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Star Citizen: Should you buy the Endeavor?
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2015
- Let's talk about one of the more interesting ships, the MISC Endeavor, and some notes about the modularity!
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I want to turn it into a space meth lab and become the Heisenberg of the Verse!
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Thank you for not being just another guy blandly reading from the website.
+Lame Assed Gamecast I've seen a few of those reviews, and I try to avoid that. But I absolutely appreciate you noticing the difference!
This thing is a mixture of so many iconic movie space ships. The bio-dome ship from Silent Running. The front section detaches for landing and even looks a little like the Nostromo from the original Alien movie. The collider looks like the ship from 2001. The basic structure reminds me of the explorer class mega-ship from the Babylon 5 series. It's like a AAA game all by itself.
+Riverboat Good stuff, I'd love to see their inspiration!
I want recreational biodomes with a nice, natural park inside that can hold docile animals too. A space petting zoo.
It’s IAE 2950 (2020) and I’m seeing this for the first time, 5 years after concept sale. Damn, this is depressing and really puts development of this game in perspective.
we are still five years away probably....
@@smok4101 3 years to go. o7
I got the Discovery package myself, for many reasons really. It was a capital ship I could "live" on, it had non combat uses, and our corp can all make use of what it has to offer. Should be a good fit :)
I would love to see them add more pods in the future and more ships that can use them as well, maybe a prison pod that can turn this ship into a mobile prison or at-least a large scale prison transport, or broadcast arrays and studio pods that let you turn this into a mobile radio or news station and you can dock the news van ship into the hanger and literally have everything you need to be your very own radio talk show and news channel, or maybe even repair bays and material storage and become a fleet scale repair ship, or manufacturing bays that you can use to produce illegal missiles or other weapons and be a mobile black market factory, the modularity of this ship is insane, really hope they do more with it and make more like it :)
I like your ideas, especially being more of a pirate person myself, I'd love to take hostages and keep em in the prison pods
I loved it! I hope the crafting system is similar to everquest where you have to complete an activity to craft the item or something like that. The idea is that the more you try and the better you do, the higher quality the item. that was the best crafting system I've seen so far.
I think your analysis was spot on.
+Joisey Good to hear!
Except that Enterprise comment which was 100% off
+JEF_300 I don't mean to sound cynical, you do do a great job
Regarding the Endeavors farming modules, having food in New colonies would be a true life and death situation. Rather than bringing a tub load of seeds, and hoping and praying that they adapted and grew and were healthy would be vastly more risky than if a moderate amount of seeded, sprouted, and growing plants were replanted in the planetary colonies farming nodes. Just a few deliveries could start off a small-to-medium farm and provide a much greater degree of certainty that the plants would continue in a healthy and nourishing manner, lowering the risk of an emergency evacuation due to crop failure.
C- could it be? The comments aren't taken up by people whining about the price?! It's amazing!
Man, I'm gonna love this game so fucking much. You know the game's really just gonna be this dingy underworld of the game universe.
Space pirates, space drug wars, smuggling, entire pirate STATIONS. Chris Roberts knows his audience very well.
That's a pretty spot-on analysis IMO, though, I do think that you now see the potential of the bio domes by now.
You were pretty true about it being quite good as an organization-focused ship as that is the main reason why I am picking this ship up myself. I was putting a heavy focus into having a humanitarian role with the ship with then having all of the modules at my disposal depending on the job required.
If an organization is wanting to further increase the capability and power of their fleet and group, then I see the Endeavor as the number one way in doing so.
That's it, I'm gonna be a space weed farmer! :D
What they need is also a livestock pod. Grow fast growing corn/feed in the biodome pods, feed it to the space cows. Jump into systems with just space stations with no space for fresh beef. Boom. Great way to charge space filet mignons at $400/plate. :D
That being said, actually the medical options is what attracts me the most, especially in conjunction with an org. I figure you charge enough to provide for medical services and equipment stored in your cargo pods (Defibrillators will fetch a premium at the fringes of combat, dontchaknow?) and you should be easily be able to meet payroll and operating expenses (Including payments for escorts if you decide to run the ship/fleet as a third party available to all). Other than mining this is a surefire way to generate income. I'm seriously considering melting my entire fleet for this puppy.
+Mario Lara It's a biodome, it can of course be used for livestock.
I think that the farming pod is actually pretty interesting from a scientific standpoint. Think of like a GMO laboratory in space that can cross plant species from different worlds. That'd be pretty cool!
A practical thought; Endeavors as support ships for foliating and populating settlements on newly discovered planets in new systems charted by carrack, Odyssey class exploration ships. Or wandering like the Battle Star Galactica's "rag tag fleet" an exodus of ships in search of earth 😄if CIG decides to melt an inhabited planet for the Cross Planet Upgrade (CPU)😳
My ideal Endeavor explorer/researcher - telescope/general research pod/hangar + one Reliant researcher, and one 315p. Oh and great video as always YB :)
I bought the Master set and an extra Bio Pod for the 2x1, x2 setup. After thinking about all the pods I now have, I said "What the hell" and bought the Base Ship also, Now I can set up a Hope Class for full time use. And I still have the "Mix Master" to set up on an as needed basis. Oh ya I am the leader of a corp so this is for my members use.
What a spectacular ship Endeavor is... Great work CIG!
My only qualm is that it should _definitely not_ be capable of planetary entry. That task should fall solely to the detached bridge segment. It doesn't make any sense that something like that would be able to take off and land in its entirety!
Sometimes I come and look at the Endeavor and have some doubts if my favourite ship is still the Carrack, but I believe the Carrack is much more easy and cheap to operate and gathers all of these modules from scratch, unless they start dividing the Carrack announced mmodules by packs and than maybe the Endeavor becomes really interesting - Great review
oh all the fictional star Citizen Manufacturers out there.....I'm beginning to really like MISC's direction with their designs.....they're very graceful and quite exotic in their approach!
I would say that Biodomes are mostly to grow some special plants used for medic stuff or spices. That would make a bigger profit than growing rice or potatoes e.g.
personaly what i would use an extra 4 for is heavy security lets say you get found and for some reason your main defence = running away fails you are gone wane play dead and get boarded and win it on board because honestly ship to ship battle you aint gone vs any ship unless its just 1 or 2 fighters and your landing bay has 2 aswel but lets say its 5 or 6 fighters your crew killing 6 guys on board is your best bet + they can respawn on your ship = yes this is a hope ship perspective
Thanks for the info! I dropped off the SC news feeds for a while and came back and was like... what the hell does this one do now?! :P Can't wait to get into these ships for real.
I'm going to science the s*** out of stuff! Thanks for the video and not just reading the specs to us.
+Eric Bright You're very welcome!
About the space farming, I think it's meant to be use on starting
colonies, on planets that regular plants doesn't seem to grow yet and
you have to genetically engineer plants that will grow on these planets.
Just a guess but if I'm right you don't sell these plants for their
fruit, you sell them for their seeds so it may cost a lot cause the
plants you made for the colony is unique. Just a hunch.
Holy mother of Star Trek fantasy role play! One thing im trying to figure out is if I can have the supercollider, hangar bay and crew & service modules all at once.
Also, keep in mind that 16 MAX crew most likely means that is what the life support systems will be able to keep up with. I can't imagine needing 16 crew members to run the telescope or the landing pad.
+Jasta85 They've said before that the max number of people the life support can, well support, is higher than the crew limit. Technically, even though a freelancer has a crew of 2-3, you could put more people in the back. So I would assume that this means you actually need 16 to run at maximum operational efficiency, but could get by with less. Keep in mind it's more than just driving and running the telescope. There are radar operators, engineers, gunners, etc.
true, posted while I was sleepy and not thinking too straight. 16 max crew for maximum efficiency although I think that would change with the modules. the organic and medical modules seem like they would take up more personnel to operate than the telescope and fuel modules. and that is assuming you are running all modules simultaneously. if you are focusing only on a single module at a time (using the telescope to discover things, then shifting man power over to the scientific module to turn those discoveries into profit).then it cuts down on manpower. granted we won't know until they actually let us play around with the thing.
@STLYoungblood
One thing you didn't mention is that when a player is revived in the medical bay and you also have the hanger module, they can order a small ship that is remote delivered the the endeavor (for a price), so you can make money both off the medical costs and as a ship salesman at the same time.
+Jasta85 it will still cost the endeavor to, ship will have to pay somebody to get those ship there and pay the ship delivered too. but sure it can try to make some profit on it too
well, when you set up shop in your endeavor you look at how much it would cost to get ships sent out, and then just add a charge on top of that. you don't pre-order the ships, the customers buy them and you just get a bonus on every purchase they make. you just have to make sure the prices are reasonable or people won't buy them
Imagine having a vast collection of seeds from all around the universe and being able to grow them rapidly, on a vessel that could be anywhere at any time.. Seems very powerful to me.
It all depends on the benefits involved with the plants xD In theory, any ailment could be cured.
Not to mention the buffs these plants could be imagined to have.
The hunt for these seeds alone, and the cultivation of them, would be enough for me as a gameplay cycle, profession wise.
About the Space-Farm: You could grow your own space-weed and process it into drug compounds xD
I'm so gonna buy this ship with biodomes and the hangar! My pirate ship :)
+Maximilian Heberling Hopefully with some attack ships as part of the fleet?
As I probably won't have such a big group to play with I'll count on a cutlass in the landing bay :D
+STLYoungblood by the way: would I be able to store some cargo in the part of the ship that can fly away? so I can use it as the dealing ship
just that hteres these defence odules which they announced... pocket battlecarrier!!! ;)
Make sure you've either got an org or a way to pay AI.
Biodome!
Chill in your own Space-Garden while orbiting an Class-M Star! :D
the biodomes look dope but I wish there were a lot of different ones like that design was just a constant for customizable insides. I want my robotics, physics, crazy chemistry and cyborg research shit inside of the different domes. there can still be farming but it should be mini jungles or mini forrests geared towards certain plants within that environment yaknow, maybe you even keep alien animals in them.
imagine a fleet of endeavor's playing different roles in an organization like one farming ship, one exploration ship, one med ship, one rock research lab for mining
Little late to the party but if you're doing space drugs in this ship, name the ship, the Hisenberg. I would personally do the hanger/medic version of this ship.
If you could put one set of Biodomes, Hangar, and Science pod that would be my setup. Grow and process your own space weed, and buyers can just land in the hangar for pickups, lol.
Is it bad that when I saw the email from RSI, I bolted to my computer and didn't read anything, no no no, I just bought the most expensive thing I saw on the page xD
+MrNingaFilms lol nope, that's called faith!
+Miguel Pedras Oh yeah
So, should you buy? Well, this one is for those out there who want something customizable. Exploration is key and immersion with modularity almost a bonus. People who want this dont mind paying the premium that comes with an Endeavor. They also dont mind the fact that they wont be flying nor will they be getting news of any sort on this possible $500+ purchase for at least the next 5 years :)
I want to trade my way to an endeavor, got myself an aurora and a friend has a mining ship. We are going to work together to get both of us an endeavor overtime once the game is released
XPLOR ORG FTW :D- Yama
"special radiation from certain nebula" That is a really cool idea.
When will the Endeavor be released to the game? Its halfway through 2018 now and it is still in concept.
I'd imagine it'll come out after crew AI, docking stations that are actually large enough, and ship modularity come out.
12:10 these plants should produce the material that can be used to craft super medicines like the one granting you a X ray vision, or a combat damage booster.
LOL! Let's go "science the shit out of stuff".
The part you leave behind should have a cloaking device
The game won't have visual cloaking, though you could hide it somewhere and turn off it's power or transponder.
i think the farming pod will go with the drug option, to grow for example space weed
6 years late but……what if the botanical pods on the Endeavor can be used to simulate planetary climate and you could create and find vegetation that is able to grow thus leading to terraforming. However I am extremely new to the game and have no idea if this could be at all possible.
From the looks of the images of the biodomes with a scale figure (12:51), it looks inaccurate, and these domes are actually much much larger. Considering the size of the entry, I think the human should be a slight bit smaller, but that would still be a significant difference to the usable square footage that is represented. Especially considering the nearby object that looks like stairs. I'm very interested in where they are leading, perhaps there is a sub-level.
I bought the base for our group.
Was between the carrack or the endeavour and went for the endeavour as so many options but still explore as well
10:39 makes me think of the life pods deployed on Planet Avatar.
The plants could be important for medical related stuff , like bandages may need some form of plant , or med packs.
Im pretty sure that stuff would be pretty important
I doubt in reality in the future or this universe people would take plant based recreational drugs growing them would cost too much , it would all be synthetic drugs.
RE: farming. If you discover a new plant and grow it then you have 100 % of the market since you are the only one growing it. The market will likely be artificial (selling only at in game stores) because for anyone else to buy it there needs to be some utility attached to that plant. Either that or some crafting system.
+Ken Detlor I'm going to use my biodomes to create mutated cows that produce a variety of milk products.
Please, make me a chocolate cow and I will make you a rich man!
+Ken Detlor "Ala' Kazaam! You're a chocolate cow!" Now pay up.....
This ship needs to come out soon still so excited for it
I know this video is a year old, but out of curiosity how many decks does the Endeavour have?
Great vid.
I'm thinking space farming might become more profitable during famines on planets, or future new colonies that cannot support themselves yet.
+Elementalism :D Good thoughts!
I purchased the Master Set.. I don't regret it.
+Magus Alestair Good! People like you make SC as big as it is :)
i think the farming pod is more for helping with things like settlers, you know for selling to settlements that need things like food or even animals, you get what im saying?
I didn't get the impression that you would grow food at all. Just high grade cultivation of exotic plants. Calling it a farm is a little weird, its more like a biodome.
Watching this again years later as I debate melting my Kraken to buy back a Endeavor master pack lol.
Hopefully the pods numbers expand. I think it should be 4 x 2
“Science the shit out of stuff” -STL Youngblood Einstein
What do you think about this being a long range exploration/scout ship. Mostly refering to the bio-domes and long range telescope.
could you do an overlook on community made ships on the forums and talk about which ones you think they should add ect.?
+RoastedSalmon That's a great idea! Can you share links to some of them please? I'd love to do a video on that.
Theoretically with the crew pods, you may be able to use it as a troop carrier.
And swap out the Cutty Red for a Cutty Steel in the landing pod module.
also about the 16x crew i think this is an estamite on many ships you can have more or less and saying that i think they account for the respawns and dockable crew lets take the HOPE CLASS 3 in front pilot shields power manage and scanners 1 or 2 in the back engine`s 1 for the landing bay 2 or 3 for the medical room that is a mqax of 9 and minimum of 7 =7 left for respawn now any other classactualy adds 2 to max and minimum operating crew but stil is only a max of 11or 12 lets say you want a general maintance guy so they just added allot of lifesupport to this ship meby the plants even add lifesupport and you can have 22 crew if you have 2 x 1 plants with the ship
but 16 aspecialy a none combat ship is over kill now talkking about the number on the ship not the escorte some want
If I buy this ship can I walk around in it? Can I fly it? Where will it be 'parked'? Will the whole inside of the ship be accessible? All the different modules? What is the point of the ship? How much does it cost?
Did you even watch the video? But yes, of course you can fly and walk around it, that's kind of how Star Citizen works.
Time for a should you buy on the 600 series soon.
Good video! I was excited by the prospect of more space science but I couldnt justify a 16 crew ship. Keeping my Carrack... even though my minecraft buddies are farming MACHINES. ah well... It'll leave something for them to acquire when i finally get them interested in the game. Hopefully theres a sale in November again and i can finally get my herald!
I love this ship and all the options.
The nearly forgotten ship
The stories of my death have been greatly exaggerated. It's back for the first time in 3 years you can buy the masterset today 29/11/2018.
Imaging if No Mans Sky and Star Citizen was combined into one game.. The planets being No Mans Sky and the Universe being Star Citizen. Id pay double trhe price for those two combined.
i won t get one but i will sure visite a friend one, especially the farm pod, to see the plant, but for trhe view you can get out of it.. just hopping there won t be any xenomorphe into the dome ....
+kao chat Oh yea, I bet that might make for some nice scenery!
5 years later
What is your opinion
And with capital ships costing 100s of millions in the PU, isn't it a good idea to buy the ship with cash rather than the thousands of hours it will take to earn it in the PU?
Space farming? Think "Farmwille" micromanagement game for exotic plants/fruits in space, but you can choose to drive to any marketplace at any time. Terra should prove lucrative for exotic goods you can get from those bio pods.
Accelerator thingy (kinda stupid and illogical), but if this is how rare components are critted/made, hey it is lucrative as hell.
I can see the NASA in the not so far future calling RSI and asking for some Shipdesigns.
+Projectmungo except that star citizen ship designs are based around fictional artificial gravity and have no real life applications. artistically they're incredible, and the made up game physics feel real, but i don't imagine any NASA engineers are going to look at this for inspiration.
+Projectmungo Can I have some of what you're smoking?
Only science fiction show that has real science in their ship designs is Babylon 5. Check out the Starfury.
damn sure isnt...
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+STLYoungblood I have a Hope and Discover class but idk if its better to just own the bundle instead.
+STLYoungblood Definitely right on with this being an org ship. My org (which is just under 2000 strong) is doing a campaign to raise money to buy two master sets.
I'll just take the front part that breaks away. It becomes a nice ship that way.
+Chris Walker I like it as is, but the front cab is a slick machine. I want to see what all the interior of that has on it.
+STLYoungblood Now that I've seen the new Around the Verse today, I realize this ship is really like a moving International Space Station.
Now all you have to do is to buy 20 of the different centers put them together with the back and add the front with a jump drive or the ship is no good with out a jump drive in the front ship and back ship that will be fact even with this game.
its gonna be crazy when the back row of an organizations fleet is filled with hopsital ships
I'd have the super collider with the hangar so I could upgrade weapons and gear then ship it
Couldn't you use the Biodomes as a means of taking live samples from an undiscovered planet and take them to another location for a profit?
It's a Nebulon-B medical frigate.
I can really imagine some people will make Drug cartel orgs, flying around in a fleet of Endeavors and growing space cocaine. It would be profitable and interesting, because they would have to periodically run away from the police and fend off pirates that are trying to steal the drugs. Seems like some fun gameplay with great roleplay possibilitys. And a good profit margin.
+2MeterLP I totally agree. It's almost like that's the secret purpose of this ship.
STLYoungblood The modular design is really genius, they make one ship and serve many playstyles with it.
Will it go on sale again?
The stories of my death have been greatly exaggerated. It's back for the first time in 3 years you can buy the masterset today 29/11/2018.
Am I the only one bugged out by its spelling? It's always been 'Endeavour', as I thought the ship was based off of the historical British 'Endeavour' ship that discovered Australia and New Zealand. Maybe it's not, which would be a shame
So good analysis! Congratulations!
Farmville in space!
ooooh. Is "this big gal" PC? And with 3 years and counting does anyone still have theirs or have they all been melted?
Wow 6 years ago!
7 years later... :D
I would definitely say the Endeavor takes more of a Nostromo approach with separation than Enterprise
it reminds me of the nebulon B.
I'm thinking, growing all the ingredient to make the chemical that the UEE doesn't want me to make. :)
+Arch1345 This thing was made to be a drug lab, fo realsies
+STLYoungblood I am not sure you can grow drugs, they don't mention it in the sales info like they do with the General Research Pod. I hope so, my drug lab will probably be the Hangar (with a Hornet Tracker that advance scouts areas and patrols when we are parked and then a Hornet Ghost to smuggle the drugs and escort the Tracker in case it gets jumped and depending on hangar size add a pair), then the GRP, and prolly the crew module to provide bunks for the pilots and lab workers. Also the Biodomes only can fit two so not sure if you can have it plus two other ones. Otherwise replace the Crew with the Biodome for sure!
+iKerbals Yea, I read into that a bit, but I think it makes sense. Color is a tree bark, and some concept images show trees growing. I don't see why they would restrict you from being able to do that. It's far from confirmed, but I think it makes a lot of sense.
This is basically the Starship Enterprise of Star Citizen I think.
LIKE, these videos are great
and a question: let's say, I start this game in 2017 and I play about 5 hours a week. then I buy a box of ingame choclate, jump into my basic little ship and fly to a mining colony. Those fellas work so hard, they earn well and they never really enjoy big city pleasures, so I could sell my choclate with a nice profit and start my space choclate empire
then BANG!! a player who started in 2016 and plays 15 hours a week snipes me with his (relatively) super cloaked ship and I don't even see it. Based on my current understanding, this snipe would be a crime and the sniper would have some trouble with the law if he were a bad boy in a big city or near a space port.
but is it a crime for him even if there are no witnesses? (would be unrealistic)
do I get a message from the game that "johnybadass1234 killed you"? (would be unrealistic)
if SC wanna play this scenario real, I will start a new character (ingame insurance) so I can be a nice little target again, and the other player will salvage my basic little ship so he can become even more powerful from snipes like this
so how does the game handle this?
thanx
Five years. Five long years. Money well spent 👌
sunk cost, you'll never convince these idiots that chris scammed them for the past 10 years and has been living like a king, in mansions, yachts and private restaurant reservations and flights globally for his vacations.