@Sideways G looks are subjective. I, for example, really like how the new Type-R looks. Except for the rear bumper fake vents, they kinda suck. But overall it's a great looking car, probably the best looking from factory Type-R for me, and it's far from being hideous. Yeah, it looks kinda bold and flashy for a stock hot-hatch, but it's not a bad thing for many people.
@@rlockwood88 Not entirely true - traction control can be disabled in stock for, and you can unlock the ability to toggle ESC on/off via VAG-com in the mk6 platform. Not sure about mk7.
@@rlockwood88 www.goapr.com/support/esp-defeat.html This is what I used to successfully enable toggling of ESC in my '12 GTI. I track my car and almost never turn it off. It rarely intrudes - only if the back end is really trying come around.
As an FK8 owner, this was enjoyable to watch. I'll be at NCM in September for SCCA time trials, if it's the Grand Course, I'll aim to beat that 2:20 time
I own a Type R and you do get torque steer and becomes very noticeable over slight bumps or uneven pavement. It is still hands down an amazing driving experience.
Yann Dupuis nope... torque steer over slight bumps and noticed it pulling hard on a straight line over uneven pavement on my way to work this morning. Honda did an excellent job with this car no doubt especially with dialing out torque steer but it’s not completely eliminated.
Searched Type R videos a lot and only seeing this one now for some reason but great review -from someone who clearly know what he's talking about! Had my FK8 type R, from new, for over a year now and still look forward to - and love - driving it! I've been surprised how many people comment on how great my car looks, considering the only negativity you see online from the car journos is the looks.
Finally a good video with the polished metallic color. Dealership here is trying to get me one 😬 this seems to be the least popular color but it’s the one I fell in love with.
This is very likely the next FWD somewhat practical track car for when my '08 Mini Cooper S becomes too troublesome/expensive to keep. Great review of a really well designed, solid car!
drove one recently, the stability at high speeds (talkin 250 km/h on the autobahn) just blew me away. styling is not a problem for me, i am an nfs underground kiddo, i really dig that (rear fake vents are a bit much tho....).
This is what all of the dipshits ragging on the looks don’t get- all that aero stuff is functional. It’s a commuter that generates several hundred lbs of downforce. I don’t give a damn what it looks like, I feel like I’m driving a race car to work every day. Also, it looks a lot less outlandish now in 2019 than it did when it released. That’s just the direction design is going. Resale value on them is basically MSRP... I have a feeling the cars are going to age very well.
Shane Carr Bravo. Finally someone who talks sense! I own a black FK8 and I also drive it mostly to and from work and I love the styling. F*ck the haters.
In the end, I purchased a Focus RS. However, much respect to this car. More compliant than the RS and past 60MPH, I can't even come close to the Type R. Either way, if you're lucky enough to spend money on these crazy cars, consider yourself lucky to have had this experience.
He only covered half of its coolness. It's actually detachable and flippable- you can pull the whole thing out and move it to the other side so it pulls left to right if you want... it's a module. I moved a 9 foot long sectional couch in my Type R. It's the best daily driver ever made bar none.
@@dyingangelo Well, you see, here in the Philippines (I don't know how it is elsewhere) most car dealers only have stick-shift models at the lower to middle end of the spectrum; most of top-of-the-line models are automatic. So to learn that the Type R is stick-shift kind of got me excited about it.
Great review, though didn’t hear much in the way of criticisms. Nothing is perfect so I’d like to hear some aspects that could be improved or that might be lacking against the competitor, even if just slight.
The entertainment system is sluggish. That needs pepping up. Some people want more exhaust noise, but mine is a daily drive, so I don't want to be cracking and popping up and down the high street, it's just irritating. It's bigger than you expect and longer, so I managed to scrape a wheel on day 2. That's my bad rather than the fault of the car, it's length and width give it stability. As mentioned in the video, people are hot or cold about the looks. I'm a fan. If I wanted to drive a cookie cutter jelly bean car I'd have bought something that looks like a golf (i.e. everything else). There's no configurable driving mode. You have three and it would be nice to pick +R thottle with R suspension and R steering perhaps? It's never really bothered me. It starts in R where everything is taut and responsive. I only slip it into comfort if I'm hitting a road with speed bumps. +R I like for specific roads. It's front wheel drive, so if it's wet it's quite easy to spin the wheels pulling out of junctions. But again, it's FWD because that's what a Civic Type R is and I'd take the weight saving over a Focus RS any day. That's pretty much it. Anything else comes down to "Is this better than a car twice its price?" style criticisms. Half the things I listed are design choice compromises where you get the bad is compensated for by good. The list of good things though far outweighs any negative. The seating position means you get IN the car as opposed to ON the car. The turn in is amazing, the stability is amazing. The brakes are amazing. The mid range power is amazing. The sound system is pretty damn good (In the UK we have two spec's, the GT version has better sound). It has safety features like auto brake if it thinks you're about to run over a child or rear end someone. Reverse parking camera with indication of cars or people crossing your path. Lane departure warning. Radar cruise control. it will even steer you along a motorway, which I find freaky. I've picked up 2.5m lengths of timber to bring home, so it's practical. The ride is supple, comfort mode is genuinely comfortable. I could go on. It's much easier to write about the good bits :)
Thats just how good the car is so good that the competition has to actually have AWD/4wd Even if you watch and listen to other people that reviewed it they all say the same styling blablabla could be a louder exhaust all the same if you haven't watched chris harris video you should you might actually find the minute critisms that you're looking for there
@@ianbradley7215 I appreciate your response and insight into being an owner. While I know the car is an outstanding machine I was hoping for a racer's take on it instead of telling us what most already have heard through press material and such. But again, you provided more in your comment than Andy did in the video, and to that I think you.
@Ian Bradley’s reply was great, but this video also delivers what it promises: A racer’s take on the car. Everything he wanted and looked for he got. If you a detailed look at what doesn’t matter to most people then there’s always Doug De Muro’s videos for you :)
I own one and was *not* a fan before buying, the lot just had one and my ST got wrecked so I said fuck it. My impressions- it's legitimately, and I mean this, the best daily driver ever built. It's a 9 or 10 at everything for the price. It's comfortable as hell, fast as hell, handles like crazy, has a gargantuan hatch, seats 4 grown men easily, has the best manual transmission possibly ever, has a super predictable, linear engine and powerband that just keeps going to redline... no baby turbo falling off after 5k... I drive like a dick and still get 20mpg... It's just the best all around street car ever made. I moved a 9 ft sectional couch in mine. I bought it in Chicago and road tripped it to LA a week later with 3 dudes- 6'3 6'3 and 6'0 and it was a couch. It has no downsides beyond the subjective, and the looks have grown on me to be honest. It looks far less outlandish than it did when it was new, I suspect it will stay modern looking when other cars from the era start looking dated... it was just a bit ahead of its time. That said, I do wish it was a bit less flashy since I'm 37... but I also live in LA where you see all kinds of crazy cars all the time so it's really not that bad. If I had to force a complaint it would be the infotainment system. Mine is a 19 and I guess it has been upgraded vs the older ones, but it's still a bit slow. The infotainment in my '17 ST3 was much better. Better satnav, more cohesive... but that's the last thing I care about in a car and the Civic isn't bad, it's just not the best. And really, that's trying hard to nitpick. If you are looking at dd type cars under 70k and can handle the looks, it has no competition.
Nothing To See Here I know! Great video but the damn accent was distracting and confusing me the entire time. It’s like he became a Brit, Aussie and American all in different sections of the track!
Awesome vid Andy... thank you for sharing your input. I have less than a handful of track days on this course. I've ran the Grand Course and West Course configurations but Grand layout is where it is at IMO. I'm not to far off the 2:20 but I REALLY need to work on my breaking because some I am having issues with the pushing coming into turns from exiting the previous turn. Turn one is my main issue I believe... I am breaking just after 4 but I am carrying more speed ( my car is currently stock except the HKS exhaust ) perhaps I should let off the throttle sooner before i get to 4? Is there any input that you could share or tips that might help me? Thank you Andy YOU ROCK 👍
Vinny Booboo I’ve driven them all, choose the 19 STI. Had a bolt on 19 WRX for 6 months but I didn’t really like how that sifted or how the clutch felt.... or the steering 😂
@@shane864 same here. 2019 type r owner. 3500 miles.no gear grind. Second gear does notch when u first start to drive bit once I've been driving for about 15 minor so it goes away
I kinda want to trade in my 2018 S4 daily for one of these. Still wouldn't replace my E92 M3 for my weekend car, but I hate my audi and have been looking for a new daily. It seems like a great street car for someone to daily around in if you are like me and enthusiast-minded and want a smooth manual with some functional space and something that doesn't feel totally numb when you steer it.
As a honda enthusiast I am very impressed with the type r... But I just can't bare to look at it. Awkward shape, gawdy detailing. It's just so funky looking.
Why did they have to go so over the top with the looks though? The eg and ek hatches looked great in my opinion. I'm also a fan of the 8th gen coups and sedans but this thing just looks hideous!
... BTCC... It is styled after the race car. This is assembled in England. Similar reasons surround why the states didn't get the previous gen type R... In the end, because racing/racecar
Why? Not every car has to be for everyone. This car was built around a specific purpose, and those who can will be just fine. I guess next you'll say the Veloster-N isn't for you either because it's manual only too. Plenty of other fast, great driving cars out there with only 2 pedals.
Now Honda get the S2000 back
Easy now. One thing at a time
Agreed !!!
Its value per tenth of a second per lap puts it way ahead of cars much more expensive. I think Honda nailed it.
@Sideways G looks are subjective. I, for example, really like how the new Type-R looks. Except for the rear bumper fake vents, they kinda suck. But overall it's a great looking car, probably the best looking from factory Type-R for me, and it's far from being hideous. Yeah, it looks kinda bold and flashy for a stock hot-hatch, but it's not a bad thing for many people.
@Sideways G Except the GTI has all of the nannies that you can't turn off no matter what you do.
@@rlockwood88 Not entirely true - traction control can be disabled in stock for, and you can unlock the ability to toggle ESC on/off via VAG-com in the mk6 platform. Not sure about mk7.
@@aaronboggs5799 2009 to current cannot fully disable ESP. At all. It's a common complaint among track enthusiasts
@@rlockwood88 www.goapr.com/support/esp-defeat.html
This is what I used to successfully enable toggling of ESC in my '12 GTI. I track my car and almost never turn it off. It rarely intrudes - only if the back end is really trying come around.
3:47 the worlds fastest fwd “suv”
he said "in a cartoon sense", wich is a throwback to his cargo-space comment, get it now?
Love my 2018 type-r...cars sick... Handling IS INSANE.
As an FK8 owner, this was enjoyable to watch. I'll be at NCM in September for SCCA time trials, if it's the Grand Course, I'll aim to beat that 2:20 time
I own a Type R and you do get torque steer and becomes very noticeable over slight bumps or uneven pavement. It is still hands down an amazing driving experience.
Rich Abe ....that’s true....
Are you still in stock wheels and suspension?
tim eggenheimer yes
Yann Dupuis nope... torque steer over slight bumps and noticed it pulling hard on a straight line over uneven pavement on my way to work this morning. Honda did an excellent job with this car no doubt especially with dialing out torque steer but it’s not completely eliminated.
@Yann Dupuis I agree. Some of the AWD cars I've driven have a similar sensation if you hop over a bump. This is how cars work.
Searched Type R videos a lot and only seeing this one now for some reason but great review -from someone who clearly know what he's talking about! Had my FK8 type R, from new, for over a year now and still look forward to - and love - driving it! I've been surprised how many people comment on how great my car looks, considering the only negativity you see online from the car journos is the looks.
Finally a good video with the polished metallic color. Dealership here is trying to get me one 😬 this seems to be the least popular color but it’s the one I fell in love with.
I think it's the best color out there looks elegant and mature.
I'd kill for it. I have red and I feel like a dick half the time I'm in it because it's just so over the top looking lol.
I got the polish metallic and I have no regrets, I fell in love with it too
Black
Finally a review that hits all the right points.
Because he’s British. Americans can’t drive or review cars worth a shit
@@BobO-zo2bi Americans can't do shit in general
This is very likely the next FWD somewhat practical track car for when my '08 Mini Cooper S becomes too troublesome/expensive to keep. Great review of a really well designed, solid car!
Very nice car! Had the privilege to drive one, handles amazing, the car is a monster around twisty!
drove one recently, the stability at high speeds (talkin 250 km/h on the autobahn) just blew me away. styling is not a problem for me, i am an nfs underground kiddo, i really dig that (rear fake vents are a bit much tho....).
This is what all of the dipshits ragging on the looks don’t get- all that aero stuff is functional. It’s a commuter that generates several hundred lbs of downforce. I don’t give a damn what it looks like, I feel like I’m driving a race car to work every day. Also, it looks a lot less outlandish now in 2019 than it did when it released. That’s just the direction design is going. Resale value on them is basically MSRP... I have a feeling the cars are going to age very well.
My brain immediately went to this. ua-cam.com/video/efcNLxDIFu4/v-deo.html
@@Coffeeandacigarette hahaha me too ^^
Shane Carr Bravo. Finally someone who talks sense! I own a black FK8 and I also drive it mostly to and from work and I love the styling. F*ck the haters.
Thx for this Great Review!! When on track its great to have a view of the driving wheel and pedals...
Well said! The only opinion that really matters. I LOVE this car so much I bought one! Well done Honda! Well done!
60 fps is a joy to my eyes
Love your videos. Have exactly the content I'm looking for and perfect length.
turn 5 is where this car really impressed me with a min speed of 99mph. For example, it took this turn faster than a GT350 and the SS 1LE.
The brakes are INSANE for what the car is. They eat up speed like you wouldn’t believe.
In the end, I purchased a Focus RS. However, much respect to this car. More compliant than the RS and past 60MPH, I can't even come close to the Type R. Either way, if you're lucky enough to spend money on these crazy cars, consider yourself lucky to have had this experience.
Greatest review i have seen so far.💪🏼
I love my Honda fk8 💯🔥🔰
That trunk cover thing is actually pretty cool
He only covered half of its coolness. It's actually detachable and flippable- you can pull the whole thing out and move it to the other side so it pulls left to right if you want... it's a module. I moved a 9 foot long sectional couch in my Type R. It's the best daily driver ever made bar none.
it comes in stick-shift? Damn! I'm sold!
Only
@@dyingangelo Well, you see, here in the Philippines (I don't know how it is elsewhere) most car dealers only have stick-shift models at the lower to middle end of the spectrum; most of top-of-the-line models are automatic. So to learn that the Type R is stick-shift kind of got me excited about it.
awesome review...no bs straight to the point. luv it!
British no nonsense no emotional review
Just bought a brand new 2020 black type r up here in Canada 🇨🇦
Great review, hope you get to compare against the Veloster N. Also looking forward to seeing a similar video on the Miata.
This was excellent
Great review, though didn’t hear much in the way of criticisms. Nothing is perfect so I’d like to hear some aspects that could be improved or that might be lacking against the competitor, even if just slight.
The entertainment system is sluggish. That needs pepping up. Some people want more exhaust noise, but mine is a daily drive, so I don't want to be cracking and popping up and down the high street, it's just irritating. It's bigger than you expect and longer, so I managed to scrape a wheel on day 2. That's my bad rather than the fault of the car, it's length and width give it stability. As mentioned in the video, people are hot or cold about the looks. I'm a fan. If I wanted to drive a cookie cutter jelly bean car I'd have bought something that looks like a golf (i.e. everything else). There's no configurable driving mode. You have three and it would be nice to pick +R thottle with R suspension and R steering perhaps? It's never really bothered me. It starts in R where everything is taut and responsive. I only slip it into comfort if I'm hitting a road with speed bumps. +R I like for specific roads.
It's front wheel drive, so if it's wet it's quite easy to spin the wheels pulling out of junctions. But again, it's FWD because that's what a Civic Type R is and I'd take the weight saving over a Focus RS any day. That's pretty much it. Anything else comes down to "Is this better than a car twice its price?" style criticisms.
Half the things I listed are design choice compromises where you get the bad is compensated for by good. The list of good things though far outweighs any negative. The seating position means you get IN the car as opposed to ON the car. The turn in is amazing, the stability is amazing. The brakes are amazing. The mid range power is amazing. The sound system is pretty damn good (In the UK we have two spec's, the GT version has better sound). It has safety features like auto brake if it thinks you're about to run over a child or rear end someone. Reverse parking camera with indication of cars or people crossing your path. Lane departure warning. Radar cruise control. it will even steer you along a motorway, which I find freaky. I've picked up 2.5m lengths of timber to bring home, so it's practical. The ride is supple, comfort mode is genuinely comfortable. I could go on. It's much easier to write about the good bits :)
Thats just how good the car is so good that the competition has to actually have AWD/4wd Even if you watch and listen to other people that reviewed it they all say the same styling blablabla could be a louder exhaust all the same if you haven't watched chris harris video you should you might actually find the minute critisms that you're looking for there
@@ianbradley7215 I appreciate your response and insight into being an owner. While I know the car is an outstanding machine I was hoping for a racer's take on it instead of telling us what most already have heard through press material and such. But again, you provided more in your comment than Andy did in the video, and to that I think you.
@Ian Bradley’s reply was great, but this video also delivers what it promises: A racer’s take on the car. Everything he wanted and looked for he got. If you a detailed look at what doesn’t matter to most people then there’s always Doug De Muro’s videos for you :)
I own one and was *not* a fan before buying, the lot just had one and my ST got wrecked so I said fuck it. My impressions- it's legitimately, and I mean this, the best daily driver ever built. It's a 9 or 10 at everything for the price. It's comfortable as hell, fast as hell, handles like crazy, has a gargantuan hatch, seats 4 grown men easily, has the best manual transmission possibly ever, has a super predictable, linear engine and powerband that just keeps going to redline... no baby turbo falling off after 5k... I drive like a dick and still get 20mpg... It's just the best all around street car ever made. I moved a 9 ft sectional couch in mine. I bought it in Chicago and road tripped it to LA a week later with 3 dudes- 6'3 6'3 and 6'0 and it was a couch. It has no downsides beyond the subjective, and the looks have grown on me to be honest. It looks far less outlandish than it did when it was new, I suspect it will stay modern looking when other cars from the era start looking dated... it was just a bit ahead of its time. That said, I do wish it was a bit less flashy since I'm 37... but I also live in LA where you see all kinds of crazy cars all the time so it's really not that bad. If I had to force a complaint it would be the infotainment system. Mine is a 19 and I guess it has been upgraded vs the older ones, but it's still a bit slow. The infotainment in my '17 ST3 was much better. Better satnav, more cohesive... but that's the last thing I care about in a car and the Civic isn't bad, it's just not the best. And really, that's trying hard to nitpick. If you are looking at dd type cars under 70k and can handle the looks, it has no competition.
This is a very Special car , had 1 for about 2 months , I think it makes everything else look boring + it go's like Stink ,Great review 😎
You had one for about 2 month? Okay then what happened to it lol
Jonathan Pontel lol word
Type .5 of this model...detune the exterior looks, further weight savings, that’ll be just perfect 👌
Great job
Had mine for a month. I thought my s2000 was stuck. Love my R....damn autocorrect.
Joe mama what?
@@redlineracing4947 original post said had month for a month. Meant to say mine for a month. Should have proof read first.
Uh.. what?
My dream car😁
The Type-R actually has a better power to weight than the Focus RS because it's making more power at the tires than the Focus RS.
Honda needs to make a 2 door coupe.
@@Tsalinger nsx
And Ford Focus RS puts less power out over time as miles go by.
Have they fixed the overheating problems?
that accent is confusing me, are you from texas or australia? pick one not both lol
Nothing To See Here I know! Great video but the damn accent was distracting and confusing me the entire time. It’s like he became a Brit, Aussie and American all in different sections of the track!
Awesome vid Andy... thank you for sharing your input. I have less than a handful of track days on this course. I've ran the Grand Course and West Course configurations but Grand layout is where it is at IMO. I'm not to far off the 2:20 but I REALLY need to work on my breaking because some I am having issues with the pushing coming into turns from exiting the previous turn. Turn one is my main issue I believe... I am breaking just after 4 but I am carrying more speed ( my car is currently stock except the HKS exhaust ) perhaps I should let off the throttle sooner before i get to 4? Is there any input that you could share or tips that might help me? Thank you Andy YOU ROCK 👍
*Looks at 2019 STI getting 25mpg
Vinny Booboo I’ve driven them all, choose the 19 STI. Had a bolt on 19 WRX for 6 months but I didn’t really like how that sifted or how the clutch felt.... or the steering 😂
GL getting it for that price of 34k 😂
Airrick my local dealer has 5 brand new ones asking $36K...that’s not far off and a good deal IMO
I own a 2018 and i hated the gears because its very notchy and i seldom get 2nd gear grind.
I thought they fixed it that on 2018
2019, it's the best manual trans I've ever felt. 6000 miles on it and nothing but buttery smooth, ultra positive notchy in the good way shifts.
Don't buy a first yr car.
@@shane864 same here. 2019 type r owner. 3500 miles.no gear grind. Second gear does notch when u first start to drive bit once I've been driving for about 15 minor so it goes away
I got 2nd gear grind twice in one day on my 2020.. probably was around 3000 miles or so
2:50 isn’t that what MAKES the car a hatchback
I kinda want to trade in my 2018 S4 daily for one of these. Still wouldn't replace my E92 M3 for my weekend car, but I hate my audi and have been looking for a new daily. It seems like a great street car for someone to daily around in if you are like me and enthusiast-minded and want a smooth manual with some functional space and something that doesn't feel totally numb when you steer it.
I can't figure out this guy's accent?!?!
Mix of American and Australian/South African?
It’s not American thank god
Great, consistent track car, hideous exterior. Great review
4 doors destroys this ride
As a honda enthusiast I am very impressed with the type r... But I just can't bare to look at it. Awkward shape, gawdy detailing. It's just so funky looking.
Ford fans will still believe their Mustangs and RS are faster than this JDM vehicle on the track 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
mustangs are faster than this car on the track... the GT PP2 is no joke
This is not jdm🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Niko Virta it was developed in Japan
@@f181234 ...and then sold around the world
Interlution you idiot they are
Too bad it sounds like a vacuum cleaner
The focus RS out sold the type r all over the world and it's more fun plus AWD is better in every condition
Lol. Easy now tough guy 💪. Where's the RS model production now???? Exactly
It does all these things great but, it's still kinda like putting lipstick on a pig !..
I’ve seen videos about this car for months and I just noticed the hood scoop!
That just shows that the car is really over designed
It's functional as is all the other "over designed" elements 🙄
@@elliotserrano7333 Well, the hood scoop and the wing actually do stuff. The fake bumper vents... not so much.
It's fuctional idiot lol
Why did they have to go so over the top with the looks though? The eg and ek hatches looked great in my opinion. I'm also a fan of the 8th gen coups and sedans but this thing just looks hideous!
Any publicity is good publicity
... BTCC... It is styled after the race car. This is assembled in England. Similar reasons surround why the states didn't get the previous gen type R... In the end, because racing/racecar
Fucking yuck. Subaru Boxer all day
It's still freakin ygly
ONLY a manual stick shift? What a disappointment. Not for me.
🐱
Lmfaooooo
Why? Not every car has to be for everyone. This car was built around a specific purpose, and those who can will be just fine. I guess next you'll say the Veloster-N isn't for you either because it's manual only too. Plenty of other fast, great driving cars out there with only 2 pedals.
It’s the best manual transmission out there. If you don’t have the skill to shift your own gears, get another car.
Your right, definitely NOT for you.
Its FUGLY.......
No sale......
Yes, its ugly. But they are selling pretty well.
As usual, looks are subjective. It's what happens behind the wheel that counts. Buying cars solely on looks alone will not end well.