The Man-Machine: How to Play (Drums) Like Philip Selway

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 94

  • @Kitchyyy
    @Kitchyyy Рік тому +24

    times
    3:18 decks dark/bodysnatchers
    4:57 twisted words
    5:45 where i end and you begin
    6:33 weird fishes
    7:38 reckonaa (ba ba ba)/in limbo
    9:38 myxomatosis
    10:37 nice dream

  • @awabqureshi814
    @awabqureshi814 2 роки тому +97

    The drums in Arpeggi actually sound like a drum machine even in the basement version, it is wild

    • @michaelpurdieabbott7743
      @michaelpurdieabbott7743 2 роки тому +20

      Also I think most other drummers would have put tons of unnecessary fills in that song but Phil plays exactly what is required. Never tries to dominate the song and always supports the track perfectly

    • @jamesleodelacruz
      @jamesleodelacruz 2 роки тому +5

      Even tho it’s a rather fast beat you start to get lost in the song making the beat sound smooth and hypnotic

    • @Aperez06.
      @Aperez06. Рік тому +3

      @@michaelpurdieabbott7743 another drummer that never really uses fills is john stainer of battles, incredibly tight drummer as well

  • @booled1
    @booled1 2 місяці тому +4

    The drums on TAMTW have always been one my favourites.

  • @rickadrian2675
    @rickadrian2675 4 місяці тому +4

    Great analysis. Have been a big fan of Radiohead since last millennium and can recommend watching their live shows released during COVID. Seeing Colin & Phil pretty much setting the tone together at the back of the stage while Thom, Jonny & Ed play some icing on top up front just shows that they know their roles in making complicated music sound effortless.

  • @cornflakesyuh3235
    @cornflakesyuh3235 2 роки тому +23

    “Separator” off The King of Limbs has to be one of my favorites for sure

    • @JoeEdelmann3
      @JoeEdelmann3  2 роки тому +5

      Love love that one!

    • @GreenToast01
      @GreenToast01 2 роки тому +7

      I use that when warming up lol. Its so fun

    • @squanchysquanch1840
      @squanchysquanch1840 Рік тому +4

      I use separator to practice my double kicks lol. Usually at 75% playback speed, working my way up to 100%

  • @drstrangelove4925
    @drstrangelove4925 2 роки тому +16

    Reminds me of a comment that says “Phil looks like he’s drumming to save the world” when playing jigsaw falling into place (scotch mist sessions)

    • @JoeEdelmann3
      @JoeEdelmann3  2 роки тому +3

      Haha he does have a great focus face on the faster songs!

  • @gabrielsirkis704
    @gabrielsirkis704 8 місяців тому +5

    The Radiohead rythm section is the reason Thom, Ed and Jonny could fly so high. As a drummer and bassist, Colin and Phil have been great influences and teachers. Like JPJ and Bonham their greatness is measured in how well they support the others band members.

  • @anus333
    @anus333 2 роки тому +19

    He was born to be a drummer (drum phil)

  • @deanfowles3707
    @deanfowles3707 Рік тому +13

    He's no slouch on drums, he just knows well the golden rule. Less is more.

  • @adamalesidrums
    @adamalesidrums 2 роки тому +15

    Great breakdown of Phil's iconic grooves. He definitely has that Ringo vibe where he only plays what is necessary to support the song. I always loved his Elvin Jones-like rolling swing feel on Pyramid Song

  • @yaqzan24
    @yaqzan24 11 місяців тому +4

    Very instructive and I dig the good vocabulary too!

  • @jazzymountains
    @jazzymountains 2 роки тому +5

    philip looks so natural and clean the way he can make sound is so fricking cooollllll

  • @Kitchyyy
    @Kitchyyy 2 роки тому +5

    ive been waiting for this one

  • @jazzymountains
    @jazzymountains 2 роки тому +11

    Like myxomatosis is sick

    • @vzmol
      @vzmol 2 роки тому +3

      Myxomatosis makes me want to learn drums :-)

  • @richarddunne9802
    @richarddunne9802 Рік тому +6

    I learned a lot from his drumming when I was starting out; about structure, about time-signatures and about how to play for the song. Nice to see his understated playing being appreciated!

  • @stuarthollyoak2117
    @stuarthollyoak2117 2 роки тому +9

    Always admired Phil's drumming. I'm not one for delving into music terminology but I think you explained his style well. Brilliant video.

  • @narayanbahuguna6538
    @narayanbahuguna6538 2 роки тому +6

    The king of consistency

  • @Omgivende
    @Omgivende 2 роки тому +5

    Thanks Joe 😊

  • @trae1965
    @trae1965 6 місяців тому +4

    Superb analysis and demonstrations, Mr. Edelmann.

  • @patrickhaynes9315
    @patrickhaynes9315 2 роки тому +7

    listening to Can for the first time really made Phil's groove click into place

  • @Cle44139
    @Cle44139 2 роки тому +4

    Unrelated - the prettiest RH solo melody ever is Phil's BY SOME MIRACLE imho

  • @fersen3
    @fersen3 2 місяці тому +4

    Beautiful job Joe, thank you for those explanations, you are very talented…

  • @FluffyMomo
    @FluffyMomo 2 роки тому +5

    Great vid!👏

  • @Dickielove1
    @Dickielove1 Рік тому +5

    I truly apprecaite your explanations here, especially since I'm a casual musician with zero theory knowledge. But I pick up what I can, and you help my learning. Thanks, dude :)

  • @iamnotai
    @iamnotai 2 роки тому +5

    Where was this video when I started playing drums 12 years ago!

  • @tima9752
    @tima9752 Рік тому +5

    Great video! I also love his playing!
    Did I see it right? You didn't use any rimshots, did you?
    I also realized when I was watching Phil playing he didn't use rimshots either, did he?

    • @JoeEdelmann3
      @JoeEdelmann3  Рік тому +4

      I didn’t really - I think he mostly avoids them too!

  • @jazzymountains
    @jazzymountains 2 роки тому +19

    He’s a great drummer

    • @LetMeGuess2
      @LetMeGuess2 2 роки тому +6

      Great singer too from his independent music

  • @Porsalin
    @Porsalin 2 роки тому +3

    Man you're tight.

    • @Hakucho64
      @Hakucho64 Рік тому

      Yeah I'm in awe (as a non-drummer) of the level of coordination necessary to play these patterns!

  • @vzmol
    @vzmol 2 роки тому +6

    I really appreciated this one. How to play like... Phil is the kind of drummer who's persona shines through what he does. I think one has to be Phil Selway to play like Phil Selway :) There's no recipe.
    There are couple of things. One, that RH always pushed themselves to new things. And collectively, they grew. Phil just wouldn't have created this awesome drum arrangements without the band.
    Phil is a great guy. I don't know him, but I wish I would and I know I'm not alone. He even did his own songs and they are great! I mean... respect. Huge respect for what he does and how he does it.
    The drumming - his focused appearance. Technicality. And of course I love your view, Joe, since you are very talented and know music a lot more deeply as a musician - appreciate it very much.
    And... Pyramid Song. I don't know if it's the hardest one, probably not, but it was fascinating me for a long time.
    You meet with Radiohead one day, I know it.

  • @Ad-ig3lw
    @Ad-ig3lw 2 роки тому +11

    He's an incredible drummer, and you're incredible at explaining music ! Thanks ! :)

  • @cjmahoney
    @cjmahoney 2 роки тому +4

    LOVE THE SHIRT

  • @jazzymountains
    @jazzymountains 2 роки тому +7

    The drumming

  • @gio_is_swag
    @gio_is_swag 2 роки тому +5

    also he often starts fills with a synchronous crash and snare hit.

    • @JoeEdelmann3
      @JoeEdelmann3  2 роки тому +4

      Yep! Kind of related to what I was getting at around 10:11

  • @jimbaaab
    @jimbaaab 2 роки тому +4

    Nice t-shirt!

  • @richiesmith6376
    @richiesmith6376 Рік тому +4

    Amazing work! Love your commitment to accurately transcribing their music. 🎉

  • @NealCaen
    @NealCaen Місяць тому +3

    every pattern is incredible but In Limbo and Where I End & You Begin is F-ing sickkkkkkkkk 😅

  • @ronvanlaarhoven3142
    @ronvanlaarhoven3142 2 роки тому +7

    Nice drumming Joe, I also experience the drums of paranoid android are quite complicated😊

  • @roryhensen
    @roryhensen 2 роки тому +5

    finally.

  • @bobharley2814
    @bobharley2814 Рік тому +4

    Well done.

  • @Kitchyyy
    @Kitchyyy 2 роки тому +3

    didnt realize how good the drums are on in limbo until now

  • @christophernoia5197
    @christophernoia5197 2 роки тому +6

    Great video! I’ve only been drumming for a bit over a year, coming from guitar, piano, and flute. I love it! It would be so rad to see you dissecting grizzly bear songs, especially the drums. Christopher bear is such an interesting drummer, I don’t even know how to describe him! Sometimes what he’s playing sounds totally random before it comes together into a sick groove, but it’s not. He reproduces that live very well.

  • @imjustamagician
    @imjustamagician 2 роки тому +8

    I don't think I would like Pyramid Song as much without Phil's drumming

  • @jazzymountains
    @jazzymountains 2 роки тому +6

    i feel that the national anthem is worth mentioning as great drumming

  • @rickfreed2
    @rickfreed2 2 роки тому +5

    Yeah Bodysnatchers is tough to keep going at consistent dynamics and keeping that tempo even is a challenge especially if one has been doing a lot of dancing around the pocket playing because "Bodysnatchers" is dead on from start to finish. There's no playing before or behind the back beat or switching it up. That said his decisions dynamically keep that song sounding loose and not mechanical. So yeah a tough thing to replicate and deceptively simple sounding but not at all easy to play correctly.

  • @OleksandrBanashko
    @OleksandrBanashko 2 роки тому +4

    Great work man, thanks for video

  • @prongs0611
    @prongs0611 2 роки тому +8

    This was entertaining af to watch even from the perspective of someone who is not a drummer

    • @JoeEdelmann3
      @JoeEdelmann3  2 роки тому +4

      I’m glad! I always hope that even my specific topic dives still contain something interesting for everyone

    • @prongs0611
      @prongs0611 2 роки тому +2

      @@JoeEdelmann3 They always do :)

  • @johnnypiss
    @johnnypiss 2 роки тому +4

    Phil > Ringo. He is the greatest drummer and most underrated IMO. Nice video.

  • @massimolissandron901
    @massimolissandron901 2 роки тому +4

    Top video! Can you make a video on how Radiohead use and set guitar amps like vox ...? thankss

  • @markoan4339
    @markoan4339 2 роки тому +4

    gran baterista...

  • @marcpetelle3940
    @marcpetelle3940 Рік тому +2

    You got the "In Limbo" drum pattern wrong ;) Nailed the rest though! Good job !

  • @showbis10
    @showbis10 2 роки тому +5

    Thanks for the video man! Great work….one of favorite pages on UA-cam.
    Any chance one of these days you’ll tackle some of those synth sounds in the new Smile album? Hope so….you’re the man!

  • @andrewanaya
    @andrewanaya 2 роки тому +9

    Hi Joe, I've been following your radiohead covers for a while, pretty amazing, I tried to form a tribute to radiohead here in mexico but I never could haha, I want to make just one observation in "in limbo" (at "in limbo"? on "in limbo? not pretty sure), you missed the ghost reverb on the snare after the double kick, no offense, everything else pretty freaking nice, specially "where I end and you begin", a delight, thanks

  • @thebreakfastmenu
    @thebreakfastmenu 2 роки тому +4

    I'd be interested in some Tame Impala sound-like tutorials in the future! You have those sounds down pretty good too

  • @vladlabyrinth6335
    @vladlabyrinth6335 2 роки тому +5

    Joey Waronker plss)

  • @tee8552
    @tee8552 2 роки тому +5

    im curious, youre super good at drums, were you a drummer first, or a guitarist? or did you start on another instrument?

    • @JoeEdelmann3
      @JoeEdelmann3  2 роки тому +5

      Thank you, that means so much to me ☺️I technically wanted to start learning in drums, but I ended up taking guitar lessons first and then picking up drums on my own later. I still would like to think of myself as a drummer too and I think drums are one of the most exciting parts of my favorite songs.

    • @tee8552
      @tee8552 2 роки тому +4

      @@JoeEdelmann3 ah, i see! thats super cool, drums are probably my favorite part of songs as well :)

  • @lorenz_18
    @lorenz_18 2 роки тому +7

    I've been playing drums for four years. philip selway was one of my inspiration. I think phil is the best prog drummer the world has ever seen.
    Ps. Do you have listen to the new the smile album?

    • @JoeEdelmann3
      @JoeEdelmann3  2 роки тому +2

      Phil is super inspirational. I have heard it! I dig it. Although I kind of prefer the live versions of a couple of them (I spoiled myself on those versions) 😂

  • @Cle44139
    @Cle44139 2 роки тому +4

    What's your take on Phil's addition to Traffic from Thom's 3rd solo record Anima?

    • @JoeEdelmann3
      @JoeEdelmann3  2 роки тому +3

      I thought he was on Impossible Knots, not Traffic? But I love both/that whole album!

    • @Cle44139
      @Cle44139 2 роки тому +3

      @@JoeEdelmann3 I stand corrected! Huh... guess what I'm heading over to listen to next haha

  • @388C4CGREEN
    @388C4CGREEN Рік тому

    OH MR. PHIL SELWAY, YOU BEAUTIFULLY BALDED MAN. YOUR HEAD GLISTENS IN THE LIGHT JUST LIKE YOUR CYMBALS DO

  • @oschahafilda7305
    @oschahafilda7305 2 роки тому +4

    Finally IM not alone be a radiohead fans 😊 , 🇮🇩

  • @crawford531
    @crawford531 2 роки тому +6

    Hey Joe! Great video! Would you like to make video about Radiohead's drum-machines, electronic drums and probably about impact of Clive Deamer? ( as i see you didn't done it )
    And how are you feel about possible Interpol "How to Play" series?

    • @JoeEdelmann3
      @JoeEdelmann3  2 роки тому +7

      Definitely could explore Clive and electronic sounds in future editions! Thought about incorporating some of that here but wanted to give Phil the full respect and airspace first. And definitely looking to do Interpol deep dives as well.

  • @DanielS10291
    @DanielS10291 2 роки тому +4

    Not watched yet but ive noticed he likes to start his fills on his snare hit? So either on 3 or on 7 in 4/4 or 4 in a 6/4. Most other drummers will play/start them over the last beat

  • @kkrsnn5632
    @kkrsnn5632 2 роки тому +4

    Cool. I get a feeling that at times Phil is playing the same thing - but I know that is a false statement 😉 The style is yeah jazzy you might say 🤔

  • @lastname2139
    @lastname2139 2 роки тому +4

    Can you cover pavement

    • @JoeEdelmann3
      @JoeEdelmann3  2 роки тому +3

      I’m not super deep on their stuff but I hear great things!

  • @jakeyboy2929
    @jakeyboy2929 2 роки тому +5

    Thanks Joe. Do you have any advice for someone that doesn’t play drums or have access to learn but wants to create rhythms like this in drum software? Is there any fundamentals i need to stick to?

    • @JoeEdelmann3
      @JoeEdelmann3  2 роки тому +7

      Well, there’s sort of two ways to go: like Thom, you could make beats that are skittery, syncopated and almost unplayable by a human (except for Joey Waronker in Atoms for Peace 😂)…. Or you could focus on some basic ideas from acoustic drumming, such as the kick and snare rarely play together, crashes tend to hit together with the kick, and varying the velocity/loudness of snare notes to create accents and ghost notes.

  • @deanfowles3707
    @deanfowles3707 Рік тому +4

    Another thing with the Phil is, despite radiohead mostly being slow songs, he hasn't once to my knowledge done that rhythmic but annoying bouncing the stick on the snare mini fart roll thing that all drummers feel compelled to do on slow songs. Last time that was creative and interesting was in 1846, and Phil doesn't do it so for that I'm eternally grateful

  • @charlyalegria5313
    @charlyalegria5313 2 роки тому +4

    What's the tuning of the acústic set?
    Great vídeo!!

    • @JoeEdelmann3
      @JoeEdelmann3  2 роки тому +4

      Thanks! I honestly forget, but I think the floor Tom’s around a B and the rack may be a perfect fifth of F#?

  • @cbrooks0905
    @cbrooks0905 8 місяців тому +1

    Yeah, and trying to get any other drummer to play like this is virtually impossible. Ironically, the best drummer I’ve found that suited what I was going for and would play more simple looping beats was a jazz drummer.