Kirsche Fixes Chat's "Harmful Language"
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I like that "Committed suicide" is bad so they suggest "died by suicide." It really shows how afraid of commitment they are
When a truck attacked xyz
"Eliminate harmful language" As if there will ever be a stopping point.
It's as fruitful as trying to eliminate violence
You are what they want to ultimately eliminate
Any word or phrase used to describe a stigmatized group will eventually become a stigmatized word. Just how we went invalid -> disabled -> differently abled. See George Carlin shell shock segment.
"Eliminate harmful language" is problematic, please use "Introduce to God unpleasant visual or auditory words."
Kirsche calling it "Chinesium" is very appropriate, because this is exactly how communist China started out
"Balls to the wall" is an aircraft term. The throttle had balls at the end of it, so putting the balls all the way against the firewall is going at maximum engine power.
But broooooo, men baaaaaaaaaaaad
@@rainman8534funny, there is an option to translate your comment into english and all it did was translate men into people.
Edit: that's weird the option is now gone.
@@InquisitorShepard not for me it ain't. Translating men into people is synchronicity
@@InquisitorShepard UA-cam realized they were going against the narrative, since men obviously aren’t people
whyd it have to be balls? subliminal messaging by our patriarchy overlords? fuck being women is hard
'Basket case' was a person who served in WWI and had developed severe shell shock. The especially severe cases of shell shock were often given the task of making baskets as a form of therapy.
Source is America's Secret Slang.
This was my understanding of the term as well. "Basket weaving" is a therapeutic technique used to this day. I've never heard it as "someone who ended up in a basket because all of their limbs were blown off".
@@Fraulein_Sausageball didn't know it was still used. Learn something new everyday I guess!
basket case first known use was 1919 meaning "a person who has all four limbs amputated" this is the official definition offered by merriam webster, but it also says it's use is "dated" meaning no one uses it anymore so it has nothing to do with people using the word now XD idk wtf this article was talking about, and to me basket case is more negative, you use that for something crazy... i wouldn't attribute ALL nervousness to basket cases... that sounds like an incredibly wrong thing to do... how does such a big website offer alternatives that are worse than the original terms...
@@matthewrawlings1284 it's now filed under the category "ergonomic therapy"
We must not let the authoritarians pervert and destroy our language. Good on Kir for bringing light to those seeking to control our language and in turn, control our thoughts.
-doublespeak 1984
She had to load this page from an archive, which implies it's no longer available on stanford's site. They know what they are doing is wrong
Calling her Kir sounds like she s klingon.
Instead of saying "Allah demands the streets be awash with the blood of Americans", say, "Allah demands the streets be awash with the blood of the citizens of the United States".
Although I disagree with the teachings of Allah most of the time, I kinda see where he’s coming from
@@NotsilYmerej if our road budget were higher, we wouldn't need the blood floods every week to keep things tidy
@@asparagusoffice ah, but the blood floods wouldn’t help reduce the number of homeless people, and gradually bring down housing costs.
@@NotsilYmerej Instead of saying "I kinda see where he's coming from", say the prescribed rak'a five times daily while facing Mecca.
@@Fraulein_Sausageball how about I just draw the prophet Mohammed instead
The R word. The word most feared by either side of all isles. Imma say it
Re....ality
Reason and responsibility. Maybe even renown and respect while we are at it.
"Control the Language, Control the Masses"
"Harrison Bergeron" by Kurt Vonnegut is the short story where they put buzzing in the ears of smart people to make them unable to think good.
The buzzing wasn't the only device used. Essentially, everyone was made equal through prosthetics that would reduce your ability to the lowest person. The titular character was exceptional in nearly every way and broke free of the prosthetics amd was killed by the police. His parents watching this event occur on TV began to realize what was happening until their brain buzzers stopped them from noticing.
It's called the Euphemism Treadmill. Doug Stanhope did a great joke about it years ago about whatever word the PC nerds come up with, we're going to use it to make fun of the guy that puts a fork in an electrical socket. That term is going to be changed and we're going to use the new term. It never stops.
Euphemism Treadmill is one of the tags for this vid ;)
Things must be changed for no reason because the mindless masses cannot see things if they stay the same for more than a few years. If language didn't change in stupid ways, they would be unable to communicate in a matter of decades.
This is why we should keep the term for stupid people the same, making the medical term “mentally re*arded” so that no one’s going to put up with it.
Instead, neurodivergent was shortened to ND because the people using it as a fashion statement are too lazy. Now ND is going to be the insult
@@xyz39808 the Euphemism Treadmill is just westerners regressing to the level of the Tonga tribe, which are the people we get the word Taboo from. Taboo was a practice by which a word was considered unsayable and a new one would have to be invented to convey the same meaning.
Makes it easier to convince people to just ignore any information that's more than a few weeks old and thus not in line with the latest version of The Narrative™.
'thug' being offensive because it 'often takes on a racial connotation' is so telling of the people who came up with this list
So, here's something interesting: thug originally referred to members of the Thuggee cult of India, who were psycho murderers. They had to be violently stamped out by the British soldiers garrisons there, and I believe were the inspiration for the Kali Ma cult in Indiana Jones.
It was only later on that it lost any religious or cultish implications and simply came to mean, "stupidly violent asshole".
"who uses Brave as a noun"
The King of Braves, Gaogaigar, of course.
If you look at the history of censorship in the western tradition, especially from the Enlightenment onwards, it quickly becomes apparent that "harmful" language bans cannot be maintained. Simply the use of metaphor, simile, euphemism, etc., make censorship a futile enterprise. Even in Soviet Russia it was ineffective, since the censor's overcorrection or haplessness in the face of irony and sarcasm only succeeded in imparting information via exclusion.
I agree with you, but it isn't about censoring the words but to give them a way to criminalize people like us.
@@Enchiethey'll martyr those they assault and silence, drumming up severe resistance against censorship.
Rather than "room temp IQ," I suggest "winter IQ" when referring to the people who wrote this thing.
Or “journalist IQ”
And at this point, I’ve started using “Californian” as an insult
@@NotsilYmerej Californian has always been an insult to me.
@@scottphillips6005 I’m sorry it’s taken me so long, the news has always depressed and infuriated me, so I’m a little slow on realizing these things.
@@NotsilYmerej Learning to hate California is just part of growing up where I live (Colorado). They've ruined my state.
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44:05 "Balls to the wall" has NOTHING to do with anatomy!
It comes from military aviation (or maybe aviation in general), where putting the "balls" (the knob on the throttle lever) to the upper limit (the "wall"). While I'm sure there might be some innuendo there, it's just an expression for full-throttle/takeoff power/wartime-emergency-power, and is explicitly a reference to the mechanics of doing so. It is the aviation-equivalent of saying "pedal to the metal."
I mean the r word is used for idle the throttles on Airbus, apparently it's another word meaning slow that was used to sound nicer way to refer to someone that became a slur
@@AnD1262 Yeah, the etymology of... that word (avoiding it for UA-cam censors) comes from a way of saying "slow," or "delayed." It's pretty much a scientific term (see: "Fire R*****ant," which is not wholly fireproof but very fire resistant).
It was used, as far as I'm aware, scientifically to refer to certain developmental conditions (slow mental development). Of course, as terminology evolved -and people got more sensitive- , it began to be considered offensive.
Since Airbus is a multinational company, many of whose constituents are not English speakers, this minor nuance of English terminology was probably lost on their designers.
One time, a lady at work came up and asked me if I needed something. I said as kindly as I could, "I have no freaking clue what's going on with this machine." She then gasped at me and shuffled off. 30 minutes later, I get summoned to the boss' office with an HR manager for a verbal warning, all because I used the word "freaking".
Afterwards, the boss pulled out of earshot of HR to let me know that he was tired of this stuff and he had some uncouth words of his own - that YT won't let me share - for HR and this lady that keeps reporting people.
So by censoring yourself so you don’t say ducking, because you’re in polite society, you got in trouble because she was freaking the fuck out
@@NotsilYmerej Yup. And the boss reffered to her as a "mentally inept dog of the female veriety"... obviously not in front of HR, who was on a power trip at the time.
HR is the enemy of the people
@@keystrix3704 HR hate
if people like this actually don't want to be seen as petit tyrants they should really stop rules lawyering with their made up BS.
In my house , we say the R word and use the hard R..... often together.
You’re going to have to be more specific… for some ducking reason, hard R doesn’t mean just one thing anymore
I used to listen to a podcast where one of the hosts described his OCD. He said that he needed to vacuum his apartment in a very particular manner. Otherwise, it will bother him all day to the point where it can affect his daily life. Imagine telling this man that he is simply "detail oriented."
I remember an episode of Scrubs that had a Doctor with ocd. He was considered a super doctor for his mastery of both the pharmaceutical and surgical aspects of medicine (most doctors seem to be one or the other instead of excelling at both diagnosis and surgery in the series and I don't know much about real hospitals). At the end of the episode however after idolising the man the whole time JD encounters him at the automatic doors at the entrance to the hospital repeatedly redoing his exit because he put his feet in the wrong order and having ocd meant he could not stand the discomfort of something as mundane as not putting one foot first. Probably he'll for those that live with the condition and they probably wouldn't appreciate downplaying how severe their compulsion is.
@@JapaneseanimeguyI'm like this with alternating which foot steps across the sidewalk indentions. If it ever doubles up I can't stand it, it's like a shock goes through my body as I fixate on it.
Bureaucracy in action, trying to control the words we use to control thoughts.
We remove the words that best describe a person’s anti social behaviour, so we can then strip said disorders and behaviour of negative attributes so normalization takes place.
It’s always in front of us. Just call it out.
ok im calling it out, MAPs. I don't think we need to necessarily use these weird euphemism softening the word pedophile, especially these freaks that talk about legalizing marrying children etc etc lets call it what it is please.
Ah, I know what this is. It's about replacing terms like 'master and slave' with 'parent and child'. Dunno what they're gonna replace 'male and female' with.
Body type 1 and body type 2
Type A and Type B
Yeah.... replies missed the point that these are technical terms.
People are too young to know about setting drive jumpers.
Just try to get china to change connector types, i'll go make popcorn.
Ally and victim. Because that’s all they see women as
My bet is “assaulter” and “victim”
Chief is an English word.
You can not eliminate hateful language. People will either think of new terms to get around or they will use the bad words out of spite over and over.
35:00 I'm going to quit saying "bury the hatchet" and instead suggest we "smokem peace pipe."
lmfao
“My first cat’s name was Spaz” I wonder if H.P. Lovecraft was able to use that line of reasoning 😂
Friendly reminder: HP Lovecraft was afraid of air conditioning, ultraviolet light, and non-Euclidean (non-flat) geometry.
@@NotsilYmerejBased. As based as what he named his cat.
@@pinip_f_werty1382 I don’t know why people think Lovecraft hated or feared black people, he named Ni-[comment removed by moderator, and commenter removed from life]
@@NotsilYmerej Tbh though, he got significantly less racist the longer he lived.
Guess what?
Their replacement for OCD is just an unhelpful stereotype.
Doesn't accessible parking imply that anyone can use it? because all car parks are accessible until someone parks in them?
They can’t stop me. I’ll use euphemisms if they take the words away. Not even because I want to be “harmful”, but because screw these moral busybodies
the correct response to globohomo coercion
Reminder that "chief" derives from Old French and Latin. It's not an indian word. These people putting their ignorance on full display.
not to mention black men call each other chief as a term of endearment, same with boss. it's pretty clearly not anything to do with native americans
These people think natives raised horses. You can't help them.
Nothing quite like the pretentiousness of authoritarians. Side note, unenlightened is way more insulting than tone deaf, unenlightened has many more negative connotations.
Also blink and you'll miss it, they suggest not using brave because it "perpetuates the sterotype of the noble courageous savage", then only two rows down call Geronimo a brave warrior. I'm not giving them any charity, I'd bet someone did that on purpose, and although I wish it was because someone was trying to show how ridiculous this all is, I doubt it.
25:40 "I get a pass because that was my cat's name". Oh boy, HP Lovecraft is going to be thrilled with this news!
I'm going to repeat it _ad nauseum_ , but Harry Potter Lovecraft was 8 when his family adopted the cat of the infamous name, so it's very unlikely he had much influence on its name (changing a pet's name because it's offensive is just cringe).
Addicts are the problem, not dealers. Demand creates supply, not the other way around. Addicts are not victims, they victimize others. The exception, are those forced to become addicts as a means of control. Now that I have angered many people, I will use this site as a reference for words to use around others.
The second half of your comment is how human traffickers work. Absolute, worse of humanity as they used the craziest things to keep people under their control.
Addicts are victims of their own bad choices. I can have sympathy for their suffering, while still condemning them for being complete invalids
Addicts aren't the problem and thats pretty obvious, neither are dealers. I know why you want to think that, its simple. Demonizing people makes them easy targets and you dont ever have to challenge your own world view. Addicts and dealers are created by a non sufficient society, a society that makes people be dealers by not giving them livable wages. A society that makes people addicts by being inherently mentally draining and horrible. You are speaking from an incredibly priviliged point of view.
@polishspy3088 Get off your high horse. Society is at its best right now. Dealers choose to sell drugs because they think its easy money. Addicts are people seeking thrill because they believe they are without purpose or feel isolated. We don't work like we used to, and automation is taking over. There are so many people around that people feel they aren't unique but just another human. You can go online and find hundreds that share very similar experiences as you. It's why gender spectrum even started. Used to be just gender dsyphoria, but now people have to feel unique or they go into a depression. It's why they get so aggressive when called out on it.
@@polishspy3088 Crikey, don't inhale the whole tank of copium in one huff.
Confined to a wheelchair got a meaning means the person can't get out of it on there own
We have gone from 7 dirty words you can’t say on TV to a whole list of words you can’t say at all. If George Carlin were alive today he would have material for years.
This list should get "the whole nine yards".
Using imperial measurement system is offensive to us , people of the meter.
My workplace uses “Stand Up” pretty often, but what’s funny is that I don’t work in tech. I’m a warehouse wagie
You should take 20 minutes and read Harrison Bergeron. Chatter who brought it up was spot on, and it's quite a short read.
Truly a double plus ungood website
Man, I can't wait for the next WWE Person-with-a-disability Match🔥🔥🔥🔥
Brings new meaning to children getting cancelled
Kirsche streams are so comfy 😩
On the "he" front they've made some progress in altering the english language, where if the speaker is uncertain or doesn't specify the gender of the singular person, "they" is often used over "he" despite the fact that "they" implies multiple people and should not be used to refer to a single person.
"They" has always been used to refer to people of indeterminate genders. That's not new. Don't attribute the origin of a term to their ideologies, even if it coincidentally aligns with their ends.
@@ceriswhite Not always, and even when it was occassionally used, it was almost always in a general sense, not when you're referring to an actual person you just happen to not know the gender of. But it's standard now in the spheres they control, and it's objectively bad grammar.
11:13 "died by suicide" lol so then what do we call it if someone suicide bombs and you die by that action?
died by 2nd degree suicide
Then you were "culturally enriched".
Died by having pertinent information on business dealings of the Clinton family.
28:51 Greybeard sounds bloody awesome. I want to be called that when I'm older.
This what happens when Tumblr takes over.
Kirsche making up new slurs. i have a submission "chicken washers"
"People of Fabuloso vapour"
I just keep thinking back to the George Carlin bit on “language that takes the life out of life”.
"Instead of He, use their name or They"
...so we should just disregard his preferred pronouns, then? Jesus wept this inclusivity bullshit destroys itself.
No, no, you only disregard it for white people, or men (especially if they’re both).
This is list is exactly why George Carlin had a skit about "soft language" and how it makes us weak
1 more step towards Fahrenheit 451 becoming reality
Bruh i didnt even know it was "The Republic of the Philippines", i grew up with everyone saying either The Philippines or Pilipinas. And adding the word Islands is basically judt getting technical that it's an archipelago.
And here i thought i couldnt get angrier at anything more than "occular visit"
“Instead of saying ballsy, say risk taker.”
Yeah, and who is generally considered the biggest risk takers, to the point there’s a meme about ‘this is why women live longer?’
A basket case was the term used for someone who got shell shock in the Great War and was put into an asylum. These men were often taught to weave baskets to support themselves and self soothe.
>non-vocal/nonverbal
So my partial muteness due to tism means I'm dumb?
That's what dumb means, mute. You'll hear it in slightly older terms, such as deaf and dumb
I always think "bury the hatchet" is burying the hatchet in someone's head.
If TIME is correct it's actually this:
"The tar baby is a form of a character widespread in African folklore. In various folktales, gum, wax or other sticky material is used to trap a person." The term itself was popularized by the 19th-century Uncle Remus stories by Joel Chandler Harris, in which the character Br'er Fox makes a doll out of tar to ensnare his nemesis Br'er Rabbit.
Tar baby is an enemy in Quake.
List: you cant say gang
Every Aboriginal in Australia: Nooooo how am I supposed to talk about a bunch of my friends as one group.
We’re insults me more than any disability slur is the thought that they think I’m too stupid to not realize I am normal for having a physical disability. That’s why I’m trying to fix that with surgery.
you commit an action, with a means and a goal.
you do not commit by 'goal' you commit by 'action'
so once goal is fulfilled
you 'commited' action not goal.
I vaguely remember the film demolition man being a cheesey action film not some kind of prophecy.
8:04 i just looked it up, according to merriam webster first known use is 1919 in sense 2, sense 2 being: a person who has all four limbs amputated it mentions nothing about needing to be carried in a basket case XD and merriam webster even says its "dated, informal, offensive" literally not a single person use it for that sense at all.
SPAZ 12 aka the Jurassic park shotgun
*SPAS-12
Semi-automatic Pump-Action Shotgun = S.P.A.S.
Kirsche is likely the only fox vtuber with authentic fox sounds.
Man George Carlin did the Language set in 1980s or so and since then it became so much worse
This seems like a good list to use to expand my own vocabulary so that everyone uncool avoids me and everyone cool wants to be my friend.
As someone who's often called "Spade" by online friends, I've only ever had one instance of someone telling me that my online name was offensive. I told him he was wrong and he left me alone, lol.
Don't call a spade a spade, that's far worse than calling an addict an addict. 🤣
I'm happy that my friend and I are not the only ones that have pointed out that "Latine" sounds like Latrine
Wagon fort tactics have been in use long before the colonial american period. It was used across europe and asia. Early uses have been seen by germanic tribes. The hussites and cossacks especially were renown for using wagon forts.
Also, is there a way to make everyone 240iq able to run 100 meters in 9.8 seconds and jump 10 feet while lifting 1.2k pounds?
No theres not, you can however make everyone dumb, slow, unfit and unhappy.
Remember equity is bad
Calling someone 'wild' is way worse than calling someone crazy, because calling someone wild in that context is basically the same as calling them feral, and thus putting their intelligence on the same level as an animal.
I read that short story in high school. Always stuck with me as well.
Kirsche is my spirit animal 😅😂. I prefer the term Congress Creature for those in the capital swamp.
1:00:35 some of us Canadian folk are offended that we havent been annexed yet.
I feel like these people would be shocked to find out that words in the dictionary in fact carry multiple meanings.
@Kirsche - you know better than to deny that which you cannot prove. Stand Up (Meeting). It is metropolitan in nature, but it indicates an impromptu meeting due to a change in the work required by a group, so the group can provide input to the supervisor, and the supervisor can discuss new requirements of the group. Maybe it is more west coast? It is very corporate, as it indicates everyone stand up and step out of their cubicles, having the meeting in the walkway or a corner of the work area.
replace "lame" with "boring"
that's like the biggest escalation. having lame moments is one thing but I'd be on watch if a friend called me boring
the trouble with the euphemism treadmill is that the intent is to stop people from making derogatory remarks about each other, but language is a slippery beast.
I won't turn this into a blog post, but my cousins once had an inside joke that involved jokingly calling someone a car seat as if it were a slur. There wasn't even a sly double meaning, they just settled on the idea that that was the word you used to insult someone. the niche always gets filled by something and vilifying one particular set of mouth noises can never, ever stop that.
saying someone is devoted to a hard drug followed by a laugh will get that term branded as bad in no time, saying someone is "devoted to meth" tickles me in a way "addicted" never has
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST IF I DIDNT KNOW THERE WAS A METAL ROD IN MY LEG AND I WOULD BLEED OUT BEFORE I COULD CUT THRU IT SWEAR TO GOD THE HACKSAW I KEEP NEXT TO MY BED WOULD HAVE MORE RUST ON IT
Ah yes, my favourite government position, Commander-in-Biden.
I heard Peanut Gallery came from the Howdy Doody show.
The US struggling with 17th century social issue is funny. Blackrock bribing politicians in my country to enact shit like this also kinda funny cause we ain't speaking the horse shiet language.
16:56 Harrison Bergeron
Does someone have the link for the article in the wayback Kirsche had? Would love to have it.
it's visible on screen at the start
17:10 I remember this story it was a world where everyone was forced to be equal in all ways by the world's government
Guru is used as a sign of respect in many fields for people who know a lot about a subject. Nobody in the west cares about how a monk in the east used it.
Stanford is expensive. It's nice to see where all that intuition money is going.
I have a form of OCD that has nothing to do with detail it’s more of picking or scratching at things without realizing I’m doing it. If someone called me detail oriented I would be extremely confused.
16:53 "Harrison Bergeron" is a very short but good story and imho the closest dystopia we are heading to. It's pretty much "equity" taken to its logical conclusion but without the anti-white id pol racism because that wasn't yet a thing in 1960. It has been adapted into a tv film and two short films, we could maybe have a watchalong someday.
Nim, Nim, NIIIIIIM. Please tell her about it.
"Red Team" or Red Force, come from military terminology during the cold war. Primarily the Red team was the USSR and communist force. Hence the colour red as it is on their flags. The Enemy force. Allies were Blue Force or the Blue Team. Its still used to day.
Ngl i like "devoted". Just be like "Yeah man im devoted to smokin this whole rock. Im a Crack devotee. The plug call me Crackrock Incorporated with how much money i be investing"
I suggest another alternative to "lame": "Disneyfied".
Look man I'm going to use what words i want when I'm not in a professional scenario or around people who don't like those words being used
"Harmful" seems to mean "can be used in a negative way" as in calling someone an addict is no more and no less useful or hurful than calling someone racist. In both ways we attack some quality that we percieve as negative.
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Man, if I ever do go ahead and become a streamer then I'll just fukkin have my main audio and video stream on whichever platform, and a secondary audio only stream my viewers can listen to externally, getting mixed by their OS and whenever I said something normal which is considered controversial, I hit a foot switch or something and it comes out on the external stream, hot damn.
If she’s 1/32 Warren has about as much native blood as I do, I’m not native I’m a mut just like most people are.
Instead of sudoku why not afflicted with the Canadian healthcare system?
20:00 What's surprising is that headmates are still a thing and are going stronger than ever, they just rebranded during to "systems". And they've never just a member of a "system", oh no, they always, -always- have the same spew of expected "x in bio" stereotypes. Also, do not interact with them, they are some of the most furiously neurotic people on the internet and since their community is very interconnected, they will swarm you like locusts.
vod channel upload feb14th titled "Tangent Jumpscare" goes over "systems" a lot