Star Trek Discovery | Burnham And Philippa vs Lorca Final Fight | Captain Gabriel Lorca Death Scene
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Loved Jason Issacs as Lorca, the antagonists in this series were just brilliant.
3:39 his death sounds like a TIE Fighter :))))))
lmao, it literally sounds like they just dropped in a TIE sound effect
what is an imperial ship without a Tie figher?
DarkusMaster I was thinking the same thing lmao!
Vader: What??
Blow that piece of junk out of the sky!
Apparently all throughout filming this scene, Jason Isaacs kept begging Yeoh to slow down because he couldn't keep up with her and he felt like a "drunken hippo". XD
I’d think the hardest part of filming this fight was making it look like Jason Isaacs could take on Michelle Yeoh 💜
Michelle Yeoh has literal *DECADES* of Martial Arts action experience, and doing her own stunts, under her belt. Even in year 2020 at age 58, Yeoh is *NOT* someone you want to fight. *;)*
"Hippo Poop-Spray Style!"
@@pendrake40 She's 58? She looks like she's about a decade younger!
@@walterdayrit675 ~ (Taken from Wikipedia) Michelle Yeoh was born August 06, 1962 in Ipoh, Malaysia.
Thus, Yeoh is age 58 in year 2020. *:)*
Now watching season 3, I've realized one thing, Georgiou always saves everyone... literally all the fight scenes she's in, she kicks ass of her opponents then rushes on to kick the ass of the other peoples opponents... if it weren't for her, Lorca would have gone with them to the future. She kicked his ass TWICE...
"FIRE!!" You gotta admit it folks, Saru is pretty badass in this sequence!
My biggest problem with the end of Season 1 and most of Season 2 was that he wasn't Captain of Discovery, only an Acting Captain. This entire Mirror Universe arc he stepped up and proved he deserved that center seat.
@@danielhaire6677 Well there is a good chance that he will be captain in season 3 given Discovery's circumstances
You are easily impressed
@@Mathieu_Matheow_Benoit fuck off troll.
And so, Lorca became a TIE fighter.
Yes, yes! He did X'D
RIP Captain Lorca. Lived by backstabbing, and died the same way.
Call it poetic by Terran standards
I'll be so happy when Burnham dies, that will be the day I celebrate.
I'll also be throwing a party when this show finally stops getting funding ;) CBS can pull the plug anyday now!
@@the1tigglet She will never be killed off. Because, female.
*Died as he lived.*
Captain Lorca died the way Lucius Malfoy should have . Since Jason played both, I always referred to him as Captain Malfoy....before the plot twist.
Man, Saru was so good in this episode. I love how he yells fire. No threat ganglia present
A pity at that point he didn't know in the Mirror Universe his race serves as a 23th Century counterpart of sushi, that would add more depth to his shout.
Doug Jones is one damn good actor.
Yea i wished he became the official new Captain of the Discovery when the season ended. Would have been well deserved. Oh well. The writers properly had a good reason i suppose..
That guy really grew on me, becomes a bit of a badass as he went along.
Anthony D that’s because he IS the threat!
I do like that Discovery has a decidedly more cinematic feel than its predecessors. And the action scenes are much better choreographed.
Whatever else one says about her, positive or negative, Michael is the first Prime Universe Starfleet officer who actually knows how to FIGHT!!
Mary Sue’s are generally very good at fighting.
worf: am i a joke to you, petaQ?
Bro I watched all of Picard in the last month or two and I don't think I saw even a single two-handed punch... What happened? That was like the TNG fight scene signature move
The way michelle kicked that blade which lorca threw at her badass 👌👌
Wow, all those times Lorca favoured Burnham's safety makes sense now.
This is an uncharacteristically badass fight scene for the Star Trek franchise.
DAY-U-U-U-M!!! Badass just badass!!! Finally get to see some of what Yeoh was hired for; I was stunned when they originally killed her off this is a fantastic twist of fate in the plot line the later surprise(s) even better.
yes more girl bosses hooray
I love those Yeoh kicks. So badass.
Finally, this show uses Michelle Yeoh's badass talents properly.
I know right?! Go Michelle Yeoh!
yes!!!
Yeoh, baby!!!!!! Michelle at her FINEST!!!!! super speed!
Michelle Yeoh is the best!!!
Hard to believe she's in her mid 50s. Those kicks, man...unbelievable.
1:21 That Trinity kick though :D
in a mirror darkly another dimension, best episodes of star trek franchise ever!
3:30 ... Death by Tie Fighter
1:27 Even if the fight wasn't the best, this shot of Emperor Georgiou dodging a phaser bolt is great.
ikr
Saru's "FIRE" is just top-notch.
Yes. Quite iconic especially when he says WARP SPEED NOW. Gives me goosebumps.
Jason Isaacs said that Michelle was so fast he couldn't keep up. she had to slow much down so he could keep the choreography going smoothly. he said her kicks were incredible and that she was brilliant!!!
It's obvious that her kicks was much slower than in the Chinese movies.
@@cyber1991 gotta make it easier for American audiences to see it, them not being used to it and all! XD
@@ZannaZatanna1 Well some of us are used to the speed. That is those of us raised on Lee, Li, Yeoh, Yen, Sammo, and Jackie!!
Michelle knows karate I think
I always though Lorca should have stayed and been a long term captain of discovery. He was a complex character but I always felt he was doing things for the greater good but just had to get a little dirtier each time. The show should have played off that and be initially about Micheál learning how to be a good starfleet officer and then the crew keeping the captain focused and on track during the difficult war.
Greater good or not, he should have stayed because he was the most interesting character on the show.
I just began watching Discovery, finally, after being too hooked on SNW (I admit, I listened too much to the bad opinions of the show). I love it and since I came in knowing a lot of spoilers, I just so wish Lorca wasn't so preoccupied with his returning to his own universe. He would have made such a fine Starfleet Captain long-term. I'm totally obsessed with his leadership style and everything, and that's coming from me who is also totally obsessed with boy scout Pike.
1:46 Burnham's fake punch 😂
02:39 For a split second after picking up the phaser you can see she´s holding it the wrong way, having the shooty bit aimed at herself ^^
There was so much potential wasted with Lorca. They just turned him into a regular bad buy and killed him in the same episode. He could have been a rebel who wanted to end the empire to liberate the aliens. This would leave Discovery with a moral dilemma to who they should support.
FireOccator he might not be dead
thats actually pretty darn good! i like it!! :) if only though if only
What happened to the Lorca from our Universe?
Turning him into a generic Jillian just because he was Terran was a huge mistake. They could have had him be like you said a rebel sympathiser. Rather than have him die trying to kill Burnham, he could have gave his life turning off the flagships shields so that Discovery could destroy it and escape home. He'd give his life for the Federation.
The crew could have then kept his true identity a secret and informed Cornwell that he gave his life for his crew.
@@TheNoiseySpectator he's *supposed* to be dead, but it's not really known.
Watching them team up is so satisfying to watch
It really was, but I'm a huge Michelle Yeoh fan.
This is a real kick ass scene. Loved seeing Michelle Yeoh in action. And relieved to see Burnham get a degree of redemption saving Georgiou this time.
I have watched all 13 episodes this week. I loved them all. good show.
Lorca wasn't deserve that end. I feel the same about the end that writers gave to Gul Dukat in DS9.
I think on of the books says that Non Mirror (I hesitate to say Prime) Lorca is still alive. Hopefully this means he could return to the show in the future. It’d be interesting to see how different or similar Lorca is to his Mirror counterpart.
0:58 The Mirror Universe way of saying "you are in my way" to allies.
A luck they never figured out that you can have a energy pulse over-penetrate, rather then vaprozie the first target!
I guess they had to choose between "torture" and "penetrating pulse" settings, and choose the former.
By far one of the best fight scenes produced
This show is so good. Nothing like what I was expecting. Which I like.
I just finished rewatching this episode and have come to the following conclusion:
Starfleet needs its head examined for not making Saru's Captaincy permanent. I know that his people got the reputation for cowardice from their evolution from a prey species. However, I didn't see a coward here. I saw a Starship Captain getting the job done.
I have my criticisms of Discovery, but you can't deny the fight scenes are infinitely better than any other Star Trek series.
No argument there. I'm still... debating how I really feel, but these fight scenes have come a long way since the infamous Gorn incident.
Captain Picard: Best at Talking
Captain Janeway: Best at fighting Borg
Captain Archer: Best at getting beat up
LocksAndChains Oh god, I know it was the 60's, but goddamn how could they not realise how bad that shit looked hahaha.
I suppose all of you have forgotten Worf.
Yep and Sisko kicking Jem' Hadar asses. DS9 is still way better than this in every conceivable way, especially storyline, character development, ship and costume design.
1:35 - The moment Lorca lost the fight. Had he not done that, he'd be Emperor and both Burnham and Space Hitler would be dead.
Yeah. He saved Michael from Landry.
I can't help but think the producers took Michelle aside and quietly whispered "Go easy on him, please..." He's _so_ following her lead here. It even shows in the rehearsal footage. She rocks.
3:42 Lorca has dissolved into the mycelial spores; he might---might---come back somehow.
Nope, he became a TIE fighter. He's totally dead.
Mirror Lorca? Maybe? Prime Lorca most definitely
i agree. It doesn't look like he is dying or experiencing pain (except for the would-be fatal stab wound) and his scream seams to echo off into the distance rather than ending. This is what sounds like a tie fighter.
The last words of burnham to him need to be resolved. His character can still be redeemed.
Jason Isaacs has said he'd be interested in returning as Prime Lorca
Well the Q can always bring someone back if they want to.
I hope the real Lorca shows up again
Michelle Yeoh in this fight scene is remarkable! That kick to the face is awesome!
Don’t mess with Michelle Yeoh!
Am I the only one that noticed that Michael faced the phaser pistol she grabbed at 2:40 in the wrong direction? You can only see that for a few frames.
Holy shit. Well spotted!
nice one XD
Lmao, Star Trek Discovery pulled an ME: Andromeda on us for a few seconds...
It does actually show her flipping it around though.
BUT WE ALL LOVE LORCA! BRING HIM BACK!
Alex García Moreno Remember he was the mirror Lorca I'm sure he was reprise his role as the prime universe version of himself
I didn't like Lorca. This was awesome. I love this show.
@Timothy Burning that was my understanding. Prime Lorca died with his ship and crew. Mirror Lorca used that to impersonate him.
Alex García Moreno I bet in the real universe he is still alive and comes on board as captain after they fix the timeline or after they reconnect with the Federation
I don't think Lorca is gone for good. The manner of his death... the core of pure mycelium energy. I think he's somewhere out there in the mycelium network. Maybe even with his sword wound healed.
you know, I always did enjoy the ground battle scenes in this show
I was still rooting for Lorca. He carried the show for me
I wonder if in the mirror universe, Lorca is supposed to be Emperor Archer's bastard descendant and the entire lineage of Emperors are decended from Empress Hoshi
The part about Empress Hoshi Sato I'll agree with, but the rest? >waggles hand in an "Iffy" motion
Star Trek Discovery is a holodeck program located on the Enterprise E.
It was written by Lt. Barclay from his imagination.
asphaman Hopefully he will shut it down soon!!!
So they’re pulling an enterprise season finale?
god that would be hilarious
That's a shitty old trek plot. None of that crap in discovery
Please please let that be it so he can end program forever
this was a fun fight sequence and to keep with the pace of the show I'm pretty sure Michelle Yeoh, had to hold back on her real skill and incredible talent
because in real life that fight would have been over in about two or three moves, but a fun sequence and well done by all the actors
Aa a trekkie for 45 years, I like Discovery. And this episode had the best moments in the series so far. It is said season two plots will be more like traditional Trek. I can't wait!
About dam time someone posted this :)
Lorca will return. He became part of the spores as he died. Mark my words.
oh jeeze just thanks man now you ruined all the fun i was about to start watching this from episode 1. You went out and destroyed my only thing i was going to look forward to doing today thanks man!
3:34
"Madame Emperor, I don't feel so good... "
When Lorca was falling into the mushroom sun I was like “HOW MUCH YOUR EYES HURT NOW?!”
I'm kind of hoping Discovery beamed him back on board. I know its unlikely but, he's pretty well the best Character on the show. Now we just have Mikey Spock and The Shroom Head and Saru.
He could still be alive in the spore network
Chewy, here's to hope.
Ironically, I also Think he'd make a better Emperor that Girogo. He may be harsh and manipulative, but he does see the big picture and does have the capacity to actually care about those under him. He even inspired Loyalty in his Crew in the Mirror Universe without just relying on Brute Force.
For the culture he's from, he's actually quiet a good man.
+SK Wills Yeah. After watching promo for episode 13 I thought he'll become an emperor. Even if he's not back on Discovery at least he'll get what he wants. But making the guy who was one of two main characters on the show, a character who lots of people liked much more than Michael an ordinary villain and killing him as an ordinary villain was a bad move.
I suspect its because of the same writers flaw as The Last Jedi. They have embraced Feminist Ideology and assume the Audience has, too. Lorca was a White Man. The only thing better would be if he were Christian, but they nixed tat idea.
The women of the show have to come out on top, and we are supposed to root for them and Think they are better simply based n them being Women. From VIce Admiral Holdo not telling Poe her plan, to Emperor Giorgiou being a cruel Dictator, to Michael Burnham being an insufferably arrogant and self righteous jerk, we're stuck with horrible Characters whose primary reason for existing is to one up the men.
Voyager had pretty horrible writing. However, Janeway and Torres were at least presented as people, had flaws that were admitted to be flaws, weren't always right, didn't one up the men just because they were women, and were overall likable in general.
But Empress Notasurprise is just a cruel and merciless Dictator, and Michael Burnham is just so full of herself its not worth caring about her career arch.
All we need to cap this off is for Sarek to admit to Michael that he always loved her move than SPock.
SK Wills awwwww triggered much?
Based on this, I'm going to say that Lorca is _not_ dead. He was absorbed into the mycellium network, and once he pulls himself together he will be back.
damn. going to miss him, he was interesting
I'm not going to miss him. I kind of hope Seru takes over as acting captain. If only because we'd get an alien commanding a star fleet ship.
+Anthony Dukes Hopefully we will meet the Prime Lorca in future episodes.
Bring back Lorca!
I feel that once again Burnham shows she's not federation material by choosing the side with the EMPEROR OF THE TERRAN EMPIRE. Yes Lorca was manipulating events to return to the mirror universe but there where plenty of times where he was not a bad guy. He chose to try and save Federation ships when possible, same with federation colonies. He showed considerable restraint while members of the discovery were aboard the klingon flagship. Yes Burnham was one of those aboard but it's still more restraint and compassion for the well being of others than most members of the Terran Empire are known for. Even when he's revealed, he tried hard not to let Burnham or Discovery come to harm during the coup. In the end I find it sad that his story had to end this way.
Except Lorca's speech wasn't exactly making him come off as better what with it basically being him saying the Empire wasn't racist and brutal enough.
I agree with you up to a point. He was absolutely willing to destroy Discovery once its usefulness subsided. He made that clear in the transmission to Saru. He would have destroyed Discovery had Burnham not stayed behind.
That, I feel, is because the writers botched up an opportunity for a serious character development arc for one of the few characters in this show that had potential, in favor of a 'villain of the week'. But that's my opinion of the matter. There is of course the possibility that he's not dead since his 'disintegration could have easily been his being absorbed into the Terran's version of the spore network. If the writers have any imagination at all, we may see Lorca again. I just feel he has so much potential for growth as a character to be more than he is. Unlike Burnham who betrayed her captain and then sided with the 'Space Nazi' version of that same captain.
it is simple really Burham chose the "lesser of the two evils" and the lesser of the two evils is the Empress and she chose to help the empress. Lorca made it quite clear that the Discovery was no longer useful and he was going to destroy it and everyone on it. Lorca also made a speech on what he was going to do when the empress did neither.
Nah, none of all that matter. The writer wanted a twist and turned him into a straight up bad guy. One that literally paraphrases Trump: "We will make our Empire glorious again!". And of course our main character sides with a genocidal tyrant who in an episode prior killed the MU version of her surrogate father Sarek. Because... oh well.
Damn it, i didnt know legs could move like that, seems that what you get when youre a hong kong movie star.
I do love the music in this scene.
I know people will probably come for me for saying this but... this is probably one of the best hand to hand...ish fight scenes in all of Star Trek. Emperor Georgiou 2024
It's not star trek, sorry to burst your bubble there.
God I love Suru's "Fire!"
but I love captain Lorca..... best character on the show
We probably have not seen the last of Lorca (the good, or the bad version)
But now we have a new Captain Georgiou that will be amazing
Telmo Amaro never understood that to maintain a dictator who go against everything that the federation go, Lorca never discriminated against his alien staff, eated aliens or even made anything against his subordinates, I'm really impressed about how many joined his rebellion.
LORCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
Pressing "F" to pay my respect.
Discovery should have been set entirely within the mirror universe. Michelle was brilliant as the emporer.
is it bad that i actually liked him as a captain?
Just watch star trek Discovery and seeing lorca character just being killed away just like that just break my heart. Daymm
This episode almost made up for the last 12, it was excellent. The space battles on this show suck, but the fight sequences and choreographed combat are the most amazing I have seen in Star Trek and are up there with a feature film.
I have to agree. I love Discovery, but the space battle VFX are just...wrong? jarring? badly formatted? I dunno, I mean I like them better than NO space battles, but I honestly think they need to fire their VFX company and go with another one that has better composition and is able to milk each shot for all it's worth.
Physical combat though is great!
When I think of star trek the first thing that comes to mind is hand to hand combat....
Yeah, Star Trek is Star Wars now, and Star Wars is Harry Potter now. It sucks.
Fauxbro1983, did Kirk sit down for tea with the Gorn? Friendly chats with Klingons? Tender, civil exchanges with mirror universe selves? Trek has always had fistacuffs, along with healthy doses of higher morality and civilized behavior.
@ASMR Muzz The ships look like game mods. They are well textured but look angular and unfinished, also their hulls have an unaesthetic pewter sheen and not trek's aztec patters with subtle shimmers. The result is irridescent-looking ships that film oddly and streak across the screen without being all that clearly visible.
I never noticed when I watched this the first time that when Discovery fires its phaser you see the resultant impact on the interior of the ship.
They sure did spend a hell of a lot of money on the first season lol!
2:21 when he’s fighting and he said stop when I said it to my uncle and he said “yea” he keeps playing around 😂
OMG The battle music is great. Klingon-Terran twist.
Lol, at 2:40 for a split second she’s holding the phaser backwards.
Like the way he said "fire!" at 0.07
Would love to somehow see Ming-Na Wen vs Michelle Yeoh.
Either against each other or, teamed up.
Would be unstoppable.
This man spent a full season trying to get back just to be OVERKILLED!!!
Lorca needs to come back
4 potential ways of Lorca coming back...
1) Mirror Lorca didn't die but rather entered the mycelial network and is somehow healed by its mushroomness
2) Prime Lorca didn't die (we've had no on screen confirmation either way)
3) They go back in time and prevent the war from happening and so Prime Lorca is kicking about
4) They go back in time and mirror Lorca transfers across as before but into a totally new situation
All four of these can occur simultaneously. Please for the love of fuck bring him back somehow!
+ennan hamill very unlikely, not impossible as he was only signed up for 1 season but noone knows what the future beholds :D
I know... but at least there are some viable avenues for to come back even for one or two episodes. I really hope he does as he was by far my favourite character on the show.
I know... but at least there are some viable avenues for to come back even for one or two episodes. I really hope he does as he was by far my favourite character on the show.
ennan hamill this what i think would be a good idea: when the discovery meets with the enterprise. The real Lorca is on the enterprise with captain pike
This show looks good man, i just wish it wasn't a prequel, let's go forward
Say what you want about this show but they do pretty awesome fight scenes.
Burnham was truly badass in that episode
Funny how the Mirror Yeoh can bust out more moves than the original Yeoh. back in ep1 I thought, why hire Michelle if your going to throttle down her fight scenes? It's just a shame the fighting ability isn't consistent between the two of them.
because mirror yeoh is a paranoid emperor skilled in hand to hand combat needed to fend off any wouldbe pretender to her throne
Whereas the prime universe Yeoh was the typical Starfleet Captain who while trained in combat was more of an explorer than a warrior. But even with the extreme differences, you could see the similarities.
FYI, the Tie-Fighter sound is actually a scream from an animal and has been used in many science fiction films like 'The Phantom Planet' from 1961.
I don't know why it's used here since Lorca's brief scream is fine enough, but it's still technically a scream.
Even though there's something a little... Odd. About Discovery, i really like it.
Wish we could have had more Lorca but Philippa is a great exchange.
Leland was great, Control was great, the burn was good but the emerald chain was a bit meh and I've still not got round to catching up with season 4.
I love the whole "dude where's my federation?" of season 3.
Philippa ending the war and going section 31 was cool, hope to see her back for that show/movie
Okay, Discovery has a lot of flaws... but this is the best melee fight scene Star Trek has ever had. No more impractical slow motion, two-fisted fights.
Stromjir not too much flaws though, it doesn’t break canon if you truly think about it, and if you truly give it a chance
You're stupid.
one thing about they fight better on discovery than the other series of star trek.
I'm starting to think that this isn't the only time we hear tie fighter sounds in Star Trek Discovery.
Every sound of engine acceleration, or hull strain may actually be modified from the sound of a Star Wars Tie Fighter.
I just noticed that everyone but Burnham is using lethal weapons. She is non lethal weapons, even though she could (and probably should) go full throttle.
love the kelpien captain
Best star trek fight scene ever
Imagine a projectile so slow you can get out if it’s way…..
Can u post the scene when Michael Save Philippa?
Tavington.
Damn him, damn that man!
Now that’s my Captain👍🏿
They kept the fight scenes from TOS definitely. Except, they are fighting lizards in rubber suits.
I LOVE LORCA
why dose he sound like a tie fighter when he falls into the core?
With so many CGI effects, stunt-doubles face replacements, it would be cool to show the actress's face on the fight scene.
As Terran Empress, Michelle Yeoh shows us all how it's done.
Long live the Terran Empire!!