The Taran empire was based largely on the Roman empire. Don't forget no TV no internet This was entertainment back in those days so you had to make it good.
Dictatorships tend to have GREAT graphic design - the Propaganda Ministry finds the best designers, and gives them jobs. They can also produce some pretty good music, for an opposite reason: Instrumental music is, ultimately, abstract. It doesn't "mean" anything. It can tell a story in notes - but WHAT story? If it isn't an opera, no one can really tell. Note that Shostakovich only ran afoul of Stalin after producing an opera: "Lady Macbeth of Mtensk."
yeah, i noticed it too, as if her crown was meant to be placed exactly around the ball of fire with its radiating design. it really compliments each another......i think the film crew must've noticed it too and purposely shot that scene at that particular angle .....it was briliant
@@commenter4898 yes, i believe it is meant to align with her crown. After that, the new mother ship is meant to signify her her place and status in the universe. So in a way, perhaps the crown and balls of fire were intended to be as one
Interestingly, politicians do this intentionally. Just look at how certain photos of Joe Biden are set up to have the presidential seal or some other circular object behind his head, implying divinity.
I thought she was amazing as Captain Georgiou, but the moment she was revealed as the Terran Emperor in DIS Season 1, I fell in love with her more!!! And now she has this shot of an amazing crown with the Charon's core shining behind her. Uggh! She is so extra and I live live live!!!
@@andytay5507 My point is more that we've seen two versions of Mirror Stamets so far, and both have had all of 5 seconds of screentime before being suddenly and brutally killed
Star Wars has Emperor Palpatine ----- Star Trek has The Mother of the Fatherland, Overlord of Vulcan, Dominus of Qo' Nos, Regina Andor, All Hail the Emperor Philippa Georgiou Augustus Iaponius Centarius, Long Live The Empire.
The Cirque Soeil thing is interesting. Guess the producers got the idea from Hamlet. He wrote a play which was performed in front of his uncle to prove to himself that he is the one who killed his father. It was performed exactly how his father described his own murder.
I’ve been critical of STD but they really nailed it with the mirror universe episodes. The mirror universe storyline at the end of season 1 I think really saved that season. This is really enjoyable stuff. The prime character seems so boring after watching them like this.
@@IronSpyder-ky2lkNot sure if I’d prefer that but I would definitely wished there was more of it, a whole lot more! 50/50 would work for me or something along those lines, perhaps 60/40 or at least 70/30 would have already made a huge difference to me.
I smell a new terran expansion for Star Trek Online federation vs terrain empire endgame taking place after Klingon civil war endgame arc hoping each gives players the choice of your destiny leads
About as good as when the TOS era Defiant ended up in the Enterprise era. The Terran empire was on the verge of being defeated by a Vulcan / Andorian / Tellarite alliance before Archer came to the rescue. One thing I quite like, though, is how in the 24th century we see that the Terrans have been overthrown, made into slaves, and for a second time find salvation in the form of a technologically superior prime universe ship named Defiant.
I think the Q or "carl" removed all of that technology only what she saw or remembered is the only thing left for her to give unless she analyze the 32nd century technology thoroughly
Mirror Universe-Tilly was such an amazing change from Prime-Tilly, always wondered if the writers overdid Prime-Tilly's insecurity and meekness early on in the series because they knew the Mirror Universe version was coming, and they wanted the differences to hit even harder.
I love how the more clips I stumble across the less I like the look of this show but then again prefer a film where I can get the story concluded in 1 sitting
Stamet was working in Charon back in Season 1 but now he is trying to kill the emperor…if he succeeded doing so how can still be a scientist on board the Charon? Even the emperor survived Stamet assassination attempt, he would’ve been executed at that time?
When going over her titles it would have been awesome if there was the phrase ," Daughter of Heaven", as a reference to Imperial China, to go with "daughter of Rome".
Mirror universe with Emperor Georgiou are only parts worth watching. Now the reason why she stayed in the prime universe is revealed. The Terran Empire is falling apart, there are very little places left to conquer and the number of rebellions are doubling every year. The federation gave the emperor another perspective of how the Terran Empire can be saved.
When I say this I'm not drawing into question the actor's abilities, but it gave me such a bad vibe to see Stammitz get stabbed here because he seemed like the exact same one from the real world
with those behaviour I can't imagine how terran empire able to survive that long or build a ship like what starfleet has, even if they're comfortable with hostile working environment, killing their superior for the rank or position is a waste of talent.
This is either a simulation or an alternate reality of the mirror reality. It's also possible that he was revived and placed in a coma, by the time Discovery crossed over to the Mirror universe, seeing as how he was the engineer behind the Super-mycelial reactor.
In the original timeline, Lorca's plot was discovered and Burnham ran off when he was found out, so Stamets never tried to assassinate the Emperor and he stayed on the ship. That's why when Burnham returned she was received cordially, because originally no proof of her involvement was known outside. Remember, originally Lorca's disappearance made it impossible for Georgiou to ascertain the extent of the plot. This time she arrived already in full knowledge of how EVERYTHING was going to pan out.
@@Stranglars1 If this is real I think it is her original universe just back in time considering she would need to return to the original universe to survive. She went back in time so presumably can alter events.
It’s worth noting that Spock was half-Terran. Prior to Discovery the mirror universe appeared in TOS, DS9, and ENT; Vulcans served in the Terran Starfleet alongside Andorians, Denobulans, Orions, and Tellarites. Spock was the first officer of the mirror enterprise; in ENT I think there was both an Andorian and Vulcan bridge officer. In canon it isn’t clear what the relationship between say a Vulcan and his or her human subordinate might have been, but it didn’t look positions in starfleet depended entirely on species. It is clear, however, that non-Terrans were just as dedicated to the Empire as their human counterparts.
There are non-canon books which talk about how Vulcans achieved a “first among the aliens” status where an Empress took an andorian consort and found herself saved by a Vulcan who was a former adversary. This would explain why Spock was first officer of the ISS Enterprise, but not why Archer was willing to give that position to T’Pal.
The spore sun thingy on the flagship was already made considering we see it. To be honest we do not know if this is either a illusion or she literally went back in time back into her universe yet.
hi, i'm dude that clicked on this video randomly but i have a question, is their hand gesture suppose to be a "subtle" indication that they're like nazis or is it one of those shows that beat you over the head with it?
I'll say this for the Terrans, they don't lack for showmanship.
And she knows how to deal with rubbish poetry.
@@MrPaulFCockburn who knew those who salute in such a way would regurgitate such degenerate art lmao
The Taran empire was based largely on the Roman empire. Don't forget no TV no internet This was entertainment back in those days so you had to make it good.
Dictatorships tend to have GREAT graphic design - the Propaganda Ministry finds the best designers, and gives them jobs.
They can also produce some pretty good music, for an opposite reason: Instrumental music is, ultimately, abstract. It doesn't "mean" anything. It can tell a story in notes - but WHAT story? If it isn't an opera, no one can really tell. Note that Shostakovich only ran afoul of Stalin after producing an opera: "Lady Macbeth of Mtensk."
@@MrPaulFCockburn That guy's last words were that rubbish poetry.
1:55 I like the way her crown aligns with the Charon ball of fire
yeah, i noticed it too, as if her crown was meant to be placed exactly around the ball of fire with its radiating design. it really compliments each another......i think the film crew must've noticed it too and purposely shot that scene at that particular angle .....it was briliant
@@sonicdarkknight Did they film the fire ball on set? I think it's the other way around. The CGI team put the fire ball there on purpose.
@@commenter4898 yes, i believe it is meant to align with her crown. After that, the new mother ship is meant to signify her her place and status in the universe. So in a way, perhaps the crown and balls of fire were intended to be as one
Interestingly, politicians do this intentionally. Just look at how certain photos of Joe Biden are set up to have the presidential seal or some other circular object behind his head, implying divinity.
This confirms that the Terran Empire was the continuation of the Roman Empire which is fantastic
It is good to finally get some clarity on the matter.
I kind think it a little British Empire too mix in the anicent Rome.
@@sophiawilson8696 They should have British accents I guess?
@@badwolf66 I the system that ran the British Empire
That was the implication.
I thought she was amazing as Captain Georgiou, but the moment she was revealed as the Terran Emperor in DIS Season 1, I fell in love with her more!!! And now she has this shot of an amazing crown with the Charon's core shining behind her. Uggh! She is so extra and I live live live!!!
Right?! she is a QUEEN
YOUR USERNAME!! 😂😂🤣🤣
I swear to god she got all the best lines in season 2
The Terran Empire reminds me of what the Sith Empire was like, without lightsabers and force powers of course.
The power plays too with the Sith Council on Kooriban
reminds me of my xenophobic, militaristic stellaris empire
@@breadbutcooler You mean every human empire in the game!?
And they know how to dress, properly.
Despite all the flaws DISCO have, they do mirror universe episodes so damn good.
Mirror Stamets gets himself killed all the time...Star Trek's Sean Bean
Nah Landry's been killed twice in the Mirror and once in the Prime universe, she wins.
@@roguelead72 Weyoun has been killed eight times, he wins
Man... Mirror Stamets gets done almost as dirty as Weyoun 🤣
he was the dirty one, tryin to sneak on Geirgio.
@@andytay5507 My point is more that we've seen two versions of Mirror Stamets so far, and both have had all of 5 seconds of screentime before being suddenly and brutally killed
up to "Stamets 3" now?
Hmm, makes you wonder if there are Stammets triplets, quads, quints, etc., doesn't it?
That's a woman who can multitask.
LOL!
things are getting very Warhammer 40k up in the trek verse!
Love it when Star Trek incorporates classical arts.
Star Wars has Emperor Palpatine ----- Star Trek has The Mother of the Fatherland, Overlord of Vulcan, Dominus of Qo' Nos, Regina Andor, All Hail the Emperor Philippa Georgiou Augustus Iaponius Centarius, Long Live The Empire.
Just watched this scene 10 more times!!! Just awesome. You could see how Burnham could just taste it and then its taken away!
Love the uniforms, and the eyeliner. Give us more Terran episodes!!
I would love a span off with the Terran Emperor . it would be a great show, with all the back backstabbing.
Star Trek: Terra basically Game of Thrones in Space but everyone is Littlefinger
The Cirque Soeil thing is interesting. Guess the producers got the idea from Hamlet. He wrote a play which was performed in front of his uncle to prove to himself that he is the one who killed his father. It was performed exactly how his father described his own murder.
That halo was taken from Warhammer 40K. It looks great.
She just doesn’t have the glow of the God Emperor, or the gravitas of Sanguinias (not to mention the wings)
Maybe one of the writers is a fan?
And the halo from 40k was taken from Christianity. Because 40k is Catholicism In Spaaaaaaace
The Empress used "throat stab!" Its very effective!
The ISS Charon was a monolith. Holy shit.
I’ve been critical of STD but they really nailed it with the mirror universe episodes. The mirror universe storyline at the end of season 1 I think really saved that season. This is really enjoyable stuff. The prime character seems so boring after watching them like this.
Ikr! They should have set this show purely in the mirror universe
I totally agree. What’s funny, I was never the biggest mirror universe fan before but I love how discovery handles the storyline!
Mirror Universe is AWESOME! I also liked the time loop thing.
@@cyniam8231Totally agree, the MU rocks!
@@IronSpyder-ky2lkNot sure if I’d prefer that but I would definitely wished there was more of it, a whole lot more! 50/50 would work for me or something along those lines, perhaps 60/40 or at least 70/30 would have already made a huge difference to me.
I kind of want to see a Mirror Universe show now.
Same here. All the plotting, intrigue, and back-stabbing - hell yes.
Not a show but there was supposed to be a comic series coming out followong the mirror TNG crew with Mirror Picard trying to rebuild the empire
I smell a new terran expansion for Star Trek Online federation vs terrain empire endgame taking place after Klingon civil war endgame arc hoping each gives players the choice of your destiny leads
Guess you’re getting your wish.
Wish granted
1:55 The glory and power of Emperor Georgiou!
Such a great scene. Georgiou is a Queen.
Perfect fit to her sun shaped crown
Now i really want a Warhammer 40k Live Action show...
Long live the terran empire!
Terra firma!
Terra eterna!
Terra Firma!
Long live the Empire!
Terra eterna!
Long Lived The Emperor. Terra Firma!!!
evil stammets the daniel jackson of the startrek universe
The World’s Expert at Getting Killed.
And the Sean Bean of Star Trek.
@@TerenceLight Landry's got him beat though.
Long live the Terran Empire!!
Terra Firma!
Terra Eterna!
TERRA FIRMA, TERRA ETERNA!!!
I wish they would do a Star Trek show about the Terran empire
Is it good to send Georgiou back in time with technology from the future?
The same can be asked about the guardian of forever.
she is not really back in time , it clearly a test or something ,,
About as good as when the TOS era Defiant ended up in the Enterprise era. The Terran empire was on the verge of being defeated by a Vulcan / Andorian / Tellarite alliance before Archer came to the rescue.
One thing I quite like, though, is how in the 24th century we see that the Terrans have been overthrown, made into slaves, and for a second time find salvation in the form of a technologically superior prime universe ship named Defiant.
I think the Q or "carl" removed all of that technology only what she saw or remembered is the only thing left for her to give unless she analyze the 32nd century technology thoroughly
Aww does this mean there is no stametz in the terran empire. Why not! Liked him having around in discovery. An occasional gay kiss😊
Terrans are pansexual in general so you don't have to worry about that.
Dang, Circue du Soleil even has a venue in the Terran Empire? Wow!
2:27 HOORAY!!! 🤣🤣🤣
I think Georgeo went back in time and change the timeline, which is why you don’t hear about the terran empire in the future
Mirror universe
You didn’t watch DS9 did ya?
LONG LIVE GEORGIOU, LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE
TERRA FIRMA
Mirror Universe is a timeline where Roman Empire did not fall.
“One disloyal individual can destroy everything we’ve built.”
Well, in every revolution, there *is* one man with a vision 🖖
Mirror Universe-Tilly was such an amazing change from Prime-Tilly, always wondered if the writers overdid Prime-Tilly's insecurity and meekness early on in the series because they knew the Mirror Universe version was coming, and they wanted the differences to hit even harder.
Carl is a temporal Agent.....Agent Daniel's did things like this with Captain Archer...many times.
Do you have a personal goal to post these same words in comments of any Discovery video you can find or something?
I love how the more clips I stumble across the less I like the look of this show but then again prefer a film where I can get the story concluded in 1 sitting
私は熱心なスタートレック・ディスカバリーの視障者では全く無いのですが。
この展開は面白そうですね！
俳優たちも皆「嬉々」として演じていた事が判ります。
俳優たちが嬉々として演じているのは、とても視聴者にとって大切･重要な事です。
結果、「面白い作品」に成るのですから！
Burnham looks hot in the black lipstick, she should have worn that more often.
They attack from without, they attack from within!
It would be so cool if they brought back all the actors and did a series about the mirror universe.
Michelle Yeoh OWNED the role of Emperor Philippa Georgiou. Discovery had my favorite take on the mirror universe.
You have to admit. For an evil scientist, Mirror Stamets is a really good poet.
Everything about this scene is perfect except for the awful middle school poetry Stamets is reciting 🤣
MMMMM Captain Killy!❤
Et tu Stamets?
I love the mirror episodes :)
I always thought the emperor should have been gene roddenberry
His son "Rod" Jr. still can be.
is the music playing through georgiou's speech on the soundtrack?
Stamet was working in Charon back in Season 1 but now he is trying to kill the emperor…if he succeeded doing so how can still be a scientist on board the Charon? Even the emperor survived Stamet assassination attempt, he would’ve been executed at that time?
Glory to the Terran Empire, may Emporer Georgiou rule forever!
terra firma
When going over her titles it would have been awesome if there was the phrase ," Daughter of Heaven", as a reference to Imperial China, to go with "daughter of Rome".
with that crown she looks like the emperor of mankind from 40K
Long reign her imperial majesty emperor Phillipa Georgiou Augustus Iaponius Centarius!
Seeing Mechelle Yeoh as the 40K-ish god emperor of humanity is pretty much the only fun thing about this series.
Game of Star Thrones?
Smart watching the audience for dissidents as she kills their assassin.
Did she just pull a Teddy Roosevelt?
Except, I believe the story goes that TR was shot before his campaign speech and then delivered the speech with the bullet still in his body.
She do badass I can't take it
Mirror universe with Emperor Georgiou are only parts worth watching. Now the reason why she stayed in the prime universe is revealed. The Terran Empire is falling apart, there are very little places left to conquer and the number of rebellions are doubling every year. The federation gave the emperor another perspective of how the Terran Empire can be saved.
1:15 Sieht aus wie der Gott-Imperator aus Warhammer 40k.
Can we please have a Terran series? Either the founding of the Terran empire through Rome or follow THE empress as she goes on her journey
I want this soundtrack!
Oscar winning Emperor
Awe! I liked Stamet!
LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!!!
Why does she looks like the god emperor of mankind in 40k?
When I say this I'm not drawing into question the actor's abilities, but it gave me such a bad vibe to see Stammitz get stabbed here because he seemed like the exact same one from the real world
with those behaviour I can't imagine how terran empire able to survive that long or build a ship like what starfleet has, even if they're comfortable with hostile working environment, killing their superior for the rank or position is a waste of talent.
Pretty sure they only killed their superior if they were doing a shit job in general
It's guts were showing no wonder discovery took it out
I hated the Stamets character. It's a shame that Discovery went off the deep end. The show had such potential.
Long live Georgiou! Long live the Empire!!! Terra Firma! Terra Eterna!
Badass Michelle Yeoh led the show
know what? actors and actress are border line insane, they have to be
Fu-ing finally.
But isn’t he alive later in the original arc? Otherwise I love this!
So was Landry.
This is when the emperor gets 'weighed' for time travel.
the mirror verse is the only thing i like about star trek crying discovery
i've always like the mirror universe simply because its the star trek version of the imperium of man, but i can agree with your comment
I think Discovery has been pretty good S2 onward, but I'd love to see a mirror series.
Same here
I fine star trek discovery was good from day one maybe it's because I am of the younger generation.
Putting Anthony Rapp's Broadway acting to good use I see
Time Index: 2:25
Is Stamets the only Mirror Universe character to die twice?
She would have made Machiavelli proud.
3:22
The Mirror Universe.
what a bad ass stab
Stamnents must have been forgiven because that is not how he dies
Lorca killed him so in the real timeline he sold him to the empress to get a chair in the charon.
This is either a simulation or an alternate reality of the mirror reality. It's also possible that he was revived and placed in a coma, by the time Discovery crossed over to the Mirror universe, seeing as how he was the engineer behind the Super-mycelial reactor.
She's changing the timeline, either in her head or in reality.
In the original timeline, Lorca's plot was discovered and Burnham ran off when he was found out, so Stamets never tried to assassinate the Emperor and he stayed on the ship. That's why when Burnham returned she was received cordially, because originally no proof of her involvement was known outside. Remember, originally Lorca's disappearance made it impossible for Georgiou to ascertain the extent of the plot. This time she arrived already in full knowledge of how EVERYTHING was going to pan out.
@@Stranglars1 If this is real I think it is her original universe just back in time considering she would need to return to the original universe to survive. She went back in time so presumably can alter events.
In the TOS Spock in the mirror universe seem to have status on the mirror enterprise, but he was wasn’t Terran. This ever been explained?
It’s worth noting that Spock was half-Terran. Prior to Discovery the mirror universe appeared in TOS, DS9, and ENT; Vulcans served in the Terran Starfleet alongside Andorians, Denobulans, Orions, and Tellarites. Spock was the first officer of the mirror enterprise; in ENT I think there was both an Andorian and Vulcan bridge officer. In canon it isn’t clear what the relationship between say a Vulcan and his or her human subordinate might have been, but it didn’t look positions in starfleet depended entirely on species. It is clear, however, that non-Terrans were just as dedicated to the Empire as their human counterparts.
@@briangronberg6507 I always forget that. Thanks
There are non-canon books which talk about how Vulcans achieved a “first among the aliens” status where an Empress took an andorian consort and found herself saved by a Vulcan who was a former adversary. This would explain why Spock was first officer of the ISS Enterprise, but not why Archer was willing to give that position to T’Pal.
They talk a little bit about it in STE /watch?v=CEJMY5gN16M&ab_channel=SciFiSource
About dam time they got that dude out of the way I want this show to keep going to hell with the original Discovery
Mirror universes / time travel - for when you run out of good writers .....
...and that's for Kevin Spacey!
I think she killed him for the terrible poetry even more than for his act of treason.
Vogon poetry is worse ;)
Long Live the Empire
With Mirror Stanis dead the Mirror Spore drive is never created?
Who knows we don’t know if this is and illusion or if he made it during the constriction of the ship but any way its till a change
The spore sun thingy on the flagship was already made considering we see it. To be honest we do not know if this is either a illusion or she literally went back in time back into her universe yet.
I would like to see a full season of star trek terrain empire because the episodes with the terrain empire are my favourite
hi, i'm dude that clicked on this video randomly but i have a question, is their hand gesture suppose to be a "subtle" indication that they're like nazis or is it one of those shows that beat you over the head with it?
Roman empire, which is where the Nazis got it from. Fun fact, it was also how Americans saluted the flag until 1942.
@@hermeticallysealed1 oh word? that's cool, thanks for that
Michelle Yeoh…I was in love in her since the Heroic Trio. She is the hottest Emperor