Reminds me of the X-Com flight game. The final missile has a max speed slower than the ship it's fired from, so if you fired it off at max speed you'd run into it and explode.
@@wolfheardt4169 But that only happened when the bullets traveled long enough for the speed of the bullets slowed down due to atmospheric drag. The bullet travels out of the barrels at the speed of the platform plus what it receives from the explosive actually pushing the round. The bullet travels a distance before it starts slowing down due to friction with the air, while the aircraft has a continuing thrust with it's engines. The bullets original thrust is all the energy it will receive, so it's speed at the end of the barrel is it's fastest speed.
@@willianyano8596 No, they usually move at 1000~ m/s, and the sound barrier is broken if an object moves faster than 350~ m/s (at 0 meters of altitude and at 20 degrees C°)
Fun fact: In the Megadrive version of the game "F-117 Night Storm", if you press the button to switch weapons at the exact right moment of firing/launching something, the weapon you fired will inherit the physics of whatever weapon you switched to. It was possible to have heat-seeking 1000lb bombs chasing down MiG-29s, as well as dropping precision-guided 30mm cannon shells onto bunkers, with varying effectiveness.
Reminds me of how this was a problem in Tribes Ascend and hows the devs adamantly refused, for a long time at least, to acknowledge that projectiles should inherit the velocity of their shooter in a game where you can routinely move faster than your own bullets.
but that's not realistic... a rifle bullet is faster than most jets, except maybe some russian ones and maybe the sr71.. there might be faster ICBMs, but jets? nah.
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Nah the bullets still would slow down way faster becouse of air resistance. Unless you instantly pop flaps, turn off the engine, extend the airbrakes you will outrun the bullets.
No. The bullets will always jump out in front of the plane and slow down and drop with air resistane and gravity. You could theoretically run into your bullets since the aircraft has thrust and the bullets don't.
Several jets historically have actually shot themselves down with their own fire. But this seems like the dev messed up on the ballistic calculations for the velocity of the bullets by forgetting to account for the speed of the aircraft, and how it should effect the trajectory.
There is a WW2 American Torpedo/Bomber that armed and released its incendiary bombs However unknown to the pilot when landing on the carrier later his last 11kg bomb started to burn out "Lava" what looked like the engine melting onto the flight deck..Next time you watch .. Carrier crashs and failures Keep a eye out for it
One jet has* It went into a dive, fired subsonic ammunition and then put on afterburners in the dive. The plane was then able to surpass the speed of the subsonic bullets and initial inertia of the plane as the bullets slowed down due to air resistance, enough for the plane with thrust to catch up. Had he fired rockets or missiles with powerful rocket motors producing thrust, he wouldn't have been able to catch up. To my knowledge, this has only ever happened once to I believe a Tiger aircraft as part of a test.
@@kainhall no it can't do that. You would have to fire all rounds simultaneously otherwise they will be scattered around due to the fact that each prior bullet will have had a longer and longer time for air resistance to alter their speed and you wouldn't end up with them all hitting at the same time. Perhaps if you gradually and precisely altered the planes speed constantly to keep them in a relative position to eachother, but that's next to impossible. And a bullet fired from a gun will always leave the aircraft faster than the aircraft is travelling due to conservation of momentum. Even then, the bullets will all have a slightly different trajectory. You could not form a wall of bullets. They will fire at the spesific bullet speed + the airspeed of the aircraft.
"Physics has left the chat". A plane has shot itself down before but that's because it sped up and dove down after shooting the bullet. Before I watched this video I thought that might have been the case but no. For those who don't understand, the bullets should be travelling at an initial velocity equal to that of the velocity of a bullet coming out of a stationary object + the velocity of the object firing the bullet.
A plane can be hit by its own shots, it already happened before. It wont happen imediately as in the video, but with some delay until the bullets slow down.
How plane can faster than bullet this is not possible until we accelerate the plane after release bullets Bullet have already speed of plane Am i right? Pls tell
It's a bit complicated. A fighter jet in some situations can overtake its own bullets, and in one famous case shoot itself down. But the initial velocity should still be the sum of the plane's velocity and the muzzle velocity.
The only way it would happen irl, as you can see in the game is that the plane has to be accelerating very quickly… as I’m seen in this game has to be something like duplicating its speed per second … which is physically impossible right now…
@@DaCheeseIsEpicSubToHim It didn't look like this tho... nerd moment: That plane you're talking about was unlucky enough to continue flying under the trajectory of its own bullet. A projectile will always share any momentum with its parent object until fired and because law of conservation of mass and energy exists, the projectile remains in the same vector as it was fired after it leaves the parent object unless 1st newton law changes its vector properties.
@@DaCheeseIsEpicSubToHim i think that the plane in question shot while diving and then went for a deeper dive, the bullet's momentum like the guy that wants you to have sex with him said, made it spin downwards and hit the plane, that managed to surpass it
Reminds me of that one Op where i used the Mk41 VLS as a SAM-System and the Pilots just flew next to them because its Cruise Missiles only go like 600km/h.
No matter how fast you're traveling, the bullet's speed will always be additive equal to its muzzle velocity. So, if you're traveling at Mach 2, and you fire your bullets with a muzzle speed relative to the barrel at Mach 3, then the bullet speed relative to the earth is Mach 5. Yes, it does appear that there have been at least two cases where an aircraft shot itself down but that is the result of the bullet's trajectory and the bullets' drag slowing it down so much that the plane was able to connect back with the bullets. In one instance, an F11 Tiger, while flying at 880MPH was able to reconnect with the bullets. The bullets at impact were traveling at 400MPH. Despite the low velocity, the bullets still had enough kinetic energy to cause the plane to fail and ultimately land short of the runway.
That's only true at certain range of speed. Beyond that, either extremely fast (near speed of light) or extremely slow, newtonian physics isn't good enough. But then again, planes do not travel near speed of light so that is a good approximation.
@@jdoy11 Ok, you got me, but when I said no matter how fast you're traveling, I guess I didn't mean that literally, just as fast as you would practically travel in the earth's atmosphere, seeing as asteroids traveling at 30,000MPH don't fare well in the atmosphere and they're still moving inconsequentially slow compared to light.
@@jdoy11 Yes but even at near lightspeed the bullets you fire will never go back and hit you. They will always be a little bit faster than you, which appears to be a lot faster due to time dilation.
I will never not be angry that Unsung for no reason absolutely ruined every single one of their fixed winged aircraft. A-4 is wildly out of trim, A-6 lost the TGP (which before anyone says "historical accuracy" they had TGPs and TV guided missiles in Vietnam.), the A-1 is WILDLY under powered despite it being a well known dog fighter and Mig killer in Korea, and the F-4 target lock for missiles is botched. The only ones worth flying anymore are the Mig-21 and the F-100.
UNSUNG was always the hideous ugly duckling of big theme Arma 3 mods tbh. Always looked bad, propeller spin animation somehow incomprehensibly looked leagues worse than any other mod, and for some bizarre reason miniguns on UH1 gunships act like 30mm cannons with HE ammunition. You can literally fix this yourself in the editor in 5 minutes by swapping out the ammo in the init line to the M134 ammo in the vanilla game. Just get the DLC and/or the Air Cav Vietnam mod
i'm not sure if this has been fixed yet but last time i tried unsung most of the rotary wing aircraft's guages were flat non-functioning PNG's and just when you find a heli that has a detailed cockpit the guages don't function at all and all of a sudden your flying a squad in a huey, at night, no night vision, low above the jungle, with no indication of your attitude other than watching the altimeter
The first US supersonic fighter to shoot itself down was the Grumman F11F Tiger. It happened during testing in 1956 when it was doing a down angle strafing dive on a ship. Conflicting physics principles were involved, the trajectory of a projectile shot "downhill" and the requirements of pulling out of a dive from speed. Easy enough to find more info on this with a search. So yes, it can happen with the right circumstances.
A funky thing i just realised is that its not that the bullets are ignoring momentum its that they are not adding their own velocity. Thats why no matter what speed he goes the bullets just sorta look like their chilling up there with the plane.
@@yobob591 People who are software illiterate always assume that bugs are the result of incompetence or laziness. The fact is sometimes you just can't predict it.
Bombs drop at the same relative speed as the plane, then slow down due to air resistance. They aren't slower, they are dropped at the same speed. If you dropped a bomb in a dive and then induced thrust to the plane, you may be able to catch up to the bomb, as the bomb only has the intertidal speed of the plane when it was dropped and will gradually slow down to terminal velocity. The plane however being capable of thrust to surpass terminal velocity, does not. This is why rockets/missiles always travel faster than the plane. They use thrust to surpass the speed of the airplane they were released from as long as the rocket motors are powerful enough to overcome the current airspeed of the plane.
but what if you traveled so fast that you intercepted the light photons shot off in the past wouldn't you be moving backwards in space-time while viewing a reverse movie essentially? You're still interacting with the particles after all, but rather the light particles going into your eyes at the speed of light ... it's you bumping into the photons at the speed of light instead lmao. Your eye's visual receptors would still activate in this case.
Theres actually an idea to use alot of gun in plane for infantry support. That was tu2 hedgehog,the idea was to put 88 ppsh 41 on a tu 2 ,you can take a look at the plane in google
This actually happened during the Cold War I think it was Russian but could have been American where they fired the guns and the bullets weren't fast enough so it ended up damaging the front of the body of the plane causing it to have to take an emergency landing
Well, that's impossible, unless the bullets are designed to brake massively using air resistance. If the plane is flying at, let's say, 500km/h, and the exit velocity of the bullets are something as low as 100km/h, the actual speed of the bullets will be 600km/h. They'll always be flying faster than the plane. But, it certainly looks cool in this game=P
The reverse case of this is the Ja-37 Viggen having a insane muzzle velocity, the jet in supersonic travel + the muzzle velocity had the extreme speed which was like 1400m/s or something insane. 30mm too, same diameter size as the A-10 rounds. One of the most powerful aircraft guns with a special proxy fuze round with high amounts of HE filler. Almost like minengeshotz
@@gogokowaithat's not how physics work, when you fire anything from a plane it's always faster than the plane, at least for the first few seconds. The developers obviously forgot to add the speed of the plane to the projectiles.
@@reio4641 I didn't say the video had accurate physics, I said fighter jets are faster than bullets fired from hand guns. I'm aware that rounds fired from a high speed fighter jet travel faster than the jet after firing. I was implying that a bullet dropped from a fighter jet without firing it would be moving faster than if it was fired from a stationary hand gun. It would quickly lose speed and be inaccurate due to not having the correct spin, but for a moment it would have even more momentum than it would if it was fired normally on the ground. The opposite is also true. If you were high enough off the ground to reach a jet travelling at top speed (they can't reach top speed close to the ground due to air pressure), you could simply drop a bullet on the jet and do more damage than if you fired the same bullet from your hand gun at a landed jet.
@gogokowai It's honestly sad that more people liked his comment than yours. I found your comment perfectly clear, while he clearly completely misunderstood it
Completely different scenario, but reminded me of that time when a buddy of mine was playing Silent Hunter 3, launched one of the torpedoes that go into searching pattern if they miss their target and somehow ran into it and sank
Take it from someone who worked on F-111s for 18 months: The gun was mounted in the weapons bay, which was right under the avionics bays. Firing the gun caused so much vibration that it caused the avionics boxes to go haywire. We were directed to remove the gun.
Planes have shot themselves out of the sky on a number of occasions with their guns, pulling a steep dive after a burst. Bullets loose enough speed and the plane picks up enough that they eventually meet. Not as dramatically as seeming to stop dead like this, but still wildly impressive it is even possible for real.
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Haha, only sensible comment I've seen! People talking about as if this is a bug or failure of devs. In reality, devs of course know about physics, but they probably did some trade-off by keeping the bullet speed constant.
The velocity of the aircraft is added to the muzzle velocity of the bullets. Thus, if the gun has a muzzle velocity of 1050 m/s (typical for the 20mm M61 Vulcan), and the plane is flying at 700 knots (388 m/s)--pretty close to the maximum at low level--the bullets will have an initial velocity of 1050 + 388 = 1438 m/s. From the perspective of relative motion, the bullets still leave the plane at the same muzzle velocity they would have if the plane were standing still. Of course, the bullets begin to decelerate as soon as they leave the barrel of the gun, while the plane can continue (in theory) to fly at 388 m/s indefinitely. So, gradually, the rate at which the bullets are moving away from the plane will diminish, and, ultimately, the bullets will slow sufficiently that the plane will begin to overtake them. In the real world, this can't happen, because the bullets are also dropping at 10 m/sec/sec, and they will hit the ground long before the plane overtakes them. In the famous case of the F11F-1 Tiger that shot itself down, the bullets were initially fired at a target at high altitude, after which the F11F dove down to lower altitude, exceeding Mach 1 in the process, intercepting the parabolic trajectory of the bullets as they descended to earth.
@@CasuallyYobudwilson He's literally just using addition and some numbers you can probably get off of google. Not saying he isn't smart or anything but this is hardly as complex as you think it is.
At a certain speed where the muzzle velocity of the bullet would be miniscule and the loss of kinetic energy from the friction of the air could make this look more feasible. Should I run some calculations on present military weapons to find the appropriate speed the aircraft has to go to achieve this?
There was a case of a US test jet firing its gun and then going into a high speed dive. It managed to catch up to and collide with the bullets it had just fired. I don’t remember if the plane was actually shot down by the damage. Though there was an F-14 that was speared by its own missile when the thing suddenly pitched vertical on launch.
Actually with a missile this is possible. The missile doesnt get shot from the aircraft, but instead gets dropped like a bomb, after which it ignites its own thruster. If the jet is moving at a high enough speed, in theory the air resistance plus jet engine can be greater than inertia plus missile engine. So the missile drops and instantly falls behind, then fires its engine and then not be fast enough to get infront of the jet Please correct me if i got something wrong
You are mostly right, but this doesn't apply to all missile types. Missiles designed to be fired from bays mostly follow the behaviour you described but the highest performance wing-tip mounted short range missiles like the Sidewinder fire directly off the rail. This is because they are designed for quick snapshots in a dogfight and the time dropping it out and waiting for it to ignite means the target may already be off bore. Also in terms of not being fast enough to get in front of the jet, most Air to Air missiles are 2-4x faster than even a full afterburning plane.
@@SpaceShipDee thats totally true, and yea i figured that some would already fire before being released. And the missile being about 2x-4x faster is obviously also true, no military in the world would use a missile that could shoot down their own plane🤣 I was just speaking hypothetically
the bullets be still as fast as the plane even if they don't get any velocity by firing as velocity of an object w.r.t ground is equal to the velocity of object w.r.t platform plus velocity of platform w.r.t ground and it is like the question we use to do in kinematics where a body is dropped from an ascending balloon or helicopter and that body acquires the same velocity as of the balloon or helicopter , this type of scenario would only make sense if jet has a constant acceleration and the bombs are falling with 0 velocity w.r.t to the jet and only acquiring the velocity of jet w.r.t ground
@@samuelebaiano6505 Because it floods you with outputs too quickly or what? I've honestly never used it I've just seen people say you can get it to write "full functioning" code for you lol
@@sixten7920 full function code, but it doesnt function how you want it to and it does weird shit. It also sometimes just cuts off it’s own code, weird ai
@@bryanmckeithen899 if you're sitting still and some vehicle passes you at faster than the speed of light, you'll never see it coming. Then when it passes you, you'll see the most recently generated reflections from it followed by earlier and earlier light, as that light catches up
there was an instance where a pilot was hit by his own bullets. Normally impossible but if you aim up a bit then go down, the bullet will slow down from air friction and hit your own plane
A supersonic jet shot itsself down years ago. Fired a burst, then went into a steep dive then pulled up. A few of the bullets hit the plane. It crashed and pilot was fine.
This has actually happened to some jets in real life during a dive bomb. The bullets caught up to the jet as it began to pull up and slow down and the jet technically ended up shooting itself. Was a very confusing experience for the pilot who thought another jet was shooting at them.
But wouldn't the bullets be still as fast as the plane even if they don't get any velocity by firing as velocity of an object w.r.t ground is equal to the velocity of object w.r.t platform plus velocity of platform w.r.t ground and it is like the question we use to do in kinematics where a body is dropped from an ascending balloon or helicopter and that body acquires the same velocity as of the balloon or helicopter , this type of scenario would only make sense if jet has a constant acceleration and the bombs are falling with 0 velocity w.r.t to the jet and only acquiring the velocity of jet w.r.t ground
@@kronos3912 nonono ok the whole story is wrong. The F-11 fired its cannons and entered a light dive. after a while it pulled up, as it did the slowed bullets from drag hit the F-11. It wasn't a dive bomb
It’s because Arma armor penetration is simplified, the projectile just has a penetration value and has nothing to do with how fast the round is actually going
Reminds me of the x-02 Wyvern from Ace Combat..so fast that you out ran your own missiles and at some point when fired...they would just drop and trail behind you..(which wasn't bad, because enemies would often see you pass them and not even realize you had your own missiles trailing behind you and they'd get hit rather easily as a result..)
The SR71 blackbird was insanely fast at insanely high altitudes. It had thousands of surface to air missiles launched at it by hostile forces throughout its operational history, and its defense was to simply speed up and outrun the missiles. The missiles wouldn't be fast enough to catch up with it. Not a single SR71 was shot by a missile.
The real advantage is the combination of high altitude and speed. If the SR-71 was flying low, a missile could catch up to it before it ran out of fuel. Most missiles are faster than aircraft (the S-200 was capable of mach 8 and was only introduced one year after the SR-71). A simpler solution would be to hit the plane from the front; that way, the missile wouldn't even need to be faster than it. The SR-71 never officially operated within Soviet airspace. If it had, it could probably be shot down by an S-200.
Since sr-71 was flying only above satellite countries and those didn't want to risk shooting down American spy plane (here in Czechia our mig-23 got sr-71 on sights once and jokingly requested permission to fire on it and everyone on ground freaked out just from the idea and immediately told him to not dare so), I'm in doubt who exactly was supposed to fire those THOUSANDS missiles... Antiaircraft missiles are expensive as well and thousands of them would be entire stock of them of country of size of USA or Russia...
But wouldn't the bullets be still as fast as the plane even if they don't get any velocity by firing as velocity of an object w.r.t ground is equal to the velocity of object w.r.t platform plus velocity of platform w.r.t ground and it is like the question we use to do in kinematics where a body is dropped from an ascending balloon or helicopter and that body acquires the same velocity as of the balloon or helicopter , this type of scenario would only make sense if jet has a constant acceleration and the bombs are falling with 0 velocity w.r.t to the jet and only acquiring the velocity of jet w.r.t ground
The laws of physics says an object in motion stays in motion but the fact the bullets are slower even while maintaining the same speed as the plane itself is a mystery. At this point you might as well become the ammunition
def ask_for_response(total): while True: response = input("Menu: What do you want to do? Give a sign(ie. +,-,*,/): Give 1 to print result and continue; Give 2 to exit: ") if total == 0 and response in ('+', '-', '*', '/'): a = int(input("Give your first number: ")) b = int(input("Give your second number: ")) return response, a, b elif response == "1": print(f"Your current total is: {total}") continue elif response == "2": print(f"Final total is: {total}") break elif response in ('+', '-', '*', '/') and total != 0: a = total b = int(input(f"Your first number is: {total} Give your second number: ")) return response, a, b else: print("Invalid response") return None, None, None def add(num1, num2): return num1 + num2 def subtract(num1, num2): return num1 - num2 def multiply(num1, num2): return num1 * num2 def divide(num1, num2): if num2 != 0: return num1 / num2 else: print("Invalid division.") return None total = 0 a = 0 b = 0 while True: response, a, b = ask_for_response(total) if response is None: continue if response == "+": total = add(a, b) elif response == "-": total = subtract(a, b) elif response == "*": total = multiply(a, b) elif response == "/": result = divide(a, b) if result is not None: total = result
"Sir, did you call in a bombing run or a gun strafe?"
" *Yes* "
ahahahahahahahahh
bombing strafe/gun run
@@kiousuke2897 I always said gun run even before seeing such an explosive joke
Fuckin dead, my guy! Lmao XD
a bombing strafe, duh
Reminds me of the X-Com flight game. The final missile has a max speed slower than the ship it's fired from, so if you fired it off at max speed you'd run into it and explode.
Xenonauts is a great game for anyone who likes the old xcom games
@@apastafarian5051 Never thought I would see a comment about xenonaut here
Truly an underated game
@@cpp3221 waiting for the 3-d remake of Xenonuts
X-Com Interceptor?
@@KimFareseed Yeah that's the one!
It seems the momentum from the plane doesn't go in to the projectile's speed calculation.
Tbh, there were multiple occasions when Jet hit itself by being faster than its own bullets.
@@wolfheardt4169 But that only happened when the bullets traveled long enough for the speed of the bullets slowed down due to atmospheric drag. The bullet travels out of the barrels at the speed of the platform plus what it receives from the explosive actually pushing the round. The bullet travels a distance before it starts slowing down due to friction with the air, while the aircraft has a continuing thrust with it's engines. The bullets original thrust is all the energy it will receive, so it's speed at the end of the barrel is it's fastest speed.
Another weird thing, are these rounds subsonic ?
It does though for door guns on helos or the AC-47 Spooky.
@@willianyano8596 No, they usually move at 1000~ m/s, and the sound barrier is broken if an object moves faster than 350~ m/s (at 0 meters of altitude and at 20 degrees C°)
Fun fact: In the Megadrive version of the game "F-117 Night Storm", if you press the button to switch weapons at the exact right moment of firing/launching something, the weapon you fired will inherit the physics of whatever weapon you switched to. It was possible to have heat-seeking 1000lb bombs chasing down MiG-29s, as well as dropping precision-guided 30mm cannon shells onto bunkers, with varying effectiveness.
nice
guided ammo??
@@XxMrsalsatenangoxX modern flak guns use guided ammo
@@Lux_1138 imagine flak 128 guided
I played the hell out of that game. I think I ran across that glitch a couple times.
“Remember, switching to your plane is always faster than reloading”
This one got the hardiest laugh outta me lol
Ohhh my goodness, I'm rolling over the floor and laughing 🤭🤭
Thank you, Gaz. Not sure how helpful that'll be though.
Underrated comment 😂😂😂
*laughs hysterically in imperial japan*
- Pilot: "it's done sir, I've dropped the bullets and I'm about to fire the bomb"
- General: "wait, you did what?!"
Tbh it should actually be the wizo firing the bombs. And before anyone asks, yes I'm really fun at parties and stuff.
@@angelsfallfirst7348 are you really fun at parties and stuff?
Oh.
@@angelsfallfirst7348 actually a wizo does not pickle they use laser but the pilot pickles
@@ethannguyen4508 Aha
I'm gonna make this unperfect coz I'm gonna put this to 700 likes
"The plane didn't shoot bullets"
"But bullets shoot the plane"
made me read that with a Russian accent
@@adrianbarreto4225 bro fr
The bullets gave the plan the little boost it needed
@@adrianbarreto4225 in Mother Russia:
Planes doesn't shoot bullets
Bullets shoot planes🇷🇺🇷🇺
"Bullets shoot planes" you heard it here first folk's.
Reminds me of how this was a problem in Tribes Ascend and hows the devs adamantly refused, for a long time at least, to acknowledge that projectiles should inherit the velocity of their shooter in a game where you can routinely move faster than your own bullets.
Whoa the inheritance was a huge part of aiming in tribes ascend. How did Hi-Rez do it before that got added in?
@@CptGinyu Nothing I believe. If you went slightly too fast your discs and grenades would just fly out of your arse.
but that's not realistic... a rifle bullet is faster than most jets, except maybe some russian ones and maybe the sr71.. there might be faster ICBMs, but jets? nah.
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Or Planetside 2
"I must kill fast, but bullets too slow" -A legend
Consecuences
300 reference lmao
- the moment(s) that we live for
John Freeman
Tsun zu
Gotta respect a gun that ignores it's own momentum. That's one step closer to inter-dimensional exploration...
Can't help but wonder if there is some way to generate zero point energy here.
@@SlimThrull
Are you roasting him?
LOL
war thunder is a pile of s
@@cagneybillingsley2165 Wth nothing here is related to war thunder at all.
I remember doing this in 90s flight games. Thought it was the funniest shit ever.
You don't have to outsmart boolet if you can outrun boolet.
Love the tf2 reference
Boolet
Sandvich
says every scout main ever
@@崔莱 right before dying to a heavy
when game devs don't know isaac newton
Nah, the bullets just have tiny little parachutes
Gotta get some of that secret bullet become bomb nano-parachute tech.
No it’s just arma
And flares for color
that sounds cute
2022 comment of the year goes to this guy
Doesn't this mean that you could find a critical speed at which you perfectly match the speed of your bullets, and create a gigantic patch of lead?
AERIAL VOLLEY
*"The birds had enough of the humans shit"*
Nah the bullets still would slow down way faster becouse of air resistance. Unless you instantly pop flaps, turn off the engine, extend the airbrakes you will outrun the bullets.
I like the wall of lead use idea. Very nice.
yes. 0.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 c . Or you could just make a clump of lead that would be way easier.
No. The bullets will always jump out in front of the plane and slow down and drop with air resistane and gravity. You could theoretically run into your bullets since the aircraft has thrust and the bullets don't.
with that sort of physics the bullet shouldn't even be out of the barrel
The last 10 are still in the barrel, the ones you saw just got pushed out.
@@buddhaman001LOL
@@buddhaman001 good point lol, just chambering rounds really fast
@@buddhaman001 true
no shit
The guns are so powerful they overpower the law of conservation of momentum
Several jets historically have actually shot themselves down with their own fire.
But this seems like the dev messed up on the ballistic calculations for the velocity of the bullets by forgetting to account for the speed of the aircraft, and how it should effect the trajectory.
There is a WW2 American Torpedo/Bomber that armed and released its incendiary bombs However unknown to the pilot when landing on the carrier later his last 11kg bomb started to burn out "Lava" what looked like the engine melting onto the flight deck..Next time you watch .. Carrier crashs and failures Keep a eye out for it
yes.... but you need to fly in a certain pattern for that to happen
@@kainhall The point is while the game is obviously wildly messed up in it's physics simulation it's actually not as impossible as you may think
One jet has*
It went into a dive, fired subsonic ammunition and then put on afterburners in the dive. The plane was then able to surpass the speed of the subsonic bullets and initial inertia of the plane as the bullets slowed down due to air resistance, enough for the plane with thrust to catch up.
Had he fired rockets or missiles with powerful rocket motors producing thrust, he wouldn't have been able to catch up.
To my knowledge, this has only ever happened once to I believe a Tiger aircraft as part of a test.
@@kainhall no it can't do that. You would have to fire all rounds simultaneously otherwise they will be scattered around due to the fact that each prior bullet will have had a longer and longer time for air resistance to alter their speed and you wouldn't end up with them all hitting at the same time. Perhaps if you gradually and precisely altered the planes speed constantly to keep them in a relative position to eachother, but that's next to impossible. And a bullet fired from a gun will always leave the aircraft faster than the aircraft is travelling due to conservation of momentum. Even then, the bullets will all have a slightly different trajectory. You could not form a wall of bullets.
They will fire at the spesific bullet speed + the airspeed of the aircraft.
Imagine flying by the enemy and they’re like “Ha you missed”
And your like “Just wait, I shot you 5 minutes ago” 😂
"I threw that shit before I walked in the room"
@@nitrocharge2404 this is the comment
"Omae wa mou shindeiru."
"Nani?!"
I am the reconnaissance sniper! Ooahhhhh…
i sniped you 20 minutes ago!
Heavy: I would like to meet who can outsmart a bullet.
This pilot:
Yes
Gold comment
physics developer of this game didnt kno that bullet speed will add to plane speed at the same time. 😄
@@akoment2375nerd
pootis
UA-cam: *sees jet*
UA-cam: *WAR THUNDER*
Did u know the game?
@@B737Ryanair its arma
@@B737Ryanair Arma 3
Thx
This is like your train of thought speeding vs. speaking it out loud.
"DDdrrrRRrrrRrRRrr"
“Has a fucking seizure on the pedestal”
Why is that so accurate...
This deserves a lot more likes
Can someone explain what this comment means? Am i an idiot for not understanding this sentence
me when i see that: "Is That a bombing run or a jet outrunning its own bullets?"
the jet: *"yes"*
Reminds me of when in World War 1 they'd drop buckets of darts out of planes
@@Thaddeus2007 yes
"Call in a bombing run!"
"Which button was it?"
"JUST PRESS THEM ALL!"
"sir, i don't think this is right..."
Poteto-Potato.
@@varuug pututu
"WHAT'S RIGHT OR WRONG DOESN'T MATTER!"
"Sir, I wasn't talking about morality."
Lol, this breaks the laws of physics. The way this game is showing it, the aircraft is dropping bullets, not firing them.
How the fuck did you manage that? Did you swap the gunpowder with fucking sparklers?
yes
Yeah that's just ARMA Physics acting up...
@@cnlbenmc e...
@@cnlbenmc yeah but ffs
@@cnlbenmc what do you mean playing up? This is just standard arma
"Physics has left the chat". A plane has shot itself down before but that's because it sped up and dove down after shooting the bullet. Before I watched this video I thought that might have been the case but no. For those who don't understand, the bullets should be travelling at an initial velocity equal to that of the velocity of a bullet coming out of a stationary object + the velocity of the object firing the bullet.
Thank you for bestowing upon us your great wisdom..
@@isaacjacobs4397 what's your problem?
@@goku445 idk, what's yours
A plane can be hit by its own shots, it already happened before. It wont happen imediately as in the video, but with some delay until the bullets slow down.
@@goku445 he didnt say anything. Whats ur problem
*Newton has entered the chat
Newton has left the chat
Newton was here
Newton: *Offline 1m ago*
Newton: *Found Dead in his home*
conservation of momentum: aight, I'm out
Finally
we have met one who can outsmart bullet
*sad russian noises*
hoovy
Heavy weapons guy
Erm, he's outspeeding bullet, the only thing he's out smarting is the 3rd law of physics.
@@alexandrefillot9600 "only"
software engineers in colleges: "I hate physics classes"
*use wrong reference frame when they develop games*
How plane can faster than bullet this is not possible until we accelerate the plane after release bullets
Bullet have already speed of plane
Am i right? Pls tell
@@Rinkeshkumarsinghh Because it's not coded in the right way ingame
@@nigel9907 programmer skipped physics in college
It's a bit complicated. A fighter jet in some situations can overtake its own bullets, and in one famous case shoot itself down. But the initial velocity should still be the sum of the plane's velocity and the muzzle velocity.
@@TDOBrandano yes, only in DIVES where it GAINS more velocity.
physics went for lunchbreak
Nah, it does happen irl, and an incident about it too.
@@Aptol it does happen but not immediately after bullet is fired
@@Hhh-j4b Exactly, inertia would start the projectiles at a higher speed than the plane
The only way it would happen irl, as you can see in the game is that the plane has to be accelerating very quickly… as I’m seen in this game has to be something like duplicating its speed per second … which is physically impossible right now…
@@mataloce It's travelling faster than the speed of sound.
Well momentum just stopped working, everything's gonna fly off the planet in five seconds
Gotta love broken video game physics
theres actually a plane that shot it self because of the bullets being slower than the plane
@@DaCheeseIsEpicSubToHim It didn't look like this tho... nerd moment: That plane you're talking about was unlucky enough to continue flying under the trajectory of its own bullet. A projectile will always share any momentum with its parent object until fired and because law of conservation of mass and energy exists, the projectile remains in the same vector as it was fired after it leaves the parent object unless 1st newton law changes its vector properties.
@@novelaformeI fuckin love physics
@@DaCheeseIsEpicSubToHim i think that the plane in question shot while diving and then went for a deeper dive, the bullet's momentum like the guy that wants you to have sex with him said, made it spin downwards and hit the plane, that managed to surpass it
@@DaCheeseIsEpicSubToHim the F-11 Tiger?
Reminds me of that one Op where i used the Mk41 VLS as a SAM-System and the Pilots just flew next to them because its Cruise Missiles only go like 600km/h.
No matter how fast you're traveling, the bullet's speed will always be additive equal to its muzzle velocity. So, if you're traveling at Mach 2, and you fire your bullets with a muzzle speed relative to the barrel at Mach 3, then the bullet speed relative to the earth is Mach 5. Yes, it does appear that there have been at least two cases where an aircraft shot itself down but that is the result of the bullet's trajectory and the bullets' drag slowing it down so much that the plane was able to connect back with the bullets. In one instance, an F11 Tiger, while flying at 880MPH was able to reconnect with the bullets. The bullets at impact were traveling at 400MPH. Despite the low velocity, the bullets still had enough kinetic energy to cause the plane to fail and ultimately land short of the runway.
That's only true at certain range of speed. Beyond that, either extremely fast (near speed of light) or extremely slow, newtonian physics isn't good enough. But then again, planes do not travel near speed of light so that is a good approximation.
@@jdoy11 Ok, you got me, but when I said no matter how fast you're traveling, I guess I didn't mean that literally, just as fast as you would practically travel in the earth's atmosphere, seeing as asteroids traveling at 30,000MPH don't fare well in the atmosphere and they're still moving inconsequentially slow compared to light.
Awesome comment, super enlightening/thought-provoking
(Only galileanly speaking!!)
@@jdoy11 Yes but even at near lightspeed the bullets you fire will never go back and hit you. They will always be a little bit faster than you, which appears to be a lot faster due to time dilation.
"Sir, he seems to be droping bombs from far aw-"
"RUN, PRIVATE!!"
“Drop the bullets!”
“You Mean the bombs sir?”
“DID I STUTTER?”
It looks like they are just dropping the bullets like mini bombs 😂
@UruMayBePro AN OMEN
It's actually kind of smart it would of won ww1
@@Antcubino it wouldn't it would be worse than just shooting targets with bullets
Aren't these flares which are supposed to explode the missile before hitting the aircraft
thats not even how dropping bomb works
I will never not be angry that Unsung for no reason absolutely ruined every single one of their fixed winged aircraft. A-4 is wildly out of trim, A-6 lost the TGP (which before anyone says "historical accuracy" they had TGPs and TV guided missiles in Vietnam.), the A-1 is WILDLY under powered despite it being a well known dog fighter and Mig killer in Korea, and the F-4 target lock for missiles is botched. The only ones worth flying anymore are the Mig-21 and the F-100.
L bozo
arma 3 is not even close to a sim for planes so don't expect realism. As the other guy said, play DCS if you want realism
@Robert S I downloaded dcs recently and I suck at the game 🤣 but it's a really fun just flying around, jets sound insane
UNSUNG was always the hideous ugly duckling of big theme Arma 3 mods tbh.
Always looked bad, propeller spin animation somehow incomprehensibly looked leagues worse than any other mod, and for some bizarre reason miniguns on UH1 gunships act like 30mm cannons with HE ammunition. You can literally fix this yourself in the editor in 5 minutes by swapping out the ammo in the init line to the M134 ammo in the vanilla game.
Just get the DLC and/or the Air Cav Vietnam mod
i'm not sure if this has been fixed yet but last time i tried unsung most of the rotary wing aircraft's guages were flat non-functioning PNG's and just when you find a heli that has a detailed cockpit the guages don't function at all and all of a sudden your flying a squad in a huey, at night, no night vision, low above the jungle, with no indication of your attitude other than watching the altimeter
The first US supersonic fighter to shoot itself down was the Grumman F11F Tiger. It happened during testing in 1956 when it was doing a down angle strafing dive on a ship. Conflicting physics principles were involved, the trajectory of a projectile shot "downhill" and the requirements of pulling out of a dive from speed. Easy enough to find more info on this with a search. So yes, it can happen with the right circumstances.
A funky thing i just realised is that its not that the bullets are ignoring momentum its that they are not adding their own velocity. Thats why no matter what speed he goes the bullets just sorta look like their chilling up there with the plane.
Probably modded game with bullet initial velocity set to 0. Because it is no way dev implemented momentum but forgot about bullet inital velocity.
@@last8exile nah this is a bug, because exactly that happened- devs are human too and sometimes make goofy mistakes
@@yobob591 People who are software illiterate always assume that bugs are the result of incompetence or laziness. The fact is sometimes you just can't predict it.
@@AlexanderNashyou meant devs can't predict it logically right? Ooops sorry my bad
@@LuqmanHMbro try typing 18 million lines of code and tell me you can predict it’s ALL correct with ABSOLUTELY NO BUG
oh man, how things have changed. back in the day, we used to call slower than the aircraft bullets, bombs.
HaHa Max 5 Star Tactical Bullet Rain go bRRrRrRrR
Bombs drop at the same relative speed as the plane, then slow down due to air resistance. They aren't slower, they are dropped at the same speed.
If you dropped a bomb in a dive and then induced thrust to the plane, you may be able to catch up to the bomb, as the bomb only has the intertidal speed of the plane when it was dropped and will gradually slow down to terminal velocity. The plane however being capable of thrust to surpass terminal velocity, does not.
This is why rockets/missiles always travel faster than the plane. They use thrust to surpass the speed of the airplane they were released from as long as the rocket motors are powerful enough to overcome the current airspeed of the plane.
@@soggybiscotti8425 i think you may need to search the term sarcasm and I promise I'll do my homework on bombs and bullets and their differences !
@@oopsioded you may also like to look into the definition of sarcasm while you are at it.
@@soggybiscotti8425 you may as well want to though.....
"The problem of being faster the light is that you can only live in darkness"
Tf 🤣🤣
but what if you traveled so fast that you intercepted the light photons shot off in the past wouldn't you be moving backwards in space-time while viewing a reverse movie essentially? You're still interacting with the particles after all, but rather the light particles going into your eyes at the speed of light ... it's you bumping into the photons at the speed of light instead lmao. Your eye's visual receptors would still activate in this case.
Nope.
The light from the front would still light u...except it might light u up instead.
A bullet can go 3000 kmh but a F-111 can go 2550 only and if my eyes are correct that plane is a F-111
Bullets? Nah, small, large quantity tactical bombs
Assault flares
For sci-fi films where a military base is forced to fight the whole army of an ancient nation
Theres actually an idea to use alot of gun in plane for infantry support. That was tu2 hedgehog,the idea was to put 88 ppsh 41 on a tu 2 ,you can take a look at the plane in google
@@Yourlocalhuman8 “Assault flares” 💀
Tactical? They’re literally glowing , so small large quantity assault glowsticks
Clearly this plane has never heard about something called physics.
A fighter pilot once fired his gun while passing the date line, and the bullets did not arrive until the next day.
Nice one
This actually happened during the Cold War I think it was Russian but could have been American where they fired the guns and the bullets weren't fast enough so it ended up damaging the front of the body of the plane causing it to have to take an emergency landing
Well, that's impossible, unless the bullets are designed to brake massively using air resistance. If the plane is flying at, let's say, 500km/h, and the exit velocity of the bullets are something as low as 100km/h, the actual speed of the bullets will be 600km/h. They'll always be flying faster than the plane. But, it certainly looks cool in this game=P
It's certainly possible though ; just drop your bullets like little bombs and don't fire them !
@@Noaxsette You got me there, dude! hehe
Unless near velocity of light.
Well there was a plane that shot itself down
@@winter2934 you know how that happened though, right?
The reverse case of this is the Ja-37 Viggen having a insane muzzle velocity, the jet in supersonic travel + the muzzle velocity had the extreme speed which was like 1400m/s or something insane. 30mm too, same diameter size as the A-10 rounds. One of the most powerful aircraft guns with a special proxy fuze round with high amounts of HE filler. Almost like minengeshotz
Near orbital speeds 💀
I bet itd fit perfectly in a human anus
@@arandomcommenter412 gun runs on the ISS
fuckin shit that's a big gun
That's only close to orbital velocity in KSP, earth's orbital velocity is nearly 8 km/s
Imagine being so fast that you don't even need to fire the bullets, you just drop them
Fighter jets are faster than bullets fired from hand guns, you don't have to imagine it.
@@gogokowaithat's not how physics work, when you fire anything from a plane it's always faster than the plane, at least for the first few seconds. The developers obviously forgot to add the speed of the plane to the projectiles.
@@reio4641 I didn't say the video had accurate physics, I said fighter jets are faster than bullets fired from hand guns.
I'm aware that rounds fired from a high speed fighter jet travel faster than the jet after firing. I was implying that a bullet dropped from a fighter jet without firing it would be moving faster than if it was fired from a stationary hand gun. It would quickly lose speed and be inaccurate due to not having the correct spin, but for a moment it would have even more momentum than it would if it was fired normally on the ground.
The opposite is also true. If you were high enough off the ground to reach a jet travelling at top speed (they can't reach top speed close to the ground due to air pressure), you could simply drop a bullet on the jet and do more damage than if you fired the same bullet from your hand gun at a landed jet.
@gogokowai It's honestly sad that more people liked his comment than yours. I found your comment perfectly clear, while he clearly completely misunderstood it
@@waldolemmer fr
This video could be called, when you forget that momentum is a vector.
Pilot: hey john look, the enemies can't hit us if we're faster than their bullet.
John: dude wat?
The pilot:
U.S Airforce: damn planes are expensive to maintain
U.S pilot: brrr so fun
What even is conserved momentum. (I know it's just a game)
isaac newton isn't on the dev team :/
What game is this
@@rogue__agent5884 arma 3 Vietnam dlc
even without conserved momentum the rounds should still be a lot quicker than what the plane is going here.
@@Youngstonex thx
It could be the tracers glow and not the actual rounds
you missed the chance to fly the exact same speed and watch them fall straight down
Completely different scenario, but reminded me of that time when a buddy of mine was playing Silent Hunter 3, launched one of the torpedoes that go into searching pattern if they miss their target and somehow ran into it and sank
bro is dropping the bullets instead of firing them
"Too fast for guns. Switching to plane."
Faster than a bullet
Terrifying scream
Enraged and full of anger
He is half man and half machine
Take it from someone who worked on F-111s for 18 months: The gun was mounted in the weapons bay, which was right under the avionics bays. Firing the gun caused so much vibration that it caused the avionics boxes to go haywire. We were directed to remove the gun.
We don't believe you. Can you leak classified military documents to prove your point?
It's literally like you're dropping glowsticks out of a really loud bomb bay.
No one's ever tried it. Could be devastating.
so we decided that bullets should be dropped in bomb bays now?
Planes have shot themselves out of the sky on a number of occasions with their guns, pulling a steep dive after a burst. Bullets loose enough speed and the plane picks up enough that they eventually meet. Not as dramatically as seeming to stop dead like this, but still wildly impressive it is even possible for real.
*A plane has shot itself. It was a single occurence with a single plane. It was a super specific occurence during testing too
Imagine nose diving after this, your bullets tear you throw the middle XD
Shoot the FFAR rockets from the UNSUNG Redux A-4 Skyhawk, the rockets shoot straight down
"you see Ivan, bullets go down in fear of shooting your plane"
That moment when you realize you're not in a highly realistic military simulation...
*Copium*
This isn't an issue with arma. It's an issue with the modder who made this
@@nickowen7406 is joke...
Eh, good enough.
This world is rapidly passing away and I hope that you repent and take time to change before all out disaster occurs! Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36) if you believed in Messiah you would be following His commands as best as you could. If you are not a follower of Messiah I would highly recommend becoming one. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life - Revelation 3:20.
Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13 over the course of 1260+ years. Revelation 17 confirms that the beast is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God.
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I want to see the exact speed where you can stack all the rounds into one massive boom when they all hit at once
AERIAL VOLLEY
*"The birds had enough of the humans' shit"*
You’d have to have variable bullet speed or you’d need to fire all bullets at once, in which case the speed of the gun wouldn’t matter.
@@bryanmckeithen899 No?
@@bryanmckeithen899 do you mean seed of the aircraft?
This world is rapidly passing away and I hope that you repent and take time to change before all out disaster occurs! Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36) if you believed in Messiah you would be following His commands as best as you could. If you are not a follower of Messiah I would highly recommend becoming one. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life - Revelation 3:20.
Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13 over the course of 1260+ years. Revelation 17 confirms that the beast is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God.
Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc. Have a blessed day!
Imagine being the enemy, you think they overshot you and then this happens
Arma 3 developers be like
: uh.... Lets just ignore it
more accurate title: "when you figure out that your simulator is just a game"
Haha, only sensible comment I've seen! People talking about as if this is a bug or failure of devs. In reality, devs of course know about physics, but they probably did some trade-off by keeping the bullet speed constant.
Its an unfinished plane from a mod.
This should remain a feature and call it "historically accurate"
The velocity of the aircraft is added to the muzzle velocity of the bullets. Thus, if the gun has a muzzle velocity of 1050 m/s (typical for the 20mm M61 Vulcan), and the plane is flying at 700 knots (388 m/s)--pretty close to the maximum at low level--the bullets will have an initial velocity of 1050 + 388 = 1438 m/s. From the perspective of relative motion, the bullets still leave the plane at the same muzzle velocity they would have if the plane were standing still.
Of course, the bullets begin to decelerate as soon as they leave the barrel of the gun, while the plane can continue (in theory) to fly at 388 m/s indefinitely. So, gradually, the rate at which the bullets are moving away from the plane will diminish, and, ultimately, the bullets will slow sufficiently that the plane will begin to overtake them. In the real world, this can't happen, because the bullets are also dropping at 10 m/sec/sec, and they will hit the ground long before the plane overtakes them.
In the famous case of the F11F-1 Tiger that shot itself down, the bullets were initially fired at a target at high altitude, after which the F11F dove down to lower altitude, exceeding Mach 1 in the process, intercepting the parabolic trajectory of the bullets as they descended to earth.
Dude that's so impressive that I'm literally asking for you to do my homework 😭
@@CasuallyYobudwilson He's literally just using addition and some numbers you can probably get off of google. Not saying he isn't smart or anything but this is hardly as complex as you think it is.
@@kuhnville3145 Ik, I'm just being sarcastic
@@kuhnville3145 you do the who to the what now? Take your big city number witch craft back to new york with you and your jew buddies.
At a certain speed where the muzzle velocity of the bullet would be miniscule and the loss of kinetic energy from the friction of the air could make this look more feasible.
Should I run some calculations on present military weapons to find the appropriate speed the aircraft has to go to achieve this?
Do not slow down or alter course, there could be a possibility of shooting yourself down.
Holy shit its a reverse A-10
When you research everything on your jet but your guns XD
The Grumman F11 flew so fast that it actually managed to shoot itself down.
There was a case of a US test jet firing its gun and then going into a high speed dive. It managed to catch up to and collide with the bullets it had just fired. I don’t remember if the plane was actually shot down by the damage.
Though there was an F-14 that was speared by its own missile when the thing suddenly pitched vertical on launch.
Actually with a missile this is possible. The missile doesnt get shot from the aircraft, but instead gets dropped like a bomb, after which it ignites its own thruster. If the jet is moving at a high enough speed, in theory the air resistance plus jet engine can be greater than inertia plus missile engine. So the missile drops and instantly falls behind, then fires its engine and then not be fast enough to get infront of the jet
Please correct me if i got something wrong
You are mostly right, but this doesn't apply to all missile types.
Missiles designed to be fired from bays mostly follow the behaviour you described but the highest performance wing-tip mounted short range missiles like the Sidewinder fire directly off the rail. This is because they are designed for quick snapshots in a dogfight and the time dropping it out and waiting for it to ignite means the target may already be off bore.
Also in terms of not being fast enough to get in front of the jet, most Air to Air missiles are 2-4x faster than even a full afterburning plane.
@@SpaceShipDee thats totally true, and yea i figured that some would already fire before being released. And the missile being about 2x-4x faster is obviously also true, no military in the world would use a missile that could shoot down their own plane🤣 I was just speaking hypothetically
the bullets be still as fast as the plane even if they don't get any velocity by firing as velocity of an object w.r.t ground is equal to the velocity of object w.r.t platform plus velocity of platform w.r.t ground and it is like the question we use to do in kinematics where a body is dropped from an ascending balloon or helicopter and that body acquires the same velocity as of the balloon or helicopter , this type of scenario would only make sense if jet has a constant acceleration and the bombs are falling with 0 velocity w.r.t to the jet and only acquiring the velocity of jet w.r.t ground
Base: How much bullets can you make look like a bomb to scare the enemies away?
Him: *Yes*
when you are coding, but 90% is Stack Overflow, and the projectiles are your 10% actual program 😂
"Who coded this??"
"ChatGPT"
@@sixten7920 no, if you ask for a program, ChatGPT can only make your pc explode, trust me 😂
@@samuelebaiano6505 Because it floods you with outputs too quickly or what? I've honestly never used it I've just seen people say you can get it to write "full functioning" code for you lol
@@sixten7920 because it's bad lol
@@sixten7920 full function code, but it doesnt function how you want it to and it does weird shit. It also sometimes just cuts off it’s own code, weird ai
Congratulations you can outrun bullets you are successfully invincible to bullets
that's a pretty good way of visualizing vehicle moving faster than the speed of light. a passerby would see the vehicle moving backward.
Wouldn’t the person in the vehicle see the passerby moving backwards, while the person wouldn’t even see the vehicle at all?
@@bryanmckeithen899 if you're sitting still and some vehicle passes you at faster than the speed of light, you'll never see it coming. Then when it passes you, you'll see the most recently generated reflections from it followed by earlier and earlier light, as that light catches up
If a vehicle were moving faster than the speed of light, a passer by would not see it at all.
First divebombing paratroopers now this? You truly have become a pilot of legends.
there was an instance where a pilot was hit by his own bullets. Normally impossible but if you aim up a bit then go down, the bullet will slow down from air friction and hit your own plane
not quite...
Air friction. You are obviously a kid with no prior education in physics.
IRL???
@@kivsa85 yes irl
@@akanagama Holy jeezzz
A supersonic jet shot itsself down years ago. Fired a burst, then went into a steep dive then pulled up. A few of the bullets hit the plane. It crashed and pilot was fine.
This has actually happened to some jets in real life during a dive bomb. The bullets caught up to the jet as it began to pull up and slow down and the jet technically ended up shooting itself. Was a very confusing experience for the pilot who thought another jet was shooting at them.
But wouldn't the bullets be still as fast as the plane even if they don't get any velocity by firing as velocity of an object w.r.t ground is equal to the velocity of object w.r.t platform plus velocity of platform w.r.t ground and it is like the question we use to do in kinematics where a body is dropped from an ascending balloon or helicopter and that body acquires the same velocity as of the balloon or helicopter , this type of scenario would only make sense if jet has a constant acceleration and the bombs are falling with 0 velocity w.r.t to the jet and only acquiring the velocity of jet w.r.t ground
That plane was the grumman F-11 tiger
@@kronos3912 I believe the bullets were fired early in the dive so the jet gained speed and flew past the bullets.
@@kronos3912 nonono ok the whole story is wrong. The F-11 fired its cannons and entered a light dive. after a while it pulled up, as it did the slowed bullets from drag hit the F-11. It wasn't a dive bomb
You're right. But. What you're watching in the video are flares, not bullets.
Imagine slowing down a little and not moving out the way, and the bullets catch up with you.
That happened in real life once, really neat story, I'll see if I can remember the planes name
id always suspected this, as it always felt that ap round from planes didnt gain any more pen no matter how fast you went
It’s because Arma armor penetration is simplified, the projectile just has a penetration value and has nothing to do with how fast the round is actually going
Bro is bullet bombing
"Where's the fun if the bullets always goes faster than the plane?"
-Sun Tzu (art of war)
Reminds me of the x-02 Wyvern from Ace Combat..so fast that you out ran your own missiles and at some point when fired...they would just drop and trail behind you..(which wasn't bad, because enemies would often see you pass them and not even realize you had your own missiles trailing behind you and they'd get hit rather easily as a result..)
The SR71 blackbird was insanely fast at insanely high altitudes. It had thousands of surface to air missiles launched at it by hostile forces throughout its operational history, and its defense was to simply speed up and outrun the missiles. The missiles wouldn't be fast enough to catch up with it. Not a single SR71 was shot by a missile.
How do you get it
Well, they've been shot, just not hit by a missile
The real advantage is the combination of high altitude and speed. If the SR-71 was flying low, a missile could catch up to it before it ran out of fuel. Most missiles are faster than aircraft (the S-200 was capable of mach 8 and was only introduced one year after the SR-71). A simpler solution would be to hit the plane from the front; that way, the missile wouldn't even need to be faster than it.
The SR-71 never officially operated within Soviet airspace. If it had, it could probably be shot down by an S-200.
Since sr-71 was flying only above satellite countries and those didn't want to risk shooting down American spy plane (here in Czechia our mig-23 got sr-71 on sights once and jokingly requested permission to fire on it and everyone on ground freaked out just from the idea and immediately told him to not dare so), I'm in doubt who exactly was supposed to fire those THOUSANDS missiles... Antiaircraft missiles are expensive as well and thousands of them would be entire stock of them of country of size of USA or Russia...
The US did make a program to turn the A 12 (SR 71's forerunner) into an interceptor by mounting 3 AIM-47's onto the aircraft and calling it the YF 12
Bro is the bullet
How do the bullets come out of the gun barrel if they're not fast enough???
But wouldn't the bullets be still as fast as the plane even if they don't get any velocity by firing as velocity of an object w.r.t ground is equal to the velocity of object w.r.t platform plus velocity of platform w.r.t ground and it is like the question we use to do in kinematics where a body is dropped from an ascending balloon or helicopter and that body acquires the same velocity as of the balloon or helicopter , this type of scenario would only make sense if jet has a constant acceleration and the bombs are falling with 0 velocity w.r.t to the jet and only acquiring the velocity of jet w.r.t ground
Maybe they come out and then go back due to air resistance?
The laws of physics says an object in motion stays in motion but the fact the bullets are slower even while maintaining the same speed as the plane itself is a mystery. At this point you might as well become the ammunition
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sorry i pasted my calculator project by mistake but i don't wanna take it down
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That looks trippy as hell
I watched this without sound and I could hear Free Bird playing in the back of my head.