Logitech MX Mechanical & Master 3S Review - Next Level Productivity!
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- The Logitech MX Mechanical Series fuses that slim form factor that we all love and appreciate with the best of Logitech’s gaming keyboard expertise. I've been using it with the new MASTER 3S Mouse and it has been a great user experience! However, there are certain things that you NEED to be aware of regarding the MASTER 3S.
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Intro
0:59 - MX Mechanical Pricing and Form Factors
1:19 - Build Quality
1:38 - Minimalistic Design
2:27 - Smart Illumination
3:12 - Keycaps
3:41 - Sponsor Spot
4:11 - Linear Switches
4:20 - Tactile Switches
5:11 - Clicky Switches
5:46 - ASMR
6:37 - Wireless Performance
8:23 - Options+ Software
8:56 - Battery Life
9:48 - Master 3S. What’s NEW?
10:46 - Sensor Upgrade?
11:14 - Ergonomics
11:33 - MagSpeed Goodness!
12:12 - Apple Silicon Compatibility issues
13:28 - When it works…IT’S AWESOME!
14:02 - Battery Life
14:22 - Final Thoughts
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When it comes to peripherals, I always wait for your reviews before I buy. That said, thank you!
My sentiments exactly.
idk he don't like blue switches which are prolly the most popular. U still need try stuff out b4 buy.
I love how he includes information on what is like to own the devices. Makes it incredibly easy to decide whether or not it's something I'm interested in. The quieter clicks of the 3s sounded nice, but I'll be sticking to my MX 3 a bit longer.
I ordered them a few days ago and can't express how much your review made me feel relief! The final thoughts chapter really addresses why someone should pick them up. The best thing for me is that my use case is exactly like yours! Now I'm so excited and can't wait to get them.
One of the best reviews I've seen so far on the new MX mechanical mini and MX master 3s. Just the info I needed. I just ordered them both. Thanks man! Keep on with the great videos. You rock!
14:27 - That desk setup 😍. Excellent review, looking forward to getting the mini combo once its available in my country.
Great review! Has the new optical sensor removed or reduced mouse acceleration in your experience? It's the only thing that has held me back from getting a mx master mouse in the past.
I purchased the MX Keys and MX Master 3 about 2 years ago. Still loving them. It was an excellent review you did back then, and again now.
That was the best Keyboard test of the MX Mechanical that I've heard so far. Great job!
This is the best review I've seen about these two products!! THANK YOU for testing all three key types, as this plays a role in my purchase. Keep it up!
Had the 3S for a couple weeks now and I love it. Was waiting to buy an MX Master until they came out with a "silent" click like they've had on some of they're $20 mice for years. Not sure what took so long but glad it finally came!
Here in NL, the 3 was regularly selling for Euro 69 (well, mostly 79, but often there were deals for 69). The 3S launches at 129. No, not selling the 3 to buy the 3S, though I would love for my 3 to be silent.
Hello, was surfing around the internet looking for reviews on this keyboard. Must say good review! Helped me make my choice!
I totally love my o.g. MX Master. As a coder, I'm totally addicted to the auto-freewheel. As someone who routinely scrolls through large files, it's amazing.
nvim?
The first video I found that does a sound comparison between all 3 available switches. Thank you!!
Thx for pro comparasion! That last „you can choose mc keys” was golden ❤️
Just watching your perfect composition and lighting was an instant sub for me. Great content!
Love the quality of this review. Very well thought out 👍🏼
MX3S already bought and on shipping... I like the way you present the content, could listen for another hour lol.
If they had an MX Mechanical TKL in pale grey, I would buy it immediately. I am a Software guy and simply need standard layout but without the num keys... For now I will continue with my G195TKL. I think there are good chances they will also provide a TKL version.
Very good content - L-I-K-E!
Dude, I really like your reviews. Straight to the point, no bullshit. Not annoying at all. And most importantly: humble.
"The disadvantage of being faster than light is that you have to live in darkness" - early viewers cant have higher video quality and captions.....sed
Why?
@@courage5761 because UA-cam
You can slow down
I think going with a low pro mechanical is great even the clicky didn’t seem super loud compared to full size blues. I picked up the linear because tactile just isn’t my thing and love it for work. Gaming was okay if you need to, I still prefer some gaming focused keyboards for that though. Also really like the quiet clicks of the mouse. Didn’t bother me really on the 3 but was something I noticed and thought was loud. No connection issues for me on m1 mac and windows so far.
The quiet clicks on the mouse are great, but I hate loud keyboards. I would class even the browns on this keyboard as being loud. Have the keys mini which is far better for those who also don't like loud keys.
This review is clean AF. Nicely done.
Appreciate the detail with the software! Thank you
MAN, I LOVE YOUR REVIEWS, SOMETIMES I DON'T LIKE THE THINGS YOU REVIEW BUT THE WAY YOU REVIEW THEM MAKES IT APPEALING. (You're a tech DOCTOR!!!)
Super informative. In the market for new key board and mouse. Appreciate your review. Many thanks
Seriously one of the best reviews of ANYTHING I have ever seen on UA-cam, or anywhere else. Great quality content and one of the most professional deliveries I've heard. Why have I only just found this channel? 🙁 Liked, and subscribed. And as for 'spend responsibly', ha! Like that's going to happen now I've found this channel 😂
What an awesome video - pro editing and excellent info. Subscribed :)
I’ve been using the full-size mechanical board and 3S for a little over a week now with both an M1 MacBook Pro and an M1 Mac mini and haven’t had any connectivity problems with the mouse. I also have the previous generation MX3 mouse and I love the feel of the new switches.
How is the keycap sturdiness? I know on the gaming version it was quite wobbly
@@killerofprimes No issues. I've been using it every day at the office.
@@FastRedPonyCar good to know!
Can you switch between devices? If so how many?
@@aleempervaiz 3
Thank you for this review. The only one I’ve seen that tested the Linear version which would be my choice! Great review.
perfect review, just like always :) Thank you!
I'm actually interested in getting the MX Mechanical. I've been looking for a mechanical keyboard for under $200 for the last year or two after getting one at work. I normally want to stay away from wireless keyboards, but being able to switch profiles means I can easily use it with my Shield TV Pro. That makes the price a bit easier to swallow. I love the fact that they kept Mac users like myself in mind. Where the issues with the Apple silicon only with the 3S?
You're amazing as always :) Thanks for being my tech Guru :)
I tried this keyboard and this could have been a great product except for the following:
1. Keycaps quality (fingerprint and keys get shiny)
2. Not being able to replace keycaps with 3rd party PBT ones because they decided to use non standard stabilizers on space bar and Shift keys
3. Not able to use it in wired mode
4. For the money it’s not hot swappable
I hope there will be a v2 version and they fix some of those points
I have this keyboard and it is AWESOME. I use windows for work and mac personally and not having to remember corresponding keys and switching devices by pressing a button is so helpful!
Definitely the best peripheral reviews on UA-cam right now. Nobody does it better
Thanks!
i bought this mouse and received it yesterday. I am a nerd and am 54 years old I have probably had 100 different mouse devices. This thing is the best I love it.
The 3s also fixes one of the biggest issue of 3: the wheel randomly misses your scroll turn when you scroll too fast. This was a huge issue for people scrolling through lots of code or spreadsheet.
Mine still has this issue. Dealing with the 3S scrolling issue right now, considering returning it.
@@theunknownbeing7 I just returned it because of same issue. I don't get why people like that scroll so much. I get fast scroll is helpful when you wan't to scroll up or down a large file but there is no proper feedback even in ratchet mode plus it's not that responsive as mentioned above. Poling rate can be better. It's an expensive mouse but I don't think its a great value. Logitech please give us more buttons instead of making us do stupid mouse gestures. Keyboard is phenomenal though. No complaints
Big deal, if true. Is it fixed in bluetooth or through logibolt connection? Do I need to have the logi+ app installed?
I'm returning my mouse because of that. The scroll is such a disappointment. When you scroll slow is too slow and when you scroll fast it's too fast.
Could you elaborate the issue please? I'm using 3 and can't tell what you're talking about
Thanks for the video. Looking forward to this keyboard. For the mouse, I will stick with my mx3. I fixed my issues with universal control with the beta logitec sw.
I'm writing this comment with my new MX setup and I love them! Thanks for your review, it made me pull the trigger and I don't regret it! The only downside of this setup is the switching between computers. I can't install the Logitech software on my work computer and I'd really like to be able to switch the mouse WITH the keyboard, at the same time, without flipping the mouse over to do so.
Looking at the review, then it came down to sounds when I thought "wow, nice asmr, love it" and few seconds later there's a notification about asmr about to end :) Nice one!
It's just incredible to see the effort you guys put into these videos. I'm from Brazil and I love your job. High quality content, amazing voice, videos are top notch. Just fantastic videos overall. Love it! Greetings from Brazil.
Fully agree, not sure what kind of mic is he using, but the sound is rich and actually amazing in detail.
I did a lot of research before I decided to get one. I bought the MX mechanical mini hoping that my money worth. I am happy of it and so satisfied of what I got. No words can explain how good this keyboard is. Recommended to anyone.
This is awesome! You had me when you said it was a mix between g915 and mx keys the two keyboards I was torn between!
Spend responsibly, never heard that from a tech reviewer ever! Thanks for that!
Nice job on changing the lighting color with each keyboard in the comparison
Great review! Thank you!
very good review, thank you!
This was an excellent video. Thank you very much indeed for informing us about the issues with the 3S Mills not being fully compatible with Apple Silicon. I am awaiting my Apple Mac mini as I write. I was very interested in potentially buying one of these mice to use with a new computer. I will now reassess my options, thank you very much for taking the time to share with us your informed and valuable opinions I have liked and subscribed.
Thanks for reviewing it on Mac and Windows! I use the Logitech MX vertical on my work Windows computer and M1 air at home😊 but looking to see the other new mouse review
I'd be curious to know how the Mx keys mechanical compares to the low-profile options from keychron (K1 and K3). For mac users this is the other main mainstream mechanical keyboard OEM with mac support out of the box. I tried the low-profile keychron switches and was not a fan (I really like their regular switch options). Too mushy feeling compared to regular mechanical switches. Hoping the Mx mechanical switches feel better.
This looks like real replacement candidate for my Logitech G613 in my office that has issues with double typing and the characters on key caps after 3 years of daily usage really worn out. Also appreciate bluetooth support for quick reconnection between laptop and PC. Battery life 10 months without backlight - also comparable to the old keyboard. I am going for tactile, i need some keypress feedback, but not as much as clicky keyswitch offers.
I bought my MX 3S year ago and I have to admit that today I definitely can say that I appreciate that I have decided to buy this mouse. It is not a game changer because I have used multibuttoned MMO's mouses for a long time- to main change is a Flow and of course multiconnectivity. I have to check who it will work with keyboard.
Thx for the sound review - will stick with current mx mini.
Wish these Logitech Keyboards came sooner. I bought the Akko 3098B to pair with my MX Master 3 mouse to work on multiple machines. Love the form factor, build and switches feel of the Akko but the switching between devices still need a combo key press.
Thank you for calling out the lack of left handed options on the mouse. As a lefty, I really wish Logitech would offer more options for us on their high end mice. Even if it was only available as a special order.
Fantastic video dude
loved the way you put efforts in this video THANK YOU SIR, IT WAS DEKIGHT.
This is a really great review. Thanks for this. I'll be sticking with my MX Keys and MX Master 3 for a longer time. I'm a bit disappointed with the MX Master 3S not improving on the device switching. I love the MX Keys complete effortless device switching, but the MX Master 3 involves you lifting your mouse and pressing on a very small depressed button. They should have copied the M720 physical buttons, or even better, allow one of the side buttons to be able to be changed as the device swap button. Still, thanks for posting the video.
Logitech Flow can help with that though. But I'm not sure if it allows Mac to PC transition.
These are interesting peripherals for sure but the Bolt receiver, while new, is still something we need to wait further into. I kinda wish they just made these devices backwards compatible with the Unifying Receiver at least for this transition period. I'm rocking the MX Master 2S, still. My keyboard is the Logitech K380 and was holding out for the MX Keys. But I don't have enough horizontal space in my desk for it. The MX Keys Mini might be better but it isn't compatible with the Unifying Receiver...see how annoying that is...?
@@mistermastermind528 I like flow, but one of my machines is a company device and its firewalled. Due to this I cannot enable flow there and connect my two Macs.
And no onboard memory on MX Master 3S... that was the biggest deal breaker for me. Will be waiting for version 4 I suppose...
@@blue4059 What would one use this onboard memory for on the mouse?
My work requires me to connect to lots of other people's computers, most of which I do not have the liberty to install Logitech software. So having onboard memory that automatically loads my profile with custom macros and settings is quite essential.
What about Linux support?
Very thoughtful review. You have covered everything necessary and I aboslutely love the asmr sections for each key style! I have the MX Master 3 mouse, but not the keyboard so my only current option to be able to use on mulitple devices is by using Microsoft garage Mouse without borders. To be honest. It does the trick, but not reliable and I don't like the idea of microsoft having the ability to keylog just about anything I type. Thanks for this review! 👍
Thanks. Helped me feel like I'm empty inside, and need to buy something.
I have a white build and I've been considering the Master but they only had it in grey. Glad they have a white option now, might get one
Good review. However, I am concerned about upgrading to the new keyboard with Bolt received and my older MX Master 3. Does this older mouse work with Bolt? Based on your comments I am hesitant to upgrade to the MX 3S mouse for use with my Max Studio. So I am confused how I can get the new MX Mechanical keyboard and a MX 3 mouse to work with the Studio and Windows and linux systems.
Logitech is such a solid brand. Glad to see they made a low profile keyboard. Heavily considered the G915 but picked up a Keychron K3: Low profile, blue switches. The clicks feel good when gaming but I struggle typing with this thing all day. Surprisingly I really enjoy the more linear Silver switches.
I have the MX 3 mouse, MX Full size Keyboard, & MX Mini keyboard. The big one lives at home but the Mini goes with me everywhere! Great products all around.
Can you game with the MX Keys Mechanical ie. does it have minimal lag similar to G915? If so, then MX Keys Mechanical might be all-in-one solution to my gaming rig and business laptop.
Very tempted by the mechanical keyboard there. My desk is actually so messy with all of my wired peripherals, I should really switch to a wireless one. The auto hand detection is really nice because I hate having backlight on when I'm trying to watch a video.
love the sound design in the video
I got the white MX Master 3s and have zero issues with it paired to my M1 iMac. I'm not using the dongle for connectivity but it still works very well. Logitech's software also detects my mouse so I'm able to customize it.
Sais the proximity light-up detector debuted on the Craft keyboard while Logitech has been doing this since before the MX Performance Keyboard+Mouse combo was out..:)) Nice and accurate review dude!!!
Love their mx lineup, but did they finally add on board storage to that mouse (so you can connect it to other device, and have your settings, without downloading their app)?
Nice man!!!Great job. Brazil!!
Thanks for the great review.
Love the ASMR portion 😍
but wow the linear sounds so good. even the space bar sounds likes it's really well made
I am using the MX Master 3S and the MX Mechanical Mini for Mac. Both excellent devices and the best keyboard and mouse combo I have ever had in my life.
thanks for the video review. QQ: Are you able to pair MX keyboard receiver with the MX 3(not 3s) mouse also?
I can vouch for the battery longevity when the LEDs are off though. I have both the MX and its Mini version and they consistently last for months without the lights.
Hey! Loved the review and I'm definitely getting myself the mechanical mini to go with my master 3s. I was just wondering if you ever got a response about the compatibility issues with silicon? I've tried contacting them myself and I see a lot of people saying they've tried as well on reddit etc. But to no avail. It's also so strange that there has not been a firmware update for it after it was released? It also seems like it isn't supported for updates through Logi options+ cause the firmware update tool does not recognize or find my mouse..? If they just could fix the issues here this would be the best mouse by a long shot!
I've had connectivity issues with m1 mac and the master 3, it's basically the Bluetooth fails to recognise the mouse. But somehow after reinstalling the software it starts to work again, so maybe you should try that with the 3s?
I still think the volume wheel on the 915 makes it the better home keyboard. Wasn't sure about it when I bought it, but I use it all the time now. I'll buy an MX Mechanical in an instant if I end up desk jockeying at work though.
Same with the 3S. Great for office, but not enough of a change to justify replacing my MX Master 3 at home.
At some points, I didn't understand what you are talking because of the amazing quality of the video (good speech though!). Great work!
I used to get G915 for a year, and just got MX mechanical days ago. Absolutely love it more than G915. The MX mechanical is the perfect combination of G915 and MX keys.
Honestly, that price is better than I expected from Logitech. I’m rocking my K2 still, but this is definitely on my radar!
why will u buy this if u hv a keychron lol
@@this_katharsis2227 because he needs a low profile keyboard, and logitech low profile keyboards do not have any competition in terms of typing experience and build quality. I also have keychron k1V4, and g915. there is really no comparison, although the g915 is much more expensive. you get what you pay for.
@@SoulstormGR should i buy 915 or this one? I will buy gpro x wireless mose but im wondering abt keyboard. Im gamer and programmer so need something that'll fit both
Tyy
@@mm1nt Difficult to answer, I haven't typed on the MX yet.
I have tried maybe 50-60 different keyboards, and I have now migrated to custom keyboards (gmmk pro, kbd67 lite).
But: the G915 is an absolute beast and THE best production keyboard I have used. Huge battery life, excellent build quality, excellent typing experience (brown tactiles), and great for software engineers (I am one, too). Long typing sessions (16 hours of working remotely) and I haven't felt any fatigue. It seems that the MX takes some new switches (Kailh Choc V2, the G915 has Choc V1, the V2s are a tiny bit higher).
G915 Complaints: Keycaps are prone to breaking if you remove them to clean your keyboard (you need a wired keycaps puller to be safe), and they wobble a bit, both have been fixed with the new switch in the MX, it seems. Also, you can find keycaps for the MX easier, due to the more standard stem
My take: wait for the MX and try it alongside a G915 in a store that allows you to. I believe you can't go wrong with buying either of those.
@@SoulstormGR if what I pay for is a rattly spacebar then yes
This review is so professional I feel like it was bought and paid for by Logitech - and then you have a sponsor to boot.
One of the biggest issues with these logitech LP keys is that you can't get replacement caps, really wish they would sell the sets as the ABS wears out pretty fast
Agreed. Unless you’re an enthusiast, there really should be no reason to buy multiple keyboards besides replacing a broken one. The nice thing about affordable mech kbs is that they’re easy to clean and repair. The switch aspect is just a part of it. Again, unless you’re into kbs.
Keychron and Nuphy are great alternatives imho
yes the same issue with all low-profile mechs, keycaps are just as is and there is no replacements so far unless u get a donor kb
@@SensibleClem Not true. Maybe this is new since your comment, but NuPhy sells their keycaps separately, including the low profile ones. I don't know if they'll work with this keyboard, but if you bought a NuPhy Air you could replace the keycaps as needed.
Best review Great job
VERY useful video Thank you
I've been a long time user of the Master Mouse series and the new one is just so brilliant in my opinion. The clicky sound has been muted. The scroll and click buttons are so pleasant to use now. the MX keyboard is also brilliant. (silent tactile switches) The best one I've tried. I am a developer and a casual gamer. My advice for people like me is to run and buy these things.
The design is incredibly PRECIOUS, that’s why it deserves the price it has 😍
I recently bought the mechanical mini and master 3s to upgrade my desk set up, all being well they will arrive tomorrow. I had been thinking for a while about getting a mechanincal keyboard, I know this is a bit more expensive compared to to the likes of RK84, Nuphy Air 75 and Keychron 3 but Logitech make amazing keyboards and software that goes with it.
Is Logitech Bolt fast enough that it can be used for competitive gaming? Or does it least use the data connection via USB-C for a lag-free connection? I desperately want this keyboard, but if I can't use it for gaming, I'll be looking for another option.
the room backlight change with the color of the switch. effort++++
I use the OG MX Master mouse for work, and the side scroll wheel is super clutch for viewing excel and PDF documents
Please make an in-depth review of the new Zenbook Pro 14 Duo. Really curious about the UX for the software. I believe you guys are the best reviewer to bring detailed information about that device. Thanks
I've been using MX Mechanical full size and 3S Mouse for a week. It's really great.
Smart illumination did not debut on the Logitech Craft keyboard. My Logitech K800 from 2010 had that feature where it uses sensors to know when your hands are close and illuminates :)
I guess the question I have is, which would give the smoothest transition for a MX Keys user?
Can this keyboard be paid with Lightspeed receiver, or vice-versa?
I am using a G502 Lightspeed and wish to only plug it one receiver, thanks for your answer in advance!
Kudos for avoiding those weird and annoying sounds during the video. A massive improvement over your previous videos!
There were only two this time...
2:42 that one was ok.
11:56 ok as well, but the sound is creepy.
Hey great video thanks !