Game of Thrones Symbolism: The Lannisters

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    * Martin, George R.R. "A Song of Ice and Fire." Bantam Books.
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    * Harris, Elena. "Lion Spirit Animal." Spirit Animal.
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    * Parisien, Erin. "Game Of Thrones: 15 Things You Need To Know About House Lannister." ScreenRant, 27 June 2016.
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  • @kebdin
    @kebdin 7 років тому +2745

    "The dwarf, the cripple, and the mother of madness."

    • @gobindsingh3052
      @gobindsingh3052 5 років тому +15

      Soviet Scooty omfg I came down to the comments and read this at the exactly the same time as he was saying it

    • @donalddeluxe6407
      @donalddeluxe6407 4 роки тому +18

      THAT LINE NEVER GETS OLD!!!!

  • @rayoliver3387
    @rayoliver3387 6 років тому +3504

    Tyrion = Tywin’s mind
    Jaime = Tywin’s body
    Cersei = Tywin’s soul

    • @madunicorn4568
      @madunicorn4568 6 років тому +53

      Reoribuh Kahili nicely said

    • @Elijah-nf3ch
      @Elijah-nf3ch 5 років тому +468

      That means Tywin's mind betrayed his body then fucked his soul.

    • @collindanielson9176
      @collindanielson9176 5 років тому +19

      Tywin wasnt a warrior tho

    • @kaliyuga1476
      @kaliyuga1476 5 років тому +146

      @@collindanielson9176 Yes he was, in the war of the nine peckines and against house tarweck

    • @alexthorsman3186
      @alexthorsman3186 5 років тому +130

      @@Elijah-nf3ch Actually, you've got that wrong. Tywin's body fucked his soul and his soul betrayed his mind.

  • @bhanukawijeyaratne6243
    @bhanukawijeyaratne6243 7 років тому +3343

    There is no denying it, Tywin Lannister is the greatest player of the game of thrones with the perfect combination of both honor and cruelty that conversation with Aarya in season 3 proved it.

    • @Zenene-ok5el
      @Zenene-ok5el 7 років тому +302

      Compared to Littlefinger or the Spider, though... Tywin failed to recognize Daenerys as a growing threat. He gave Baelish more power than he should ever have when he made him Lord of Harrenhal and sent him to court Lysa Arryn, and he never got a glimpse of Varys's true plan (restoring the Targaryen dynasty by causing the Lannisters' fall). If he had been such a great player, he would've realized that, even if his cruelty was very useful against his enemies, his modus operandi was building an unhealthy dependence in his own family, a family which would surely crumble with his absence.

    • @Zenene-ok5el
      @Zenene-ok5el 7 років тому +189

      Also, his demeanor with his progenies ensured that not one of his own children would be able to rule House Lannister in his name: Jamie became both afraid and unfit for ruling, Cersei became a power-hungry bitch with an inferiority complex and Tyrion never got the respect he should have despite being a good ruler.

    • @JLchevz
      @JLchevz 7 років тому +11

      was

    • @TheNinetySecond
      @TheNinetySecond 7 років тому +93

      Completely agree with Zenene here. Tywinn was a magnificent player, and a perfect combination of military and political prowess, but he isn't a full package.
      I'd say he embodies the futility of puritanism. His work with family, politics and war, was all rooted in his self imposed dogma, that ended up blinding him in the face of all the threats and scandals mentioned above, and ultimately led to his downfall.
      It's also pretty important to note that his whole character was a self made one, based on his hatred towards his own father. There never was a tried-and-tested "Lannister nationalism" (understood here as a chauvanistic pride in his family and in - at the very least - Casterly Rock). It was all something that he made up, and built up as a natural truth, but which ended up kicking a lot of problems down the road (nothing but power-by-proximity, severely damaged kids, no loyalty based alliances, damaging infamy), and being far too rigid in the face political turmoil (which isn't that uncommon in Westeros - he basically kickstarted their powertrip 30 years prior to the series *in the midst of political turmoil.)*
      Actually, now that I think about it, Tywin is a pretty great allegory for fascism:
      Set up a brand new and untested counter-ideology to whatever came before, put a *BIG STRONG MAN* in charge, turn up your ambitions to make-or-break level, and keep moving forward with no regards to long term consequences. It's a crude simplification, but that's more or less what Tywin was doing, right up until one of those damaged kids ( /disenfranchised political associate) came back and revenge-murdered him on the shitter.
      The more I think about this, the more I'm convinced Tywin was actually really fucking bad at the Game of Thrones. In the end, he was just really good at projecting power, wealth and control, and was doing pretty well in his borrowed time.

    • @Nicholas-cf5zu
      @Nicholas-cf5zu 7 років тому +7

      A great read that pushes back against the notion that Tywin was all ruthless pragmatism -- this was just a mask to hide a vengeful, petty spirit (not just towards Tyrion, but others as well, such as the Martells):
      warsandpoliticsoficeandfire.wordpress.com/2014/09/04/the-lions-fury-tywin-lannister-and-the-psychology-of-brutality/

  • @Stephensofceea
    @Stephensofceea 6 років тому +777

    The only person who doesn't confirm with the Lannister traits is not Tyrion, it's Tommen. Tyrion is a true blue Lannister.

  • @sanjaymenon5070
    @sanjaymenon5070 7 років тому +1345

    I disagree with the idea that Tyrion is the most un-Lannister-like member of the house. Maybe appearance-wise, but his intelligence, ruthlessness and resourcefulness point directly to his father Tywin. The show may project him as a wronged good guy, which he is, but it doesn't delve into the dark thoughts that fill his minds regarding those he sees as his enemies, mostly Tywin and Cersei - something which is repeatedly driven home to the reader in the books. Had he not been born a dwarf he probably would've continued as Tywin's heir not only in name, but also in spirit.

    • @url4345
      @url4345 5 років тому +62

      Also atleast in the books, he has a strong desire to be like his father and make him proud, so he is really shaped by wanting to emulate and impress Tywin as well

    • @houstonburnside8985
      @houstonburnside8985 5 років тому +14

      Tomen breaks the mold

    • @reginaphalange9417
      @reginaphalange9417 5 років тому +21

      @@url4345 even in the show. After Tywin named him king's hand and called him "his son" (which was another manipulation because he needed him in King's Landing while he was at war against Robb) I think Tyrion really believed he had another chance to please her father, so he did everything he could to protect his family. But then in season 3, despite his major role in the victory, he was dismissed and confined in a small room. He still tried to convince Tywin to make him his legitimate heir (since Jaime was not able to be, being a member of the King's guard) but Tywin once again revealed his true feelings and humiliated him, proving that he lied to him in season 1 just to convince him to do the dirty work. This is when Tyrion definitely abandoned any hope to be a real Lannister.

    • @retroraptressmcdeborahjane806
      @retroraptressmcdeborahjane806 5 років тому

      Sanjay menon but he’s not selfish

    • @jocelynthom2904
      @jocelynthom2904 4 роки тому +27

      You know at one point in the books, Tywin's sister Genna Lannister claimed to him that out of his three offspring, Tyrion resembles him the most by intelligence, resourcefulness, spirit, and ruthlessness. Tywin was so mad about that claim that he refused to speak to his sister for what she said.

  • @marleywalker3284
    @marleywalker3284 7 років тому +3169

    I've noticed that in the show the less "lannister-like" the lannisters become their hair becomes darker like Jaime and Tyrion where as Cersei's has stayed the same due to her not losing her lannister character traits, what do you guys think?

    • @hanana7167
      @hanana7167 7 років тому +205

      Malaysian_ Asian interesting theory!

    • @marleywalker3284
      @marleywalker3284 7 років тому +38

      Hannah Banana Thank you I appreciate it :)

    • @SkipperPlaysTW
      @SkipperPlaysTW 7 років тому +144

      Malaysian_ Asian Interesting theory, but I believe Tyrion is the most Lannister like of all Tywin's children.

    • @GalaktischerHirnsauger
      @GalaktischerHirnsauger 7 років тому +41

      SkipperPlaysTW he is the least lannister like

    • @KaylaSwEet06
      @KaylaSwEet06 7 років тому +281

      Bullshit, Tyrion is a strategic genius like his father. Tyrion is more like Tywin than any other of his children.

  • @mythloverb5931
    @mythloverb5931 6 років тому +131

    "A Lannister always pays his--"
    "Don't say it. Don't fooking say it."
    This is why Bronn is one of the best characters.

  • @NNNNNOo
    @NNNNNOo 6 років тому +201

    They're the most interesting family/characters. You're never bored when one of them is on screen, especially if it's Cersei and Tyrion together.

    • @apieceoflife2732
      @apieceoflife2732 3 роки тому

      No.They were hot headed,over ambitious and very short sighted.All the decisions Tywin took served him till he was alive.He died,his legacy died.

    • @kp361
      @kp361 Рік тому +1

      @@apieceoflife2732 They were the most interesting characters. And I think you mean 'till he was dead'.

  • @faz108
    @faz108 7 років тому +457

    They're also descended from Lann the Clever, who tricked the Casterlys out of the Rock. They're descended from a clever manipulator as the Starks are descended from a respected builder who built both objects and loyalty and as the Baratheons are descended from a great warrior who won their house through military prowess.
    I guess what I'm saying is, George is clever as fuck.

    • @vardiganxpl1698
      @vardiganxpl1698 4 місяці тому +1

      That is honestly a very good insight, it shows how the deeper nature of these families, the rest of westeros write of the starks arla these barbarian rulers, then later as honorable fools with the popularity of Ned of recent history, yet in their nature, they were always dedicated, and build and grow their people, They are builders. Whole the Lannisters of Tywin want to create a dynasty, trying to give the image that his house are a noble and respectable house that are to be feared. yet they always scheme, lie, manipulate, and plot. They are far from being noble lions, and more like cunning tricksters

  • @shilohelgin2408
    @shilohelgin2408 7 років тому +525

    The problem with Tommen was he was in spite of being kind but he was also weak and prone to inaction

    • @smitex8774
      @smitex8774 6 років тому +20

      Shiloh Elgin better then Joffrey

    • @MP15aug
      @MP15aug 6 років тому +76

      he was simply young. In time he could have come into his own.

    • @lobokujo7825
      @lobokujo7825 5 років тому +21

      Tommem was like his great grandfather, Tytos.

    • @josephwright4222
      @josephwright4222 4 роки тому +16

      he was like 9 (?) when he became king? How many 9 year olds do you know could rule a nation as a monarch? You can't judge what sort of king he'd be before he even reached puberty

    • @Sawrattan
      @Sawrattan 4 роки тому +3

      @@josephwright4222 Tommen and Joffrey are like opposite extremes of England's King Edward VI. Like Tommen, he was young, physically weak and overrun with religious extremists, but he helped to encourage the extremists with a callousness and spitefulness (see how he treated his big sister Mary) closer to Joffrey.

  • @yajatunde77
    @yajatunde77 5 років тому +201

    The best actors of the entire game of thrones. Period

  • @SkipperPlaysTW
    @SkipperPlaysTW 7 років тому +776

    "The character who doesn't fit the personality of the house is Tyrion." You couldn't be more wrong here. Tyrion is more Tywin than Jaime, Cersei, Kevan, Gerion, Tygett, Genna, Joffrey, Myrcella and Tomment combined.

    • @khairula9936
      @khairula9936 6 років тому +86

      SkipperPlaysTW No, this video is correct. Yes Tyrion is the most Tywin-like thanks to his wits and intelligence, but that is not Lannister family defining characteristic. Remember Tywin father was a weak and clueless man? Their family true symbolic personality is selfishness, to put their own need above everything else. Tywin, Cersei, Jaime (before he lost his hand), Joffrey and almost every other Lannisters all have this. Tyrion is not, he able to sympathize with the weak and the unfortunates which probably because he himself has been oppressed and insulted within his own family since he was a child, thus Tyrion built his own set of moral values.

    • @SkipperPlaysTW
      @SkipperPlaysTW 6 років тому +29

      Can't agree with you there. Cersei (especially in the books) can be summed up by her desire to protect her children. She has a selfless devotion to them. Jaime I needn't comment on. He's arguably the most selfless person in the show and books (but hides it). The only one you could argue is truly selfish is Tywin - but even he has an undying loyalty to his house over himself.
      Tyrion seems very Lannister (until Season 5 where everything about his character is thrown away and he is made into a black and white protagonist).
      Varys: "Ned Stark was an honorable man."
      Tyrion: "And I am not. Threaten me again and i'll have you thrown into the sea."

    • @khairula9936
      @khairula9936 6 років тому +8

      You seem a bit confused on what selfishness means. When one is willing to sacrifice their own life to fight a much more powerful enemy to protect their idea/family yeah that is a selfless (and one hell of a badass) devotion, but when you're a person in power such as Queen Cersei who willing to slaughter families, burn thousand of mostly innocent people to 'protect' your own that is not devotion, that is selfishness. A really huge selfishness. Most dictators in this world has true love for their family and yet we don't call that a selfless devotion.
      As matter of fact she is the most selfish among the Lannisters, as she care only of her own kids, and to certain extent his brother/lover Jaime. She even blame Tommen after he died, saying "he abandon us" when confronted by Jamie, remember? At least Tywin cs. do what they do for the whole Lannister clans and never betray that one value they hold.
      Jamie, yes he has become much better, and now one of the most likable, but that after a whole life-changing experiences during the story. So the video is correct when saying that Tyrion is the only one that doesn't fit the Lannister characteristic, he has been such a sympathetic person ever since the story start.

    • @SkipperPlaysTW
      @SkipperPlaysTW 6 років тому +7

      I think this is subjective. You could, rightly, argue that because the cost of protecting her children, Cersei is selfish. But you could also, rightly, argue that the initial concept of protecting her children is selfless.
      I guess it depends which lens you apply.

    • @FanGirlMania
      @FanGirlMania 6 років тому +1

      Tommen is not Lannister like at all

  • @PriusRaj
    @PriusRaj 4 роки тому +385

    Of all three children, Jaime is the one who is least a Lannister.
    He literally refused to do his duty to have heirs and chose to join the Kingsguard out of loyalty and love to Cersei, not to his house. His sense of honor made him kill Aerys despite how awkward that made him and House Lannister look. He armed Brienne and told her to rescue Sansa when it would have been better for House Lannister to have her captured.
    Jaime Lannister was loyal to his morals and to those he loved (Tyrion, Brienne and Cersei). That was all. Fuck glory, gold, and reputation.
    Ironically, if it wasn't for his incest, facade and blatant dishonesty about himself he'd probably be closer to being a Stark than a Lannister.

    • @apieceoflife2732
      @apieceoflife2732 3 роки тому +19

      What Jaime had was trauma,not the "love" towards Cersei.

    • @oscarbautista4156
      @oscarbautista4156 2 роки тому +18

      Jaime did not choose to join the kingsguard off his own wish... Aerys apointed him to piss off tywin... Jaime only accepted because cercei convinced him so they could be close at KL... and let's not forget the little detail of getting shorted a head if he didn't accept..

  • @Thoralmir
    @Thoralmir 5 років тому +147

    The Lion is actually a wholly fitting symbol for the Lannisters, when you know the true nature of lions. They're vicious, brutal animals, stealing kills from smaller predators, killing smaller predators to eliminate competition, striking in the night, males even slaughtering existing cubs when they take over a pride in order to bring the females into estrus. Males will drive off their own sons once they become sexually active, not unlike Tywin's contempt for Tyrion's whoremongering. Lions use overwhelming violence and fear to stay on top, like how Tywin uses the Mountain's savage cruelty and violence to eliminate enemies.
    Lions will often go out of their way to eliminate the young of hyenas and other predators, like how the Lannisters go after King Robert's bastard kids and the Stark children.

    • @anti-mate407
      @anti-mate407 2 роки тому +9

      another interesting comparison is that many across the whole world believe Lions are the king of the jungle when in truth there are far more animals and animal packs that can outperform lions at both strength and effenciency, similarly to how tywin is seen as the most untouchable man with the strongest convictions and brutality when in truth he couldn't even overcome a petty hate for his own child who wasn't even responsible nor deserving of that hate

    • @AFanOfCinema
      @AFanOfCinema 5 місяців тому

      And here's a fun fact: lions are also known to have sex with their own family members, like Jamie and Cersei

  • @phyllisfeng9794
    @phyllisfeng9794 6 років тому +344

    I miss Tommen. He was a sweet, gullible kid who deserved better.

    • @Sawrattan
      @Sawrattan 4 роки тому +21

      Unfortunately in the history books, sweet gullible kings rarely end up well. Or they are easily manipulated to become monsters themselves.

    • @Waineruny09
      @Waineruny09 3 роки тому +1

      Ikr, I hate how Cersei manipulated him

    • @Ella.46667
      @Ella.46667 2 роки тому +3

      Sometimes I'm tommen in this world . Need to be more hard , less compassionate. I grew up with single mum . I have good heart , people take advantage

    • @mattk3654
      @mattk3654 Рік тому

      At least he got to bang Margorie Tyrell few times before the church imprisoned her. That's definitely a highlight of his short life and shorter reign.

    • @garlantyrell6368
      @garlantyrell6368 Рік тому

      If anyone were to manipulate him it would be Margaery because unlike Cersei or the High Sparrow at least she would’ve been good counsel for Tommen in ruling. This was more discovered in the books but Margaery told the boy to attend more small council meetings and court sessions along with getting her brother Loras to train Tommen with a sword and know how to fight. She’s also trying to give him more of a backbone to stand up to Cersei so they can both be rid of her. Maybe all manipulative but those were things Tommen should’ve been doing as king in the first place right?

  • @1805movie
    @1805movie 7 років тому +846

    The lion is the Lannister sigil, and lions often perform incest.

    • @deacondank6249
      @deacondank6249 6 років тому +297

      (fact) female wolves don't allow incest. praise the starks

    • @mmmk6793
      @mmmk6793 6 років тому +22

      hhHh bruh..

    • @spardahellkin5814
      @spardahellkin5814 6 років тому +105

      Well if dragons were real they must have been crazy addicted to it then

    • @glanni
      @glanni 6 років тому +5

      Deacon Dank that's a really interestring fact!

    • @meghnasaha4349
      @meghnasaha4349 6 років тому +28

      But we don't know of any other Lannisters doing it. It's the Targaryens that are known for marrying off brothers and sisters (of course there are exceptions)

  • @simaopereira3697
    @simaopereira3697 7 років тому +956

    6:54 That´s actualy not true (at least in the books). Out of the 3 Lanistes siblings Tyrion is the most similar to his father. Jamie doesn´t want power and Cersi is to stupid to rule, but Tyrion and Tywin embody pragmatism and machiavellianism.
    This is Tyrion´s quote from the books when Tywin says that he is not his son: "Now that’s where you’re wrong, Father. Why, I believe I'm you writ small". And this what aunt Gena said to Jaime: "Tyrion is Tywin's son, not you. I said so once to your father's face, and he would not speak to me for half a year"
    The similarities betwen Tywin and Tyrion are represented with the aliteration on they´re names: TYwin, TYrion, TYrants.

    • @lookmethecat
      @lookmethecat 7 років тому +142

      Jaime is probably the least "Lannister" of all the Lannisters.
      Like you said yourself, Tyrion is perceived to be the most like his father without trying. Cercei seeks to model herself off of Tywin and fails mostly due to the fact she is a woman.
      Jaime doesn't scheme or attempt to gain power, he actually refuses it in favour of being with a woman he "loves". He doesn't really care for the family name or how people perceive him (this is a lie of course, he is very sensitive when it comes to being called a Kingslayer).
      Jaime ends up being one of the few decent Lannisters.

    • @marjorie.mp4
      @marjorie.mp4 7 років тому +74

      green tunic of destiny I wish I could like both of these comments more than once. All the animosity between Tyrion and Tywin stems from them being so similar. And Jaime is so different from the two of them. Tywin always wanted Jaime to take over after him, but Jaime would rather be a knight than a ruler. And both Tyrion and Cersei wish they had Jaime's body in order to be taken seriously and become influential the way Lannisters, according to Tywin, are meant to be.

    • @thetake
      @thetake  7 років тому +99

      Very interesting reading! Thanks for sharing your knowledge of the books. This suggests that Tywin's hatred of Tyrion is partly based in rejecting parts of himself that he doesn't want to acknowledge.

    • @Ari33sa
      @Ari33sa 7 років тому +95

      I always thought Jaime was really what held the family together for so long. Probably since their mothers death, he is the only thing keeping them together. He's the only one all three of them like - and he's also the only one trying and giving his best to be liked by them. Not always, especially when he comes back one handed, their are some lines he draws, (like saying no to his father), but he's still trying to if possible please them all enough, that they could go back to being a disfunctional family, rater than the clusterfuck they are. It's no wonder everything falls apart, as soon as he's captured and away for them for longer than a year.

    • @marjorie.mp4
      @marjorie.mp4 7 років тому +34

      Ari33sa oh wow, I think you're dead on. Especially with the timing of their unravelling. I've never looked at it that way before!

  • @strategicgamingwithaacorns2874
    @strategicgamingwithaacorns2874 6 років тому +53

    _"And who are you," the proud Lord said,_
    _"that I must bow so low?_
    _Only a cat of a different coat,_
    _that's all the truth I know!_
    _Be a coat of gold or a coat of red,_
    _a lion still has claws,_
    _and mine are long and sharp my lord,_
    _as long and sharp as yours."_
    _And so he spoke, and so he spoke,_
    _that Lord of Castamere._
    _But now the rains weep o'er his halls,_
    _and no-one there to hear._
    _Yes now the rains weep o'er his halls,_
    _and not a soul to hear._

  • @webx135
    @webx135 7 років тому +72

    I feel like Tyrion is undoubtedly Tywin's son and very much a Lannister. You don't have to be Cersei-like to be a Lannister. Even Tywin's worst atrocities saved thousands of lives.

    • @legrandliseurtri7495
      @legrandliseurtri7495 4 роки тому +4

      Burning the Tully's land after fedding his army with them is saving thousands of life?

    • @leostormdryke9036
      @leostormdryke9036 4 роки тому +5

      Tywin brought prosperity as hand to aerys and kept tha king in check and the westerlands were always propering so tywin was a great ruler and many lannisters (cersei was ruthless and smart but not that smart) as well

    • @apieceoflife2732
      @apieceoflife2732 3 роки тому +2

      Lol No.Tywin was a monster in nice clothes

  • @ricepaddymaddie
    @ricepaddymaddie 7 років тому +523

    Just as the Stark's symbolism video, this was also very well done!

  • @ivo28182
    @ivo28182 5 років тому +56

    "Hear me roar" also implies flashiness and a need for recognition/admiration, I think

  • @ridzkyasdi2510
    @ridzkyasdi2510 6 років тому +307

    you seemed bias against the Lannister, when jaime and tyrion showed something good, you describe it as 'un-Lannister like'. In my opinion though, they're the most interesting house in all seven kingdom

    • @kiamaria331
      @kiamaria331 5 років тому +27

      Because it kind of is. If Tyrion had not been born with dwarfism, he would be the stereotypical Lannister that everyone hates. And every good act that Jaime does has been driven by his proximity to and influence by Brienne. Just as Cersei had been the driving force in creating the Jaime we were presented with at the beginning of the series.

    • @Iamnotabug
      @Iamnotabug 5 років тому +10

      Interesting =/= good.

    • @dennisvillaflor3359
      @dennisvillaflor3359 5 років тому +11

      Kia Maria jaime isnt selfish nor narcissistic. If he was, he would be going for the throne like his father wanted to. Instead he served the army. He was the only one that treats tyrion with respect. He did what he did because he sincerely loves cersei. Jaime is very far from being selfish.

    • @reginaphalange9417
      @reginaphalange9417 5 років тому +2

      @@dennisvillaflor3359 but he would do anything for her, no matter the cost for the others (like he told Edmure in season 6)

    • @apieceoflife2732
      @apieceoflife2732 3 роки тому

      Well it's because they are evil,who deserve to be punished for the horrifying things they did.And They had to pay the price.

  • @wesleywittekiend423
    @wesleywittekiend423 7 років тому +206

    Really appreciate the high quality Game of Thrones content y'all have been putting out lately. Keep up the good work.

  • @jemelleal172
    @jemelleal172 7 років тому +141

    I know a House Targaryen analysis is bound to come, but will you do an analysis for Houses Tyrell and Baratheon? I feel there's so much interesting symbolism to be found in their sigils and characters, like how a rose and its hidden thorns can compare to Margaery and Olenna; and how deer fight amongst each other like the contending branches of House Baratheon

  • @Beforethecredits
    @Beforethecredits 7 років тому +318

    I like that you all decided to do a GoT lead up.

    • @davidmsirois
      @davidmsirois 7 років тому +3

      Voldemort. Voldemort. Oooo, voldy, voldy, voldy, Voldemort!

    • @maggyfoster8699
      @maggyfoster8699 6 років тому

      Harry Potter killed you so yeah take that

  • @williamthefloridano
    @williamthefloridano 7 років тому +372

    A kind king does not make him a good king. Tommen would have never been a good king.

    • @Raducu2oo5
      @Raducu2oo5 6 років тому +81

      i mean...Margery would have been king lol

    • @glanni
      @glanni 6 років тому +20

      Brett William Vinopal he had no idea what it took to be king. Thus he was controlled by anyone. He was not as bad as pathetic joffrey though (duh)

    • @ironmantis25
      @ironmantis25 6 років тому +37

      He would, he's just way too young to be given any governing responsibility.

    • @eny1103
      @eny1103 6 років тому +12

      No he would have not because he feared the faith and had no spine and let all the mess happened out of fear.

    • @BlueberryMom
      @BlueberryMom 5 років тому +43

      If Tywin had lived, he would have made Tommen into a good king.

  • @SophiaStarla
    @SophiaStarla 5 років тому +111

    To be fair, the Lannisters WERE kings before the Targaryens showed up

    • @leostormdryke9036
      @leostormdryke9036 4 роки тому +13

      Yes the kings of the rock

    • @gfilmer7150
      @gfilmer7150 3 роки тому +5

      The Kingdom of The Rock. The richest of all of the kingdoms. They only bent because Orys Baratheon held a blade to Loren Lannister’s throat while he was on his knees in front of Aegon The Conqueror.

  • @the.saunter.experiment
    @the.saunter.experiment 7 років тому +331

    i hope you guys do videoes on symbolism of house targaryen and house tyrell as well

    • @contraGP
      @contraGP 7 років тому +17

      Yes! I'm hoping they do a video for all the main houses.

    • @jthemming2419
      @jthemming2419 7 років тому +5

      Tyrell Please!

    • @dominicwolfgangwallace2331
      @dominicwolfgangwallace2331 7 років тому +14

      and maybe even some minor ones like Boltons, Mormonts, or even Baelish.

    • @stellaarteois1355
      @stellaarteois1355 7 років тому

      Dominic Wolfgang Wallace bealish is not really a house

    • @thehangedman5114
      @thehangedman5114 7 років тому +2

      xing hai shi bu xing house baelish is a house dude, he was, and I suppose still is, Lord Baelish of a small lordship in the Vale. he even got his name "littlefinger" from his province

  • @Andrea-ul7cm
    @Andrea-ul7cm 6 років тому +20

    Thank you for putting several Joffrey slaps in there.

  • @awaywiththefaeries9464
    @awaywiththefaeries9464 4 роки тому +15

    I disagree with the statement that Tyrion doesn’t fit in with the Lannister’s. Like Tywin and Cersei, he has a desire for power, he often thinks that his status as a dwarf is what holds him back (similar to how Cersei sees her femininity as a disadvantage) , he doesn’t get along with his father and sister, he enjoys revenge, and he seems to require rewards for bravery (Blackwater). In contrast, Jaime doesn’t try to gain power, he gets along with both his siblings, he rarely seeks revenge, and he allows people to call him Kingslayer and Oathbreaker instead of telling people that he saved millions of lives.

  • @annapplegoldfinch6931
    @annapplegoldfinch6931 2 роки тому +10

    You mentioned that House Lannister might be better represented by snakes than lions. However, although lions are better known for their physical strength, they are still cats, and cats are well-known for being crafty, sneaky, and a touch crazy. They are thought of as manipulative and psychotic, but also as wise and loving. All of these traits can be found in the Lannister family.

  • @Feamelwen
    @Feamelwen 6 років тому +19

    I feel that this video, while well-made, oversimplifies the complex characters by reducing them to stereotypes and makes a classic Slytherin-ish case for Tyrion as "THE good Lannister". (I'm referring to any Harry Potter character who is a Slytherin and when fans, instead of accepting that everyone is complex and can have both good and bad in them pigeon-hole every character into some stereotype, generally the one of their Hogwarts' house - hence any character the fans like and argue he/she is not a "real" Slytherin, instead of accepting that Slytherins aren't just the "evil" guys. There's also the classic argument of any "bad" Gryffindor being not a "real" Griffindor but a covert "Slytherin").
    Tyrion is different from Cersei and has more in common with Jamie, but he also exhibits a lot of Lannister characteristics (which are not all super negative cartoonish "bad guy" traits, by the way). He's cunning, actually really susceptible to flattery, especially when it's coming from a woman, and uses his name & wealth to great advantage. He also has a really dark side sometimes, which is more visible in the books in his inner monologue than in the show. He's just as Lannister as anyone else.
    The Lannisters, like most characters of ASoIaF, are complex people. Really, your descriptions only apply to Tywin & Cersei, who are the minority of the Lannisters we meet in the course of the story.

  • @frankbunny5959
    @frankbunny5959 7 років тому +10

    Seriously I watch a lot of Game of Throne videos and these are genuinely superb and a cut above the rest.

  • @NotInformedOfficial
    @NotInformedOfficial 6 років тому +16

    About 2 years ago, my friends and i asked each other what house would we belong in given the chance. I answered Lannister cause i felt very similar and connected to Jamie and Tyrion. This video however, knocks it out the park. Not only do I think Im a Lannister, but also my entire family haha

  • @quickiesilver9307
    @quickiesilver9307 4 роки тому +2

    I never get bored when one of their family members show up in the screen. They always either say or do something interesting which makes the show even more entertaining

  • @the.saunter.experiment
    @the.saunter.experiment 7 років тому +48

    i love you guys' videos on game of thrones! keep them coming

  • @charliehoke1956
    @charliehoke1956 5 років тому +8

    "A Lannister always pays his-"
    "DON'T SAY IT DON'T FOOKIN' SAY IT"

  • @amitmate
    @amitmate 7 років тому +14

    My two favorites are from this house!

  • @Bbowers3428
    @Bbowers3428 6 років тому

    First, I love the in depth analysis of each family. I can tell y'all spent a lot of time and effort to make these as accurate and interesting as they are. Secondly, your voice is extremely comforting with all these deaths and betrayals in GoT. Lastly and most importantly, these videos create a rewatch value to an already amazing and rewatchable show

  • @katharinavonthun9438
    @katharinavonthun9438 7 років тому +8

    I love this channel! You truly show how a love for film and tv is also a love of art! Keep up the wonderful work :)

  • @JamesInYourArea51
    @JamesInYourArea51 7 років тому +4

    Really enjoying this series of analysis, and your channel overall. Thank you for all the work you (and your team) do, and for a wonderful voice--perfect for narration. :)

  • @LyAn215
    @LyAn215 6 років тому +9

    I want to rewatch the whole series but I'm only at season 1 and everytime I saw Ned Stark I cried my eyes out

  • @Missshantel1
    @Missshantel1 7 років тому +4

    This is what Jamie was trying to explain to Cersi in Season 7 Episode 1, that there is no purpose in going to war when they can't leave a legacy. Then she says that she won't do it for legacy but for "us". I think Jamie realizes now that Cersi accepted the fate of her children and now it's about self-preservation.

  • @hahahahat7492
    @hahahahat7492 5 років тому +19

    The Lannisters
    Tywin is merciless
    Jaime is handless
    Cersei is brainless
    Tyrion is noseless
    Joffrey is breathless
    Idk about tommen and myrcella :p

  • @Soutpiel78
    @Soutpiel78 7 років тому +5

    I am blown away by this channel.
    Thank you so much!

  • @NewGuy2534
    @NewGuy2534 7 років тому +20

    Slapping Geoffrey is the best.

  • @colonelsanders1611
    @colonelsanders1611 6 років тому +7

    You can't fully judge a House by what it's most recent generation had done. You have to take the full history of the House into account. Ex: despite Jaime being a kingslayer and Tyrion being a kinslayer, the Lannisters have shown great loyalty by backing the Targaryens through 5 Blackfyre rebellions. This shows that the Lannisters can be fiercely loyal to other people aside from themselves.

  • @brucenatelee
    @brucenatelee 7 років тому +14

    Quote of the day: "You care so much about your outer appearance, you abandoned your inner soul."

  • @lucasmorais7646
    @lucasmorais7646 7 років тому +36

    Very accurate analysis! Can you do a Bolton one eventually?

  • @adonisking728
    @adonisking728 7 років тому +12

    These videos are really well done. keep up the work

  • @hippie9052
    @hippie9052 6 років тому +1

    This is one of those hidden gems UA-cam randomly recommends and I'm glad it did

  • @wlaPHS
    @wlaPHS 7 років тому +33

    I want more Jamie season 1 hair

    • @easybreeze1891
      @easybreeze1891 5 років тому +11

      Angela Willmott he looked like prince charming in shrek

    • @ratticustheemperor
      @ratticustheemperor 3 роки тому

      @@easybreeze1891 yes he did. i forgot his name and was about to say he looked like lord farquaad-

  • @Imgonnawatchthis2
    @Imgonnawatchthis2 7 років тому +3

    thank you for this! really excited for the next season😩

  • @jessicav931
    @jessicav931 6 років тому +2

    How you think the familly would be if the mother would survive to Tyron being born? She sounds kind in the books, the only woman Tywin loves (beside his own mother). She knew about the incest thing and put the dorms of the siblings away and also she was triying to marry her kids to the Dorne House. I think her present would make her house more like the Tyrells, in the meaning of a strong family that support each other.

  • @Daria-sc6mi
    @Daria-sc6mi 5 років тому +29

    Am I the only one who thinks Cersei didn't love her kids as much as everyone says? She loved them as long as she could control and own them Jeoffrey was a spoiled physco that she enabled until she couldn't control him anymore she barely had a relationship with myrcella and she killed the women tommen loved and drove him to suicide bc she wanted to remain the queen and keep her last son as a baby

    • @dennisvillaflor3359
      @dennisvillaflor3359 5 років тому +8

      She loved them but its not the right love. She truly in her own way cared for them. However, she cannot see that she is doing more harm than good. She never tried to control joffrey, which was a mistake and she tried to control tommen, which was a mistake. The problem with cersei is she cannot think ahead and she overestimates her own smartness. She likes to act like Tywin but she is the furthest of the three to Tywin, as tywin always thinks of the consequences of all of his action (except for tyrion). The only thing she got from tywin is his pride.

  • @benmurdock4057
    @benmurdock4057 7 років тому +3

    Great content! Can't wait to see the next one.

  • @DanaosV5
    @DanaosV5 7 років тому +17

    Great content!!!
    Subbed without a second thought!!!
    Winter is here!
    Greetings from Greece :)

  • @nickbotic
    @nickbotic 6 років тому

    I can't believe I haven't found these videos until now! This stuff is fascinating.

  • @the1nonlyani
    @the1nonlyani 7 років тому

    great content and analysis, my new favourite channel!

  • @dashr.4649
    @dashr.4649 5 років тому +10

    U had me til u said Tyrion was different from the other Lannister’s. He’s exactly the same. Him meeting Dany gave him purpose? No being hand to the King gave him purpose which he discovered when he was hand to Joffrey. Jamie also believed in something greater than himself. Honor. Cersei’s love for her children was greater than herself. Unfortunately she lost that.

    • @legrandliseurtri7495
      @legrandliseurtri7495 4 роки тому

      Nah. Cersei was almost as narcissic than her father. She only trully cares about herself.

  • @thisisridiculous337
    @thisisridiculous337 7 років тому +10

    I like how as Jaime lost his hand, and through it his superior swordsmanship, the thing that made him "above others" and connected him to his father and sister, that's what marked the beginning of his seperation from them. The literal change sparking the internal change, and they indicate him moving away from those Lannister traits with things like his interest in Brienne and his changed views of the rest of his family when he returns to King's Landing (Though I am ignoring the scene in the show not in the books where he rapes Cersei)

  • @SuniRedPanda
    @SuniRedPanda 7 років тому

    I was hoping this would be a series, ya'll got a new sub.

  • @hakiriminao8563
    @hakiriminao8563 6 років тому

    Thanks for your videos! its amazing, can"t stop watching!!!

  • @Paarl871
    @Paarl871 4 роки тому +4

    Can you imagine how unstoppable the Lannisters would be if they actually got along?

  • @catherinecao4810
    @catherinecao4810 6 років тому +4

    “The proud Lannister children: the dwarf, the cripple, and the mother of madness.”🍷

  • @iinmediasres4938
    @iinmediasres4938 7 років тому +1

    Keep these coming! Loving the GoT themed videos leading up to the season premiere :)

  • @KnightOfNight3405
    @KnightOfNight3405 7 років тому

    I like the video before finishing it thats how much I love your channel!

  • @chethans3167
    @chethans3167 5 років тому +7

    Lannisters are the most interesting house... At least for me....

  • @valardohaeris333
    @valardohaeris333 5 років тому +3

    Liked, subscribed and downloaded

  • @Bs60182
    @Bs60182 5 років тому

    Love these videos, really well done!

  • @smspl-il5wg
    @smspl-il5wg 7 років тому

    Great Job! I'm looking forward your next videos.

  • @GalaktischerHirnsauger
    @GalaktischerHirnsauger 7 років тому +18

    great video ! Can you do baratheons or tyrells next ?

  • @pastelmermage8883
    @pastelmermage8883 3 роки тому +3

    The Lannister’s remind me of the Medici’s. Known for their vast wealth and pride, and how both would be wielded to temper their enemies. They both also gained power by marrying into nobility. Cersei is also very clearly. Cathrine de Medici

  • @daling430
    @daling430 7 років тому

    I'm really liking this series. thank you.

  • @assadarlingtoni
    @assadarlingtoni 2 роки тому +1

    They are such good character, especially Cersei and Tywin

  • @terrysoriano1996
    @terrysoriano1996 7 років тому +3

    This Video and the Stark Sigil one is outstanding! Patiently waiting for a Targaryen Sigil Explanation ❤️

  • @raze956
    @raze956 4 роки тому +5

    "no animal on earth can rival the lion"
    there are some, and if we include other biomes like jungle etc it will get even worse. no fancy dragons needed.

  • @stevewondering6311
    @stevewondering6311 5 років тому +2

    I feel like when Tywin was reshaping his house he tools some ideas from The riverlands, a little from the vale and a little from the iron born and created something new

  • @lexrev8475
    @lexrev8475 7 років тому

    I LOVE THESE. KEEP EM COMING !!!!

  • @samowen7189
    @samowen7189 6 років тому +14

    Can they do a Clegane one, I know that there’s not much about them but it’d be awesome. For the chickens

  • @LM-et6yt
    @LM-et6yt 7 років тому +14

    (sees this video)
    (silently mouths "yaas kween")

  • @lichking2233
    @lichking2233 7 років тому +1

    Analysis done right, great video!

  • @YoutubeGirlie
    @YoutubeGirlie 6 років тому

    You guys should do a lead up to Season 8, to get us through the long night. Your content is amazing!!

  • @markb7913
    @markb7913 7 років тому +41

    not royalty? they were kings for thousands of years

    • @slugged5109
      @slugged5109 5 років тому +1

      Grayice 666 when?

    • @RayanS93
      @RayanS93 5 років тому +9

      PanCake Theif Before the Targaryen invasion

    • @malenasander7906
      @malenasander7906 5 років тому +1

      The Family that holds the throne is Royalty. The Throne was hold by the Baratheons now after the death of Tommen and Cersei as Queen the Lannisters are Royalty

  • @KingMckay
    @KingMckay 7 років тому +8

    How did you get that font?

  • @alisonmorton9465
    @alisonmorton9465 Рік тому

    I loved Charles Dance. He was great. One of my favorites.

  • @connorhadley9028
    @connorhadley9028 5 років тому

    These are so great!
    I would love if you re made these now that the series has finished 😆

  • @averongodoffire7344
    @averongodoffire7344 5 років тому +7

    The Lannisters wished to be mufasa but ended up being scar

  • @ditach3693
    @ditach3693 6 років тому +8

    Pity you don't take the other Lannisters like Kevan and Lancel into account.

  • @romeblanchard3419
    @romeblanchard3419 7 років тому

    Love this channel, great content!

  • @obedientconsumer5056
    @obedientconsumer5056 4 роки тому

    Hi. Just subscribed to your channel the other day, really enjoying your content. Keep up the good work girls!

  • @ww-zb7qn
    @ww-zb7qn 7 років тому +54

    no animal can top a lion
    I would bet my life a bear would fuck up lion hella bad

    • @ww-zb7qn
      @ww-zb7qn 7 років тому +7

      one on one the lion is getting raped

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 7 років тому +6

      Bears have been known to run away from all types of animals in fights.

    • @ww-zb7qn
      @ww-zb7qn 7 років тому +3

      a tiger would rape a lion and a bear would rape a tiger

    • @ww-zb7qn
      @ww-zb7qn 7 років тому

      well if the tiger did manage to get on the bears back and like sever the spinal cord mybe

    • @alecbernal3824
      @alecbernal3824 7 років тому

      Yes, the jury is in on that topic already. The larger bear species are superior fighters to big cats due to sheer size and the ability to fight bipedally.

  • @007Chakochi
    @007Chakochi 7 років тому +7

    Good video but the dislike towards the characters didn't let me enjoy the true meaning of it.

  • @ciaranspiano
    @ciaranspiano 7 років тому +1

    I really like pretty much all of your videos

  • @ginger6258
    @ginger6258 7 років тому

    Great! Can't wait for the next one!

  • @ar2042
    @ar2042 7 років тому +4

    Tommen could have been a good king at least a kind with one if it weren't for his mother's meddling

  • @noveseth2863
    @noveseth2863 7 років тому +149

    I would proudly fight under the Lannister banner. Or is it just me?

    • @Ari33sa
      @Ari33sa 7 років тому +35

      no me too... bet they pay best.

    • @collinhelm8209
      @collinhelm8209 7 років тому +13

      I will fight for queen Cersi

    • @ZeriocTheTank
      @ZeriocTheTank 7 років тому +38

      Nove Seth Where have you all been? I felt I was the only one under the Lannister banner. It seems like everyone is siding with that dragon bitch or that bastard in the north.

    • @noveseth2863
      @noveseth2863 6 років тому +5

      ZeriocTheTank Fuck yeah house Lannister

    • @royhaile2057
      @royhaile2057 6 років тому +9

      yeah ,fuck the Lannisters , Dany,Jon, and Tyrion Targaryen got this shit , the Dragon will eat the lion alive

  • @Edvinas97
    @Edvinas97 7 років тому +1

    i love these kind of videos, keep it up

  • @deividchg
    @deividchg 6 років тому

    Those videos are awesome! So smart

  • @OceanHedgehog
    @OceanHedgehog 6 років тому +3

    Tommen and Myrcella, not Tyrion, are the atypical Lannisters. Tommen wants to uplift the people, and Myrcella wants to find love. Tyrion is still very much driven by ego and greed, just of a different kind. Tyrion has spent his entire life seeking validation from his family, which is why he's so close to Jaime. Jaime, on the other hand, has never desired to be anything more than a great warrior; Tommen and Myrcella inherit this lack of financial desire from their father. Tyrion is most similar to Tywin, which is partly why Tywin hates him so much.