Everybody saying how much she's changed, well it's not surprising. For the first time in her life she's lived and worked alongside people who aren't looking to stab her in the back, people she can trust to watch out for her. She scoffed and sneered but then goes back and realises every person in that room would happily shoot her if they thought they could get away with it.
Not just get away with shooting her in the back but profit from it career wise that is if there not shot dead f or r there trouble or knifed in the chest
Amuch better example of how to live ,, I could say within all human beings they can choose good vs evil I could also say like christianity changed the world from the paganism to its better world but might cause some to be " triggered "
I find it amazing that any level of society can exist where sadism and murder is so casual. No one is alert enough 24/7 to keep from getting a knife in their back at a completely random moment.
I like how this party mirrors the party scene in the "Magic to make the sanest man go mad". It's in the same part of the ship, and it has the same people going, but everything else is just so different. Really shows the differences between the universes
I was totally not into this ST till . .. Till I gave it a chance and started to enjoy what it was for what it is. I don't care about the connection it has to the previous series, this is just fun.
all the reactions of Georgiou in this scene reminded me of a little exchange in DS9 about root beer : -Quark :"but you know what's really frightening. if you drink enough of it you begin to like it" -Garak :"It's insidious" -Quark :"Just like the Federation" After being in contact with prime Saru and prime Michael for so long i think Georgiou is beginning to "Federalize". After all it's "Insidious" ;-)
Remember what Eddington said about the Federation being worse than the Borg: at least the Borg warned you before they assimilate you. When the Federation assimilates you, not only won't they warn you first, but it'll happen without your even knowing it.
You should be greatful for that fact the augmentin arium suffocated the bridge Crew of the shenzhou and launched a bio weapon at starfleet headquarters and made herself emperor of the terran empire in the expanded comic series that took place after the event in season one
My goodness georgiou really is bothered how evil her own people are and how her ... Own daughter is talented she is na I'm not scared to say how evil she is its interesting that georgiou yeah still an evil witch but she's changed a lot she even looks like hinted that idea of blinding and cutting off the artist hands made well kinda horrified by it not to the same level like a normal person would be but that face is there none the less And I think the idea of eating aliens I believes makes her feel sick or its not her favorite idea of food anymore man she's changed a lot actually
Blinding the artists, is a reference to similar Russian acts towards palace architects. They didn't do it to increase value though - they did so only they would enjoy the best.
Wouldn't say soft or weak I would say wiser she relishing that terran people at times can be unnecessary brutal cutting and blinded a artist to increase his work value not cool
Could you imagine, in order to make up for the lack of Mirror-Universe episodes in The Next Generation, that the Star Trek showrunners gave us several Mirror-Universe episodes, or, even better, an entire Season-Story-Arc of Star Trek: Picard, where Picard, etc., find themselves in the evil Mirror-Universe, alongside an evil Mirror-Picard, an evil Mirror-Data, an evil Mirror-Seven of Nine, an evil Mirror-Riker, an evil Mirror-Guinan, and, most especially, an evil Mirror-Q...?! 😲 Because I can! And THAT would be soooooo fucking AWESOME and PHENOMENAL! 😀
Not Picard that wouldn't make sense but I but discovery could go to the future were there was a terran empire then but I don't know if Mary wiseman could do two shows and the actress that played arium not to mention you said something about Q not happening there is only one Q continuum and they have the power to even Cross barrier to all the multiverses
I'm with you on a mirror everybody except for Q because you have to look at q can cross space dimensions everything he's omnipotent so there's no way that it would be a mirror Q
@@demarcusfaulkner7411 Not if the showrunners explain it away by revealing that there are an infinite number of Q's existing all throughout Time and Space in the Star Trek Multiverse, which is exactly how Q is able to be omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. Q is essentially God in the Star Trek franchise. Q is even light and dark, good and evil. Just like God. Just read "Isaiah 45:7". Both Q and God are "Beyond Good and Evil". Because They have to be. This is basic, classic Nietzschean Nihilism at its best.
@@demarcusfaulkner7411 And every single one of the infinite number of John de Lancie Q's existing throughout the entire Multiverse are all essentially alternate, parallel, fragmented, Multiversal doppelgänger tangents of the Prime-Source-Q-Entity, and are therefore, subject and bound to Their particular Universe's collective-sentience-herd-mentality (in this case, the dark, evil mentality of the Terran Empire of the Mirror Universe), as well as directly and indirectly influencing and forcing Their will, mentality, way, laws, and ideology upon the Beings of Their particular Universe. Exactly like how Prime-Q did with Captain Picard and his Enterprise crew in Star Trek: The Next Generation. Hence, a dark, evil, Mirror-Universe-Q influencing the evil mentality of the Terrans of the Terran Empire of the Mirror-Universe is not only very possible, but also very logical, and, a mathematical certainty.
Exiled hundreds of years in the future finding it's way inside a Federation a shadow of it's former self...but no let's dick about in the mirror universe.
I wonder about the Terrans. If they never pulled Emperor out of their universe what would become of them in the mirror Alpha Quadrant. We already know they conquered all neighbours, Andor, Vulcan, evern the Klingons, we dont know nothing about the Romulans in this universe but I bet theyre the next targed. Then Cardassia, Bajor, etc etc ... They eventually conquer the whole Alpha and Beta quadrant....... But without the emperor we know that things got bad for terrans in the next century.... They would be destroyed and turned to slaves. So sad 😁 I would love to see a what if episode.
I like to think that there are alternate dimensions where the tarran empire ruled supreme and we're only defeated by the collapse of the universe. LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!
@@manemperorofmankind8119 It is nice to be in such fine company. Although, I am rather impressed at the "mother of the fatherland," title. Plus, with all that gold, methinks the Terrans might be riffing on aforesaid Glorious Overlord
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System Its not man portable but it could be with newer batteries and electronics. Also its a ranged weapon (man portable version is in early testing). The intent is for moving people or making them stay put, but turn the power up or get close enough and its like being microwaved.
I wish the show was mostly in this parallel universe, SOOOO much more investing the crew are ruthless and far more interesting than the woke insipid bores in the Federation Universe. I wonder if the shows writers realise that this part of Discovery is way more interesting.
I wonder if its only more interesting because the prime universe is less interesting. I wont deny that the mirror universe episodes are some of the best in Trek generally, but like fine wine its a thing that is worth much more due to its rarity. Discovery spending half the first season there on the other hand seemed pointlessly stretched out to me, given it wasnt nearly as interesting as most other Trek episodes. Personally I would love it if Discovery found a middle path, that shows prime universe humans being less than perfect, because right now they are twice as holy as Picard with 1% of the effort.
@Tejesh Patel nope season 1 and 2 where brilliant, very cool. Season 3 is preachy, insipid, one speech after another. Saru who i found interesting in season 1 and 2 is the most annoying. The entire Klingons angle in Season 1 and 2 very cool, thats gone. Even the bad guys in season 3 are boring. It’s like the show now is being written by a bunch of woke teenagers.
@@builder396 IMO i think its much more than that. Season 1 and 2 i found brilliant, the entire Klingon angle was super interesting, i found the entire show very cool. I pretty much liked all the characters the evil parallel universe was just an added bonus on the plot, of course Empress Georgiou was one of my fav characters. Something happened in Season 3, its like there is an entire new set of writers. It’s now very preachy and simply put its just boring, like a PG 13 version thats been given an extra dumb down by some woke teenagers.
Everything in the mirror universe is supposed to be dark. If you don’t like it then don’t watch the show and go take your complaint to the makeup department
Everybody saying how much she's changed, well it's not surprising. For the first time in her life she's lived and worked alongside people who aren't looking to stab her in the back, people she can trust to watch out for her. She scoffed and sneered but then goes back and realises every person in that room would happily shoot her if they thought they could get away with it.
Mirror Phillipa and Prime Phillipa are the closest in character we've ever seen. They both are/were devoted to doing what they think is right.
Not just get away with shooting her in the back but profit from it career wise that is if there not shot dead f or r there trouble or knifed in the chest
Basically even her own daughter.
@@brianlindee1285 Sounds a lot like a Fatal Version of Office Politics to me.
Amuch better example of how to live ,, I could say within all human beings they can choose good vs evil I could also say like christianity changed the world from the paganism to its better world but might cause some to be " triggered "
"Long live the Empire!"
I love Michelle's dark, sultry timbre 😍
I find it amazing that any level of society can exist where sadism and murder is so casual. No one is alert enough 24/7 to keep from getting a knife in their back at a completely random moment.
Terran Infanta Burnham is scary amazing. I pretty much love her. And also, can we talk about Mirror Dr. Culber in that red uniform? Cute af!
I like how this party mirrors the party scene in the "Magic to make the sanest man go mad". It's in the same part of the ship, and it has the same people going, but everything else is just so different. Really shows the differences between the universes
I am standing at attention from the second she approaches Georgiou.
I really wanted to see Mirror Universe Pike..... I just think he'd look really good in the uniform lol
Check out the Star Trek Mirror Image Comic. It's all about mirror Pike and his first officer Kirk.
I was totally not into this ST till . .. Till I gave it a chance and started to enjoy what it was for what it is. I don't care about the connection it has to the previous series, this is just fun.
all the reactions of Georgiou in this scene reminded me of a little exchange in DS9 about root beer :
-Quark :"but you know what's really frightening. if you drink enough of it you begin to like it"
-Garak :"It's insidious"
-Quark :"Just like the Federation"
After being in contact with prime Saru and prime Michael for so long i think Georgiou is beginning to "Federalize".
After all it's "Insidious" ;-)
But she can't go back if she wants to stay healthy, can she?
Just like the Federation
Remember what Eddington said about the Federation being worse than the Borg: at least the Borg warned you before they assimilate you. When the Federation assimilates you, not only won't they warn you first, but it'll happen without your even knowing it.
0:36 between Culber and Stamets is Airiam, but she's still in non-augmented Human form! :)
You should be greatful for that fact the augmentin arium suffocated the bridge Crew of the shenzhou and launched a bio weapon at starfleet headquarters and made herself emperor of the terran empire in the expanded comic series that took place after the event in season one
@@brianlindee220and why should we be grateful for that?
My goodness georgiou really is bothered how evil her own people are and how her ... Own daughter is talented she is na I'm not scared to say how evil she is its interesting that georgiou yeah still an evil witch but she's changed a lot she even looks like hinted that idea of blinding and cutting off the artist hands made well kinda horrified by it not to the same level like a normal person would be but that face is there none the less And I think the idea of eating aliens I believes makes her feel sick or its not her favorite idea of food anymore man she's changed a lot actually
Agreed
Blinding the artists, is a reference to similar Russian acts towards palace architects. They didn't do it to increase value though - they did so only they would enjoy the best.
Now let's see a mirror universe series spin off
Yes! Let’s!!
I can’t take that red head seriously. She literally reminds me of a secretary at my leasing office. 🤣
It is strange for me to say that mirror Michael Burnham is hot as hell
Maybe, but in some scenes, it looks like her blue lipstick has bled onto her teeth. Disgusting!
The show should about the terran empire
Dude. . .straight fire. . .
For some reason I feel the same lol
The overacting was harder than usual to watch.
All this time with the Federation made Georgiou go soft.
Wouldn't say soft or weak I would say wiser she relishing that terran people at times can be unnecessary brutal cutting and blinded a artist to increase his work value not cool
It didn't make her soft. It made her more compassionate. She still will kill. She doesn't feel the need to break a person's spirit needlessly.
No. It made her better.
Not soft , more focus
More efficient
Our emperor
This proves it. Dubstep is from the evil, mirror universe.
Could you imagine, in order to make up for the lack of Mirror-Universe episodes in The Next Generation, that the Star Trek showrunners gave us several Mirror-Universe episodes, or, even better, an entire Season-Story-Arc of Star Trek: Picard, where Picard, etc., find themselves in the evil Mirror-Universe, alongside an evil Mirror-Picard, an evil Mirror-Data, an evil Mirror-Seven of Nine, an evil Mirror-Riker, an evil Mirror-Guinan, and, most especially, an evil Mirror-Q...?! 😲 Because I can! And THAT would be soooooo fucking AWESOME and PHENOMENAL! 😀
Not Picard that wouldn't make sense but I but discovery could go to the future were there was a terran empire then but I don't know if Mary wiseman could do two shows and the actress that played arium not to mention you said something about Q not happening there is only one Q continuum and they have the power to even Cross barrier to all the multiverses
I'm with you on a mirror everybody except for Q because you have to look at q can cross space dimensions everything he's omnipotent so there's no way that it would be a mirror Q
@@demarcusfaulkner7411 Not if the showrunners explain it away by revealing that there are an infinite number of Q's existing all throughout Time and Space in the Star Trek Multiverse, which is exactly how Q is able to be omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. Q is essentially God in the Star Trek franchise. Q is even light and dark, good and evil. Just like God. Just read "Isaiah 45:7". Both Q and God are "Beyond Good and Evil". Because They have to be. This is basic, classic Nietzschean Nihilism at its best.
@@demarcusfaulkner7411 And every single one of the infinite number of John de Lancie Q's existing throughout the entire Multiverse are all essentially alternate, parallel, fragmented, Multiversal doppelgänger tangents of the Prime-Source-Q-Entity, and are therefore, subject and bound to Their particular Universe's collective-sentience-herd-mentality (in this case, the dark, evil mentality of the Terran Empire of the Mirror Universe), as well as directly and indirectly influencing and forcing Their will, mentality, way, laws, and ideology upon the Beings of Their particular Universe. Exactly like how Prime-Q did with Captain Picard and his Enterprise crew in Star Trek: The Next Generation. Hence, a dark, evil, Mirror-Universe-Q influencing the evil mentality of the Terrans of the Terran Empire of the Mirror-Universe is not only very possible, but also very logical, and, a mathematical certainty.
@@LewisLindorr1990 makes perfect sense I never thought of it that way.
I look at if from this point of view:
Terran's SURVIVE.
Human's LIVE.
There is a difference...
These people know how to party!!!!
Don’t recognise the crew with the object on her head and second is this what the mighty Terran empire has come to?
Who else Felt bad for the Kelpians? I do.
Not me soup could have been made from a klingon i think they still would have eaten it
They are food. You don't feel sorry for chicken or cow do you traitor?
I hear they're ganglia is very tasty. No I don't feel sorry for them
No! They are subhuman cattle! they will be treated as such!
TERRA FIRMA!
this Michael is HOT
Exiled hundreds of years in the future finding it's way inside a Federation a shadow of it's former self...but no let's dick about in the mirror universe.
Well we got all next season to see the future. And the season after that most likely. This show isn't going anywhere.
damn say that three times fast ,girl 😂.. I wouldn't last long in the Terran universe
I wonder about the Terrans. If they never pulled Emperor out of their universe what would become of them in the mirror Alpha Quadrant. We already know they conquered all neighbours, Andor, Vulcan, evern the Klingons, we dont know nothing about the Romulans in this universe but I bet theyre the next targed. Then Cardassia, Bajor, etc etc ... They eventually conquer the whole Alpha and Beta quadrant....... But without the emperor we know that things got bad for terrans in the next century.... They would be destroyed and turned to slaves. So sad 😁 I would love to see a what if episode.
I like to think that there are alternate dimensions where the tarran empire ruled supreme and we're only defeated by the collapse of the universe.
LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!
So there's a title that's just Rex Andor
So many titles, who does she think she is? Kitten?
Mmmmmyes, my divine and glorious overlord
*continued references to oiled abs and not-so-subtle inuendos*
@@alexandermackie7621 alas a man of culture and taste!!
@@manemperorofmankind8119 It is nice to be in such fine company.
Although, I am rather impressed at the "mother of the fatherland," title.
Plus, with all that gold, methinks the Terrans might be riffing on aforesaid Glorious Overlord
@@alexandermackie7621 that one is indeed interesting! And yes they are on a good start, but they need more gold!!
@@manemperorofmankind8119 Never enough of that.
Six months? What's a month that's not on earth?
Mirror Burnham is frickin' hot
Wooow. 😲 This show is on fire! Surround all those haters in flame!! Please!!! 🙌
Pfft
Does anyone know if the portable agonizer is a technology that could exist there opposite of a stun gun those just numb not cause pain
Perhaps it's setting up the Section 31 Series somehow?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System
Its not man portable but it could be with newer batteries and electronics. Also its a ranged weapon (man portable version is in early testing). The intent is for moving people or making them stay put, but turn the power up or get close enough and its like being microwaved.
ngl Terran Micharl Burnham was sexy af
Damn this looks too comical, especially the portrayal of villainy.
I can barely take it seriously.
Spheretext
Momma Tilly, yes, Empress Georgiou, will serve eternally yes, also did they really use their own agony tech as a party favor xD
If I got stuck in that universe I would never want to leave I would probably survive too
I wish the show was mostly in this parallel universe, SOOOO much more investing the crew are ruthless and far more interesting than the woke insipid bores in the Federation Universe. I wonder if the shows writers realise that this part of Discovery is way more interesting.
I wonder if its only more interesting because the prime universe is less interesting. I wont deny that the mirror universe episodes are some of the best in Trek generally, but like fine wine its a thing that is worth much more due to its rarity. Discovery spending half the first season there on the other hand seemed pointlessly stretched out to me, given it wasnt nearly as interesting as most other Trek episodes.
Personally I would love it if Discovery found a middle path, that shows prime universe humans being less than perfect, because right now they are twice as holy as Picard with 1% of the effort.
@Tejesh Patel nope season 1 and 2 where brilliant, very cool. Season 3 is preachy, insipid, one speech after another. Saru who i found interesting in season 1 and 2 is the most annoying. The entire Klingons angle in Season 1 and 2 very cool, thats gone. Even the bad guys in season 3 are boring. It’s like the show now is being written by a bunch of woke teenagers.
@@builder396 IMO i think its much more than that. Season 1 and 2 i found brilliant, the entire Klingon angle was super interesting, i found the entire show very cool. I pretty much liked all the characters the evil parallel universe was just an added bonus on the plot, of course Empress Georgiou was one of my fav characters. Something happened in Season 3, its like there is an entire new set of writers. It’s now very preachy and simply put its just boring, like a PG 13 version thats been given an extra dumb down by some woke teenagers.
@Tejesh Patel does virtue signaling make you feel good ? cause if it does you are doing it for the wrong reasons ...
I didn't think they could've screwed up the mirror storyline than they did on this show but then they did with each new mirror episode.
I've been saying that STD was missing something...I don't think Goth Burnham was it.
They were too dumb to realize a woman is called an empress.
Saavik was called “Mr. Saavik”, so gender titles do t mean very much anymore.
Empress Sato and her dynasty enforced gender equality in the Empire.
tom holland
This is the other side of the woke coin. We saw it when the Canadian Parliament clapped the visiting WW2 Nazi fascists.
I don't like her lipstick 💄
Everything in the mirror universe is supposed to be dark. If you don’t like it then don’t watch the show and go take your complaint to the makeup department
Why does a military entity like the Terrans dress like power rangers? Oh and doing a batman voice does not equal intensity in acting.
Burnham (Sonequa Martin-Green)...the most annoying character in any show.
That would be Wesley crusher
Sonequa Martin-Green is one of the worst actresses I've ever seen