Firearms Expert Reacts To Battlefield 2042’s Guns PART 3

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  • @JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries
    @JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries Рік тому +861

    If I may clarify my comment on the 'K' marking on the G36C - it's a C model i.e. 'Compact', so we would not expect it to have a K ('Kurz')-marked receiver. The obvious explanation is that it was built on a K receiver with a semi-auto only trigger group and C barrel, handguard and carrying handle - but UK police do not use the K so it's a bit odd. (NB - edited from my original comment as I made an actual mistake in that one!)

    • @derekp2674
      @derekp2674 Рік тому +19

      Hi Jonathan, I'm not sure what the difference is between C and K versions. However I know the UK Civil Nuclear Constabulary like to use the short versions of the G36. I've just found a FOI request response that lists the types of firearms in their inventory - including both C and K models. Let me know if you'd like me to email you the link.

    • @TheName123456789
      @TheName123456789 Рік тому +7

      @@derekp2674 The C variant has his use for close Engagement situations where you want the length of an Machine pistol/ Personal Defence Weapon but need the Fire Power of a Full Rifle. The down side is the G36C hase its wweaknesses on long range entgaments. Compared to the Stamdart G36 and G36K.
      G36K sitz between the G36 and the G36C, so for the BF 2042 game it would make more sence to include the G36K.
      I personaly think a Police Unit would rather take the G36C for hig risk Arrests. Since normaly Police would not have to engage on ranges above 100m.
      The G36K is a "bether" version of the G36.
      Forgot to mention that the G36K Variant is slightly sorter then the G36 but not as short as the G36C.
      But on the side of HK you can see the difrence clearly.
      I hope im not to wrong.

    • @jehoiakimelidoronila5450
      @jehoiakimelidoronila5450 Рік тому +8

      The K variant is the carbine version of the full size G36. Meanwhile the C variant is the much shorter version & further development of the K variant

    • @ntb_cheerios2316
      @ntb_cheerios2316 Рік тому +4

      Hello Jonathan, you're exactly right in your analysis. The only thing i would like to add is it appears to have a K stock. The full length g36 and the K have the same length stock while the C had a slightly shorter one. Little hard to tell from video but its also possible it was originally a fully built K that had the barrel, hand guard, and trigger pack swapped out. Hope this helps!

    • @peterclarke7006
      @peterclarke7006 Рік тому +3

      @@jehoiakimelidoronila5450 I suspect the issue isn't to do with the length of the barrel, but the marking on the receiver.
      Jonathan knows what the G36 varients are (he's the Keeper of Firearms at the Royal Armouries in Leeds, etc, in case you weren't aware). His point is the receiver and the barrel are off different models, but not for the usual reasons of changing the trigger group from select-fire (Military) to semi-auto (Law Enforcement).

  • @patrikhjorth3291
    @patrikhjorth3291 Рік тому +557

    Considering how often the Desert Eagle comes up in this context, do you think the Royal Armouries could justify having one permanently signed out to Jonathan? For demonstration purposes, of course.

    • @derekp2674
      @derekp2674 Рік тому +37

      I'm sure they would but Jonathan might not want to be lumbered with having to carry it around everywhere.

    • @peterclarke7006
      @peterclarke7006 Рік тому +49

      Preferably so every episode there's a brief video of Jonathan daintily dropping it into a wastepaper basket and then patiently explaining why a 9mm is better in any situation that doesn't involve an extremely unimpressed bear.

    • @HomicideJack187
      @HomicideJack187 Рік тому +10

      @@derekp2674 Owning the L5 lightweight variant myself, I can confirm this. It's a brick.

    • @patrikhjorth3291
      @patrikhjorth3291 Рік тому +6

      Well, maybe some kind of carrying contraption could be devised, that would allow him to carry it more easily. A kind of pouch hung from his belt, or strapped to the side of the torso perhaps.
      I'm sure somebody at the Armouries could come up with such a thing.

    • @derekp2674
      @derekp2674 Рік тому

      @@patrikhjorth3291 Isn't that called a holster?

  • @scarecrow443
    @scarecrow443 Рік тому +270

    Gunther is a running joke from the german face in Battlefield 5. Gunther kinda just became a meme in the community and he showed back up in the portal mode as the default face for a german player model

    • @endymionselene165
      @endymionselene165 Рік тому +1

      The wrestler?

    • @scarecrow443
      @scarecrow443 Рік тому +40

      @@endymionselene165 no, a character model in the game from Battlefield 5.

    • @SquibbeyJenkins
      @SquibbeyJenkins Рік тому +12

      I was happy to see him back in 2042 🫡

    • @Nugcon
      @Nugcon Рік тому +2

      Gunther my beloved

  • @MrGrimsmith
    @MrGrimsmith Рік тому +124

    Just an FYI regarding the General Dynamics RM277R - it used a different cartridge from the MCX Spear that was much lower chamber pressure and polymer cased. One of the big selling points was how much lighter a standard ammo load would be (30% IIRC) and that they didn't need the same chamber pressure as others to reach the required range. I was rooting for the bullpup myself as they just make so much sense :)

    • @usernamunavailiable
      @usernamunavailiable Рік тому +8

      Yep, it was True Velocity's 6.8TVCM.

    • @hawkeye7527
      @hawkeye7527 Рік тому

      It's a travesty that Sig won the contract. Another AR platform, only even heavier now!

    • @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
      @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Рік тому

      @@hawkeye7527 Different AR.

    • @hailexiao2770
      @hailexiao2770 Рік тому

      @@ittapupu7406 Because General Dynamics is clearly just two guys in a shed who started bashing out bicycle parts 3 years ago.

  • @burr6303
    @burr6303 Рік тому +317

    I absolutely love that Jonathan referred to himself as a connoisseur of bull pups. Complete unintended giga Chad this man is.

    • @CertMediocre
      @CertMediocre Рік тому +60

      He literally wrote a book on bullpups.

    • @Fadaar
      @Fadaar Рік тому +10

      @@CertMediocre hahaha yeah no kidding, him and Ian are two of my absolute favorite people on youtube

    • @waygyanba2195
      @waygyanba2195 Рік тому +5

      Considering how much the weapon designer loves his bullpups.... That's something they both will have to fight over.

    • @Cheesepuff8
      @Cheesepuff8 Рік тому +3

      @@CertMediocreI think maybe THE book on Bullpups

    • @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
      @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Рік тому +1

      @@CertMediocre Specifically on British Bullpups, even more specifically from the Thornycroft to the SA-80, even more more specifically with a beautiful red cover as an option :)

  • @huunhanle3809
    @huunhanle3809 Рік тому +337

    I'm glad to hear Dave's voice again, when the world needed him most, he came.

  • @vonvard
    @vonvard Рік тому +93

    Say this on every video and not going to stop any time soon. Jonathan needs some recognition on the honours list soon. National treasure

    • @destrega3316
      @destrega3316 Рік тому

      The what list?

    • @vonvard
      @vonvard Рік тому +2

      @destrega3316 it's the annual British honours from the King. You get them for services to society. OBE's, Sir, Dame etc

  • @officegossip
    @officegossip Рік тому +34

    He’s the only expert that actually plays video games which makes him a lot more interesting to listen to because he acknowledges the liberties that a game has to take to make the weaponry balanced in a fictional digital environment.

  • @jonathancandra8190
    @jonathancandra8190 Рік тому +90

    The RPL-20 (RPT-31 in game) is actually firing the 5.45x39 mm cartridge. It's designed as the new SAW to replace the RPK-74M.

    • @knrz2562
      @knrz2562 Рік тому +3

      Replace?!.😢😮

    • @invictusangelica
      @invictusangelica Рік тому +15

      @@knrz2562 Yes, because belt fed = more ammo = longer continuous fire.

    • @invictusangelica
      @invictusangelica Рік тому +6

      So far this thing and the Kord 5.45mm were in testing and the Russian military haven't shown much interest about it considering that they have the PKP already.

    • @jackhandsome1160
      @jackhandsome1160 Рік тому +2

      @@invictusangelica 'cause it's not for the army, but for the Police

    • @invictusangelica
      @invictusangelica Рік тому +5

      @@jackhandsome1160 Usually I would ask why cops or even the FSB need a belt fed MG but since it's Russia, I guess it's just that

  • @ChenAnPin
    @ChenAnPin Рік тому +80

    4:44 The RM68 appears to have two kinds of reload animation/sequence. The one Jonathan noted using the right hand to replace the magazine is for a partial reload for when the gun isn't completely empty. The "correct" with using the left hand to reload is for when the gun has emptied its entire magazine and thus using the left hand after putting in a fresh magazine then follows up with pulling the charging handle.

    • @jareddegraw8719
      @jareddegraw8719 Рік тому

      Noticed the same.

    • @HappyMan0203
      @HappyMan0203 Рік тому +16

      Yeah I noticed that as well. I think it's to add some visual variety to the reloads.

    • @MrTeddy12397
      @MrTeddy12397 Рік тому +9

      which makes it even more dumb than usual, taking your hand off the trigger in the exact situation where you would need it there in case you have to use the single round left in the chamber.

    • @cheesecake4lyfe196
      @cheesecake4lyfe196 Рік тому +1

      it might have also be done to elongate the partial reload to keep all the timings the same, which is a weird decision from a gameplay perspective but would make animation variation implementation easier. From an artistic perspective the animations in the more recent BF games are super clean and weighty, they've done a great job in that department.

    • @sourlemon3337
      @sourlemon3337 Рік тому +1

      @@dickizzinya9085 the rm277 in mw2 has that as well. For some reason they turned the magazine release buttons near the trigger into the bolt release, despite the gun having a unique bolt release on the right side. The rm277 in mw2 only has the rear magazine release button. A really silly design decision tbh.

  • @darthcerebus
    @darthcerebus Рік тому +40

    All I need is a breakdown of Killzone's weapons just to see how much sense he can make of it, and to see some Killzone representation on the internet again.

    • @Mazorzarch
      @Mazorzarch Рік тому +11

      Have a bump for the Killzone algorithm.
      I miss that series.

    • @stephencollins9062
      @stephencollins9062 Рік тому +1

      One of my favourite games

  • @NinjahDuk
    @NinjahDuk Рік тому +16

    As a G36C fan, I am very glad to see one anywhere I go. Also as a side note on the PF51 (P50), the game actually mentions it is originally a semi automatic weapon that's been modified for automatic fire. Which is nice.
    I also did not know the XCE Bar was a real gun, very cool.

    • @dangluan92
      @dangluan92 Рік тому +3

      Its real name is XCEED from Tec-Target-Schneider

  • @wildwavesairsoft
    @wildwavesairsoft Рік тому +70

    Regarding the grenade launcher I’m pretty sure the games excuse is that the shell is like split in half so it houses two projectiles… even though the firing pin would have to modified for that to work.

    • @44R0Ndin
      @44R0Ndin Рік тому +21

      Probably something similar to the 3GL that came from the Metal Storm program, which is a 3 shot 40mm grenade launcher that uses the superposed load principle and electric priming in combination to produce a grenade launcher where you can fire 3 times before you need to replace the WHOLE barrel assembly.

    • @codmanout9861
      @codmanout9861 Рік тому +3

      @@44R0Ndin That's what I was going to say. If you look at the shell when it is loaded, the front looks like it is split in two, so I am guessing that the in-game explanation is that it is an electronically fired cartridge that fires half of the shell per shot.

    • @enderborn017
      @enderborn017 6 місяців тому

      Apparently there were a few blackpowder revolvers that worked like that. I was hoping he'd see the description and comment on that

    • @wildwavesairsoft
      @wildwavesairsoft 6 місяців тому +1

      update in the game it now only fires one shot per loaded cartridge....

  • @patrickbo2045
    @patrickbo2045 Рік тому +86

    Jonathan, the "K" in G36K means "kurz" or short. It's just the german designation for the short carbine model.
    Also as a german, I don't mind american guns being attributed to us! =)

    • @TotallyNotAFox
      @TotallyNotAFox Рік тому +21

      The K and C are different models though, with the K having a longer barrel and doesn't come with a picatinny rail by default

    • @knrz2562
      @knrz2562 Рік тому +2

      Aw nice3

    • @forzikt
      @forzikt Рік тому

      i thought it is Karabiner or Carbine, meaning assault carbine

    • @littlemouseboi5965
      @littlemouseboi5965 Рік тому +1

      @@forzikt No, the C was used to mean Carbine in G36c, since they had made the G36k prior to it, which used Kurz instead of Karabiner because, and I can only assume, it wasn't short enough to call a carbine.

  • @reubenritchie6254
    @reubenritchie6254 Рік тому +14

    There is a very experimental coilgun in the commercial market. Ian from Forgotton Weapons did a video on it. Would be interesting to see Jonathan react to it

    • @InsaneCarverUpqik
      @InsaneCarverUpqik Рік тому

      theres also a different one that matt had on demoranch that shot steel discs

  • @AhegaoComics
    @AhegaoComics Рік тому +13

    One thing to note, is that handheld portable coil guns already exist. They may not be particularly useful or effective right now but Ian from Forgotten Weapons has done 2 videos on 2 coil guns.
    ua-cam.com/video/eAHKS0nVlL4/v-deo.html - GR-1 Anvil
    ua-cam.com/video/EwHRjgVWFno/v-deo.html - EMG-02

    • @liufi69
      @liufi69 Рік тому

      Had exact same thought.

  • @gregbarnes4083
    @gregbarnes4083 Рік тому +2

    With the SPH Explosive Launcher the reason given for 2 shots in game is that its actually 2 shots that are stacked and fired electronically (similar to how metal storm worked) with a standard rear case so it can be shot out of normal grenade launchers with no modification needed.

  • @ExecutorArtaris
    @ExecutorArtaris Рік тому +11

    I'd absolutle want to see Johnatan talk about the Deus Ex HR and MD weapons, since he mentioned again, and he mentioned like years ago that he played it and would be amazing to hear his opinion about it

  • @maximtkachow
    @maximtkachow Рік тому +13

    There IS a two-barreled grenade launcher. It's soviet-made ДП-64 «Непрядва» or DP-64 Nepryadva. It was made for sea use (surfaced submarines, ports, military ships and so on) against combat swimmers or other special forces. It is not 37 mm, though, the caliber is 45 mm, but that's okay, I guess :D

  • @livingcorpse5664
    @livingcorpse5664 Рік тому +15

    I was bummed the RM277 Amicus didn't win the Next Generation Squad Weapon program. Glad it is in video games though.
    The other companies you couldn't remember who worked on it was LoneStar Future Weapons. Which is now owned by True Velocity, who made the polymer cased rounds for it.

    • @s0meRand0m129
      @s0meRand0m129 Рік тому +1

      the gun is laser beam in BF2042 due to slow firing rate

  • @zbyszanna
    @zbyszanna Рік тому +5

    I think the proper nomenclature is "less lethal" as opposed to "less than lethal" now to underscore that those rounds can actually be lethal.
    Also, that Beretta/True Velocity bullpup is not canceled, it's being offered on the civilian market, so you have still a chance to shoot it! The idea and execution of the cartidge seems to be great so you should try it out if you have a chance.

  • @compaqdeskpro5770
    @compaqdeskpro5770 Рік тому +9

    Happy I found this series, always a good watch. I would like to see FEAR's weapons covered, its a good mix of real life but slightly off weapons and totally bizarre energy weapons.

  • @Taintedmini
    @Taintedmini Рік тому +5

    The railgun looks extremely similar to the GM 6 Lynx, the bullpup .50 BMG rifle. I immediately saw the similarity in the mag well and rear end, but upon comparing them, aside from the screen and battery assembly, it's a Lynx.

  • @NorthyPark
    @NorthyPark Рік тому +7

    One thing I was hoping to see brought up here is that for some strange reason the G36 has a 20 round capacity even tho its clearly the standard 30rnd one. And if you get the extended mag it still only goes up to 30, but first of all the mag itself looks weird, but it also looks like a 60rnd mag

    • @TheMusicftw1
      @TheMusicftw1 Рік тому +6

      Bf2042 is horrible when it comes to having correct magazine models and round count in them. It's been like that since it came out. Really weird thing to do

    • @titaniumwo1f390
      @titaniumwo1f390 Рік тому +3

      ​@@TheMusicftw1it has high power round as a default mag (less damage drop at longer range), and for sake of balance it default mag can hold 20 rounds, but the standard round with 30 rounds mag can be unlocked later.

  • @Tom_-
    @Tom_- Рік тому +4

    We already have hand held rail/coil guns. Ian fired one on Forgotten Weapons. It of course isn't very powerful and the pieces of steel rod it fired tended to tumble, but it's at least the beginnings of this firearms technology being a real thing.

  • @SuitsTheRedcoat
    @SuitsTheRedcoat Рік тому +47

    I wonder if Johnathan hasn't seen the ArcFlash coil gun that Ian covered on Forgotten weapons 10 months ago

    • @atlashugged2591
      @atlashugged2591 Рік тому +15

      I came here to wonder the same thing. He says that handheld coil and rainguns existing in the next 20 years is absurd. Meanwhile I'm like...both already exist. They're prototypes, sure, but they're surprisingly capable for prototypes. I fully believe that railguns and coilguns will see major strides in the next 20 years.

    • @daviddavidson2357
      @daviddavidson2357 Рік тому +12

      I was wondering the same thing.
      Maybe it's because the EMG-02 is extremely underpowered for it's size?
      It is a start though. I could see a coilgun like that in 20 years time. Better supercapacitors and batteries. Maybe superconducting coils too.

    • @SimonLandmine
      @SimonLandmine Рік тому +5

      Glad someone(s) else was going to ask this, too. :-)

    • @theVlKlNGR
      @theVlKlNGR Рік тому +15

      The point Johnathan makes about coil guns being rather unlikely is this:
      Carrying the power supply alone is an unreasonable burden for soldiers or military personnel (and will certainly be so in 20 years' time), considering the weight of regular equipment, which is seldom less than 30 kg. Batteries and electrical components in general are usually heavy and carry a certain potential danger for the user. Especially with the current doctrine of using unmanned equipment, such as drones, to keep the casualty rate as low as possible. A soldier who dies only brings something to the enemy side.
      I think it is more likely that we will move from projectile weapons directly to "energy beam weapons" than produce energy-loaded projectile weapons. But even that is still in an unpredictable future.
      Edit: Above all, a new weapon system must bring with it incredibly many more advantages than the existing ones. So here's the question: what does a modern M4 currently weigh with a loaded 30-round magazine plus the spare magazines in the vest carrier? Can the energy weapon undercut this weight and what other advantages does it bring me?
      We have all heard and read about burnt-out e-bikes and e-cars of all kinds and know how difficult these fires are to put out. I wouldn't want to carry a battery like that around in a combat situation. The projectiles that could potentially hit me are more than enough for me.

    • @derekp2674
      @derekp2674 Рік тому +10

      I'm sure Jonathan is aware of the ArcFlash coil guns but I think he was referring to EM guns capable of actually outperforming conventional "powder guns". As he hinted, a viable candidate threshold for that would require meeting or exceeding the performance of DMRs or anti-materiel rifles.
      The 10mm square bore railgun that I used to manage could accelerate 1 gram projectiles to around 3000 m/s but was powered by a room full of 8000 V capacitors. Our best ever firing rate was about 1 shot per week, but we were an aerospace research project, not a military technology development programme.
      Not least from current interests in electric vehicle developments, power supplies should be becoming more effective with regard to power per unit volume or per unit mass. But our experience was that power supply work was the least favourite part of the EM gun research, as seen by military funding agencies. That's why I really applaud the work that ArcFlash are doing.

  • @latewizard301
    @latewizard301 Рік тому +4

    seeing the Rorsch return as a MK4 is really cool, even though i don't think i will play 2042, i really like that detail!

  • @xpendabull
    @xpendabull Рік тому +15

    You can never wave around enough deagles, Jonathan.

  • @r2crowseye
    @r2crowseye Рік тому +2

    But Jonathon, we have handheld coil guns now! The huge prototype and smaller prototype Ian showcased earlier this year or last year.

  • @dark2023-1lovesoni
    @dark2023-1lovesoni Рік тому

    17:13 on disintegrating belts. There are plenty of firearms that use disintegrating belts that cannot allow a round driven forward. Most the the Browning belt feds (1919, M2, etc...) have links around the case bottle neck, so the round is extracted backwards and the link disintegrates anyway

  • @johnoneil9188
    @johnoneil9188 Рік тому +1

    What Jonathan is not aware of is that there actually already exists a prototype for a handheld coilgun. Ian from Forgotten Weapons has put out two videos about the very first iteration and an already improved version of it. It is still rather low power for a projectile weapon but it works.

  • @antiluckermd1956
    @antiluckermd1956 Рік тому +4

    G36 C (Carbine): 9inch barrel, 228mm, designed for police
    G36 K (Kurz): 12,5inch barrel, 318mm, designed for paratroopers, KSK, KSM

    • @TotallyNotAFox
      @TotallyNotAFox Рік тому +3

      How to quickly identify them: The K version has 4 holes while the C only has 2 above the barrel

  • @LordAnubisGaming
    @LordAnubisGaming Рік тому +3

    Jonathon mentions Deus Ex Human Revolution, but I can’t seem to find a video of him reviewing the weapons. Possible idea in the future? 👀

  • @Vundabamazing
    @Vundabamazing Рік тому +2

    You've probably seen this 50 times, but for the railgun? The battery swaps depending on what fire mode you're in. I don't know if that would really change anything though.

  • @JayJay-gh7or
    @JayJay-gh7or Рік тому +9

    I am always down for a Deagle waving session. Great content as always.

  • @IRMacGuyver
    @IRMacGuyver Рік тому

    @13:30 the Sage Deuce Grenade Launcher is an over under top break grenade launcher that was also seen in Underworld Awakening.

  • @savagedog157
    @savagedog157 Рік тому +7

    Interesting how the character actually reloads the rm68 with his left hand when the mag is completely empty. Too bad Johnathan didn’t notice that haha

  • @hamzterhero
    @hamzterhero Рік тому +1

    Absolutely love the series and the tradition of breaking Jonathan mentally through cursed guns. Would be awesome to see Jonathan reacts to weapons of F.E.A.R. and Max Payne series. The guns from those old school timers deserve some attention from this chad

  • @theaikidoka
    @theaikidoka Рік тому

    At 5:20 - I agree with Jonathan about modern optical sights being robust enough, but surely the main reason to fit canted altenrate sights is for a different engagement range? Usually you have a non-magnified sight alternated with a primary magnified sight, so if the fight changes range, you use the appropriate sight. A non-magnified red-dot paired with irons is pointless - just carry an extra battery if you're worried.

  • @usernamunavailiable
    @usernamunavailiable Рік тому +1

    That G36K is a thing of beauty. I keep telling myself I don't need another gun, and a G36 is unobtainium, but there is Tommybuilt.. and I have a homeless Aimpoint pro.

    • @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
      @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Рік тому

      I though a $700 red dot on a $600 handgun felt bad, a $3500 gun on a $500 red dot feels worse
      😂
      I couldnt care less about HK weapons but Tommybuilt is definitely a cool company. If you got the money, do it.

  • @MrTJPAS
    @MrTJPAS Рік тому +5

    I think True Velocity might have been planning to bring a civilian version of the General Dynamics NGSW (what 2042 calls the RM68) to the market and calling it the Amicus, but I don't know if that ever really came to fruition. They just have 1 video of it on UA-cam from what I can see. Otherwise, that could be Jonathan's way of obtaining one and adding it to his collection of bullpups.

    • @sourlemon3337
      @sourlemon3337 Рік тому +1

      The civilian version is called the Genesis

    • @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
      @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Рік тому

      If it's using the weird polycase ammo I dont see an appreciable market for it, but using 308/6.5Creed/.277 Fury and SR 25 magazines there will be some market. Probably the same people buying FDE SCAR17s a few years ago.

  • @justasimplegamer129
    @justasimplegamer129 Рік тому

    2:20 imagine the jumpscare as you and the enemy meet but died and his corpse flops to your face while listening to Jonathans commentary.

  • @Virgiliusz
    @Virgiliusz Рік тому +5

    The railgun battery does change depending on the battery the gun either fires a super powerful armor-piercing shot with it being single charge up for a long time round, a second battery that has a slight charge up 3 burst fire mode, and a fully automatic mode with no charge up.

  • @GrumpyMann
    @GrumpyMann Рік тому +1

    In regards to the SPH 37mm launcher, I like to think it is just a less-lethal launcher that was repurposed by the no-pats with some kind of custom-tooled lethal round. It doesn't explain the fact that multiple operatives on opposing sides made the exact same thing but, hey, its a video game.

  • @simulacra7885
    @simulacra7885 Рік тому +1

    The grenade launcher doing 2 shots is likely based off of the metal storm system of having 1 cartridge containing 2 shots and an electronic primer setting each shot off with one barrel

  • @Great_Cthulhu
    @Great_Cthulhu Рік тому +1

    The G36C (C="Compact") is a compact variant and a further development of the G36K. It has a shorter barrel than the G36K, and a four-prong open-type flash hider or a birdcage type flash hider.

  • @RawRamenBoyo
    @RawRamenBoyo Рік тому +1

    So I looked it up, the difference between the G36K and G36C is that the K version is a shortened version of the original G36 (k meaning “kurz” in this) and the C is an even shortened version where the K has a 12.5 inch barrel and the C has a 9.0 inch barrel

  • @TheTeddyIsALiar
    @TheTeddyIsALiar 5 місяців тому

    The irl RM68 had a weird hybrid gas system with a recoil mitigation system and according to some people who have shot it was very light recoiling for the muzzle energy.

  • @RevanAlaire
    @RevanAlaire Рік тому +1

    The K suffix for the G36 probably stands for Kurz since it has a short barrel.

  • @thatdudeinasuit5422
    @thatdudeinasuit5422 Рік тому +3

    I reckon the Cyberpunk depiction of rail guns is more realistic (not in size but in battlefield role) in that they are not there as the main service weapons but are there in situations that require heavy penetrative power for instance when shooting through walls or thick body armour. I will say I think the Tech Shotguns make little sense without a destructive environment as I think the role they would play IRL would be as breaching weapons where rather than shooting at specifically the hinges on a door you could shoot out a section of the wall

  • @swayingGrass
    @swayingGrass Рік тому +3

    PKM can actually use disintegrating links as it pulls the cartridge. Ukraine actually made one out of plastic, Armourer's Bench did a video on it.
    The one that "shoves rim and all" is the VZ.

    • @mattrobson3603
      @mattrobson3603 Рік тому +1

      Yeah, the rim keeps a 'push through' belt from being a good idea (since the rim would get hung up on the belt link as it's being pushed) but the way disintegrating links work is perfectly compatible with rimmed cartridges. It just needs to have links that will be pinned together when a round is pushed into them when being belted up.

  • @N0I5EMAK3R
    @N0I5EMAK3R Рік тому +1

    That G36K has to be an armorer's special if it's a British SWAT piece. The KEs and KVs are export versions of the K, so it's a mystery where that one came from.

    • @derekp2674
      @derekp2674 Рік тому

      Don't forget that British Aerospace used to own H&K and would have been happy to produce batches of bespoke models to satisfy orders from individual police forces.

  • @jaxmarumaru
    @jaxmarumaru Рік тому +14

    I don't think the Rosch MK4 would be too futuristic. The weapon is surprisingly similar to ArcFlash Labs EMG-02 CoilGun that you can buy and use today in usa. However from Forgotten weapons videos about the coilgun and its predecessors EMG-01 & GR-1 Anvil leads me to believe that their accuracy and power aren't there yet. If I remember correctly.

    • @Arsanthania
      @Arsanthania Рік тому +1

      Not yet, but with the advances in battery technology it may be a thing sooner that people think it will. Or maybe in 2042?

    • @MarieAvora
      @MarieAvora Рік тому +4

      The Rorsch does like 2500 m/s of muzzle velocity, the real coilguns are like 60 :D

  • @alexanderm4649
    @alexanderm4649 Рік тому

    Now in terms modern handheld railguns there is an company that makes an e-shotgun that is a coil gun that shoots rapid fire metal discs but the projectiles even on the highest settings are going at about the same speed as air guns.

  • @toshineon
    @toshineon Рік тому +1

    I wonder if Nordvik is a reference to, or at least inspired by, Sandvik, which is an actual real swedish industrial company.

  • @akicsizzy6582
    @akicsizzy6582 Рік тому

    I am not sure if Jonathan used to point out the technical inaccuracies of the fire arms, but, I noticed that the G36C in game hold 20 rounds in a magazine while as far as I know, it should be 30. Just thought I mention it...

  • @baundiesel
    @baundiesel Рік тому

    The 2 shot grenade launcher seemed inspired by the multiple launch GLs back in the 90s that had multiple rounds in one barrel and were activated electronically from front to back.

  • @sturmschnitzel0414
    @sturmschnitzel0414 Рік тому

    The HK G36K, the K stands for Kurz= short variant (total length: 833mm) , the C is for the compact variant (total length: 716mm).

  • @nielslauridsen2323
    @nielslauridsen2323 Рік тому

    0:49 could it be that this particular C variant has been repaired with a K variant?

  • @Dragongaga
    @Dragongaga Рік тому

    9:40 Slapping your magazine is not allowed in the Austrian army (which I wasn't part of). If you have to slap your magazine to seat it correctly, your manufacturer need better quality control. If you slap the polymer magazine of an AUG for example, while the bolt is open, it's possible that the cartridges jump out of the magazine and get stuck diagonally in the action and you have to clear the gun before you can use it. It's not necessary either, the gun takes the magazine as it should and you only need to tug slightly to make sure the magazine catch engaged properly, as you should btw with any gun, so there's really no reason to slap the magazine in unless you like to make life more difficult for yourself

  • @NovianLeVanMusic
    @NovianLeVanMusic Рік тому

    According to a Quora comment:
    *G36C* - ultra short, barrel 228mm, picatinny optic rail with iron sights (polymer), mode of fire 0-1-2-D
    *G36K* - enhanced mobility, short to medium range, barrel 318mm, carry handle optic, mode of fire SEF

  • @lucca.machado_
    @lucca.machado_ Рік тому +2

    The rpl 20 actually uses 545, it's made to fulfill the same role as the MINIMI

  • @ShadowHybrid92
    @ShadowHybrid92 Рік тому +1

    we do have that coilgun Ian was playing with a few months back

  • @billyjoejimbob9573
    @billyjoejimbob9573 Рік тому +1

    I would have to re find the name, but there is a .22 caliber rail/coil rifle available for purchase in the U.S right now, it's $3,000 for a .22 cal, but it does exist

  • @martinwinther6013
    @martinwinther6013 Рік тому

    The weekly reminder that the royal armories doesnt have a Sig P220 subversion with the fireselect/safety on the slide.
    They live of donations , and im sure theyd appreciate this specific model to complete that line. They have the regular version..

  • @phucletran2860
    @phucletran2860 Рік тому +2

    The railgun reminded of Guns in Boundary (basically COD-Counter Strike, but in space). Hey, let Jonathan breakdown on that game.

  • @CAP198462
    @CAP198462 Рік тому +1

    I’m reasonably certain Ian from Forgotten Weapons fired a handheld coil gun. So I’m not so sure in twenty years there won’t be one on the market or in use somewhere.

  • @juusolatva
    @juusolatva Рік тому +2

    to be fair ArcFlash Labs EMG-02 actually uses same kind of batteries as power drills

  • @aslamc9288
    @aslamc9288 Рік тому

    Funny, the RM68 reload is how I reload bullpups, including magazine-fed rifles and bullpup shotguns. I find it much more natural and comfortable than using my left hand the way I would with an AR pattern rifle.

  • @daniellambert1217
    @daniellambert1217 Рік тому +2

    Jonathan , just a thought about the sph explosive launcher`s dual shot single barrel issue ..... could it be an innovation along the lines of how rounds would be fired from the metal storm ? sequentially mounted rounds ? ie 1 in front of the other ? otherwise yeah strange choice with that one

    • @somdudewillson
      @somdudewillson Рік тому

      I mean that is literally just what the lore text that was on-screen said, I think.

  • @DjDolHaus86
    @DjDolHaus86 Рік тому +1

    In theory (assuming you had the power source to run it) a rail/coil gun would have higher magazine capacity (with the same physical sized magazine) because it's only a projectile rather than a cartridge

    • @derekp2674
      @derekp2674 Рік тому

      True but then yo'd have to carry the much greater mass and volume of the power supply as well.
      There might also be a greater need to have some kind of sabot around the projectile, for example to provide the railgun armature and, depending on the application, the sabot mass may count as a parasitic mass, as does the propellant mass in a powder gun.

  • @maloxster
    @maloxster Рік тому

    Just a FYI about the XCE BAR. The real name isn't this one. It's the TTS Xceed (TTS for Tec Target Schneider)

  • @pascalgermanfpv238
    @pascalgermanfpv238 Рік тому

    The K indicates a export version as far as i know. For the K models is only single and full auto options while the burst is not an option

  • @carlosMartinez-tj3yf
    @carlosMartinez-tj3yf Рік тому

    The way John said “if I can put it that way” sounds more like “f*ckin put it that way” because of how fast he said it.

  • @joey193650
    @joey193650 Рік тому +1

    @jonathanferguson Does the GR-1 "Anvil" not count as a handheld coil gun? I know it is not powerful and is gimmicky, but it functions none the less. Just your thoughts on it would be interesting. I know Forgotten Weapons did a video on it as well.

  • @JayStrun
    @JayStrun Рік тому +1

    I would very much love to see Jonathan react to Fallout 4 weapon mods, specifically the vast array of MP5 mods to rate the accuracy or believability of them

  • @ceremus
    @ceremus Рік тому

    This is the first time I've heard Jonathan mention Deus Ex, I'd love for him to touch on that series, either the OG version or the new ones.

  • @WrightOnTarget
    @WrightOnTarget Рік тому

    Those kel-tec guys are wild, love 'em

  • @bigfoot9049
    @bigfoot9049 Рік тому

    Only thing I could imagine the devs were thinking when designing the 2 shot sph launcher is maybe metal storm, It's old tech at this point and never was practical enough for military use.

  • @barghest9810
    @barghest9810 Рік тому

    I didn’t realise the XCE BAR was real either, I figured since it somewhat gave me Desert Tech SRS vibes it was just a BF-ised futuristic iteration of that…
    Also can second that point about slapping mags while reloading. In Army Cadets we would get a grilling for doing that both in drills and when live firing the L98A2s or the L86 LSWs. Got it hammered into us that you kinda wiggle the mag when it’s in the well to ensure it’s seated… but never slap it.

  • @bradprater4789
    @bradprater4789 10 місяців тому

    I don't think he's failed even once at clarifying that he never served in the military. At least not anytime he's said anything that would reasonably lead one to assume he has. If that makes sense.
    Anyways, that's very considerate and respectful of you, Mr Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the British Royal Arms Museum

  • @AL-Doody
    @AL-Doody Рік тому

    Canted iron sight would be useful with the use of a scoped rifle, although if you’re using a scoped rifle I doubt you’d be wanting to run around any close quarters buildings, but when that would happen it’s better having sights than attempting hipfire, but at that point why not have a canted red dot, or a scope that has a red dot or irons included onto it

  • @niklasw.1297
    @niklasw.1297 Рік тому +3

    How cool would it be if you had a crazy strong futuristic weapon (Railgun)
    but it has a quirk (You need to reload/manage both the magazine and power supply)
    *(cough Metros Tikhar and Railgun cough)*

  • @grandadmiralsuntzu5066
    @grandadmiralsuntzu5066 Рік тому

    I saw a video of a drill with a styr Aug where the dude reloaded it with his right hand and actually beat the record for speed

  • @Sableagle
    @Sableagle Рік тому

    At 4:15, you say "six-eight is the metric designation for that cartridge." For _what_ cartridge? Something in .268", or maybe .275" if measured before it's fired, but you didn't specify.

  • @aMiyafuji
    @aMiyafuji Рік тому

    The Railgun pick up in the Last Stand BF4 DLC is a bit more of what you're talking about. You don't change the battery, but it deals massive amounts of damage with a single round breach type loading system

  • @combat-greyhound565
    @combat-greyhound565 Рік тому

    Battlefield 4 even had a version of the M320 Genarde Launcher that magically fired 3 rounds.

  • @goatfather2522
    @goatfather2522 Рік тому

    I'd assume that, with the G36, the "C" stands for Carbine which is "Karabiner" in German. So that might be where the confusion comes from.
    -> I just checked wikipedia, and apparently, the K stands for "kurz" (German for short), which amounts to the same thing.

  • @jacob3909
    @jacob3909 Рік тому

    There are handheld coil guns being made, they're pretty much fancy bb guns as of now tho

  • @daviddavidson2357
    @daviddavidson2357 Рік тому +1

    You saying we won't have handheld coulguns by 2042 is a bit odd, considering we have handheld coulguns *now*
    The EMG-01 and EMG-02 are both handheld, man portable coilguns.
    They have less power than a .22, but they're also pretty homemade. I could see an experimental coilgun by 2040 if we can get better supercapacitors and more energy dense batteries. That seems to be the limiting factor.

    • @derekp2674
      @derekp2674 Рік тому

      I agree that power supply technology is one of the main limiting factors. Perhaps progress in electric vehicles (and other tech like industrial laser cutters) will generate useful spin off for for EM guns.

  • @marcellosilva9286
    @marcellosilva9286 Рік тому +1

    15th week pushing for a Resistance, Darkwatch or E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy episode.

  • @mcjagergaming
    @mcjagergaming Рік тому

    G36 "K" instead of G36 "C"
    So the C stands for Compact/Carbine (they can be used interchangeably because they both just mean short/shorter variant)
    The K is just the actual name of the rifle so G36k is the original, so you might have a proto G36c, and it just kept the same polymer furniture. Be
    Or this was G36k that was converted into a G36c, and just reused some of the furniture, since it is a modular rifle built with interchangeable parts to change the purpose of the rifle.
    Or
    Might be a regional thing. Becase the C in G36c just means carbine, but before that, years ago we used the german word Karabiner (english dialect Carabiner)
    K in KAR98k stands for. So my guess is that a German dialect, so that maybe a model that was only meant for Germany.
    Don't quote me on it, I could be just looking to deep into it.

    • @derekp2674
      @derekp2674 Рік тому

      According to a published FOI request response, the UK Civil Nuclear Constabulary own both G36K and G36C amongst their firearms inventory.

  • @NaritTeg
    @NaritTeg Рік тому +2

    Could we get another Hunt Showdown ep? There's a bunch of interesting/niche weapons including one he specifically mentioned wanting the devs to add last time.

  • @hamishsewell5990
    @hamishsewell5990 Рік тому +4

    Amazing work as always! Star Wars Republic Commando perhaps? Or the 007: Everything or Nothing game?

    • @walkerwhited
      @walkerwhited Рік тому +1

      EON! Yes!

    • @kanrakucheese
      @kanrakucheese Рік тому +1

      Everything or Nothing has the weird situation where nearly everything has the capacity made wrong at the last minute (the demo had correct capacity), and the models all being very crude even for the era.

    • @hamishsewell5990
      @hamishsewell5990 Рік тому

      @@kanrakucheese yeah, definitely in need of a remake.

  • @pv8685
    @pv8685 8 місяців тому

    the G36K... the K stands for Karabiner (german for carbine). i dont know why the g36c is marked g36k. maby the useing the same parts. cause it is a modular system after all.

  • @lordkillmore
    @lordkillmore Рік тому

    I'm sure somebody already answered it , but the "K" , i would assume is for the German Version "Kurz"- literally "Short". Its a bit Longer than the C ( Compact )
    I'm not sure about the Civilian Version but if i recall correctly the Military K variant didnt have a Picatinny Rail but came with the "Default" x3 and Red dot Optics - thats the only "odd" thing i notice here
    I loved the G36 when I was doing service back in the Day. Was nice to shoot and a blessing to have on Marching considering its low weight

  • @classified9583
    @classified9583 Рік тому

    6:35 did he just do the reload Jonathan recommended or am i mad ? Is there different animations ?

  • @RetroCharged
    @RetroCharged Рік тому +3

    Hope he does 6 Days In Fallujah soon

  • @Whiteknight-xg2pq
    @Whiteknight-xg2pq Рік тому

    My understanding is the K means Compact, of course this is conjecture but my reasoning is because G-36 C meaning Carbine and "K" being the German version for English's "C". My only supporting "evidence" is In R6S Mute has access to the H&K MP5-K which is configured in a more compact design like the folding stock and 8" barrel. Once again just conjecture but it makes sense to me.
    Edit: On the SPH Launcher that has bugged me so bad since it appeared but I've come to terms with it because of a small idea. That being it has ben electronically modified to fire a weird "smart" munition. Instead of the shell being one single shot it behaves like a over-under shotgun but only in its casing, not the launcher itself, so a duel chambered shell with a 2 strike electronic primer and two shots.

  • @BluSunrize
    @BluSunrize Рік тому

    The difference between a G36K and a G36C is barrel length.
    The G36K ("Kurz", which is German for short) is slightly longer than the G36C ("Compact") by abouts 10 cm.