Star Citizen: Should you buy the RSI Zeus Mark II?

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  • @STLYoungblood
    @STLYoungblood  11 місяців тому +5

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    • @archangel-93
      @archangel-93 7 місяців тому

      Were you aware you said "storage suit for lockers" in the video? Genuinely asking not making fun

  • @Dracounguis
    @Dracounguis 11 місяців тому +151

    As an MSR owner... I really appreciate that it has three different ways to enter/exit. If the ladder works like the Freelancer the animation makes it very secure since it closes once you are done entering or exiting. No one's going to sneak past you onto your ship.

    • @rclines001
      @rclines001 11 місяців тому +10

      Not entirely accurate. Someone on top of your ship can hop in as you enter/leave, but yes, it is a lot more secure than a ramp. Also, the MSR will be getting a second entrance "Soon", as stated about this time last year.

    • @qdaniele97
      @qdaniele97 11 місяців тому +5

      More than that I like that it has a small docking collar.
      Being able to move between ships without going EVA is a huge deal

    • @CHRISXTR3M3GAMING
      @CHRISXTR3M3GAMING 11 місяців тому +1

      @@qdaniele97LOL none of the medium or small docking collars actually work to dock. Do you even play?

    • @Teejay82_
      @Teejay82_ 11 місяців тому +20

      @@CHRISXTR3M3GAMING LOL what is not here today, might be here tomorrow. Do you even think forward?

    • @quuaaarrrk8056
      @quuaaarrrk8056 11 місяців тому +1

      Three entries, and one of these is a docking collar. I like Crusader designs, but it is impossible to enter their ships :D

  • @JagHiroshi
    @JagHiroshi 11 місяців тому +79

    Worth checking the dev posts for what Mark Gibson had to say about Spirit vs Zeus components. It looks like the Zeus is configured to a new standard that all ships will get moved to eventually.

    • @Quickb3n
      @Quickb3n 11 місяців тому +14

      Would you happen to have a link to this ?

    • @Dracounguis
      @Dracounguis 11 місяців тому +4

      With so many extra shields compared to other ships of similar size... I hope it is.

    • @lystic9392
      @lystic9392 11 місяців тому +3

      But will other ships be adjusted up or down?

    • @CapnSnackbeard
      @CapnSnackbeard 11 місяців тому

      I was hoping so, because if not this thing is minmaxed to the gills and the min isn't even that min, it's mostly just a lot of max.

    • @CapnSnackbeard
      @CapnSnackbeard 11 місяців тому +3

      And this feels like a good design decision, because this ship does not feel milquetoast. Like the Defender, and some of the other Alien ships, it has character, and feels like it has a little something other ships don't. If all small ships have all size 1 parts, it makes part sizes feel redundant.

  • @jedi_drifter2988
    @jedi_drifter2988 11 місяців тому +39

    The cockpit/nose of ship, looks more like a Anvil Carrack than it does RSI IMO.
    Also at Citcon The dev presenting the Zeus line of ships said, the CL would have extra hull Armor and under wing thrusters for extra lift.
    The Cutlass Blue also has a dampener or emp to keep you from quantum. I don't remember which, but one of them

    • @Giliver
      @Giliver 11 місяців тому

      It's the only part I don't like

    • @MaximizedAction
      @MaximizedAction 11 місяців тому

      It’s rehashing a few ship designs. Front is Carrack, rear half shape and plating resembles the Eclipse, overall shape from above is Galaxy, overall shape/crossection from the front looks either like Terrapin or Nomad.

    • @tetsatou2815
      @tetsatou2815 11 місяців тому +6

      The cockpit's more like the Scorpius. I noticed newer RSI stuff is going to the single sloped glass body cockpit with "mandibles" to either side. Honestly I hope they go this with the Connie because RSI needs to get over that cockpit strut fetish they had early on.

    • @jedi_drifter2988
      @jedi_drifter2988 11 місяців тому +2

      @@tetsatou2815 Agreed, the only reason I haven't pulled the trigger on the Zeus, is I have a Taurus .

    • @marcohorodnichev9489
      @marcohorodnichev9489 8 місяців тому

      If I have to be fair, the Carrack has an RSI type cockpit compare to all the other anvil ships.

  • @njasicko
    @njasicko 11 місяців тому +9

    Thanks for the video! I rolled the dice and replaced my Blue with a MR. I like RSI stuff over Drake stuff.

  • @luc_mns
    @luc_mns 11 місяців тому +30

    I went for a CL as a daily driver, CCU'd from my nomad, it seems like an upgrade in every way.

    • @xekeys
      @xekeys 11 місяців тому

      Why the CL over the ES?

    • @luc_mns
      @luc_mns 11 місяців тому +3

      @@xekeys already own a 600i so it wouldn't have been able to compete as an explorer and I like to have loads of cargo space, making it more versatile for shorts session of game.

    • @orbitalpotato9940
      @orbitalpotato9940 10 місяців тому

      How much was the ccu and what was your placeholder ship??

    • @luc_mns
      @luc_mns 10 місяців тому +1

      @@orbitalpotato9940 the CCU was 70$ (store credits) and I'm not sure what you means by placeholder, if it's the loaner then at the moment it's an A1

  • @Karackal
    @Karackal 11 місяців тому +40

    All I ever wanted was a bigger Avenger Titan with a copilot seat. Could this finally be it?

    • @robopenguin5501
      @robopenguin5501 11 місяців тому +3

      Same! Love my titan but i'd love some extra cargo space, interior, and multicrew capability

    • @wilbur218
      @wilbur218 10 місяців тому +1

      @@robopenguin5501 get a cuttie... it even has side panels !

    • @robopenguin5501
      @robopenguin5501 10 місяців тому +2

      ⁠@@wilbur218I’ve got a cuttie now, but I would like it to have some more health and some proper long range stuff like a bathroom or small kitchen so

    • @OneTwoMark
      @OneTwoMark 10 місяців тому +1

      Its nothing like an Avenger Titan lol.

  • @JoeTheSpaceGuy
    @JoeTheSpaceGuy 11 місяців тому +7

    Just upgraded my Freelancer Dur to the Zeus ES!

  • @Dracounguis
    @Dracounguis 11 місяців тому +46

    I am continually surprised that they can't put out a brochure with correct data. Does no one say 'Hey Chris we're launching this ship tomorrow, can we have someone double check the data before we ask people for money based on incorrect data?'

    • @ferenctoka
      @ferenctoka 11 місяців тому +5

      Mark gibson said that the components for the Zeus shown are the new standard for every ship going forward. So every ship stat is up in the air with balance now. We don’t know anything more, but for example all the cutlass could have x4 s2 shields.

    • @CapnSnackbeard
      @CapnSnackbeard 11 місяців тому +1

      ​​​@@ferenctokaparticularly with shields, and the ability to mix them to get the best of everything. An ES can have one extra fast regen, one fast, one medium, and a slow chonky boy, and have over-all shields that are both quick, and strong. Other ships would be at a pretty sigbificant disadvantage. All other things beong equal, it is a solid tie breaker.

    • @Kyle-sr6jm
      @Kyle-sr6jm 11 місяців тому +2

      They can't even bother to task some secretary or intern to keep the website ship matrix up to date.

    • @CapnSnackbeard
      @CapnSnackbeard 11 місяців тому

      @@Kyle-sr6jm if I really heard it right that there are only 28 ship designers working on SC ships, that's about 3% of their staff. If they can't even spare money to make the ships they sell, how could they ever afford such an extravagance? 😆

    • @heru_ur6017
      @heru_ur6017 5 місяців тому

      Thats done on purpose, gives them an out when they change it later.

  • @varthelm
    @varthelm 11 місяців тому +5

    Pretty much mirrors my feelings on all these ships. Got the ES because eventual exploration game play is a goal of mine and I could never get behind the DUR. Agree that if you care more about transporting cargo than Urzas, the CL probably is the way to go. However the pilot controled firepower on the MAX is better so, still a conversation perhaps. The MR will come down to how they adress the turrets vs the EWAR package. If one copilot only gets to switch between turrets while the other controls only the EWAR as on the Antares, its only slightly better than the Antares (from a crew engagement standpoint) and we all know how well received that was.

    • @jedi_drifter2988
      @jedi_drifter2988 11 місяців тому +2

      Don't forget about blades for turrets ...

    • @Dracounguis
      @Dracounguis 11 місяців тому +1

      I like the look of the freelancer. I like exploration. But the DUR is just too ugly. 🤷 But it is such an old chassis, I would not be surprised if it got a significant rework. A crew of four on a ship that size is outdated.

  • @patsypattemore7610
    @patsypattemore7610 11 місяців тому +12

    Will be interesting to see what happens with the freelancer as it needs a full rework.

    • @marcohorodnichev9489
      @marcohorodnichev9489 8 місяців тому +1

      I love MISC ships, and the new ones like the HULL-A have beautiful internal design. I really hope they do cause they would become some very cool ships

  • @chrisajokinen
    @chrisajokinen 11 місяців тому +7

    I think they will not tune down these stats, but CIG will tune up a lot of older ships

  • @magic6255
    @magic6255 10 місяців тому +1

    Solid information and definitely appreciate the added comparisons, helped me make my decision very easy. 👍

  • @mr.p5864
    @mr.p5864 10 місяців тому +4

    is it worth that much money for pixels? absolutely not, did I buy it? yes

  • @LemmingOfEvil
    @LemmingOfEvil 11 місяців тому +13

    My money for the ST goes on it being (or at least was) a STealth military ship. Extra turret, modified body, dark paint scheme, along with RSI's involvement in building ships for military service.
    Also, I picked up CCUs for all three variants, because I really love the look of this ship. Space dorito fleet ftw.

    • @jedi_drifter2988
      @jedi_drifter2988 11 місяців тому +1

      I've been waiting for a Stealth military ship, that can hold at the least a Cyclone-RN .

    • @xvieirax
      @xvieirax 11 місяців тому +7

      ST means STATUS, so it's probably a luxury version

    • @lystic9392
      @lystic9392 11 місяців тому

      ​​@@xvieiraxWhy do so many people say this? Was there a clue I missed?

    • @xvieirax
      @xvieirax 11 місяців тому +3

      @lystic9392 it was write STATUS in the upper left corner of the picture from the ship that was leaked

    • @lystic9392
      @lystic9392 11 місяців тому

      @@xvieirax Ah, nice catch.

  • @Cornerboy73
    @Cornerboy73 11 місяців тому +1

    I ditched my Hawk for the MR. A couple of friends of mine have joined the game and are keen on bounty hunting; they saw the MR and thought it looked cool. I never particularly liked the aesthetic of the Hawk or the Cutlass Blue for that matter so I upgraded to something we can all play with together. The clipper is tempting too - I have a soft spot in my heart for my old Freelancer Max but the extra shielding is tempting me.

  • @cv368
    @cv368 11 місяців тому +6

    As a FL Max owner i think i will wait to see if the gold standard pass on the Lancers wont at least even out the range difference a bit. But other than that, i am glad i already filled my concept ship budget with a Spirit. Otherwise i would have bought either the ES or the CL before the panel was over

  • @undersmack648
    @undersmack648 11 місяців тому +5

    Devs confirmed the shields are designed to be post shield rework, so not to put much stock on the number of shields on the ship.

    • @CapnSnackbeard
      @CapnSnackbeard 11 місяців тому

      If the Defender gets 2x S2, I will squeal unattractively

  • @vernadante7019
    @vernadante7019 11 місяців тому +6

    With regards to the CL's larger cargo hold, other than the larger footprint, comparing the profiles, the roof of the rear is markedly larger, more squared and less tapered. So I imagine that feeds in to the increased capacity somewhat. I only mention it, as I haven't encountered anyone who has brought it up.

  • @guysolomon7904
    @guysolomon7904 11 місяців тому +6

    The component setup of the ES is what drew me in - having large fuel tanks is very attractive with locations like Pyro where distances are way greater than Stanton.

  • @ironhand453
    @ironhand453 11 місяців тому +5

    I like the new look RSI is going with. I picked up the Marky Mark for some bounty hunting game play. The biggest draw it had on me,was that is has both the EMP and quantum dampener on it. Since I did not already have a dedicated bounty hunting ship it was an easy pick up for me. I also like the extra cargo varient one but I did not get it since I already have a MSR and will potentaly make more money when data running comes in game and you can mix both electronic cargo and physical cargo together.

  • @Platinumsniper
    @Platinumsniper 11 місяців тому +22

    The devs stated that the reason for the large cargo capacity was that the cargo will be loaded to a point that it's blocking access to components. unlike many ships were you will always have space to access you components.

    • @monty58
      @monty58 11 місяців тому +1

      Looks like the cargo hold is basically the same size as the freelancer max, just with the cargo grid going all the way to the wall. It also probably helps not having that turret access blocking some of it

    • @CathrineMacNiel
      @CathrineMacNiel 11 місяців тому

      @@monty58 if you wouldn´t care about the turret access, you can easily fit 12 additional SCU in the MAXes Cargo Hold and still be able to access the components.

  • @cmdrdarkwolfie1d1
    @cmdrdarkwolfie1d1 8 місяців тому

    good vid, though a note for future vids so that you don't confuse new SC players looking for an opinion or insight on what might be one of their first stand alone ships, you should consider keeping your slide shows more related to the ship of function your talking about when showing off a ship or one with multiple variants.... like talking about cargo size between different variants and your slides show is just random instead of a side by side comparison of the variants of the ship.... or talking about a specific variant in detail, your slide show is just random as it should be to that ship.... I've been playing SC all the way back when Port Olisar was the only thing around and its always nice to see new players come to a game like this...

  • @Chris-iv8sb
    @Chris-iv8sb 10 місяців тому +1

    I would imagine, once Armor gets properly added into the game, this ship's engine will be quite hard to take out, which would be a tremendous benefit for running away with cargo.

  • @addgamer4545
    @addgamer4545 11 місяців тому +3

    We are getting component changes for most ships according to CIG so old ship components are completely up in the air.

  • @Togen2063
    @Togen2063 11 місяців тому +7

    This really makes me want to see how the connie is going to change, this just seems to outright beat the connie at present

    • @ZeilShadowXZX
      @ZeilShadowXZX 11 місяців тому

      Honestly, I prefer ramps over elevators and I honestly see this handling a lot better than the Connie

    • @jedi_drifter2988
      @jedi_drifter2988 9 місяців тому +3

      Except the connie has 2 - 3 x the firepower of the Zeus.

  • @RookRiot1
    @RookRiot1 11 місяців тому +3

    The bounty hunter version is the Marque (Mark) as in "letter of marque." An old naval tradition of giving a privateer crew an "official license" for piracy against the enemies of the crown. Or in this case, bounty hunting.

  • @vulcan4d
    @vulcan4d 11 місяців тому +1

    This is making my MSR look sad with wasted space and those ugly manned turrets. Too bad I can't lower my upgraded game package.

  • @ozramblue117
    @ozramblue117 11 місяців тому +1

    Turrets are all size three weapons iirc. Es is supposed to fit the cyclone class of ground vehicles. Agree there’s plenty up in the air. All I know is I can hardly wait for their release. My guess with the ST is it will be the “Phoenix” or “James Bond” version, with more combat ability than EC or cl but no eWar (emp and dampener) with a more luxurious internal design. Just a guess… and I bet one of mine will be upgraded to it.

  • @ampeel-lj8pu
    @ampeel-lj8pu 11 місяців тому +2

    My guess is that the Zeus would be pretty sluggish, with that big health pool. If not, there’s no real reason to go for the C1 Spirit over the CL (besides looks - it has less cargo, is a bigger target and doesn’t even have multiple entryways - and it’s still a medium hauler with a tractor beam….) unless it goes way up in price. Still picked a CL up though :)
    Edit: I’d say it would be a fair competitor to the max, the cargo difference is minimal in exchange for more pilot weapons. The max’s rework may see it gain a tractor beam(?)

  • @jookm
    @jookm 11 місяців тому

    The Vanguard is a heavy fighter. The Zeus is a larger multi-crew ship. So it makes sense to me that the shields are stronger than a Vanguard. What I don't quite understand is that the floorplans appear to have an airlock right behind the cockpit across from the suit lockers. But the exterior doesn't appear to reflect that, so I would presume there would be some modifications in that regard.

  • @bmoura
    @bmoura 11 місяців тому +5

    Very good video, as usual! I would also compare the ES with the 400i.

    • @KevinFelker
      @KevinFelker 11 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, I'm trying to justify having both ships. I'm an Origin fan, and have the 400i, but it's a L ship with a M Radar.
      The Zeus MK II is a M ship with a L Radar.
      What advantages does the 400i have?

    • @bmoura
      @bmoura 11 місяців тому +1

      @@KevinFelker 400i have a size 3 shield, 42 scu of cargo (+10), one more remote turret, the turrets have size 3 weapons and have a dedicated garage for a hover bike that won't take up storage space.

    • @stevenh9474
      @stevenh9474 11 місяців тому +1

      @@KevinFelker Can't be sure yet, but I'd put money on the 400i being faster on top of what was said in ^ comment. We also don't yet know how the jump drive sizes are going to dictate how our ships go from system to system. Maybe the ES has an easier time going through wormholes than the 400i? And iirc the 400i (like other Origin ships) has a fuel scoop, so it's hydrogen fuel will likely last much longer than the ES, but I could be totally wrong on that point. Last thing, many many years ago, the devs said something about how luxury ships will provide some kind of bonus to our ability to have NPC crews stay happier for longer times away from stations/planets. Like some kind of morale boost for having nicer accommodations in ships. IDK if this is still planned, but if so it bears considering if you plan to hire NPCs and keep them out on long excursions.
      So in reality it sounds like the advantages the ES would have are 1.) Scanning 2.) better forward fire (although fighting in either ship is probably bad idea) 3.) Jump gate characteristics (but that could go either way) 4.) This is speculation but I'd imagine the 400i may get an "upkeep tax" or something for being a luxury ship. It might cost more to maintain an Origin over a similar ship from another manufacturer.

    • @KevinFelker
      @KevinFelker 11 місяців тому

      @@stevenh9474 I've been around since kickstarter, don't think I ever heard that part about NPC morale. Sounds pretty cool, as I plan on running with at least one NPC.
      Thanks for the detailed reply.

  • @kajuta240
    @kajuta240 11 місяців тому +1

    NO! You get a shit Crusader Bomber as a loaner. How does a useless bomber equate to any of the Zeus variants? I got next 0 cargo and a bay full of near useless bombs, when I ordered a Zeus CL.

  • @Axxo978
    @Axxo978 10 місяців тому +1

    A silver-metallic paint job on the Cutlass Blue = Din Djarin aka Mando's original ship
    - This is the way

  • @collin5199
    @collin5199 24 дні тому +1

    for anyone wondering this is about to come out in 4.0 or so was teased you can really never tell guess we will see

  • @Talisman060
    @Talisman060 10 місяців тому +2

    its the python from ED and i need it.

  • @charliemcawesome5012
    @charliemcawesome5012 5 місяців тому

    For the MR vs. Cutty Blue discussion…. This changes now I think. With Master Modes the EMP can now be considered much more seriously…. If you can jump…. You no longer have shields up.

  • @Platinumsniper
    @Platinumsniper 11 місяців тому +2

    There was for a breif moment a "Racing" tab on the Zeus page so it is thought that a racing variant may get announced at IAE

  • @joshm3484
    @joshm3484 10 місяців тому

    Know what this reminds me of? The Titan's big brother. Can fight and do a little cargo, mining, exploration, etc without excelling at any of them. Does seem like an _everyman_ ship.

  • @LemonToGo
    @LemonToGo 23 дні тому

    The Zeus is a ship I‘d love to work myself up to in game. Buying in in the pledge store would skip way too much progression.

  • @ChristianSamsel
    @ChristianSamsel 11 місяців тому +2

    The CL doesn't seem like a good deal compared to Constellation Taurus. More Cargo and a lot stronger weaponry for not much more eddies.

    • @DaBigCheese75
      @DaBigCheese75 11 місяців тому

      Playing Cyberpunk...I see you choom

  • @det0na904
    @det0na904 8 місяців тому

    00:36 Zeus was made before jump points where discovered, what only billionares could buy was the drive that could jump across systems, way after the Zeus.

  • @xanderreasoner2048
    @xanderreasoner2048 7 місяців тому

    I imagine the Zeus Mk II will be a fantastic org support ship and could possibly function as an armored Rover transport?🤔

  • @michaelsmith953
    @michaelsmith953 11 місяців тому

    A solid maybe since they're apparently going to update similarly sized ship's components....making me think we will have 3 size subcategories: connie size, a1 size, and cutlass size

  • @HirschfeldWillamette
    @HirschfeldWillamette 10 місяців тому +1

    GAWD this ship is SLEEK! I just got Star Citizen and I wanna get something like this eventually.

  • @breezie336
    @breezie336 11 місяців тому

    I think is they start implementing atmosphere flight dynamics properly, you will see a big ship handling diffidence between the Zeus and it's competitors. like the Freelancer and Drake.

  • @hoodlumX25
    @hoodlumX25 11 місяців тому +5

    I believe the reason the CL has more cargo space has to do with the lack of top turret above the cargo area.

    • @xvieirax
      @xvieirax 11 місяців тому

      But ES doesn't have one too

    • @hoodlumX25
      @hoodlumX25 11 місяців тому +1

      @@xvieirax ahhh my mistake, I thought it did when I first saw it.

  • @mstrickk1
    @mstrickk1 11 місяців тому +2

    The difference between the ES and the CL might be interior height, but it will probably change before release.

  • @kira68200
    @kira68200 11 місяців тому +1

    am I the only one thinking that the combat oriented one is the one being the less protected ? I mean the exploration one has one supplementary shield and I have heard that the cargo one has supplementary armor
    but nothing for the combat one, huh, strange

  • @SOFdadbod
    @SOFdadbod 7 місяців тому

    “Storage suit for lockers” lol hell yeah man good video🫡

  • @Mnerd7368
    @Mnerd7368 11 місяців тому +1

    The Zeus MK II would most likely be a military cargo or a cargo contract work suitable for cargo contracts freelance worker in Star Citizen with a large team of 10 players or more. That's my assumption since it is a large cargo spaceship/starship. Not my type of ship, I prefer a slightly less smaller ship. But cool design ship. I bet you can put a tank in this cargo spaceship 🚀. I do not understand why this youtuber thinks this is a bounty hunter ship when it is not a bounty hunter ship since it is large cargo ship for contract cargo ship work.

  • @TheShorterboy
    @TheShorterboy 11 місяців тому

    at the current price it's an excellent boat especially for 138 SCU with the level of shields until scanning gameplay and the secure cargo works it's better than an MSR for hauling

  • @napalmarsch
    @napalmarsch 11 місяців тому +1

    my cutlass blue looks so bad vs that even vs the cutter

  • @mactan_sc
    @mactan_sc 11 місяців тому

    i think the ES has an open hallway through the middle that cant be filled with cargo, similar to the C1, where i believe the CL is allowed to go wall to wall cargo with no access to rear ramp

  • @Kyle-sr6jm
    @Kyle-sr6jm 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for the information

  • @n1c2c8
    @n1c2c8 11 місяців тому +1

    ST:
    Stealth?
    Status?
    Sport Touring?
    STarfarer?
    ShuTtle?
    STriker?

  • @Winterx69
    @Winterx69 11 місяців тому +2

    It may read 128 SCU, but honestly, I only see 64 SCU when looking at it...
    - i.e. 4x the MR's cargo capacity, instead of 4x that of the ES

    • @Alopen-xb1rb
      @Alopen-xb1rb 11 місяців тому

      Agreed. CIG also said the reworked 600i was going to fit a Nova but never mentioned how it would fit underneath the 600i to begin with. Years later the rework is still “pending”. Take some of the schematics with a grain of salt

    • @joelellis7035
      @joelellis7035 11 місяців тому

      ​@Alopen-xb1rb the rework of the 600i was only announced in the past year.

    • @Alopen-xb1rb
      @Alopen-xb1rb 11 місяців тому

      @@joelellis7035 without a ramp the 600i just does not have the clearance to load a Nova tank by elevator in the belly of the 600i. The main point of my comment. There are plenty of clips mentioning it will be able to carry a Tonk. Solid chance they will backtrack on that idea OR add a ramp which they never mentioned. Irregardless of when the rework was announced.

    • @joelellis7035
      @joelellis7035 11 місяців тому

      @@Alopen-xb1rb No, the only mentioning of the 600i carrying the Tonk came with the announcement of the rework. It was to emphasize how they reworked the design to eliminate the player complaints about wasted space inside the ship. The mentioning of the Tonk was a surprise because it contrasted with the luxury aesthetic of the Origin line of ships. And you're unnecessarily trying to box in the argument that a ramp is necessary. Like they did with the 400i, the landing gear need only be extended for the 600i to give the necessary clearance for the Tonk.

  • @Platinumsniper
    @Platinumsniper 11 місяців тому +1

    Tarsus is the Jump drive modification not the Quantum drive. The Zeus predates Jump point discovery by decades

  • @lystic9392
    @lystic9392 11 місяців тому +1

    I kinda hope the MR will be good for something but I'm not convinced about its combat ability. Guess we'll see.

  • @Dracounguis
    @Dracounguis 11 місяців тому +7

    Unless there's something we don't know about the Zeus; it does EVERYTHING better than any ship you could say is a competitor. So if you're in the market for a medium sized ship the Zeus is probably what you want.

    • @kebasor
      @kebasor 11 місяців тому +2

      Actually, it doesn't, though it's easy to miss where it falls behind. STL already made the case why someone would want another ship than the MR. The ES, while capable, falls behind the Freelancer DUR in both combat ability and flight range due to the refinery aboard the DUR. If you want a combat explorer, the DUR is the better ship. As for the CL, the better pilot controlled weaponry means the Freelancer MAX is actually a superior ship for a solo pilot, while the top turret provides coverage while landed. The bottom turret of the CL only keeps point blank ground units from boarding the ship. As always, the right ship to get depends on what the player intends in it's use, and wait for the Q&A before deciding when you can.

    • @Dracounguis
      @Dracounguis 11 місяців тому +1

      @@kebasor yes the freelancer has more guns, but depending on how agile the Zeus is, it might have more on target time. And it's hard to argue against twice the shields.

    • @kebasor
      @kebasor 11 місяців тому

      @@Dracounguis Twice the shielding is, definitely, a nice feature, but having twice the firepower is also a deterrent against being attacked in the first place. Remember, not only does a Freelancer have twice the gunpower of a Zeus, those guns are all gimbled, which means it will inherently have more on-target time than the fixed guns of the Zeus. In addition, the very advantages of the Zeus in other respects (larger internal volume, larger components) work against it having even equal agility to the Freelancer. I look at the Freelancer as an explorer meant to fight, while the Zeus is an explorer meant to run. There's nothing wrong with having both.

    • @addgamer4545
      @addgamer4545 11 місяців тому +1

      Also the Zeus is the first ship marked with the new shield/potentially component sizes so we literally know nothing.

    • @xekeys
      @xekeys 11 місяців тому +1

      What about the c1?

  • @SpectreEH
    @SpectreEH 11 місяців тому +1

    The time SC Comes out, You'll have to change your name to STLYOldblood!

  • @coina-dig-tion6322
    @coina-dig-tion6322 11 місяців тому

    Did you attend CitzenCon? I was lucky enough to go and it was really fantastic. So glad I made the effort to go. Not going to buy the Zeus. Kind of want a Pioneer now that they've gotten us excited about base building.

  • @JohnVanderbeck
    @JohnVanderbeck Місяць тому

    Still wish they made the original available because it looks so much cooler

  • @arcadealchemist
    @arcadealchemist 11 місяців тому

    the zeus is just a constellation
    not sure why we got A1 loaners tho and not a constellation.
    the A1 SUCKS so bad the ship handles like utter dogshit compaired to other ships in it's class.
    it's a buggy mess too.

  • @sumofl
    @sumofl 11 місяців тому +1

    I'm really excited to see how stealth mechanics will play out over the next few years with scanning being fleshed out... I bought the CL as a replacement for my Kore because I like to run cargo and smuggle but wanted something that would have just a little more space than 6 scu. Here's hoping it'll be as fast as it looks and eventually have another paint scheme than hazard tape/blue/black.

  • @Vinterloft
    @Vinterloft 11 місяців тому

    Literally yesterday I got a Spirit C1 to Zeus ES upgrade because 75% of the cargo capacity for ability to explore would be worth it. Then the C1 came to PTU with an upgraded 64 SCU... FML

  • @draconas5086
    @draconas5086 11 місяців тому +1

    The primary thing I'm curious about with at least the CL and MR (since those are the two I grabbed) is the type of ground vehicle they'll be capable of hauling

  • @JClif
    @JClif 11 місяців тому +1

    I got the CL. I really liked the design of the ships. Also, I like the cargo compacity for the price.

  • @BetterThanLifeProd
    @BetterThanLifeProd 9 місяців тому

    For me, the MR is a close call to the Cutlass Blue. The question becomes the final performance. The Zeus is said to be less agile than the Crusader Spirit series. The Blue is faster and has better acceleration though turning is, roughly, the same as the Spirit. Which, comparitively, implies the Zeus won't be able to keep up with the Blue. And if it can't keep up with the Blue, what is the intended target?
    The pilot firepower in the Blue is higher, but with a crew of 3, the Zeus, probably, has a higher total gun output and more flexible firepower. The Zeus trades missiles for the EMP. Depending on your play style, that may be a positive or a negative. If the Zeus doesn't fly as well as the Cutty Blue, using the EMP might be problematic.

  • @jackday9424
    @jackday9424 10 місяців тому +1

    thanks for this! i was fighting myself with getting either the ES or the CL and i went for the ES, it shall be my home ship lol. thanks again for this vid

    • @Glathgrundel
      @Glathgrundel 8 місяців тому

      Ditto … the ES will be my Millennium Falcon once in game.

  • @stefanbauer423
    @stefanbauer423 11 місяців тому

    No, you shouldnt. You get 150 Mil ingame for 11€. Anybody who pays for a ship on the pledge-store with those prices really either likes buying ships on the pledge stores, or he/she doesnt know overpriced the ships actually are.
    Yes, its against the RoC
    No, i dont care

  • @damonos
    @damonos Місяць тому

    I don't see any purpose for the ES and I don't understand why so many players are so enthusiastic about this variant, for me the ES is neither fish nor flesh, it is nothing half and nothing whole, but I am very enthusiastic about the CL and the MR, the former as a small trader, the latter as a daily driver and have also bought these two variants.

  • @commanderroddi7742
    @commanderroddi7742 Місяць тому

    SO, kinda like Mark Wahlberg when he was a singer, and went by Mark E Mark, this is the Mark 2 Mark?Markue? LOLES is tempting exploration ship

  • @Xeonzs
    @Xeonzs 10 місяців тому

    I know you compared the CL to the freelancer Max, but what about CL compared to RAFT?

  • @Macskinny76
    @Macskinny76 12 днів тому

    Since this was done 10 months ago, you might want to do a remake of this video. But, not much has really changed in your description.

  • @friendlyspacedragon7250
    @friendlyspacedragon7250 11 місяців тому

    It's the Freelancer obsoleter. Especially DUR seems like a straight downgrade from the Zeus and the MAX at very least isn't better than the CL. If there had been a missile variant the entire Freelancer line would have been in danger :D

  • @Nodispo1022
    @Nodispo1022 11 місяців тому

    Hello, can someone tell me what ship they give in the meanwhile if you buy a ZEUK MKII MR ? thanks a lot, i like the concept of the ship, so i'm hesitating in buying it if they give you a crappy ship instead while waiting :l

  • @ElijahNMitchell
    @ElijahNMitchell 11 місяців тому

    I wonder if the ST is a transport like the E1, would make sense for them to delay it since the E1 got fucked over with a delayed release compared to the other Spirits

  • @DawnstealerGaming
    @DawnstealerGaming 11 місяців тому

    One thing the Zeus really shows is just how outdated the Freelancer is

  • @theg0z0n
    @theg0z0n 4 місяці тому

    CIG stated that the Zeus is the first ship with the new component tuning. So basically you spend a ton of time comparing stats from one system to another. AKA meaningless.

  • @radsjet
    @radsjet 9 місяців тому

    If i can fit a roc in the zeus MR i will probably make that my daily driver for its ability to just do a little of anything except cargo i quess, but i can always just rent a ship for cargo running if i want to do that for the day

  • @greyeyes3333
    @greyeyes3333 11 місяців тому +1

    If I may, I think the most direct line of comparison for the Xeus ES is the 400i.
    It has about the same shield HP pool, very similar in cargo capacity, the same pilot controlled weapons and similar scanning ranges. The primary advantage the Zeus has at this moment over the 400i is that it should be able to navigate small jump portals as it is comparable in size to a freelancer.
    The 400i has the advantage of dedicated vehicle storage, an additional turret and the cartography table but it’s limited to medium jump points and up.
    The only reason I am not buying one is that I already own a 400i and at this point I am not ready to trade it for a Zeus. Even though I want one. I will likely pick up a Zeus MR in game when it’s released. I think There is a lot of good gameplay capabilities there but I am not going to spend real money on it.
    Also I’m already deep enough into this project and I am doing my best to hold off on giving CIG fresh money until Squadron 42 is released.
    STL I love your content, I have followed your channel for years and I really enjoy your commentary. Thanks so much.

    • @stonerhino83
      @stonerhino83 8 місяців тому

      So in summary, the $250 ship outperforms the $150 ship.

  • @brvedon
    @brvedon 11 місяців тому +1

    Just bought the MR! Can't wait to fly it in a year

  • @mizzoumade7508
    @mizzoumade7508 11 місяців тому

    As a longtime mustang alpha only owner, the RSI CL looks very tempting. Robert bout to finally get me hahahah

  • @TheJoGeLu
    @TheJoGeLu 8 місяців тому

    Would the Cargo varient be an ok daily driver? I currently daily a C1 Spirit and not sure if I should upgrade

  • @rclines001
    @rclines001 11 місяців тому +1

    I was a little sad that the CL took the place of the Max as the largest cargo able to pass through small jump points. It was one of the major things the Max had going for it. I guess it's still the cheapest though as I'm guessing the CL will be around $200 when it is releases.

    • @adniknax8064
      @adniknax8064 11 місяців тому

      Well, if you think about it, the Constellation Taurus is at the same price, I don't think it will increase much.

  • @GreatWolfBalistic
    @GreatWolfBalistic 11 місяців тому

    melted my corsair for this. I have always wanted a bounty hunter ship and would of loved a corsiar variant. If the MR does not have pilot controlled emp I will get my corsair back.

  • @David_Martinez_USA
    @David_Martinez_USA 10 місяців тому

    Hello, if you have a chance, could you make a video comparing the 325A vs MR please

  • @mustrumridcully3853
    @mustrumridcully3853 10 місяців тому

    CIG - "Proudly providing conflicting ship sales information for a decade"

  • @S1leNtRIP
    @S1leNtRIP 11 місяців тому

    Gosh, I LOVE the Freelancer DUR, but except for pilot guns, this seems like a step up in basically every way. D':

  • @jonathanbriand3446
    @jonathanbriand3446 11 місяців тому

    Really wish the Zeus would be modular like the Galaxy... I hope its just because it would be OP otherwise.
    I can't decide and look at the store and my credit card for the last 2 days..
    But I want to support CIG and put my weight on the scale in this post-Citcon week with "1 more pledge" (yea right, i kno)

  • @dondampa7845
    @dondampa7845 8 місяців тому

    i have upgraded my c1 tu the zeus mk2 fright cl :) i hope the traktor beam works better then the one on the c1

  • @revelis3840
    @revelis3840 11 місяців тому

    They already mentioned that the Zeus MK 2 shields are with the new balance pass, all other ships will be rebalanced accordingly.

  • @arnov7611
    @arnov7611 5 місяців тому

    Why did they put the turret under the ship, while on top it could offer minimal defense when the ship is on the ground...

  • @copespitter1942
    @copespitter1942 11 місяців тому

    Traded the freelancer up to the es. I will miss those guns though.

  • @Beat.Wonderful
    @Beat.Wonderful 11 місяців тому

    Ooh too late already bought haha. Then again, it was an upgrade from the freelancer max.

  • @DevilsxArms
    @DevilsxArms 11 місяців тому

    I really like the style and design of the ship. But im not sure which one to go for. A ES or CL? Which one would be a good general purpose ship? I have a caterpillar, cutlass black, andromeda, and a couple of other small fighters and ground vehicles.

  • @Allen2142
    @Allen2142 11 місяців тому

    I'm pretty sure the Mk2 MR variant ispronounced "Marky Mark".

  • @TheModelOmega
    @TheModelOmega 11 місяців тому

    Would I buy it??? Absolutely not!
    But I don't need to, my brother got it, so I'm good. lol

  • @vespervespertilianus8868
    @vespervespertilianus8868 11 місяців тому

    ST could have been the original designation of the ES referring to “Standard” version.

    • @shadow7037932
      @shadow7037932 11 місяців тому

      ST was listed as "Status" in the CitCon presentation slide. We'll probably see it at IAE.