Best & Worst Marvel Legacy Characters
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
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The MCU is currently in the process of shifting away from a bunch of mainline characters like Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, Black Panther and Thor. At the same time some characters began as the legacy versions like Scott Lang's Ant-Man and Captain Marvel. Here we go through some of the best and worst versions for a bunch of these. Thanks for watching!
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I'm extremely disappointed in the shameless advertisement near the beginning of the video. While many creators are struggling to get by, James is blatantly showing off his two basketball hoops while performing near-impossible feats of athleticism AND promoting land ownership. I guess the Disney money finally ran out.
Just forward it..
@@jonathanrynjah He's joking
@@ProtestTheIndie *cough* *cough*
@@ProtestTheIndie he's joking
@@JGburneraccount it's a bad joke
I think the best legacy character is Ned Leeds as the CEO of Sex after the death of Tony Stark.
This is it
Excuse me
When I read Ned Leeds I was mentally prepared to read Hobgoblin next I was NOT prepared for that joke
One man does two voices and has a conversation with himself. Quality content
Sounds like the same Aussie to me as well.
@@mr.dr0bot731 its actually one Aussie and a komodo dragon named Simon sitting silently in the background. The 3rd voice is an AI.
@@mr.dr0bot731 you've been cosby'd
Not like the Pitch Meeting guys, those dudes are so annoying.
Racist. Clearly hear two different Africans
After nu-goblin, the legacy character of Corn of Coblin is the best
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O boy! Google Images, here I come!
Corn of Coblin is the OG character. 🤦
Corn of Coblin and his son, Canned Cream of Coblin.
Korn of Coblin originated Nu Goblin
I did enjoy X-23 as Wolverine, even if half the stuff I read was just people going "oh, you're not the Wolverine I was hoping for."
Marvel civilians are so mean 😄
Have you walked around New York in a a Lego Marvel game? Such a-holes. 😄
She's Wolverine now.
I mean, have you _seen_ real people? Comic books are probably the _nicer_ versions of real people.
@@mahna_mahna Canadian comic book writer Jim Zub in his interview promoting his new Hawkeye centric Thunderbolts miniseries with Jason from ComicPop, told him about this one time he was at NYC for either a Marvel conference or NYCC and how he saw this traffic cop and this lady just arguing about whether or not her parking space was legal in these comically over the top “ New Yhark” accents. He said it was the most authentically New York thing he’s ever seen!
That Scotland land/lord sponsor has officially been labelled as an illegal scam
I came here to say this. Glad I’m not the only one.
Illegal no. Scam yes
@@conormurphy4328legality is dubious at best. It breaks advertising laws in many countries but there's little if any precedent for online advertisements being enforced.
From what I've read it wouldn't be legal in Scotland, but they're not actually based there so they seem to skirt any punishment.
More importantly it seems like the sort of thing that people would get you as a lame gift and people should know that it doesn't "make an amazing last minute gift" and if you actually like your friends you'll just give them the cash.
Nobody wants a piece of paper proving you wasted money that you could have spent on them. If you're really offended by the idea of giving money give them food, everybody has to eat.
@SineN0mine3 If you didn't like my Christmas gift, you should have just told me 😢
On the topic of Thor: for me the best spin-off character has been Beta Ray Thor. Not that I have anything against Jane as Thor, but I think Beta Ray was the first to lift the Hammer and be Thor for any period of time. I love that he's alien, showing that even the gods of Humans can effect other races. Love his ship, Scuttlebutt. And he's been consistently the "other" Thor in the Marvel Universe since the 80s.
Also, Eric Masterson was Thor during the Infinity Gauntlet event.
I agree. Also I don’t want to sound like a dork, his name is actually Beta Ray Bill
"There's a character called Khn'nr-"
"I already hate him."
I like it when James steps in holding a piece of paper.
Claire’s chuckle at James’ incredible feat of athleticism near the end of the clip speaks for all of us I think
I never liked how long the Clone Saga went on but I always loved Ben Reilly as a character. I liked him more as Scarlet Spider, but his Spider-Man suit has a pretty sick design. His temporary bonding with the Carnage symbiote is still one of my favorite arcs.
I haven’t read much of the classic 90’s Ben Reilly comics, but I did read all of Christopher Yost’s Scarlet Spider and the Peter David written post-Clone Conspiracy Scarlet Spider where he’s trying to regain his sanity and become the person he was before. Because of that, I’m actually more of a fan of Kaine Parker, since Chris Yost did such an impressive job turning a quasi-sympathetic bad guy clone into such a great “Jerk with A Heart of Gold” character. It’s a damn shame Kaine’s Scarlet Spider disappeared for so long after that New Warriors relaunch failed and he disappeared into the multiverse in the first Spider-Verse event.
I don't think anyone liked how long it went on.
Not many costumes effectively incorporated a hoodie.
Clone saga was straight booty hole but Ben reily and kane weren't bad. However the whole "is our peter parker really a clone?!?" Plot was dumb as hell
@@Inebriated_Goat Considering it was the first time they tried to _retire_ Peter Parker and introduce a legacy replacement at the same time. They really didn't think it through.
Ben Reilly has always been one of my favourite comic book characters, and yes I first saw him in that episode of Spider-Man TAS you sampled!
I got into comics during the original West Coast Avengers run, so Rhoedy has always had a special place as my first Iron Man
I will forever defend and remind people that Scott Lang has a Master's degree in Electrical Engineering. I get slightly triggered whenever they make him look stupid. 🙃
We were promised Ben by the Patreon title. I feel lied to.
We cannot fault James for having Ben from Canada on the mind or we would all be guilty of that crime
James lies quite a lot, still waiting on that snake eyes review.
@@dustinakadustin they did that and the red dwarf review in the same episode.
@@mrbransformer4184 oh yes, the famous lost episode!
Ben is the mr sunday movies legacy character
The best Legacy characters are the friends we made along the way.
Ironheart always reminds me of a name for a Care Bear lol
I just want a movie called Iron Man Legacy about the kid from Iron Man 3 becoming the next Iron Man. We can follow his life for the next 20 years as he goes from nothing to building his budget Iron Man suit, maybe struggling morally at times to make it more interesting, but always making the right decisions in the end, eventually becoming as rich and as powerful as Tony Stark with his own empire built from scratch
I would love to see him return. The actor even said he would be down if they wanted him. But I feel like they won't because they have iron heart now.
while the clone saga did go on too long, the scarlet spider costume is probably top 3 costumes
The initial MCU costume for Tom Holland was essentially a color reverse version of it.
*"Spider-Man's life seems to be going quite well right now and it seems like readers can't relate to that. So, what should we do to make his life terrible?"*
-Marvel during the Clone Saga
-Marvel during One More Day/Brand New Day
-Marvel right now
Fun Fact: Established Titles is a total scam.
How
Nevermind you are right
The Eric Masterson Thor was the Thor who fought Thanos in the original Infinity Gauntlet storyline.
Eric Masterson was the Thor in the Infinity Gauntlet. It always disappointed me so I always remember that single HUGE story he was in.
That’s how crossovers go, there’s always a substitute version of some character going on when you gather them all together.
I wouldn't say he's the best or worst but I'm surprised you didn't talk more about the original Captain Marvel.
As far as I'm aware he was one of the first titular superheroes to meaningfully die and it was to cancer. I'm pretty sure they've never fully brought him back and he's still canonically dead
Legacy Characters are the characters that come AFTER the Original Characters.
@@Nerwrax15 Ooooooh I'm a big dumb
@@exzyyd392 don't sweat it lol
Also that’s not the original Captain Marvel.
@@exzyyd392 To be honest it took me a while to figure it out, as well.
I'm a big fan of the 1602 version of Thor. He's an elderly Templar protecting the order's secret weapon, which in that continuity, is Mjolnir in the form of a staff. What's fun about the character is that wielding Mjolnir and transforming into Thor presents a deep moral conflict for him: he's a devout Christian, but Thor is a manifest heathen god. Brief as his appearance is, I thought his struggle to reconcile his identity as both a Crusader and a God was really interesting.
Sounds extremely stupid. Almost as stupid as Atlas Shrugged...
my favourite Amalgam character was a cross between Matter-Eater Lad and Paste-Pot Pete named Paste-Eater Pete
From Spider-Boy Team-Up, right?
@@Popcultureguy3000 yep!
I would a series of these videos. Feel like you could do like 10 of them.
don’t be silly
I wouldn’t a series but I like the video idea.
I didn't think i knew peak human performance until i saw James riding a child scooter while eating a banana.
...until that is i noticed he wasn't actually eating the banana and the illusion was shattered. I don't know what to believe anymore.
I ate the banana later but I’ll be honest with you, you’re right and I apologise
"You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like."
I've listened to these guys while doing so many drives and other activities without sustaining any injuries. 10/10 stars, this is in app!
Loved the rare appearance of Mr. Sunday Movies in his natural habitat
That Dr Worm reference is a sincerely a good reference Mason, well done for referencing a thing I like in a video about other things I like. I say congratulations.
Love that we're getting simultaneous differences in opinions from what we're hearing are the worst legacy characters and what we're seeing 🤣Magic of Editing babyyyy!
A sponsor that aged like milk.
I always love the idea of Kaine Parker who's just spiderman with deadpool backstory and color scheme
As a houstonian, I approve.
Mark of Kaine is still cool. I prefer him to Ben
The Christopher Yost Scarlet Spider comic is one of the most underrated comic books of the early 2010’s. It’s a shame the Spider writers seemed to give up on him after Christopher Yost’s Kaine Parker led relaunch of the New Warriors failed and got cancelled after 12 issues.😢
My favorite Marvel legacy characters are Kate Bishop and Laura Kinney. There are a surprising amount of really good ones.
That Iron Man cover with ‘My Friend, My Foe, The Fearless Freak’ on it has always been at the back of my mind since I was a kid and saw it in a comic book shop. Haven’t even read the comic , I still just love that cover, so was cool to see it again here
Mr Sunday movies… I regret to inform you that established titles is a scam. Your not actually buying land in Scotland. You’ve fallen victim to the corn of cobblins trap
I always thought best bringing Andrew Garfield into the MCU fully as the scarlet spider
Sure, Dr. Warren gets a blood sample from the statue o’ liberty and clones up one Andrew Garfield. It could be great.
That'd be a cool idea.
Established Titles is a scam, look it up. Selling souvenir plots of land and promising to donate to tree-planting orgs is fine, but you don't get to legally own said souvenir plot in the eyes of Scotland, nor do you get to officially add the title Lord/Lady/Laird to your name based on ownership of said souvenir plot. Also, the souvenir plot is located in an area that is already marked for preservation.
I look forward to these videos every week. Thank you for the comedy and knowledge. 🤘🏻
Spider-man 2099 is underrated, I think he's one of the better written Spider-man legacy characters. And Beta Ray Bill deserves that best Thor replacement, as far as best character goes
Cosmic Ghost Rider can go for either Ghost Rider or Punisher and is my favorite version of both just because of how wacky and crazy it is. The storyline there is legitimately really good though on top of just being an absolutely wild ride.
Yes I would so love a movie or miniseries about the character. I literally sat down with the graphic novel of it and finished it in the same night. So much fun.
@@hunterprice3320 I agree, would love to see a short series
You guys left out blue marvels legacy character he had a son but when he wasn't saving the world he settled down on a farm which gave him the moniker "The Blue Harvest"
Antman in the movies are the best because he’s just the every day man that wants the best for his family and Paul Rudd is such a great antman. So looking forward to quantummania. First marvel movie I’m excited about since end game.
Really takes me back seeing the established titles sponsorship
Giving a Like simply for the Dr. Worm reference. One of my favorite TMBG songs from my childhood. 💯
chefs kiss for the Mr Worm reference. that music video is so absurd and terrific.
I would gladly have this episode at Least 40 min longer
Can we just acknowledge how good that edit is where cap looks to say “I dunno” then “nah” without cutting
Bucky’s always been my favorite pick for legacy Cap.
I like Bucky because he’s allowed to do wet works and get his hands dirty unlike Steve who has to be squeaky clean or people will riot.
@@li-limandragon9287 Yeah I always thought it was cool to have someone from such a dark background try and be that heroic symbol. Creates an interesting inner conflict.
You have to hand it to Anthony Mackie. When Falcon first came on the scene in WInter Soldier he was met with some ridicule. What could a regular guy with wings do? With each progressive appearance Anthony has made the character more interesting both in personality and the way he can use the wings. They became the most amazing accessory. Forget War Machine. I'd take Captain Falcon any old day of the week. I kinda hope he turns up in Armor Wars actually now that it's going to be a movie. For serious though, let's get as many heroes as we can in there and have them all fighting advanced armours and have different armours that have been tweaked in ways they can take on specific heroes. While I like Iron Man Three a lot there's real missed opportunity there with the armour because even though they look different they all do basically the same thing so as long as you can block a repulsor blast you're golden. Create them with specific countermeasures for each hero. I don't know what that would be but I already came up with the idea. I shouldn't have to do everything.
Gotta say, a little disappointed to see a lack of Beta Ray Bill in the legacy Thors section. Otherwise pretty good list though.
Honestly I wanna see more Ben Reily's Scarlett Spider
That Dr. Worm mention really was a treat. I had a few of those amalgam comics when I was a kid, and loved the idea. Weird alternate realities are usually pretty fun in comics. The spiderman superboy mashup, and Dr. Strangefate were my favorites from that
Great video as usual. BTW, the sound of the helmet dropping scared the living shit out of me. Way to lure someone in with a nice, soft ad read and then BAM, beat them to death with loud and scary noises.
0:17 I love it 😂 he’s out there somewhere on something like that, just a stark USB in Happy’s drawer 😂
Nando v. Movies had a great pitch for how to bring Eric O'Grady into the MCU
The Infamous Iron Man was a great run. Wish it kept going
Established Titles is a scam btw
I personally am a big fan of all the Venom legacy characters, with Agent Anti-Venom being a favourite
A normal regular kingdom
*cuts to a kingdom advanced far beyond ones imagination*
They Might Be Giants reference is an instant like. I mean I would have liked the video anyway because I'm subscribed to your channel and like your content, but it *did* make me click the like button slightly sooner than I would have.
Just quickly, you are not a lord if you buy that land in Scotland. that's like buying a brick and trying to claim you own a mansion. It's all make believe.
I had a JK Simmons/JJ Jameson laugh from the thumbnail. Good stuff
Ben, you are amazing!
MrSundayMovies a few years ago: "A random commenter will get a free LOOTCRATE!"
MrSundayMovies now: "A random commenter will be MUTED!"
Great video
There are 2 ways to get Tony Stark back w/o raising the dead:
1) AI backup, maybe using his voice... or likeness depending on how interested he is in it. Ironheart used this in the comics; it's fine.
2) Time Travel. Frankly, I want to see the adaptation of the Dr. Doom/Ironman story where Doom takes them back to the middle ages by accident. Per Avengers Endgame and Loki, this makes a duplicate of Ironman, and per Loki... maybe his reality is snipped. So after "Iron Man 4: The one with Dr. Doom in it," maybe he can come back to present day and surprise everyone? I mean, it'd be unnecessary; but a time travel epic with a good Dr. Doom and Iron Man would be awesome. (Dr. Strange 3 could also feature Doom, going to hell to save his mother's soul. Classic.)
How could you guys forget the best Iron Man, Infamous Iron Man ?
Eric Masterson was a part of some really, really great Thor storylines after Walt Simonson left. The Black Galaxy Saga was so good, and they borrowed some of that for different MCU movies.
I'd argue the best legacy Thor character is Beta Ray Bill, but whatever.
He's definitely the coolest.
Talking about Thors and not a single mention of Beta Ray Bill? What is this, the MCU? He picked up Mjolnir back when it still was mostly a fresh concept.
10:46 He was in the Infinity Gauntlet. I'm not even trying to be funny here, it's true. Thor got cursed by Loki or something and needed someone to wield the hammer to basically even be in the Earth. That's was the reason behind Eric Masterson and that's why he was there when Thanos was doing his thing.
Because while Thor-adjacent, he never became "Thor"
The same reason they they don't consider Riri because she never uses the mantle "Iron Man".
I also wanted to say that Eric Masterson was in the Infinity Gauntlet. It's actually the only Eric Masterson Thor story I've read.
BRB is in Thor ragnorok
Justice for Beta Ray Bill
Didn't even get a mention. Tragic oversight.
A Dr. worm reference??? Holy shit that got stuck in my head ages ago and has just silently existed in my brain for over 2 decades. thanks for the freight train of Nostalgia!
This feels like a fever dream of a universe where Ms.Marvel didn't exist until kamala
@@OldManYellsAtClouds Carol Danvers…
@@GyrosLeftSteelBall I believe (hope) he was playing into the joke
But you never know
I don't think there was any joke intended, though I can see the confusion because of the ambiguity of language.
Saying "Kamala was always Ms. Marvel" isn't the same as saying "Ms. Marvel was always Kamala". It's just saying Kamala has never taken on any other character's mantle.
@@mahna_mahna I think you may be getting confused (because the person deleted their comments, so not your fault)
But someone commented "who was Ms.marvel before her?"
@@TheOriginalDx1 Yeah, that did make it a bit confusing. But I was also referring to your original post.
Just want to add my 2 cents that the best legacy Captain Marvel is the third one, Genis Vell, the son of the original Captain Marvel
I truly westworld this video
(Please bring it back I feel like I’ve lost a piece of myself)
Little James would be a fantastic replacement for Groot.
Hilarious to be watching this video for the first time on July 30th of 2024... mere days after we learned RDJ *is* returning to the MCU, and just how much that cost!!
Oh I'm so ready to be mad at this episode and spend 15mins laughing 😂
Did they just forget that Carol has been Ms. Marvel for decades before she was Captain Marvel? So Kamala would be a legacy character
Who is doing the Editing xuz I love the Ancient Kingdom picture thrown in
You guys better be getting ready to review the santa clauses. It's the greatest thing since sliced bread on disney +
They did caravan of garbage on those last year.
@@tiberiushazo6326 No you don't understand. They made a sequel TV series that is on disney now called the santa clauses with the same cast from the 90s. Only came out two weeks ago
"What an awful character" cuts to Karli Morganthau, perfect 😂😂😂
Yes, how awful someone fight against genocide...
Was a prepared for a They Might Be Giants reference? No.
Did I love it? Absolutely.
The best legacy character is Nick Mason, son of former Disney CEO Bob Iger.
Nick Mason, son of Pink Floyd drummer Nick Mason
And the worst is his brother Nick Mason but he is blonde
Wow, a video that's actually on Sunday in America? I guess Old Man James remembered this week. And before I forget, James is old.
Fun fact: it’s Sunday in most of the world right now. The world doesn’t revolve round murica. This is uploaded at peak time for Eurasia, which is where most humans live.
@@burna1057 fun fact: nobody asked, and I ain't murican either. Thanks for assuming
@@burna1057 lmao
3:21 Keep shredding, sk8r boi.
*Also, I do remember liking Amadeus Cho and living-in-the-present Red Wolf.* (Did Ian Rogers ever came back?)
Ian will be appearing in Sam's Captain America book in the near future!
Cho is a really fun character. Completely different tone from any other male Hulk.
Intro hits different after the recent RDJ Dr Doom announcement
I would like to hear you do this for DC because I can never tell all the Robins apart 😅
Right? Don’t you wish they gave them different hair colours at least. They have distinct costumes, but those are always changing
That dr worm reference scared me it made me feel isle I was dreaming for a minute
“I’ll block ya!” *enter Elon Musk scene*
*chefs kiss to editing*
Nearly spat my lunch out after hearing Eddleston - I got married there!
Laurence put a One Piece reference in the ad. Thought we wouldn't notice, but we did.
Might wanna edit out the ad read 😭
You guys should make a video ranking phase 4 projects :D movies and TV
@@nicegrammrsundaymoviesoff wait I won something :o what do I do!
@@javierareas7774 it’s a fake scam bot. Ignore it
You all would probably enjoy the new, well a couple months old now but still from this year, Ant Man four part mini about the multiple Ant Men teaming up and Eric O’Grady gets a nice little return. Al Ewing wrote a fun romp through time starting in the golden age and working up towards the future.
And the best Captain Marvel was obviously not Carol. Monica Rambeux FTW
@@rammisalami
Monica Rambeaux is awesome, but is she a legacy character? There's a certain randomness about the names they give her over the years, and her story isn't really connected to the original Mar-Vell character. Danvers is directly connected from and descended from the original.
(I'm not talking about whether Rambeaux or Danvers is a "better" character, just whether Rambeaux it technically legacy. She's her own thing.)
@@eastvandb She did take the mantle for a time and went on to lead the Avengers as such so if not legacy character then idk what that is. Monica evolved into something much bigger and people seem to ignore her time as Captain Marvel because she doesn’t have the same powers or like you said isn’t a descendant but that isn’t essential. Legacy doesn’t have to be related to the character directly like a Kate Bishop or Ben Reilly. GL corp is almost all completely unrelated with lots of legacy heroes. Then there is the Flash family which is almost all connected family wise with many legacy heroes. It’s confusing but they don’t even have to necessarily hold the mantle long either if you start getting into sidekicks like Nightwing. Whereas Damian is directly related and takes up the mantle in future storylines but I don’t think I would call him a legacy character yet. Or Jaime as Blue Beetle is a better comparison with him not being related to Dan or Ted, his scarab is also being used differently yet he is considered a legacy character. Sorry for the bloat.
@@rammisalami
You make a convincing argument. I really like both characters, so I have no beef with someone who prefers one over the other.
@@eastvandb it’s all good I love these type of conversations lol takes me to the comic shop without having to get up!
OMG I was drivern from Comics by the Spiderman Clone Saga too, but ironically I was dragged back in by Watching LGX and deciding to go read the original comic...
4:37 ONE PIECE REFERENCE ty editor
I’ve been desperately searching through the comments to see who else saw it😭
Superior Spider-Man is the best version of Spider-Man because he proves that Peter can have a life, be successful, and be happy! I love the Doc as Spidey and they end his happiness the way they ended Peter’s. Mephisto.