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You know, the rivalry between Magneto and Professor X in this movie feels surprisingly more genuine in a weird way when you consider that they're played by actors who have one of the most infamous celebrity bromances in history
And this was the first movie in which they worked together. Before this, Patrick Stewart was always a REALLY big fan of Sir Ian Mckellen (from what I heard). After this though the two became of best friends XD. Their relationship to this day is so pure XD
@Goddess 18 maybe for Hugh Jackman. but Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen theyve both had amazing careers before the xmen movies. not just through Theater but through other movies and tv shows.
Best audience moment watching the film in theatres back in 2000: some woman obviously unfamiliar with the source material yells out "Holy S***!" when Logan pops his claws for the first time.
Yes that's one of my fav parts in the movie is hearing his voice. I also heard the voice actor of Magneto was offered the role of Magneto in the movie.
@Heniz Oofenshmirtz Considering Magneto's magnetic abilities was strong enough to easily overpower wolverine whom sabre-tooth struggles to defeat, and catch the crashing x-men jet in X-2 I don't think even saber-tooth could have pulled the helmet off against Magneto's will and attempting such would only result in the police getting shot immediately.
Also, if Magneto's power is enough to keep the helmet in place, I am pretty sure Sabretooth would have ripped his head right off in the attempt. Probably something Charles wasn't a big fan of.
Here’s the thing with Rogue: every picture you showed of her, every description of her personality was of her AFTER she absorbed Ms. Marvel’s psyche and Kree powers. It’s easy to be confident and spew one-liners when you have super strength, flight, near invulnerability and someone else’s mind.
What about Evolution Rogue? She still managed to be both badass and vulnerable at the same time in the right ways. She's probably my favourite adaption of Rogue, although I admit to having not read the comics so not sure how faithful she is.
@@Mcyxof She was. Rogue really doesn't need the Ms Marvel powers to be cool. These movies really just made her a combo of all of Logan's kid sidekicks (Jubilee, Shadowcat).
Yeah, if you think the nostalgia critic is actually good at research or writing you hoping for too much. He makes these kinds of mistakes all the time. Also, you can tell he is a giant control freak.
Something I always wondered is why rogue isn't one of the most powerful of all marvel characters. Sure she has to absorb a person's power to near death to get it permanently but she can also get it for a temporary amount of time. In theory she could absorb the combined powers of every single one of the X-Men and several other characters become the most powerful being in all of marvel
Is no one going to address the fact that rouge can only fly because she stole the powers from Ms. Marvel so this is a GOOD portrayal of a younger rouge.
Yeah, that's how I always considered it. She just learned she can kill someone just by touching for a few seconds, anyone would suddenly be scared and timid!
Yeah, my impression (after I got over the annoyance) was that hey, this was probably what she was like in the comics before I got into them -- well before the 90's cartoon that I grew up on, or the established relationships of the comics that were coming out at the time. I mean, the original group of the X-Men was a far different cry from the group that I got started with... I think they had, what, Beast and Angel, but none of the regular girls except for Jean Grey? And certainly no Wolverine back then. I thought this was going to be good because they would segue from the early Rogue into a more confident, competent one over time -- I also expected a similar thing with Nightcrawler, my favorite swashbuckling blue elf. Neither came to fruition, but that was why I was able to accept the original bit, which seemed to be establishing the "before" part of the "Before and After" transformation. Hell, why did Mystique, of all people, get more of a character arc in the movies than Rogue, Storm, or Cyclops? Also, the switch of relationships isn't such a bad thing; Rogue's had more than just Gambit over the years (even though I certainly was disappointed by that lost potential), and other characters have swapped relationships here and there. Heck, Rogue even got together with Magneto!
If they gave her the extra powers in this version, that wouldn't be comic accurate either (because they don't have the rights to Ms. Marvel) and I am sure a lot of people who never saw the cartoon version would say she was overpowered if she had Carol Danvers's powers AND could absorb other everyone else's powers via touch
Yeah that Sabertooth Wolverine rivalry could’ve been better, but X and Magneto’s is infinitely more important. If I could only have one to focus on in this movie, it’s theirs.
Hugh Jackman was the best Wolverine in the X-men film franchise and he still is. When I first saw this movie, I fell in love with it right away. Ian Mckellen as Magneto and Patrick Steward as Professor X, hell Yeah! I love the moment that Logan and Rouge had in that train scene, Logan tries to be a good brother/father figure for her and it works perfectly.
You missed my favorite line in the movie. There is a scene in the statue of liberty were Cyclops holds Wolverine at arm's length because he isnt sure if its mystique or not. When Cyclops asked him to prove his identity Wolverine calls him a dick. Cyclops concedes the argument and just says yeah OK
For me it's "A Bolt of lightning into a huge copper conducter… I thought you lived in a school?" that's my favourite line, but then I did think Cyclops was an utter tool even when I first saw this movie so...
@@MamaMOB (I know this was a year ago, but...) Being a critic doesn't mean "being critical". It means being able to look at something critically (i.e. with minimal personal subjective bias and examining objectively what works and what doesn't and why that is). There is literally nothing to stop a critic from spending an entire review just saying nice stuff about stuff if they feel it's deserved (and can explain why), and plenty have critics have done exactly that multiple times. NC was even originally created as a parody of overly critical and nitpicky critics who were seemingly unable to see any amount of good in anything and Doug Walker even seems to hold a certain level of personal contempt for those kinds of people - he created a character literally called "Douchey McNitpick" just to prove that point. Greybeard's point was a perfectly valid one to make. The fact is that X-Men was one of two comic book movies of the early 21st century (Spider-Man being the other) that almost single-handedly gave comic book movies back their credibility after an entire decade of being treated with contempt both by the industry and audiences, and one of the reasons why is that X-Men took its subject matter and the portrayal of said subject matter seriously and didn't "camp it up". It's fairly safe to say that without X-Men and its positive reception by audiences at the time, we would not have the MCU as it exists today. Is it a perfect movie? Definitely not, but it certainly had a huge impact which needs to be taken into account now when looking back on it.
Which would make sense, the fact she can transform may possibly allow her to change so that she just like... Doesn't have the wound, hell, she can change into animals,
Tell about me it. I still remember going to see South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut that previous summer in 1999, then seeing X-men that next following summer in July 2000 I believe. Never did I think both of those would be feature films because South Park was still new at the time and only two years old and DC were really the main guys putting comic book films out in theaters.
Yeah, Wolverine has a string of relationships with characters like that. They could've used any one of the existing characters, but of course they'd have to shift the plot to focus on a different power. Jubilee got badass, by the way. Eventually. And I've always loved Kitty, who's been through more than most of the other characters I know, including that she got trained by ninjas and can slip out of her clothes while hanging upside down. Or something like that. I have quite a few comics but not in order, so I get her history in bits and pieces ^_^
Jubilee is my favorite X-Man and favorite Marvel girl overall I pray that she FINALLY becomes a main cast member when the MCU reboot arrives Jubs deserves her due
NO. PLEASE. That would be pointless,, different time, different directions. Please review Island of dr. Moureau. Marlon Brando is soooo high in that film.
@@ivanvoronov3871: Especially an Old VS New - as there is a remake, maybe a mini-series I think. Saw it a long time ago... and can't really tell if the remake was horrible or passable.
Fun fact: there was supposed to be a running gag where Toad would constantly brag about himself in the third person throughout the movie, however the only remnant of the joke was Storm saying "Do you know what happens when a toad gets stuck by lightning?"
Modern Rogue doesn't fly. Most portrayals of her don't have her flying because it involves a bunch of stuff with Ms. Marvel and it eventually gets reversed anyway.
Modern Rogue flys plenty. After she lost the Ms. Marvel powers she gained Sunfire's and then later Wonder Man's. Between those, was her having access to every power she's ever had, death touch which didn't last long, and then absolute control of her powers.
@@LupineShadowOmega I'll admit that I did not know that. But I do still feel like it isn't as major a part of her character as this video makes it out to be.
@@TippytoeZombie depends on what era of Rogue you're talking about. Him being a 90s kid, Jim Lee Rogue is the one in his head. I know plenty of people whom that's their favorite version, same with Xtreme X-Men Rogue where she was rocking the remembering past powers and had the red costume. For me my favorite has always been post Super Novas because for me I enjoyed Rogue sort of struggling with her basic powerset and kind of being an underdog. That's closer to movie Rogue, but even then Malcom's character has a point. She still didn't take any shit. In fact she was leading one of the most dangerous X-teams we're probably ever had with Sabretooth, Mystique, Omega Sentinel, and Lady Mastermind all on the team. And she made it pretty clear that she'd put her foot in the first person to get out of line.
i dont think the powers are the problem, i think its the fact that movie Rougue is a victim of her powers for 3 movies while comics/cartoon rougue started as a victim but later became a badass who learned to live with it.
@@marcinbudzinski9347 Spider-Man was born out of this too. Technically, every Marvel movie after this owes a lot to X-Men. This could've killed the superhero genre for a long time.
that's like saying "but the budget was low" outside issues aren't not an excuse we are judgeing the art based on it's marets as art not on if it can sell ...ext
@@madcap3450 just cause it helped created something else that was great that doesn't make it a good thing otherwise people will go out of their way to commit mistakes like stealing and murder so they can learn the real meaning if freidnship and jail sentences
eh, I'm sure in 20 years or so they will start remaking super hero movies and find a good replacement for him, but people will bitch that it was better in the past out of nostalgia.
@@plutarcouranus4200 Nostalgia Critic is funny but he is terrible at accuracy. He compared Teen Titans Go to Spongebob of all things. Yes compare the parody driven saterical show to the light-hearted surreal show. Honestly Family Guy would have made more sense because of the constant references and fourth wall jokes. And that whole list of things he got wrong.
@@plutarcouranus4200 Almost everyone I know complained about Rouge not flying in this movie. I don't understand why this entire comment section is pretending he's the first to speak out about it. And Malcom makes a great point that they could've just changed it for the movies.
Well to be fair the flying, bad ass rogue was only after she got touchy feely with ms marvel....... and Disney did get the x men back and we just got ms marvel.....
I remember growing up loving this and X-men Evolution more than the 90s Cartoon, Idk what it was I liked the 90s cartoon but I wasnt obsessed with it like the 90s Spider-man series and even though it has some flaws This movie is still one of my fav Non MCU films tbh
@shihoblade I agree with you. I don’t like the way how they say it’s not rouge when in all reality it is her. But it’s probaly not the rouge they remember
>some military will get there >same military who currently has no means to fight magneto, ergo are using metal weapons >magneto is the master of magnetism I mean, common critic, this one wasnt so hard to figure it out, right?
This irritated me for the whole review too. You can't really crap on the movie for not being faithful when they were faithfully adapting Rogue, just from a different point in her life than the one shown in the cartoon where all of Doug's X-Men knowledge comes from.
Magneto could probably make all those guns fire before Xavier could use Sabretooth to take his helmet off. Magneto wouldn't lose any sleep over a bunch of dead humans but Xavier would.
Also Doug says that Sabertooth should be going after Wolverine instead of Storm but why would Magneto go after storm when he has a significantly bigger advantange fighting wolverine due to his body being made of metal. Not to mention storm would have the advantage over magneto due to her lightning against his metal. I get that it would be better for the rivalry between wolverine and sabertooth but i guarentee if it happened like that he would be bitching about that plothole and say that sabertooth should have went after storm while magneto went after wolverine.
@@GantzIsSloppy : I got the impression that BOTH of these guys' X-Men knowledge prior to the first movie came entirely from the Saturday morning cartoon.
A series that started out very strong X-Men (2000) Continues its upper trajectory X2 (2003) With bumps on the road X-Men: The Last Stand (2006) (i admit that the bridge scene was fantastic) X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009) But with a regenerating reboot, everything comes back on track X-Men: First Class (2011) Even with bump on the road number 3 The Wolverine (2013) He continued strong, with a very funny Merc With A Mouth X-Men: Days Of Future Past (2014) Deadpool (2016) But he was very old, and so he passed his greatest legacy to the new generation Logan (2017) Meanwhile, his funny friend went to join a higher standard (Marvel Studios) Deadpool 2 (2018) But the old franchise, realized that he made a very very VERY BAD MISTAKE! and thought “I passed my legacy to this?!?!? I died in vain!😭” X-Men: Apocalypse (2016) X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019)
Nostalgia Critic: Why don't you use Sabretooth you are controlling at the moment to take his helmet off so you can read/control his mind? Good idea, BUT the problem is that Magneto himself is ALREADY a 'magnet': no matter how hard you try to pull the helmet off (it's made of metal), it will not budge and remain that way as long as he's conscious and/or aware of his surroundings.
Glen Wang It doesn’t really matter as no super hero comic or movie will ever survive nitpicking ... mainly because they are all entirely based on „what is physics, never heard of it“ logic.
This movie was actually faithful to the ORIGINAL Rogue, before she stole Captain Marvel's powers. Remember, flight and super strength only came after she absorbed, and almost killed Carol Danver's aka Captain Marvel and at the time, thought to have permanently stolen her power set.
Yea..but what we WANTED was a movie with Rogue..the bitch that ALREADY flies and punches shit. Not some teen who needs to grow up then LATER come in contact with some other lady YEARS later, then she gets to fly. So..they shouldve brought in Rogue, the flyer. Not Rogue the cryer. Not even us true fans would've cared if she had already had the powers. We actually cared that she didn't. It's really only in today's UA-cam days that people try to get super picky and super "historically" correct on details regarding comics. They couldve created a storyline where she already had the flight and power, then went through some stupid flashback of her meeting some lady and taking them. I'm which Professor X must help her control. Also..Gambit. Or she couldve had flight and power from someone else..kinda semi permanent..until some later time when she meets Marvel. We really didn't care. We wanted the true rogue or close to it. And later we just accepted it as a bust. Stayed true to at least cyclops..somewhat and wolverine...
@@agonleed3841 I agree to an extent but looking back you have to remember that superhero movies were barely a thing yet and their budgets and styles reflected that. This movie was a grounded version of X-Men with much less of the insane colorful creativity from the comics. Comics people accepted it at the time but as time went on and better superhero movies came out we viewed this little movie (still a ground breaker for sure) with less favor than what came after. So it truly would have been smart to lead up to a flying rogue somewhere down the line once general audiences settled in to the genre. Because I am fairly certain that if they had gone that route on this movie with a flying, super strong Rogue she would have been rendered in bad early 2000's CGI which would NOT have done her justice. Am I making sense? I just finished a long shift at work I hope my point is getting across.
@@nikolasbryant4235 I honestly found Evolution's treatment of her power kit to be far more interesting than her just being given Carol Danvers powers. Her absorption mutating into a boiling pot of all the powers she has previously taken and the toll it took on her psyche was far more creative than only giving her another character's gimmick overlapping her original one.
Except all of Rogue's non-absorption powers aren't hers, they're the Carrol Danvers Mrs Marvel, which was adapted into the Animated series you reviewed just last week
What happens to a toad when it's struck by lightning? It croaks. Comic book one liner was right there and they didn't do it. But I learned from this review. Awesome.
To be fair, the line falls flat because all of the build up to the joke was cut from the film. Toad was supposed to have this catch phrase "Do you know what happens to a Toad when..." throughout the film, that'd be used to subtly explain his powers, so by the end of the film, when it's used against him in his final scene it'd have more payoff. But instead it just felt like a dumb wrongly said one liner.
Rogue didn't even HAVE the flying and strength powers until she (semi-)permanently absorbed them from Carol Danvers/Ms. Marvel (now Captain Marvel). So it makes sense that she wouldn't have those abilities yet. Unless she absorbed them from SOME OTHER random mutant. And even then, she's occasionally not had them anymore over the decades (long story). That said, yeah, even at the time, I wasn't SUPER impressed by this movie (was definitely not-so-patiently waiting for Gambit and Nightcrawler to make their debuts).
Yes, not to mention that they refer a lot to specifically to rouge how she was portrayed in the cartoon, and while i did like that version of her, i felt like she relied WAY too much on the flight and strength; her absorption was just something she avoided using at all costs which made it less of a factor. I actually found later incarnations of her to be much more compelling where she did not have the ms-marvel super power set which allowed her own powers to stay at the forefront of her character. I think x-men evolution in particular took it into some very interesting directions
@@MonteCreations I agree the older cartoon made her rely on flight and strength a lot, to little kid me she was more like a female Superman than anything. Fun fact, in the Latin American dub Rogue was renamed Titania (for whatever reason), but for Evolution she was named Rogue again, so to me they were pretty much two completely different people.
Too be honest, I miss Rebecca Romijn's Mystique. She gave a balance of sex appeal and mysterious and didn't talk too much like J-Law's Mystique . Also, this Mystique is very loyal to Magneto.
Someone also pointed out that Magneto controls metal... like his helmet. Trying to take it off would not work ESPECIALLY since its been proven in this film that this is the first time Charles has ever dealt with this helmet (before the prequels came out and retconned EVERYTHING.)
One part of the movie Doug misunderstood: Wolverine already knew for certain that was mystique and not storm because mystique can't change how she smells. So that wasn't just a lucky guess, Wolvie's power counters shapeshifters. This was actually a major plot point during the skrull invasion event in the comics.
To be honest, now I want to see Nostalgia Critic review X-men 2, just so I can hear him freak out over that awesome White House sequence. My goodness, I replayed that scene so many times.
so.... who's mutant power is faster? Xavier using Sabertooth to either punch or rip off Magnetos helmet, or Magneto pulling all the triggers. Magneto had the upper hand and could pull the trigger in a split seconds notice. Xavier did the right thing.
@@knight0fdragon Xavier caught Magneto off guard when he took over Sabretooth but stupidly wasted time talking to him instead of just having Sabretooth punch Magneto.
Schlock Jocks magneto was caught off guard because sabertooth did not make a sudden move, the hand came slowly from out of sight. A fast move would have Magneto acting aggressively quickly. Either with the fire arms or the the grenades. Xavier can it read Magnetos mind, so is unable to predict his move. This is chess, not checkers, which was the entire point of the first movie.
I almost choked on my water when the guy is like "Oh! So she meets Gambit?" LOL! That was a very logical conclusion. But nope! Seriously, even people who have never read a comic in their lives know that Rogue and Gambit are a couple. They are that iconic. I think Singer had some weird, personal hatred for Gambit as a character. I mean, why else would he have completely ignored him in spite of the character's popularity?
Um, how about that he wouldn't fit in a film that's all about introducing the school? Also, I had no idea about Rogue and Gambit until long after I saw the X-Men films.
@@matthewmuir8884 That's probably because you were too young to remember X-men TAS. Still doesn't change the fact that people who haven't read comics know they are together or that they are an iconic couple. You just didn't know much about the X-men. And that "he wouldn't fit in" stuff is bullshit. Filmmakers make space for things they think are important. Period.
@@blacksmartie8801 Yes; I probably am a bit too young to remember the animated X-Men series (though I think I may have seen one or two episodes of it). Also, yes, filmmakers make space for things they think are important. In a film already packed with characters and with a main focus on Magneto's mutant-making machine, who exactly Rogue romances is not that important; the importance of it in the film was to give Rogue a bond with someone at the school that Mystique could then exploit to get Rogue to leave the school. For that, and given Rogue's age, you need a student, and preferably a nice student rather than one with a roguish (pun not intended) personality. Does that sound like Gambit to you? Also, Singer didn't have spite for the character; he actually did want to add in Gambit at various points, but they got cut. He had planned to include Gambit in the third X-Men film as a romantic rival with Iceman for Rogue. But, given how already-overstuffed with characters the film was already, the Gambit parts were cut from the script. If he hated Gambit, he wouldn't have included him the first chance he got in X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
If he'd commanded Sabretooth to punch Magneto out instead of just grabbing him by the throat Magneto never would've been able to turn the cops' weapons on themselves.
exactly! the bullets had already been fired too, so Magnetos power was the only thing keeping them from killing the cops. and a bunch of cops getting killed by mutants isnt exactly gonna help the whole idea of "lets get the humans to not hate and fear us" thing set up in the beginning of the movie
I also doubt Magneto would've hesitated to kill Sabretooth if it came down to it. It wouldn't have even been that hard since he's being controlled by Charles. Even if he's able to dodge it would still break his grip on Magneto.
Honestly making an alien and modifying the look from the comic wouldn't have been too much of a stretch. Certainly would have been better then advertising an Iron Man film with his signature nemesis and then gives us a watered down version of the extremis story line. The did mandarin without the mandarin, Extremis without transhumanism and Iron man where he's almost never in the armor. Yeah, fuck Iron Man 3. I make no apologies for that opinion.
@@Mister-ThirteenI think critics liked Iron Man 3 because most critics don't "get" comic book movies. So they grade comic book movies on a steep curve, and this applies to unfaithful adaptations as well since the critics can't tell the difference. Critics are also fond of Shane Black. Iron Man 3 is also defended by a lot of fans, but so is Iron Man 2.
There's something about Patrick Stewart that only a very few actors share - Jeff Goldblum and Eddie Redmayne are two of them. Man, you can just sit and listen to their voices for hours. It sends shivers up your spine just to hear them.
Just like watching the X-Men cartoons when I got home from school. Nothing got done until I got to see X-Men on Fox Kids. :) I was older, so this is the only one I watched.
26:04 I love how half the time, you're just posing a question as a criticism or a plot hole. Telling people about Magneto would not work because A) No evidence other than their word B) The military can do nothing against Magneto C) The X-Men stand the best chance with their powers, sans Wolverine And D) The whole point of the X-Men is that they stop the bad mutants from doing harm as they see that as part of their responsibility and showing the world they are the good guys
I figured it would be the problem that "hey there's a mutant terrorist" would just lend more credence to the idea that humans need to stop the mutants as a whole. Hence, if the mutants can stop the terrorists without letting the humans know about it, problems could be averted.
No mean to disrespect but A- with little reason I can think of for a lie like that to be said, it’s seems likely that any terrorist report would at least be investigated(since a suspicious suit case can trigger alarms in an airport, surely a whole group of even hated people saying”hey someone’s out to get you at this location” would at least trigger some phone calls) B-c/ well, I’m not sure the military would be like”well, he is threatening world leaders, but it’s not like we have a chance, so we should just standby”. Any backup would do wonders on D- as important as that theme is, is it really ethical or even logical to risk such a life threatening mission over a stance of leading for example?
I was 10 and my sister took me to see this. We watched the cartoon allthe time. All i remember is i loved it and my sister was upset rogue wasnt rogue. Good times.
You criticize the movie for changing characteristics and behaviour of some mutants and say nothing about AWESOME portrayal of Mystique. Rebecca is a true Mystique, not Lawrence with her star fever
@@BlackOpsPeppe Yes, she's a good actress but her Mystique is trash! In X-men: Apocalypse, we only see a blue Mystique in the end because Jennifer Lawrence didn't want to spend hours in the make-up chair. Why the hell would you sign on to portray a comic book character and not fully commit to the role?
Movie suggestions 1. Spider-Man 3 2. Punisher (1990) 3. Harry and the Henderson's 4. Turner and Hooch 5. Barnyard 6. Murr's movie "Damned" from Impractical Jokers 7. The Shadow
"Do you know what happens to the toad when it's struck by lightning? Same thing that happens to everything else." ... is hands down the dumbest and cringiest punchline I've heard in my entire life (and I've heard plenty), even now ~20 years later...
There was originally a running joke where Toad said "Do you know what happens when a toad *insert situation here* it *insert what happens that makes toads survivors* " No clue why they cut that but kept the kill line...
@@ShadowSonic2 Can you get knocked out with that helmet on? I mean, Iron Man seems to survive head traumas all the time. Only reason I could think of for using the choke is if Magneto is using his power to keep the helmet bolted on his head. Then again, I've seen characters in movies get knocked out by a shot to the back of the neck.
Schlock Jocks because he has too much respect for magneto and is too much of a pacifist in order either to have envisioned that he would hold theses cops hostage in such a manner (respect), or to resolve himself to kick magneto like that (pacifism, +a bit of respect I imagine).
Yeah, but when it comes to Nightcrawler, FOX pretty much focuses on nothing but the fact that he's the only X-Man who's Catholic. That and I don't like how they make him so depressed when he's really the cheerful, comic-relief.
@@benlutostanski7755 If we see them rip it to shreds or accidentally find something poignant in it (like they did with Batman Forever), I'm OK with that.
"Terrible mom" even though she has the title of aunt never mom. I find her hilarious in this and her apparently first appearance in the Phantom of the Opera review
30:40 bet it’s hard to say this, but this Wolverine/Sabertooth rivalry is one thing WOLVERINE ORIGINS got more or less right! Plus, Liev Schrieber was a much better Sabertooth!
I actually kinda go with the idea that this Sabertooth is not the same as the Origins Wolverine one. Yes he was much better in that movie but because of the lack of recolonization of Logan on his part it creates a MASSIVE plot hole unless it is a different mutant with similar powers. But also... these are the Fox X-Men movies where continuity does not exist.
Now that we are over-saturated with half ass live action versions to Disney movies, I'd like some reviews of their actual original movies. Like Disney's Treasure Planet and Atlantis.
In all honesty, with how poorly Disney views those two movies. I personally feel they deserve the live action treatment over the stories they took from other sources. Sort of their second attempt to salve any existing problems rather then putting more into the ones people remember better.
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Can you review west Side Story please
Please review x men evolution
Marevl will always have better (live action) movies than DC. I dare anyone to say otherwise.
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You know, the rivalry between Magneto and Professor X in this movie feels surprisingly more genuine in a weird way when you consider that they're played by actors who have one of the most infamous celebrity bromances in history
And this was the first movie in which they worked together. Before this, Patrick Stewart was always a REALLY big fan of Sir Ian Mckellen (from what I heard). After this though the two became of best friends XD. Their relationship to this day is so pure XD
@Goddess 18 maybe for Hugh Jackman. but Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen theyve both had amazing careers before the xmen movies. not just through Theater but through other movies and tv shows.
They were the best parts of the trilogy & their bromance IRL is absolutely adorable
They were both in the lord of the rings series.
@@nolabratteig988 patrick stewart wasn´t in lord of the rings
Best audience moment watching the film in theatres back in 2000: some woman obviously unfamiliar with the source material yells out "Holy S***!" when Logan pops his claws for the first time.
I popped outta my undies when I first saw the Logan
LMAO!
😭😂
Logan’s claws never came out of him in the comics though?
@@thefilmrookie3099 They did
Fun fact everyone probably already knows: The truck driver who drops Rogue off is the voice actor for Beast in X-Men: The Animated Series.
I did not know that
That's pretty cool
Yes that's one of my fav parts in the movie is hearing his voice. I also heard the voice actor of Magneto was offered the role of Magneto in the movie.
sweet
WOW! I didn't know that. That really is a fun fact
In case anyone hasn't already mentioned it Magneto's helmet is metal... I'm pretty sure he's not just gonna let prof x pull it off... just saying
That's a really good counter argument.
@Heniz Oofenshmirtz Considering Magneto's magnetic abilities was strong enough to easily overpower wolverine whom sabre-tooth struggles to defeat, and catch the crashing x-men jet in X-2 I don't think even saber-tooth could have pulled the helmet off against Magneto's will and attempting such would only result in the police getting shot immediately.
Hey, I like the way you think
@Heniz Oofenshmirtz in the comics Magneto ripped an entire ISLAND out of the ocean and put it in orbit, sabertooth can benchpress a pickup truck
Also, if Magneto's power is enough to keep the helmet in place, I am pretty sure Sabretooth would have ripped his head right off in the attempt. Probably something Charles wasn't a big fan of.
“He can sing, he can dance, he can host the oscars and somehow still be credible as a badass”
Terry Crews ?
@Zahir Datoo Racist
Well, Hugh Jackman won't come back as Wolverine, so...
He can sing and dance? I never knew that.
@@masonallen3961 I think that was well demonstrated in The Greatest Showman.
@@b3rz3rk3r9 Terry Crews was in The Greatest Showman?
Here’s the thing with Rogue: every picture you showed of her, every description of her personality was of her AFTER she absorbed Ms. Marvel’s psyche and Kree powers. It’s easy to be confident and spew one-liners when you have super strength, flight, near invulnerability and someone else’s mind.
What about Evolution Rogue? She still managed to be both badass and vulnerable at the same time in the right ways. She's probably my favourite adaption of Rogue, although I admit to having not read the comics so not sure how faithful she is.
@@Mcyxof She was. Rogue really doesn't need the Ms Marvel powers to be cool. These movies really just made her a combo of all of Logan's kid sidekicks (Jubilee, Shadowcat).
Rogue WAS a confused, angry teenager when she first debuted in the comics, who hadn't sucked away and copied Miss Marvel's powers yet.
True but she was also adopted by Mystique and kinda a bad guy
Yet she was also adopted by Mystique and watched over by her blind friend for years.
Yeah. they are going to base all of their comparisons on the cartoon not the comics.
Yeah, if you think the nostalgia critic is actually good at research or writing you hoping for too much. He makes these kinds of mistakes all the time. Also, you can tell he is a giant control freak.
Exactly, in this movie she has the potential to evolve to that point. We all know she doesn't, but that doesn't diminish her character.
Rogue didn't initially have all those other powers.
She gained them from draining Miss Marvel almost to death.
True but she was also a bad guy and adopted by Mystique clearly they didn't want to follow everything so why not change that
Something I always wondered is why rogue isn't one of the most powerful of all marvel characters. Sure she has to absorb a person's power to near death to get it permanently but she can also get it for a temporary amount of time. In theory she could absorb the combined powers of every single one of the X-Men and several other characters become the most powerful being in all of marvel
opid STUPID ITS IT ONLY in the comics not the 2000s movies DAMN stupid
I think rogue can also as absorb the personalities of others too hence why she doesn't drain every superhuman without altering her own mindset
Wow no one in the comments said that
Is no one going to address the fact that rouge can only fly because she stole the powers from Ms. Marvel so this is a GOOD portrayal of a younger rouge.
Yeah, that's how I always considered it. She just learned she can kill someone just by touching for a few seconds, anyone would suddenly be scared and timid!
I suppose Carol is Captain Marvel now isn't she? But yeah, I was screaming at the screen every time they brought that up.
Yeah, my impression (after I got over the annoyance) was that hey, this was probably what she was like in the comics before I got into them -- well before the 90's cartoon that I grew up on, or the established relationships of the comics that were coming out at the time. I mean, the original group of the X-Men was a far different cry from the group that I got started with... I think they had, what, Beast and Angel, but none of the regular girls except for Jean Grey? And certainly no Wolverine back then.
I thought this was going to be good because they would segue from the early Rogue into a more confident, competent one over time -- I also expected a similar thing with Nightcrawler, my favorite swashbuckling blue elf. Neither came to fruition, but that was why I was able to accept the original bit, which seemed to be establishing the "before" part of the "Before and After" transformation.
Hell, why did Mystique, of all people, get more of a character arc in the movies than Rogue, Storm, or Cyclops?
Also, the switch of relationships isn't such a bad thing; Rogue's had more than just Gambit over the years (even though I certainly was disappointed by that lost potential), and other characters have swapped relationships here and there. Heck, Rogue even got together with Magneto!
If they gave her the extra powers in this version, that wouldn't be comic accurate either (because they don't have the rights to Ms. Marvel) and I am sure a lot of people who never saw the cartoon version would say she was overpowered if she had Carol Danvers's powers AND could absorb other everyone else's powers via touch
Sure but Anna Paquin is still a complete miscast. I’m fine with the character adjustments. But Paquin was still wrong for the role.
Yeah that Sabertooth Wolverine rivalry could’ve been better, but X and Magneto’s is infinitely more important. If I could only have one to focus on in this movie, it’s theirs.
still doesn't excuse the fact how much they messed it up in x men origins wolverine
@@thewolfofwallstreet627 I don't think they messed up their rivalry in Origins
ROGUE: Professor, my powers are ruining my life! I HATE being a mutant!!
XAVIER: I see... perhaps some nice HISTORY homework would cheer you up!
23:16 That makes me laugh so hard every time I watch it!
*ROUGE* :Wuh?
@@rocketgroot4311 HISTORY CLASS!
@@penny1545
*I HATE SCHOOL*
@@rocketgroot4311 Go to History Class right now! It will make you feel better and even to start loving school!
Hugh Jackman was the best Wolverine in the X-men film franchise and he still is. When I first saw this movie, I fell in love with it right away. Ian Mckellen as Magneto and Patrick Steward as Professor X, hell Yeah! I love the moment that Logan and Rouge had in that train scene, Logan tries to be a good brother/father figure for her and it works perfectly.
The best...and probably the only
Who else has played Wolverine?
But he's the only one though even still to this day.... lol
Think Karl Urban would be a good Wolverine?
Logan was amazing and sad af.
You missed my favorite line in the movie. There is a scene in the statue of liberty were Cyclops holds Wolverine at arm's length because he isnt sure if its mystique or not. When Cyclops asked him to prove his identity Wolverine calls him a dick. Cyclops concedes the argument and just says yeah OK
Yeah, but that was an actually funny scene, so no need to critique it.
My favorite line was "Saber Tooth... Storm... What do they call you, wheels?
Atleast worth a mention when quite a few rhings are mentioned also pointing and painting in ways .its nice humor
For me it's "A Bolt of lightning into a huge copper conducter… I thought you lived in a school?" that's my favourite line, but then I did think Cyclops was an utter tool even when I first saw this movie so...
Same here
Well, it's quite obvious that the intention with Rogue was to transform her into badass across the trilogy. Sadly, the plan just...
...didn't fly.
You get a like from me.
Same here
in fact they even have her cure herself of her mutant ability.
@@arachnesakura9375 It makes some sense though.
Maybe they can go with the powerhouse type rogue this time around for the mcu
“The greatest rivalry is between the two old men!”
......I’ve got nothing. That statement speaks for itself.
Funny thing is Wolverine and Sabertooth are actually much older than Charles and Erik
Wasted opportunity: What happens to a toad when it's hit by lightning?
It croaks.
Very nice
That would have been a much better line than "The Same Thing That Happens To Everything Else."
I would've also accepted "It gets TOADsted!"
“…sh^t that’s good…”
TFS Piccolo
They treated the movie seriously, which is exactly what was needed. Gave comic movies some merit.
Being critical is his job. He's a Critic not a say nice stuff about stuff guy.
@@MamaMOB (I know this was a year ago, but...) Being a critic doesn't mean "being critical". It means being able to look at something critically (i.e. with minimal personal subjective bias and examining objectively what works and what doesn't and why that is). There is literally nothing to stop a critic from spending an entire review just saying nice stuff about stuff if they feel it's deserved (and can explain why), and plenty have critics have done exactly that multiple times. NC was even originally created as a parody of overly critical and nitpicky critics who were seemingly unable to see any amount of good in anything and Doug Walker even seems to hold a certain level of personal contempt for those kinds of people - he created a character literally called "Douchey McNitpick" just to prove that point.
Greybeard's point was a perfectly valid one to make. The fact is that X-Men was one of two comic book movies of the early 21st century (Spider-Man being the other) that almost single-handedly gave comic book movies back their credibility after an entire decade of being treated with contempt both by the industry and audiences, and one of the reasons why is that X-Men took its subject matter and the portrayal of said subject matter seriously and didn't "camp it up". It's fairly safe to say that without X-Men and its positive reception by audiences at the time, we would not have the MCU as it exists today. Is it a perfect movie? Definitely not, but it certainly had a huge impact which needs to be taken into account now when looking back on it.
Doug's commercials are better than the ones played during the Super Bowl!
I'm still amused and freaked out by his Dollar SHave Club ad.
SHAVE
It more than better it's beterrrrr
Usually I cannot stand commercials
his advertisements...he could make a full video of his better ones
and I would watch.
@@louisduarte8763
SHAVE!
@@ChannelAwesome EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! He noticed me! He noticed me!
[rips off shirt][sprays paint in face]
WITNESS ME! I AM AWAITED IN VALHALLA!
Mystique actually has a healing factor, that's how she survived.
Which would make sense, the fact she can transform may possibly allow her to change so that she just like... Doesn't have the wound, hell, she can change into animals,
2000 was almost 20 years ago? Good Lord I feel old...
You and me both, dude.
I know right i just made 17 8 days and i was born in 02 dang time goes by so fast
Tell about me it. I still remember going to see South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut that previous summer in 1999, then seeing X-men that next following summer in July 2000 I believe. Never did I think both of those would be feature films because South Park was still new at the time and only two years old and DC were really the main guys putting comic book films out in theaters.
It took a lot longer to get from 1980 to 2000.
1990 was almost 30 years ago
It's not just Jubilee who looked up to Logan. Kitty had an entire series establishing her Big Brother/Little Sister relationship in the Rookie series
Yeah, Wolverine has a string of relationships with characters like that. They could've used any one of the existing characters, but of course they'd have to shift the plot to focus on a different power.
Jubilee got badass, by the way. Eventually. And I've always loved Kitty, who's been through more than most of the other characters I know, including that she got trained by ninjas and can slip out of her clothes while hanging upside down. Or something like that. I have quite a few comics but not in order, so I get her history in bits and pieces ^_^
did you stop watching during the part where exactly that is brought up?
Lexi Barrow Logan was every young and troubled teen girls dad in the comics. Rogue, Kitty, Jubilee, Illyana, X-23/Laura Kinney, etc.
Well hopefully the MCU will get it right this time
Jubilee is my favorite X-Man and favorite Marvel girl overall I pray that she FINALLY becomes a main cast member when the MCU reboot arrives Jubs deserves her due
Doug, this is it. After X Month Is finished you have to fulfill your destiny...
It's Time...
*Review DUNE*
The Spice Must Flow
NO. PLEASE. That would be pointless,, different time, different directions. Please review Island of dr. Moureau. Marlon Brando is soooo high in that film.
But...but...but...
*HE WHO CONTROLS THE SPICE CONTROLS THE UNIVERSE!!!*
Dune review
@@ivanvoronov3871: Especially an Old VS New - as there is a remake, maybe a mini-series I think. Saw it a long time ago... and can't really tell if the remake was horrible or passable.
Fun fact: there was supposed to be a running gag where Toad would constantly brag about himself in the third person throughout the movie, however the only remnant of the joke was Storm saying "Do you know what happens when a toad gets stuck by lightning?"
Yeah, that didn’t work out in the end
Modern Rogue doesn't fly. Most portrayals of her don't have her flying because it involves a bunch of stuff with Ms. Marvel and it eventually gets reversed anyway.
Modern Rogue flys plenty. After she lost the Ms. Marvel powers she gained Sunfire's and then later Wonder Man's. Between those, was her having access to every power she's ever had, death touch which didn't last long, and then absolute control of her powers.
@@LupineShadowOmega I'll admit that I did not know that. But I do still feel like it isn't as major a part of her character as this video makes it out to be.
@@TippytoeZombie to be fair they're probably talking about the comics published around the time the movie was made
@@TippytoeZombie depends on what era of Rogue you're talking about. Him being a 90s kid, Jim Lee Rogue is the one in his head. I know plenty of people whom that's their favorite version, same with Xtreme X-Men Rogue where she was rocking the remembering past powers and had the red costume.
For me my favorite has always been post Super Novas because for me I enjoyed Rogue sort of struggling with her basic powerset and kind of being an underdog.
That's closer to movie Rogue, but even then Malcom's character has a point. She still didn't take any shit. In fact she was leading one of the most dangerous X-teams we're probably ever had with Sabretooth, Mystique, Omega Sentinel, and Lady Mastermind all on the team. And she made it pretty clear that she'd put her foot in the first person to get out of line.
i dont think the powers are the problem, i think its the fact that movie Rougue is a victim of her powers for 3 movies while comics/cartoon rougue started as a victim but later became a badass who learned to live with it.
Movie is almost two decades old, Jesus.
And without this movie, there wouldnt be an MCU.
What about Spiderman? MCU is more similar to this movie.
@@marcinbudzinski9347 Spider-Man was born out of this too. Technically, every Marvel movie after this owes a lot to X-Men. This could've killed the superhero genre for a long time.
MadCap Er... it didn’t say the movie was total shit, just that it had some flaws but those eventually became the groundwork for future Marvel movies
that's like saying
"but the budget was low"
outside issues aren't not an excuse
we are judgeing the art based on it's marets as art not on if it can sell ...ext
@@madcap3450 just cause it helped created something else that was great
that doesn't make it a good thing
otherwise people will go out of their way to commit mistakes like stealing and murder so they can learn the real meaning if freidnship and jail sentences
Hugh Jackman is Wolverine, no-one will be able to replace him.
eh, I'm sure in 20 years or so they will start remaking super hero movies and find a good replacement for him, but people will bitch that it was better in the past out of nostalgia.
@@Zeon081 some actors do define roles. genie, tony stark, xavier. if you wnat to replace these actors you need to wait a LONG time.
Amen
So he should rather die
I heard Jason Momoa wants a shot...and honestly... I can SEE it.
what are you doing in the comments? GET TO HISTORY CLASS
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3:22 uh the Mandarin was never an alien. He was a human who got his hands on ten alien jewels that he used to make rings that gave him his powers.
Yeah. Ummm, also Rouge did not have natural flight and strength. They really like to pretend that they know the comics, but fail
@@plutarcouranus4200 Which is really said since Goggle is a thing.
@@plutarcouranus4200 Nostalgia Critic is funny but he is terrible at accuracy. He compared Teen Titans Go to Spongebob of all things. Yes compare the parody driven saterical show to the light-hearted surreal show. Honestly Family Guy would have made more sense because of the constant references and fourth wall jokes. And that whole list of things he got wrong.
@@plutarcouranus4200 which is equally funny because he's a huge fan of the Fox Kids cartoon, which shows Rogue absorbing Ms. Marvel's powers.
@@plutarcouranus4200 Almost everyone I know complained about Rouge not flying in this movie. I don't understand why this entire comment section is pretending he's the first to speak out about it. And Malcom makes a great point that they could've just changed it for the movies.
Malcom plays a PERFECT teenager!
From the way a teen talks to the way a teen moves, he has it PERFECTLY
Well to be fair the flying, bad ass rogue was only after she got touchy feely with ms marvel....... and Disney did get the x men back and we just got ms marvel.....
You mean Captain Marvel
Doesn’t fox still own the Xman/Deadpool though
MrPiratesean Disney bought Fox films, so they have rights now
Don't you make promises that they won't keep!
lol
Wat
“Did I just turn gay?”
“We all did”
Ever since it was legal to my dismay
@@maxiwaxi1958 Oof
You just got hughjacked
Now I know why
Does anyone know what song is playing at that part?
I remember growing up loving this and X-men Evolution more than the 90s Cartoon, Idk what it was I liked the 90s cartoon but I wasnt obsessed with it like the 90s Spider-man series and even though it has some flaws This movie is still one of my fav Non MCU films tbh
What is your opinion now?
Damn dude, you watch everyone.
X-Men Evolution was more teen-oriented. X-Men TAS starred mostly adult characters. I love them both equally.
JaxBlade you comment on UA-cam videos more than any other youtuber
@@antona.1327 why did they stare at adult characters?
Who else just heard the critic say "year 2000 almost 20 years ago" and then felt really old?
Rogue only had any of her superpowers after she was brainwashed into nearly murdering Ms. Marvel.
Yeah I don't like how they act like it ain't rogue unless she has those extra powers. Too caught up in the cartoon version.
Hmmm lets hope this happens soon
It is kinda ironic that this review drops the same week as her movie.
@shihoblade I agree with you. I don’t like the way how they say it’s not rouge when in all reality it is her. But it’s probaly not the rouge they remember
@@shihoblade It was the same in the cartoon. there was an episode that showed how Rogue had Ms. Marvel in her head for a while afterwards
>some military will get there
>same military who currently has no means to fight magneto, ergo are using metal weapons
>magneto is the master of magnetism
I mean, common critic, this one wasnt so hard to figure it out, right?
And I’m sure that extra distraction to buy them time and keep Magneto’s attention certainly wouldn’t be of any help whatsoever.
That moment when you realize Xmen Origins did a better job with the rivalry between Wolverine and Sabertooth than this movie
That...that hurts to think about.
Sabertooth was the best thing about that film
Sabertooth was just about the only good thing about that film.
@@jliller what about Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool?
That movie had THE BEST Sabertooth!! Liev was absolutely fantastic 😍
Rogue could only fly because she absorbed Carol Danvers' powers. Just sayin.
I found it kinda funny that they made this goof the exact week her movie is set to release.
Did Fox even have the rights required to do a "faithful" adaptation of Rogue post Carol Danvers absorption?
@@NichtcrawlerX Absolutely not...
Yeah I was gonna say, Rogue wasn't a confident flying super strong badass from day one. I've never actually read the comics and I knew this (wiki).
This irritated me for the whole review too. You can't really crap on the movie for not being faithful when they were faithfully adapting Rogue, just from a different point in her life than the one shown in the cartoon where all of Doug's X-Men knowledge comes from.
I really liked Malcolm's character in this review he added alot to this
Mr. T, you mean? I couldn't agree more.
Tamara needed to be in this more than she was
I'm confused, his character is supposed to be a young kid who hasn't seen the old films, but he knows the show from the 90s and likes Jubilee?
AJL Well, I grew up watching the 90s show on Kabillion long after it ended, so he probably had a similar case.
XD I agree, and I saw this in high school and was snobby about Xmen... I was probably as annoying picking it apart.
Magneto could probably make all those guns fire before Xavier could use Sabretooth to take his helmet off. Magneto wouldn't lose any sleep over a bunch of dead humans but Xavier would.
Also Doug says that Sabertooth should be going after Wolverine instead of Storm but why would Magneto go after storm when he has a significantly bigger advantange fighting wolverine due to his body being made of metal. Not to mention storm would have the advantage over magneto due to her lightning against his metal. I get that it would be better for the rivalry between wolverine and sabertooth but i guarentee if it happened like that he would be bitching about that plothole and say that sabertooth should have went after storm while magneto went after wolverine.
@@exponent2316 I was gonna say, it makes a lot of strategic sense.
Is it weird I really dug malcolm and dougs interaction and acting here?
Will The Greatest nah I dug It too
Perhaps... They are the greatest rivals?
It was amazing
I think you mean you *DOUG* their interactions here.
I'm sorry, I'll leave now...
It was weird how there excitement was contagious
This movie walked so that others could run.
Exactly!
More like crippled crawled so they can run
Same has the series
Jarvis sometimes you've got to run before you can walk/
Superhero/comics movies especially. Hard to believe they weren't taken seriously before.
Well to be fair rouge was only able to fly via sucking Ms Marvels powers which permanently gave her flight
not like this nostalgic moron would have researched something like that
@@GantzIsSloppy : I got the impression that BOTH of these guys' X-Men knowledge prior to the first movie came entirely from the Saturday morning cartoon.
@@rogermwilcox and not even all of the cartoon, because in the show it has an episode about her stealing the powers from Ms Marvel.
@@camaronherrmann1894 Exactly.
camaron herrmann people can forget things you know.
A series that started out very strong
X-Men (2000)
Continues its upper trajectory
X2 (2003)
With bumps on the road
X-Men: The Last Stand (2006) (i admit that the bridge scene was fantastic)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009)
But with a regenerating reboot, everything comes back on track
X-Men: First Class (2011)
Even with bump on the road number 3
The Wolverine (2013)
He continued strong, with a very funny Merc With A Mouth
X-Men: Days Of Future Past (2014)
Deadpool (2016)
But he was very old, and so he passed his greatest legacy to the new generation
Logan (2017)
Meanwhile, his funny friend went to join a higher standard (Marvel Studios)
Deadpool 2 (2018)
But the old franchise, realized that he made a very very VERY BAD MISTAKE! and thought “I passed my legacy to this?!?!? I died in vain!😭”
X-Men: Apocalypse (2016)
X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019)
I don’t think, Deadpool part of the universe cause Deadpool is set Modern Days and The X-men movies(the reboot) are set in 1970s or 1980s
Apocalypse was not THAT bad.
The wolverine was not a bump in the road.
@@edwardbo4666 The Wolverine was actually pretty good and WAY better than X-Men Origins:Wolverine.
The Wolverine was a good movie...
Nostalgia Critic: Why don't you use Sabretooth you are controlling at the moment to take his helmet off so you can read/control his mind?
Good idea, BUT the problem is that Magneto himself is ALREADY a 'magnet': no matter how hard you try to pull the helmet off (it's made of metal), it will not budge and remain that way as long as he's conscious and/or aware of his surroundings.
Yep, exactly on both points. Movie: 2, Doug: 0
Glen Wang It doesn’t really matter as no super hero comic or movie will ever survive nitpicking ... mainly because they are all entirely based on „what is physics, never heard of it“ logic.
@@davidgantenbein9362: I love it, when laws of nature are just well meant suggestions :D
But there is other plothole, Professor X can read mind of any other minion, and find location of his base, and attack it, before he attacks.
There’s also a big ol’ face-punchin’ hole right there to knock him out. Js
“Did I just turn gay?”
“We all do”
Had me laughing so hard!
This movie was actually faithful to the ORIGINAL Rogue, before she stole Captain Marvel's powers.
Remember, flight and super strength only came after she absorbed, and almost killed Carol Danver's aka Captain Marvel and at the time, thought to have permanently stolen her power set.
Yea..but what we WANTED was a movie with Rogue..the bitch that ALREADY flies and punches shit.
Not some teen who needs to grow up then LATER come in contact with some other lady YEARS later, then she gets to fly.
So..they shouldve brought in Rogue, the flyer. Not Rogue the cryer.
Not even us true fans would've cared if she had already had the powers. We actually cared that she didn't.
It's really only in today's UA-cam days that people try to get super picky and super "historically" correct on details regarding comics.
They couldve created a storyline where she already had the flight and power, then went through some stupid flashback of her meeting some lady and taking them. I'm which Professor X must help her control.
Also..Gambit.
Or she couldve had flight and power from someone else..kinda semi permanent..until some later time when she meets Marvel.
We really didn't care. We wanted the true rogue or close to it. And later we just accepted it as a bust. Stayed true to at least cyclops..somewhat and wolverine...
@@agonleed3841 You know Rogue lost those powers years ago and only has the absorbing stuff again?
@@agonleed3841 I agree to an extent but looking back you have to remember that superhero movies were barely a thing yet and their budgets and styles reflected that. This movie was a grounded version of X-Men with much less of the insane colorful creativity from the comics. Comics people accepted it at the time but as time went on and better superhero movies came out we viewed this little movie (still a ground breaker for sure) with less favor than what came after. So it truly would have been smart to lead up to a flying rogue somewhere down the line once general audiences settled in to the genre. Because I am fairly certain that if they had gone that route on this movie with a flying, super strong Rogue she would have been rendered in bad early 2000's CGI which would NOT have done her justice. Am I making sense? I just finished a long shift at work I hope my point is getting across.
My first X-men franchise was X-Men Evolution, so I didn't know Rogue was supposed to fly at all. She seemed cool enough as a copier trump.
@@nikolasbryant4235
I honestly found Evolution's treatment of her power kit to be far more interesting than her just being given Carol Danvers powers. Her absorption mutating into a boiling pot of all the powers she has previously taken and the toll it took on her psyche was far more creative than only giving her another character's gimmick overlapping her original one.
Wolverine had multiple teen proteges, not just Jubilee.
Except all of Rogue's non-absorption powers aren't hers, they're the Carrol Danvers Mrs Marvel, which was adapted into the Animated series you reviewed just last week
Because she had them at the time in the comics.
and? She had them longer than Carol. Carol gained binary powers even before Rogue joined X-men.
Ok, but she is "just new fresh mutant" Rogue here, in the comic she is also an adult woman from years
Was going to say the same thing.
Rogue shouldn't start off as an woman with her additional powers anyway.
Its better that she starts off younger.
I literally commented same thing before but the one getting likes was you.
Good job♡
What happens to a toad when it's struck by lightning? It croaks. Comic book one liner was right there and they didn't do it.
But I learned from this review. Awesome.
To be fair, the line falls flat because all of the build up to the joke was cut from the film. Toad was supposed to have this catch phrase "Do you know what happens to a Toad when..." throughout the film, that'd be used to subtly explain his powers, so by the end of the film, when it's used against him in his final scene it'd have more payoff. But instead it just felt like a dumb wrongly said one liner.
@@john-ericcervini3179 proof?
I've seen a deleted scene where she actually does say "It croaks", but that was cut from the film for some reason.
It cracks, actually. Toads croak.
@@d2factotum Why on earth did they cut it? It's like two seconds of screentime but it would have improved the scene so much.
The first time we saw Logans claws.
THAT WAS AMAZING!!!!
I think Wolverine, Xavier, and Magneto were the most loyal adaptation of the comic characters
Beast was good in X-Men 3, too. Probably one of the only things that wasn’t awkward about that movie
@@ISBuckley8the actually did a good adaptation of the Gifted storyline from Uncanny X-Men
@@BC92Se7en I liked Alan Cummings in the role and that fight scene was awesome. I generally like X2 as a whole
20:30 "Why didn't Saber-tooth take his helmet off Magneto ?"
Because Magneto holds the helmet with his power.
Rogue didn't even HAVE the flying and strength powers until she (semi-)permanently absorbed them from Carol Danvers/Ms. Marvel (now Captain Marvel). So it makes sense that she wouldn't have those abilities yet. Unless she absorbed them from SOME OTHER random mutant. And even then, she's occasionally not had them anymore over the decades (long story). That said, yeah, even at the time, I wasn't SUPER impressed by this movie (was definitely not-so-patiently waiting for Gambit and Nightcrawler to make their debuts).
It’s still an exciting thing to see after watching the x men show
She also wasn't a hero until her encounter with ROM Spaceknight. See Linkara's ROMtrospective for more details
Yes, not to mention that they refer a lot to specifically to rouge how she was portrayed in the cartoon, and while i did like that version of her, i felt like she relied WAY too much on the flight and strength; her absorption was just something she avoided using at all costs which made it less of a factor. I actually found later incarnations of her to be much more compelling where she did not have the ms-marvel super power set which allowed her own powers to stay at the forefront of her character. I think x-men evolution in particular took it into some very interesting directions
@@MonteCreations I agree the older cartoon made her rely on flight and strength a lot, to little kid me she was more like a female Superman than anything. Fun fact, in the Latin American dub Rogue was renamed Titania (for whatever reason), but for Evolution she was named Rogue again, so to me they were pretty much two completely different people.
Thank you. I was disappointed with their lack of knowledge.
"I'm a STEAK!"
"And that's ok." xD
I love Malcolm's sincerity in his monologues.
And not only that.
Most of his monologues actually makes a good point.
Doug's brand deals are literally the only commercials I never skip. Ever.
That being said, more Chaplin please.
+Philly
Appreciate that!
19:40
You mean Chaplinn with two n's?
They're hilarious!
X-MONTH has officially begun and the Dark Rob Saga has continued !!! Loving the new into 😁👌
I wonder if it'll review Logan. I hope he does a video on X Men finally coming to the MCU.
I hope he does X Men Wolverine Origins
Dedric Silva that hasn't happened yet
@@leephillips4402 I know but it will though MCU wise.
Dedric Silva I'll be sure not to watch it #boycottmarvel
"What happens to a toad that's struck by lightning? It turns into Darth Maul!"
X-Men was released a year after The Phantom Menace though.
It becomes Kermit the Frog-No, if a frog eats a butterfly he becomes Kermit,
so toad is secretly a bad ass tf he just needs that spark of hope nsjdiedjidk
Ah, the punchline to a joke mysteriously left in after all the set-up was cut out of the movie.
This version of Rouge didn't drain Ms. Marvels power completely away.
Too be honest, I miss Rebecca Romijn's Mystique. She gave a balance of sex appeal and mysterious and didn't talk too much like J-Law's Mystique . Also, this Mystique is very loyal to Magneto.
Her Mystique was awesome.
@@caseyjones8246 And one more thing, she was naked all the time!
@@margarethmichelina5146 amazing...
Hands down the best Mystique.
Until X3 when Magneto abandoned her after she lost her powers to "The cure" that was weaponzied by the government and she basically ratted him out.
I love the 2000 X-men movie but I get your point Nostalgia Critic
If Professor X tried to take off the helmet, I think Magneto could kill the officers first...just saying...
That would be a short movie
Yeah, pretty much what I figured too. The guns were cocked and ready, as soon as Sabertooth reached for that helmet... BLAM!
Someone also pointed out that Magneto controls metal... like his helmet. Trying to take it off would not work ESPECIALLY since its been proven in this film that this is the first time Charles has ever dealt with this helmet (before the prequels came out and retconned EVERYTHING.)
One part of the movie Doug misunderstood: Wolverine already knew for certain that was mystique and not storm because mystique can't change how she smells. So that wasn't just a lucky guess, Wolvie's power counters shapeshifters. This was actually a major plot point during the skrull invasion event in the comics.
or he was making a joke.
Doesnt rouge needs to touch Ms.Marvel for her to have super strength and flight???
Yes. And after the captain marvel movie came out we need her to do the deed.
Yes and she needs to kiss Rom to absorb some of his good side (she was originally a villain up until this point)
It’s marvel girl
Gee I never could have guessed how you knew that it’s not like everyone already said that
@@maxiwaxi1958 fee I wonder why your commenting a year old video that everyone already seen. Dont be a dick
13:21 "Send the mutants to the moon forever"
Was that an inhumans reference? In XMen 1? Better not let Disney find out.
I had a crush on the animated Rogue before I knew what a crush was.
We all did
And Storm
To be honest, now I want to see Nostalgia Critic review X-men 2, just so I can hear him freak out over that awesome White House sequence.
My goodness, I replayed that scene so many times.
you have that now
Aw sweet!
@@jocosesonata you're welcome, i guess
Thank you, for that.
Hugh hasn't aged much since then
I just died when he goes "oh she meets gambit?!" "mmmmh.."
It's the awkward hand motions that makes me giggle
Bobby Ice Man, more like it.
you know, if Charles had used his powers to make Sabertooth take off his helmet, I'm sure Magneto would shoot everyone.
Not if he'd been smart enough to have Sabretooth punch out Magneto first instead of talk to him.
that is true. Huh, what a waste of potential for story development.
so.... who's mutant power is faster? Xavier using Sabertooth to either punch or rip off Magnetos helmet, or Magneto pulling all the triggers. Magneto had the upper hand and could pull the trigger in a split seconds notice. Xavier did the right thing.
@@knight0fdragon Xavier caught Magneto off guard when he took over Sabretooth but stupidly wasted time talking to him instead of just having Sabretooth punch Magneto.
Schlock Jocks magneto was caught off guard because sabertooth did not make a sudden move, the hand came slowly from out of sight. A fast move would have Magneto acting aggressively quickly. Either with the fire arms or the the grenades. Xavier can it read Magnetos mind, so is unable to predict his move. This is chess, not checkers, which was the entire point of the first movie.
Wolverine gets teamed up with so many angsty teenage girls, I stopped keeping track.
Wait, I thought that NordVPN was the best VPN there is. Now I'm totally confused. Thanks, Nostalgia Critic.
"You should know the best VPN is the one that pays me" - Nostalgia Critic
You know how Google earns money by tracking you? These cheap VPN services take that away from Google and use it themselves. Hence the low price.
No man is heterosexual near Hugh Jackman
Especially deadpool
And that isn't even his final form
@PhantomKitten 28:33
8:15
Fresh creamery butter, is there anything more comforting?
rebecca romajn > j-law
jennifer i can't be bothered to look like the comic book character lawrence
It's Rommijn.
I almost choked on my water when the guy is like "Oh! So she meets Gambit?" LOL! That was a very logical conclusion. But nope! Seriously, even people who have never read a comic in their lives know that Rogue and Gambit are a couple. They are that iconic. I think Singer had some weird, personal hatred for Gambit as a character. I mean, why else would he have completely ignored him in spite of the character's popularity?
Um, how about that he wouldn't fit in a film that's all about introducing the school? Also, I had no idea about Rogue and Gambit until long after I saw the X-Men films.
Gambit is one of the dumbest, most obnoxious 90's Kewl characters to ever exist. He's detestable, and if you like him you have terrible taste.
@@matthewmuir8884 That's probably because you were too young to remember X-men TAS. Still doesn't change the fact that people who haven't read comics know they are together or that they are an iconic couple. You just didn't know much about the X-men. And that "he wouldn't fit in" stuff is bullshit. Filmmakers make space for things they think are important. Period.
@@wolfofthewest8019 Damn. You act like Gambit stole your girlfriend. LOL!
@@blacksmartie8801 Yes; I probably am a bit too young to remember the animated X-Men series (though I think I may have seen one or two episodes of it).
Also, yes, filmmakers make space for things they think are important. In a film already packed with characters and with a main focus on Magneto's mutant-making machine, who exactly Rogue romances is not that important; the importance of it in the film was to give Rogue a bond with someone at the school that Mystique could then exploit to get Rogue to leave the school. For that, and given Rogue's age, you need a student, and preferably a nice student rather than one with a roguish (pun not intended) personality. Does that sound like Gambit to you?
Also, Singer didn't have spite for the character; he actually did want to add in Gambit at various points, but they got cut. He had planned to include Gambit in the third X-Men film as a romantic rival with Iceman for Rogue. But, given how already-overstuffed with characters the film was already, the Gambit parts were cut from the script. If he hated Gambit, he wouldn't have included him the first chance he got in X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
If Professor X tried to use Sabertooth to take Magneto’s helmet off then Magneto would’ve shot the cops
I even doubt Sabertooth could take it off. Magneto could just use his power to keep it in place.
If he'd commanded Sabretooth to punch Magneto out instead of just grabbing him by the throat Magneto never would've been able to turn the cops' weapons on themselves.
This is also the reason the X-Men didn't just call the police or army on Magneto on Liberty Island.
exactly! the bullets had already been fired too, so Magnetos power was the only thing keeping them from killing the cops. and a bunch of cops getting killed by mutants isnt exactly gonna help the whole idea of "lets get the humans to not hate and fear us" thing set up in the beginning of the movie
I also doubt Magneto would've hesitated to kill Sabretooth if it came down to it. It wouldn't have even been that hard since he's being controlled by Charles. Even if he's able to dodge it would still break his grip on Magneto.
“He can sing, he can dance, he can host the Oscars and still be credible as a bad ass”
Wait! SPIDER-HAM is in this movies?!
@Corey Pack Peter Porker
@Corey Pack Watch spider verse movie
3:21
The Mandarin is not an alien. He's a human who uses alien technology.
Other than that, pretty funny video.
I was waiting for someone to nitpick that, exactly
Damnit Douchy
Honestly making an alien and modifying the look from the comic wouldn't have been too much of a stretch.
Certainly would have been better then advertising an Iron Man film with his signature nemesis and then gives us a watered down version of the extremis story line.
The did mandarin without the mandarin, Extremis without transhumanism and Iron man where he's almost never in the armor.
Yeah, fuck Iron Man 3.
I make no apologies for that opinion.
@Tyell Grant
Where did he point that out?
@@Mister-ThirteenI think critics liked Iron Man 3 because most critics don't "get" comic book movies. So they grade comic book movies on a steep curve, and this applies to unfaithful adaptations as well since the critics can't tell the difference. Critics are also fond of Shane Black. Iron Man 3 is also defended by a lot of fans, but so is Iron Man 2.
There's something about Patrick Stewart that only a very few actors share - Jeff Goldblum and Eddie Redmayne are two of them. Man, you can just sit and listen to their voices for hours. It sends shivers up your spine just to hear them.
I love the intro. It's so epic. This is the best part about Wednesdays
Just like watching the X-Men cartoons when I got home from school. Nothing got done until I got to see X-Men on Fox Kids. :) I was older, so this is the only one I watched.
Avery Lopez-Baines Forget the intro...we have the goshdarn thumbnail to look at.
Why are you on every UA-cam comment section??
26:04 I love how half the time, you're just posing a question as a criticism or a plot hole. Telling people about Magneto would not work because
A) No evidence other than their word
B) The military can do nothing against Magneto
C) The X-Men stand the best chance with their powers, sans Wolverine
And D) The whole point of the X-Men is that they stop the bad mutants from doing harm as they see that as part of their responsibility and showing the world they are the good guys
I figured it would be the problem that "hey there's a mutant terrorist" would just lend more credence to the idea that humans need to stop the mutants as a whole. Hence, if the mutants can stop the terrorists without letting the humans know about it, problems could be averted.
No mean to disrespect but
A- with little reason I can think of for a lie like that to be said, it’s seems likely that any terrorist report would at least be investigated(since a suspicious suit case can trigger alarms in an airport, surely a whole group of even hated people saying”hey someone’s out to get you at this location” would at least trigger some phone calls)
B-c/ well, I’m not sure the military would be like”well, he is threatening world leaders, but it’s not like we have a chance, so we should just standby”. Any backup would do wonders on
D- as important as that theme is, is it really ethical or even logical to risk such a life threatening mission over a stance of leading for example?
"Mystique fights like a stripper."
-My 19 year old brother
That doesn't make sense
Sus
😂
I was 10 and my sister took me to see this. We watched the cartoon allthe time. All i remember is i loved it and my sister was upset rogue wasnt rogue. Good times.
You criticize the movie for changing characteristics and behaviour of some mutants and say nothing about AWESOME portrayal of Mystique. Rebecca is a true Mystique, not Lawrence with her star fever
Lawrence has the charisma and emotional range of a piece of cardboard
Is a bit hipocrite because Doug loves Thor Ragnarok.
@@fanofgodjimindiva2497 fuckin go to hell,she'a good actress.....
Rebecca was far superior as Mystique and Lawrence so much as admitted it in interviews.
@@BlackOpsPeppe Yes, she's a good actress but her Mystique is trash! In X-men: Apocalypse, we only see a blue Mystique in the end because Jennifer Lawrence didn't want to spend hours in the make-up chair. Why the hell would you sign on to portray a comic book character and not fully commit to the role?
Movie suggestions
1. Spider-Man 3
2. Punisher (1990)
3. Harry and the Henderson's
4. Turner and Hooch
5. Barnyard
6. Murr's movie "Damned" from Impractical Jokers
7. The Shadow
Night raptor Barnyard: Awful piece of shit.
Tuner and Hooch: Funny and cute.
#6 HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
8. The Goonies
@COMRADE SPIFFMAN I think he also said he likes the X-Men films, yet, here we are...
@@eldiegoxter7517 Yeah, that's a good one
*”G e t t o H i s t o r y C l a s s !”*
"Do you know what happens to the toad when it's struck by lightning? Same thing that happens to everything else."
... is hands down the dumbest and cringiest punchline I've heard in my entire life (and I've heard plenty), even now ~20 years later...
My main problem with the scene was her casually killing Toad, i remember reading in the comics that she's very much against killing humans.
There was originally a running joke where Toad said "Do you know what happens when a toad *insert situation here* it *insert what happens that makes toads survivors* " No clue why they cut that but kept the kill line...
D K-sky the only lines that are equally cringey are from CW super hero shows😂
I'm glad Malcolm so much screen time in this episode!
He's my favourite!
The reason that he does not take of the helmet is because he has people at gunpoint.
He should've done it at the start instead of the neck grab.
So why didn't Xavier just have Sabretooth punch him out instead of just grab him by the neck?
@@ShadowSonic2 Can you get knocked out with that helmet on? I mean, Iron Man seems to survive head traumas all the time. Only reason I could think of for using the choke is if Magneto is using his power to keep the helmet bolted on his head. Then again, I've seen characters in movies get knocked out by a shot to the back of the neck.
Schlock Jocks because he has too much respect for magneto and is too much of a pacifist in order either to have envisioned that he would hold theses cops hostage in such a manner (respect), or to resolve himself to kick magneto like that (pacifism, +a bit of respect I imagine).
@@nathanjora7627 Over Rogue's safety? Really doesn't sound like Xavier from the comics.
X2 is better! It has Alan Cummings as Nightcrawler. There is no contest!
That might be next week's.
@@louisduarte8763 Yeah, but then in 2 weeks we have to get through X3: The Last Stand
Yeah, but when it comes to Nightcrawler, FOX pretty much focuses on nothing but the fact that he's the only X-Man who's Catholic. That and I don't like how they make him so depressed when he's really the cheerful, comic-relief.
@@benlutostanski7755 If we see them rip it to shreds or accidentally find something poignant in it (like they did with Batman Forever), I'm OK with that.
ha cumming
I would love to hear Tamara talk about how fun playing the "terrible mom" character is, she's always so funny as her!
"Terrible mom" even though she has the title of aunt never mom. I find her hilarious in this and her apparently first appearance in the Phantom of the Opera review
I love the intro you made for X-Month
So do I
Jared Gagnon cool
Sonic X shall be reviewed one day!!!
Critic: You weren't their when Shaq was Steel........STEEL!
Malcolm:......Your not wrong
Those were dark times indeed.
@OuterRaine Darks times indeed....good lord😨
*there
*You’re
I like Steel
30:40 bet it’s hard to say this, but this Wolverine/Sabertooth rivalry is one thing WOLVERINE ORIGINS got more or less right! Plus, Liev Schrieber was a much better Sabertooth!
I actually kinda go with the idea that this Sabertooth is not the same as the Origins Wolverine one. Yes he was much better in that movie but because of the lack of recolonization of Logan on his part it creates a MASSIVE plot hole unless it is a different mutant with similar powers. But also... these are the Fox X-Men movies where continuity does not exist.
@@cykesrevenge or maybe he also somehow lost his memory like Logan.
Fun fact: David Hayter wrote the first X Men movie. Solid Snake gave us the (so far) only on screen Wolverine.
I didn't even notice she was trying to do an African accent 😂😂😂😂
Yeah, that North American accent was all I could hear
She was training up for the accent, but it got nixed at the last minute, so some of it still came through.
I didn't notice it either!
Now that we are over-saturated with half ass live action versions to Disney movies, I'd like some reviews of their actual original movies. Like Disney's Treasure Planet and Atlantis.
In all honesty, with how poorly Disney views those two movies. I personally feel they deserve the live action treatment over the stories they took from other sources. Sort of their second attempt to salve any existing problems rather then putting more into the ones people remember better.
@Mohd Amerul Aidil Which one?
@@ShadowSuperWolf he means that both Treasure Planet and Atlantis would make great live action movies. I agree.
Doug did do both for disneycember, but an NC review would be good.
Carlos Almonacid I could’ve sworn the Critic doesn’t like people using his real name. . . Because of... Um.. nostalgic reasons. Lol (This is a joke)
The thumbnail is priceless, I would absolutely support Doug playing the new Wolverine
"I'm god damn Gandolf!"
I need that on a T-Shirt...