Epitome of modern day writers. Nothing external or abstract in a character. Just selfish entitled and self obsessed characters. You see it especially in marvel, Disney and western aaa games today. The me me me characters.
Tbf a character that is just done with everything and wants to go home but gets dragged into progressively weirder adventures sounds like a funny gimmick.
@@panonymousbloom5405 Go home and do what? Didn’t she attempted to kill herself when she’s back on Earth? The only real attachment was probably the cat but it rarely got mentioned, if at all. I get it, she’s an orphan in NYC and that probably gives her an attitude and sharp tongue, but there’s a different between being rough around the edges and, as Charlie said it, being a complete asshole
@@The_Primary_Axiom Well, they do say that one of the cardinal rules of writing is "Write What you Know" ... This kind of stuff is all modern millennial and zoomer writers know, apparently...
This game is. The gameplay was programmed. The level was designed. It has graphics. The combat is. The mechanic were. The voice were acted. Truly a game.
An upside to Forspoken is that prospective game writers should get a massive confidence boost, if this is how low the bar is to find employment in the industry.
@@ewjiml Not after finishing the game though, which is where the writing is already done and people had plenty of time to look through the shit and preferably burn it.
@@noirekuroraigami2270 I've seen fanfictions written in a couple hours with better writing than AAA games and multi season long shows. Good writing means jack shit as long as the dudes in charge eat it up lol
Charlie was right. Kratos was only a giant douche when it benefited him. He was rather cordial if brash to innocent bystanders he thought didn't deserve his wrath.
We all know how merciless Young Kratos could be, but a lot of people overlook that he wasn’t a jerk to you for no reason He gave just about every boss not named Zeus and Ares a chance to walk away, and only fatalitied them when they insisted on pressing him further Ofc there was the instance of Poseidon’s mistress, but that example is an outlier during a game when Kratos was slipping in terms of his composure (GOW 3)
@@TheAssirra Mainly in GoW3. That was him going all in on his attack on Olympus. In the first two games he killed innocent people sure, but it was to demonstrate how single minded he was. He burned a soldier alive in the first game, not because he was annoyed by him, but because it was the only way to move forward in Pandora's temple. The only person he was unnecessarily a jerk to was the boat captain, but I think that was the dev's attempt at a running gag.
Except when he needs you to Read. He asked you to Hold a Door. You Got in his Climbing Paths. You Asked for help. Yeah... He was Cordial to a limit. Except when you use 2 Seconds of his time.
@@nomisignal6026 this game has so much potential in all levels and they did not develop any of them, it looks like an unfinished game with an unfinished story
I swear modern writers saw Iron Man 1 and decided that Tony Stark's only attribute was snarky. And then they decided that that's the only attribute they'd give to their own characters because they're all incompetent.
Personally I think it’s ok if the main character started out a bit annoying or unlikable but what’s important is to make them a better person as the story goes on. No one wants to watch some egotistical douche go through the story and learn absolutely nothing
@@henrytheanglerfish6290No no, never make them unlikable. Because then it's harder for the majority of audiences to relate and root for them, it's ok to make them a bit obnoxious or annoying but they still need a likeable quality like maybe while annoying they still don't want innocent ppl getting hurt, or they volunteer at a animal shelter because they love animals. Storytelling 101 is always make sure the main character WANTS to be a real hero by establishing their better qualities earlier so that way their growth to being better is believable because said better traits are amplified through that development.
11:40 is not cringe, it’s actually disappointing that professional writers embrace such a mean-spirited character. Why would we want to immerse ourselves in an alternate world if we are constantly being exposed to juvenile behavior which pulls us immediately out of the immersion of the story? I don’t get it either…
Seriously, I've seen Edward kenway from assassin's Creed black flag be nicer than this and the entire thing was that his character is a greedy, mean spirited bastard who doesn't care about what happens to others as seen with what he indirectly caused for the assassins around the early-mid point of the story, but he generally had some real appreciation for his crew
It’s not even a matter of being unable to connect with a character that’s a bad guy, but if there’s no overall redeeming or at least entertaining qualities then it’s a fail. Take a show like Always Sunny. They’re all technically terrible ppl, but with great humor and writing you still root for them. Basically the same for Seinfeld as well.
You know a game is bad when someone changes the difficulty from hard to easy not because the game is too hard but because it just makes fights boring. Like bruh hard modes should make combat more engaging. 💀
They do, Cuff loses protection quicker and you take more damage. Also, seen plenty of walkthroughs and only ONE managed to tap into the vastness of combat mechanics and magic. People suck playing this
@@simaopinto8521 Why should they get engaged with it if the characters and world are so boring/mean for no reason they're not worth exploring or sticking around for?
@@simaopinto8521 Nah, the game isn’t actually harder on the higher difficulties. Just turning enemies into bullet sponges doesn’t equal difficulty and challenge. It just draws out the already terrible gameplay
@@simaopinto8521 that's the thing though if the enemies and bosses have 2 attacks and just walk around pointlessly for half the fight why would anyone even bother mastering it like you are given no reason to try to master the system cause no matter how cool you combo your spells it will make no difference since the enemies will not react to in a meaningful way
apparently, according to mainstream and normies, swearing and having potty mouth for no particular reason count as "mature" or "adult" themed... its so immature...
@@Chud_Bud_Supreme Adult cartoons are not the cause wtf lol. Those shows are made around the swearing as its base humor. This game was not made like that at all xD You sound like one of those parents who blames Family Guy for why their child is a bully at school. Grow up
They just want a badass girlboss protagonist that steals things and treats others like shit because girl power woke culture you know... Typical stuff basement dwelling Twitter users would push towards
I don't wanna seem insensitive, but here in Europe she looks like the average American speaking or at the least the image they try to sell us of US citizens
Real Americans don't act like Frey, and would dislike anyone who did. Thinking this game accurately represents American culture and behavior would be like me assuming "365 Days" is a good representation Polish culture. It just isn't. They're both just poorly crafted works, and that's that. :/
@@simaopinto8521 Frey represents what upper class coastal liberals think black people think and act like. They don’t know anyone from an actual marginalized community, or any regular American people. Imagine this character is social justice fan fiction that doesn’t represent reality of how Americans are.
Ah, but you see, the garbage writers use the "strong female character" as a smokescreen for their bad writing because they know if they do that theyll get virtue brownie points and hopefully people wont be allowed to criticize them.
@@fudgepacker2858 I like to think I have a pretty good grasp on the English language but my man I’ve got no fuckin idea what you’re trying to say lmao. A show isn’t bad if just 1 person with bad taste likes it? Who tf have you ever in your life seen sincerely believe that? Nobody is who, because you’re bad-faithing the argument exactly like people always do whenever this show comes up on UA-cam. I swear I’ve never seen a mid sitcom get so many folks’ panties so twisted. Of course there are qualities of poorly made media, nobody anywhere is saying there aren’t. Why don’t you point out some of She-Hulk’s toxic qualities that make the entire show so “objectively” bad.
@Goldmaaaaan oh yeah. The chick that controls her anger while being angry. To the Hulk of all things. Bruce Banner who is hunted down like an animal across the planet by the US government for years. Slipped into a depression so bad that even a bullet to the head could not grant him peace. But being cat called is miles higher than suicide. That She-Hulk?
@@Goldmaaaaan it’s not exactly healthy to compare trauma with your cousin who tried to kill himself and had an abusive dad. Even worse when her “trauma” is being catcalled
@@fudgepacker2858Nah, Mindy Kaling's acting and writing is so shit that the only way for us to believe it exists is to assume it was intentionally bad.
Square Enix attempts to employ diversity in their main character design: a “mixed race” female character portrayed as a homeless inner city criminal who values her sneakers above all else, who doesn’t know who her parents are, and who is rude and disrespectful to every character with whom she interacts, including the actual player.
@Randy Remember, if you can't think of anything clever to say, just say "bait;" or "that's the joke;" or just post some skull emojis. Apropos of nothing, just be snarky and condescending Like Frey
for real, i immediately thought that too if they wanted to use the dinosauria sounding names they couldve made there own latin names but i guess google translate is too hard
I remember Forspoken's reveal trailer. It had no dialogue, just Frey running without saying a word, looking cool with a cloak hiding her face. It definitely set an intriguing tone.
The game had potential, the magic looks cool and fun to traverse with in the world, but once I saw the battles and dialogue you know all the potential this game had was thrown into the toilet
My reasoning as to why writers decide to create such unlikable protagonists is because they probably look at characters like Kratos and think: “Hey, this guy’s an absolute asshole and people love him for it! Let’s make our own protag like that!” But they completely miss the point. We don’t love Kratos from God of War because he’s objectively a bad person, it’s because of who he is as a character and his journey that led him to become the way he is. The whole of God of War 1 has us uncovering Kratos’ origins: why he’s called the Ghost of Sparta, why his skin is pure white, why he hates Ares so much, where he got the Blades of Chaos from, why he’s both feared and hated, etc. If you give your character a compelling reason for being unlikable, the players will come to empathize with your character. Otherwise, you’ll wind up with someone like her who’s just an asshole for the sake of being an asshole.
If you were to ask me what Forspoken's biggest problem is, it would be the price. $70 does set some high expectations, if it sold for $15-$30 range then more folk would probably give it more positive or at lest neutral reviews of it. but that is my thoughts on it.
Man, we're getting scammed a bit more here in France. The game costs 80€ here, which is approximately $86, that's just fucking crazy. I wish people would stop paying for garbage games like this at full price, it encourages companies to sell at even higher prices, in a few years, it'll cost $100 to play some shitty rushed game.
@@spencer6709 Damn, that's why i always buy games when they're on sale, unless it's something that i've been waiting for years. Still sucks for you guys though.
I stopped playing it after 1 hour and 39 minutes and refunded it after I got annoyed enough at the characters, uninteresting combat/AI and the TERRIBLE dialogue.
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls Maybe because he is one of those rare people that form their own opinions after testing the products rather than disliking/liking the product based on what the majority of people say about it.
@@warchiefvenomn7612 Ah yes cuz watching people play the game is not forming your own opinion from what you see, ofc you only take what is said by them and cannot see beyond their words! If you can’t tell I’m mocking you cuz you missed the part of “shown” and only saw the “what others said” part of my message lol I mean you can try to waste time and money to play it first hand that is a valid thing to do cuz it is different when you play it yourself but you run the risk of not being able to return it depending on factors. I didn’t say he had to take anyone’s word but it can’t hurt to see what is being said by any and all, but also see the game like there’s no commentary channels for play throughs and such, you can see the game for yourself without buying it, you do know this, right? Anyways yeah thanks for the dumbass comment captain obvious, fuck off.
@@warchiefvenomn7612 Ah yes cuz watching people play the game is not forming your own opinion from what you see, ofc you only take what is said by them and cannot see beyond their words! If you can’t tell I’m mocking you cuz you missed the part of “shown” and only saw the “what others said” part of my message lol I mean you can try to waste time and money to play it first hand that is a valid thing to do cuz it is different when you play it yourself but you run the risk of not being able to return it depending on factors. I didn’t say he had to take anyone’s word but it can’t hurt to see what is being said by any and all, but also see the game like there’s no commentary channels for play throughs and such, you can see the game for yourself without buying it, you do know this, right? Anyways yeah thanks for the basic ass comment captain obvious.
The sad part is the framework for something good *is* there. It's there but the people making it are too busy sniffing their own farts to make it good.
Forspoken made me appreciate Tales of the abyss protagonist luke fon fabre's character development and the best part is that Dev's wanted you to hate him in act 1. But act 2 and onwards he's one of the most well-written protagonists of the entire tale series or even video games.
Man, they really pushed it with Luke though. I was so close to dropping that game because of how insufferable he was. The only reason I didn’t is because I was told he eventually gets better. I wouldn’t have stomached it if I didn’t know.
@@JackTwoFingers Because both the games main characters Frey and Luke have a bit in common with each other. Luke, like Frey is condescending, Rude to companions. And both wanted more out of their lives (Luke wanted to leave the Manor as he's been there for his entire life prior to the game) (Frey Wanted to leave her Crappy abandoned apartment for something better) Both get thrown into a conflict they really had no desire to be in and both also have a massive ego (hero complex especially Luke) Of course there are massive differences. you could see how luke changes throughout the story from an arrogant Noble boy with the emotional maturity of a 7-year old, to a depressed moral do-gooder with an existential crisis, to a genuine hero. Meanwhile Frey hardly changes throughout her story and suddenly she wants to help these people in despite telling them to fuck off throughout
There’s just so much potential this game could have had. *spoilers for one of the endings but I doubt anyone cares* They should have made a scene or a feature in the game where you can take pictures with the NPCs with your phone and make memories (You know, if the NPCs were memorable). But if you choose the ending where you leave, it would leave a consequence other than leaving a world, you forget the people you forged bonds with. The photos you took disappear, as does Frey’s memory of being there at all. Like it was a bad dream. So at least that way one of the endings have some kind of meaning, if at all small. (I’m just kinda spit balling here)
Modern feminism thinks women being constantly abrasive, snippy, unapproachable, narcissistic, and confrontational, really anything that makes a person unlikeable, equals a strong female character
Really has nothing to do with "modern feminism" characters like this have existed far longer than most people in this comment section. It's just bad writing, written by a dude
@@punusername3445 no it is still modern feminism at okay here as well They do not know how to write strong characters like Sarah Connor or Ridley They write women that want to be and act like men
This game was so bad Square Enix is shutting down the studio that made it, Luminous Productions, effective May 1st, they're absorbing the devs into their own company and decided they'd be better off not working on their own project, if this is what they can do
@@Chud_Bud_Supreme Jobless Reincarnation, Re:Zero, Konosuba is a comedy. Tanya the Evil, Cautious Hero is a comedy also. Ascendance of a Bookworm is really good and underrated. So I'm a Spider is also good a bit confusing at first but gets easier understand. The Devil is a Part Timer is good except it's a REVERSE Isekai. Shield Hero is good, Uncle from Another World is good also. Reincarnated as a Slime included. These are some of the ones I can think off the top of my head. But to me these are good. If you watch em' judge for yourself.
I tried playing the game myself and wanted to give it a fair shot but the wave of elation that passed over me when I didn't have Wi-Fi for a while and couldn't play the game told me everything I needed to know.
Strong woman = Woman who's rude and sarcastic to everyone I hate the wave of writers today who get hired only because they have politics to push and still, they do it badly.
Being strong does not mean being rude or uncaring or abrasive for absolutely no reason. I wish more writers would acknowledge this. I will say, this trope has been done with male characters as well, but it does seem to becoming a more common occurrence with female characters lately.
@@blueflare3848 My guess would be that when looking for a quick and easy way to write "strong woman", writers fall back into the same things that we used for "strong men" in the 80's and 90's--brooding, antisocial, cracking one-liners. And not realising that audiences got bored of male characters like that some time ago.
@@paulgibbon5991 I think you're absolutely right. We went from "strong men" being unfeeling and apathetic, and now the "strong female" characters are suffering from the same fate. It's unfortunate because it's often not portrayed in a way that's actually interesting. It just makes the character unlikable. I do believe that it can work when done correctly, but it certainly wasn't executed well in this game.
@@paulgibbon5991 These new characters are even worse, because even the muscle men of the 80s were not as egotistical and narcissistic as the new "strong women" characters. They also had depth from time to time -Rambo had a breakdown at the end of his first movie, the Terminator protected Conner in T2, the muscle bound Schwarzenegger actuallu cared for his kids in Kindergarten Cop. Most of these strong women charactes are completely shallow, entitled, insecure, and narcissistic. Bloody John McClane has more humility and humanity than these new characters.
The worst part is that they can patch the technical problems with this game; they can even touch up the graphics in later patches. But the dialog is done, the story is done, and you cant patch that; well, I guess you can, but...
5:37 REALLY with that cloak? Like, I'd been an Assassins Creed fan until Origins, and even I get how silly it is that someone covered in weapons can just vanish into crowds. But at least they were wearing colors that people actually wore at the time. And not drawing attention to themselves by openly stealing while loudly talking to themselves.
Why does every other npc in the fantasy world have a different accent, now that I notice it? In the span of like 5 minutes you stumble across flamboyant Italian, Cockney English and Midwestern US within a single city block. In a town that isn't even on Earth. At least settle on one for the setting if you can't create a new one lmao
I think the biggest reason that this game falls flat is the protagonist. The main character in a game is the lens that you experience the world with, so when Frey clearly doesn’t care about the plot, the player has no reason to either. This ruins any immersion while simultaneously making the protagonist really unlikeable.
8:22 Im like fairly fucking certain that bear noise they're using has to be part of a generic sound pack, i swear i've heard that same bear sound in skyrim
It says a lot that on OneyPlays they kept jokingly saying the absolute shittiest dialogue they could come up with only to immediately have the game say that exact dialogue over and over.
Joss Whedon ruined humor. He used Bathos a lot on his TV shows like Buffy, Angel and Firefly. He made it part of his style. And then when he made Avengers he used it there too, and it became one of the biggest movies ever. And as a result the rest of the MCU followed suit and it was inferior, but still successful, but as the MCU got bigger and Bigger, and more entertainment outlets desperately tried to become more like it, the use of Bathos got worse and worse. And now here we are.
The thing about BtVS was, people knew when to stop quipping, and the situation (high school kids having weird supernatural stuff happen to them every week) believably lent itself to the characters using humour to cope with the high stakes and danger they faced. When it hit plot points like Angel's betrayal, Joyce dying or Faith killing a bystander, the show wasn't tripping over itself with jokes, it let the serious moments be serious. Like a lot of things, that formula worked in its original context, and then got copied by people who just figured "characters quipping all the time makes them cool and funny" was universally applicable to every character and setting, and what the Kids These Days were into. Kind of like how Alan Moore wrote the classic that was "Watchmen" and then accidentally started the decade-long trend for dark screwed-up superheroes, written with little or none of his skill.
The "rgb cloak" doesnt look bad It does look out of place though If i saw a robot wearing something like this in a sci fi setting it would be kinda cool but not a girl in a middle ages fantasy setting
Final Fantasy has a tendency to add modern, crystalline touches to their fantasy settings. In FF14 its explained as being from an ancient, advanced civilisation that went extinct. I assume the same designers worked on this.
"How do we make our game engaging to the player?" "What if we turned it into a walking simulator whenever youre engaging with the story. That way the player is in control of what would otherwise be cutscenes?" "But wouldnt that just make them antsy for real gameplay? and what if they dont do what we want them to do?" "We just tell them no. No, you cant grab the bag of money before rescuing homer. No, you cant shoot that kid in the face with a rock to skip the cutscene. No, you cant throw a rock at Tanta Sila. No, you cant run, you just can't." "Perfect! I'll add walking segments to all our cutscenes in place of jumpcuts!"
The bard not actually playing a song is enough to know how little real work was put into this game lol. This was a game that seemed like it could of been pretty cool and fun untill it came out and was trash. Glad I never bought it
I don't have a problem with them stealing an apple in that situation. The dialogue just seems off though. The apple is needed to help Frey from starving, but maybe express some guilt in stealing the apple and pay them back later. The worst part is she ends up giving away the apple anyways.
It's just depressing because the potential idea of the game was good. Too bad the entire studio working on wanted us to like an unlikable MC... among other problems....
"It didn't get any better." has to be one of the best lines to describe this game. Oneyplays playthrough on it is my favorite however, since they literally predict most of the dialogue in this game.
9:25 Wait, so earlier she didn't want to kill the people who had been mutated, byt now she's totally okay with killing these seemingly normal guards? Either she's a hypocrite or she doesn't see guards/police as people, and neither of those possibilities are okay.
Frey routinely being a hypocrite is surprisingly one of few constants in the game. The moment she steals, kills, or does anything questionable and someone calls her out on it she immediately denies she did it. Which gets unintentionally silly when she's accused of "tantacide" and says she didn't do it....after having done it at least twice by that point.
Another example of why you shouldn't pick hardmode in games like this. It doesn't make the AI smarter, doesn't upgrade enemies to more challenging types earlier than you'd see then in lower difficulty settings. Doesn't actually impact the mechanics of the game, it just ups their HP and lowers yours. It's not hardmode, it's tedious mode. Like counting to a thousand, instead of counting to one hundred. Even a 6 year old can count to a thousand, it's just very boring and time consuming, rather like this game.
@@coreywilson8161mean yeh kratos is asshole and unlikeable but we know why he is behave like why he hate god .how Ares fool kratos to kill own family and other gods do not shit about kratos but in forspoken she being asshole for no reason
Based on the fact that he called it a PTW cloak I'm guessing the RGB cloak cost extra money, which makes it hilariously scummy that the character makes a point of saying OOOOH LOOK AT THIS CLOAK IT'S AWESOMEEE and then UGH look at this BASIC cloak for PEASANTS
ok so this is hardly the biggest critique of this game, but it is the only one I haven't seen, the boss was a "lesser deinosuchus" the ladder half of that name being an actual extinct species of crocodile. So either they thought "terrible crocodile" in Greek was a good name for it and didn't know it already was a real thing, or they named it that because it sounds and looks cool without any thought. In summation most RPGs don't name their boss battles "tyrannosaurus" unless it is one
Watching these cutscenes has my mind ablaze at how easily they couldve added to the towns people mechanic wise. Have the challenge dungeons be related to fixing the land and clearing corruption. Letting you setup new little settlements that could have shops with unique and custom gear or something. Have the guy who gives a tour be the mapmaker. Make the game's area maps general and vague at first, then he gives you detailed ones by going to talk to him and showing optional treasures you might've missed. Maybe when you make an area safe enough he can send you couriers with treasure maps directly whenever youre out and about. Give us SOMETHING to make us care instead of being annoyed or apathetic to most of the npcs.
1:43 to be fair, if i was isecaied into a medieval-like world one thing i would hold on to would be my modern material durable comfirtsble shoes that wouldn't give me sores from all the walking without public transportation.
Is simple: if the protagonist doesn't seem to care, why should the players?
This pretty much says it all. Also she us super unlikeable
Epitome of modern day writers. Nothing external or abstract in a character. Just selfish entitled and self obsessed characters. You see it especially in marvel, Disney and western aaa games today. The me me me characters.
Tbf a character that is just done with everything and wants to go home but gets dragged into progressively weirder adventures sounds like a funny gimmick.
@@panonymousbloom5405 Go home and do what? Didn’t she attempted to kill herself when she’s back on Earth? The only real attachment was probably the cat but it rarely got mentioned, if at all. I get it, she’s an orphan in NYC and that probably gives her an attitude and sharp tongue, but there’s a different between being rough around the edges and, as Charlie said it, being a complete asshole
@@The_Primary_Axiom Well, they do say that one of the cardinal rules of writing is "Write What you Know"
... This kind of stuff is all modern millennial and zoomer writers know, apparently...
This game is. The gameplay was programmed. The level was designed. It has graphics. The combat is. The mechanic were. The voice were acted. Truly a game.
Not this shi- again
Of all games I ever played this is definitely one of them!
Really tho? You sure this game didn't spawn out of a black hole?
It exists
This is the gayest comment of all time! You are literally the gayest person ever!!
An upside to Forspoken is that prospective game writers should get a massive confidence boost, if this is how low the bar is to find employment in the industry.
Not if you want to write a story that goes against the "Culture"
Yeah I doubt that cuz the company closed right after this $100 million disaster released.
@@ewjiml "I just blew up a game studio...wItH mY fReAkInG mInD!"
DEI FTW
@@ewjiml Not after finishing the game though, which is where the writing is already done and people had plenty of time to look through the shit and preferably burn it.
"These were people? I can't kill them!"
"Oh hell yeah, killing guards is badass!"
That's a development...
Incredible commentary on law enforcement.
she proves heath ledger's joker correct.
Yep…
Character script written by a high-school drama club
Written by them too
I think the voice actors are alright. I feel sorry for them having to deliver this godawful dialogue
@@SOBEKCrocodileGod Yeah, it's probably just the dialogue at fault. There's only so much even a good voice actor can do with bad dialogue.
@@Aechelian true. Like Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman having to read George Lucas dialogue lol
You seem lost on track man
I want to profusely thank this game for giving me renewed confidence in my writing abilities
Hopefully you make characters your supposed to root for likable in some way.
Lol I wouldn’t. Writing is real hard and I doubt you could do better or you would probably have a good job
@@noirekuroraigami2270 gr8 b8 m8
@@noirekuroraigami2270 Good writing will not give you a job lmao
@@noirekuroraigami2270 I've seen fanfictions written in a couple hours with better writing than AAA games and multi season long shows. Good writing means jack shit as long as the dudes in charge eat it up lol
Charlie was right. Kratos was only a giant douche when it benefited him. He was rather cordial if brash to innocent bystanders he thought didn't deserve his wrath.
We all know how merciless Young Kratos could be, but a lot of people overlook that he wasn’t a jerk to you for no reason
He gave just about every boss not named Zeus and Ares a chance to walk away, and only fatalitied them when they insisted on pressing him further
Ofc there was the instance of Poseidon’s mistress, but that example is an outlier during a game when Kratos was slipping in terms of his composure (GOW 3)
Uhm, might want to replay the first 3 games again. Kratos is a monster in those and ripped innocent bystanders apart.
@@TheAssirra Mainly in GoW3. That was him going all in on his attack on Olympus. In the first two games he killed innocent people sure, but it was to demonstrate how single minded he was. He burned a soldier alive in the first game, not because he was annoyed by him, but because it was the only way to move forward in Pandora's temple. The only person he was unnecessarily a jerk to was the boat captain, but I think that was the dev's attempt at a running gag.
@JRP bro, did you only watch the cut scenes?? Playing as Kratos, innocent bystanders gave you health lol
Except when he needs you to Read.
He asked you to Hold a Door.
You Got in his Climbing Paths.
You Asked for help.
Yeah... He was Cordial to a limit.
Except when you use 2 Seconds of his time.
"oh no we cant kill people"
5 mins later kills 4 soldiers while saying stuff like "Awesome" and "alriiight"
Yeah, its pretty bad
"Oh no"
So anyways I started blastin'
Main character is very mature, she just got over it real fast ^_^
Star Wars: ex stormtrooper Finn leaves the order after fellow trooper dies, few days later becomes excited for killing stormtroopers
@@Lyko5true, same energy
@@nomisignal6026 this game has so much potential in all levels and they did not develop any of them, it looks like an unfinished game with an unfinished story
I swear modern writers saw Iron Man 1 and decided that Tony Stark's only attribute was snarky. And then they decided that that's the only attribute they'd give to their own characters because they're all incompetent.
Tony is snarky, but he's also a pretty heroic and decent person at his core. This chick is just insufferable.
Personally I think it’s ok if the main character started out a bit annoying or unlikable but what’s important is to make them a better person as the story goes on. No one wants to watch some egotistical douche go through the story and learn absolutely nothing
@@henrytheanglerfish6290 Right? If only the concept of character arcs had been created before this game was developed lol…
@@henrytheanglerfish6290No no, never make them unlikable. Because then it's harder for the majority of audiences to relate and root for them, it's ok to make them a bit obnoxious or annoying but they still need a likeable quality like maybe while annoying they still don't want innocent ppl getting hurt, or they volunteer at a animal shelter because they love animals. Storytelling 101 is always make sure the main character WANTS to be a real hero by establishing their better qualities earlier so that way their growth to being better is believable because said better traits are amplified through that development.
Tony Snark
"I'm gonna see if the game gets any better."
*A FEW HOURS LATER*
"It didn't get any better!"
That is a thing that happened, yes.
Yes we saw the video
Y’all some buzzkills, he repeated it cause he found that part funny😂
Yes we saw the video
11:40 is not cringe, it’s actually disappointing that professional writers embrace such a mean-spirited character. Why would we want to immerse ourselves in an alternate world if we are constantly being exposed to juvenile behavior which pulls us immediately out of the immersion of the story? I don’t get it either…
I have an answer but I don't want to get cancelled
@@hannibalburgers477 i already know your answer, but it still wouldnt make sens in the context she in
This is what happens when wokeness is allowed to fail its way upwards. You get socially awkward hipsters writing their Mary Sue self-inserts
Seriously, I've seen Edward kenway from assassin's Creed black flag be nicer than this and the entire thing was that his character is a greedy, mean spirited bastard who doesn't care about what happens to others as seen with what he indirectly caused for the assassins around the early-mid point of the story, but he generally had some real appreciation for his crew
It’s not even a matter of being unable to connect with a character that’s a bad guy, but if there’s no overall redeeming or at least entertaining qualities then it’s a fail. Take a show like Always Sunny. They’re all technically terrible ppl, but with great humor and writing you still root for them. Basically the same for Seinfeld as well.
You know a game is bad when someone changes the difficulty from hard to easy not because the game is too hard but because it just makes fights boring. Like bruh hard modes should make combat more engaging. 💀
They do, Cuff loses protection quicker and you take more damage. Also, seen plenty of walkthroughs and only ONE managed to tap into the vastness of combat mechanics and magic. People suck playing this
@@simaopinto8521 Why should they get engaged with it if the characters and world are so boring/mean for no reason they're not worth exploring or sticking around for?
@@simaopinto8521 Nah, the game isn’t actually harder on the higher difficulties. Just turning enemies into bullet sponges doesn’t equal difficulty and challenge. It just draws out the already terrible gameplay
@@simaopinto8521 That'd be valid is the AI was actually capable of hitting you
@@simaopinto8521 that's the thing though if the enemies and bosses have 2 attacks and just walk around pointlessly for half the fight why would anyone even bother mastering it like you are given no reason to try to master the system cause no matter how cool you combo your spells it will make no difference since the enemies will not react to in a meaningful way
apparently, according to mainstream and normies, swearing and having potty mouth for no particular reason count as "mature" or "adult" themed...
its so immature...
I blame "adult" cartoons for that
Mf said potty mouth 💀
@@Chud_Bud_Supreme
Adult cartoons are not the cause wtf lol.
Those shows are made around the swearing as its base humor.
This game was not made like that at all xD
You sound like one of those parents who blames Family Guy for why their child is a bully at school.
Grow up
They just want a badass girlboss protagonist that steals things and treats others like shit because girl power woke culture you know... Typical stuff basement dwelling Twitter users would push towards
Yeah it's like this game was made by highschoolers who do somewhat act like this lol
Lesson learned. Never give special power to anyone from New York
Bro did my man spiderman dirty
Except spidey
How about just not American women?
@Tom Snowden as an American woman I agree
Marvel: nervous sweating.
My god, the writing in this is actually atrocious. As a writer myself, this gives me genuine pain.
I don't wanna seem insensitive, but here in Europe she looks like the average American speaking or at the least the image they try to sell us of US citizens
@@simaopinto8521 Nobody gives a fuck europoor
Real Americans don't act like Frey, and would dislike anyone who did. Thinking this game accurately represents American culture and behavior would be like me assuming "365 Days" is a good representation Polish culture. It just isn't. They're both just poorly crafted works, and that's that. :/
@@simaopinto8521 Frey represents what upper class coastal liberals think black people think and act like. They don’t know anyone from an actual marginalized community, or any regular American people. Imagine this character is social justice fan fiction that doesn’t represent reality of how Americans are.
As a writer yourself, can you provide input on why the writing here fails? I would like a professional judgement.
They really need to stop pairing these "strong woman" characters with garbage writers cause its getting exhausting
Needs someone like Freya
they need to pay good writers in general
@@sarahimran946
Hell yeah, Freya is awesome
@@sarahimran946Freya is peak honestly
Ah, but you see, the garbage writers use the "strong female character" as a smokescreen for their bad writing because they know if they do that theyll get virtue brownie points and hopefully people wont be allowed to criticize them.
She, Velma, and She-Hulk is the unholy trinity of toxic characters masquerading as "complicated/complex"
@@fudgepacker2858 Possibly, but likely not, the executive producer, Mindy Kaling, has a history of writing weird self-inserts like Velma.
@@fudgepacker2858 I like to think I have a pretty good grasp on the English language but my man I’ve got no fuckin idea what you’re trying to say lmao. A show isn’t bad if just 1 person with bad taste likes it? Who tf have you ever in your life seen sincerely believe that? Nobody is who, because you’re bad-faithing the argument exactly like people always do whenever this show comes up on UA-cam. I swear I’ve never seen a mid sitcom get so many folks’ panties so twisted.
Of course there are qualities of poorly made media, nobody anywhere is saying there aren’t. Why don’t you point out some of She-Hulk’s toxic qualities that make the entire show so “objectively” bad.
@Goldmaaaaan oh yeah. The chick that controls her anger while being angry. To the Hulk of all things. Bruce Banner who is hunted down like an animal across the planet by the US government for years. Slipped into a depression so bad that even a bullet to the head could not grant him peace.
But being cat called is miles higher than suicide. That She-Hulk?
@@Goldmaaaaan it’s not exactly healthy to compare trauma with your cousin who tried to kill himself and had an abusive dad. Even worse when her “trauma” is being catcalled
@@fudgepacker2858Nah, Mindy Kaling's acting and writing is so shit that the only way for us to believe it exists is to assume it was intentionally bad.
The only thing better than all the well deserved hate this game gets is all the salty goobers that are dumb enough to defend this terrible game.
It's not Awful. It should simply cost 2 bucks
Whos defending this I have to see lol
Straw
@@simaopinto8521 it should be free to play
@@DEEZYD1230 I agree
Square Enix attempts to employ diversity in their main character design: a “mixed race” female character portrayed as a homeless inner city criminal who values her sneakers above all else, who doesn’t know who her parents are, and who is rude and disrespectful to every character with whom she interacts, including the actual player.
The greatest black-stereotype....😆🔫
She had such a problem killing infected humans, but I guess she got over that pretty quickly once the normal ones in armor came to apprehend her.
The bracelet saving her life giving her ability to do everything, it’s telling her something to help her survive and she’s like “shut the fuck up!”
As Asmongold said: "What's that game called, foreskin or something"
@Randy Wtf are you even talking about
@Randy do you call every joke a bait?
@Randy Remember, if you can't think of anything clever to say, just say "bait;" or "that's the joke;" or just post some skull emojis. Apropos of nothing, just be snarky and condescending
Like Frey
@Randy Cope and seethe
@Randy Rent free
This game is giving me some "She-Hulk" vibes
This game’s dialogue is so bad that I think that’s unfair to She-Hulk 🤣
@@SOBEKCrocodileGod So... Velma?
@@CrystalWings12 Velma is on her own category
@@SOBEKCrocodileGod No, She Hulk is just as bad or worse
@@brandonframe1743 just as bad maybe but I think Forspoken is much worse
The screen went black for a second and I saw my own reflection. I looked so unimpressed and tired that I broke out laughing.
I love how the devs just took the name of an extinct crocodile and used it as a name for a... glowy tentacle creature.
I was thinking the same thing watching that boss fight. They couldn’t even come up with an original name, lol.
@@124Nightwing Pros, fr fr
That's hilarious! 😂
for real, i immediately thought that too
if they wanted to use the dinosauria sounding names they couldve made there own latin names but i guess google translate is too hard
So many fantasy games do this, drives me insane.
“Yeah I fight dragons now that’s something I do now” 😡😡😡😡😡
Now this is pod racing
This game was written and performed by ADHD afflicted tiktokers with Narcissistic Personality Disorders.
YOU ARE TEARING ME APART, FREY!
@@kaj7135 bro i got ADHD and this shit makes me cringe so much
@@kaj7135don't insult them by comparing them to this writing
It's almost like when the protagonist isn't talking it works better.
god bless Far Cry, imagine if the character speaks
I remember Forspoken's reveal trailer. It had no dialogue, just Frey running without saying a word, looking cool with a cloak hiding her face. It definitely set an intriguing tone.
@@erichvondonitz5325 Yeah except for the parts where most Far Cry protagonists speak
The game had potential, the magic looks cool and fun to traverse with in the world, but once I saw the battles and dialogue you know all the potential this game had was thrown into the toilet
@@erichvondonitz5325 well they do since 3
My reasoning as to why writers decide to create such unlikable protagonists is because they probably look at characters like Kratos and think:
“Hey, this guy’s an absolute asshole and people love him for it! Let’s make our own protag like that!”
But they completely miss the point. We don’t love Kratos from God of War because he’s objectively a bad person, it’s because of who he is as a character and his journey that led him to become the way he is.
The whole of God of War 1 has us uncovering Kratos’ origins: why he’s called the Ghost of Sparta, why his skin is pure white, why he hates Ares so much, where he got the Blades of Chaos from, why he’s both feared and hated, etc.
If you give your character a compelling reason for being unlikable, the players will come to empathize with your character. Otherwise, you’ll wind up with someone like her who’s just an asshole for the sake of being an asshole.
Women are convinced men don’t have the capacity to appreciate character development or depth
I think it's because these games are written by 35 year old single activist women who think this is what edgy young teens are like.
Amicia from A plaque tale does not curse, isn't as powerful but is a hundred times more badass and likeable then frey.
If you were to ask me what Forspoken's biggest problem is, it would be the price. $70 does set some high expectations, if it sold for $15-$30 range then more folk would probably give it more positive or at lest neutral reviews of it. but that is my thoughts on it.
💯. I might play it at $30. $70 is just ridiculous.
Man, we're getting scammed a bit more here in France. The game costs 80€ here, which is approximately $86, that's just fucking crazy. I wish people would stop paying for garbage games like this at full price, it encourages companies to sell at even higher prices, in a few years, it'll cost $100 to play some shitty rushed game.
@@theboss8880 actually in canada its 89.99 and our taxes bring it to 100$
It sucks
@@spencer6709 Damn, that's why i always buy games when they're on sale, unless it's something that i've been waiting for years. Still sucks for you guys though.
With that level of writing, pirating would honestly be charitable as it's taking up precious space on the SSD.
11:39 The look of confusion and discuss in Charlie reaction in her remark is priceless.
I’m convinced this game is a psyop by the industry to get gamers to realize what a bad game REALLY looks like
How is forspoken then any different from every other game release this past decade? 😂
Cuz its bad in a unique way???
@@hisaceinthehole3426 I dunno, Forspoken was just a special kind of bad.
@@hisaceinthehole3426yes, exactly, you just said yourself why it's different
@@troyklein6379 oh. Ok.
It's writing is bad in a unique way 😂@@hisaceinthehole3426
As a wise man once said "the enemy AI is far more A than I"
Internet Historian on Fallout 76 for those who don't know.
@@heavyhauler426W
What i see here is a perfect example of "expensive doesn't mean good". That's pretty much one of the few positive things forspoken had.
I stopped playing it after 1 hour and 39 minutes and refunded it after I got annoyed enough at the characters, uninteresting combat/AI and the TERRIBLE dialogue.
Thank god for the refund system
Idk why you ever bought it before seeing what others said and shown tbh but good to hear you got a refund!
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls
Maybe because he is one of those rare people that form their own opinions after testing the products rather than disliking/liking the product based on what the majority of people say about it.
@@warchiefvenomn7612 Ah yes cuz watching people play the game is not forming your own opinion from what you see, ofc you only take what is said by them and cannot see beyond their words! If you can’t tell I’m mocking you cuz you missed the part of “shown” and only saw the “what others said” part of my message lol
I mean you can try to waste time and money to play it first hand that is a valid thing to do cuz it is different when you play it yourself but you run the risk of not being able to return it depending on factors.
I didn’t say he had to take anyone’s word but it can’t hurt to see what is being said by any and all, but also see the game like there’s no commentary channels for play throughs and such, you can see the game for yourself without buying it, you do know this, right?
Anyways yeah thanks for the dumbass comment captain obvious, fuck off.
@@warchiefvenomn7612 Ah yes cuz watching people play the game is not forming your own opinion from what you see, ofc you only take what is said by them and cannot see beyond their words! If you can’t tell I’m mocking you cuz you missed the part of “shown” and only saw the “what others said” part of my message lol
I mean you can try to waste time and money to play it first hand that is a valid thing to do cuz it is different when you play it yourself but you run the risk of not being able to return it depending on factors.
I didn’t say he had to take anyone’s word but it can’t hurt to see what is being said by any and all, but also see the game like there’s no commentary channels for play throughs and such, you can see the game for yourself without buying it, you do know this, right?
Anyways yeah thanks for the basic ass comment captain obvious.
The sad part is the framework for something good *is* there. It's there but the people making it are too busy sniffing their own farts to make it good.
"Wat you say!???111! Foreskeen bery gud gaem!"
@oompalumpus699
Dilate
8:06 was that Skyrim bear attack sound.
A stock sound, but yeah. Its not uncommon for animal sounds, sounds of cars, explosions etc to get handled this way as its cheap and inoffensive.
@@filipvadas7602 Yeah, whenever I heard the same horse sounds in RDR2 and The Walking Dead it threw me off.
Once you hear the stock wolf and stock deer sounds you'll NEVER not hear it
Literally lmao
@@NeverOhVerAlso the same sound for the card grizzly bear in hearthstone
Shout out to each of these streamers for suffering through this game so we don’t have to
I've never really paid attention to them before but games like this have made me appreciate silent protagonists a lot more.
Forspoken made me appreciate Tales of the abyss protagonist luke fon fabre's character development and the best part is that Dev's wanted you to hate him in act 1. But act 2 and onwards he's one of the most well-written protagonists of the entire tale series or even video games.
100% they wanted a character development arc like Luke's and just forgot to add the part where she stops being an insufferable lowlife.
Man, they really pushed it with Luke though. I was so close to dropping that game because of how insufferable he was. The only reason I didn’t is because I was told he eventually gets better. I wouldn’t have stomached it if I didn’t know.
@@RanOutOfSpac it was a risky choice on the writers part but it worked
How do you compare Tales of the Abyss, which is basically a masterpiece with this trash?
@@JackTwoFingers Because both the games main characters Frey and Luke have a bit in common with each other. Luke, like Frey is condescending, Rude to companions. And both wanted more out of their lives (Luke wanted to leave the Manor as he's been there for his entire life prior to the game)
(Frey Wanted to leave her Crappy abandoned apartment for something better)
Both get thrown into a conflict they really had no desire to be in and both also have a massive ego (hero complex especially Luke)
Of course there are massive differences.
you could see how luke changes throughout the story from an arrogant Noble boy with the emotional maturity of a 7-year old, to a depressed moral do-gooder with an existential crisis, to a genuine hero.
Meanwhile Frey hardly changes throughout her story and suddenly she wants to help these people in despite telling them to fuck off throughout
This game is the epitome of modern writing
There’s just so much potential this game could have had.
*spoilers for one of the endings but I doubt anyone cares* They should have made a scene or a feature in the game where you can take pictures with the NPCs with your phone and make memories (You know, if the NPCs were memorable). But if you choose the ending where you leave, it would leave a consequence other than leaving a world, you forget the people you forged bonds with. The photos you took disappear, as does Frey’s memory of being there at all. Like it was a bad dream.
So at least that way one of the endings have some kind of meaning, if at all small. (I’m just kinda spit balling here)
I think this already makes it more interesting than what they went with.
@@blueflare3848 As much as I appreciate the compliment, it ain't hard beating that story.
Modern feminism thinks women being constantly abrasive, snippy, unapproachable, narcissistic, and confrontational, really anything that makes a person unlikeable, equals a strong female character
Really has nothing to do with "modern feminism" characters like this have existed far longer than most people in this comment section. It's just bad writing, written by a dude
@@punusername3445 no it is still modern feminism at okay here as well
They do not know how to write strong characters like Sarah Connor or Ridley
They write women that want to be and act like men
@@punusername3445not true, actually the game was written by two women and one man
"Yikes! Bad take. Y'all just need to do better 🤓"
Funny when thats most of the female characters written in a mans game or book.
This game was so bad Square Enix is shutting down the studio that made it, Luminous Productions, effective May 1st, they're absorbing the devs into their own company and decided they'd be better off not working on their own project, if this is what they can do
Good. Square Enix is actually doing something right for once.
Basically an Isekai, but done horribly 🤦♀️
Whoops, tautology!
Implies any Isekai is actually good >
@@punusername3445 I've watched some pretty bad ones so no not all are good. I'm sorry you needed clarification 🙄
@@LalaRojas-jd5rc Which ones are good?
@@Chud_Bud_Supreme Jobless Reincarnation, Re:Zero, Konosuba is a comedy. Tanya the Evil, Cautious Hero is a comedy also. Ascendance of a Bookworm is really good and underrated. So I'm a Spider is also good a bit confusing at first but gets easier understand. The Devil is a Part Timer is good except it's a REVERSE Isekai. Shield Hero is good, Uncle from Another World is good also. Reincarnated as a Slime included. These are some of the ones I can think off the top of my head. But to me these are good. If you watch em' judge for yourself.
I tried playing the game myself and wanted to give it a fair shot but the wave of elation that passed over me when I didn't have Wi-Fi for a while and couldn't play the game told me everything I needed to know.
Strong woman = Woman who's rude and sarcastic to everyone
I hate the wave of writers today who get hired only because they have politics to push and still, they do it badly.
Being strong does not mean being rude or uncaring or abrasive for absolutely no reason. I wish more writers would acknowledge this. I will say, this trope has been done with male characters as well, but it does seem to becoming a more common occurrence with female characters lately.
@@blueflare3848 My guess would be that when looking for a quick and easy way to write "strong woman", writers fall back into the same things that we used for "strong men" in the 80's and 90's--brooding, antisocial, cracking one-liners. And not realising that audiences got bored of male characters like that some time ago.
@@paulgibbon5991 I think you're absolutely right. We went from "strong men" being unfeeling and apathetic, and now the "strong female" characters are suffering from the same fate. It's unfortunate because it's often not portrayed in a way that's actually interesting. It just makes the character unlikable. I do believe that it can work when done correctly, but it certainly wasn't executed well in this game.
@@paulgibbon5991 These new characters are even worse, because even the muscle men of the 80s were not as egotistical and narcissistic as the new "strong women" characters. They also had depth from time to time -Rambo had a breakdown at the end of his first movie, the Terminator protected Conner in T2, the muscle bound Schwarzenegger actuallu cared for his kids in Kindergarten Cop. Most of these strong women charactes are completely shallow, entitled, insecure, and narcissistic. Bloody John McClane has more humility and humanity than these new characters.
@@obligatoryusername7239 Be wary of comparing the best of one generation to the worst of another.
The worst part is that they can patch the technical problems with this game; they can even touch up the graphics in later patches. But the dialog is done, the story is done, and you cant patch that; well, I guess you can, but...
it amazes me this game has only mixed and 60/70 %..... its literally on the level of asset flips sold on steam for 10$
The moment when she forspoke too much in the game it made me cry, a truly forspoken moment
this video was actual gold. all the way through. Asmon constantly getting interrupted by the game characters talking was peak, lmao.
5:37 REALLY with that cloak? Like, I'd been an Assassins Creed fan until Origins, and even I get how silly it is that someone covered in weapons can just vanish into crowds. But at least they were wearing colors that people actually wore at the time. And not drawing attention to themselves by openly stealing while loudly talking to themselves.
This game looks insanely good no wonder it got an entire studio shut down
Why does every other npc in the fantasy world have a different accent, now that I notice it?
In the span of like 5 minutes you stumble across flamboyant Italian, Cockney English and Midwestern US within a single city block. In a town that isn't even on Earth. At least settle on one for the setting if you can't create a new one lmao
What possessed them to make _High Guardian Spice_ into a video game? Good grief!
You apologise to High Guardian Spice right now. At least half of the main cast in that show wasnt openly abrasive to everyone they met.
I think the biggest reason that this game falls flat is the protagonist. The main character in a game is the lens that you experience the world with, so when Frey clearly doesn’t care about the plot, the player has no reason to either. This ruins any immersion while simultaneously making the protagonist really unlikeable.
Pay $70 to listen to a boring character that will annoy you with every word they say? What have we done
Explaining mundane modern technology to fantasy-medieval people never stops being cringe.
But it is a cringe situation. What's the need in calling it out? Y'all are pathetic🤣
@@simaopinto8521 "Yawl"
Found the Twitter psycho
@@simaopinto8521 spotted the paid sponsor
@@tonypringles2285 I can’t wait to add (main character name) to my funko pop collection! (Game name) is the greatest game ever!
Funny in concept until you realize it just boils down to the same joke and unfunny tone.
11:53 More people need to understand this
Excellent compilation editing and even the edits with sources for streamers, always a good touch to freshen up basic pop ups for viewing.
8:22 Im like fairly fucking certain that bear noise they're using has to be part of a generic sound pack, i swear i've heard that same bear sound in skyrim
It says a lot that on OneyPlays they kept jokingly saying the absolute shittiest dialogue they could come up with only to immediately have the game say that exact dialogue over and over.
Joss Whedon ruined humor. He used Bathos a lot on his TV shows like Buffy, Angel and Firefly. He made it part of his style.
And then when he made Avengers he used it there too, and it became one of the biggest movies ever. And as a result the rest of the MCU followed suit and it was inferior, but still successful, but as the MCU got bigger and Bigger, and more entertainment outlets desperately tried to become more like it, the use of Bathos got worse and worse.
And now here we are.
The thing about BtVS was, people knew when to stop quipping, and the situation (high school kids having weird supernatural stuff happen to them every week) believably lent itself to the characters using humour to cope with the high stakes and danger they faced. When it hit plot points like Angel's betrayal, Joyce dying or Faith killing a bystander, the show wasn't tripping over itself with jokes, it let the serious moments be serious.
Like a lot of things, that formula worked in its original context, and then got copied by people who just figured "characters quipping all the time makes them cool and funny" was universally applicable to every character and setting, and what the Kids These Days were into. Kind of like how Alan Moore wrote the classic that was "Watchmen" and then accidentally started the decade-long trend for dark screwed-up superheroes, written with little or none of his skill.
@@paulgibbon5991 ikr there are absolutely ZERO examples of good writing after those started the trend.
The main Heroine: Afroamerican
The plot twist of game: She steals
🗿
corny
The "rgb cloak" doesnt look bad
It does look out of place though
If i saw a robot wearing something like this in a sci fi setting it would be kinda cool but not a girl in a middle ages fantasy setting
Final Fantasy has a tendency to add modern, crystalline touches to their fantasy settings. In FF14 its explained as being from an ancient, advanced civilisation that went extinct.
I assume the same designers worked on this.
It looks terrible.
"How do we make our game engaging to the player?"
"What if we turned it into a walking simulator whenever youre engaging with the story. That way the player is in control of what would otherwise be cutscenes?"
"But wouldnt that just make them antsy for real gameplay? and what if they dont do what we want them to do?"
"We just tell them no. No, you cant grab the bag of money before rescuing homer. No, you cant shoot that kid in the face with a rock to skip the cutscene. No, you cant throw a rock at Tanta Sila. No, you cant run, you just can't."
"Perfect! I'll add walking segments to all our cutscenes in place of jumpcuts!"
A proper title for this game should be,
Isekai Dragonborn: Millennial and Annoying
I like how Frey constantly hated on Vambrace, who was the person who told her every single idea she ever had.
The bard not actually playing a song is enough to know how little real work was put into this game lol.
This was a game that seemed like it could of been pretty cool and fun untill it came out and was trash. Glad I never bought it
I don't have a problem with them stealing an apple in that situation. The dialogue just seems off though. The apple is needed to help Frey from starving, but maybe express some guilt in stealing the apple and pay them back later. The worst part is she ends up giving away the apple anyways.
It's just depressing because the potential idea of the game was good. Too bad the entire studio working on wanted us to like an unlikable MC... among other problems....
I love how Asmongold is trying to say something nice about the game at the end but then he has to tell the cuff to shut up 😂
I was sad when I finished Elden Ring because I knew an endless supply of turds like this would be released before we get another gem.
Might not be your style, but have you tried HiFi RUSH? That's definitely a diamond in the rough
God of War Ragnarok came out after Elden Ring, and that game is really fun.
@@atrane365 That game made my January, wonderful
14:52 I was entertained enough already with the reactions when I couldn't help to notice that smooth transition
14:53 I see that smooth cut, well edited dude!
"It didn't get any better." has to be one of the best lines to describe this game. Oneyplays playthrough on it is my favorite however, since they literally predict most of the dialogue in this game.
9:25 Wait, so earlier she didn't want to kill the people who had been mutated, byt now she's totally okay with killing these seemingly normal guards? Either she's a hypocrite or she doesn't see guards/police as people, and neither of those possibilities are okay.
Frey routinely being a hypocrite is surprisingly one of few constants in the game. The moment she steals, kills, or does anything questionable and someone calls her out on it she immediately denies she did it. Which gets unintentionally silly when she's accused of "tantacide" and says she didn't do it....after having done it at least twice by that point.
Imagine spending $70 for Joss Whedon's Street Urchin Isekai.
Another example of why you shouldn't pick hardmode in games like this. It doesn't make the AI smarter, doesn't upgrade enemies to more challenging types earlier than you'd see then in lower difficulty settings. Doesn't actually impact the mechanics of the game, it just ups their HP and lowers yours. It's not hardmode, it's tedious mode. Like counting to a thousand, instead of counting to one hundred. Even a 6 year old can count to a thousand, it's just very boring and time consuming, rather like this game.
"Its not the worst game ever made. How ever i would not say its the best game ever made"
Asmongold with the grounbreaking hot take.
From the looks of it the ai, world design, and story/dialogue would be almost passable from an indie developer a decade ago.
Charlie has a point about kratos XD
How ?
@@coreywilson8161mean yeh kratos is asshole and unlikeable but we know why he is behave like why he hate god .how Ares fool kratos to kill own family and other gods do not shit about kratos but in forspoken she being asshole for no reason
Holy shit these enemies AI is embarrassing. You're basically shooting stationary targets.
I almost think that a Lego star wars style mumble mode for this game would make it 10x better
What makes this video so hard to watch now is the realization that it wasnt made for any of the guys playing it.
9:34 that is a "what am i doing with my life" face
Based on the fact that he called it a PTW cloak I'm guessing the RGB cloak cost extra money, which makes it hilariously scummy that the character makes a point of saying OOOOH LOOK AT THIS CLOAK IT'S AWESOMEEE and then UGH look at this BASIC cloak for PEASANTS
I've never seen a game campaign harder for the concept of the silent protagonist in my entire life
*Asmongold tries to compliment the game*
The game: "I don't need you help, thank you very much".
It's a shame Asmon is too much of a hypocrite
@@davemustang8173 Because the game he made was bad?
@@taelib1425 because asmon takes anything as an insult
He's the Chris Stuckmann of gaming. Don't like it? iTs jUsT tHe wAy iT Issss.
He's a fucking fence sitter.
ok so this is hardly the biggest critique of this game, but it is the only one I haven't seen, the boss was a "lesser deinosuchus" the ladder half of that name being an actual extinct species of crocodile. So either they thought "terrible crocodile" in Greek was a good name for it and didn't know it already was a real thing, or they named it that because it sounds and looks cool without any thought. In summation most RPGs don't name their boss battles "tyrannosaurus" unless it is one
Forspoken should have been called forgotten...
"But we're competing with hogwarts legacy, so if you don't like our game, that must mean you're a transphobe!!!!!!!!"
Watching these cutscenes has my mind ablaze at how easily they couldve added to the towns people mechanic wise.
Have the challenge dungeons be related to fixing the land and clearing corruption. Letting you setup new little settlements that could have shops with unique and custom gear or something.
Have the guy who gives a tour be the mapmaker. Make the game's area maps general and vague at first, then he gives you detailed ones by going to talk to him and showing optional treasures you might've missed. Maybe when you make an area safe enough he can send you couriers with treasure maps directly whenever youre out and about.
Give us SOMETHING to make us care instead of being annoyed or apathetic to most of the npcs.
10:35 so let me get this straight she’s whining she has to kill monster that were once people but is okay with killing people after a few seconds
The gaurd at that bard... Frey "got away"... how? XD The gaurd didn't follow the person she seems to think is "the criminal", why???
Frey’s up there as being one of the worst protagonists ever in video games
Damn the protagonist must be a kleptomaniac or something
She is
I can’t even imagine trying to make this dialogue sound good. I feel bad for the voice actors
Combat is giving me, "We playtested it... sure we did most of the playtesting ourselves, but it's good! We swear!"
1:43 to be fair, if i was isecaied into a medieval-like world one thing i would hold on to would be my modern material durable comfirtsble shoes that wouldn't give me sores from all the walking without public transportation.