go places and do stuff. And it begins to dawn on you that most've Venom's terrible dialogue is swearing, exposition, and violence talk. There's no actual personality underneath all that, it's all just surface level phrases and lines.
@@cartoonnetworkdisneyxdsupe6864 It's neat that despite those limitations the audience still resonated with their banter and relationship.
Jeggson Vohees But that’s only because it’s built on lines that made them laugh. There’s nothing else beneath that, and it’s kind of frustrating that writers don’t have to try to get praise. They just need funny lines with no substance or personality, and audiences will eat it up.
@@cartoonnetworkdisneyxdsupe6864 I agree. They need to develop Veddie's relationship further, go into detail for why Venom likes eddie as a host. I recently saw Bumblebee, and sadly it suffers many of the same problems you mentioned in Venom. Both are being praised as fantastic, when from a writing, story, and character perspective they are incredibly weak. People are settling for inferior products in their films, so long as they feel good and laugh.
Jeggson Vohees Ah, no. Bumblebee actually had character and story. It didn’t build characters purely off of jokes. Charlie actually has a personality(standoffish, antisocial, snarky, and isnt ok with the changes in her family) and a clear character arc alongside Bumblebee(learning to be able to make friends after alienating herself due to her fathers death) Bumblebee also has clear character despite never talking. (He’s curious, clumsy, naive, and friendly). The story was simple, but at least easy to follow with clear 1st, 2nd and 3rd acts. Venom didn’t even have a 2nd act. So, Bumblebee is miles better than anything Venom presented.
Personally, I really did like the banter between Eddie and the symbiote. Many of its decisions didn't make logical sense because it's not that intelligent of a creature. It works on instinct. Later on, it begins to become emotional because not only was Eddie influenced by it, it was influenced by Eddie.
I think the chart guys got their hands on this movie unfortunately...
"But the chart says"
Avi Arad, which is worse than the chart guys
@@David-nq8cv "Takes chart and throws it at the street.
@@David-nq8cv *sets the charts on fire* fuck the charts
But the chart says that PG-13 sells better.
If by some miracle Venom gets a sequel, they need to go hard R for the violence and gore, especially if Carnage is the bad guy.
Cuban Pete Oh 'od, don't give them ideas! It's bad enough they left the door open for Predator to join the Avengers!
Jeggson Vohees Hope they do
Svetlana Milrud Why not? They've let everyone else join at this point.
Cuban Pete Oh man, maybe she's their trump card in IW 2! She's beaten Thanos in the comics, after all.
I'm sorry, they WHAT?
... I'm starting to think Doug did not actually watch this movie, but had a 1 Hour Acid Trip!
That's the best idea
Gregg Mc Farlane No. I watched the movie, and this is pretty much what I absorbed. Weak CGI, badly written characters, a terrible plot, no character arcs, and atrocious overall writing.
@@cartoonnetworkdisneyxdsupe6864
I was actually joking that an Acid trip was the equivalent of watching it if removed lol.
Cartoon Network/Disney XD Superheroes finally someone who hates this movie
GrubbyArmadillo 98 Come, my friend. Let us hate this garbage movie together!
I love the venom movie!👍🍿
All the critics are wrong for hating it imo. The music was too loud though. I wanted to lower the volume a lot. But the movie was fun and interesting.
At least Rob is not here to yell at Doug about taking him to see Spider-Man 3.
+Sandeep Mehta Ok, there are a ton of problems that make Spider-Man 3 not so good, even though it's not the worst thing ever. It also has one of the best Spider-Man fights in Peter vs Harry. Other than that, it's not brilliant. The writing for sure is not being called brilliant for all the reasons already mentioned. I wouldn't be all this confident in mentioning this if the movie was actually that polarizing, which it really isn't. It's not a well-liked movie.
Not gonna lie I was a bit disappointed that Rob wasn't there since he's a bigger Spidey fan
@Sandeep Mehta venom was fucking awful in spiderman 3.
also, you mention Mulholland drive and 2001, but here's the thing - those were VERY well liked by most critics, and are to this day considered some of the best movies ever. they were just too intelligent for standard movie audiences.
not even remotely comparable to the stupidity that is spiderman 3, that movie was a complete mess.
YOU can like it all you want, but it was still a mess of a movie and nothing will change that, and trying to compare it to 2001 is such a fucking joke.
@@Basch152 you didn't give a reason why Spiderman 3 was bad. And he wasn't comparing it to 2001 he was just using it as an example of audiences being retarded when reviewing movies.
Sandeep Mehta I too enjoy SM3 and am a BIG raimi fan... but SM3 objectively has a lot of flaws and makes the best of what it was forced to include. It has too many villains and because of that can’t give any of them the screen time they deserve. Originally Raimi wanted to do a separate trilogy to cover the symbiote story but due to studio meddling it got absorbed. I’ve always felt like there are 2-3 good movies hiding in SM3 but they all lose something forced together.
TLDR. You can enjoy and appreciate something while still acknowledging it has flaws
*_Mr. Doug, I don't feel so good._*
"We killed an Avenger!"
I love how they made Spiderman one just so they could say that.
So he thought the movie was okay huh? I actually would love to see if he makes a clipless review for Venom at the end of Nostalgia-ween!
Same, his sketches are so cheesy but I love them lol
No. I dislike clipless reviews.
Yes that's what im saying, maybe they can make venom be played by Devil Boner
I hope
I mean by all means I understand your critique of it as a movie but your lack of knowledge of the character itself is more than apparent so please stop acting like the portrayal of the character is wrong the acting is good the portrayal is good but the editing plot and structure of the movie is lacking. You dont know about planet of the symbiotes, lethal protector, separation anxiety, or any of the arcs. The movie is clearly fan service to venom fans. He is a loser among the symbiotes and is an outcast for wanting to bond instead of eating hosts. He is the weakest of the symbiotes including his offspring riot.
I saw it yesterday and I enjoyed it for what it was. I thought the venom character was funny... btw Eminem did the Venom song.
Jenna Smith Really? It sounded like vanilla ice
Ted Destin nope it's on his new album
@@teddestin2194 lmao! Like how the 90's Ninja Turtle's movie ending.
[Go ninja! Go ninja! GO!]
@@Jdwg51887 you missed the joke...
I think I am the only person who likes this movie.
your not alone
Fox: Nope, I liked it too. So hope it gets its sequel
@@9-bitfox
Question how good is this movie i can't see it till tomorrow so plz tell me is it good or not..how good is the humor
No there's alot the audience score of MC and RT crushed the critics score
@@jarrodedson5441 Fox: The humor is one of the best parts of the movie, Venom is kindve a Dark Superhero Comedy. Which is honestly super awesome, Tom hardy and the Symbiote are some of the best parts of the movie. I recommend it
I actually enjoyed the movie. Call it a guilty pleasure for me, but I legit enjoyed what it was. Yes, they have some BIG plot holes that can easily ruin it. But I went into this movie not expecting a direct page-to-screen thing. I mean, it’s rated PG-13. I’m not expecting it to be good. ButI loved “Venom”s personality and interactions with Eddie. Honestly, if they somehow go make that carnage movie (highly doubt it) I hope they make it rated R.
So the comment about Venom being kind of a loser was, I believe, a reference to how the symbiote was seen as defective because it wanted to permanently bond to its hosts, instead of using them up and moving on like the others.
That should have been explained but the comment was vague as fuck
Don't you dare to throw an old comic like that. Again. In your life.
Don't worry, I'm sure Malcolm or someone was off to the side prepared to catch it. Doug would NEVER just haphazardly toss such a precious relic...right?
He wouldn't, hell, he probably practiced that opening a few times and made sure there was a pillow or something to catch the comic.
1993 isn't that old.
@@funkyweapon1981 1993 is 25 years, a quarter of a century.
@@SuperMegaCoffeeGuru yeah but wasn't that during the mass produced collector's limited edition multiple cover era? How rare or collectable can something so mass produced be? That's how the comic economy crashed right?
Ok. People were complaining (and rightly so) that Venom was pg-13. Since Venom is a cross between an addict’s mentality and a monster’s hunger, the movie really can’t flex Venom’s muscles under that limitation. BUT. How in the fuck are they supposed to do CARNAGE if Venom is pg-13!?! Carnage! The name alone needs to be hard R. If Venom is a monster, Carnage is a demon. Hell. One reason why I love the Maximum Carnage game is it felt like Carnage just being loose in the city caused enough chaos that it’s game time fore every punk, mobster, and villain to do pretty much whatever they want. How can Sony, morons as they are, even HOPE to do Carnage any justice when Venom is too hardcore for them?
Answer. They can’t. God, I hope the MCU keeps going with Spider Man to see that version deal with the Black Suit addiction, the guilt of Brock and Venom, and the extreme manicness of Carnage. It would be amazing.
I was hoping for the R rating too, it's what Venom really deserves. but at least the pg 13 lets more people see it
Venom still eats brains though.
I think the best way MCU could handle the symbiote is just not cram it all in one movie give us a movie were Spidey gets the suit but he keeps it to the end he shows up In a few other marvel movies and each time he get more and more on edge then were all primed for his next movie heck Spidey doesn't even have to get it in his movie give it to him in anvegers then we'll have more time to develop the symbiote as a character so it dosn't feel tacked on to Eddie
@@anthonyrangel7239 so you think the mcu should take their time and not try to cram like 6 different symbiotes in a movie?
Viper Hareous Gargan Venom is best swole Venom 10/10
I had a lot of fun with this movie! It was weird, because I saw flaws, I acknowledged they we're there. But the movie seemed to be having so much fun with itself that I couldn't help having fun too. Also, the more modern adaptions, from what I could understand as a very casual comic fan, have him as more of an anti-hero rather than a true villain, since he was so darn popular.
Tl;dr: Wasn't fantastic, full of plot holes, but I had fun.
The problem is, that Eddie Brock simply does not work for this kind of Venom. You need Flash Thompson, who bonded with the Venom symbiote and actually showed it how to become a hero. Also the struggle of a crippled veteran bonding with the symbiote to mend his body would have made the connection more powerful as he would require it too and interesting things could have been explored with his war trauma saving both himself and the symbiote from his inner demons.
TheTrueLeafless that’s why it was a mistake to not incorporate Eddie’s cancer. The symbiote ate the cancer cells and Eddie needed the suit to live
Exactly, flash showed the symbiote how to be a hero and the symbiote found in flash a partner, they were the best versión Venom for sure
WHO THE FUCK KNOWS FLASH THOMPSON BESIDES YOU NICHE COMIC READERS
Who knows Eddie Brock then? Flash Thompson was a part of Spiderman as the jock who bullied Peter, but also admired Spiderman. And as depicted in this movie the Eddie Brock we got had little to do with any version we knew before anyway so they could have also went with Flash as he did not need a Spiderman necessarily to become a hero...only someone to show him an ideal he could aspire to.
Its a popcorn flick, you expected it to be like man of steel?
Not making it R made this movie for me meh. I liked venom tho in a movie. Villain was shit imo. I think that guy was trying to catch venom should have been main villain.
+ plus trailers made me not laugh when jokes showed up from trailer.
@Katsura ja nai, Zura da!
"Not making it R made this movie for me meh"
Because? Problem of that move isn't lack of gore. Like always movie itself need to justify use of gore and sex. Otherwise it is just bade exploitation instead bad popcorn movie.
"I liked venom tho in a movie"
So the thing what most people point out as main flaw? Venom is uncontrollable monster. He should not make a edgelord jokes. He should kill people! And that doesn't mean that Eddie Brock can't be antihero, but they should play him as early Bruce Banner. Basically after his ass was kicked by Peter (making it prequel is another stupid idea) he resign from his revenge, and just want go over it. But then some more evil people then him show up, and so he need fight both for own survival and redemption. That how you make antihero stories (look on MCU Punisher as example of well executed concept).
"I think that guy was trying to catch venom should have been main villain"
Agree on that part. Plus also that this movie also fail as comedy. But that was obvious after "turd on the wind" what was almost laughably unfunny as Martha.
Think about this though, if it was R rated half of the hero and venom fanbase wouldn't be able to watch it
@Haydn cooper
And from when it stop them from doing that? Yes, this move would profit from higher rating, if it would be good movie on the first place. Problem is that it is not. Fanboys like @Nyarlathotep forget that in comic his transition from monster trying force Spider-Man to be his host into still monstrous antihero, who still run from the law was a proces. But here they were so focused on forced comedy that they fail to establish anything.
@@TheRezro your opinion is way more valid than the first guy,who stayed on opinion based argument,however let's all agree spider-man homecoming was great
I love your non-nostalgia-critic reviews just as much! You really tackle issues in movies that feel off.
I enjoyed the hell out of it. Tom Hardy was great. I don't read the comics so perhaps I'm missing something as to why people didn't enjoy it. But Venom himself was awesome and Tom Hardy was very good. They banter between the two of them was funny and I hope we get to see more.
See Venom, even with Eddie, is a good guy and does care about its hosts but. That took YEARS in the comics. Eddie is a good guy NOW but even still he and Venom are struggling with it. I knew from the trailer they were going to try to just stuff years worth of development into a 2 hour movie and it's just, guys come on, you can't do that.
Youre damn right, in fact the symbiote cares more about flash than eddie
So they cant have a controversy later on?
@@mychaeljones7526 the point is they're supposed to be of two minds from the beginning. Like a conscious Bruce inside of Hulk. They meet on a mutual hate or type of maddening mimdset...but they have completely different ways in m imdset ofmhowmto handle it, and venom doesn't give a shit about life.
So...missing that DARK contrast is what takes people out. Who cares about later? The first movie...they fucked up.
Later will be like every other movie. People with conflicts and it gets resolved. Yadda yadda yadda.
But venom having been venom in the beginning...it would've been 100% pure bliss
The symbiote was good from the start, it was retconned as bad
They're not trying to do that. It's called "own interpretation". Watch the movie instead of judging based on a trailer. Cause you're wrong.
So its a Sony movie basically
Deus Umbra Yes but it’s better than what the critics say but it still not perfect.
The movie is good .. 7/10..i like tom hardy, he is fantastic in this.
Its bad
Jose Luis *5/10
Just watched the movie a few hours ago, it was entertaining. Just a few things to point out (basically to make the movie feel a little better, also, SPOILERS):
-The whole hosts thing is the conclusion the scientists come to, for all we know, the symbiotes just pretend to look for the right host so they get free food
-Venom possesses a dog after being separated from eddie, i feel that's why he suddenly likes humans (at least that's the explaination I was waiting for, better than "just because")
-I'm pretty sure Venom being rejected by his peers is also in the comics.
Side note, but at the begining of the movie, the mentioned something about Sibiu, which is Romania, but the spaceship crashed in Malaysia? Donno, maybe I was hearing/reading things, I'll wait till it comes on DVD and someone uploads it on UA-cam.
Finally, the following are sequential lines in the movie:
"Jump?"
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"Pussy."
No the dog thing is stupid. It would have been a worse explaination than nothing at all.
No I believe Venom is just taking parts of Eddie's personality: that's why he starts liking humans, that's why he really likes the woman.
There's no spoilers if I seen it to today
Venom being reject was retconed, he was to evil for the race
Sibu is in Sarawak, Malaysia bruh
+Akmal Fakhruddin ok, so THAT'S what they were talking about. There's only a one letter difference (Sibu vs Sibiu), which is why I got confused.
I LOVED the movie I don't see what's the problem?
Same here. Though, I do know that it's nothing like the original Venom in the comics (And yeah, I did first saw Venom in the animated Spider-Man TV Series. And like it.) and all that. But I find the film good, despite the flaws in the movie.
it is because you have low standarts. thats all
well i had high standarts and i kinda loved it.
@@thelastjedi3259 what?? Maybe you are fucking high
Revan 1313 Or maybe someone just has a different opinion than you? Hard to believe, I know.
I think he brings up a point that more people should be aware of. Just because Venom and Eddie Brock we’re good doesn’t mean it’s a good movie. A bad movie shouldn’t be rewarded and praised just because they got ONE part of the movie kind of right
depends on why you watch movies. if your watching for escape it's a good movie, if your watching to judge it's just like every other movie with good points and bad.
People watch every movie to escape. Same reason why people read books or play video games. That doesn’t mean it has the excuse of being bad overall. I don’t know about you but if I’m going to unwind after a long day and escape my stressful and mundane life with a superhero movie then I want the movie to be good. Because when you have these glaring flaws you are reminded it is a movie, it takes you out of the experience.
+Star Quest Action movies are like pizza. When they're good they're great and when they're not, they're still pretty good.
Star Quest Doesn't that defeat so bad it's good movies?
You know, if the movie had better writing, and possibly an R rating (given how violent Venom could be), maaaybe it would’ve had a chance to be good.
It is good it's not greater than expectations but it's good enough for those expectations. Even if a better script and vilence it wouldnt make it a better film. Black Panther was pg13 but that was good with brutal kills too. The problem with this is it was a R rated film that got cut for time not to make money or be lame. It had too much.
Doug, your hair is growing back!
Celticsorcerer 1 I'm surprised it took this long. I think he was starting to dig the Bruce Willis look.
Celticsorcerer 1 What kind of hair?
Not for long *pulls out flamethrower*
How can you see through his pants?
Dammit, I wanted to know the secret behind being permenatelt bald
Read “Lethal Protector”, the tone and character of Venom was more accurate than you think.
Also, the “Venom” rap is freaking awesome!
Is it bad that i liked this movie. I saw it with some friends and didn't find much wrong with it. CGI got a bit excessive but we had a good time
And yes, i acknowledge the plot holes but i kind of turned off my brain when going into this
i liked it too man but people find it offensive when a super hero is cheesy
I too went into this with a switched off brain.
All I wanted to see was Tom Hardy and Venom, some stupid jokes, a back and forth between them both, Venom kicking the shit out of some bad guys and a good film with Tom doing what he does best.
It's not supposed to be Citizen Kane, Jurassic Park or Terminator 2. You kind of know what to expect just going into it.
I liked Tom Hardy in this but the story was dumb. Hopefully they find a better plot for Venom 2
Please make a Doug Reviews playlist!
There you are! Get over here, i need ya for dragon master knight! XD
King of the Swamp there is one, it’s called nostalgia critic.
Yes! We need this.
search poly.
I mean...I’m a Venom/Spider-Man fan and I enjoyed this movie. Then again....I may have been blinded by the fact that I was actually in the theater watching a movie about Venom.
I'm so glad you brought up the editing problems. That really took me out the film and bothered me
13:55 actually Doug, I didn’t know this either but there are several different symbiotes that appear in the comics. Obviously we know and love Venom and Carnage. But there are others, namely Toxin, Anti-Venom, Scream, Hybrid, Phage, Agony, Lasher, Scorn, Mania and Riot. I had to look them all up cus I can't remember all the names either. I’ve also seen articles debating whether the two symbiotes that died were Phage and Scream.
Don't forget, Scorn, Raze, and Sleeper. Also I don't think scream died cause she bonded to the bunny and achieved perfect symbiosis, maybe she'll find a human host and help Venom fight Carnage in the sequel.
Appropriate shirt, Doug?
*OH NOOOOO!!!*
So the movie is enjoyable trash
Apparently😶
Looking at the IMDB and RottenTomato scores it seems either quite good or so crap it's good.
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RT scores aren't good or trustworthy. I have evidence as to why as well. Ask me for the evidence.
@@thegreatmonacage3782 no thank you
I'd say that's a fair assessment. I just checked RT, and the audience view that liked it is currently at 88%. That could change after this weekend though, so who knows.
Ok apparently you haven't read the origin. Venom's symbiote didn't look like how venom looks now it's an exaggeration of Spiderman's looked and Eddie Brock's character. Venom was an outcast on his planet because he wanted to mutually bond with their host and not dominate them. So he was imprisoned. So yeah he was like he said he was on his planet. When he bonded with Eddie he took his big frame made it bigger and crazier looking and multipled Brock's strength and mutal hate for Spiderman and that's how we have have venom.
Doug, I love your reviews but you're just sooo off on this one. I've been waiting for 22 years to see Venom on the big screen. Yes when I was 5 I fell in love with that awesome Anti-hero and followed most of his media.
And this adaptation is PERFECTLY adapted from Lethal Protector. Venom is an Anti-Hero who initially does try to do the right thing before descending into total madness. And Hell he eventually becomes more heroic later.
The following is spoiler free as I'm just going to use direct quotes from various critics.
After seeing the movie EVERY SINGLE CRITIC THAT SAID BAD THINGS IS WRONG!!! "It feels like it's from 2004"
What? I didn't get that at ALL!!! It had a very similar feel as Spider-man Homecoming!! Mix of drama and humor.
"Everyone is treating the movie like it's serious except for Tom Hardy" Umm he's EDDIE FREAKING BROCK AS VENOM! HAVE YOU READ A COMIC WITH VENOM!!!!???? HE'S A DARK HUMOR MACHINE!!!!! IT'S KINDA HIS THING
"Eddie Brock is an unlikable, arrogant character." Ummm. Huh? Compared to his original form this Eddie is straight up a stand up guy. So because he's trying to bring down a terrible person he's unlikable? WHAT? "This movie doesn't know what it wants to be" Again, Venom is a dark humor person. HE EATS PEOPLE. Duh, it's gonna be a mix of drama and humor.
"Eddie makes out with Venom. That's not something anyone needed to see" Ever hear of She-Venom aka Bride of Venom? Anne did get the symbiote briefly. In this movie Venom was trying to do Eddie a solid and try and bring them back together. "This movie is proof that not every marvel character needs it's own movie" Just fuck off. You clearly have no idea about how Venom works. "Spider-man 3's Venom set a bar so low I didn't think anything could be worse. I was wrong" This Venom DESTROYS 3's Venom. This one actually says we, kills bad guys, EATS PEOPLE, and forms an actual BOND WITH EDDIE!
Bottom line, this movie is freaking awesome! While I do think an R rating would have done it a little better just because there should have been a bit of blood and gore. I mean Venom EATS people. But that's a minor thing and for PG-13 it worked. Just like Infinity War or Cap Civil War. You can have extreme violence without the gore so I will let that go.
GO SEE VENOM!!!! FUCK THE IMBECILIC CRITICS THAT CLEARLY HAVE NEVER READ A VENOM COMIC IN THEIR LIFE!!! Rotten Tomatoes shows that only 31% critics liked it but AUDIENCES HAVE IT AT 88%! GO SEE THIS MOVIE!!!!!!!!! HELP US GET OUR SEQUEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE DESERVE IT!!!!!!!!!!
WE ARE VENOM
No it sucks period
lay off the butthash; 'cut that bitch off'
genemaxwell4 genemaxwell4 genemaxwell4 There is so much wrong with this comment. First off, people are saying Eddie was too comedic, because it went against the tone. It felt like he was coming from a Jim Carrey movie into what was supposed to be serious. You can have comedy, but it needs to actually be woven in and not feel so out of place.
3 is way better than this, because Topher Grace had an actual personality. Just because it’s more comic accurate doesn’t mean it’s good. Especially since 3 had better cgi, Topher Grace Venom has a better motivation, and is just more memorable.
And no, this movie doesn’t know what it wants to be. does it want to be over the top silly comedy or dark angst? You can’t be both, and it’s not the kind of dark humor this movie needs. Homecoming worked, because the drama and humor went hand in hand rather than feeling awkwardly crowbarred in with each other.
And what bond does he form with Eddie? There’s never a moment where they actually connect. Venom just keeps telling him to go to different places, then all of a sudden says, “Changed my mind. I’m gonna protect earth. Because of our friendship” WHAT FRIENDSHIP?!! They never formed any bond whatsoever.
So, no. Don’t go see this movie. Critics actually studied up on film and proper filmmaking, and know this film is bad. Just because it crammed a bunch of comic references down our throat doesn’t mean it‘s a good movie. It’s poorly written, terribly edited, has mediocre acting and boasts some truly terrible special effects, chock full of forgettable characters, and a tone wavering between stupid Adam Sandler comedy and early 2000’s angst film.
he doesnt even know who eminem is
I hope you’re not trying to convince yourself it was a good film like I did when I saw the amazing Spiderman 2 The movie was pretty and Eppley made and felt like a disaster production rush in the background and Doug is 100% Eye-catching perfect on the logical fallacies riddled with holes in the movie. It honestly was as bad as Catwoman when you think of it
I wonder if eddies life sucks in the movie too like it does in the comics (haven’t seen it yet)
Donny danger He messes up his life and career early on in the film.
But it was etirely hs fault, in a really stupid way.
Jeggson Vohees but was it as bad as the comics
Donny danger much like the comics.
Donny danger Pretty much. He can't find work as a reporter, and is reduced to looking at ads for a dishwasher position. Lives in a ratty apartment, no froends, no girl.
@Channel Awesome I think your thinking of the wrong perspective of Venom from this movie Nostalgia Critic, have you ever read Modern Eddie Brock Venom Comics and Flash Thompson Agent Venom Comics, yea, the movie is a bit more like a mesh of those two, with little sprinkles of killing that make it a call back to villainous Venom, this Venom in the movie is not traditional, but it is a mix between Modern Eddie Brock and Traditional Venom, I just hope you realize that because this version makes him more open in not only comic adaptations, but also film adaptations too, and maybe we will one day see Eddie Brock mentor Flash Thompson and also potentially have Venom and Spider-Man team up with little to no intensity between each other other than just Spider-Man disliking symbiotes a little bit, Just thought I'd share my point of view with you about your review with this movie, you may not like this venom movie, but I do, and we can agree to disagree, but all in all, I respect your opinion, and I hope your see this comment and respect my opinion too, and maybe possibly respond to it too, I'll see ya later Nostalgia Critic :)
Seriously. Everyone forgers....he can't be on a road to redemtion..,if he doesn't feel he needs it. So...WHY does he need it?
That's what most wanted to see
I think it’s important to remember that this movie takes way more inspiration from Venom’s solo comics than it does from the Spider-Man comics. Particularly his ‘Lethal Protector’ run. And those comics could get pretty silly and campy when they wanted to.
I want a NC review of this movie starring the Channel Awesome staff, with Malcolm as the main character.
I loved the movie, I don't know squat about Venom other than the cartoon and the games, and it was super enjoyable, and FAST. The hour and a half run time was perfect.
it felt like only half an hour, I also loved the movie.
I enjoyed the movie, and I own the Lethal Protector comic series. Pg 13 doesnt bother me. Cant put spider man into a rated R movie or all the kiddos cant see it. Tom Hardy is always great. Blu-ray buy fo sho.
I agree. Most comics from back in the day when Venom was created were pg-13 at their highest.
Definitely a blu ray purchase. Especially with the rated R cut.
Venom should've been R.
Then once it's established of his power and danger. And ruthlessness when in a fight....you get that sense...
Put him with s piderman and make that pg13...but we still have that sense of why Spidey sees danger. The history is there and we witnessed it.
Or not R....just not pg13
really.. Logan and Deathpool did it.. and they are a massive success. This Venom has noting to do with Spiderman anyway so there is not a reason why this movie shouldn't be R rated
I want to go see this just to get the whole "snakes on a plane" experience. One of those, "you walk in, knowing it's likely going to be bad, but want to make fun of it anyway," sort of deals.
I absolutely love that you have a gonzo art book on your shelf
Somehow an early 2000's superhero movie time-jumped into the post-MCU/Arrowverse world. Let's just put it in the corner with Daredevil and Ang Lee's Hulk
Considering that this movie has been in production since like 2005 based off of a pitch that Avi Arad made in the mid-nineties to adapt an eighties edgelord villain, it really shouldn't be too surprising that it epitomizes all of the nonsense comic book movies have spent the last decade eschewing.
Fox: Honestly dont agree with that. Since early 2000 movies usually spat on the character/characters they are trying to represent. (Dare devil, catwoman)
This does have Venom act as Venom, and Eddie Brock act as Eddie Brock. They shouldnt have made it pg13, since i sure the extra 45 mins missing wouldve elevated this to Deadpool lvls. So hoping this does do well and gets a sequel
Actually I think Catwoman (having no involvement with Batman) is the more apt comparison
FIne. But the sequel has to be rated R, because I have 0 idea how they would handle someone like Carnage in a PG-13 film.
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I doubt we'll get a sequel tbh
Venom has Spiderman's powers completely so he has Spidey senses. But they didn't explain how he has any of Peter Parker's ability at all. Matter of fact he shouldn't look like venom at all because venom is based off Spiderman. So that's a huge plot hole. Unless secret wars happened and the symbiote broke away from Peter in space before he got back..
The reason why they don't explain why he has Spiderman powers is because Venom DOESN'T have Spiderman powers!
Did you see him slinging web or have a spider symbol on his chest? He doesn't even have spider-sense, he get's caught off guard multiple times and everything else can easily be explained by his heightened senses.
@@rikowolfin4984 just because he doesn't have Spiderman's spider symbol or webbing doesn't mean that wasn't the comic venom..for one his name wouldn't be venom in the first place without his and brocks mutual hate of Peter Parker. That's one. Two venom is an exaggeration of how Spiderman looks. His eyes being the main thing. Three he did use his spidey sense in the apartment fight before they came in.
They changed it so Venom's name is actually his Alien name, the eyes are just normal alien eyes so no need to act like they could only have possibly be from Spider-mans suit. Venom is sensitive to sound and smell, it would have been easy for him to tell people were coming up to the apartment and considering that his reaction times are also faster it would have been easy for Venom to take down a small group of men in a small room.
Later on with the police he gets hit by explosives and flash bangs constantly with out knowing where they are coming from, there is nothing saying that he has Spider-sense at all other than you assuming that he does.
mind s Except he got those powers after bonding with Spiderman...which didn’t happen in the movie. He didn’t have Spiderman in the movie, so he couldn’t have spider sense to obtain by bonding with him.
@@cartoonnetworkdisneyxdsupe6864 used senses those guys outside the apartment. Felt like spidey senses to me. But forget all of that. Venom wouldn't be called venom without Spiderman or he wouldn't look like he does at all regardless what they kept out.
How do you make these reviews? like do you write everything down while you're watching a movie but if you seen it in the movie theater when it be too dark?
I find it really frustrating that when movies like this just say "there's a right type of host these things can live in for a long time", people complain that it's not explained. But when they take the time to really explain shit, people say that there's too much exposition. No matter how this movie tackled the subject, people would still take a stab at it with one of these two.
Action movie? I thought it was romance :p Yeah one of the authors said that Venom (at least in the comic) was a romance ^^; sorry to break it to y'all!
I honestly don't understand what Doug is talking about. The motivations were completely understandable, aliens want to conquer earth, bad guy thinks aliens are the future. Also the CG was pretty good, it doesn't look as dumb as Doug says.
Alex K Ok. But why does Venom turn on a dime to helping Eddie save the Earth out of nowhere? All he did was tell Eddie to go to different places. Then he just says, “I want to save the earth.” Uh no. You can’t just jump into an out of nowhere motivation without any sense of buildup or thought. That’s just bad writing. And considering Spider-Man 3 from 2007 had better looking Venom effects than this, yeah, this movie had really poor cgi.
Cartoon Network/Disney XD Superheroes the reason venom wants to save the earth with Eddie is because venom is a loser, if the klyntar (venoms race) comes to earth, takes it over then venom will be back to his shameful life. But if it doesn’t happen then venom and Eddie can do what ever they want.
yup, motivation was very clear. it's basic alien likes earth story, mixed with - new place new start, don't bring my old buddies here please and Eddie... let me be with you Eddie, and our new love that is Anne (she will love us again Eddie)
Connor Treweeke Ok. How is he a loser? Physically? I guess, but we only see him fight Riot, and even then the justification for that could be Riot is the leader and stronger than Venom naturally. And if it’s personality wise, Venom and Riot act identical to each other. With the same transformers dialogue and big scratchy voices. They’re so poorly defined that I can’t tell what makes Venom a loser. And again, we’re not shown anything prior to this that indicates Venom is a loser. The basic rule of film is “show, don’t tell”. Venom uses the “tell, don’t show” rule, and it never seems like they made what they’re showing match up with what they’re telling.
@@cartoonnetworkdisneyxdsupe6864 you know that it doesn't really matter if he is or is not a looser? that from a character we were shown, he might just use it as an excuse to not sound sappy, bc sappy is not cool, and he has new friend and he want to be cool and edgy X"D
but if you want to know, how is venom a looser? bc he cares. Riot and others don't care about their hosts, change them like gloves, but venom not only make sure he don't eat Eddie from the inside, he also fix his body and cares in his weird way about Eddie... and that might be a big no no on his home planet, make him slower and so on ;pp
For being "fans" of the source material, its surprising how many people have no problem with Venom existing in a spiermanless universe. The symbiotes fusion with spidey is why his eyes look like that, and why he cracks jokes. Without spidey's influence, a lot of the characters details make no sense.
14:46 One of the many reasons why me and my family really liked this movie. The beginning took place in my home country.
I know it’s stupid to say the comics justify the weird actions of a character, but... the reason Eddie’s Symbiote sticks around is because Eddie has cancer. Cancer cells are next-level Symbiote food.
Jack Casey They never mention that in the movie though.
Can you do the hills have eyes movies the original and the remake please that will be awsome i love your videos
I will now forever hear Venom speaking in a Cookie Monster voice
I like how Tamera framed it as a Rom-Com between Eddie and Venom. Makes the movie SO much better.
This movie could have worked. Venom on his own could have worked. If it was a horror/him going after those who wronged him... That would have been so awesome... Instead we got a real big mess
Would have been better as a sci fi horror yeah.
I actually agree on that idea that he goes after those who wronged him as Eddie Brock where he tries his best to get back to a journalist position without cutting corners but still self suffering Venom comes and he kills of Cephus Jones character the editor so no continuity issues with him as Eddie Fish, he attacks Anne bf, and kills of the guards and one cop. But Eddie convinces Venom to control his anger (I believe the meditation scene mentioned shouldve been played up more ala Hulk/Banner) and so they become good because of Eddie.
Remember when the symbiote put Eddie in a coma and was using him as a puppet or when he was using spider-man body while he slept...
or how all host get addicted to the symbiote after long time exposure to it...
Such a nice creature :3
I mean, Venom's personality gets affected by every host it bonds with. The reason it's so crazy is because it was bonded with an alien serial killer for, like, twenty years, then was bonded with Deadpool for a few seconds and got to experience the horrors of Wade's mind before it even met Spider-Man.
No mention of the second post-credits scene? That blew me away, I didn't expect that at all.
First thing I saw was a Wing Commander ad... Nothing else in this video will be as nostalgic as that.
Hey Doug is that a Mr Bill shirt?
Oh noooooo
I was just hoping that Eddie would see Spider-Man on the News and use him as example for helping people. Then Venom have like his style then form the White spider logo
TheGrimStride Given some possible hints they put 8n the film, maybe he'll get the symbol from Knoll instead. That would keep him separate from spiderman, and have a deeper connection to Venom new mythos.
Please PLEASE DO A NOSTALGIC CRITIC EPISODE ON THIS!!!!
Awesome video as always I watched your channel for 4 years now
Hey Doug, no, riot has been around for a long time. It is part of the symbiot family, with the life foundation and the children of venom and carnage. It’s a whole story arc, with riot, scream, venom, carnage, toxin, the skipper and Marianne 🤣🤣
It’s around the anti venom symbiot era.
I guess they decided to skip all of venom’s history. Just wait, they just introduced how the klyntar race started in the comics. That’s a whole new story.
That venom purse dog would have made the whole movie 🐶🐶🤣🤣🤣
I hate the fact that Sony said they were not gonna blend the two. Venom is gonna be a separate entity and not merge with Spider-Man. Boy, Sony is really fucking up!
They have to hand all of them back to marvel.
Sony is always fucking up.
Sean Ashmead Very True! *sigh *.
Basically, they are saying, stay home and read comics 🤣
It is hilarious to think Toxic could ever even have a shot at fighting Venom solo when Venom fought all 4 Life Foundation symbiotes easily.
Weaver what's so bad about venom without spider man? I think venom was great without spider man.
@@MorCainz well Toxin is said to be the strongest symbiote by far, he's the 1000th symbiote in venom's line.
It sounds like the "Venom" movie should have been a comedy movie...
Superchocolatemilkshake Webleems Oh it was, trust me. A fun one, too!
My dad and I thought so too
So according to the rotten tomatoes scores, "Venom" currently sits at 31% so that basically means it's better than both the 2005 and 2015 "Fantastic Four" films but that means it's worse than "Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer" and "Daredevil".
Venom is rarely a straight up villain. I like seeing him as the lethal protector.
Venom ads are more annoying
Akmal Fakhruddin no they not
@@kalebxp1235 unskippable ads are good?
Yes if it’s a good movie
@@kalebxp1235 I'm done, this boy just said unskippable ads are good
@@akmalfakhruddin7285 if the ads are more than 15 seconds and unskippable then they can be annoying, just like any ad
Hahaha...oh.
That's *so* Venom!
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End me.
Comic book series starring venom doesn’t show or mention Spider-Man: people are silent.
Venom movie comes out and says Spider-Man will not be in it: people freak the fuck out and say it’s not staying true to the comics.
I guess only Disney is allowed to do that sort of thing right?
I'm halfway through the movie for the first time and watching bits of this review at the same time. So far the Movie is funny, scary and badass.
the only good spider man this year is the ps4
MrX infinity war?
...And hopefully the animated film.
You forgot Infinity War, mate...
Hopefully the Spiderverse will also be good, at least it looks great.
I haven't seen infinity war but I would argue it's not a spider-Man thing. It's more like he's in it. When I think Spider-Man I think it should focus on him and his villains and problems. Infinity war focus on the avengers and the other teams that join them. So yeah I agree Spider-Man ps4 is the best this year. Hell I'd argue best in the decade, aside from the comics but I have a hard time trying to read those.
Subbed years ago appreciating your thought-out, well rounded reviews. This is the most ignorant critique you’ve ever done.
Ed Ruchalski II Why? Because he saw the movie was garbage? It was horribly written, terribly edited, filled with atrocious dialogue exchanges, bad cgi, and a tone wavering between goofy comedy and angsty horror film.
Cartoon Network/Disney XD Superheroes no it wasn’t lol
How was he ignorant? It’s not like he was trying to say “MOVIE IS TERRIBLE DONT WATCH” he’s just a critic giving his honest review
N. A. C. Excellent response. Didn’t provide any evidence, or backing or any sense of a strong argument. You just said, “No it’s not!”. Brilliant.
"I'm really sorry about Venom." - an apology from the screen writers
My friends and I all went to see it and one thing we were all confused about was the Wilhelm scream mid movie. It was so out of place that we all turned to look at each other like “Did you hear that too?” It was the perfect example of the struggle between dark action film and light hearted super hero comedy this film was trying to present.
I desperately hope marvel can buy back the rights of these characters from Sony. Sony doesn't know how to do superhero movie. Just let it go.
Unfortunately, that's not going to happen anytime soon.
I feel like what they should have done was to have Eddie wanting revenge on the life foundation for making his life shit and Eddie would take them down with Venom. But also being unaware that they made the world benefit from their actions. like riot possess the leader and mentally broke him down and riot wants to turn earth were symbiotes rule. though that is what I wanted not sure everybody else does.
Also I give the movie a 6.5/10
Hey, Doug. Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet. But when you talked about possibly not seeing Tom Hardy in the right thing to feel for him, my brain immediately went to the film Locke. Don’t know if you’ve seen it, but it is my favorite Hardy performance. It’s reminiscent of Ryan Reynolds in Buried. Hardy’s kinda the only person on screen, but it’s crazily captivating for something that scaled down. I’d recommend that one if you missed it. (And I’m 90% sure it’s on Netflix.)
"He's got shit you have never seen." Venoms best line.