Aspiring Lawyer Does Unthinkable to Her Son | Shanda Vander Ark Case Analysis
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- Опубліковано 16 гру 2023
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Even when they fed them bread, it was soaked in that painful hot sauce. The prosecutor asked her if she would feed hot sauce to her dogs as punishment and she acted horrified and said of course not. But she clearly believes it was okay to do to her son? One of the saddest abuse cases I've every heard of. I don't understand how someone could be so cruel.
This reminds me of the Gabriel Fernandez case - where the mother & her boyfriend got custody of the 8 yr old boy for the welfare $$ & then tortured him to death in front of his 2 half siblings cuz they assumed he was gay (he had lived from birth with a loving gay uncle). There was a whole Netflix series about that case. I am curious to see why poor Timothy ever came under the care of that disgusting woman who happened to have given birth to him. As with young Gabriel, the people who did so meted out his death sentebce
@@loraglick5745 I recall hearing legally he was never allowed to be left with her.
@@nadinewhite993 OH!!! Abominable!!!!!
When someone has intense disdain for somebody for no valid reason, then they have no problem with inflicting cruelty upon them. The cruelty usually isn't extreme physical abuse as in this example. It is often psychological or verbal abuse, but it is deliberate cruelty, nonetheless. This is a common trait with highly arrogant and narcissistic individuals. They enjoy being cruel and they get a thrill at seeing the distress they cause.
It was Pauls idea
this is sadism. regardless of her intent in terms of murder she deserves no less than life in prison
Oh no...life in prison is much too lenient. She's extremely lucky that there are no legal means to administer the least she deserves. It's unfortunate that she resembles a real human closely enough to be afforded any human rights.
She will pay-that's for sure.@@bufordhighwater9872
@@bufordhighwater9872Well said!!!!
until USA government didn't decide to get every minor visited by a doctor (both physically and psychologically) at least once a year, MORE if they are homeschooled, these monstrosities will happen again and again. And if you think it's impossibile to check children so often, well, in Germany they do it, and if the minor is a baby they do even monthly, for the first years. I mean EVERY newborn, poor or rich, doesn't matter. If for some reason the appointment is missed, they come to knock on your door and check the whole house too.
I agree, 100% sadism. Plus a really bad actor (fake panic attack, fake tears, fake memory loss, fake dissociation)..
“Fear of prison based memory loss”… Yeah, I’ll say. PTSD doesn’t cause you to torture and starve your disabled son to death. This woman is a genuine sadist.
😊
I thought a narcissist psychopath!
Irma Grese
I have PTSD. Sometimes it gives me a panic attack in the store and I have to go stand with my back to the wall away from people. It means I can't take a shower without a gun. But you know, It's never caused me to restrain and torture a child. Not a valid excuse and it's actually more infuriating that she'd throw people with PTSD under the bus trying to use it as one.
@@ElsaEsterhuyzen😊ooo
My own mother was like this, but to a much lesser degree. She and my 2 siblings hated me. My mother resented me and was disgusted by my existence. The 3 of them were extremely cruel to me. I cut them all out of my life when I became an adult. I am sick over what this poor boy had to go through. His life was an absolute nightmare. Put in ice water for 9 hours. He ate a 2 pound bag of frozen nuggets he managed to get ahold of because he was starving to death - yet she mentioned that in court to demonstrate that he was somehow "bad". I hope the other prisoners make each and every day of her life a living HELL.
They will.
@@duelenigma7732 ❤️
I’m sorry for your suffering 😢
@@catsario7512 ❤️
God bless you 🙏🏼
A prison sentence is too good for her. They need to give her the same treatment that she gave to that young boy.
Unless she's in solitary... she's gonna have a hard time in prison
there is this thing called the 8th Amendment, sorry you disagree with it
No.
@@MaxwellsDemon9Right on! Torturing people is never the answer-ever.
@@socialcommentary1014tell that to the little boy that was tortured.
Most adults couldn't endure the torture and pure hatred this poor child endured 24/7. He was also sleep deprived on top of all the other torture. This woman recreated a Nazi concentration camp right in her own home. I hope this sadistic "mother" enjoys a 24/7 dose of prison justice at least equal to what she inflicted upon poor Timothy. 😢
Exactly. And the way she was monitoring his food intake, I wondered if she had an interest in them.
I was thinking she even had the hairdo of those women nazi guards.
Unfortunately she’s likely to be protected in prison from other Inmates (many of them Mothers) that will know exactly what she did to Timothy, and have their own way of delivering ‘justice’.
@@sonia354 yeah thats what i thought ..unfortunately ..
I wish no harm upon anyone but i really hoping prison justice makes its way into this woman , i mean there are guards which in turn have kids , she could be epsteined ... ( forgive me god) I am a mature guy and cant help tearing up right now...
After she dragged Timothy from the ice bath into the closet, Her last words to her son she killed was, "you owe me an apology, and you don't need your mouth open to breath dummy" (as she turned his head to the camera with her hand over his mouth)
And Timothy took his last breath.
Shanda really shocked us all (I know this family personally, was there at their wedding, and was close family friends with her husband since I was born)
She lived a double life, and is a true abuser. She shouldn't even had Timothy in her care, being her parental rights were relinquished in Oklahoma years prior. She was only allowed supervised visits. There is so many details that didn't make it to trial. Like the video of what i described above, and the dynamics of the household. I hope they take care of her in prison.
Adam, said husband, passed away a few months ago. They were legally separated, and he filed for divorce, which wasn't completed before he died. G their son is safe and with his fathers family
What was she like ? Was she cold and robotic like she appeared in court ? I cannot fathom this crime. She truly is a sadist . I am glad G is safe with grandparents .
Did you go to the wedding of her first husband or second husband?
She is another Irma Grese of Auschwitz
everyone around her died, moved away as far as possible, or went to jail
Where was Dad???
I almost stopped watching this about 5 min into it, but then decided to finish watching in honour of Timothy. His story needs to be heard. HIs life remembered as precious. RIP, Timothy.
She isn’t upset that she did it. She’s upset that she got caught. She knew what she was doing. Terrible excuse for a human being. Great video Dr grande
It does appear that way. She knew enough about the law to not care but still chose to play sick when facing the jury. Sad and sick 🤔❤🇺🇸
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This is the oldest cliche in the world.
I mean, every criminal in the world would be upset that they got caught... I dont understand why people use this dumb logic
Even if you regret doing something, its still the natural state of being to ALSO regret getting caught
Give me one example where a person would not be upset for getting caught?
Like, are you saying, every time you speed, you become angry that a cop doesnt pull you over you?
Anyways, I think people who use this logic must have a very low IQ or something. Or maybe they just heard it as a child and just repeat it without thinking for themselves
@@artyomarty391not every criminal is upset that they get caught. There are some serial killers who leave clues for the law enforcement, so they have a higher chance to catch them. And when they are caught, they sometimes show relief or at least, enjoy the attention.
That poor child, to never know kindness or love is beyond heartbreaking.
It's disgusting 😞
He did know kindness and love in his poor short life but it wasn't from that evil bitch's hands. And especially after the father abandoned him to her.
It shocks me that some people don't have a moment of realisation "oh hey, I'm unhappy, and I don't like being a parent. Maybe we'd all be better off if I sought other arrangements rather than torturing this person."
My son is autistic, and it can be tough, but intentionally harming your own child like this is horrifying. My disgust and loathing for this lady goes beyond words.
💉 did that to him
I have a child with autism, ADD, and poor coordination. She's an absolute treasure, so smart, loving, and beautiful. Even though she's grown she still loves to cuddle. I cannot imagine treating any child or anyone in such a fashion.
Edit: okay, so many comments. I'm not trying to paint myself or my daughter as perfect. We have plenty of challenges. Autism is indeed a spectrum, and I understand that. Blessings to all who deal with challenging children.
That woman is the devil here on earth!!!!!
I have FASD and my adoptive mother was an angel. She taught me well and also protected me from those who didn’t understand. I honestly think I would be in jail or dead without her guidance because I make poor decisions and am too trusting. This woman is pure evil.
I have a child with severe autism. This struck me so hard. She was pure evil. I hate that some special needs children never have anyone to check on their welfare. Actually, even children without special needs don’t always either. So sad.
Shandra could've relinquished parental rights & responsibilities, to the state. The lifetime SS endowment for a disabled child likely prompted her decision not to do that.
@@LoriKasprzak-yk6nc I bet you’re right😞
Forcing Timothy to vomit food was taking cruelty to a new level. She was sadistic and militant.
Demonic, really
Especially if there was hot sauce. Ever puked hot sauce out of your nose? Jesus Christ.
look up a book called lost boy where she makes her son eat his own vomit. We talk a lot about abusive fathers but I feel like up until recently, we all turn blind eye to an abusive mother because the tactics aren’t as violent and more covert smh
Irma Grese of Auschwitz
The woman reminds me of Irma Grese,the female Nazi concentration camp guard.Also their hair styles look similar as well.
I always love your dry sarcasm that you throw in. “All is not lost. She will still spend the remainder of her life in the criminal justice system.”
Recomending feeding a child you're starving so they dont die is an admission of guilt, and likely only presented out of a wish to not kill the child so they wouldnt get caught, not a sign of compassion or unwillingness to participate
Right. He should be sentenced same as mama.
Fortunately for her, our constitution prohibits the forms of punishment many of us believe she deserves.
Agreed
Maybe her new friends in prison will give her a dose of what she gave Timothy.
Karma Police's turn
right on!
Many mothers that are crazy waiting to see their kids are gonna have a word for her.
The constitution is not going to be involved with what happens when the lights go out.
How could anyone do this to their own child? This is an evil that I can’t comprehend.
Or do that to anyone.
I can't even have my own breakfast before I feed the dogs, put the bird seed out, and feed the shed mice..... then I work on my own breakfast. This woman is so deranged it's mind boggling. Just pure sadism.
@@trailrunner925 So relatable, and I love that you care for the shed mice too.
The first thing I do when I get out of bed is feed the critters. Once that's done then I'll sit down for breakfast.
No human being who has ever cared for and loved a child can understand something like this. Victor Frankel said there are 2 kinds of people - the empaths & …….. the others who I call zombies…… & the zombies perpetrate all the evil in the world
The mistreatment of Autistic people is far too common today. We are seen as less and intellectually disabled when we aren’t. Most of us are seen as burdens to others.
Sometimes I wonder if we need to clean up prisons and make living conditions in them less hellish.
And then I remember there are people like this suffering for life in there, and I don't feel so bad.
There is not much more I can say about this woman... but your subtle burns are so unexpectedly searing and I'm here for it.
It was all an act, when she was throwing up , she knew exactly what was being done to her son , she ordered his torture and abuse … she’s only sorry she got caught….
Had to be all an act. Give me a break, she wasn’t phased at all by seeing her son emaciated, Paul had to say something to her about it. She got off to the abuse, clearly. She doesn’t give a shit about what his dead body looked like.
Absolutely. She wasn’t phased by the way he looked at all.
She would've seen the pics before ...they'd be part of discovery..it has to be disclosed to the defence
That's how it is with most people that are like this, unfortunately. They are only sad once they get caught, and are forced out of their life to look at what they're actually doing. If they are able to stay in their same life and get away with it, no guilt is to be had. Not saying that people don't feel guilty at all, as I've known some people who are in prison from doing some horrible things and have a lot of time under their belt and they found God and genuinely feel guilty and are making a hard effort to change themselves and their lives before they get out and also help others change their own life around. But I'm very aware that doesn't happen a lot and is often an act.
I agree with you
Wow. What a sadistic woman. I’m surprised that she even called 911. She was smart enough to get through law school but she thought that she could walk away from Timothy’s death. Scary to think that he may not have gotten justice if she had hid the body and said that he ran away.
And that pathetic 'partner'
Putting him on a tarp creeped me out as he was gonna be burried maybe after dying if Paul wasn’t there. 🤦♀️
@@geraldinenolan6312
An absolute monster 👺 Paul is! Not redeemable for society around any other people! Not ever! He will go to mental hospital for criminally insane!
Being a lawyer has nothing to do with being and empathetic human being.I would argue its sometimes the opposite.
It makes you think why she chooses law as her area of study. Perhaps she thought she could outsmart the system and get away with abuse.
There is a huge gap in the law. You cannot track custody or child abuse cases across states. That's why so many abusers or non-custodial parents move states. There needs to be a national database so authorities can keep track of these cases. It keeps happening over and over again and still no national database.
Just one of the major downsides of having separate state and federal rules/laws. Imagine how many felons elude the system because of that.
Sounds crazy.
“United” States, my arse. Your states act as though they are completely different countries. There is more cohesion across seperate countries in Europe than their is across your state lines.
My mother was the same but less extreme. My sister who is 1.5 years older than me try to murder me when I was a baby by suffocating me with a pillow, and my mother laughs about it, they both do, every time she tells the story. This was just one of many. I still suffer nightmares from This. Been going to therapy for about 15 years.. I am a codependent victim of an extremely narcissistic mother, who was extremely abusive during my childhood. She of course isn't treating her sickness cause she's in complete denial. My body and my mind go into complete nervous meltdown every time I see her (them) which is once a year, at Christmas. They would both together push me to the limit to see how much I could take before absolutely breaking down. Thanks for covering this, not that I wished this on anyone but it helped me to find a situation so similar to mine and so well expressed
that's terrible. u don't deserve that!
I'm not usually an emotional guy but I shed a couple of tears for Timothy...If there's an afterlife or anything like that, I hope his spirit rests in peace...
Thank you for presenting this case Doctor.
Actually he's likely still lingering as a tormented spirit in that home.
@@iamwhoiam7887
There’s no evidence to support either claim. There’s no reason to believe in ghosts or an after life.
@@judyives1832wherever Timothy is now has to be far better than how he lived on earth.
@@judyives1832 there's no evidence to suggest you're not a cuck either
This case is the worst case of abuse I’ve ever heard of. My brain can’t process what they did to Timothy. I have a feeling that it was worse than what they said happened. RIP Timothy.
Individuals who claim "blackouts" and "memory loss" when they have committed physical harm to others need to recognise that they - the individuals - are too dangerous to be in Society if they are unable to prevent themselves from causing others physical harm
Yeah, if people were actually blacking out like that, you'd think they would surrender their driver's license, etc , taking steps to keep themselves and others safe.
We all know it is bs excuse for why she can’t answer certain questions. If she really suffered black outs where is the medical history and drs visits that documented it….complete rubbish. That poor boy.
@@suzannemanning4115 BS, most probably.
However, I'm a believer in and practicer of calling out these bluffs.
Let's see just how far are they willing to take these stories
It’s called Pretendonitis.
@@chosentonessournotes and the treatment is calling-their-bluffium at high doses STAT
Heartbreaking. It's so terrifying that I could barely go through this story. There is no penalty in today's civilised world to fit this monstrosity. What was this monster hoping for? That nobody would ever find out and she would just get away with heinous crime? It seems she took so much pleasure in inflicting pain on her son that she just stopped thinking rationally.
That’s so absolutely despicable. Poor Timothy. Kids with special needs need parents who are ready, willing, and able to go above and beyond to meet their needs and make sure they get all of the support services they need. That woman is a worthless piece of crap in my eyes. She isn’t worth the cost to tax payers to keep her alive in prison. She tortured that kid. She deserves no better herself.
And the worst part- she will still get decent meals every single day… maybe even warm, healthy meals.
@@BURLESQFITACADEMY she also may have a very difficult time with fellow inmates in maximum security or wherever she goes? Many prisoners as well as wardens etc do not like inmates who harmed children.
Many of them were treated so themselves!
What is the end game for people who treat their children like this? Our job as parents is to help our children grow and develop, and lead their best life. Did this woman think she was going to be 80 with her 50 year old son locked in a closet living off hot sauce? What do these abusive parents think is going to happen over time?
They don't think that far ahead. In fact, they may or may not think. I think a lot of these people just do what feels "good," and it feels good for them to hurt others. I call them replicators, not parents. They replicate children, and they replicate trauma.
@@missbearlockholmesI'm really interested in what you said about replicators can you elaborate on that?
That is a very good question. She was smart enough to get through law school and pass the bar but had no foresight into her future?? Seems odd. Of course, After all her criminal behavior I am surprised she called 911, I would have expected her to trash the poor soul's body. Nothing hurts my heart more than hearing about children being tortured and brutalized both mentally and physically by their own parents. Nowadays it seems like the state has to check on all parents and license them before they have children or else they will treat their children like property. Makes me so upset!
@@commonsense2680 she was mentally ill so probably had something to do with lack of foresight
It's mental illness. I'm not excusing her but who else would act this way unless they were mentally ill
What she did to that poor child is unfathomable. I listened to the court testimony. It is the most disturbing case I’ve heard. That poor child. His suffering is unimaginable. RIP Timothy. I hope there is a heaven filled lots of dogs so this poor child can feel nothing but love forever. ❤️🩹💔🙏
How can people be this awful to their own son? What a monster! Paul should have been charged with murder too, he was clearly an accomplice.
I suffer severely from mental disorders and I cannot even imagine doing what she’s done. My son is almost 15 and it’s completely unfathomable to me that anyone could do this to anyone. Absolutely horrific.
ME TOO!
51% of the USA is full blown mental. It's a badge of honor in USA.
I am right there with you, @soromimm493! It's unimaginable.
@@tdoran 😂🤣
A true Demon Beast...astonishing evil
Exactly 1hr and 10 minutes is how long it took the Jury. She was a cruel Mother and I believe she miss treated all her children especially the ones in her house !!
It takes about that much time to pick a forperson and sort out the paperwork.
I have know doubt about the truth of the book, A Boy Named It, if this person could do this to her son…
@@nealstarling5422 That book was horrific!
@@tangledcharlotteit's done well before that stage. What's your point?
@AlBundyOz That it was a fast deliberation. They didn't need to talk a lot.
This makes you wish we could somehow manage how kids are treated in their homes. If they are “home schooled” the parents can get away with anything and it makes me sick.
Like the psychopath teachers in schools these days would try help 🙄
That's exactly my response. I took my youngest out if brick and mortar school, where she could do online achool, with outside group activities because of how bad the school system is. Yes, ive worked in the school district, and volunteered in classrooms for both my children. I do know how schools are anymore. Most homeschooled children end up having a better education than going to a brick andmortar, without the bulkying, the lack if good teachers, , tge crap that gors on in the classroom teachers are not able to deal with because they are underpaid, and have too big if workload to truly care for each student. There are some great teachers who are not able to do their job because of the inept system. @slavbrav69
Homeschooling should be banned
@@melissahopkins1689 I don't believe it should. Have you seen the public school system in the past 30 years? I've had children in public school system (in HS my youngest started online learning), and I've worked in the public school system. I'd find a way to home school, or find the money for private school if I had to do it over
Public schools are little more than a babysitting service, at best.
By God, Doctor. Your analysis/commentary on this one was particularly savage 😂 and I felt every bit of it.
😢 that poor child , cant even imagine the horror he went through
AND THANK YOU TO THIS JURY FOR RENDERING A CORRECT AND RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENT IN THIS CASE !!!
I have 3 children with autism adhd, learning disabilities, my husband has autism diagnosed at the age of 54, our boys are a blessing and are the most beautiful souls inside and out, I would never hurt or torture my beautiful loved boys ❤❤❤❤
You have such a calming voice. It makes even the worst possible cases somewhat bearable to listen to. Thank you for that.
How heartbreaking for this poor child, it scares me to think of the evil that walks among us, nothing short of torture.She’s beyond despicable. Thanks Dr Grande Have a happy Christmas and a peaceful new year 🩷
The really scary thing about evil is it's will to live. You can take the most evil man in the world who has done the most unthinkably horrible things possible .. and as soon as you put a gun in their mouth they will do ANYTHING, and I mean... Anything, for another 5 minutes of life. That's what makes evil in humans so scary. In a just world, evil would simply die. Instead it fights with tooth and nail to survive. It will even employ philosophy or ideology to justify itself. Evil in humans is truly frightening.
What's more scary is when the evil comes from your own mother
Isn't it unbelievable that this disgusting and sadistic person would have gone on to be a licensed lawyer????!?!!!
The evil was walking around the court house every day! She's a nightmare.
Exactly that... How terribly frightening... Encountering so many people in life, who appear normal, but do this shit behind closed doors. My heart breaks for this poor boy. May he RIP.
This is one of the worst cases of abuse I've ever heard of. She absolutely wanted him to die. As far as I'm concerned Shawnda is beyond evil. 🧚♀
Why the fairy emoji?
@@denisenicole8271Maybe wanting that poor child to fly high after all that abuse. Not sure
I thought it was obvious. lol 🧚♀@@denisenicole8271
This woman won't have it easy in prison. Those women in the general population will take care of her.
@@LIT70 Unfortunately She and Paul wont be in general population
There was recently a similar case here in Sweden where two addicts - among other things - repeatedly forced their daughter to drink 24% acetum. She survived, but had to have her stomach removed due to corrosive injuries. She'll never eat again..
A life sentence of guilt and shame was an epic statement you made for Paul.
I’m sad, this one has rocked me to my core 🌵
It is beyond belief what she allowed to be done to this innocent child. Not once did this woman exhibit compassion for this suffering child. The cruelty was of the chard. And what made it even more heinous when she used paul to do harm to his brother...which will probably torment him for the rest of his life. Testimony was giving on the hot sauce that she had him order on line and the severity of the scull hot sauce product. I was speechless at the callousness of this torture item. Not to mention the icebath. I have an autistic, mentally impaired son..who is 52 years old..and is THE SWEETEST HUMAN BEING YOU WISH TO HAVE IN YOUR LIFE. HE HAS NO WANTS...ONLY LOVING NEEDS AND I'M HAPPY TO CALL HIM MY SWEET BABY. I 'M HEARTBROKEN FOR TIMI , THAT NOT EVEN ON HIS LAST BREATH DID HE HEAR HER SAY ....I LOVE YOU. GOOD GRIEF I'M CRYING FOR THIS LONELY LOVELY CHILD 😭😭❤❤❤❤.
Imagine instead of love, protection and guidance from your parent you are met with emotional and physical torture up until your death. ..This was so much harder to listen to than most crimes, (even though they are basically all terrible). My heart breaks for Timothy. May he RIP.
Shanda's a classic, Todd and you know it far better than we do.
Thank you for your clear, calm analysis in each upload. Mad respect
Her panic attack may have been real when she saw the pictures because she knew she couldn’t get out of this. She knew some law. She knew the evidence was against her.
She saw the pictures a week prior in an admissibility hearing.
@@RunningInLondon oh okay so this is not new to her. Wow why did she go to trial? What did she think was going to happen in court? I don’t understand her actions, but I don’t understand why she would do that to her son either. I just can’t relate to her in any way.
Still cold and sick. Sounds like a mother who had plans for herself but could not care about her kids. The idea of (most likely manipulating one sibling), to control the younger sibling is gross. Not to sound judgmental but why have kids if your intentions are to always put yourself first? This sounds like a new spin on a mommy dearest. Yuck! 🤔❤🇺🇸
@@elanahammer1076 yes she should have given up both boys. Why do people keep children they hate? So many people want to adopt. My brother adopted our nephew. Our family couldn’t love him more, adoption is beautiful.
@@deboracopeland4795the worst part is that Timothy’s father was going to give him up to foster care because apparently “he couldn’t handle him anymore”. So Shanda took him in. Imagine if they had just left him in foster care? Hopefully he would have been better off even with how many dangers that can happen to children in the system. At least he would be in a group home somewhere instead of that torture chamber.
Has to be THE worst case of child abuse I’ve ever seen. She’s BEYOND EVIL, UTTERLY INHUMAN.
The Nazis would have loved her! 🤔
Girl you ain't seen enough cases
@@melindafagerstrom9338Yes I watched one case where in addition to many other forms of torture they cut flesh off of the children and made the children eat their own flesh 😖 The children survived and I can't even imagine the PTSD they'd be left with.
@@melindafagerstrom9338 it's definitely not a competition.
@@melindafagerstrom9338agreed, unfortunately there is many horrible parents out there, and while some didnt do it to their children, they did it to other children instead. The backgrounds of some serial killers and their treatment from their parents is public knowledge. Also serial killers who killed children, like Albert Fish who ate his victims. Just when you think you hear about THE worst case if child abuse, another case worse then that one happens. Maybe listen to more true crime, and not just the crime, but the backstory
Bravo Dr. Grande the most consistent and formidable person on the whole internets. I appreciate your videos. They are a reminder to keep a stiff upper lip and continue trudging through the mire.
Your evaluation is absolutely spot on perfect Doc.
It is so tragic, how many children die in America after being tortured slowly until death, never knowing love or comfort, just years of abuse by those who are supposed to protect them.
In Yiddish, "Shanda," means shame. I watched this trial and was horrified by her abuse towards her son. What frightened me, is that this mother is probably not the only parent in the US that abuses her/his chidlren. Dreadful.
In the US? How about in the world.
..That is interesting about the meaning of Shanda and similarity to the mother’s name.
@@amirahaidary4187similarity? That IS her name
@@amirahaidary4187 right?? What a weird comment… Like Of Course Theres TONS of other evil parents who abuse their kids, & not just in the US but in EVERY country in the world! How weird that they made it seem like something that just happens here🤨
This isn't unique to the USA. This is a worldwide epidemic. There are more of us who come from violence than you could imagine. I never have gotten that poll. Doctors & my surgeon knew.
Probably? Definitely. Unfortunately, this is more common than you think.
Glad to catch up on a weekend's worth of videos, but especially horrified by this particular case (this may be the worst situation you've ever discussed); I really cannot fathom how someone could do this to a fellow human being, let alone one's own child. Thanks, as always, Dr. Grande.
My son had the exact same condition. He’s amazing and I love him more than life. He had taught me so much about myself. ❤
I hope Paul gets the help he needs. I watched his testimony. Heartbreaking. She should be held accountable for her brainwashing of him.
Agreed
My thoughts also, he is likely damaged beyond repair, I hope he doesn’t go to jail, I cannot imagine he will do well.
He needs help but he ALSO needs to be charged & held accountable as well. He was DEFINITELY old enough to know that was he was doing was pure Evil, & helped cause his death. He needs to be locked away too.
Paul is bad too
@stephenmorris3696 don't worry jail will fix him 😂
These cases haunt me. This creature is not human. She’s a vile, evil monster. That poor child. No words to come the horror he endured adding in his issues.
She's a skinwalker...
Looks human on the outside but not human under the skin.
I couldn’t stand to watch this when you first released it. I finally made it through. I wish so bad that I could go back in time and rescue that poor boy.
Thanks dr Grande for the video and your great work.
Fun fact: you don’t have to procreate. Maybe, if you’re this psychotic, you consider embracing the child-free life…
She attened a conservative christian undergrad odds perhaps she had been indoctrinated into the belief that a woman's role is to procreate. Whatever the reason is it's a shame she didn't believe her role as a mother was to be a loving caregiver.
Some people want kids, to have someone to mistreat, and someone who is dependent on them.
I have a hard time believing she is any good for society even without kids. Her contributions are not needed.
She was a decent mother to her younger child which is the weirdest part. She was volunteering for their baseball games and would make sure that the youngest one got special treats even if she was low on cash. I don’t know how you can act like everything is fine with one child, while simultaneously torturing another child to death only a few feet away. Plus making the oldest participate in her torture and telling the oldest to be discrete about the horrors they were committing to the younger child. That’s how you know she knew exactly how horrible her actions were. If she needed to hide it even from her child living in the house, then she knew it would affect them and would make them inform someone.
What is thisA fun fact a fact yes of course but not fun.
I have a disability too and was abused severely for it. I can tell you about the sick “logic” behind our abusers.
My dad punished me extremely harshly for having bathroom accidents. It’s not simply a bad behaviour problem, there’s a physical reason why people like me and Timothy can’t hold it.
Our abusers think starving and dehydrating will lead to less peeing and pooping😔 They humiliate us about our bodily functions and see sleeping in the bathtub as a way around dealing with us or helping us…. 💔
Considering bio dad had legal custody and yet still permitted Timothy to come live with his bio mother (despite the fact her prior child abuse charges should have presented this from ever occurring) what is his culpability for contributing to the harm to his minor son, by allowing him to live with a woman who had been charged with child abuse previously?! Where is Dad in this - legally and morally? Was he just so exhausted of taking care of Timothy that he willingly turned a blind eye? No welfare checks or visits?
I think the father should be charged with child neglect resulting in death. Timothy was his father’s responsibility.
@@GoodnightJLHI think we need to know more about the father's situation first.
@@tanikokishimoto1604no. She had previous charges for child neglect and abuse charges. She did not have legal custody of Timothy. He knew that and still decided to turn Timothy over to hereven though he had full custody. He bears responsibility too. End of!
No. It’s disgraceful that you are trying to shift the blame here. It’s the people who did this’s responsibility. She did and hid this. I’ve seen as many cases of crazy/evil/sadistic women who will destroy everybody around them, and it’s about time we acknowledge that. The lack of that truth here allowed this. I can almost guarantee that he did everything he could do, and that he probably had no idea about the boy’s ultimate condition. If a man showed up to take his son back, he’d end up in jail and the kid would be no better off.
The courts back the mother, no matter what they do or who has custody. Go watch the documentary, “Dear Zachery” if you want to know how these things play out.
Stop defaming, shifting blame onto a man who had no way to stop this, until you have evidence. The cops and courts won’t do anything.
What a ridiculous and almost laughable and deliberate misinterpretation of my point. I shifted NO blame to him and detracted NOTHING from the mother’s culpability. I asked a question about legalities involving her having physical custody when she should not have, and resulting risk to him, while stating NOTHING about whether he should or should not be charged. I posed a question and YOU shifted, blamed and spewed vitriolic bull simply because I asked a question you are not able to intelligently comprehend or consider.
"Shanda had restricted his access to food."
I am always impressed with your analysis. Thanks always illuminating
Paul is a victim too, but he needs to held accountable for his actions. I don’t think prison will help Paul. I think he needs intense therapy and needs to be sent to a mental institution. Prison will break him.
judging by the things he did, he is already broken....
I do feel Paul might become crazier in prison. It’s a weird thing.
He will likely go to a prison mental ward for criminally insane but someone may end him there too for torturing a helpless child!
Please describe how Paul his a victim? I fail to understand! The good Dr. says, Paul
(an adult 18+) would taunt the autistic boy with food, chase the kid up and down the
stairs, put hot sauce on his food...what did I miss? If you have kids, plz call Paul!
Doubtful he'll go to a criminally insane place...too much NCIS!
If only they could put her in the same living conditions. Anything less is not justice.
Justice is getting what you deserve, not treatment that is equal to what you did. I think it is possible for people to do this so horrible that no one deserves to have those things done to them. I think this is one of those cases.
Well, they kind of are. Theres the legal system, then there is the unofficial system within prisons. People who treat children poorly enough to wind up in prison find they arent well recieved by the community there.
#actually that's not how justice works
She will get here's in prison by other inmates
I say they sign her up for space exploration. Except don't no return trip. If she's that smart she'll figure it out. She doesn't need to breath.
Good job Dr Grande!
Excellent post 👏🏼
How damned evil can someone be! This case is terrifying.
Please don’t ask that, someone will come along and do something worse.
Im just glad she wasnt cunning enough to cart off Timothys dead body in the middle of the night (he only weighed 60-70 lbs at death) and disposed of it in some remote area...or even bury it in some shallow grave.
As it would appear people simply didnt visit the home, and the house of horrors that occurred within.
Luckily, she wasnt clever enough, and used a very lame and telling excuse of "hunger strike" concocted story.
My child has a severe learning disability (not autism) and language delay. He is the funniest, sweetest kid. I can't imagine not feeding him or locking him up. It can be frustrating, I cry, I have to walk away for a few min., my husband and I take turns "off" from the kids, for example. But I love him no matter what, he's just a child. My heart goes out to Timothy. RIP young man. I hope this lady rots in prison!
Imagine when he's an adult and physically dangerous. This ish is sick. But I've seen many mrdd patients who are loving change into something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy
A very sad case so concisely and excellently explained. I completely agree with your opinions and evaluation; particularly regarding her lack of remorse and “vomiting for show”
My son has Autism and this breaks my heart... I love my son so much
In Yiddish, the word “shanda” means something scandalous and shameful…
😮😮 This is the first time I've seen someone who is purely and entirely evil, in every shape and form. She's evil in its truest form! Some murderers are broken, you can see theit cracks that led to their dimension. She doesnt have that! She's just evil!
As for her teen son, I lean on the massive amount of research over decades showing an undeveloped prefrontal cortex, inability to properly understand, consent, make decisions, or apply logic in someone under the age of 25, and particularly in the teen years when the area of the brain controlling the need for acceptance is at its peak.
He wasn’t an accomplice; he was another victim. Imagine for a moment a stranger abducted two children and forced one to torture the other. The threat here is withdrawal of love, potential loss of his home and quite possibly his life- as he was very likely threatened with, ‘you want me to do it to you instead’.
This boy couldn’t possibly have understood and far from jail time, I believe residential hospitalization under grounds of severe trauma and abuse would be appropriate.
Dr G nailed it and love his ending! Jaw dropping
I can’t even think of anything mean enough to say about this woman. I will never understand the evil that lives inside some people. She is not fit to be on this earth.
Even a 5 year old knows, you don't eat, eventually you die. If he's so malnourished, putting him in ice baths would kill him - he has no body fat to regulate his temperature. I'd eventually die (and I've got "insulation"!)
I can't believe this poor child lasted this long, a little illness would have finished him. I can't imagine what a sad, hopeless existence he had.
I'd have to say yes to murder. What on earth was she trying to do otherwise? I'd maybe believe she didn't want to kill him because she enjoyed it too much!
I remember when that other boy was found in the home locked in a room, that, the awful thing is there would be other children out there, behind closed doors, suffering in similar ways. I wish this was the last case, but I'm sure there's more to find.
Her excuses are just infuriating.
This case truly disturbed me to my core. I could not watch the trial at all. Dr Grande, the catus candles 🕯 excellent choice, Sir. Also, I always enjoy your dry delivery of these videos.
This story is beyond heart breaking. I have no words.
What a disgusting sadistic monster! 🤦♀️ Animals dont torture and kill their babies. That "aspiring lawyer " should be locked up and isolated for the rest of her worthless life! Merci, Docteur and bonne chance!
Actually they do sometimes. In fact I believe we have a regressive instinct that animals posses to kill our offspring if there is something fundamentally wrong with them. Animals will kill starve or abandon an offspring if the feel it will not survive or thrive.
So being autistic and problematic I wonder if the mother had an instinct to kill him?
We had a cat that had a litter of very defective kittens whom she ate. I will never forget that.
@@renafielding945 🫣😖😩🥺
Animals very much do hurt their own off spring. Real life isn't Disney.
You would have to spend like no time around animals to believe something like that.
Most animals are adapted to kill off some or all of their offspring in tough times to increase the chances of survival. It's just how it is. We're supposed to better than our baser instincts.
Does are known to not let one fawn suckle so the other has a better chance of surviving. They'll even eat the dead fawn after it starves to death.
Rats and other rodents are well known for eating their offspring.
That kind of thing being so common in nature might even be where people get it. It might be why it's so common for people like this mother to mostly target one child.
Where the hell are you getting this information from. Animals do and often kill their young. They often let them die if they are weak or kill them. And male animals often have to be chased off away from their young by the mothers to stop them from killing them. This behaviour is often seen in predators. bears, Felines and Dogs.
Their instincts are telling them to do this.
They don't want to torture them. It's just instinct.
The want to torture and control and harm is a human thing.
This is sickening. What a heartless poor excuse for a mother. I feel so sorry for poor little Timothy.
Love your comment, now she will never be an attorney, all is not lost, still spend her life in the criminal justice system! Priceless! My heart breaks for Timothy, if only somehow, someone could have seen him sooner & gotten him help & love.
You hit the nail on the head with this one !
Heartbreaking for this young man, horrible....she needs to be under the jail. Thanks for your analysis, I agree Dr. Grande. ❤
Shanda was a hard core Narscissts! Timothy was her scape goat. She took all her frustration out on him but had multiple excuses for herself and never saw herself as wrong but didn't want to get caught by police.
She'll definitely face prison justice from all the women who love and miss their children.
She be separated alone
@@starbright1256Is that for her protection? Who was there protecting Timothy?
Dude, you nailed it. Spot on.
content! You have great insights thank you for sharing.
Unrelated to this video: have you considered analyzing the Pemberton incident?
Not even five minutes in, and I'm done with this episode. It truly hurts to hear of these types of tragedies. There are too many despicable people who abuse, hurt, mutilate, and kill children and youngsters. RIP, young one 😢
Sorry what? Dr. Grande ONLY covers murders and atrocities. I wonder why any of you needed a trigger warning? Maybe don't watch stuff like this. There are plenty of kitten videos out there.
@@dingo1666I agree! What a bunch of ninny’s!
@@dingo1666 Only edgy teenagers applaud low levels of empathy kiddo. No one thinks you're cool for watching this. This kind of content is actually really popular with middle aged women
Didn't the state point out that Paul called 911, she didn't want to? That was my understanding from watching the trial. She ran that place like a prison camp. Tim was bound and shackled, kept naked, given ice baths and deprived of sleep along with the starvation. He was made to work until he was too weak to do so. The house looked nice from the outside you would never suspect what was happening to that poor child.
When a case is so awful, when I can't bring myself to listen to the court case or details first hand, I really appreciate your precise presis of it, your thoughts and opinions. Best wishes
I agree with the suggested sentence that Dr. Grande proposed for Paul. Periodical evaluation and consistent therapy need to be implemented to assess thought patterns and behavior for him.
She doesn't deserve the title of mother. I hope her time in prison is as horrible as the life she gave that poor child. I dont ever comment on these videos but as a mother of two sons with autism i see what greatness the world has lost with this childs passing. RIP😢
I understand the boy's dad actually had custody but let Timothy live with the mother. Was he not aware of what she was doing? Timothy suffered a terrible life and finally death.
Yeah where is this man the father?
@@starbright1256@starbright1256 Unfortunately, in many cases, believe it or not, our system considers men in general to be "toxic." Moral superiority has been bequeathed to the women for family law practice. That's how men, in many cases, can't be found. No one wants them unless it's to call them deadbeats. You know the drill.
Timothy's dad suffered a stroke and moved out to be cared for by his parents as Shanda didn't have the time or capacity to care for him (obviously). Shanda forbade any family members from entering the house therefore no-one saw Timothy.
@@IXs_1It was the stepdad who had the stroke, not Timothy’s biological father, who he lived with prior to being sent to live with his mother.
@@IXs_1 Her not allowing anyone to see Timothy should have made the family very suspicious. Sadly they must have been totally unaware of his suffering. The poor boy was left with a psychopath.
She graduated law school (magna cum laude) and passed the bar exam (w/very high score) so not sure why you characterize her status as "aspiring" or "on her why to becoming" a lawyer. She was qualified to practice as an attorney, though working as a law clerk at the time. In any case, a sick, sadistic woman despite high intelligence. She got the sentence she deserved.
She may have graduated from Liberty magna cum laude, but I believe she testified (!) that she graduated with honors. Why someone being tried for murder would talk about their college grades is beyond me. I believe she also testified that she passed the bar on the first try. You're supposed to be able to do that. At Cooley (as far as I understand) she was on Law Review, which means she had good grades. But, I notice Cooley is not raving about her as a graduate. They don't have much to say about Michael Cohen (another Cooley grad) either.
Fascinating insight
Rest in peace, Timothy 😢❤. I wish we could treat your mother the way she treated you.
So it's also came out in the trial that she was supposed to only get SUPERVISED visits. So how in the devil would her ex husband give Timothy to her on a full-time basis?? He lived in another state with a new wife! In my mind he is also to blame!! Ohmygosh that poor boy!! He was failed on so many levels!!!!😢😢😢😢
Exactly right! She was supposed to have supervised visits only. That boy’s father needs to be prosecuted too. What he did is child neglect resulting in death.
He should at least have checked up on the child.
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More than that. He had full custody and abandoned the boy.
Exactly the man gets to always leave! He needs to be charged that’s his offspring as well. Where are all the enraged great dads claiming they fight for their children?? The men complain that the courts favor the mother for custody but HE HAD custody himself.
He didn't want the responsibility of a special needs teenager. He wanted to forget his passed life. According to the comment above, he had a new wife. Most men don't want to be bothered with children,especially special needs children, that's why they walk away so easily. 🤷
Love the title, lol. Happy Holidays to you and your loved ones, Dr. Grande!
I hope Shonda’s cellmates let her know how they feel about child murder.
After a year of prison incarceration, her face will be unrecognizable, if she survives.