@@jessilozano6566 You do know the Joker from DC. In the outside he is terrible & annoying only, but in the inside - He's dangerous, psychopatic & intimidated. Like the people in mirror universe. They looked friendly, but dangerous in the inside that you should be really careful who you're messing with. Depends of how you met & know about them either friend or foe. Like everyone said "We all have our darksides".
No one's going to talk about how Killy is standing there off screen and comes into frame? I think that's my favorite part. It's the definition of "I am the one who knocks." Or the silent fear of when a hit man is after you and finds you when you least expect it.
The mirror universe is like a Disney vacation, a great place to visit but I wouldn't want to stay too long. And discovery has just spent too long waiting for the haunted mansion in the sun
Haters: “they’re ignoring their continuity AGAIN!” Me: “did you miss the bit where they CLEARLY ESTABLISH that this is set BEFORE the season 1 episodes?”
I guess you could call this a "moment of humanity". Noticed how Killey and Owo surmised the situation instantly and was palpably aggravated by the display of empathy exuded by Georgiou. A turning point for the empire.
Even though the Terran Empire runs on fear, the binding force is actually the opposite: loyalty. Since when insecurity is the biggest concern, then life security is the most valuable resource that can be offered. However, this will spawn numerous factions in the regime since whoever can offer security will gain supporters. This is why Philippa forced Michael to kill his supporters; but she couldn't really deny the security that Michael can offer since Michael is still the daughter of Philippa, the next queen. The only solution to that is disavow Miachel's status, which essentially denies all of her resources, but that also means certain death to her since she lose all bargaining power, anyone can kill her without consequence. Basically Philippa took the chance and hoped for the best, this is why she passed Guardian's test: she no longer thinks like a Terran. She become Pragmatism with sympathy, which is more acceptable than Xenophobic racist native Terran, and with great potential to do great things if she goes down a right track.
This scene reminds me of the episode where checkov ambushed Kirk in the hallway for disabaying starfleet imperial orders he also got the agony Booth for the failed coup
I mean they could because translators yada yada, but more likely is that this is an imperialistic authoritarian nation and there is likely only one official language that is allowed (might not be English but translated for our benefit.)
A simple question: how a bunch of chronical backstabber psycopaths/mass murderers succeded in creating and maintaning an Empire for more than some years? The whole system should've crumbled in months if everyone tried to kill each other, only sheer brutality and ferocity didn't bode well for government (remember how long was the HUNS' empire?)
A very old comment to be sure, but still; The Terrans are supposedly the continuation of the Roman Empire, should it have never fallen. Consider that, before it fell, it lasted a very long time.
Although I do enjoy DIS to a certain extent, I always felt DIS characters in prime universe are vastly inferior to old Trek in terms of "dailogue weight". I think it is because they somehow are often given super long lines and deliver them way too fast, making supposedly serious scenes feel casual and unimportant. The DIS mirror universe however seems to be the opposite, just like DS9 they speak slow, and have good use of pauses in between to show that they are really thinking things as they speak.
Lorca cannot die. Georgiu knows the truth of the Al-Chidr "with the strength of many men", no matter he looks like Lorca, Boba Fett, Patrick Bet-David, Super Grover, Mysterion, The Huntsman, Edgar Várese, Poe Dameron, Michael Franzese, Dean Martin
The one lady with the mohawk looked super disappointed that the captain didn't get killed. I've never seen the show because I refuse to pay for another subscription, so I don't know whats going on.
Mirror universe doesn't really work when the prime universe in STD is so fuckin dark anyways. There's no distinguishing between the two other than the usual gaudy uniform changes.
The show runners really made mirror Tilly beautiful then said “nah fuck that” and kept her as this nerdy “tee hee, look at me! I’m so quirky” annoying character for the remainder of the show.
🤷♂️ It’s a 21st century remake of “Flash Gordon.” What a Saturday-afternoon at the movies. My vote is for the idiot who approved the emperor’s headdress.
@@travisjames1437 Nah not for me. This episode compared to even one of the worst TNG episodes was still better than this is. The acting is way too exaugurated and just doesn't feel like Star Trek. That episode with the Spock reference not too long ago was magnificent!! If they could just keep doing things like that there would be nothing to complain about.
@@SoulHorizon1313 Yeah. Those episodes like “The Royale”, “Shades of Gray”, etc., were stellar! Lol! And in TNG, DS9, VOY we never saw Andorians, Tellarites, Orion’s, etc. It was strictly “aliens of the well.” That’s all gone now, thankfully.
If “Star Trek Discovery” was trying to give the audience the feel of the “30’s Flash Gordon, or Buck Roger” than they should gone with the costumes, and music too. It felt the people behind the making of this episode didn’t do their research. More like slapped together.
This is a better Burnham the one on disco is to bizy tryna make the story about herself she can cry a lot its just bad writing pissis on cannon they should of called it star trek Burnham
If you like the Next Generation Sgows, this one is not like them. It has a high pace, and while it has good ideas, nothing has time to develop, we hardly know the characters (we didn't know the names of the bridge crew until season 2), everything revolves around 1 crewmember, nothing registers. It's a whirlwind of good ideas going by without further impact. Hardly any philosophical questions beeing asked or answered, hardly space any exploration, everything focused on an overall arc around one character.
It's a super cool show. I watch certain episodes over and over again. It's very different from anything we've ever seen. And there is definitely character development. I don't know why people say there isn't.
@@seanlamont8501 There isn't character development. Ask yourself this question, if the character wasn't in a life and death situation, and the plot wasn't driving their reactions what would they do? If you don't have a clue the character development is crap. What would Burnham do just hanging out? I don't know. I don't know what music she listens to, what kind of art she enjoys, her favorite foods. I can name these things about characters from good Trek shows.
A moment of apprechiation for Owo, the silent killer guard that spreads fear amongst the enemies of the empire without saying a word.
Discovery DEFINITELY had the absolute best depiction of the Mirror universe in the entire Trek lore
Nah. The TNG mirror universe comics are better. Ripped Picard. Data with a gatling gun arm. Riker with extra long beard. It's amazing stuff.
Better than DS9, but woefully behind Enterprise and the original.
@@alphanerd7221 I'd say Enterprise is 1A and Discovery 1B. DS9 a good #3.
@@filippofittipaldi8050 DS9 is terrible. Discovery might be better.
@@TheBigExclusive is that a joke 😂
Michelle Yeoh is an incredible actress, she played this perfectly. Brilliant.
I actually LOVE her!!!!!
@@kkingkkai0074 same !!
The way Burnham smiles, she looks like the Joker
I agree
Yeah but quite creepy & insane.
@@donpula6349 isn’t the joke supposed to insane and creepy?
@@jessilozano6566 You do know the Joker from DC. In the outside he is terrible & annoying only, but in the inside - He's dangerous, psychopatic & intimidated. Like the people in mirror universe. They looked friendly, but dangerous in the inside that you should be really careful who you're messing with. Depends of how you met & know about them either friend or foe. Like everyone said "We all have our darksides".
We live in a society , a murder society
No one's going to talk about how Killy is standing there off screen and comes into frame? I think that's my favorite part. It's the definition of "I am the one who knocks." Or the silent fear of when a hit man is after you and finds you when you least expect it.
Delivery of "If you have something to say to me, say it." was perfection.
Honestly, I'm never tired of their dramas 😑
Let's face it... Michelle Yeoh is brilliant in terms of subtleties in acting.
She is in the upper echelon of actors on a worldwide scale.
She's killing it. Literally and figuratively. Lol.
@@shaftoe195 Hard to believe she's 58.
I'd love to see her do a comedy, see if she's as good in that as she is in drama and action.
@@astrofan1993
She was in Crazy Rich Asians if that counts. I mean she played a serious role but nonetheless..
0:10 - when your sibling rats you out to parents.
The mirror universe is like a Disney vacation, a great place to visit but I wouldn't want to stay too long. And discovery has just spent too long waiting for the haunted mansion in the sun
Owo is in on it look at her reaction when geogiou pulls the sword 3:00 like she's worried Michael is going to die and then is relieved at the end 😂
I love Tilly and Owosekun in this scene
You mean Killy. In the mirror universe they called her captain Killy. The master interrogator & torturer.
Damn, this poor girl has SO many parents!
Damn.. tilly kicked her in the face... She's a angry lil thing isn't she?
What d'ya expect? Her nickname-given by Empress Georgiou, no less-is _Captain Killy._
I bet Tilliy's actress has wanted to do that to Mikey Spock for ages.
This is the Terran universe.
What do you expect from a terrain.
"our future is unwritten shall we?" she continued a written future unknowingly while knowing the future.
Mirror Tilly is fire
fat fire
@@LordTalax Thick good sir thick and it is sexy!
Haters: “they’re ignoring their continuity AGAIN!”
Me: “did you miss the bit where they CLEARLY ESTABLISH that this is set BEFORE the season 1 episodes?”
And they are still retarded in their plot points.
Emperor Georgiou’s stylist in the Mirror Universe was clearly a drag queen. That headpiece is eleganza personified!
She’s slayinnn over there
No, it's inspired by 40K. It's meant to be an Iron Halo
@noabsolutelynot3660 Well that ain't what it's givin'
Daughter of Rome🥇🥇🥇🥇
Evil Owo is awesome
I had no idea she was so tall!
@@TheBloodyPoint Well, Burnam is not really tall. 164 cm
大昔から、それこそ初代のスタートレックから、この手の「みんな悪者バージョン・スタートレック」は、やっている役者たちが生き生きしているなあ！
演っていてみんな、楽しんだろうなあ！！
その楽しさが観ている方にも感じられて、私も大好きなのでした。
Anyone notice how Terran theatre is so entertaining ?
Yep and if CBS was to make 2 different versions of this show I know dam well everyone would stop saying it sucks ....when it don't.
@@TwistedSecrets777 a Terran spinoff ?
@@Reprodestruxion Yep a whole different show aside from discovery since i doubt Georgio is going to be able to go back to the Universe Michael is
@@TwistedSecrets777 about time Space wuxia becomes a genre
@@TwistedSecrets777 worst Trek ever.
Is it just me or does Mike is hamming it up? I mean she actually growled in part two!
I wonder what was going through Burnham and Owosekun's actresses minds as they stared into each other's eyes
Mirror georgiou is so badass.
I guess you could call this a "moment of humanity". Noticed how Killey and Owo surmised the situation instantly and was palpably aggravated by the display of empathy exuded by Georgiou. A turning point for the empire.
And yet despite this, they were among the few who were loyal to the end, which is interesting.
Even though the Terran Empire runs on fear, the binding force is actually the opposite: loyalty.
Since when insecurity is the biggest concern, then life security is the most valuable resource that can be offered.
However, this will spawn numerous factions in the regime since whoever can offer security will gain supporters.
This is why Philippa forced Michael to kill his supporters; but she couldn't really deny the security that Michael can offer since Michael is still the daughter of Philippa, the next queen.
The only solution to that is disavow Miachel's status, which essentially denies all of her resources, but that also means certain death to her since she lose all bargaining power, anyone can kill her without consequence.
Basically Philippa took the chance and hoped for the best, this is why she passed Guardian's test: she no longer thinks like a Terran. She become Pragmatism with sympathy, which is more acceptable than Xenophobic racist native Terran, and with great potential to do great things if she goes down a right track.
This scene reminds me of the episode where checkov ambushed Kirk in the hallway for disabaying starfleet imperial orders he also got the agony Booth for the failed coup
You clearly read my mind 🤣
I could a season with that universe! LIVE LONG AND PROSPER or in this universe LIVE BY THE SWORD ⚔️ AND DIE BY THE SWORD 🗡😎
@Tejesh Patel True! But they love their swords!
You mean
GLORY TO THE EMPIRE
Love this. Also, that outro was super soothing.
You can always tell the evil universe by the eyeliner
Man, this Burhnam was vicious.
They should speak in cantonese as an intimate code between the 2 of them
I mean they could because translators yada yada, but more likely is that this is an imperialistic authoritarian nation and there is likely only one official language that is allowed (might not be English but translated for our benefit.)
@@kwanteikkhow230 hence the need to code in singhalese
Looks like everyone found the transmog vendor.
Love this show
How sharper than a serpent's tooth, is the betrayal of an ungrateful child.
(yeah, changed a little bit)
2:13 - 2:30 Love Mirror Burnham's "Joker'' moment. SMQ should've gotten an Emmy nomination for this.
Best Overacting in a TV Series?
@@StuartKerrigan LOL!!
It felt like a kid trying to hard in a school play
A lot of people haven't seen the OT. Overacting used to be the norm. 🤣
They tend to to give Emmys to people that can't act at all.
the Agonizer . I bet that Phlox from the federation regrets that his counterpart in the mirror universe invented that machine .
I have new "Hello Captain" now.... :)))
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HeLLo CaPtAiN..... (Smile smile smile face....)
Mary Wiseman was the best part of this show.
Respectfully disagree, Doug Jones is!
Mirror Burnham is so scary but hot at the same time!! 😍😍😍
It is strange to have swords as a weapon in a futuristic sci-fi!!! 😂
It reminds me of Sulu with the fencing foil.
Have you not seen the training scene from Starship Troopers? You must not have.
@@Emanuela9 But Sulu had that as sport equipment and only was using it because he was high.
The Kilgions still use swords, several other scifi sword users the Commando droids from Star Wars the Clone Wars and the Predators from... Predator.
Short swords make excellent close-combat weapons in confined environments.
Should've put Michael in the Comfy Chair.
No,no not the comfy chair..😂🤣
Burnham: Dew it. 😡
A simple question: how a bunch of chronical backstabber psycopaths/mass murderers succeded in creating and maintaning an Empire for more than some years? The whole system should've crumbled in months if everyone tried to kill each other, only sheer brutality and ferocity didn't bode well for government (remember how long was the HUNS' empire?)
A very old comment to be sure, but still; The Terrans are supposedly the continuation of the Roman Empire, should it have never fallen. Consider that, before it fell, it lasted a very long time.
They had future tech.
sonequa martin-green the actress that you are 😍
I don't know what an agonizer is, but it sounds exquisite.
This show is not the greatest but it does have good scenes like this one.
Going to have to watch the show now just to see how that situation plays out.
4:01 sounds like Michael's making the Roblox death noise
Carl is a temporal Agent.....Agent Daniel's did things like this with Captain Archer...many times.
Guardian of Forever maybe.
I think Carl is a Q.
@@shaftoe195 But aren't Q pretty straight-forward and up-front when it comes to their intentions? Carl, so far, hasn't been clear at all
Nope. Temporal Agents are now outlawed.
@@travisjames3517 its a s'31 thing
Idk what y'all say this show on my top list
Girl is literally made into whatever the princess version is to an Emperor and Michael is still ungrateful.
Love Terran Tilly.
I can't wait to see Michelle Yeoh in Marvel's Shang Chi and the 10 Rings.
Although I do enjoy DIS to a certain extent, I always felt DIS characters in prime universe are vastly inferior to old Trek in terms of "dailogue weight". I think it is because they somehow are often given super long lines and deliver them way too fast, making supposedly serious scenes feel casual and unimportant.
The DIS mirror universe however seems to be the opposite, just like DS9 they speak slow, and have good use of pauses in between to show that they are really thinking things as they speak.
Execute me, daddy OwO
lots of shade going
she reminds me of Prudence from Chilling Adventures of Sabrina.... :P
Post-clip music is much better here. ... Had been a bit of an annoyance during quiet clips to get hit immediately after with loud music.
Lorca cannot die. Georgiu knows the truth of the Al-Chidr "with the strength of many men", no matter he looks like Lorca,
Boba Fett, Patrick Bet-David, Super Grover, Mysterion, The Huntsman, Edgar Várese, Poe Dameron, Michael Franzese, Dean Martin
They look like they just stepped out of the 40K universe.
What episode is this?
Discovery Season 3: Episode 9: Terra Firma Part: 1
As someone who's never seen an episode of Discovery...
So we're already revisiting the mirror universe, huh?
sry did i mis something, because this looks more like" as the world turns" then Star trek
The one lady with the mohawk looked super disappointed that the captain didn't get killed. I've never seen the show because I refuse to pay for another subscription, so I don't know whats going on.
the new power rangers looks great!
New season of Power Rangers looks dope.
Mirror universe doesn't really work when the prime universe in STD is so fuckin dark anyways. There's no distinguishing between the two other than the usual gaudy uniform changes.
The show runners really made mirror Tilly beautiful then said “nah fuck that” and kept her as this nerdy “tee hee, look at me! I’m so quirky” annoying character for the remainder of the show.
Tomara que lancem logo o spin-off da Michelle yeoh logo
🤷♂️ It’s a 21st century remake of “Flash Gordon.” What a Saturday-afternoon at the movies. My vote is for the idiot who approved the emperor’s headdress.
Anyone notice the long scar on Owo's left cheek? I wonder how she got it. . .
She was in a fight with Rhys or Bryce I think earlier on in that episode
She b crazzzzy
Tilly makes a great bad girl 🤩
Say what you like about this show, in this sceen she’s actually pretty scary.
You can't even take this show seriously as a star Trek franchise.
A good show doesn't look or feel fake. Look at how over dramatic the characters are. It has the feel of a soap opera.
Star Trek ain’t what it used to be .
I don't remember this scene?!
Hi captain !! It's scene from season 3 episode name : Terra Firma part 1
If she killed her she would have made the situation worse.
That was like watching the 5th grade talent show theatre kids try and win 1st place with their contrived acting
Jesus! That show is sssoooooo baddd!!
Just a very bad episode
@@SoulHorizon1313 it's not
If this were male characters, the fans would be going nuts.
@@travisjames1437 Nah not for me. This episode compared to even one of the worst TNG episodes was still better than this is.
The acting is way too exaugurated and just doesn't feel like Star Trek. That episode with the Spock reference not too long ago was magnificent!! If they could just keep doing things like that there would be nothing to complain about.
@@SoulHorizon1313 Yeah. Those episodes like “The Royale”, “Shades of Gray”, etc., were stellar! Lol! And in TNG, DS9, VOY we never saw Andorians, Tellarites, Orion’s, etc. It was strictly “aliens of the well.” That’s all gone now, thankfully.
Just crying, even in the inverted universe
If “Star Trek Discovery” was trying to give the audience the feel of the “30’s Flash Gordon, or Buck Roger” than they should gone with the costumes, and music too. It felt the people behind the making of this episode didn’t do their research. More like slapped together.
woman, woman everywhere xD
They do this stupid timeline skew again? Oh lord
Should have done it, could have saved trek
Wow
CBS...pleazzzzze fix this show!
Spheretext
This is a better Burnham the one on disco is to bizy tryna make the story about herself she can cry a lot its just bad writing pissis on cannon they should of called it star trek Burnham
Wow. That acting is bad.
What kind of freak show is this?
Girl Power in Space, worst STar Trek Series ever!
I thought Discovery is the Agonizer.
Michelle Yeoh is the most successful actress from east Asia.. because she can speak English very good..
Wow, all this bad acting. Please do it!
Ok so can someone tell me if this show is legit the shizz? I actually like star trek.
If you like the Next Generation Sgows, this one is not like them. It has a high pace, and while it has good ideas, nothing has time to develop, we hardly know the characters (we didn't know the names of the bridge crew until season 2), everything revolves around 1 crewmember, nothing registers. It's a whirlwind of good ideas going by without further impact. Hardly any philosophical questions beeing asked or answered, hardly space any exploration, everything focused on an overall arc around one character.
@@pedasn oh man, that doesn't sound good at all.
It's a super cool show. I watch certain episodes over and over again. It's very different from anything we've ever seen. And there is definitely character development. I don't know why people say there isn't.
It's really bad.
@@seanlamont8501 There isn't character development. Ask yourself this question, if the character wasn't in a life and death situation, and the plot wasn't driving their reactions what would they do? If you don't have a clue the character development is crap. What would Burnham do just hanging out? I don't know. I don't know what music she listens to, what kind of art she enjoys, her favorite foods. I can name these things about characters from good Trek shows.
This is how Star Trek always should have been!!
Kinda cringe
that show is a mess