Tywin was more interested in maintaining his family's strength than actually raising well adjusted children and it cost him and House Lannister dearly.
but if you see it was only the lannister blood that would continue after the war at end of season8. Going by the conventional patriarchy model of carrying the surnames, starks all male heirs were dead except bran, who anyways mostly wouldn't marry. Jon Snow the last targarean went to guard the wall where they vow celibacy. No male heirs of greyjoys, tyrels, martells, baratheons. Only male heir remaining was Lysa Aron's son. Keeping that aside, it was only Tyrion a lanister still alive and can surely continue to marry and have heirs
@@philippeblais8594 you didnt get the point. I am not talking about ruling, I am talking about the family name. At some point Arryn would have kids and that surname would be of the father and not mother. Eg: Even Jofrey was a baratheon and not a lannister. It was sansa stark and not sansa arryn. The only exception would be the targareans who marry within their surname(bro-sis marry).
Her ending was quite peaceful for the monster she had become, dying quickly in the arms of the man who loved her. The poor people being burned alive and crushed in King's Landing suffered way more than Cersei! Actually very realistic... lol
Aye, the commoners, septons, merchants and soldiery had it FAR worse then Cercei did. But, to use her own words in this case: 'do you think she'dve cared?'
She didn’t deserve to die in the arms of anyone. And the destruction of Jaime’s character for “subversion of expectations” was entirely evil on the part of the two clowns directing the shit-show that was the later series .
Idk why but the part where Cersei says "I want to know where they are" and the little box pops up saying "Cersei Lannister wants to Know your location (Allow) (Block)" is just so funny to me lol
To be fair, it is ironic of Tyrion to say that. Nobody praises Cersei for her positives but she makes a minor mistake and everyone joins in on the train. Also I am agreeing with your comment. Cersei is so perfect. She drives me crazy.
@@Chernobyl_Reactor4 How was it ironic of him to say that? Tyrion does praise her for the few positive qualities she does have. He recognizes her genuine love for her children and tries to help her son despite how awful he is. Cersei also treats Tyrion like dogshit throughout the show but he still keeps it professional with her and doesn’t insult her the way she does to him.
@@jameslough6329 Tyrion absolutely deserves the way he is treated. In fact, he was treated too kindly for the monster that he is. A little mutant. What I want for Tyrion is so brutal that UA-cam censors my comment when I want to type it in. Tyrion shipped off Myrcella and I wish to eliminate him just for that. Shipping off Myrcella is more evil than anything Cersei ever did. No justification for it. You probably think Tyrion is an angelic princess. What a grand and intoxicating innocence.
@@Chernobyl_Reactor4 How does Tyrion deserve the way he was treated in the show? I get that in the books he did some terrible things but show Tyrion was frequently shown to be a genuinely good person. Him shipping off Myrcella was questionable but he didn’t do it with any malicious intent and was trying to protect her (he thought she would be safer in Dorne than King’s Landing which makes sense) as well as to use her to form a peaceful alliance with another house. He was the ONLY person in his house who actually cared about Sansa’s well being (Cersei was clearly happy when Tywin tried to force Tyrion to rape Sansa lmao) and didn’t abuse or mistreat her when he easily could have. He also saved Catelyn’s life when he had no reason to and could have easily left her to die. I don’t understand what your problem is with Tyrion.
@@jameslough6329 Shipping off Myrcella was absolutely evil and there is no redemption for that. How dare he act like what he is doing is for her own safety. Why not cast her in cold marble? That keeps her safe. Why not make her plunge into an icy river? It was a temporary threat and he ruined her life. I can only be thankful she died so she didn’t have to marry Trystane. A good person? One of the first scenes is him in a brothel. Courtesans who thought they would be working in a factory, girls from farming villages who were sold by their parents. Tyrion then mocks Theon when Theon tries to be nice to him. Tyrion ships off Myrcella and threw Pycelle into the Black Cells for rightfully telling Cersei. He then has the most arrogant response when Cersei confronts him. “She is a Princess”. Tell that to a mother whose daughter you are shipping off. In fact, I should hand you over to Lord Brisby in his basement, I want to see how you like it. And I love how Tyrion acts like he had a difficult life when he doesn’t do anything to benefit his House and lives a better life than 99% of people. Then his temper tantrum in court. Killing Tywin and Shae when he could have escaped. Shae, the woman he abused. That is why I don’t like him. Tyrion deserves the most brutal of endings. I want to slowly pull the blade out. So he feels it.
Everyone is a horrible person in the show. People just target Cersei because they rolled a dice. There can be ‘diabolical’ compilations for any character in this show. Who doesn’t love her character? She is the perfect character.
@@maxwestland8713 Hyperbole my dude. Let me correct it, 99% of people in this show are awful people. The fact that the good guys inadvertently caused more chaos by trying to do good makes them just as bad in a way because their good only lead to more evil and injustice. Ned is also not as good as people think, he allows Jon to join the Night’s Watch when Winterfell is absolutely massive, he could just have gotten Jon a small house if Cat really didn’t want him there, better yet, don’t allow Cat to chase him away since he is literally in charge. Aemon is just some dude who didn’t want the Throne. Sam is just some fat dude who becomes a Maester.
@@Chernobyl_Reactor4 hahaha bro you strike me as bit of a sociopath. I get what you’re saying but I think you’re confusing horrible with stupid. Ned was only ever trying to do good but he was a dumbass. At the end of the day the horrible people caused all the bad shit from being twats in the first place. There’s honour in the nights watch Jon wanted to go with his uncle Benj to make a name for his bastard self and Ned was cool with that. I think theres more to Aemon and Sam than just some dude and some fat dude. Do you actually listen to the shit that they say or read about their pasts?
@@Chernobyl_Reactor4I don’t think it’s much of a hot take to say the bad people in the show caused A LOT more chaos than the good people. Robb and Ned Stark as well as Jon Snow came close to achieving peace multiple times. It was the actions of evil people like the Lannisters, Roose Bolton, and Alliser Thorne that prevented peace from happening throughout the show. Also Ned sending Jon the Night’s watch was not a kind thing to do. But it doesn’t AT ALL compare to the gruesome torture, psychological abuse, and war crimes of truly bad people like Cersei and Tywin. Ned was an honourable and capable man. He would have achieved peace if not for Cersei wanting to defend her freaky incest relationship with Jaime that lead to Ned’s execution.
@@mahararcher have you even watched this show?) Tywin is the smartest strategist, Cersei is not a strategist at all. She only cares about herself and her family. She doesn't care about other people, even the lands. She is a terrible ruler and a terrible adviser. This becomes clear when you watch the show with your eyes open. By the way, Tywin was never wrong, Cersei was wrong every fucking time. And how do you think she could help win the war if she started it herself?
@@11ll0l yes I have. You have your opinion i have mine. No need to be condescending. Tywin was so smart he get killed by his own son where Cersei always told him to get rid of Tyrion…
@@mahararcher jeez, it's not about opinion, it's about whether it's true or not. You just can't understand the character's imagery system, which is as clear as water. And that's ok, as long as you don't get into an argument with your stupid and easily refuted opinion
Cersei is truly one of the most polarizing characters: stupid, childish, yet domineering and demanding. She will kill your child but be offended if you do the same. She will say your needs mean nothing while everyone is expected to cater to her sudden problems. She resents her duties just as much as she would do anything to keep her title as a queen. Even her own children, whom she swears she loves equally, are still pawns. She got off easy when her death came. She faced no absolution. She was even comforted in her death.
Because Eleria killed her daughter the same way, with poison and a kiss. I believe the idea was she would do the same to her, but worse, being that she would watch her die infront of her and watch her rot.
I don't agree Elaria deserved this nasty death before Cersei would. Yes, Myrcela was innocent, but, while she was like a hostage in Dorne, Cersei didn't hesitate to be very hostile with Oberyn and Elaria when they just came to attend the wedding. Cersei was living for just turning everyone into enemies all around, even when she didn't have a reason to.
It's so funny to me how the show took one of the kindest characters in the books and turned her into polar opposite. Elleria happens to be one of the most empathetic characters in the books. And she is also wise enough to separate vengeance from justice. In fact, she is the one who objected when Sand Snakes intended to kill every each Lannister. Because Elleria knows that revenge is not the solution, it's merely a cycle and only brings more pain...
@@yafayafa9601I would also be rude. They are family of the man who essentially kidnapped Myrcella to use her as a hostage and broodmare. And remember that everyone hates the Dornish, there are literally jokes about hating Dornish. The Dornish are hated in The Seven Kingdoms. And remember that Myrcella was not even allowed to visit for the wedding. Myrcella essentially developed Stockholm syndrome as well. She went five years without seeing her family, conversing with them, she was in no position to refuse Trystane’s advances.
@@Chernobyl_Reactor4 Yes, i think u might be right. But Trystane was innocent himself tho. And his father was a kind man. In the book, Ellaria doesn't kill Myrcella. Myrcella becomes the queen of Dorne and she opposes Cersei's murderous behaviour. For the tv show, if i wanted a more merciful death for Ellaria, it was ONLY because she wasn't a worse person than Cersei was. Still, Ellaria should have killed Cersei, not Myrcella.
If being diabolical and evil and the audacity of not even acknowledging she is evil had a face that's Cersei Lannister,no other character was this much delusional like her even considering that littlefinger
@@mahararcher I get why you might think that, but you have to keep in mind that we're reminded several times in the books about horrible things Cersei did (even as a child). Pinching her little brothers cock after he had just been born, and getting that servant girl beaten up spring to mind.
She could have owned the Game if Tywin had bothered to teach her how to rule. But that's not the hand she was dealt, and she's too bitter to use that hand to its full potential. She's not wrong about misogyny unfairly holding her back. She's just too arrogant to realise that she's also holding _herself_ back. Notably, she's the Queen Regent during Joffrey's reign, meaning she actually _outranks_ him and is the most powerful person in the Seven Kingdoms (besides Tywin,) but she never actually uses that authority to stop Joffrey from doing something stupid. Either Tywin taught her so little that she honestly doesn't realise that she holds all the power until he's of age, or she's so bitter and arrogant that she refuses to accept anything less than being Queen Regnant (ruling in her own right.) Either way, it can be traced back to how misogyny's shaped her life, but shows a complete unwillingness to work with what she's given to get what she wants in her own way.
I’m reading the books and there’s a part where Tyrion questions whether she changed her bed after Robert died in it and she tells him that she kept the bed because it gives her sweet dream
Even though Cersei wrongfully accused Tyrion of murdering Joffrey, I feel sorta bad because she had to witness her oldest son die in a VERY painful way.
This is probably an unpopular opinion. But my point is. Poor English. And it suddenly turned out to be an essay. Why didn't the Eddard Stark keep his silence? Because Jaime, the tower and his son. (did he know about it? or guessed?) This one is clear, it's revenge, and perfectly understandable. And Jon Aren - I can tell you that things are gray, globally, I mean. He was like a father to him, so yes But if it weren't for those things, I think silence would be more appropriate (and his daughters wouldn't be hurt) Cersei cheated on Robert with her brother. So? Things are done. Her three children are already heirs. The country's at peace. Who cares who is on the throne when there is peace and people don't die. Besides her "bastards" are not guilty of anything, Joffrey is bad, Tommen and Myrcella are not - they are children. And Tywin Lannister said (book) about Joffrey that he is still 13 years old and can be influenced, he saw that the boy is awful (well or really poison, Tomenn ok) Robert never loved Cersei, she tried to love him, but it ended on their wedding night "Lyanna" literally. She could forgive him and help him and be very sacrificial. Then maybe it wouldn't have been all not bad, even good. Cersei not sacrificial. By telling the truth to Robert, honorable Eddard Stark doomed her family to death, including Tommen and Myrcella. That's what Jon Ahren was trying to do. Imagine. First you're a sweet little prince\princess. And then you're an incestuous bastard who's reviled by the whole kingdom. There's no mercy in that. Killing those who would do such a thing to your children is an understandable thing. If you consider the story on Cersei's behalf - she often killed and did evil things when she could have been hurt or her children. Still, she's cruel, that's true. Sansa's wolf moment really is. It's evil and cruel, she had a twisted reason for it, her son got hurt. Killing a guilty wolf - could have been a really understood thing. But no - this scene shows that her heart is cruel. The kindness would be to forgive it. It's interesting what such cruelty sometimes protects. Imagine if she loved Sansa's grandson and loved Sansa herself. And someone would want to kill her sweet "daughter in law's" wolf and the grandson would be crying. It would be a lion's roar. It wouldn't have happened. She had a clear distinction - "my family" and "no." Tyrion is no. Pretty sure if Tywin loved Tyrion, he'd treat him well, too. Because she respected her father. Her scales of right and wrong bend as they will, she has no wisdom. Patience, she can't compromise when necessary. Tywin understood that. Catelyn Stark was horrible to Jon, and Sansa copied her attitude. But should we blame them too? Dark Medieval Things Like This. Cersei is more evil one, but that doesn't mean there's nothing genuinely good about her at all. That doesn't mean it can't be loved and dealt with in a true positive way without being told a thousand times how wrong\bad she is. Characters are Complex - whether they are "evil" or "good". I'm not from the fandom. And I don't read much on GOT, only watched the series very closely, years ago and read a few moments in the books. I never hated her much. I tried to understand her and empathized when things were cruel. And if the fandom stong hates a character like Cersei, it's just superficially. The energy of support for those who like Cersei is here. This is All Good. Characters like Cersei are created for thought, to think from different angles. Hating the characters ruins everything, robs the fandom of interesting thoughts, robs it of enjoyable things. I don't think the author hated her when he wrote her, he understood her and thought about her fate and thoughts. Art is not for hate. Lena Headey's acting makes me shiver. It's Brillant. And Cersei is Brilliant. Art is for beauty and complexity.
Thing is the actual Cersei is quite dumb. In the tv series the only really dumb thing she did was the faith stuff. Well, and refusing to join the battle in the North.
Jaime knew that it would never work between he and Brienne. Even Brienne recognized she was in mortal peril if Cersei recognized the love she had for Jaime and their mutual respect and burgeoning real intimacy for one another.
I genuinely like Cersei, I don’t understand why people hate her so much. People rolled a dice and it landed on Cersei, that is usually how fandoms decide who to hate. The dude on my profile pic used to be hated, now he is beloved. People say Cersei did this and Cersei did that. I can say that for every character in the show. Cersei is not among the most evil people in the show, when you are raised with Tywin Lannister being your primary influence and being put down, abused and raped, you become a different person, people don’t understand that. Nobody ever judges the evil things Tyrion does, prostitution, drinking, whining when he has a better life than 99% of people. Nobody says Tyrion was evil for selling Myrcella to Dorne, Myrcella was only 10 years old. This community just act like sheep and hate on Cersei because that is the cool thing to do.
@@TheKlutz31013Cersei is evil but literally everyone in the show is. Cersei is no worse than the rest of her family. I could point out any character and explain why he or she is evil. I mentioned Tyrion in my comment. I ain’t saying Cersei is a good person, but she ain’t the worst person either. She would probably be a lawful evil. She doesn’t go around doing stuff to hurt others needlessly. I am glad to have met a fellow supporter of our true Queen. When fandoms hate someone, it is literally a dice roll. In another universe, Tyrion would be most hated. Cersei has flaws and positives, like every person, like you and me. People act like she is evil boosted to 11. It is so annoying.
I agree Cersei was definitely evil but every character has done something bad on the show so if your going to hate Cersei you may as well hate everyone on the show
@@SunshineBarbie-sv4bi Exactly, Cersei is likely not the best person but she is less evil than others. She doesn’t actively harm others who leave her alone, if you leave her alone than she leaves you alone. The Sept was collateral damage so that doesn’t count. Everyone on the show is an awful person but they don’t get hated but Cersei does, it is laughable. The fandom are like sheep just following the trend and not thinking for themselves.
@@Chernobyl_Reactor4 She had her guards beat the shit out of a random kitchen girl and then throw her in the dungeon as a flex. Collateral damage absolutely counts.
In Cersei’s defense, I couldn’t stand Margaery either. 😂 Her blowing up the Sept & taking care of most of her ops and in-laws at once was an epic scene, minus Tommem checking out. 😬
say what you will as awful of a person she is she loved her children fiercely. Her revenge against the Septa and Ellaria was the one time I understood why she did what she did. Tho the septa was kinda ... extreme.
cersei isn’t evil, those who don’t understand her are missing out. one of the best characters ever written, lena did an excellent job portraying her and only enhanced her character.
Abusing and murdering the innocent isn't evil? Whatever her motives, whatever she endured, she was evil. Others in similar situations chose to be much kinder and virtuous. Cersei was not only evil, but she corrupted and made evil those around her. Including her own family, including Jamie and Lancel who both could have been decent men. Jamie was especially tragic. Cersei made him a monster and he was torn up inside. He had a good side, which we saw Brienne bring out of him, and a dark side Cersei encouraged that made him choose to join her in evil.
She’s a narcissist. Plain and simple. Throughout the show, she does things for her own power and control. She killed Robert not because she wanted back at him for cheating, but because she wanted to place her “golden child” on the throne because she thought he would give her power. Look how that turned out. She doesn’t like Margery because her sons are more willing to listen to her over their crazy mother. Tywin quite literally states that the reason why her opinion isn’t valued is because she isn’t as smart as she thinks she is. Cersei has no concept whatsoever of her own limitations or what she’s good at. Because Cersei is good at everything and the only reason why they don’t listen to her is because she’s a woman. We see that most of her actions in the show are driven by pettiness and jealousy. Hell, even her actress Lena Headey states in an interview that she plays Cersei like a spoiled teenage girl.
Never understood why Cersei is hated more than all other characters. She was cruel but so were other people. Everyone did cruel things when they needed to survive or further their interests. As a queen and queen mother, Cersei needed to be more cruel than others to protect her interests. Most of the clips here are her revenge for harm to herself or her children.
Exactly, Cersei never harmed anyone who didn’t harm her directly. There is only one exception and she probably didn’t mean for that, it was collateral damage. I don’t want to spoil anything. People were always doing something to make her snap, especially Tyrion, that monster. Tyrion is a psychopath, he is misogynistic, he sees women as tools and objects, he traded Myrcella away for an empty promise because he could. If anyone deserves hate, it is the monster, Tyrion. Tyrion lives a better life than 99% of people but he thinks life is unfair. I wish people hated Tyrion as much as they do with Cersei. Tyrion ruined the show, it could have been amazing without him. If anyone deserves hate, it is Tyrion.
@@Chernobyl_Reactor4 I don't think you know what a psychopath is. BTW, read up on Tyrions history. He was literally mentally tortured by Tywin and Cersei all his life.
@@Chernobyl_Reactor4 you know what, let me go in a little more detail. Psychopaths show no remorse. Tyrion showed lots of that throughout the series. You say he's misogynistic, yet he follows a queen for half the series, and many scenes show him full-on supporting her even when no one else does. Research is a very important thing, my friend. Don't be afraid to spoil a nearly fifteen year old show that ended 5 years ago.
I understand now that Cercei is not a monster, but she is actually the victim of others abuses and tragical events. Her mother died when she had a young age and this is painfull and traumatic for a child. I can image that her father Tywin did not show any affection or love to hid children becaude she was deeply affected by his wife death to as he recognised in one of the episode. Then Cercei was forced to marry against her will and she to sleep with Robert even if she did not live him and he did not love him back. It is very unjust and traumatic for a women to have sex with a man she does not like and she does not want. Her life was full of misery...she finally fall în love with Robert and she wished to receive back his love or any for of afection. But it did not happen. She was so desperate to search love and afection and she ended up being with his own brother. Then all of her children died...one by one...do not judge Cercei. She had times and moments I miraculously saw when she was kind and polite with others and she wanted to have good friends and health relationships with other. But somehow they turned their back, they betrayed her , they mocked her, they judged her....
It's possible to be a victim and a monster at the same time, yk? Even if there are many events which made her like she is, those things only explain her behaviour, they don't excuse it. She was given the chance to just let the matter go in many cases, but instead chose to slash out against innocents time and time again.
@@_jpgIt’s definitely possible, a lot of killers/predators have had awful lives and were victims,now people don’t wanna justify Cersei we have the logical ability to see where this came, some people don’t react well to misfortunes and Cersei was one of those people
“Nobody cares…what your father once told you.” Has me dead
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I forgot that scene 😂 Cersei was such a bitch but I loved every scene with her
@@deannas2778lol
The compilation of Cersei being diabolical could take up more than 7 minutes. Try every scene she’s in.
But when she loves her kids, it’s kinda sweet though.
@@lower_than_furries9727enabler*
@@lower_than_furries9727In her own sick way!
Her death?
@@lower_than_furries9727she doesn’t
“ It was expected of me” The tilt of the angle tho😂
Cersei sounded so salty
That edit sent me into hysterics 🤣🤣🤣
@@10181nghsame I choked and wheezed, the whole nines 🤣
the camera tilt on "it was exPECted of me" cracks me up lololol
Cersei: please SPARE me from this bullshit of "women tolerance"
Tywin was more interested in maintaining his family's strength than actually raising well adjusted children and it cost him and House Lannister dearly.
but if you see it was only the lannister blood that would continue after the war at end of season8. Going by the conventional patriarchy model of carrying the surnames, starks all male heirs were dead except bran, who anyways mostly wouldn't marry. Jon Snow the last targarean went to guard the wall where they vow celibacy. No male heirs of greyjoys, tyrels, martells, baratheons. Only male heir remaining was Lysa Aron's son. Keeping that aside, it was only Tyrion a lanister still alive and can surely continue to marry and have heirs
@@cnp6501Sansa and Arya are alive. Sansa's children can continue taking the stark name
@@jeelee3096And it's not like women can't rule. I mean, during the dance of the dragons, the Vale is ruled by lady Jeyne Arryn.
@@cnp6501 Jon is no longer part of the watch though, because his vow was a vow until death and he died.
@@philippeblais8594 you didnt get the point. I am not talking about ruling, I am talking about the family name. At some point Arryn would have kids and that surname would be of the father and not mother. Eg: Even Jofrey was a baratheon and not a lannister. It was sansa stark and not sansa arryn. The only exception would be the targareans who marry within their surname(bro-sis marry).
The lion's growl nearly killed me 😂
Same
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Was Brienne’s eyes growing a visual effect?!? 😂
@@brishawmcknight8856 It wasn't like this in the show, the editor added it
Her anger issues are honestly unmatched she can't control herself for even 5 min😂
Her ending was quite peaceful for the monster she had become, dying quickly in the arms of the man who loved her. The poor people being burned alive and crushed in King's Landing suffered way more than Cersei! Actually very realistic... lol
She needed to suffer more.
Aye, the commoners, septons, merchants and soldiery had it FAR worse then Cercei did. But, to use her own words in this case: 'do you think she'dve cared?'
Lena Headley has said many times that Cersei deserved a more gruesome death.
well it was denarys fault after all
She didn’t deserve to die in the arms of anyone. And the destruction of Jaime’s character for “subversion of expectations” was entirely evil on the part of the two clowns directing the shit-show that was the later series .
You completely forgot about
“I choose violence” 😂😂
Idk why but the part where Cersei says "I want to know where they are" and the little box pops up saying "Cersei Lannister wants to Know your location (Allow) (Block)" is just so funny to me lol
0:40 the quote after that “Power is power” is the best
To be fair, it is ironic of Tyrion to say that. Nobody praises Cersei for her positives but she makes a minor mistake and everyone joins in on the train. Also I am agreeing with your comment. Cersei is so perfect. She drives me crazy.
@@Chernobyl_Reactor4 How was it ironic of him to say that? Tyrion does praise her for the few positive qualities she does have. He recognizes her genuine love for her children and tries to help her son despite how awful he is. Cersei also treats Tyrion like dogshit throughout the show but he still keeps it professional with her and doesn’t insult her the way she does to him.
@@jameslough6329 Tyrion absolutely deserves the way he is treated. In fact, he was treated too kindly for the monster that he is. A little mutant.
What I want for Tyrion is so brutal that UA-cam censors my comment when I want to type it in.
Tyrion shipped off Myrcella and I wish to eliminate him just for that. Shipping off Myrcella is more evil than anything Cersei ever did. No justification for it.
You probably think Tyrion is an angelic princess. What a grand and intoxicating innocence.
@@Chernobyl_Reactor4 How does Tyrion deserve the way he was treated in the show? I get that in the books he did some terrible things but show Tyrion was frequently shown to be a genuinely good person.
Him shipping off Myrcella was questionable but he didn’t do it with any malicious intent and was trying to protect her (he thought she would be safer in Dorne than King’s Landing which makes sense) as well as to use her to form a peaceful alliance with another house.
He was the ONLY person in his house who actually cared about Sansa’s well being (Cersei was clearly happy when Tywin tried to force Tyrion to rape Sansa lmao) and didn’t abuse or mistreat her when he easily could have.
He also saved Catelyn’s life when he had no reason to and could have easily left her to die.
I don’t understand what your problem is with Tyrion.
@@jameslough6329 Shipping off Myrcella was absolutely evil and there is no redemption for that. How dare he act like what he is doing is for her own safety. Why not cast her in cold marble? That keeps her safe. Why not make her plunge into an icy river?
It was a temporary threat and he ruined her life. I can only be thankful she died so she didn’t have to marry Trystane.
A good person? One of the first scenes is him in a brothel. Courtesans who thought they would be working in a factory, girls from farming villages who were sold by their parents. Tyrion then mocks Theon when Theon tries to be nice to him.
Tyrion ships off Myrcella and threw Pycelle into the Black Cells for rightfully telling Cersei. He then has the most arrogant response when Cersei confronts him. “She is a Princess”. Tell that to a mother whose daughter you are shipping off. In fact, I should hand you over to Lord Brisby in his basement, I want to see how you like it.
And I love how Tyrion acts like he had a difficult life when he doesn’t do anything to benefit his House and lives a better life than 99% of people.
Then his temper tantrum in court. Killing Tywin and Shae when he could have escaped. Shae, the woman he abused.
That is why I don’t like him. Tyrion deserves the most brutal of endings. I want to slowly pull the blade out. So he feels it.
Cersei Being Diabolical for 8 Seasons Straight**
She had her moments where she was genuinely trying to be nice.
She genuinely did try to make nice with Margery for Tommans sake.
Cersei was a horrible person but I love her character
Everyone is a horrible person in the show. People just target Cersei because they rolled a dice. There can be ‘diabolical’ compilations for any character in this show. Who doesn’t love her character? She is the perfect character.
@@Chernobyl_Reactor4Bit harsh to say everyone is horrible. Can’t be saying characters like Ned, Aemon, Sam etc are horrible lol
@@maxwestland8713 Hyperbole my dude. Let me correct it, 99% of people in this show are awful people. The fact that the good guys inadvertently caused more chaos by trying to do good makes them just as bad in a way because their good only lead to more evil and injustice. Ned is also not as good as people think, he allows Jon to join the Night’s Watch when Winterfell is absolutely massive, he could just have gotten Jon a small house if Cat really didn’t want him there, better yet, don’t allow Cat to chase him away since he is literally in charge.
Aemon is just some dude who didn’t want the Throne.
Sam is just some fat dude who becomes a Maester.
@@Chernobyl_Reactor4 hahaha bro you strike me as bit of a sociopath. I get what you’re saying but I think you’re confusing horrible with stupid. Ned was only ever trying to do good but he was a dumbass. At the end of the day the horrible people caused all the bad shit from being twats in the first place. There’s honour in the nights watch Jon wanted to go with his uncle Benj to make a name for his bastard self and Ned was cool with that. I think theres more to Aemon and Sam than just some dude and some fat dude. Do you actually listen to the shit that they say or read about their pasts?
@@Chernobyl_Reactor4I don’t think it’s much of a hot take to say the bad people in the show caused A LOT more chaos than the good people. Robb and Ned Stark as well as Jon Snow came close to achieving peace multiple times. It was the actions of evil people like the Lannisters, Roose Bolton, and Alliser Thorne that prevented peace from happening throughout the show.
Also Ned sending Jon the Night’s watch was not a kind thing to do. But it doesn’t AT ALL compare to the gruesome torture, psychological abuse, and war crimes of truly bad people like Cersei and Tywin. Ned was an honourable and capable man. He would have achieved peace if not for Cersei wanting to defend her freaky incest relationship with Jaime that lead to Ned’s execution.
"But you love him."
Brienne: 😰😳 UHHH
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"It's time for family therapy".😢
Take care over the holidays everyone
It would take an army of therapists to straighten out the Lannisters.
The location popup had me WHEEZING. 💀
I know right 🤣🤣
More like "Cersei being vengeful/salty for 7 Minutes STRAIGHT"
PREACH 🙏😂
1:17 Cersei telling someone to get out of a room that SHE entered is a level of vile one can only dream of achieving
I would love to see Keira Knightley play a young Cersei
Keira knightly isn’t that young anymore 😂
@@wesleyc8101 they have make-up
@@wesleyc8101 right 😂 Keira is now the age Lena was in the beginning of GoT.
the fact that Cersei had to crouch to push tyrion.
Lena Heady is just indescribable!
Ironically for Tywin, Cersei is the only Lannister who is really doesn't care about opinions of the sheep
If Tywin had trust Cersei, lannister would have won all the war. The man only mistake was to distrust her daughter
@@mahararcher have you even watched this show?) Tywin is the smartest strategist, Cersei is not a strategist at all. She only cares about herself and her family. She doesn't care about other people, even the lands. She is a terrible ruler and a terrible adviser. This becomes clear when you watch the show with your eyes open. By the way, Tywin was never wrong, Cersei was wrong every fucking time. And how do you think she could help win the war if she started it herself?
@@11ll0l yes I have. You have your opinion i have mine. No need to be condescending. Tywin was so smart he get killed by his own son where Cersei always told him to get rid of Tyrion…
@@mahararcher jeez, it's not about opinion, it's about whether it's true or not. You just can't understand the character's imagery system, which is as clear as water. And that's ok, as long as you don't get into an argument with your stupid and easily refuted opinion
@Vetnir-de4yv u dumb cersei was not a strategist at all
The mad lioness of Casterly Rock
3:23 Brienne's eyes 😆
My fav character in the whole show! I always rooted for her, wish she had a crazier death
She was so vile but I loved her anyway😂
Cersei is truly one of the most polarizing characters: stupid, childish, yet domineering and demanding. She will kill your child but be offended if you do the same. She will say your needs mean nothing while everyone is expected to cater to her sudden problems. She resents her duties just as much as she would do anything to keep her title as a queen. Even her own children, whom she swears she loves equally, are still pawns. She got off easy when her death came. She faced no absolution. She was even comforted in her death.
Your editing is absolutely spot on
the lion growl😂
Did anyone notice that briennes eyes got wide?! 😅
To this day i still feel sorry for Loras
Why? 😂 such a sissy 😂
She can be the evil queen in snow white
i feel pleasure in watching that, it feels wrong but oh it feels so good.
Hats off for this impressive acting
One of the best characters in the show, she done her work very well and everyone hates her for it.
Best villain ever.
i love her character, she's so entertaining to watch.
The little push at 1:09 is hilarious to me I can’t imagine the actress having to do multiple takes. 1:09
Cersei reminded me of the Goddess Hera
Been a wave of reuploads on UA-cam lately
im here for it
“Smirking white from high garden” I can laught at that even though I love Margery!!
The more you see got the more you look at actors playing lannisters. They are the top of got !!
she was a menace to society😭😭😭😭
I love her.
4:34 has me weak 🤣🤣💀
My queen
Im dying where Cersei pours that whine on septa:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Everytime i close the door after winning an argument i say or think "Shame"
@@pierrelapiou1097You’re petty for that 😂😂😂
Why you bully me had me laughing
I love how the video doesn't include any season 8 clips because all she did in season 8 was drink wine XD
Nah but fr what purpose did it serve to poison Myrcella? Elaria deserved a nasty death
Because Eleria killed her daughter the same way, with poison and a kiss. I believe the idea was she would do the same to her, but worse, being that she would watch her die infront of her and watch her rot.
I don't agree Elaria deserved this nasty death before Cersei would. Yes, Myrcela was innocent, but, while she was like a hostage in Dorne, Cersei didn't hesitate to be very hostile with Oberyn and Elaria when they just came to attend the wedding. Cersei was living for just turning everyone into enemies all around, even when she didn't have a reason to.
It's so funny to me how the show took one of the kindest characters in the books and turned her into polar opposite.
Elleria happens to be one of the most empathetic characters in the books. And she is also wise enough to separate vengeance from justice.
In fact, she is the one who objected when Sand Snakes intended to kill every each Lannister. Because Elleria knows that revenge is not the solution, it's merely a cycle and only brings more pain...
@@yafayafa9601I would also be rude. They are family of the man who essentially kidnapped Myrcella to use her as a hostage and broodmare. And remember that everyone hates the Dornish, there are literally jokes about hating Dornish. The Dornish are hated in The Seven Kingdoms. And remember that Myrcella was not even allowed to visit for the wedding. Myrcella essentially developed Stockholm syndrome as well. She went five years without seeing her family, conversing with them, she was in no position to refuse Trystane’s advances.
@@Chernobyl_Reactor4 Yes, i think u might be right. But Trystane was innocent himself tho. And his father was a kind man. In the book, Ellaria doesn't kill Myrcella. Myrcella becomes the queen of Dorne and she opposes Cersei's murderous behaviour. For the tv show, if i wanted a more merciful death for Ellaria, it was ONLY because she wasn't a worse person than Cersei was. Still, Ellaria should have killed Cersei, not Myrcella.
My Queen!
The Mountain had a first class ticket to watch some fine family drama
Bro Cersei fucking cracks me up lol idk why she’s up there with Joffrey and Ramsay on most hated she’s not nearly as bad as those 2 fuckers.
lol Tyrion's slow stare at her after her rant like ....😶🤔🥸
4:31 🤣
What mouth though! 🤣🤣🤣
God she was the best
That push on Tyrion was personal...
" we need family therapy " absolutely SENT ME
honestly im still pretty quick to defend Cersei. there’s a quiet strength in her lack of shame. i can’t really put my finger on it.
Still... LOVE HER! Best character through the entire series.
I liked 👍 this video before even watching it. 🍷
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"What?...Now??...Today???" Lol😅
Never a better time to give your teletherapist a call than when Cersei Lannister seems hot, again.
A slice of cake...
If being diabolical and evil and the audacity of not even acknowledging she is evil had a face that's Cersei Lannister,no other character was this much delusional like her even considering that littlefinger
2:03 is actually diabolical 💀💀😭
Cersei was my favourite character though.
You missed out her use of wild fire and the epic explosion.
Cersi was bat shit before the fade but damn after. Menace lol
A maior vilã da série, merecia uma morte mais cruel e satisfatória!
I just pissed myself off watching this knowing how this evil woman dies 😂
Love her.
Lena Headey🔥🔥🔥
It would be easy to say that this woman’s life has only been made by the value of herself.
Wrong. All her life was about pain and betrayal. Men made her like this
And it would be just as simple to say that Cersei took the opinion of those men, not the fact of what she knows about herself.
@@mahararcher
@@mahararcher I get why you might think that, but you have to keep in mind that we're reminded several times in the books about horrible things Cersei did (even as a child). Pinching her little brothers cock after he had just been born, and getting that servant girl beaten up spring to mind.
@@mahararcherclassic female deflection 😂
She could have owned the Game if Tywin had bothered to teach her how to rule. But that's not the hand she was dealt, and she's too bitter to use that hand to its full potential.
She's not wrong about misogyny unfairly holding her back. She's just too arrogant to realise that she's also holding _herself_ back. Notably, she's the Queen Regent during Joffrey's reign, meaning she actually _outranks_ him and is the most powerful person in the Seven Kingdoms (besides Tywin,) but she never actually uses that authority to stop Joffrey from doing something stupid. Either Tywin taught her so little that she honestly doesn't realise that she holds all the power until he's of age, or she's so bitter and arrogant that she refuses to accept anything less than being Queen Regnant (ruling in her own right.) Either way, it can be traced back to how misogyny's shaped her life, but shows a complete unwillingness to work with what she's given to get what she wants in her own way.
She was the best in GOT right up until season 8
No one could make me hate Madre
I’m reading the books and there’s a part where Tyrion questions whether she changed her bed after Robert died in it and she tells him that she kept the bed because it gives her sweet dream
Cersei is by far the best character in this show
Now that she's gaining popularity, can we just appreciate how gorgeous the actor for Septa Unella is? (Hannah Waddingham)
Cersei vs Ariya 😮
Well rhian did the wrong thing sending his niece over to dawn her blood is on his hands but they never brought it up
1:56 😁
Shes a damn good actress if she can get to the core of viewers....an jus piss u off hahaha
She may be mean but she never misses
It's the ultimate cruelty to blame someone who's mother died in childbirth for her death.
Cersei took care of that bad poosey.
You not including the: "power is power", really is a shame
Even though Cersei wrongfully accused Tyrion of murdering Joffrey, I feel sorta bad because she had to witness her oldest son die in a VERY painful way.
one of the biggest ways they fucked up the ending was lettinng martells daughter die! BRON should have come ad rescued her! and we ALL know it!
This is probably an unpopular opinion. But my point is.
Poor English.
And it suddenly turned out to be an essay.
Why didn't the Eddard Stark keep his silence?
Because Jaime, the tower and his son. (did he know about it? or guessed?)
This one is clear, it's revenge, and perfectly understandable.
And Jon Aren - I can tell you that things are gray, globally, I mean. He was like a father to him, so yes
But if it weren't for those things, I think silence would be more appropriate (and his daughters wouldn't be hurt)
Cersei cheated on Robert with her brother. So? Things are done. Her three children are already heirs. The country's at peace. Who cares who is on the throne when there is peace and people don't die.
Besides her "bastards" are not guilty of anything, Joffrey is bad, Tommen and Myrcella are not - they are children. And Tywin Lannister said (book) about Joffrey that he is still 13 years old and can be influenced, he saw that the boy is awful (well or really poison, Tomenn ok)
Robert never loved Cersei, she tried to love him, but it ended on their wedding night "Lyanna" literally. She could forgive him and help him and be very sacrificial. Then maybe it wouldn't have been all not bad, even good. Cersei not sacrificial.
By telling the truth to Robert, honorable Eddard Stark doomed her family to death, including Tommen and Myrcella. That's what Jon Ahren was trying to do.
Imagine. First you're a sweet little prince\princess. And then you're an incestuous bastard who's reviled by the whole kingdom. There's no mercy in that.
Killing those who would do such a thing to your children is an understandable thing.
If you consider the story on Cersei's behalf - she often killed and did evil things when she could have been hurt or her children. Still, she's cruel, that's true.
Sansa's wolf moment really is. It's evil and cruel, she had a twisted reason for it, her son got hurt. Killing a guilty wolf - could have been a really understood thing. But no - this scene shows that her heart is cruel.
The kindness would be to forgive it.
It's interesting what such cruelty sometimes protects. Imagine if she loved Sansa's grandson and loved Sansa herself. And someone would want to kill her sweet "daughter in law's" wolf and the grandson would be crying. It would be a lion's roar. It wouldn't have happened.
She had a clear distinction - "my family" and "no." Tyrion is no. Pretty sure if Tywin loved Tyrion, he'd treat him well, too. Because she respected her father.
Her scales of right and wrong bend as they will, she has no wisdom. Patience, she can't compromise when necessary. Tywin understood that.
Catelyn Stark was horrible to Jon, and Sansa copied her attitude. But should we blame them too? Dark Medieval Things Like This.
Cersei is more evil one, but that doesn't mean there's nothing genuinely good about her at all. That doesn't mean it can't be loved and dealt with in a true positive way without being told a thousand times how wrong\bad she is.
Characters are Complex - whether they are "evil" or "good".
I'm not from the fandom. And I don't read much on GOT, only watched the series very closely, years ago and read a few moments in the books.
I never hated her much.
I tried to understand her and empathized when things were cruel.
And if the fandom stong hates a character like Cersei, it's just superficially.
The energy of support for those who like Cersei is here. This is All Good.
Characters like Cersei are created for thought, to think from different angles.
Hating the characters ruins everything, robs the fandom of interesting thoughts, robs it of enjoyable things.
I don't think the author hated her when he wrote her, he understood her and thought about her fate and thoughts. Art is not for hate.
Lena Headey's acting makes me shiver. It's Brillant. And Cersei is Brilliant.
Art is for beauty and complexity.
my favorite part was when she was walking naked thru the streets
Thing is the actual Cersei is quite dumb. In the tv series the only really dumb thing she did was the faith stuff. Well, and refusing to join the battle in the North.
Jaime knew that it would never work between he and Brienne. Even Brienne recognized she was in mortal peril if Cersei recognized the love she had for Jaime and their mutual respect and burgeoning real intimacy for one another.
Lena Headey played her to perfection! What an actress. I love to hate her character!
Sorry but Ellaria and Tyene deserved that.
I genuinely like Cersei, I don’t understand why people hate her so much. People rolled a dice and it landed on Cersei, that is usually how fandoms decide who to hate. The dude on my profile pic used to be hated, now he is beloved. People say Cersei did this and Cersei did that. I can say that for every character in the show. Cersei is not among the most evil people in the show, when you are raised with Tywin Lannister being your primary influence and being put down, abused and raped, you become a different person, people don’t understand that. Nobody ever judges the evil things Tyrion does, prostitution, drinking, whining when he has a better life than 99% of people. Nobody says Tyrion was evil for selling Myrcella to Dorne, Myrcella was only 10 years old. This community just act like sheep and hate on Cersei because that is the cool thing to do.
Same, I love her. She was an evil bitch but so what? It made her a fascinating character to watch
@@TheKlutz31013Cersei is evil but literally everyone in the show is. Cersei is no worse than the rest of her family. I could point out any character and explain why he or she is evil. I mentioned Tyrion in my comment. I ain’t saying Cersei is a good person, but she ain’t the worst person either. She would probably be a lawful evil. She doesn’t go around doing stuff to hurt others needlessly. I am glad to have met a fellow supporter of our true Queen.
When fandoms hate someone, it is literally a dice roll. In another universe, Tyrion would be most hated.
Cersei has flaws and positives, like every person, like you and me. People act like she is evil boosted to 11. It is so annoying.
I agree Cersei was definitely evil but every character has done something bad on the show so if your going to hate Cersei you may as well hate everyone on the show
@@SunshineBarbie-sv4bi Exactly, Cersei is likely not the best person but she is less evil than others. She doesn’t actively harm others who leave her alone, if you leave her alone than she leaves you alone. The Sept was collateral damage so that doesn’t count.
Everyone on the show is an awful person but they don’t get hated but Cersei does, it is laughable. The fandom are like sheep just following the trend and not thinking for themselves.
@@Chernobyl_Reactor4 She had her guards beat the shit out of a random kitchen girl and then throw her in the dungeon as a flex. Collateral damage absolutely counts.
In Cersei’s defense, I couldn’t stand Margaery either. 😂 Her blowing up the Sept & taking care of most of her ops and in-laws at once was an epic scene, minus Tommem checking out. 😬
Same! I hate that Tommen actually killed himself for Maergery like I'm sorry what?
say what you will as awful of a person she is she loved her children fiercely. Her revenge against the Septa and Ellaria was the one time I understood why she did what she did. Tho the septa was kinda ... extreme.
cersei isn’t evil, those who don’t understand her are missing out. one of the best characters ever written, lena did an excellent job portraying her and only enhanced her character.
Abusing and murdering the innocent isn't evil? Whatever her motives, whatever she endured, she was evil. Others in similar situations chose to be much kinder and virtuous. Cersei was not only evil, but she corrupted and made evil those around her. Including her own family, including Jamie and Lancel who both could have been decent men. Jamie was especially tragic. Cersei made him a monster and he was torn up inside. He had a good side, which we saw Brienne bring out of him, and a dark side Cersei encouraged that made him choose to join her in evil.
She’s a narcissist. Plain and simple. Throughout the show, she does things for her own power and control. She killed Robert not because she wanted back at him for cheating, but because she wanted to place her “golden child” on the throne because she thought he would give her power. Look how that turned out. She doesn’t like Margery because her sons are more willing to listen to her over their crazy mother. Tywin quite literally states that the reason why her opinion isn’t valued is because she isn’t as smart as she thinks she is. Cersei has no concept whatsoever of her own limitations or what she’s good at. Because Cersei is good at everything and the only reason why they don’t listen to her is because she’s a woman. We see that most of her actions in the show are driven by pettiness and jealousy. Hell, even her actress Lena Headey states in an interview that she plays Cersei like a spoiled teenage girl.
Never understood why Cersei is hated more than all other characters. She was cruel but so were other people. Everyone did cruel things when they needed to survive or further their interests. As a queen and queen mother, Cersei needed to be more cruel than others to protect her interests. Most of the clips here are her revenge for harm to herself or her children.
Exactly, Cersei never harmed anyone who didn’t harm her directly. There is only one exception and she probably didn’t mean for that, it was collateral damage. I don’t want to spoil anything. People were always doing something to make her snap, especially Tyrion, that monster. Tyrion is a psychopath, he is misogynistic, he sees women as tools and objects, he traded Myrcella away for an empty promise because he could.
If anyone deserves hate, it is the monster, Tyrion. Tyrion lives a better life than 99% of people but he thinks life is unfair. I wish people hated Tyrion as much as they do with Cersei. Tyrion ruined the show, it could have been amazing without him. If anyone deserves hate, it is Tyrion.
@@Chernobyl_Reactor4 I don't think you know what a psychopath is. BTW, read up on Tyrions history. He was literally mentally tortured by Tywin and Cersei all his life.
@@Chernobyl_Reactor4 you know what, let me go in a little more detail.
Psychopaths show no remorse. Tyrion showed lots of that throughout the series.
You say he's misogynistic, yet he follows a queen for half the series, and many scenes show him full-on supporting her even when no one else does.
Research is a very important thing, my friend.
Don't be afraid to spoil a nearly fifteen year old show that ended 5 years ago.
I wish her death had been as gruesome as her character
А как же «Я выбираю насилие»?
I understand now that Cercei is not a monster, but she is actually the victim of others abuses and tragical events. Her mother died when she had a young age and this is painfull and traumatic for a child. I can image that her father Tywin did not show any affection or love to hid children becaude she was deeply affected by his wife death to as he recognised in one of the episode. Then Cercei was forced to marry against her will and she to sleep with Robert even if she did not live him and he did not love him back. It is very unjust and traumatic for a women to have sex with a man she does not like and she does not want. Her life was full of misery...she finally fall în love with Robert and she wished to receive back his love or any for of afection. But it did not happen. She was so desperate to search love and afection and she ended up being with his own brother. Then all of her children died...one by one...do not judge Cercei. She had times and moments I miraculously saw when she was kind and polite with others and she wanted to have good friends and health relationships with other. But somehow they turned their back, they betrayed her , they mocked her, they judged her....
It's possible to be a victim and a monster at the same time, yk?
Even if there are many events which made her like she is, those things only explain her behaviour, they don't excuse it.
She was given the chance to just let the matter go in many cases, but instead chose to slash out against innocents time and time again.
@@_jpgIt’s definitely possible, a lot of killers/predators have had awful lives and were victims,now people don’t wanna justify Cersei we have the logical ability to see where this came, some people don’t react well to misfortunes and Cersei was one of those people