Forspoken - 1 Year Later

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  • Опубліковано 29 сер 2024

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  • @ThatBoyAqua
    @ThatBoyAqua  Місяць тому +30

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    • @Xerom619
      @Xerom619 Місяць тому +1

      😮

    • @zaskiaalsakila7248
      @zaskiaalsakila7248 Місяць тому +1

      Your sponsored game Kaku looks way better than Forspoken yeah! Looks like a lot of love and attention put into it.

  • @beat1375
    @beat1375 Місяць тому +1166

    The section about "Being excited for Forspoken because it slightly resembled something close to inFAMOUS" hit WAY too close home 😔

    • @jonathandear4914
      @jonathandear4914 Місяць тому +48

      fr, we need more games like this to fill that void

    • @squallthegriever
      @squallthegriever Місяць тому +27

      Same. As a matter of fact, I'd argue Frey and Delsin have similar personalities and when i was playing this game I wanted to have Delsin Neon run throw this game with her as a co op.

    • @mjay6245
      @mjay6245 Місяць тому +43

      ​​@@squallthegriever The fact that you talked about Delsin and not Cole makes me sad.

    • @-pROvAK
      @-pROvAK Місяць тому +2

      Nothing about it ever resembled inFAMOUS in any way

    • @myherobeaste7
      @myherobeaste7 Місяць тому +15

      @@-pROvAKthe gameplay dude

  • @ikoukuhn
    @ikoukuhn Місяць тому +609

    I hate it when a game does "you have to play XX hours until it gets good" move. Early hours should be the most important factor for people sticking to the game.

    • @0potion
      @0potion Місяць тому +60

      It's the RPG mindset because in a good RPG the first couple of levels will always be slower Gameplay wise. But the things about those games that used to draw people in was they had really great opening stories to draw your attention to get past the lower levels into the fun stuff.

    • @thetruestar6348
      @thetruestar6348 Місяць тому +22

      It’s bad from start to finish there’s no good part

    • @busdrivertedd983
      @busdrivertedd983 Місяць тому +14

      It's what annoys me about Days Gone. I absolutely love the game after you get to Iron Mike's, but you have to slog through that first part before the game truly starts to get really good

    • @SammEater
      @SammEater Місяць тому +18

      Even Red Dead Redemption 2 has this problem, that entire first chapter is unplayable on a second playthrough, it is so freakin boring.

    • @Altr3551
      @Altr3551 Місяць тому +9

      ​​​@@0potion It gets good later only works in traditional RPGs where most of the character kit gets unlocked as game progresses though.
      Doesnt really hit home for action RPGs.

  • @antonioc.5778
    @antonioc.5778 Місяць тому +619

    "Did I just really shut down a studio with my mind?"

  • @andremasters1
    @andremasters1 Місяць тому +376

    one funny thing is that the team behind Forspoken approached Brandon Sanderson (a very famous fantasy writer) to see if he was interested in working with them. Offer that he had to say no to due to already being involved with another video game (Moonbreaker) and being busy with his own projects so in an alternative world the writing of the game or at least the construction of the world could have been so much better

    • @nathandavis435
      @nathandavis435 Місяць тому +25

      I don't know how much his contribution would have fully shone through in a writer's room, but I think he would certainly have been a good compass for the rest of the team to consider and follow, likely having some knock-on effects, especially on the beginning. I know this is a matter of opinion as much as anything else, but I really do feel that Sanderson can really write a rock solid beginning, which would have guided people to the mid and end game where the writers already attached seem to be a little stronger.

    • @heretic124
      @heretic124 Місяць тому +10

      Didn't know that. Have they approached him about Forspoken or possibly about Mistborn video game? Because I can easily see how Forspoken's gameplay could be easily modified to fit Mistborn lore.

    • @MetastaticMaladies
      @MetastaticMaladies Місяць тому +5

      It really wouldn’t have mattered, you can still have a shit story and a good game. The gameplay of Forspoken is just boring and shallow.

    • @lancearnedo7837
      @lancearnedo7837 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@MetastaticMaladieswhat? The only thing people have praised about forspoken is it's gameplay but if you mean what you do in the game instead of the combat system then I guess you're right

    • @MetastaticMaladies
      @MetastaticMaladies Місяць тому +2

      @@lancearnedo7837 I haven’t seen many praise the gameplay, but I’ve played it and it’s boring af. The skills are very limited and there’s little variation between them, not particularly fun to use either. The only fun thing about gameplay is the “parkour” but it gets old after a while. I thought there’d be more spells/skills based on the skill tree but it’s pretty lackluster. Also the enemies aren’t fun to fight either, except maybe the dragon.

  • @StateBlaze1989
    @StateBlaze1989 Місяць тому +143

    Forspoken is one of those games where any positives it has are pushed out the window by having a badly written protagonist. Why would I want to engage with any of the potentially good gameplay if I can't stand the character I am going to be controlling for the entirety of it?

    • @AzureRoxe
      @AzureRoxe Місяць тому +23

      Even the devs knew people would hate it cause there's a way to lower, and outright remove, the constant conversations with Cuff as you play.

    • @hihihi1q23
      @hihihi1q23 Місяць тому +2

      The protagonist isn't really 'badly written.' She's just generic.

    • @Vaguer_Weevil
      @Vaguer_Weevil 29 днів тому +1

      ​@@AzureRoxe
      You know it's bad when you're stepping into the shoes of Bubsy. They also had a speech slider, and they weren't even set at maximum by default.

    • @Kaimax61
      @Kaimax61 20 днів тому +1

      @@hihihi1q23 No, that's badly written. Generic is Cole Mcgrath levels.

    • @SundayMatinee
      @SundayMatinee 17 днів тому

      @@hihihi1q23 Not generic. Obnoxious, entitled, selfish, and generally miserable. Most people aren't this bad. And if they are, I avoid them like the plague.

  • @AzureRoxe
    @AzureRoxe Місяць тому +48

    My favorite thing about this game is that, as someone who played Final Fantasy XV, they didn't even TRY to hide the fact they reused a ton of stuff from it. Many animations are taken straight from Noctis's moveset, it's also the other game that looks near identical to Forspoken and is also the only other Square Enix title with the same floaty movement and extremely flashy magic.
    Which REALLY begs the question of why the game requires a NASA supercomputer to run at times when it's so identical to Final Fantasy XV.

    • @SomnusLucisCaelum
      @SomnusLucisCaelum Місяць тому +5

      I actually looked forward to Forspoken when it was still Project Athia *because* of the FFXV aesthetic and character movements.
      At some point a group of friends and I started speculating if the devs had salvaged the scrapped DLC and would release it as a separate, $40 expansion, simply because the world map had so much reused stuff you'd think it was the same game. God, they even reused those rock formations that look like horns! Which in hindsight is really cringe 😬
      Still looked interesting for a bit then revealed as Forspoken until Frey opened her mouth. The character is unlikeable from start to finish, now I'm mad this travesty of a game was developed from the scraps of XV 😂 that FF game just couldn't catch a break 💀

  • @JanitorsAssistant
    @JanitorsAssistant Місяць тому +92

    It's a shame we'll never see what happens in the sequel, Fivespoken.

    • @bleakcognitivefuture7913
      @bleakcognitivefuture7913 18 днів тому +5

      The OG Unspoken is a classic
      Twospoken improved on the gameplay
      Threespoken is where it all started to fall apart

    • @carlosfernando9095
      @carlosfernando9095 18 днів тому +1

      @@bleakcognitivefuture7913 I remember playing Unspoken, good times, good times.

    • @yosar6107
      @yosar6107 11 днів тому

      Not a shame. It's already cliche and boring enough. Orphant with secret heritage? Anyone? One game is enough.

  • @Left4Coragem
    @Left4Coragem Місяць тому +170

    The problem with forspoken is that you can't ask people to keep playing if the gameplay only kicks in 5 hours in, or if the character acts like garbage until 12 hours in the game. That's ludicrous.
    Could you imagine? "Oh, this series of movies gets good in the 4th entry", "this book gets going in the 300th page" or "This tv series gets good in the 8th episode". Ok, what it is doing then until it gets good besides wasting the time of the people engaging with it?
    Any media, be a book, movie, videogame, needs to put its best content first, because the creator of that media needs to prove to the audience that his work is worth their time. When a creator put the worst part first, it's his own fault that the audience walked away. The internet making fun of it is a minor point because most people don't watch internet critics, they just want a good game, and if they go to youtube to see gameplay, and the first 2 hours is a garbage character, throwing rocks at zombies, in a game that runs terribly, of course nobody is going to buy it.

    • @SageLorenz
      @SageLorenz Місяць тому +26

      If you are that far in before it becomes good, did it really become good or did you just finally develop Stockholm syndrome for it?

    • @HalfBrainGamers
      @HalfBrainGamers Місяць тому +14

      I will concede that there are a couple of moments where Frey isn't entirely unlikable (in Visoria, after Prav fight)
      But then she goes right back into being incredibly bitter and selfish, it's like the game forgot they were attempting to give her an arc.
      The more you think about her actions, the worse the narrative gets.

    • @luissan5764
      @luissan5764 Місяць тому +1

      Sounds like one piece.

    • @Vaguer_Weevil
      @Vaguer_Weevil 29 днів тому +2

      Bet it kicks in sooner if you purchase the XP boosts, battle passes and enough Shark Cards to buy the motorbike that's powered entirely on swear words. I don't even know if this game has an in-game store page but I wouldn't be surprised.

    • @kevinseraphin5456
      @kevinseraphin5456 28 днів тому +4

      I'd even argue that it's way easier to push through a boring tv show or movie compared to a game where both the gameplay AND the story suck for the first 10 hours.

  • @goodtaste2185
    @goodtaste2185 Місяць тому +288

    My favorite part is when John Forspoken shows up and says "I'm walkin here!"

    • @enigma7385
      @enigma7385 Місяць тому +21

      And after that theres the scene where she says "It's Forspokin' time" and then she Forspokened over all the bad guys.

    • @ThatBoyAqua
      @ThatBoyAqua  Місяць тому +65

      She for on my spoken till I say did I just do that?

    • @fusionwarrior52
      @fusionwarrior52 Місяць тому +18

      @@ThatBoyAqua [EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER]

    • @sebastiansochanski
      @sebastiansochanski Місяць тому +3

      👌

    • @mckinleyostvig7135
      @mckinleyostvig7135 Місяць тому +3

      Probably would have been a better character moment than anything actually in this game.

  • @kaidorade1317
    @kaidorade1317 Місяць тому +228

    I don’t even feel like the world itself is memorable. It just looks so bland and empty

    • @tyleroutland435
      @tyleroutland435 Місяць тому +9

      You are wrong

    • @roonkolos
      @roonkolos Місяць тому +70

      ​@@tyleroutland435people are allowed to disagree, you know

    • @stealthbrawler
      @stealthbrawler Місяць тому

      Nah you. I played it and dropped it after a day because while the gameplay can be cool, the world is so fucken bland​@@tyleroutland435

    • @AdminAbuse
      @AdminAbuse Місяць тому +26

      @@tyleroutland435 you're a consoomer

    • @tyleroutland435
      @tyleroutland435 Місяць тому

      @@AdminAbuse what do you mean

  • @Ruush_
    @Ruush_ Місяць тому +194

    Caught me off guard lol 22:27. Great video as always

    • @VongolaXZax
      @VongolaXZax Місяць тому +3

      Same lol😂

    • @XPSGames
      @XPSGames Місяць тому +11

      It's extra funny because That Boy Aqua is super wholesome

    • @matthewapril3119
      @matthewapril3119 Місяць тому +16

      The dude just threw out a sick mama joke without missing a beat

    • @IronKore
      @IronKore Місяць тому

      I came to comments specifically at this moment

    • @IcE-_-Kidd
      @IcE-_-Kidd Місяць тому

      😭

  • @lam9090
    @lam9090 Місяць тому +169

    what was that about my mom?!

    • @joshuahicks7798
      @joshuahicks7798 Місяць тому +14

      Ikr? 🤭

    • @ThatBoyAqua
      @ThatBoyAqua  Місяць тому +99

      I said she’s a very sweet lady 🫣

    • @NeonSuperNovas
      @NeonSuperNovas Місяць тому +5

      Right! I was like "Mm yes, the castle. Wait what 😯??" Lmao

  • @1Katakana
    @1Katakana Місяць тому +53

    It's a bit funny listening to the characters talk about all these "Tanta" characters, when "Tanta" is how you say "Aunty" in Norwegian 😆

    • @user-ku8yi5to4f
      @user-ku8yi5to4f Місяць тому +2

      They re literally wacko aunts

    • @frostreaper1607
      @frostreaper1607 Місяць тому +6

      Lol, in dutch the word 'tante' means aunt, and I was thinking the same.

    • @riuuit8437
      @riuuit8437 Місяць тому

      tanta also sounds like a work in Romanian: toanto meaning you dumb ass woman (or tontule if you want: you dumb ass man)

  • @amharbinger
    @amharbinger Місяць тому +93

    Forspoken has some incredible presentation but the story was just all over the place. You had brief moments where the narrative was good like the illusion world where Frey has to deal with those "ending" thoughts. Or when she opens up to Cuff about how she was adopted by a loving person. That person ended up marrying someone and having a kid but Frey says she abandoned her and never touched on it again. Did that woman abandon her or did Frey run away? They could've run with things like that to highlight why she doesn't trust people, how she's lost the will to live, or simply doesn't want to kill.
    To me what's worse was the narrative was predictable. Like how Frey is immune to the break or how Cuff was actually using her. In fact, that was another point that could've been used. Frey doesn't want to kill Cuff and you can hear it from her dialogue, have the same with Cuff. Give him the upper hand in the finale and have it that he can't do it. Have him question his purpose that he was told to hate the Tantas but after being with her he doesn't know what to believe. And yeah, the father part was just laughable.
    It's a lot of what could've been but at the end this is what it is.

    • @8thgaterocklee
      @8thgaterocklee Місяць тому +2

      I think a lot of that would've been explored more in a sequel. Even in the post game where you have some different dialogue in the dungeons and such, Cuff already seems more unsure about his job.
      I think the final boss fight was actually really well done in terms of ideal vs ideal. Susurrus was created for a specific purpose, and his whole life was spent believing his path was righteous and true. Frey lived most of her life without purpose, and originally spent a ton of time running away from any large responsibility.
      Through their journey together, Cuff helped Frey come to terms with her responsibilities (even if it was for selfish purposes), while Frey helped Cuff loosen up a bit in terms of sticking to a predestined fate.
      How this resolve would've shown itself, again, would've been shown more in the sequel we might never get :/

  • @kclink1579
    @kclink1579 Місяць тому +67

    1 year??? I thought it was at least 3

    • @daggern15
      @daggern15 Місяць тому +2

      It just feels that way sometimes.

  • @bryanortega7469
    @bryanortega7469 Місяць тому +81

    Damn, the "because I love games" is really how I approach every game. There's very few games that I had truly got to despise, but for most of them I really can get SOMETHING out of every one of them.

    • @jmoneyplayz8395
      @jmoneyplayz8395 Місяць тому +3

      Same. With kane and lynch 2 I can admit the games it not good but damn the story and characters is good

    • @latima123ify
      @latima123ify Місяць тому +5

      Lol im the same. There really hasnt been a game I have disliked , yeah there are aspects that I don't or think suck but I have never really thought a gamd was bad and I have played alot of games at this point.

    • @llmalex4176
      @llmalex4176 Місяць тому +2

      For me, there are games i dislike. But for forspoken i really had a good time. Is it peak? No. But it had some really good moments and made my dopamine skyrocket when moving about

  • @nyx8823
    @nyx8823 Місяць тому +346

    More like Forgotten: 1 year later

  • @adoggred
    @adoggred Місяць тому +133

    I'm going to be honest here man, the price point of games now and days are how I judge how much it's worth for me. If Forspoken charged $40 or something then I don't think it would have gotten nearly as much flak as it has. But being a $70 raises expectations to the roof. The flintlock game that's releasing soon I wrote off the second I saw it since I assumed it was another generic $70 overpriced game, but after learning they're charging $40 I'm actually going to roll the dice and give it a shot. Game publishers serious just needs to stop spending $100+ million dollars on games and start letting their big studios work on smaller more experimental projects. People want to pay games, people just don't want to break the bank and find the game they brought turns out to be mediocre at best.

    • @8thgaterocklee
      @8thgaterocklee Місяць тому +15

      The $70 price point definitely didn't help. Square Enix has jumped all in on increasing prices for games across the board.
      Luckily this game goes on sale a LOT, and people have said that getting it at $20-30 is a great deal.
      (I bought it at $70 and still got a ton of fun out of it but I'm definitely an outlier)

    • @lek1223
      @lek1223 Місяць тому +1

      70 dollars? you guys were lucky! it is 80 euro

    • @riuuit8437
      @riuuit8437 Місяць тому +1

      In my country the game is even more expensive than 70$; it's 100 euros, which is approx. 125$.
      I live in a country where we make some 1/5th to 1/10th the money the average american does.
      So for me the price is more like 125$*10=1250$ for ONE game.

    • @lek1223
      @lek1223 Місяць тому

      @@riuuit8437 absolutely ridiculous pricing indeed!

    • @_..--
      @_..-- Місяць тому

      First why are you dishonest most of the time that you have to quantify being honest this time? The assumption is that you are disingenuous. Though that game you rolled the dice on has less players than likes you got on your comment and that's entertaining to me.

  • @alsaiduq4363
    @alsaiduq4363 Місяць тому +116

    BROOKLYN BACKSHOTS BABY

    • @silenthilll_
      @silenthilll_ Місяць тому +9

      Please explain what the fuck this means 😊

    • @Therius
      @Therius Місяць тому +1

      @@silenthilll_ Simple.
      1. Go to Brooklyn
      2. Receive them backshots

    • @BDGon
      @BDGon Місяць тому +17

      @@silenthilll_ BROOKLYN BACKSHOTS BABY

    • @foxyelpirata6698
      @foxyelpirata6698 Місяць тому +6

      53:48 I was literally watching that part when I read the comment 😂

    • @pocketinfinity6733
      @pocketinfinity6733 Місяць тому

      @@silenthilll_ its a sex thing

  • @owamidlamini9681
    @owamidlamini9681 Місяць тому +16

    Another thing I wish they could have perhaps experimented with was the idea that Frey wanted to leave, not because she's a stubborn douche, but because it's all she knows and it terrifies her being in a new world, being overcome with such huge responsibility. Her overcoming that fear and ending with her embracing her role and her new home

    • @SundayMatinee
      @SundayMatinee 17 днів тому +1

      It says a lot when a random UA-cam comment can make a better theme for a game than "professional" game writers.

  • @JamieJGJ
    @JamieJGJ Місяць тому +42

    Square Enix even owns the Nier series and doesn't look towards Weiss and Nier for their interactions when this game could've been so much better for it

    • @usonohoshi6165
      @usonohoshi6165 Місяць тому +8

      Not them. NieR is a softy. The interaction they should have looked at was Weiss and Kaine. Especially when they want Frey to cuss like a sailor.
      Zero is also a good choice especially with her interactions with her sisters.

    • @user-ku8yi5to4f
      @user-ku8yi5to4f Місяць тому

      Interaction between shitty people is only good when they hate themselves for exist

  • @neroheart34
    @neroheart34 Місяць тому +113

    This video is why I enjoy Aqua's content, he doesn't exactly jump on the game, calling it bad or cringe, he gives the game a chance, something most people don't do, and is the type of criticism i enjoy, for a example in my case, I really don't like DMC2, but I enjoy my time, and the ideas are good, but everything else is bad
    Yes, the good is overshadowed by the bad, but the bad shouldn't make your decision, sometimes, even a bad game is good, and a good game is bad, the question is, how much can you handle it?
    Just because a line upsets you, doesn't exactly make the game bad objectively, a line is 1% of a game, not 100% of it, something Aqua remember and this video and game is the example, it is flawed, but even a flaw game has a silver lining

    • @roonkolos
      @roonkolos Місяць тому +20

      True
      But even so, the sad truth is "it's so bad it's good" doesn't cut it anymore. Games have gotten way too expensive unfortunately and every choosing has to matter. Yeah refunds can be done but sadly the limits on such are VERY strict so that reduces it as well
      That and 1 bad moment actually can ruin an entire experience just as one good moment can sometimes save it
      Forspoken isn't bad. It's just boring which if you ask me, is far worse

    • @neroheart34
      @neroheart34 Місяць тому +5

      @@roonkolos and that is something I agree, no matter how you slice it, that is bad, especially with games being expensive, I always say, especially in this generation, wait for a deal
      I feel bad for forspoken and how it was treated unfairly because of a single line, a line i see no problem, especially in terms of writing, but of course, people hate it
      A game should be fun, and I assume that's what you want, and probably many others, but I also think that even if a game doesn't drive you much, I say, give it a try if there is a demo

    • @Arirezz
      @Arirezz Місяць тому +1

      Dmc 2 as in the ps2 game or do you mean dmc 5?

    • @minecraftgravityguy
      @minecraftgravityguy Місяць тому

      Wtf are you on about? This game sucks ass and even games journos could see it from a mile away despite there usual cantrarian opinion towards anything that gamers enjoy. Nobody liked it. This is just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. Annoying.

    • @AD3SPG
      @AD3SPG Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Arirezz assuming yes DMC 2 I played through that game after 3 and damn it was a difference.

  • @Knight1029
    @Knight1029 Місяць тому +50

    I am glad people like you exist. Your channel is a constant reminder that you can be fair towards a game. You can be negative and positive when needed. When it is right to be either on. And not when its convenient or beneficial to be.

  • @Raycevick
    @Raycevick Місяць тому +10

    6:28 - Hey, that's me!

  • @Rollerrot
    @Rollerrot Місяць тому +11

    29:40 I have to refute this point about difficulty, my issue was there was too many options to see balance in difficulty for me. You could disable/enable aim assist, spell swap bullet time, auto evasion, auto heal, auto support spell switching. You could increase/decrease how long an enemy stayed knockdown or how much damage you receive. Also how quickly your stamina regens.
    So no, it isn't as simple "turning up the difficulty only raises their health amount." However you do a really good job explaining how varied combat can be, and the pitfalls you can trap yourself into early on.

  • @gamerboy6787
    @gamerboy6787 Місяць тому +9

    Like most people, I laughed at this game for all its failures and shortcomings. But you provided a very nuanced take, a deep dive. Thank you. Appreciate your insights.
    Is it just me, or does it seem like substantial chunks of the story were cut? Maybe that's why things feel so disjointed, and plot points seem to come out of nowhere, and characters pivot their stances so abruptly at certain points.
    I think I'll pick this game up when it's on a deep, deep sale, just out of my own morbid curiosity.

  • @kurosaki-kageyoshi3164
    @kurosaki-kageyoshi3164 17 днів тому +4

    The gravity rush scene😭 u made me sad bc I know there will never be a 3rd game😔also did u make a vid about gravity rush?

  • @Omega-EP
    @Omega-EP Місяць тому +67

    "Forspoken legit could be game of the year for me if IT IS ideas are executed well enough"
    Now I know why GeneralSam makes fun of you, Aqua.

    • @vvitch-mist20
      @vvitch-mist20 Місяць тому +8

      He's not wrong. The story, with all of it's holes, is pretty solid, and the idea incredibly unique, and if done well could be GOTY material. The problem is that they released the game too soon, and it changed numerous times during production.

    • @Omega-EP
      @Omega-EP Місяць тому +5

      @@vvitch-mist20 Are you illiterate?

    • @AzureRoxe
      @AzureRoxe Місяць тому

      @@vvitch-mist20 If you think the story is solid, you legit have a mental disability.

    • @fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011
      @fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011 Місяць тому

      @@Omega-EP You've got serious self-esteem issues.

    • @llmalex4176
      @llmalex4176 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@Omega-EPwhat part of that comment makes you think they're illiterate?

  • @mack4-_.
    @mack4-_. Місяць тому +45

    You know even if the protagonist wasn't awful, It wouldn't have mattered because the REST of the characters also weren't that great and the setting was boring, generic, and lifeless

  • @lucylu3342
    @lucylu3342 3 дні тому +1

    "When she finds a mysterious cuff"
    You left out the part where she got it from robbing a place.

  • @LizardKingRequiem
    @LizardKingRequiem Місяць тому +3

    Ill be honest… i firmly believe that a faulty start is better than a game falling off towards the end and disappointing me. But i guess i am one of the few who feels that way

    • @hazelcrisp
      @hazelcrisp 15 днів тому

      I kinda agree with this. If a game starts off rough or kinda ass but gets better it's kinda rewarding. Much better than a game starting strong or decent then going downhill at the midway point.

  • @cinamynj
    @cinamynj 18 днів тому +2

    I think you missed the mark on the character Frey.
    Your issues with Frey feel unusual with the MoneyBag and “I want to go home”.
    This is extremely real life behaviour.
    Especially emotionally unstable people.
    Frey would likely have mad depression in real life.
    Should that be announced or inferred through the game?

  • @shannonmiller1754
    @shannonmiller1754 Місяць тому +25

    so happy to see you finally posted this video, will be watching after work

  • @SimplyBoring
    @SimplyBoring Місяць тому +7

    Now that you mention Infamous, I can’t unsee the resemblances in terms of gameplay and movement. I think the philosophies for both are incredibly similar especially in presentation and visuals.
    The thing is, that’s not a compliment when that series is fairly old relatively speaking. Infamous holds up fairly..okay, don’t get me wrong. But the difference is, I can probably get every installment of Infamous for half the price. And at least for Second Son? The graphics are exceptional, run smoothly, and give an overall good experience. At the time of these games releasing? It was a niche that was incredibly intriguing and it genuinely inspired my own creative endeavors.
    If it were a much less ambitious project, smaller in scale, price tag, etc. People’s expectations wouldn’t have been nearly as high and the reviews wouldn’t be so intense. You have a background in Square Enix, those high expectations, all the marketing and push and everything that spells potential for something remarkable. But, when the result is an average game? It’s a letdown. Not everything is terrible, but it’s not remarkable. People will remember this game for not hitting that mark. They tried…and if that’s the takeaway then yikes.
    It’s bleak, but is that not unwarranted for a AAA game? Forspoken is a victim in some aspects, but at the end of the day? It’s also a product no matter how you look at it. And if the product doesn’t look appealing enough to buy, does that mean that I failed as a consumer to recognize the potential? I mean, maybe! But I don’t think that’s the takeaway we should have.
    I hope the developers will find other projects, better ones even where their talents are utilized to the fullest. I hope corporations get their act together and start focusing on our entertainment and pushing boundaries instead of prioritizing live service monetization. I hope audiences can form actual opinions for themselves instead of relying on others to make it for them. But, the reality is the product. And, in this case, the product genuinely speaks for itself.
    Optimistically, I think this game is just going to be another stepping stone for the actual game that can hit the mark. A 70$ investment, you could even say lololol. But, at face value, it’s a high priced average experience. There’s plenty of room for average experiences and I don’t mind an average experience every so often. FNAF Security Breach proved to me that even a poorly designed game can be SO entertaining and fun that it earns the price tag through its uniquely..interesting experience alone. But, this one doesn’t strike me as that.
    Subjectively, it’s null because we all have our tastes and preferences. It’s silly to argue that, so I won’t.
    To close, ahem. I can move shit with my freaking mind!

    • @Evanz111
      @Evanz111 Місяць тому +2

      Pog! I get that reference at the end 😮
      In all seriousness, yeah the infamous second son comparison is the most accurate, just more RPG-ified with damage numbers and equipment.

  • @AsaadDC
    @AsaadDC Місяць тому +17

    🗣️ VIEWFINDER AND GRAVITY RUSH REFERENCED IN THE SAME VIDEO
    also boy aqua is there ANY chance we are getting nier games videos :) i have a feeling you gonna love em and also interested in your thoughts.

    • @ThatBoyAqua
      @ThatBoyAqua  Місяць тому +9

      I loved the games but I don’t feel properly equipped to analyse it. I’m not sure why, but I just feel like I don’t fully understand the games

    • @mack4-_.
      @mack4-_. Місяць тому +1

      @@ThatBoyAqua Since you already talked about the second Gravity Rush maybe you should do a video on the first one as well. That and another video on the second one because you gained more of an audience since you posted it and it would be lovely if the series got more attention

  • @larrylightfoot22222
    @larrylightfoot22222 Місяць тому +2

    Im still of the opinion that the parent twist would have been more interesting if the sussur was frey's dad, and the trups to new york were a deliberate act that cinta took to break his confinement temporarily. And he kept his true motives hidden from her until she gave birth and he went with frey because he knew what she could do.

  • @steelblake
    @steelblake Місяць тому +3

    The problem with this game is that is not even fine to begin with.
    Like if someone wants to enjoy the game good for them, but don't act like a bad story, unlikeable main characters, inestable performance, cheeseable gameplay don't affect the opinion of most people. Hell, the writers of the game said that this was not how the game was supposed to be.
    Forspoken deserves to be an example of all of what not to do with a game.

  • @dylhas1
    @dylhas1 9 днів тому +1

    “The trailer didn’t bother me but…” it bothered 99% of people. Even in comments on positive videos of the game people were ridiculing it. It didn’t look good and that’s ignoring the dialogue, except for some of the visual effects.
    And it wasn’t that one line that made it a laughing stock but all of the dialogue in the trailer. It set such an awful tone that people didn’t like. That one line was representative of the tone set by the trailers that had other lines of dialogue like “freakin dragons!!!” That one line wasn’t the only thing and I never saw it out of context, but usually the entire sentence, but I wouldn’t doubt if it went viral on Twitter with that one line. But that one line did adequately represent the trailer and other lines were arguably worse.

  • @fyypa2k
    @fyypa2k Місяць тому +3

    I’m glad UA-cam content creators are now comfortable using sonic unleashed OST’s😀😀! One of the best OST’s for a Sonic game

  • @Toughbiscuit_
    @Toughbiscuit_ 10 днів тому

    Around the 1 hr mark you question why the dragon attacks frey. I dont think the tanta recognized who she was, only that someone arrived wearing the cuff and attacked for the cuffs presence

  • @villings
    @villings Місяць тому +6

    "tanta cinta"? so much tape (in spanish)
    that sounds funny too

    • @villings
      @villings Місяць тому

      great video, by the way _!!_

  • @LukasJampen
    @LukasJampen Місяць тому +2

    Another thing I belief holds back the game is that the second set of maguc comes way to late. People already used 1 magic for quite a bit and most likely got to used to using one at a time instead of getting another quickly and using them in tandem. Also I'm not sure if the game incentivices people enough to mix magic instead of just spamming what enemies are vulnerable to.

  • @yungrose6338
    @yungrose6338 Місяць тому +27

    We are so back

  • @marilynnbuss3730
    @marilynnbuss3730 Місяць тому +11

    I was so excited for this game… a game with just magic as the weapon? A new IP. The character traversal looked great; it flows, it’s quick, and it allows vertical movement. The visuals on the trailer with the magic being used was great. I don’t have twitter so I wasn’t watching negative hate hype. I will say that because I don’t have a lot of free income, I did watch gameplay. 1. My computer (we just bought) isn’t good enough to run this game… 2. The cuff didn’t stop talking, ever. While some of the dialogue was silly, that didn’t really bother me, the constant chatter did. The other thing that I saw as I watched gameplay was that it didn’t seem like exploration did anything for the player other than show off pretty environments. So, if I could play this game, I would have waited to pick it up on sale. I think this game was set up to fail.

    • @theblackoutexplorer2658
      @theblackoutexplorer2658 Місяць тому +2

      As someone who likes magic yea i immediately heard the words magic saw a fire ball and was like OOO. Then I saw the actual trailer with the character talking and I was already done from there. Then the gameplay came out the world did kinda just look empty I do have social media and saw all the hate but honestly eh it was more entertainment then i would of gotten out of the game

  • @Slyslug
    @Slyslug Місяць тому +2

    The particle effects in the game were extremley good. That's all the game gets lol

  • @dani3po
    @dani3po 22 години тому

    If Assassin's Creed had been released today, we would never have had ACII. The hatred that some games get is insane.

  • @hendrex8285
    @hendrex8285 26 днів тому +5

    49:27 to be fair, if YOU got teleported to some mysterious magical world you knew nothing about, wouldn't you just wanna go back home? Even if your home situation is bad, familiarity is better than mystery

    • @MageJiro
      @MageJiro 11 днів тому

      I do want to be in a magical world I know nothing about. That would be awesome. Even if it was difficult. Even I didn't automatically get magic. That doesn't feel like an abnormal opinion with how popular isekai is.

  • @cinamynj
    @cinamynj 18 днів тому +2

    I loved Forspoken so much, binged the whole game and got every trophy for it. DLC as well.
    I liked how the character started out bratty and matured over time. It is similar to Final Fantasy 15 in that way.
    The game deserved success.

  • @stinklinethegoblin5952
    @stinklinethegoblin5952 Місяць тому +5

    The only exposure I have to this game is the Oneyplays play though a while ago

    • @trika91
      @trika91 28 днів тому

      Loved how Oneyplays went fully Rifftrax/Mystery Science Theater 3000 with them predicting the cliche dialogue and writing and being disappointingly dumbfounded at how accurate they were.
      It started as a joke, but as it kept happening they were growing concerned and wanted to predict wrong for once.

  • @8thgaterocklee
    @8thgaterocklee Місяць тому +2

    There's a lot of us that actually really enjoyed the story and characterization. Frey has a very abrasive personality, but the fun was seeing how she grew as a person throughout the game, learning to accept responsibility instead of running from it, while not completely abandoning her hard ass attitude that in the end helped her be able to deal with and contain Susurrus and his "insidious bothering" tactic that worked on the previous Tantas.
    The DLC story did a great job clearing up some mystery of the origins of the Break, but also set up a really intriguing hook for a sequel that we most likely will never see due to the negative reception.

  • @DoumanAsh
    @DoumanAsh Місяць тому +4

    You can berate people for being too hasty with judging game by trailer, yet it turned out to be correct judgment

    • @foxfire1112
      @foxfire1112 25 днів тому

      This entire review is a strange gamer moral highground, as if the game itself isn't full of reasons for it to flop

  • @Dzzy123
    @Dzzy123 Місяць тому +1

    I know the developers denied it, but the Agni's Philosophy tech demo for the Luminous engine looked like such a cool concept and I think Forspoken was once that.

  • @mensatico
    @mensatico Місяць тому +4

    The ending sums up perfectly why not only this channel is one of my favorites on UA-cam, you're also one of my favorite creators to follow.
    While recognizing your biases and what will make you look positively or negatively at things, you also try hard to give games a fair chance, and to be fair and complete in your reviews. I just find it lovely.
    That's something I find awesome with your content, and it gives me a more human and personal look at a game than someone like Whitelight might usually give (I fucking love Whitelight as well y'all are the goats).

  • @HeartPotionJohnny
    @HeartPotionJohnny Місяць тому +1

    This was my first video I watched on your channel and I've been convinced to try the game out eventually (and subscribe).

  • @alsaiduq4363
    @alsaiduq4363 Місяць тому +9

    This is some good shit.

  • @marielcarey4288
    @marielcarey4288 Місяць тому +1

    Forsaken intrigues me in a way no game I actually like does

  • @redfin382
    @redfin382 Місяць тому +15

    I don't think the dialogue in the demo were bad. If a 16 yr old got a magic cuff would they be like " this power that's bestowed upon me is near limitlessness and blah blah"
    No, they would be like " holy shit did I just fly?" Fuck I would react like that.

    • @hazelcrisp
      @hazelcrisp Місяць тому +5

      Yeah there are literally other superhero media which have their characters do the same thing.

    • @Sondi
      @Sondi Місяць тому +9

      The very first scene she's making joke while getting beat up. It's shown quickly it's a coping mechanism for stressful situations. Especially when she's alone and Introspective.

    • @owenlindkvist5355
      @owenlindkvist5355 Місяць тому +5

      @@Sondi Stop writing for the writers, mate. It's shit, and you know it.

  • @chaosmlg
    @chaosmlg 27 днів тому +1

    I got this game due to a buy 1 get one sale at game stop, so I bought like a dragon ishin and forspoken because it was the only thing that I was curious about from that sale. Forspoken went from "welp got it for free I'll play it after ishin" to me beating forspoken before finishing ishin. I enjoyed the gameplay, lot of neat stuff with the whole magic system and I enjoyed leveling up the abilities via challenges. Story is for sure meh at a lot of points, but i turned my brain off and did a lot of battles that kept me enjoying the game since the gameplay was all I cared about and was fun for me. I will say the tanta cats are cute as heck, best part of the game.

  • @jayman071410
    @jayman071410 Місяць тому +7

    That "but much like your mother, it's beauty lies in its backside" line caught me so off guard, my drink came out my nose. Subscribed

  • @t3tsuyaguy1
    @t3tsuyaguy1 10 днів тому +1

    You know, that line never bothered me. I actually (gasp) liked it. I didn't play the game, because all the gameplay reviews I saw were negative.

    • @dudedadric6514
      @dudedadric6514 10 днів тому

      I got the game on sale, and I'm so glad I didn't listen to the reviews, because U genuinely enjoyed myself, the powers and parkour was SO fun. The dlc story was also pretty good too

  • @mangomation3945
    @mangomation3945 Місяць тому +8

    I feel like this game DEFINITELY was in large part a victim of general backlash to 'marvel humour' or 'whedon humour' or whatever else you wanna call it, the game just happened to run afoul of that wider distaste imo. A general perception that movies and some games too had become irony-poisoned and filled with jokes that sort of insecurely tried to position themselves as above the goofiness of their premise by going 'lol look how stupid and dumb and unrealistic this is, we're self-aware and ironic about it!!'. So that trailer, filled with that dialogue, especially the one segment that was seen as similar to the infamous 'They fly now!' bit from Star Wars everyone hated and so on and so forth, I think you're right it killed the game's hype. Especially as the trend had begun of chatty hold-the-player's-hand dialogue in games, I think a lot of people assumed it was going to be nonstop ironic quips and were instantly soured on the game from there on out.

    • @mjay6245
      @mjay6245 Місяць тому

      This isn't any one thing.
      It's everything.

    • @mangomation3945
      @mangomation3945 Місяць тому

      @@mjay6245 Sorry, can you clarify what you're saying? I don't follow. I know it's got more problems than that if that's what you're saying, obviously of course, was more talking about how that's what caused people to mostly give up on it even before the release or reviews hit.

    • @wgnd1614
      @wgnd1614 Місяць тому

      you didn't watch a single marvel movie then because the humour there is not shitty like this at all even in the abomination named love and thunder

    • @mangomation3945
      @mangomation3945 Місяць тому +3

      @@wgnd1614 There's a reason it was in quotes - I was referring to how many people perceive it and call it, rightly or wrongly. I personally don't have a strong opinion one way or the other on marvel movies.

    • @CompSomAnichi
      @CompSomAnichi Місяць тому

      Well said

  • @Kate_Hanami
    @Kate_Hanami 7 днів тому

    the term is "seamless transition" when a cutscene transition into gameplay in a seamless way

  • @kurisuastralum4244
    @kurisuastralum4244 Місяць тому +5

    Pausing at 11 minutes in just to say that you in fact do not need to finish a game to figure out that it's simply not good. If you aren't enjoying the game and it's been bad for the first half of it then it's pretty safe to say the second half isn't going to be much better. Could it be an absolute homerun of a second half? Sure it COULD be, but normal people aren't going to stick with it and waste the small amount of free time that they have, they'll simply drop it and play something more enjoyable.

    • @majorgear1021
      @majorgear1021 19 днів тому +1

      I agree 100% . I work hard to have time to play games, so I’m not going to play one that is a waste of my time.

  • @mnqwenononqane1604
    @mnqwenononqane1604 Місяць тому +1

    NAH, "Brooklyn Backshots" is WILD 💀53:46

  • @Wesmin2
    @Wesmin2 Місяць тому +28

    No! Your supposed to say the game sucks, and is the worst thing ever made. 0/10 doesn't conform with my views

    • @squallthegriever
      @squallthegriever Місяць тому +4

      Nah the game is solid. Sure has flaws but, it's still a good game.

    • @AdminAbuse
      @AdminAbuse Місяць тому +2

      You're

    • @parisolivarious
      @parisolivarious Місяць тому +2

      I mean he’s still saying that the game sucks. He’s objectively saying it lmao

    • @seniorsterling1064
      @seniorsterling1064 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@squallthegriever really? Why did it flop then

    • @feathercat9118
      @feathercat9118 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@squallthegriever it was so good, that it killed a studio that made it. Truly one of a kind type of game.

  • @markpula91
    @markpula91 Місяць тому +2

    Love to see your work.

  • @rockotrex
    @rockotrex Місяць тому +10

    I really enjoyed Forspoken, played it almost day 1 and had a really good time with the movement, powers and even the story and characters, I don't know, it was a game that just "clicked" with me, even with the parts that, I agree, weren't that well executed. But, it was really sad seeing sooo many content creators putting the game on their list of worst of the year like ???, even the people that ACTUALLY finished it said it was mid, but still put it in the worst of the worst. I think that said more about themselves than it did about Forspoken imo.
    Great video!!

  • @inuboy2005
    @inuboy2005 Місяць тому +1

    I enjoyed the game for what it is. It's not perfect, but it's also not terrible.

  • @sasuto27
    @sasuto27 Місяць тому +7

    Dude, I just found your channel and feel so represented. I haven't played this game yet, but I feel exactly the same as you about that whole "love or hate" thing. And I feel really represented when you said you like this game just because you just....like videogames. Nice video, nice line of thought, can't wait to see your next videos. Good job!

  • @_MD_.
    @_MD_. 16 днів тому +1

    Well yes, not only the game developers are to blame, but also the players.
    It's a nightmare to release a game to gamers these days. Several hours of long videos could be made of how and how badly the players behave with the game developers.

    • @AnDr3w066
      @AnDr3w066 13 днів тому

      Here comes the white knights trying to defend trash 😂

  • @NeonSuperNovas
    @NeonSuperNovas Місяць тому +21

    I personally and honestly don't have a problem with or see what's wrong with the "Did I just do that?" dialogue. I actually liked that scene. I feel like it was one of those things where someone popular says they don't like something and everyone else just follow suit.

    • @nogoodhandlesavailable
      @nogoodhandlesavailable Місяць тому +5

      The idea wasn't bad. The execution was bad. Unskilled acting is all.

    • @MorbidEel
      @MorbidEel Місяць тому +6

      @@nogoodhandlesavailable Also feels like it over stayed its welcome. Where you expect her to be done with it instead the scene continues. Same thing could happen in a boss fight. In fact that was the same criticism the video had about setting the game to a higher difficulty.

    • @Vaguer_Weevil
      @Vaguer_Weevil 29 днів тому

      I think everyone is just tired of the unfunny Marvel quips now, I personally never cared for it but you know it's over when even the normies get bored of it.
      For me this scene just makes me imagine the writers giggling to themselves as they wrote the script thinking it was the funniest thing amongst the group.
      It's like when you have an inside joke with some friends so of course anyone else outside that group doesn't get why it's funny when they're not in on it. We're not in on the joke, only the writers were.

  • @SequentialSnep
    @SequentialSnep 12 днів тому

    19:23 - why does this character look so much better than the player's character?

  • @niles8576
    @niles8576 Місяць тому +6

    played jedi survivor just a few weeks back and it would have been the best game i played this year but then trails through daybreak came out just few days ago and well its one of the best games in the best series of all time. also completely forgot about forspoken

  • @civilwarfare101
    @civilwarfare101 Місяць тому +2

    It seems all the depth of the game's combat comes from the endgame, I found the game to kind of hard due to the fact that the parkour and roll button are mapped to the same button meaning no dedicated dodge button which is what I strongly dislike in games. Infamous Second Son at least gave you a dedicated dash button. The enemies were also damage sponges too but this could've been because I didn't switch my powers enough. I also found the terrain flat and boring since there were no building to climb up. I don't really dislike this game but everything about it just seems like the devs thought, a "medieval superhero game sounds cool" but kind of just run around in circles when making it. I also feel like if there were more Infamous games, I would be harsher on Forspoken.
    I also played the game on PS5 which probably helped my experience, honestly, can't picture myself playing on PC outside of emulators and sometimes playing an indie game.

  • @aersla1731
    @aersla1731 Місяць тому +6

    This review brings to light some of the issues gamers have as a whole, very well put together. Something you didn't mention is that it's not just money investment but also time investment. Games have just gotten too big.

  • @BrickfilmPictures
    @BrickfilmPictures 24 дні тому +1

    i feel so bad for ella balinska, she is a good actress that is just getting trash role after trash role, first that terrible charlies angles film, then that awful resident evil show, and now forspoken. she deserves alot better

  • @BattleManiac7
    @BattleManiac7 Місяць тому +12

    The Forsaken Review I've always wanted. I always got the vibe that a lot of the videos on UA-cam were too band wagony, or came from voices I respected very little (or none at all). I wanted a voice I can use when I'll eventually see this thing in the bargain bin and think, is it worth a lunch in cost? God knows I can tolerate shit in media if the good, how little there may be, can vibe with me. I think I finally got it. I'm not surprised the bad out weighed the good, I feel that if this game was actually an underated gem I would've heard someone say by now, but it's nice to see a review that doesn't feel like the game personally offended the content creator.
    Will I buy it? Depends on how cheap I'll eventually see it and how starved I am of games at the time I guess. We'll see how the coin flips if that ever happens.

  • @rorylol
    @rorylol 27 днів тому

    I have lost count at how many times I've seen someone on youtube play a game and it made me want to play it too.
    I watched someone else play Foreskin too and I didin't even finish the let's play.

  • @richstoehr3247
    @richstoehr3247 Місяць тому +3

    I got Forspoken as a Christmas gift and didn't play it for months, mostly due to the poor reviews it had gotten. Once I finally did sit down and devote some time to it, I found a game that felt rough in places but was also surprisingly fun in others, especially as you progressed through it. I didn't like the overly-chatty dialogue or some of the more obvious story beats, but I loved that you could just go around and take pictures if you wanted, or go find a bunch of weird cats - and finding ALL the weird cats resulted in a moment of genuine surprise. And surfing over water through a magical surfboard (once you learned that ability) felt amazing - almost as good as Spider-Man swinging through NYC. Forspoken is definitely not a masterpiece, and that's a bummer considering all the work and talent that went into it. But it can be fun if you let it be.

  • @nicodinisi
    @nicodinisi Місяць тому +2

    “sus”-erus is a bit on the nose for a villain name 😂

  • @RavenCrank
    @RavenCrank Місяць тому +19

    I honestly really fucking enjoyed forspoken tbh

    • @fuckoffyou
      @fuckoffyou Місяць тому +1

      Well well.. look that flag..

    • @cartoonvideos5
      @cartoonvideos5 Місяць тому +3

      Yea I wonder why LOL

    • @ZephyrFate
      @ZephyrFate Місяць тому

      @@cartoonvideos5 Feel free and elaborate, bigot.

  • @bombyo3634
    @bombyo3634 Місяць тому +1

    If this game had a new game plus I'd play it from beginning to end because i enjoyed it. The exploration and getting manna to level up made get stronger so much easier. The running and jumping and feeling like a super sayin was dope

  • @everest_129
    @everest_129 Місяць тому +11

    I never understood why people hated this game so much, I love this game and it sucks cause I can barely find any content around it, also I have no idea why the "I just move shit with my freaking mind" is hated so much, I enjoy it, looking at her in that moment makes me excited cause shes excited by it

    • @parisolivarious
      @parisolivarious Місяць тому +12

      “I never understood why people hated this game so much.” … did you watch this video?

    • @seniorsterling1064
      @seniorsterling1064 Місяць тому +1

      One reason Frey is unlikable thts it

    • @everest_129
      @everest_129 Місяць тому

      @@seniorsterling1064 But thats the thing, I like Frey

    • @user-mr3tg8jf3t
      @user-mr3tg8jf3t Місяць тому

      ​@@seniorsterling1064cause you hate woman talking

    • @nyanchat2657
      @nyanchat2657 Місяць тому

      @@user-mr3tg8jf3t bait used to be good

  • @CollinGerberding
    @CollinGerberding Місяць тому

    1:23
    for what it's worth, I was lucky I only saw one random thing about Forspoken and forgot about it. The brief glimpse felt very much like something I'd love.
    Months later, I find out that it was worth missing. But don't feel bad. We all get pulled in sometime.

  • @petrock4041
    @petrock4041 Місяць тому +6

    Great video! The way you communicated your points was very well executed.

  • @KiomonDuck
    @KiomonDuck Місяць тому +2

    The lines on 5:37 didnt kill the game the bad story and bad main character did. If the game was truely good the lines in the clip would have only been remembered as something funny about the game.
    Sometimes a game is just bad and this is one of those games.

  • @martinrakovicky1189
    @martinrakovicky1189 Місяць тому +3

    DEI (sweet baby inc) vomit

  • @AnonymousCapybara2050
    @AnonymousCapybara2050 Місяць тому +1

    Wow. You're such a breath of fresh air in a landscape of overly negative gaming discourse. Keep being awesome.

  • @cesarromeroalbertos3839
    @cesarromeroalbertos3839 Місяць тому +10

    UA-camrs overreacting to stuff just because that's the way they're expected to react is so tiring and annoying... (I'm talking about the clips of people reacting to the game itself and just putting faces during the dialogue)

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC Місяць тому +1

      I find it varies by the creator, for example Angry Joe strikes a good balance as his angry overreacting are unambiguously overreactions and more importantly are exaggerations to highlight legitimate criticisms as part of his review where he's more level headed. He also does such for good aspects too so he's gives credit where it's due.
      But yeah overall it feels like reactors are either super negative or super positive because that's what gets clicks and shares among children compared to balanced and measured critique.

  • @onomee130
    @onomee130 Місяць тому +2

    forspoken is a MASTERPIECE
    and anyone who disagree is right

  • @travisspazz1624
    @travisspazz1624 Місяць тому +9

    Just bought a used copy for 12 bucks because I'm morbidly curious!

    • @Zen13th
      @Zen13th Місяць тому

      I just bought a new copy of this for 10 bucks. It can't be that bad, right?

    • @MrProdigy810
      @MrProdigy810 Місяць тому +5

      It's honestly not. The game is meh, which I see as distinctly different from bad. And the gameplay if really fun if you use everything they give you. I'dsay it's worth it at such a deep sale

    • @MrGMoney1944
      @MrGMoney1944 Місяць тому +2

      Eh my suggestion is wait to upgrade your stuff till you beat the third boss so you can pick a cloak and necklace you want to invest in visual wise since you can add whatever effects you want to them.

  • @blanc5481
    @blanc5481 Місяць тому +2

    nah fuck this game $70 hell nah just paly a better game that's worth your money and time

  • @Morfe02
    @Morfe02 Місяць тому +11

    you can say this exact video on "Flintlock: The Siege of Dawn " and just change the images and words of "Forspoken" LMAOO like THE SAME STORY WITH THE SAME VIDEO, this video

    • @apotsmokinjedi
      @apotsmokinjedi Місяць тому +10

      what are you talking about they are completely different?

    • @Morfe02
      @Morfe02 Місяць тому +1

      @@apotsmokinjedi the game looks fine in gameplay but "looks" like trash, the flop is inminent

    • @matthewapril3119
      @matthewapril3119 Місяць тому +1

      ​@Morfe02, you have a fair point, I haven't given the game a second thought, and I have zero plans to engage with it, and the game releases this month

    • @Morfe02
      @Morfe02 Місяць тому +1

      @@matthewapril3119 yeah and all the trailers are gameplay
      and the little of story . . . SOUNDS LIKE THIS GAME you have a "friend" that is a spirit or something and you are a fish out of water i guess
      but only with guns and i think there is a political-religion problem villain like . . . Forspoken ?

    • @BumbleCrumble1072
      @BumbleCrumble1072 Місяць тому +2

      ⁠I played the demo and the plot seems to be about killing god(s) to stop an undead apocalypse.

  • @oreotaku4017
    @oreotaku4017 Місяць тому +1

    We making it out of Athia with this one!
    Thank god for that 😅

  • @jtlego1
    @jtlego1 Місяць тому +16

    The way the internet treated Forespoken made me put it in the same mental category as the Saints Row Reboot: a game that just doesn't feel good to talk about on the internet because everyone collectively screeched about one bad aspect/part so hard that its almost impossible to talk about the rest of it.
    And that sucks because I like hearing talk/criticism about all qualities of media, but those two games in particular just feels like everyone refused to engage in legitimate critique and used the "bad writing" as justification to treat what is ultimately a mid game like it was the spawn of satan.

    • @Evanz111
      @Evanz111 Місяць тому +11

      You hit the nail on the head. It was almost interesting because when I tried to engage in actual discussions with people on the game, well over half of them ended up repeating the same points worded in the same way, with the root often being a viral tweet or from a video a streamer made on the game. Most hadn’t even tried it themselves, they were just parroting points.

    • @jtlego1
      @jtlego1 Місяць тому +9

      @@Evanz111 To truncate a phrase from Tehsnakerer (a channel I'd *heartily* recommend, especially for his video on the Saints Row Reboot): "Why fact check when you want a fat check? Nobody is gonna come to this game's defense, but how do you bowl with the rails up and still get a gutter ball?"
      Theres so many people nowadays who just shut down their brains once a game reaches a certain "infamy" status (especially ones that get that in pre-release like Saints Row Reboot and Forespoken) and refuse to engage with the media on its own merits/flaws. Its aggravating.

    • @seniorsterling1064
      @seniorsterling1064 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@jtlego1 well I mean when those games in question get their respective studios cancelled and In saints rows case antagonize their potential customers, Can you blame them.

  • @MedalWelder
    @MedalWelder Місяць тому +1

    For me, Square Enix is just another once legendary studio that has fallen pretty hard over the years. They took years to make this game, that in the end, would only impress the CEO of Ubisoft. I can’t believe they made this instead of another Deus Ex. Oh never mind, they sold that off smh.

  • @IFinishedAVideoGame
    @IFinishedAVideoGame Місяць тому +3

    This was absolutely great - personally I found this game fascinating because there just aren't that many games that sit in this same "it's terrible but actually it's quite good" zone. The combat and navigation look great, the world building super interesting - but yikes some of those other design decisions.
    Beyond that - super interesting thoughts about people needing everything to either be amazing or terrible and then having no desire to go away and find out for themselves. I genuinely believe there is a whole host of people out in the world who primarily view games as content to be viewed through the lens of streamers or UA-cam channels. It's a strange thought because it literally pays my bills but does so much damage to the way "we" engage with art. How have we arrived at a situation where people write off a very large and complex game based on just a few seconds of dialogue?
    Also I couldn't shake the feeling that Square Enix would have made so much more money if they just released Forspoken as a YA novel. It seems like it would perfectly hit that Hunger Games / Lightlark audience and likely would have cost a hell of a lot less to make!

  • @lentzz_2x
    @lentzz_2x 29 днів тому +1

    I played this game bro I'm not gonna go out of my way to say it's perfect but going in I saw magic I saw running around parcouring and I told myself ya I'm gonna enjoy this this game was fun the story wasn't really interesting the world empty but the was actually the point of the game we were the only person that could go out so it was fine the game was really fun to play if you just care about actually playing a game and not listening to what people say I platinumed it it was worth it.

  • @zuulmeister8409
    @zuulmeister8409 Місяць тому +7

    I didn't mind the dialogue. I played with the Japanese dub. What I couldn't deal with was the unbearably empty world. Who thought it would be a good idea to make a world where you turn into a zombie if you step outside the wall?

    • @ThatBoyAqua
      @ThatBoyAqua  Місяць тому +2

      I don’t speak Japanese but I’m curious, is the dialogue more tolerable in terms of delivery in the Japanese dub?

    • @zuulmeister8409
      @zuulmeister8409 Місяць тому +5

      @@ThatBoyAqua Well, Japanese dub with English subtitles. To me, the dialogue was more tolerable. Worst case, I could skim over the subtitles while hearing a Japanese sentence I didn't understand.

    • @SomeGuy-mt4hq
      @SomeGuy-mt4hq Місяць тому +3

      It feels perhaps inaccurate to say you didn't mind the dialogue when you experienced it in such a deliberately skewed way