arguably taxation implies that there is not peace unless 100% of those taxed do it voluntarily... facing penalties and fees or being taken off to jail by lethally armed government officials simply for not giving the government money that they say you must simply for existing is not peace.
The spoils of peace do exist. It is growth of the species that adds to you. New technologies, culture. That is the ultimate spoil of peace. A dead race offers nothing. The same principles applied to the Borg where they do not assimilate whole species even if they can. If they value and see the species as something that can evolve them, they only take what they need. Do you really think they have no power to conquer the while Alpha Quadrant or even the galaxy? They absolutely can but choose not to.
"I will kill all of you" the viciousness of her in that part - color me impressed. And the "Why can't they just believe what I say" - I'm sure every parent has had that 🤣
The pain agonizer has been perfected over the decades to direct intense severe pain to the parietal lobe of the brain. At a certain level that tolerance is overwhelmed and directed to various stimuli across pain receptors all over the body. The agonizing pain booth can direct intensity towards any area it deems more receptive for maximum effect.
God bless the evolution of special effects did you notice that the emperor had a Tantalus field in her State room on discovery which captain killy was aware of given she was one of her supporters in the empire
The Mirror Universe is messed up. The Terrans are assholes but in DS9 the subjugated are assholes too. (Both groups are entertaining, evil Major Kira, and evil Worf.) There appears to be little difference between the two. Although poor Garak is screwed in both realities.
Would you rather have your species on top and prosperous no matter how the society is or would you like to see the human race beaten down and broken and forced into manual labor not to mention terran empire exists in countless multiverses besides the terran people are what we are without the rules law's and curtain restrictions at are core we can be brutal savage heartless murderous and all that fun stuff that would help us alive I'm surprised you didn't get that it's about who we are as a race and what are true nature is like
@@3adgamd3r it's what we are in are true nature beneath the surface of are nature as humans beings are species fights over the stupidest thing not to mention if it weren't for the law's of man and those too enforce it we would kill every person that meant us harm or was a threat to one future survival and that of there families
The one real thing that doomed the Empire to wither and die was not alien armies, it wasn't intergalactic foes or hideous cyborgs. It was one neverending thing. The patient dark of space. The Empire had conquered and either destroyed or subjugated every world within its ability to reach. But warp technology in all realities is a product of cautious and measured improvements. It still took years to reach distant areas of the galaxy. And this was due to the constraints of the ultimate warp factor in Star Trek, and that was at least until the late late 24th Century and early 25th Century. And that was warp 10. And until slipstream and transwarp drive was invented, all known dimensions would be constrained to this limit. So that basically left the Empire with only three options. Option 1: Send sleeper ships with crews in stasis for decades to reach other quadrants of space and with sufficient resources to establish conquests of their own. (Risky and expensive, as the Empire would only know of their successes or failures after a signal taking years finally reached Terra. And that's assuming anyone even wants to inform the Empire). Option 2: Survive long enough to either invent transwarp or slipstream drive, steal it from an advanced alien race who has developed a version of advanced warp drive. Or develop their own device to "discover" a dimension who perhaps might have invented such advanced drives and use it to further their own development. Option 3: (Most radical) End their conquests and retreat the Terran Empire to a more manageable, controllable, and sustainable level, with while not peaceful, perhaps a coexistence with their non Terran neighbors. Option 3, while offensive to the Terran Empire (They are conquerors by nature) makes the most sense in the short term as it will give them breathing room, and perhaps allowing subject worlds to have some modicum of freedom like allowing them religion, allowing them to represent their world to the Imperial Senate at least as advisors, and allowing subject races to serve on Imperial Starships. This will help to forestall rebellion among their worlds, allow them a greater pool of scientific talent to perhaps speed up the process of inventing a better warp drive, and finally perhaps allowing some small amount of wealth to be kept in their planetary coffers. And perhaps, the Empire might just realize it has reached as far as it can go, and perhaps take a less militaristic stand on its subject worlds. And with time, perhaps a mutual cooperation can be achieved.
For one, they're far more aggressive about assimilating everything in sight. They've adapted accordingly so they can get their tubules into people as quickly and efficiently as possible.
Seeing Mikey tortured was the highlight of the whole series. Then her death ... not nearly nasty enough. She is the vilest character on television, ever.
Sounds like you don't like her very much. Even the good one in the prime universe? That's amazing how much hatred you have for her. Are you from the mirror universe?? No worries, I won't tell anyone.
@Tejesh Patel I AGREE! Everything went bad for Burnham as soon as she wanted to "fire on the Klingons first". That war should've never happened because in canon it never did. The writers did a lousy job portraying her First officer character traits. Sonequa does have a tendency to over act at times but the character is a good character. This season is by far, Discovery's best.
@Tejesh Patel Exactly! Good actors sometimes underestimate depth and they end up bringing more volume than is appropriate. It's like using a kitchen fire extinguisher on a house fire that's already 50% destroyed. Hence the "Mary Sue" analogy.
Section 31 show will be Michelle yeoh and the guardian of forever doing quantum leap in the star trek universe. I called it before paul guilfoyle turned up as the guardian.
"There are no spoils from peace"
Taxation :"allow me to introduce myself "
LMAO! Facts.
arguably taxation implies that there is not peace unless 100% of those taxed do it voluntarily... facing penalties and fees or being taken off to jail by lethally armed government officials simply for not giving the government money that they say you must simply for existing is not peace.
You're not wrong... lol
The spoils of peace do exist. It is growth of the species that adds to you. New technologies, culture. That is the ultimate spoil of peace. A dead race offers nothing. The same principles applied to the Borg where they do not assimilate whole species even if they can. If they value and see the species as something that can evolve them, they only take what they need. Do you really think they have no power to conquer the while Alpha Quadrant or even the galaxy? They absolutely can but choose not to.
"I will kill all of you" the viciousness of her in that part - color me impressed. And the "Why can't they just believe what I say" - I'm sure every parent has had that 🤣
Michelle Yeoh really does nail the empress thing.
Motherly love - Terran style!
motherly love Terran style aye tortuer kids if they act up way to go lol.
I thought my mom was ruff. I'm glad I'm not terrain.
Asian style xD
"why do they only learn from pain?" part of growing pains I guess.
@@demarcusfaulkner7411 im glad im not the terrain 👌🏿👌🏿
Interesting that the golden mantle around the shoulders of Emperor Georgiou greatly resembles a papal fanon.
Wow these are some good actors specifically the main lead, despite all the hate, I will watch this show, I'm empress by the clips, thanks
This darkly funny. I can see how ruthlessness can be useful in some situations.
The pain agonizer has been perfected over the decades to direct intense severe pain to the parietal lobe of the brain. At a certain level that tolerance is overwhelmed and directed to various stimuli across pain receptors all over the body. The agonizing pain booth can direct intensity towards any area it deems more receptive for maximum effect.
Reminds of a device in Star Wars The Old Republic known as the Tormentor
I think I wouldn't last a minute before peeing
@@ChrisM-qw3vc Hahaha!! That makes two of us man!!
God bless the evolution of special effects did you notice that the emperor had a Tantalus field in her State room on discovery which captain killy was aware of given she was one of her supporters in the empire
@@ChrisM-qw3vc peeing and shitting you would think three months in a agony Booth would be the result of the device on the human subject
The Mirror Universe is messed up. The Terrans are assholes but in DS9 the subjugated are assholes too. (Both groups are entertaining, evil Major Kira, and evil Worf.) There appears to be little difference between the two. Although poor Garak is screwed in both realities.
Would you rather have your species on top and prosperous no matter how the society is or would you like to see the human race beaten down and broken and forced into manual labor not to mention terran empire exists in countless multiverses besides the terran people are what we are without the rules law's and curtain restrictions at are core we can be brutal savage heartless murderous and all that fun stuff that would help us alive I'm surprised you didn't get that it's about who we are as a race and what are true nature is like
@@brianlindee220 the terrans are what we are when we give in to paranoia and fear as opposed to trust and hope
@@3adgamd3r it's what we are in are true nature beneath the surface of are nature as humans beings are species fights over the stupidest thing not to mention if it weren't for the law's of man and those too enforce it we would kill every person that meant us harm or was a threat to one future survival and that of there families
@@3adgamd3r I agree it sadness me that as a species we are not able to unite together if such a thing happens we can accomplish much as humans
I hate to say it since Sonequa is a joy, but Discovery did best when it focused on Georgiou and others. Even mirror Burnham was more compelling.
The one real thing that doomed the Empire to wither and die was not alien armies, it wasn't intergalactic foes or hideous cyborgs. It was one neverending thing. The patient dark of space. The Empire had conquered and either destroyed or subjugated every world within its ability to reach. But warp technology in all realities is a product of cautious and measured improvements. It still took years to reach distant areas of the galaxy. And this was due to the constraints of the ultimate warp factor in Star Trek, and that was at least until the late late 24th Century and early 25th Century. And that was warp 10. And until slipstream and transwarp drive was invented, all known dimensions would be constrained to this limit. So that basically left the Empire with only three options.
Option 1: Send sleeper ships with crews in stasis for decades to reach other quadrants of space and with sufficient resources to establish conquests of their own. (Risky and expensive, as the Empire would only know of their successes or failures after a signal taking years finally reached Terra. And that's assuming anyone even wants to inform the Empire).
Option 2: Survive long enough to either invent transwarp or slipstream drive, steal it from an advanced alien race who has developed a version of advanced warp drive. Or develop their own device to "discover" a dimension who perhaps might have invented such advanced drives and use it to further their own development.
Option 3: (Most radical) End their conquests and retreat the Terran Empire to a more manageable, controllable, and sustainable level, with while not peaceful, perhaps a coexistence with their non Terran neighbors.
Option 3, while offensive to the Terran Empire (They are conquerors by nature) makes the most sense in the short term as it will give them breathing room, and perhaps allowing subject worlds to have some modicum of freedom like allowing them religion, allowing them to represent their world to the Imperial Senate at least as advisors, and allowing subject races to serve on Imperial Starships. This will help to forestall rebellion among their worlds, allow them a greater pool of scientific talent to perhaps speed up the process of inventing a better warp drive, and finally perhaps allowing some small amount of wealth to be kept in their planetary coffers. And perhaps, the Empire might just realize it has reached as far as it can go, and perhaps take a less militaristic stand on its subject worlds. And with time, perhaps a mutual cooperation can be achieved.
"Why don't they learn", because they are people with their own minds, not borg drones!
Man, the borg in this universe must _suck_ .
"Your request for assimilation is denied. Persistence is futile."
Borg are probably the good guys in the mirror universe.
@@DougChatham Just what I'd imagine. "Shall we assimilate the Terrans?"
Borg Queen/CPU - "Hell NAW - avoid them like the space plague".
For one, they're far more aggressive about assimilating everything in sight. They've adapted accordingly so they can get their tubules into people as quickly and efficiently as possible.
@@Silverhawk100 if you know what I mean
Almost like there an evil alternate universe or something ?
Thats precisely what it is.
@@anthonycunningham8116 that was precisely sarcasm
*why can you learn without pain?
It’s why can’t you learn without pain
Seeing Mikey tortured was the highlight of the whole series. Then her death ... not nearly nasty enough. She is the vilest character on television, ever.
Sounds like you don't like her very much. Even the good one in the prime universe? That's amazing how much hatred you have for her. Are you from the mirror universe?? No worries, I won't tell anyone.
@Tejesh Patel I AGREE! Everything went bad for Burnham as soon as she wanted to "fire on the Klingons first". That war should've never happened because in canon it never did. The writers did a lousy job portraying her First officer character traits. Sonequa does have a tendency to over act at times but the character is a good character. This season is by far, Discovery's best.
@Tejesh Patel Exactly! Good actors sometimes underestimate depth and they end up bringing more volume than is appropriate. It's like using a kitchen fire extinguisher on a house fire that's already 50% destroyed. Hence the "Mary Sue" analogy.
Section 31 show will be Michelle yeoh and the guardian of forever doing quantum leap in the star trek universe. I called it before paul guilfoyle turned up as the guardian.
Sounds like you have a rotten heart. I hope you fix it, someday.
Ridiculous