Glock G42 380 ACP: Did Glock Make a Mistake?
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Fun Gun Reviews Presents: Glock G42 380 ACP : Did Glock Make a Mistake? Where's the 9mm single stack Glock? Here are some reasons I think Glock's upcoming G43 has not been released and why the G42 is so popular.
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I love the G42! I'm not a glock guy, but I'm a .380 guy and this pistol is a damn good one.
The G42 is a sweet handgun, no complaints.
So I'm a year late replying to this topic, but I think I have some relative feedback. I purchased a used Glock 42 fairly recently. As we all now know Glock did come out with their single stack 9mm, the 43, but I chose the 42 over the 43 for several reasons.
Those reasons are: (1) Weight - The 42 is significantly lighter than the 43. (2) Size - The 42 is slightly smaller than the 43, but not too small, which is an issue I have with many pocket pistols. (3) Shot placement - I am not a great shot by any definition, but the recoil on the 42 is so mild that I can empty the magazine in rapid fire without losing my sight picture. I personally can't do that with a 9mm. Recognizing one's limitations, and carrying a gun you can actually shoot is more important than caliber in my opinion.
So all of those things considered I feel that the 42 was a better choice for me. So to answer the question asked in this video as to whether or not Glock made a mistake with the .380 I'd say absolutely not. There are plenty of people just like me that will prefer it over the 43.
2 years late on this but this is an excellent comment and an under rated opinion. I like seeing when people come to this conclusion. Many people argue over calibers, but if you've found one that you are confident, comfortable and effective with then you've made the right choice.
I am a Glock man and I believe it is a great gun but I also feel that it should have been made a bit smaller. Smaller is better for my needs.
3 years late on this but just bought a used one in great condition for $270 :)
chun wei Hsu Best with a plus 2 mag extension for large hands!
Great comment. Everybody has different wants and needs. The 42 would is a real pocket glock which is what's appealing to me. Definitely easy to shoot compared to most pocket guns
If you shoot the 42 and 43 side by side, you will easily find the 42 more comfortable and more accurate to shoot.
I agree with more comfortable but not sure about accuracy. For us with bigger hands, the 43 feels better in hand and with an after market extended mag, 43 is more accurate imo. 42 is a smooth shooter for such a small gun though. Get em both 👍
I LOVE my Glock 42. It is so smooth, very little kick, incredibly accurate out to 75 feet (I haven't had the opportunity to shoot at a longer distance yet) and it's is so easy to conceal. I specifically wanted .380 and was ecstatic when Glock finally came out with the 42. Modern .380 ammo is powerful and I have completely confidence in it.
I love the little Glock 42, it's a great little pocket gun that fits in your pocket and is highly concealable. The 380 cartridge is a cartridge that keeps evolving; it is proving to be a great self-defense cartridge. This cartridge is great for new shooters or old-timers like myself.Just my opinion
better a 380 in the pocket then a 45 left at home
Sub to me
Amen
better a 45 in the pocket than a 380 left at home
@@Danlovestrivium The caliber you are using does not matter as much as the ability of the shooter using the weapon.
@scottiespain2291 It's clear that the intricacies of my comment were FAR over your head.
But, since you asked, my Glock 36 fits very comfortably within my coat pocket.
I have 3 glocks & the 42 has become my edc favorite! Love my g42
You nailed it. When we were choosing a smaller carry gun for my wife, I had lined up several subcompact nines and .380s (Shield, LC9, LCP, Kahr P380, Kahr PM9, XDS9, and Glock 42) at a rental range. My wife was indecisive until I had her do some controlled pairs, at which point she packed up the Glock42 and said, "This is my new gun, were done here."
As they get smaller and lighter in a given shooter and caliber, follow up shots and split times suffer. Shot placement and the ability to deliver fast, accurate follow up shots is much more important then caliber. A wise person recognizes their limitations and gets the gun they can truly "handle."
Does your wife provide oral stimulation?
Thanx for the vid Sootch. I carry the G42 everyday. I used to have the M&P BODYGUARD .380 but that was so uncomfortable to shoot that I started looking for another pocket pistol.
The first time I fired a G42 I LOVED IT! I think the reason why it is so shootable is the heavier slide and the recoil spring.
Sootch, love your reviews. You never condemn or put any gun down, you simply lay out the facts with intelligence. Keep up the great work.
We are the vocal minority when it comes to the Glock 42 being a .380. The huge amount of Glock 42s sold, proves that. When considering terminal ballistics and actual gun fights, available statistics show the .380 holds its own when compared to 9mm, .40. .45, ect. Shot placement will always be king. Again, statistics prove it. The only way to ensure 100% incapacitation is the destruction of the brain or spine. Anywhere else, it will come down to how determined your attacker is. There are plenty of stories from the battlefield that demonstrates this fact. This is why you fire until the threat no longer exist. I would argue capacity over caliber any day, and all day. I do believe many attach their ego to the caliber they carry. Yet, they have no problem handing a .380 to their Wife, Daughter, Mother, ect. Showing the egotistical hypocrisy many operate under.
An experienced shooter is an experienced shooter. My Wife carries a G26.
shot placement is key yes but do you think that every shot is 100% dead on what you aim? no offcouse not bigger the caliber is more effective, just like getting poke with a neddle on your hand or a nail offcouse is not going to kill you but sure you rather get poke with a needle, if i can hit 100% i would just carry the smallest cal i can find.
There is no "but". The historical data is there. All you have to do, is read it.
Trevor Hollibaugh you would lose a capacity argument too.
***** idk why that comment is directed at me. I agree that a 9mm is a better carry option, unless .380 is the absolute most recoil you can accurately handle. However, the difference in recoil is so negligible, the amount of people that fit in that category is close to zero.
+UA-cam Police,
The .380 IS a 9mm! It's a 9mm Kurz (short).
.380 = 9x17
9mm = 9x19
As far as .380 ball vs .380 hollow points for self defense goes....let's remember, it was the ineffective ball round that gave the .380 it's poor reputation as a man stopper. It's only due to the advancements in .380 hollow point technology that has brought the round back as a decent defense choice.
Ballistic gel tells the story. I’ll stay with the 380. Shot placement is key on any caliber
I'm convinced that glock came out with the 42 to sell more guns. They want people to buy twice. One in.380 and again in 9mm. If they came out with the 9mm first they wouldn't sell as many .380.
I TOTALLY agree. You took the words right out of my keyboard. Glock is in the business of selling guns, and ultimately making as much profit as possible. I knew as soon as they released the 42 as a .380 that it was a marketing ploy. I will pass on the 42 until the single stack 9mm comes out and they get the inevitable bugs worked out.
I wonder how many people were hoping for a 9mm and then bought a S&W Shield instead when they found out the G42 was a .380.
bad8531 that's exactly what I did no sense in waiting for something that's already available from S&W
I bought an xds 9mm after I heard that the g42 was a .380. It's a little chunkier than the Shield, and bigger than a g42 for sure, but the quality is outstanding. If the 9mm single stack offering from Glock is very close to the dimensions of the g42, then I may consider buying it. If it's too much bigger than the g42, then I'll just stick with my xds.
I'm definitely not a glock hater and I don't think they are overpriced. If they come out with a single stack 9mm I'll probably buy it. I don't love the gun, but it is reliable, accurate, light, easy to use, reasonably priced. I personally hate the way they look, but trust my life with them.
A 380 is most useful in situations and in locations where you are not supposed to have a gun
Small pocket guns handle better with 380. 9mm is a bit snappy in small pistols. Shoot them side by side in similar size guns. The 380 gives you much faster follow up shots.
I like the G42 and think it's a good gun and would recommend it even. If you dont mind the extra cost of .380 ammo or you dont shoot alot then the G42 is a great option. But because i shoot alot and with the release of the Ruger Lc9s pro, which is so close in size and only 4oz heavier, I decided to sell my G42 and go with the Ruger. Great points on the G42 sootch00
.380 = 9x17mm - 9mm = 9x19mm The improvement in ammo have made this caliber relevant! I feel if we rename the .380 cartridge to 9x17mm it would increase in popularity
The data shows that the .380 is as likely to stop the threat as any other pistol caliber. Pistols are not rifles or shotguns. Like other people have said, shot placement is the key. What the 9mm Luger really has over the .380 is the cost of ammunition.
"What the 9mm Luger really has over the .380 is the cost of ammunition."
Well, that and every other measurable advantage.
380 will still kill. Idk what the big deal is every gun doesn't have to wipe somebody out every time. If a threat was approaching, I think this would back them up just the same as the 43 would. Of course 9mm packs a bigger punch nobody wants to take a 380 bullet to the face or anywhere else for that matter
Not at all! The G42 is smaller than the G43, but most importantly of all, this gun SHOOTS MUCH BETTER!! Way more accurate follow up shots with less recoil. Plus this could be pocket carried (not the easiest, but doable).
I'm considering a G42 myself.
@Jon Gotti I"m thinking about it yeah, but I've got a CM9 and while I do trust Glock's design more than Kahr's in general. I have put 400+ rounds through my CM9 without a single issue, so I have a reliable one. CM9 is also smaller than the G42 actually while still retaining the 9MM...
Got me a G43X though :)
Hey sootch I luv the videos bro, I'm disabled but not in a way that I can't have a CCW because I do, I always carry a Walther PPK in .380acp, I wish I could shoot a 9mm but I'm just l bit too recoil sensitive so I have been wishing for GLOCK to make a .380 for over 10 years and it finally came in the 42, and it's the best gun in the world for ME, not for many but for me it fits like a glove, and with the low mag capacity that I also love because IF THE BAD GUY WILL OVERPOWER ME AND TAKE MY GUN, HE WILL HAVE TO BEAT ME TO DEATH WITH IT BECAUSE IT WILL BE EMPTY! Quote of a great man. Thank you tom s. Colorado
No mistake at all. Stellar carry pistol with the correct ammo...
First I wanna say I love your channel..Just wanted to chime in and say that while the 38 spl has less energy than the 9mm, it's is closer to the 9 than the 380 acp..and when you get to hot + p rounds, the gap closes even more. The 9 and 38 spl are basically ballistic twins and the caliber that is a little closer to a 380 would be the 9mm makarov..38 special loaded with one of it's more powerful + p rounds easily matches a standard 9mil, and at times can match some of the better 9mm rounds. As you know, the 38 can be loaded far heavier than the 380, and even with a heavy weaker 38 bullet at a lower velocity it still penetrates deeper than that off the 380. A round from Buffalo Bore, or Remington Golden Sabre, or another good quality hollow pt out of even the shortest barrel of a 38 would far out perform the 380. Sorry for the story lol. Great video as always.
Remember Glock Is in the business to sell guns.They research the market to see where their biggest opportunity to take market share. They figured it out with the G42 I can't say enough good things about it. Thanks for all of your great reviews.
Did Glock make a mistake? Hell no!
Years after the 42 & 43 came out I own the 43, 43X & 48 which are great handguns however as I've CCW for years now with 9mm,40 & 45 I find myself in need of a Glock 42 for it's slim profile because a small pistol carried is far better than a larger gun left at home cause sometimes just too inconvenient to carry a bigger handgun.
I want one for some reason. I have a LCP 2, a Shield 9mm, and a XD mod.2 45 ACP subcompact. I have all my concealed carry situations covered basically, yet I really want this gun.
Thanks for another great video Sooch. I love it when all the egos crawl out from under their respective rocks with all their opinions. No .380 doesn't pack quite the punch of 9mm, but neither does .38 out of a very short barrel. Many will boast that .380 is ineffective, while autopsy reports will state quite the contrary. History also attributes the assassination of Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand as spark that lead up to World War I. Ferdinand and wife were killed with a .380. Two shots, two kills. Sounds effective to me. The dimensions of the 42 makes for a .380 handgun that's easily handled by someone who might not be able to handle a similar size 9mm. Doesn't sound like a mistake to me.
I've owned just about every micro 380 out there and the Glock 42 is by far my favorite.
The original James Bond Walther PPK was .32ACP
Bond's .32ACP Walther PPK replaced his original gun, a Beretta 918 in .25ACP. Bond hated the Walther at first and really missed his Beretta.
Great comparison and analysis on the 42 and its competition....I think you addressed the question the video poses as well as it could be done. Sure, lots of us asked 'why not a nine?'. Well, it'll probably come, but in the meantime when you compare the shootabilty, reliability, and portability of the 42 to pretty much every other choice out there, maybe the 'point' of the 42 is that it just happens to be the best choice in .380 to be had.
Glock does it again.
You have no idea how much your end bloopers and mess ups have helped me in the creation of the content for my channel. Thank you for including that Mr Sootch.
Own A Glock 42. Got it Blue Label $319.00. Love this little weapon. Bought 1000 rounds of ammo on sale for $13.00 a box . So far haven't had a bit of trouble, she eats all I feel her. Goes bang every time. Not looking forward to shooting anyone, but I'm sure if I had to, they won't be happy!
The Glock 42 is very easy to shoot and very accurate.
This is an older video . The .380 underwood is as good AS good as any basic 9mm. right. Have you seen this ammo?
Technical Information
Caliber: 380 ACP
Bullet Weight: 90 Grains
Bullet Style: Lehigh Defense Xtreme Penetrator
Case Type: Brass
Ballistics Information:
Muzzle Velocity: 1100 fps
Muzzle Energy: 242 ft. lbs.
Really good stuff. Has me buying more .380's Hey it was good enough for Europe ..and now with this load.
Thank you for all your great videos.
Mark
I work at a gun shop and I just recently started looking at the 42. Im looking for a gun to use in a ankle holster and the 42 fits the bill to me.
Im an infantryman and am an expert shooter on any caliber. I’d say caliber doesn’t really matter as long as you train and train with what you got. Shot placement, trigger discipline and reaction to contact is an ability you should train as much as you can and for personal defense a well trained person will outperform your run of the mill enemy. Always train as if you’re training to outperform the enemy cause someone somewhere us training to get you, outperform them
blah blah blah. lol! come back to earth.
Thank you for explaining sir, and when glock makes the PERFECT single stack 9 gun enthusiasts won't be talking about nothing else. Besides people always wanted the 380 glock, but due to regulations we couldn't have them in the country. Great vid
My wife just bought a G42.She has carried a LCP for the past two years.Now she has trained to shoot it well, its took her about 900rd to be proficient with it.The glock 42 fits her hands like a G19 would yours and mine.And she can shoot it very well.Ive been prepping her on the glock trigger with my G26gen3.And in my opinion the pocket 380s are a shoot and run gun.And the glock seems more like a stand your ground gun.All so from what Ive heard. Ammunition manufacturers only make 380acp for a few mounth then swicth over to 9mm.And thats why there hard to find and expensive.But who knows!.Good video like allways.
Interesting perspective and I agree with you. The Glock 42 was not what I was hoping it was when released at shot show in 2014 but like you I think it was market driven as well as product development. Even if Glock was to release a single stack 9mm in today, I would wait at least a year. Till then I will continue to carry my Shield for low profile carry and G19 Gen 3 otherwise. Thanks for the info.
Great info and comparos, especially with other CC 9s. Thanks for taking the time to add to your other G42 vid!
In my personal opinion. most times than not, its the user and not the firearm itself that will dictate how effective they are with the firearm. These .380 micro pistols are for close up and personal self defense. Not for long distance shooting. Seven maybe 10 yds max I would say.
Switched from Bersa Thunder to the 42 today. I’m impressed so far
You mentioned it would take a lot of engineering and machining to make a single stack 9mm, yet EVERY other major firearm manufactures has had them for years. Kahr, S&W, Springfield,Walter, etc. Even if Glock came out with a single stack 9mm, I wouldn't buy one. Just don't have a need with all of the other great options.
I watched a youtube vid of some guy shooting his 380 at the side of cow beef with bones and all, and I thought "Damn, I wouldn't want to get hit with that"
I was glad to see you roll in the Mustang. My mom carried a mustang+2 for years, and my dad has one of the new Mustangs that he carries. I bought one of the older Mustangs that has been to Cylinder & Slide. Shooting it with the stippled frame and Novak sights makes it a totally different animal. My mom switched to a Sig P938 Edge recently, and it is impressive. It is almost identical to our mustangs, only in 9mm, and has much better factory sights.
I know it's probably been said, but I heard it was because they're trying to move a lot of 380s for a high price before they release the 9mm because they know that after that point, it'll be mostly 9mm and 380 will be low demand.
A excellent video on the glock 42 380acp the best ammunition is 380acp ball armmo in 90 gr.this gun is hard to find if you see one buy it 💯👍
Sootch00 the problem with some of the logic presented regarding Glcok providing a single stack 9mm pistol is that S&W has given us the shield, Walther with the PPQ and Springfield provided a single stack .45. I believe that it was all market driven and that they didn't want to compete with those offerings. IMHO.
I don't understand why they couldn't cram an extra couple rounds in the 42...the witness holes go all they way to the bottom in a g17 mag! Did they forget how they fit the spring in there? the g42 is larger than an LCP, it should hold a couple more rounds if you ask me.
we shoot both bersa thunder and glock 42. while the bersa is more "fun" and has more personality (not to mention more accurate)... the reliability ain't there. not the rounds. but the parts. the bersa chips, snags, magazine springs go bunk, sights fall off...etc. the glock is just more a gun we trust to use for carry. at the range... we love bersa. hands down. for carry? 42. hands up! haha. (also great video btw. we love your work. - we being wife and I. we got into shooting about 2 years ago and got a lot of our recommendations and ideas by watching your stuff)
I bought a g42 instead of a g43 because follow up shots.
good quality, thoughtful. Looks like you were right on a number of points of speculation as things have developed
Glock 42 may have been Glocks best seller for 2014, but I would be willing to bet the Smith&Wesson Shield out sold Glock 42 by leaps and bounds because it fits the bill for what MOST people wanted from Glock and they didn't deliver, a slim, single stack, reliable 9MM.
The Glock 43 9mm is just a hair bigger than the G42 .380ACP.
I bought the G42 as soon as it came out. I thought it was a good shooter but I did have some FTE/FTF issues. I ended up selling the pistol and will probably get the XDs9 as a replacement. I got rid of all my 380's b/c the price of ammo is ridiculous. If the price was at least equal to 9mm, I would still have my S&W Bodyguard.
380 ACP is in the same price range as 9mm Luger. It’s just as cheap, or even cheaper than 9mm Luger. Currently 380 ACP is 17¢/ round, & 9mm Luger is 19¢/ round.
I think the Glock 42 pretty good idea it's a little bit bigger than most 380 pocket pistols which yeah it's bigger but it also gives you a better grip less recoil and 380 is a week round but if you choose the right defensive ammo it's a good setup
Hello to you again,
Words well spoken, I can incorporate this small arm into my daily life, being a beginner and learner into the carry world.
Well said
I have the 42, love it.
Just ordered a Walther PPS.
And I'll buy Glocks SS9 when they're ready.
I think the main "problem" with. 380 is the typical microscopic pistols firing them, rather than the round itself. I say this because on a recent range trip, my wife put an entire magazine (8 rds) into the bullseye with her Walther PK 380, and immediately followed with her Smith and Wesson Bodyguard. 380. Out of 6 rounds, she got only 3 even on paper, but none in the black. The miniscule Bodyguard, while easier for her to purse carry, was so difficult to shoot, that the safest place to be was in front of the target! We sold the BG 380, and she went back to carrying the Walther. The weight and size of the Walther are about the same as my Smith and Wesson M&P Shield 9 mm. I'd be interested in seeing a comparison between the Walther PK 380 & the Glock 42. The thing that sold her on Walther was its excellent ergonomics and the incredible ease with which she could rack the slide. But after a while, she began to complain about its weight, so we bought the Smith and Wesson Bodyguard. 380 for her edc. I wonder if the weight and size combination of the Glock 42 mightn't be the best route for her. By the way, we're a couple of old codgers, and she doesn't have a great amount of upper body strength, so being able to easily any rack the slide is important. She did shoot my Smith and Wesson J Frame (442), but didn't like it. Any suggestions? Thanks.
Dissing the 380. Is only something that happens on the internet, when I tell someone in person honestly i always have the LCP max with me 12+1 of 380 they don’t laugh about it I just enjoy lightweight and low recoil especially in the summer.
I'll admit I was a little disappointed when Glock released a pocket pistol chambered in .380 until I actually held one in my hands. It literally took just a split second for me to be sold on it and I don't regret picking up the model 42 which I still carry today. When the 43 came out, I tried it and really didn't see the need to buy that one since the 42 was already filling my need for a very concealable pistol. When I go to the range, I shoot my Glock 19 and then fire off a few rounds from my 42 and handle it with ease.
Thank you for a great review. It's on my list. LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!
I sold a Kahr PM40 to get this Glock. I took a loss on the Kahr, but gained a gun I actually enjoyed shooting. The end result is more range time with one of my CCW weapons, and that's always a plus.
From a former Glock rep, the release of the 42 first is a business decision. They are selling the crap out of the 42s, our LE dealer still has a long waiting list.
Once sales slow, the 9mm will be released and they will sell the crap out of those.
If you release them in reverse or at the same time, do you think they will sell as many guns? Nope.
Business decision, period.
Outstanding presentation. Appreciate the video bloopers. Thanks again and definitely... long live the Republic!
I wouldn't mind carrying the 42 as a back-up. Also at 10:06 don't forget about one of the most overlooked .380's IMO which is the Bersa Thunder 380 Plus (please please please do a review on one!). It has a 15 shot double stack mag, and is pretty damn reliable. Maybe it's not the best size for CC, but hey, I know people that carry 1911's and Glock 34's on a regular basis. Good vid as always. Carry on.
Hello sootch. Glock is also offering this model to countries where military type cartridges are prohibited from civilian use. i was watching a news report in peru where civilians can only own up to a 380 or 38 special. Surprisingly there is a surge in gun ownership in peru and women over there are leading the charge.
Love my 42 for the extra light outfits!
Glock may have waited too late. I was in the market for a single stack 9mm right around the time that the M&P Shield came out with the external safety delete model so I bought one. Between then and now Ruger has come out with the LC9s Pro.... striker fired, no external safety, no magazine safety and no loaded chamber indicator. Now I'm a big Ruger fan and really like the ergos of the Ruger LC9 but this M&P Shield is sweet and I see no need to replace it with anything else. Not even a Glock.
There are a bunch of single-stack 9mm pistols that can be carried in a reasonable-sized pants pocket. Ruger, Kel-Tec, Kahr, and Beretta, to name a few, all make pocket 9s. Glock is not even competing in this market.
I had a tiny .380. It didn't work properly, and it shot patterns rather than groups, so I sold it. I don't miss it.
One aspect not brought out is that alot of the .380çal are BB in operation/action. Glock kept the locked breech design that I feel kept the weight down. Thanks very good video and my G42 is up to Mod-3 on the magazine, although I've never had an issue, bought mine in early 2014. Being a new production line, in a new location due to export-laws, one could have expected some line problems. As you mentioned, the NEW CONCEALED CARRY market has exploded politically and most of those were and are not avid shooters, so release of the .380cal when they did was adventitious to get in and stay in the lower caliber market. Again, good video.
It's all about the bullet. The .380 shoots the same size bullet as the 9mm and if a 95 grain Underwood Xtreme Defender will go through 24 gauge sheet metal, denim, auto glass, and wood and still get 14-20" of penetration leaving a typical Xtreme Defender wound channel (which is bigger than Federal HST out of a 9mm)... then you don't need 9mm anymore. Make a 10 round mag for the Glock 42 and use Underwood and you have a smaller more manageable 9mm. The only downside is the capacity.
In my opinion, the G42 will be very popular especially amongst small frame people (women and men) with smaller hands. I do not own one, but pondered it last weekend at a local gun show. I already own a S&W Bodyguard and Ruger LC9 for deep concealment situations and love both of those for their own reasons. The G42 seems very concealable and feels exceptional in my medium size hand. I carry Lehigh Defense Maximum Expansion rounds in my 380, 9mm and .45 ACP handguns with maximum confidence. Caliber does matter to me, but with proper ammunition and practice 380 is an effective round. I hope I never have to use it for self defense, but after testing and practicing what I carry, I feel good about it.
GLOCK showed a lot of marketing savvy in choosing to release the 380 before the 9mm.
First because women and smaller men want 380, second because if the 9mm were released first many of them would not buy a 380 and third because a lot of people will buy both, which they would not do if a 9mm of the same size were released first.
The frame on the 9mm does not need to be any larger than the 380, it just has to be a little stronger in a couple of places in order to handle the stresses of recoil, but by no means any more massive.
Very good review as always, thank-you.
Just got one 3 weeks ago...love it.
Up close and personal the .380 will do the job, and it WILL kill your standard perp.
That being said, the 9mm will do a much better job of ensuring you're safer as the damage being done per round to your attacker will be greater, and expanded.
I don't think there is too much of a difference between a 9mm and a .45acp, but there is enough of a difference between 9mm and .380acp from what I've read overall.
Edit: And if Glock doesn't come out with a 9mm that is of similar size to the 42; then they have missed the mark for me. Something to compete with a Kahr CM9/PM9 is what would turn my head.
380 will kill a man just as easy as 9mm. Same with 32 acp. Well placed shots that count are deadly and any shots on target will discourage most attackers.
Kel Tec's PF9 is (supposedly) even thinner at 0.88" than the 0.94" GLOCK 42. I'm not convinced slide width is the issue. Great vid though, thanks for your work!
When Kahr came out with the PM9, which was in 2001, I always wondered why the hell doesn’t Glock make something like this! Especially since Glock came out with the Slimline G36 in .45acp in 99/00. Always thought it was some government regulation crap.
I watch all your stuff, I like it all but this has to be my favorite yet. bravo. I love my 42. Glock guts have been very reliable for me, and they add an extra round per mag with stock baseplate. I also slapped on rubber-talon grips and truglow big dots. Rides in my MTac holster everywhere I go. Love it. Thanks for your hard work on vid.
Appreciate your input. Informative for me..
People should be careful for what the wish for.... I own a LCP and trust me running the first 200 rounds through it to get it broken in became painful. There is just no weight to these small guns to help bear the burden of recoil - its all on the shooter. So knowing how .380 in a very small frame feels, I cannot imagine how it will feel to fire 9 mm through the same size frame. While it might make a nice carry gun, it will not be something you want to take to the range very often. As maintaining proficiency on your weapon is one of the cornerstones of proper self defense posture, this is not a small issue. BTW, a Hogue grip improved the feel of the LCP a lot!
ive had success with the kahr cm9. long trigger but thats fine. i think the shield is probably the way to go if you want a small 9mm
I'd like to see and hear your impressions of the LC9s striker fired model....I've got one and LOVE it....I no longer carry my shield.
People are still complaining about this? If you want a tiny .380 get the Khar CW380/P380. If you want a small single stack 9mm get the S&W Shield.
It's all about placement.
It’s funny always someone saying that 380 , 22, 32 all the smaller calibers aren’t affective but know one willing to take two to the chest to prove that point! Just saying .
Funny my 1st semi auto was a 380 acp. Us 380 guys are show stoppers. CCW 👑.
Kahr gets a 9mm in to a gun smaller than the G42 and only a couple ounces heavier. The slide is 0.90" wide - thinner than the G42. Street prices on CM9s are lower than G42s most of the time too. Putting a 9mm in a gun this size would not be a groundbreaking feat of engineering for Glock.
Sootch00 you have great videos !! but love the bloopers at the end !! oh to be human !! stay strong !!
The G42 is a great personal defense pistol.
Point well made, generally speaking that is true but Shooting the bull has made some great ballistics gel videos of .380 hollowpoints.
With the release of Ruger's LC9S Pro I don't need to hold my breath anymore. Even if they did release it I don't think I would pick it up or many others because of their delay into the market. I will stick with them for my fall/winter carry months with my G19 however.
Thanks for the info on the glock 42.I was having some issues with feed,I did change my ammo to round bullet and that seem to solve the problem,however I'll am still returning it to glock for a complete check over.Problem may be the magazine as you mentioned.
Use sig ammo
I just bought a 42 to add to my collection.. I do intend to carry it as I have been carrying my Bersa Thunder 380. 380 ACP is a far better choice in a small gun in my opinion. I am far from recoil shy as I do carry an SP101 357 Magnum 3" also (and is my preferred choice) but just like 38 special, 9 mm loses power with the smaller barrels just like any other cartridge but is still snappy as opposed to the 380.. Is 9 still more powerful? Sure it is but in such a small gun, shot placement increases its importance so might as well go with a much easier handling cartridge. Just my 2 cents...
+Johnny Vasquez Excellent 2 cents. I own one and find it to be an outstanding firearm. As we all know (or should), self defense against a threat is very up close, and damn near in you face. A.380 round is really a down sized 9mm. It definitely fills the bill to eliminate that threat quickly. Whether it be one shot one kill, or six shots one kill. The idea is to still be standing when its over.
Glock didn't make a mistake, the 42 is outstanding.
The 43 will also be outstanding.
i would guess for most shooters, at 50 yards you would get more kills with a .380 than you would a .50
i'd still feel more comfortable with a desert eagle on my hip :)