Also when the husband said: "you're welcome" as he gave her that apron, that seemed so manipulative. He knew exactly what he was doing The husband seems like my worst nightmare
Bro. The way the girl tried to pretend that Hannan's husband was even on that flight to start with. When in reality, he had his dad GET HIM ON THE FLIGHT and NEXT TO HER. They COMPLETELY ignore the fact that she didn't even want to date the dude to start with, and when they did date, he didn't respect the fact that she wanted to wait a year before marriage! Dude smashed her dreams, and its so telling that these people have no idea what Juliard is! That is decades of HARD WORK, SACRIFICES, AND TALENT/LUCK! I'M SORRY, but it isn't like she dropped out of community college! No one throws away passion like that without being forced/manipulated to do so. I just hope she can make peace and live happily.
@@poshamcfarlane4655I'm not even convinced she's in denial. I think she's denying for fear of her husband. It's telling that she was more willing to be honest with the interviewer when Daniel wasn't around.
@@stephe1506i thought it was 42? But still, they get thousands (or even millions in some cases) of people trying to get into their school, so it’s very telling of how talented a ballerina can be if they are accepted into Julliard
The better approche would have been: "Hey, my dad owns the airline. I get you a seat in first class and make them bring you a bottle of champagne, if you are fine with that." If she is ok with it, then a week later ask her on a date.
He is. And she chose to be with him knowingly. She then stayed with him knowingly. And she is still with him, knowingly. I won t have sympathy for her, she chose her fate.
im glad someone else agrees - reading that made me geniunely sad. she deserves to live out the life she wants to, not a life a manipulative man wants her to
what if she decided that having a family was more important to her? We all have to make sacrifices in life. Some people sacrifice their career to have a family, others sacrifice their opportunity to have a family in favour of a career. you can't have everything.
@@wolfsmaid6815 I am aware of that, it just that that specific line sounded really bittersweet. I'm sure she loved dancing but ultimately gave it up for her family. I'm not saying that's a bad thing but I'm sure she missed dancing a lot.
The not planning pregnancies thing is so irresponsible. There’s no excuse in this day and age. Even in past centuries, people tried to control how many children they had. It didn’t always work, of course, but they tried
agreed! It is very obvious they are "white genocide"/"great replacement" believing folk or at least the husband is. Which for anyone reading, that shit is fake and stupid. And for those who believe in those "theories" I am so sorry you didn't get the education you deserved.
Bruh the way Mormonism sells motherhood makes these women think it’s totally normal to be perpetually pregnant. It’s terrifying. They literally think it’s their job to bring kids down to then raise them to be baptized in the church and I think they tally points when you’re dead. More kids more points better heaven . Not joking. 😅😅
“No excuse” is a dumb argument to say because indoctrination overrides that… Also, now the republication party in the US is trying to ban access to that.
What creeps me out the most is that she got epidural only once, when her husband wasn't present, and that she whispered it to the journalist, when he stepped out for a while.
Ballarine farm sounds like a horror moive about selling ballarine feet to old billonares so they can dance Edit: this is the second time I got a top comment on this channle let's gooooooo
Plot is too on the nose for the title, but I agree it sounds like it could be a horror movie. A good title is suggestive of themes or vague about major plot points or character moments imo
I think he wants to punish her for rejecting him at the beginning. That’s why she couldn’t get a decent birthday present, that’s why she can’t have pain killers during labor and can’t have nannies around the house. This man is slowly killing her by exhaustion.
Lowering her voice while she admits she had an epidural… as if she’s ashamed or afraid… and the only reason she COULD was because he wasn’t there while she was in active labour 😢
@@ghoultooth She has rights because she lives in the West. Even with pressure, she’s still consenting to the mistreatment the longer she goes without confronting or correcting it. It’s a tough pill to swallow, but it’s true. I still sympathize with her, of course.
@@LoneWulf278not you blaming her 😂 women don't give men power, men abuse women in different ways it's not always physical, don't underestimate the power of psychological manipulation
Seemed like birth control wasn't even an option. Cause even if she wanted kids, feels like she's forced to be all 'natural' so there was no limit on how many is enough to be happy. She's doing so much on top of doing house chores aside from keeping in shape and looking after kids. It's like she never got a break while her husband gets a break from his job.
And that’s exactly what people talk about when they criticize the reality of that lifestyle. Nobody is saying it’s wrong for a woman to choose that. But it’s always misunderstood or misrepresented as shaming them. A lot of women end up being burnt out and unappreciated eventually. Then they have to start all over again and rebuild their lives from the ground up. But no matter how many people this happens to, there’s always someone who thinks they are special.
I try to imagine it. Of course she doesnt work, but she has 8 kids, doing house chores, homeschooling and a farm?? Theres absolutely no time left for her alone.
"i was a good ballerina" wow, i never thought i would read something so heartbreaking. they say dancers die twice in their lifetimes, once when they stop dancing, and once when they die for real. i don't watch ballerina farm content so i don't know if she still dances, but wow, that quote just killed me. she sounds like she loved ballet, so i hope she gets a chance to dance again.
"wife appliance" EXACTLY. I was telling my dad about the apron bit, and at first i was about to say it's the same as buying your wife a microwave (first small kitchen appliance that came off the top of my head, but toaster oven or stand mixer would probably be a better fit) than i realize dt's even WORSE than that, because he bought her an APRON so she can do the work by hand without the aid of a kitchen appliance. I'm sure anything that makes her life as a homemaker easier is strictly prohibited in the household. He probably gets off on her suffering.
Some men could be so happy with their wives, if they just gave up CONTROL and POWER. But no, they prefer have the power dynamic instead of true love and happiness. Pathetic.
yup considering that professional ballarinas don't have long careers because their feet get all messed up from dancing like that. So he literally could have let her have her career, at least for a couple of years, but nope .... gotta get those kids cooking in the wife appliance ...
As someone from a different country looking in (third-world), I was puzzled by the reality that this is a wealthy couple not merely CHOOSING to live simply, but CHOOSING to recreate the same conditions that people fought to get away from. Funny enough, I had this exact same conversation with an American conservative, because I told her she "mentally masturbates to struggle and hardship-- a decent sign she's not REALLY struggling at all". The obsession with having an 'organic' family has to be rooted in a lack of identity, especially one that causes you to consitently aestheticize and brand a lifestyle that DOES NOT translate the same based on country or soci-economic status.
You're absolutely right. I think people are simply dissatisfied with the world as it is and romanticize a time when everything was supposedly simpler. They have a completely romanticized view of the relationship between the sexes back then, when gender roles were less fluid, and want to recreate that. There is a certain stability when all the rules are clear and the roles in a partnership don't have to be negotiated. However, they forget that this requires the partners to bend where they don't fit the role. Like the wife in this case.
From a third world too and a lot of conservatives from my country praise and prop her up. Suffering gets glorified as being something greater and grandeur. Its “bad” to have an easy life according to them and “she is fixing all what is wrong with the West and ‘modern women’”
Interestingly enough. All the equipment you see BF use in her house and farm are incredibly expensive. You have to be rich to live like you’re poor. Her stove is vintage and costs thousands of dollars for ex. The lack of identify is because her faith highly pushes a one size fits all way of life.
I grew up Mormon in Utah, and the women’s youth groups (called young women’s) would literally have us take “field trips” to try on wedding dresses as CHILDREN. And have us imagine our weddings. Then tell us we have to be “worthy” in order to find a husband. Mormons brain wash women from a young age that it’s our job and duty to get married and have children. And honestly it’s not just women, when men go on their missions they’re HEAVILY indoctrinated that when they come back they need to immediately find a wife and start a family. This is why in Utah people get married and settle down from 18-20. It’s a cult. It’s a cult. It’s a cult.
I grew up in Idaho.... went to a Baptist church and Mormon events for girls. They teach just about the same stuff. Purity and that woman's sole purpose is to get married and have children that's it. Girls are given "hope chests" which is a trunk that over time your family and you would fill with things to take with you when you get married. Like its programed in you at a young age that your only hopes should be finding a husband and having lots of kids. Boys are not given a hope chest, but girls are. I remember going to Mormon youth groups and summer camps where we learned how to put on makeup modestly at 10, sew and cook. Countless events about staying pure for our future husband. Were there any events about male purity and staying pure for their futures wives. Noope. It is a cult. It is brainwashing and grooming. It is creepy and harmful and something that stays with you forever.
Right I was like “that’s not a meet cute that’s a hostage situation”. But also it’s just weird to me because if I express romantic interest in someone and they tell me “no” I just drop it and move on
As a former mormon, something i think a lot of people are missing in this conversation is that her choice was one made without other options. In mormonism there is one way of life and it’s presented as if other options for how to live your life are inherently evil and made to dissuade you from the life god made for you. To her giving up her dreams and getting married and having kids was the only option that was ‘godly’. There is very little choice in mormonism, and i think not many people know that.
This! Some say that she “chose” to change her dreams, but informed free consent is non existent when you are part of a cult. I have a good friend in a similar situation (not mormon, but catholic) struggling and it’s impossible to help her out because she just cannot fathom her life in any other way than what she was indoctrinated into believing.
Still her choice. She could have chosen "evil". She went to school, let s respect her enough to think she s smart enough to be accountable for her life choices.
I felt a lil bad for her when she got an egg apron instead of tickets, she obviously does so much work around the house and sometimes she’s so exhausted she has to stay in bed for a week. A trip to greece would have been nice 😔
@@etienne8110 I don't know about that : he looks like a control freak. He literally stalked her to get to date her. Guys like that don't usually let their partner go so easily.
imagine having a gf who got into the most prestigious school for art which is very hard to get into and a rlly big achievement but not let her go through the education she earned bcs you wanted to marry after a month of knowing her (i think he just wanted to sleep with her and since they’re mormon they cant until marriage so he wanted to marry to sleep with her sooner)
My mother was forced into semi-adulthood at a very young age and it made her very independent and she has always worked outside of the home, whilst also maintaining the family home for my brother, father and I (she cooked our meals every night too, despite working full time). She said this to me once "when I am at work, I am nobody's wife and nobody's mother...I'm just me". That has stayed with me all of my life and helped to make me the woman I am today.
And it also honestly feels like her husband mocking her for the thing she never got to pursue, now she gets to be a forever-unfulfilled pet ballerina in a little gilded farm enclosure, where he won't even let her have a damn barn to dance in.
He's very very jealous of her and passive aggressively trying to destroy her greatness. @@chloedsmith This kind of thing happens all the time. Boyfriends and husbands will tell their ambitious girlfriends they study too much or work too hard instead of supporting them so they can become doctors or lawyers or whatever they want to do. Finish teaching college, culinary arts, music. They want to put a ring on them and a baby in them ASAP. Other times they don't want to get married, they just want to string them along until they dump them for a younger woman, having tricked them into sacrificing their dreams. And it is trickery dangling a future in front of them. While they throw everything they worked hard for away for some crusty loser guy that put stars in their eyes for reasons we can't understand.
We are, but keep in mind that BF is LDS, and this lifestyle is highly pushed on its members since the time they’re little girls. The only difference is BF has money to tap out any time she wants.
@tiahnarodriguez3809 this is true, and you will be called "less of a woman" and "not feminine enough" if you don't want to have kids. They just basically say that means you must be a defective or something. Sadly, not enough women grow up laughing in their incel faces, but instead develop severe mental problems. Utah psych wards are filled with girls who tried to unalive themselves because they couldn't find a return Mormon missionary to marry. It's really sad.
@@chailattemhmm why else would she be begging for a trip to Greece, if she could just go… in that culture women are chattel, the only reason they are kept around despite being thought of as nothing, is that men still can’t reproduce by themselves.
Mormonism isn't the only reason that she might not want to leave him. Even if she wanted a divorce, his dad's a CEO, which means he's got some powerful lawyers on standby that could really screw her over in court.
I'd also like to throw in that a woman leaving her husband puts her in one of the most dangerous situations for her. It's most often the partner that kills a woman, especially when she tries to leave him. This is especially true for men with highly patriarchal mindsets of "the man is the leader of the family". She couldn't even get the epidural without him stepping out, I don't doubt that she probably knows he could be dangerous if she tried to leave with or without the kids.
Also her name is not on the legal docs for the business and probably home too! Ppl found the legal docs for ballerina farms and her husbands name was the only name listed on there!
In my experience as a journalist, people always think we're biased if the articles don't accurately reflect the readers' opinions. All readers always consider themselves to be completely unbiased. So a journalist who writes something that doesn't fit into their world view must be up to something. It may also be partly true that journalists are not always impartial. But in my experience, there is no ill will or sinister motivation behind it.
however in this case it seems like the journalist asked Hannah for an interview on their business, and then made the article about her being an "a-us3d tradwife". Imo there are two options here 1: a journo hungry for clicks or 2: Hannah played this just right for more publicity.
@@wolfsmaid6815I think there can definitely be another few options. The one that makes the most sense to me is that the journalist went in to report on her brand and business. But the things she noticed were so obvious and palpable that it wouldn’t make sense to not put that in when the interview is about the person behind the account. You can definitely argue that the article may have morphed into something different than intended, but at the same time the journalist is also working with what’s presented to her as well. At the end of the day the only ones who know if this is accurate reporting are the subject, the husband and the journalist. We’re all speculating to some degree or another.
@@HallucinatingHedgehogs that´s true. Maybe I´m just used to my countries obscure and manipulative press tactics and I project it onto others, so there might be a bias from my side there.
@@wolfsmaid6815 that’s fair, we all have implicit biases myself included. It’s hard to be aware of those blind spots but it’s definitely something to be aware of everyone. Also I’m sorry that’s the situation in your country that’s very messed up.
I've been interviewed for a newspaper and that journalist twisted my words by around 180 degrees. In most cases he just left out any nuance I had expressed, but in a few sentences it was the exact reverse. I would mention some counterargument to my argument, to dispel it, but he just quoted that counterargument as if it was my opinion, while not quoting anything from my actual argument. He basically just had a story in his head and needed to interview someone to support that story. That isn't the norm, but it certainly happens.
The saddest part it that she could have done perfectly both things. Have a career as a ballerina, and once your peak years start to fade, start having kids. There is ZERO reason why this could not have happened.
Husbands like hers are abusive and what to destroy their women into shells of themselves so that they can have an empty vessel to incubate children and indoctrinate them. He wanted to break her into his perfect wife because he decided that she would be the easiest option for sex, child rearing and housework. She is nothing but a tool for him to reach his goals and her dreams will not matter to him, no matter how good her success could make him look. Its about what he wants, in his eyes. He wants kids and a wife at home so he will make sure to take away EVERYTHING that could have her outside of that role. This is abuse. And she cannot leave. He will destroy her more in any separation or divorce, she has nothing in her name and is tied down by children. Not even murdering him could free her. Her death would make her children vulnerable. There's nothing she can do. She was brainwashed by a culture that told her to forgo her wishes for the wants of a man and now she lives in purgatory till the day she is too exhausted to wake up. This is hell. She cannot escape. I wish her luck but I'm not stupid; I know she's stuck and cannot ever be free.
Seriously Her husband is "fuck the world" rich, so money was literally no object. It could have been the best case scenario for her; he could've financed her career, paying for shows, even financing a studio for her to teach ballet if she wanted. The fact he didn't choose foster his wife's art that she devoted her life to till they met says A LOT about how shitty he is. He may not yell at her or physically harm her, but I bet he's not paying nearly enough attention to how she feels, what she wants to do, etc as an actual good husband would.
But that would have interfered with her husband's farmer LARP. But seriously, they are at the wealth level where they don't have to compromise their happiness, but she's still talking about "sacrifice".
If my dad gave my mom an apron when she was expecting a trip to Greece, she’d have *murdered* him. My dad was terrible at gift giving, but my parents didn’t buy into patriarchy. My mom was in charge of the finances, so she bought herself the presents she wanted. And that is how my mother discarding patriarchy saved my father’s life.
My parents are same like your. And they're the most happy and fun marriage couple i have ever seen. They always laugh and live with each other and patriarchy has no place in there marriage life
@ My dad was a product of the era in which he was raised (the 40s) in many ways. I can’t say patriarchy had no impact on my parents marriage, but at least they both bucked the patriarchy, even if they weren’t able to completely throw it off. There was room for improvement, but compared to my peers, my family was a dream.
"I was a good ballerina." Gosh, its making me tear up and I'm not even a dancer. I just- as a woman, i feel her desire for more, for a chance to to succeed in her dreams and she just had to give that all up. I really hope that one day, shes gets to go up on stage again. And that time, be a Great Ballerina.
“Ballerina Farm” straight-up sounds a horror movie where a farm produces ballerinas or ballet dancers in eldritch horror style for the riches & elites, reading this article sounds insane, like ✨deadass✨
This whole situation reminds me of a quote from The Great Gatsby, said by the character Daisy ( a character who has a very similar experience to this woman and honestly the woman in this video could maybe relate very hard to her) "I hope she'll be a fool-that's the best thing a girl can be in this world, a beautiful little fool."
I grew up Independent Fundamental Baptist which has just strict as Mormonism and has the same cycles of patriarchy, and like you said it really is hard to imagine there is a different reality when you grow up in a closed circle that tells you from the day you're born 'this is how things are'
Yes, she is an adult woman and chose this path of life BUT no one deserves this treatment by their own partner. The husband ignores her only one wish for her birthday that he could get the plane ticket easily but buys her an egg apron which is for task to do in the farm which is not a very good birthday present, he could buy her something luxurious items. Also, he preventing her to take any epidural says everything about this husband. No one deserves this kind of treatment at all. I've seen people misunderstanding this situation. Hannah deserve better for everything she does for this family. Another thing that irks me people said she is fine because she married a rich man like how does that makes her happy when her life is kinda dreadful. Money doesn't buy happiness people!
Even if he isn't yelling at her or physically abusing her, she will be a shell of a human in a few decades. Not just because she never got to pursue ballet, but the constant interruptions, not being listened to, and lack of agency will eat her up on the inside. I honestly hope she gets to divorce his ass and take enough money from him to finance her ballet career.
why do you think she's on a farm? where she has to literally go milk a cow for milk and make her own bread? Its an isolation tool. I wonder if she's even safe
Well the flight and her saying she wanted to wait a year for marriage and to finish school and he said no then it was arranged within a month. He’s creepy, pushy trash and she’s too good for him in so many ways. And he’s saying that 9 months after a baby they’re ready for another? Probably not if he carried them. I hate this guy for so so so many reasons.
My question is isn’t it some sort of privacy violation crimes to have your travel information disclosed to a stranger without your consent?? Like let’s start there. Everyone failed her, her family, the airline staff (who probably had no choice) and honestly life failed her. I hope one day she can be a ballerina again in her own way
The “left vs right” people arguing about it are completely irrelevant. It’s fine for a woman to live that life, it’s fine for one not too, as long as it’s her choice and what she wants. It seems like she was manipulated, bullied and belittled for everything she wanted and eventually just broke. That’s wrong no matter what your views are
I agree in a vacuum but i think talking about who is arguing in favor of which side is important in discussing this rising trend in romanticizing trad wife lifestyle (not stay at home mom lifestyle) Because its hard to keep this kind of conversation apolitical when the side defending this kind of situation are also the ones voting in favor of banning things like abortions, IVF, LGBTQ rights, books, etc. I dont believe that being conservative or liberal ALONE is enough to say that you are for or against this kind of marriage. But it is important to notice the trend in who is defending this situation thats (from my view) clearly abusive.
@@Perpetually_on_fire Spot on. It’s super important to discuss why people are in favor of this lifestyle. This lifestyle is meant to keep women down and comes with a host of beliefs and practices that ensure this. Women can choose to live how they want, but in leaving the conversation just at “choice” we do women a disservice because this type of relationship often leaves women and their children abused and destitute. We have to discuss this issue all the way through.
I mean I don’t think “left vs right” is completely irrelevant when the only people you see saying this is an acceptable way to treat a woman are predominantly right wing.
@@wispisangyou see what you want to see. I’m “right-wing.” Most of the people I know are, and we would never be okay with this. We’re not all mindless clones of the crazy, radical right-wing fanatics that are the ones media gives notice to. Just like I’m sure you’re not a mindless clone of the crazy, radical left-wing fanatics.
As a child of a sahm who’s divorcing my Dad after 30+ years, growing up around a toxic environment where on the surface things are meant to look good but in reality they’re not did a number on me, and I feel for her kids.
Waiting for the update video in a few years when Ballerina’s Hubby gets his wifey upgrade and we get the tell all book deal. Devastating but not new. She was never taught or protected.
She didn’t want to date him. She told him no for six months. He should have backed off. Now she has to keep her beautiful pageant gowns in the garage because there is no room for her stuff. There are billions of people in the world, how many of them get to go to Juilliard? This is a rare accomplishment. Like 12 men and 12 women get in a year? To give it up for a rich man living his dream pretending to be a middle class rancher cowboy …. It’s so evil.
As someone going into the performance arts, I could not imagine sacrificing that for someone. I want to create music and love comes next, otherwise I’d feel like my life is not fulfilling. I’m so sad she was forced to give up everything she aspired to for this guy. Because JUILLIARD??? She must be INCREDIBLE. She must have worked her whole life for that. I hope she can someday return to her true love.
This is a hella scary situation, the husband is crazy rich, and powerful. Having enough power to switch seats to sit next to her on a flight. His father owning jet blue and etc. I would understand why she might not want to say too much and just let him interject and drive the narrative. If he is crazy enough to force her into a marriage, not even waiting a year, getting that seat, practically stalking her, and pressuring her to drop out of a college LIKE JUILLIARD. Can you just imagine what he would do to her if she tries to leave? Or if she says no? Along side with their faith making it harder for her to be more free, her having a family now, probably being broken by all this and a bunch of other factors we can and cannot see. The power and connections the husband has alone prob doesn’t help her situation either.
Yeah😅 such a sad story. I feel that he could've waited... and I feel for her. I think she has a right to share her story... and she can be both a team wife and want to dance. My husband supported me and my passions. I've been able to have both... wish she could've too.
Even though she's actively profiting off a patriarchal system, when I saw that video with the apron I felt so deeply sorry for her, no one deserves to be dehumanised like that
More like the patriarchical system is profiting off the patriarchical system. Mormons have to pay 10% their income to the LDS church, which is why the LDS church funds so many of them.
the "my" in the "my egg apron" implies that either she has already purchased it and was waiting for its arrival, or she already had it and the husband just re-gifted it to her.
As a little girl (as early as 3 years old) I always dreamed of being the perfect stay at home mom to six kids and wife to some nice man… because Mormonism told me that would be my “highest calling and purpose.” It told me that I needed to have as many babies as I could. I changed my degree so so it would take less time for me to be able to get married. In Mormonism, if you’re not married by 22, what are you even doing in life? I wanted to homeschool all of my kids partially so I had control over what they were learning and partially because that was considered “the most righteous approach.” I wanted to cook everything from scratch and basically be super trad-wife-y because that’s what I’d been TAUGHT! Thankfully, I’m 19. I got out soon enough that I still have a chance to live my life for me. Now I’m thinking about getting that masters I wanted. I’m considering becoming a therapist and having my own career. I want a cozy safe place with someone that I love who loves me, a cat, a dog, a couple of house plants, and a lot of books. We’ll see if we have kids, and if we do we’ll only have 1-2. I don’t want an especially large house (just enough space to meet our needs + maybe an office) but I would consider a small backyard. I want to cook more from scratch because it’s good for me. Not because it’s “what I’m supposed to do.” And I don’t want to cook literally everything from scratch anymore. I don’t want to homeschool my kids. This is likely the life I would have chosen if I’d never been Mormon at all. Compare the two. 🥲 Additionally, I don’t desire to be all dressed up around the house all the time and when I do dress up to stay home it’s to make me feel good about myself. I wear things I actually like instead of what’s “modest” now. Mormonism really messes up every bit of your life. Edit: I’ve seen this happen to so many women in my life. I’ll preface this with I love my dad. My dad’s not the problem. Their religion is. My mom has two degrees and she was a fantastic seamstress and artist when I was little. She doesn’t sew or draw anymore. She runs but that’s about her only hobby. She gave up everything for her kids and she probably wouldn’t have had five if it hadn’t been for religious reasons. I could see her having maybe 3. We used to hang out with her friends and their kids all the time. She maybe has like three now. *Women in Mormonism give up their personalities, hobbies, gifts, friends, and careers for their children!*
Yep. Unfortunately dance is something that if you don’t use it you lose it. Maybe if she had gotten to convert that barn into a dance studio like she wanted she’d have a shot butttt
Seems like he didn't sacrifice anything, while she gave up her entire life and future health. No seriously, if she can't get out of bed some mornings because she's that exhausted from taking care of 8 kids and a farm alone, she's heading to an early grave. And him not stepping in despite having the financial means to do so, means he's at least enabling that and at the worst, he knows and does not care. Stress and Burn out kills. She can obviously not juggle all of that and her own health, very few people in the world could, yet he acts as if he's not pushing her towards an early death and depriving their children of their mother. Sorry, but the guy's a failure as a husband and a father. No mentally-healthy person would think this is okay for their partner.
what really bothers me is the fact that people's ideas of "traditional gender roles" is completely fucked up. my great grandpa lived during the wwII era and had a real example of what you could refer to as this, HOWEVER, unlike the modern day spoiled men of society (not all yall just some of us), instead of just sitting on the couch and not doing jack shit, he spent hours working his ass off to provide for his family and still helped with raising the kids and helping his wife when he was home. i know for a fact that if he saw these guys now he would slap the shit out of them.
As an abuse survivor, the way she was trained, trapped, and had her dreams stolen is so common amongst abuse victims. I see myself in her. I feel a lot of people vilified her for promoting the tradwife lifestyle, but she was both brainwashed and forced into it. If there's anything to learn from this situation, its that the tradwife lifestyle is a toxic illusion and NOT something to aspire to.
People forget that her husband quite literally stalked her after she rejected him multiple times, he called his rich little daddy that owns an airline and made *sure* he could sit next to her on her flight.
I remember working with a girl who was pregnant and miserable. She was so nauseous all the time, and her husband wouldn’t let her take medicine. They were Russian.
in an ideal world where anyone can choose whatever and leave it to choose smthn else whenever the original choice is starting to be harmful, i wouldnt be worried about ballerina farm. maybe she *is* happy, who knows? but i will still be worried for her and others like her.
As a practicing Mormon that escaped an abusive marriage, this is an unfortunate cultural thing that can develop, especially in "rich" families. The church DOES NOT condone the abuse of its women. And this woman is being abused. And you can also be abused and still want and love your children.
Your “church” was established by an abuser of women and rapist of little girls. It’s still very much being used by such men to perpetuate such cruelty against women and girls.
As an ex-mormon, I actually stopped being mormon because as I became an adult, I started to scrutinize the sexist and racist aspects of the religion...
The church is perfectly clear on its position that the man is the head of the family and a woman's primary purpose in life is to raise children. They can say they don't condone abuse all they want, but they do create the perfect environment for abuse to flourish. This may be difficult to see from the inside, but that's what it looks like from the outside.
@15:10 dude didn't switch seats on a plane. He called his daddy to put him on the plane, checked the manifest to see where she was sitting, moved whoever was sitting next to her, and had himself placed there instead. Thats WILD.
honestly the egg apron thing alone is heartbreaking because she doesn't even say "an egg apron" she says "my egg apron" which 100% sounds like her husband just put her own apron in a fucking box last second as a "present" instead of even getting her a new present. and he's literally a billionaire whose parents own fucking jet blue so nothing was even stopping him from get her at least like... a new dress or something???? greece tickets would have been nothing to this guy and he couldn't even be fucked to buy her something for her birthday its insane how little he cares about her.
Nobody I've seen mentions her phrasing. She said "Oh, **my** egg apron!" So.... the apron she already had? He wrapped an item she already had as a gift?
Maybe it was on her Amazon wishlist? So, something she wanted, and he knew she wanted, but in a practical way, like you want a new kettle or saucepan. Definitely not something you want as your main birthday present.
Not to be all "but what about the men", but Im happy you said that BOTH were victims of mormonism. While a lot of men DO abuse the power that believe gives them over women, it feels weird to me that a lot of people IMMEDIATELY jumpt to "shes a victim of her husband". tho her husband doesnt seem the greatest of dudes ngl. But mormonism is funky like that and does things with your outlook on life
Totally. It kinda reminds me of those MLM schemes, where the higher ups convince (often sad/lonely) people to join up, at which point they make like 3 dollars a year or lose thousands, no in-between. Obviously the newbies with no money are victims, but the people who convinced them to join are too, in a sense. They are essentially forced to put people under them to survive because of how much time they spend on the scam, they can’t even afford another income source. But at a certain point, they become predators too. Really it’s sad for everyone, and they all suffer under the manipulative, super-rich, company owners who are taking advantage of them. Coincidentally a lot of MLMers are also Mormon.
a lot of people don’t get that people, in this case men, can be victims themselves of religion and patriarchy and still subject other people (generally women) to abuse under the same belief system that abused them. victims of can and often do make more victims and it’s very sad
@@hello_world2767 yeah. hence the cycle of abuse. abusers are more often than not also victims. I dont think that should be an excuse or a free-for-all but it needs to be taken into account.
Because he has all the power she doesn’t. Sure he’s a victim but now he’s just an ab*ser. You’re past doesn’t absolve you from current wrong doing when you’re torturing a woman
Thank you for mentioning mormonism, all these people just gloss over it but they don't understand how that cult influenced their beliefs, family dynamic and social standing
As someone who was raised in a mormon household (left the church many years ago) of 6 children, including me. Her parents wouldn't try to save her cuz thats what mormons want for their daughters. To be married and baby makers. It's so obvious this guy doesn't love her let alone see her as a person. Also I just know this guy doesn't accept no as an answer as he's proven himself in the past by stalking her. I remember my mom telling me stories of a friend of hers (mormon bride) who locked herself in the bathroom on her wedding night cuz she didn't want to be touched. My mom found the story funny, not scary 🙃
With all that money, they could totally afford her to follow her dreams and have a great family at the same time. I also dont think the kids would mind if the food is cooked by a nanny from time to time if they get a happy mother in return.
This is exactly why consent educators have been pushing to expand the discussion of consent past just sexual contexts. The fact that people are even trying to say that this was her choice is almost hilarious. Her choice was the first 100 times she said no to a date with him
When I was 21 I dropped out of International Studies at university because I didn't want to spend a year overseas on exchange, preferring to stay at home with my then boyfriend. I had been wanting to do exchange in France since I was 12, and had been learning French for almost 8 years. I had friends I was going to go with and planned to spend the year in Strasbourg, a beautiful town in Northern France with Germanic influences. It's the biggest regret of my life. I now realise I"ll probably never have the opportunity to do that. I ended up marrying the guy, but I still regret not doing the year and fulfilling my dream. Don't ever sacrifice your dream for a partner. If they don't understand or can't make it work, then they're not right for you.
I’ve been an amateur dancer for 14 years now and if my husband suddenly hit his head and decided that I can’t pursue dance anymore I would be filing for divorce the next day. Giving up dance would feel like cutting off a limb. And I’m nowhere near Julliard level. I can’t imagine how it hurts to give up this one in a million perfect alignment of talent, hard work, and opportunity. They have all that money and she can’t even get herself a dance shed 😭
This is icing on the cake. I cant imagine how many women may be in similar situations just not on social media. I have respect for religion so long as it doesn't harm people, so this is not a dig at mormonism as a WHOLE, but my heart truly aches for women who ARE trapped in relationships like this, who are seen as no more than birth givers and expected to wait hand and foot on children as though she is not a person herself. No dig at stay at home parents, this is not that, again. My heart hurts for people who are in situations JUST LIKE THIS where women may truly feel their only value is to give birth (again no shade to people who want to be mothers/parents, not who I'm talking about), and that they are only seen as people (barely) if they do x y and z. Religion can be so helpful and empowering in helping you live your life how YOU feel you should according to your religion. But this woman gave up EVERYTHING just to be treated as a birth machine and essentially work around the clock. I don't think people also realize how TRAUMATIC childbirth and pregnancy is for many people. It's not an easy feat to have ONE kid let alone EIGHT. This is scary. I hope she can get out of this and find new value in her life. I hope the kids turn out okay and get the therapy they need (and the mom).
It's good that these conversations happen about the dangers of making yourself completely dependent on another person. That way people can at least be warned before making certain decision. Ultimately though I believe that if there are no threats of financial/societal ruin, violence or death, then simple pressure is not a sufficient reason to categorize someone as a full victim of another person. Hannah was not some helpless creature with no opportunities in life, being forced into this situation. She could've still not gone on a date with him, not married him, not given up dance, not have had so many children. She did however and while she might have been pressured to do those things, she was not forced. She either completely chose to do those things, or chose to go along with them. Yes, religious indoctrination can convince people to go against their best interests, but those people are still choosing to go along with that doctrine. My point is I see no reason to feel sorry for Hannah, because she chose this life. She might actually be quite happy with it, but maybe she regrets only specific choices in it. That's allowed without having to infantilize her to the extent that she's being framed as a full victim.
Turning what was supposed to be her dance studio into a goddamn classroom is heartbreaking. Both for the kids who don't get to go go school to socialize, and obviously for this poor woman who isn't allowed to be who she wants to be
This is going to end badly for Hannah. A lot of people forget how fast many people on the internet could catch the red flags on 7Passanger, Ace Family, and many other conservative/family/mormon creators until the scandals started to come.
Fun facts there are some conditioners that you use before shampoo. It's called a reverse therapy, you apply conditioner first, don't wash it, then apply a shampoo on top of it and then wash it out. But they are specific
I remember when I was little, I didn’t want to have children. I was on the way home on the bus, I told the girl next to me I didn’t want to be a mom (not sure what brought up the conversation). She told me that I HAD to be a mother. That God said so and it was my only purpose in life. She was Mormon and two years older than me. I was somewhere in pre-k to 2nd grade.
One thing that worries me is that she seams to have no control at all, like, she can’t buy these tickets herself, sounds like she doesn’t have excess on the money. And like even if she had the money she couldn’t even get a nanny for the trip or go on the trip without without his permission. She is a grown adult they are both parents (even if she seams to do a lot more) THEY HAVE THE MONEY.
I am in a mormon faith family and I can’t wait to move out to be myself. I’m aro/ace and my family is very homophobic. My family wants me to have kids so when I say anything about it they get mad and I hate it I hate how controlling it feels to be in a church I feel gross about being who I am this is no hate to anyone who wants to be Mormon but that’s just me. Thank you for listening:)
Also when the husband said: "you're welcome" as he gave her that apron, that seemed so manipulative. He knew exactly what he was doing
The husband seems like my worst nightmare
My mom all the time
I was so irked when I heard him ! Yikes !
And of course she slapped on a smile and thanked him. He’s got her so *trained* and it’s heartbreaking to witness.
AND LIKE HE'S THE HEIR TO JETBLUE. HE CAN GET TICKETS TO GREECE.
It was even an apron she ordered HERSELF. Like straight from the delivery box
"I was a good ballerina." what if i start sobbing right now
REAL I feel so bad for her. It just seems so sad. I so badly want to get her out of there and get her back into being a ballerina.
No, cuz same. I’ve seen a lot about them but that one little sentence made me tear up… heartbreaking
Bro. The way the girl tried to pretend that Hannan's husband was even on that flight to start with. When in reality, he had his dad GET HIM ON THE FLIGHT and NEXT TO HER. They COMPLETELY ignore the fact that she didn't even want to date the dude to start with, and when they did date, he didn't respect the fact that she wanted to wait a year before marriage!
Dude smashed her dreams, and its so telling that these people have no idea what Juliard is! That is decades of HARD WORK, SACRIFICES, AND TALENT/LUCK! I'M SORRY, but it isn't like she dropped out of community college! No one throws away passion like that without being forced/manipulated to do so.
I just hope she can make peace and live happily.
That part, that girl was in complete denile
She should legit sue the airline for invading her privacy.
@@poshamcfarlane4655I'm not even convinced she's in denial. I think she's denying for fear of her husband. It's telling that she was more willing to be honest with the interviewer when Daniel wasn't around.
Don't they only take in like 9 students total at a time or something ridiculous?
@@stephe1506i thought it was 42? But still, they get thousands (or even millions in some cases) of people trying to get into their school, so it’s very telling of how talented a ballerina can be if they are accepted into Julliard
The dude LITERALLY stalked her flight just to try and get with her.
I don't give a f*** what anyone says, the guy is a giant walking 🚩🚩🚩🚩
The better approche would have been: "Hey, my dad owns the airline. I get you a seat in first class and make them bring you a bottle of champagne, if you are fine with that." If she is ok with it, then a week later ask her on a date.
@@savagesweetheart90 Real alphas stalk their prey
@@RayLikeSunshine😂💀
Rich people get away with sooo much. Sad thing is she doesn’t even get to benefit from it.
He is.
And she chose to be with him knowingly.
She then stayed with him knowingly. And she is still with him, knowingly.
I won t have sympathy for her, she chose her fate.
That 'I was a good ballerina' sounds so bittersweet and sad
im glad someone else agrees - reading that made me geniunely sad. she deserves to live out the life she wants to, not a life a manipulative man wants her to
what if she decided that having a family was more important to her? We all have to make sacrifices in life. Some people sacrifice their career to have a family, others sacrifice their opportunity to have a family in favour of a career. you can't have everything.
@@wolfsmaid6815 I am aware of that, it just that that specific line sounded really bittersweet. I'm sure she loved dancing but ultimately gave it up for her family. I'm not saying that's a bad thing but I'm sure she missed dancing a lot.
@@echtewitje5365 ah sorry, I meant to reply to the comment below yours and messed up. My bad.
@@wolfsmaid6815oop- it happens, don't worry about it ^^ !
The not planning pregnancies thing is so irresponsible. There’s no excuse in this day and age. Even in past centuries, people tried to control how many children they had. It didn’t always work, of course, but they tried
agreed! It is very obvious they are "white genocide"/"great replacement" believing folk or at least the husband is. Which for anyone reading, that shit is fake and stupid. And for those who believe in those "theories" I am so sorry you didn't get the education you deserved.
Yeah, but mormons think they need to bring as many souls as possible in their cult.
Bruh the way Mormonism sells motherhood makes these women think it’s totally normal to be perpetually pregnant. It’s terrifying. They literally think it’s their job to bring kids down to then raise them to be baptized in the church and I think they tally points when you’re dead. More kids more points better heaven . Not joking. 😅😅
“No excuse” is a dumb argument to say because indoctrination overrides that… Also, now the republication party in the US is trying to ban access to that.
The mormon church encourages family's to have as many children as physically possible.
What creeps me out the most is that she got epidural only once, when her husband wasn't present, and that she whispered it to the journalist, when he stepped out for a while.
So freaking dystopian.
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Why do I feel like she's whispering for help rn like-
@@hearteu5260 did You catch her expression after she put the apron on? Yeah.
@@iridium7554 yeah she was trying so hard to hide her disappointment
Ballarine farm sounds like a horror moive about selling ballarine feet to old billonares so they can dance
Edit: this is the second time I got a top comment on this channle let's gooooooo
Plot is too on the nose for the title, but I agree it sounds like it could be a horror movie. A good title is suggestive of themes or vague about major plot points or character moments imo
F it I'd give that crappie movie a try
I was thinking more like they force their kids to be ballerinas
Literally the dark history of classical dance and opera houses
@@Gwenpoolthegoat would watch 4/5
I think he wants to punish her for rejecting him at the beginning. That’s why she couldn’t get a decent birthday present, that’s why she can’t have pain killers during labor and can’t have nannies around the house. This man is slowly killing her by exhaustion.
God this is modern horror
Pain meds during labor are weirdly demonized in Mormon and other cult like churches.
@@rotatopotato5212A Mormon horror, if you will
Lowering her voice while she admits she had an epidural… as if she’s ashamed or afraid… and the only reason she COULD was because he wasn’t there while she was in active labour 😢
The amount of power women voluntarily give men is so interesting to see.
@@LoneWulf278Mmm… see I don’t know if I fully agree that she is voluntarily giving her husband this power. She seems very much pressured into it
@@ghoultooth She has rights because she lives in the West. Even with pressure, she’s still consenting to the mistreatment the longer she goes without confronting or correcting it. It’s a tough pill to swallow, but it’s true. I still sympathize with her, of course.
@@LoneWulf278not you blaming her 😂 women don't give men power, men abuse women in different ways it's not always physical, don't underestimate the power of psychological manipulation
@@LoneWulf278you don't sympathize if you did you wouldn't have blamed her
Seemed like birth control wasn't even an option. Cause even if she wanted kids, feels like she's forced to be all 'natural' so there was no limit on how many is enough to be happy. She's doing so much on top of doing house chores aside from keeping in shape and looking after kids.
It's like she never got a break while her husband gets a break from his job.
And that’s exactly what people talk about when they criticize the reality of that lifestyle. Nobody is saying it’s wrong for a woman to choose that. But it’s always misunderstood or misrepresented as shaming them. A lot of women end up being burnt out and unappreciated eventually. Then they have to start all over again and rebuild their lives from the ground up. But no matter how many people this happens to, there’s always someone who thinks they are special.
I try to imagine it. Of course she doesnt work, but she has 8 kids, doing house chores, homeschooling and a farm?? Theres absolutely no time left for her alone.
He is a bilionare!!!!!!!
@@guilhermegalvaosilvapadua430 and never tried to get her help in the house
she could always try not to get prego... even without an official birth control.
"i was a good ballerina" wow, i never thought i would read something so heartbreaking.
they say dancers die twice in their lifetimes, once when they stop dancing, and once when they die for real. i don't watch ballerina farm content so i don't know if she still dances, but wow, that quote just killed me. she sounds like she loved ballet, so i hope she gets a chance to dance again.
Uhhh Kim there are people dying
If he knew her as a human and not a wife-appliance he could have supported her ballerina life and then they both could have been happy
"wife appliance" EXACTLY. I was telling my dad about the apron bit, and at first i was about to say it's the same as buying your wife a microwave (first small kitchen appliance that came off the top of my head, but toaster oven or stand mixer would probably be a better fit) than i realize dt's even WORSE than that, because he bought her an APRON so she can do the work by hand without the aid of a kitchen appliance. I'm sure anything that makes her life as a homemaker easier is strictly prohibited in the household. He probably gets off on her suffering.
Dude wanted a house maid and pleasure doll, not a human being. Gross 🤢
@@mochimochi7669Truly🤮
Some men could be so happy with their wives, if they just gave up CONTROL and POWER. But no, they prefer have the power dynamic instead of true love and happiness. Pathetic.
yup considering that professional ballarinas don't have long careers because their feet get all messed up from dancing like that. So he literally could have let her have her career, at least for a couple of years, but nope .... gotta get those kids cooking in the wife appliance ...
As someone from a different country looking in (third-world), I was puzzled by the reality that this is a wealthy couple not merely CHOOSING to live simply, but CHOOSING to recreate the same conditions that people fought to get away from. Funny enough, I had this exact same conversation with an American conservative, because I told her she "mentally masturbates to struggle and hardship-- a decent sign she's not REALLY struggling at all". The obsession with having an 'organic' family has to be rooted in a lack of identity, especially one that causes you to consitently aestheticize and brand a lifestyle that DOES NOT translate the same based on country or soci-economic status.
im sure the billionaire living on a farm does not go out for harvest or get up early in the morning to milk the cows or feed the chickens.
@@michaelautrey6641 yeah exactly, thats why he traps his wife into doing that
You're absolutely right. I think people are simply dissatisfied with the world as it is and romanticize a time when everything was supposedly simpler. They have a completely romanticized view of the relationship between the sexes back then, when gender roles were less fluid, and want to recreate that. There is a certain stability when all the rules are clear and the roles in a partnership don't have to be negotiated. However, they forget that this requires the partners to bend where they don't fit the role. Like the wife in this case.
From a third world too and a lot of conservatives from my country praise and prop her up. Suffering gets glorified as being something greater and grandeur. Its “bad” to have an easy life according to them and “she is fixing all what is wrong with the West and ‘modern women’”
Interestingly enough. All the equipment you see BF use in her house and farm are incredibly expensive. You have to be rich to live like you’re poor. Her stove is vintage and costs thousands of dollars for ex. The lack of identify is because her faith highly pushes a one size fits all way of life.
I grew up Mormon in Utah, and the women’s youth groups (called young women’s) would literally have us take “field trips” to try on wedding dresses as CHILDREN. And have us imagine our weddings. Then tell us we have to be “worthy” in order to find a husband. Mormons brain wash women from a young age that it’s our job and duty to get married and have children.
And honestly it’s not just women, when men go on their missions they’re HEAVILY indoctrinated that when they come back they need to immediately find a wife and start a family. This is why in Utah people get married and settle down from 18-20. It’s a cult. It’s a cult. It’s a cult.
Jeez louise that's so creepy and harmful.
I also grew up Mormon, I remember at around 13 or so, we had a lesson on ironing clothes and tying ties for our husbands ☠️
Sounds like grooming to me
I grew up in Idaho.... went to a Baptist church and Mormon events for girls. They teach just about the same stuff. Purity and that woman's sole purpose is to get married and have children that's it. Girls are given "hope chests" which is a trunk that over time your family and you would fill with things to take with you when you get married. Like its programed in you at a young age that your only hopes should be finding a husband and having lots of kids. Boys are not given a hope chest, but girls are. I remember going to Mormon youth groups and summer camps where we learned how to put on makeup modestly at 10, sew and cook. Countless events about staying pure for our future husband. Were there any events about male purity and staying pure for their futures wives. Noope. It is a cult. It is brainwashing and grooming. It is creepy and harmful and something that stays with you forever.
@@MariamaGoncalves-rc9ug wth 💀
o he just straight up forced her into a first date💀
Right I was like “that’s not a meet cute that’s a hostage situation”. But also it’s just weird to me because if I express romantic interest in someone and they tell me “no” I just drop it and move on
The whole airplane seats situation sounds like Colleen Hoover wrote it
@@folded_pizza LMAOOOO FRRRR
As a former mormon, something i think a lot of people are missing in this conversation is that her choice was one made without other options. In mormonism there is one way of life and it’s presented as if other options for how to live your life are inherently evil and made to dissuade you from the life god made for you. To her giving up her dreams and getting married and having kids was the only option that was ‘godly’. There is very little choice in mormonism, and i think not many people know that.
This! Some say that she “chose” to change her dreams, but informed free consent is non existent when you are part of a cult. I have a good friend in a similar situation (not mormon, but catholic) struggling and it’s impossible to help her out because she just cannot fathom her life in any other way than what she was indoctrinated into believing.
its driving me insane. “she chose to stay,” FUCK YOUUUU. “but she says it was manipulated,” USE YOUR BRAINNN
Still her choice. She could have chosen "evil".
She went to school, let s respect her enough to think she s smart enough to be accountable for her life choices.
@@etienne8110me if I thought in black or white and unable to comprehend higher-order thinking
@etienne8110 She was threatened by her own family, she has no choice but obey the cult.
someone PLEASE take that girl to Greece 😭🙏🏾
I felt a lil bad for her when she got an egg apron instead of tickets, she obviously does so much work around the house and sometimes she’s so exhausted she has to stay in bed for a week. A trip to greece would have been nice 😔
@@Yah906ikr. The smug husband in the background made me wanna crawl out of my skin. That isn’t a present it’s a business expense.
@@withcharmtospare "You're welcome !" Iiiiiirk !
She can go there whenever she wants.
She s rich, litterate and healthy.
She chosing not to go. You can t force her...
@@etienne8110 I don't know about that : he looks like a control freak. He literally stalked her to get to date her. Guys like that don't usually let their partner go so easily.
"I read in an article" is so valid though, I literally feel like I've gone to harvard every time I say that
imagine having a gf who got into the most prestigious school for art which is very hard to get into and a rlly big achievement but not let her go through the education she earned bcs you wanted to marry after a month of knowing her (i think he just wanted to sleep with her and since they’re mormon they cant until marriage so he wanted to marry to sleep with her sooner)
My mother was forced into semi-adulthood at a very young age and it made her very independent and she has always worked outside of the home, whilst also maintaining the family home for my brother, father and I (she cooked our meals every night too, despite working full time). She said this to me once "when I am at work, I am nobody's wife and nobody's mother...I'm just me". That has stayed with me all of my life and helped to make me the woman I am today.
That’s a beautiful quote, thank you for sharing!
Ballerina Farm is too...polly pocket of a name for this mormon sadness.
And it also honestly feels like her husband mocking her for the thing she never got to pursue, now she gets to be a forever-unfulfilled pet ballerina in a little gilded farm enclosure, where he won't even let her have a damn barn to dance in.
He's very very jealous of her and passive aggressively trying to destroy her greatness. @@chloedsmith This kind of thing happens all the time. Boyfriends and husbands will tell their ambitious girlfriends they study too much or work too hard instead of supporting them so they can become doctors or lawyers or whatever they want to do. Finish teaching college, culinary arts, music. They want to put a ring on them and a baby in them ASAP. Other times they don't want to get married, they just want to string them along until they dump them for a younger woman, having tricked them into sacrificing their dreams. And it is trickery dangling a future in front of them. While they throw everything they worked hard for away for some crusty loser guy that put stars in their eyes for reasons we can't understand.
@@chloedsmith😬
I want to free her. It's like seeing a sick lion trapped in a circus. She wanted to be a ballerina so her captor named her cage after her dream.
that's such a heartbreaking analogy
i feel like we are seeing the same problems that our grandmas told us about when they were young
We are, but keep in mind that BF is LDS, and this lifestyle is highly pushed on its members since the time they’re little girls. The only difference is BF has money to tap out any time she wants.
@tiahnarodriguez3809 speaking out of my ass here, but I feel like her husband wouldn't be above financial control/manipulation to stop her either :/
@@chailattemhmmOh, entirely.
@tiahnarodriguez3809 this is true, and you will be called "less of a woman" and "not feminine enough" if you don't want to have kids. They just basically say that means you must be a defective or something. Sadly, not enough women grow up laughing in their incel faces, but instead develop severe mental problems. Utah psych wards are filled with girls who tried to unalive themselves because they couldn't find a return Mormon missionary to marry. It's really sad.
@@chailattemhmm why else would she be begging for a trip to Greece, if she could just go… in that culture women are chattel, the only reason they are kept around despite being thought of as nothing, is that men still can’t reproduce by themselves.
Mormonism isn't the only reason that she might not want to leave him. Even if she wanted a divorce, his dad's a CEO, which means he's got some powerful lawyers on standby that could really screw her over in court.
I'd also like to throw in that a woman leaving her husband puts her in one of the most dangerous situations for her. It's most often the partner that kills a woman, especially when she tries to leave him. This is especially true for men with highly patriarchal mindsets of "the man is the leader of the family". She couldn't even get the epidural without him stepping out, I don't doubt that she probably knows he could be dangerous if she tried to leave with or without the kids.
@@strawberryfox8819I actually feel terrified for her.
Also her name is not on the legal docs for the business and probably home too! Ppl found the legal docs for ballerina farms and her husbands name was the only name listed on there!
If the husband had his way, he would leave Ballerina and their children with absolutely nothing, if they were to divorce.
In my experience as a journalist, people always think we're biased if the articles don't accurately reflect the readers' opinions. All readers always consider themselves to be completely unbiased. So a journalist who writes something that doesn't fit into their world view must be up to something. It may also be partly true that journalists are not always impartial. But in my experience, there is no ill will or sinister motivation behind it.
however in this case it seems like the journalist asked Hannah for an interview on their business, and then made the article about her being an "a-us3d tradwife".
Imo there are two options here 1: a journo hungry for clicks or 2: Hannah played this just right for more publicity.
@@wolfsmaid6815I think there can definitely be another few options. The one that makes the most sense to me is that the journalist went in to report on her brand and business. But the things she noticed were so obvious and palpable that it wouldn’t make sense to not put that in when the interview is about the person behind the account.
You can definitely argue that the article may have morphed into something different than intended, but at the same time the journalist is also working with what’s presented to her as well. At the end of the day the only ones who know if this is accurate reporting are the subject, the husband and the journalist. We’re all speculating to some degree or another.
@@HallucinatingHedgehogs that´s true. Maybe I´m just used to my countries obscure and manipulative press tactics and I project it onto others, so there might be a bias from my side there.
@@wolfsmaid6815 that’s fair, we all have implicit biases myself included. It’s hard to be aware of those blind spots but it’s definitely something to be aware of everyone. Also I’m sorry that’s the situation in your country that’s very messed up.
I've been interviewed for a newspaper and that journalist twisted my words by around 180 degrees. In most cases he just left out any nuance I had expressed, but in a few sentences it was the exact reverse. I would mention some counterargument to my argument, to dispel it, but he just quoted that counterargument as if it was my opinion, while not quoting anything from my actual argument. He basically just had a story in his head and needed to interview someone to support that story. That isn't the norm, but it certainly happens.
The saddest part it that she could have done perfectly both things. Have a career as a ballerina, and once your peak years start to fade, start having kids. There is ZERO reason why this could not have happened.
Husbands like hers are abusive and what to destroy their women into shells of themselves so that they can have an empty vessel to incubate children and indoctrinate them.
He wanted to break her into his perfect wife because he decided that she would be the easiest option for sex, child rearing and housework. She is nothing but a tool for him to reach his goals and her dreams will not matter to him, no matter how good her success could make him look.
Its about what he wants, in his eyes. He wants kids and a wife at home so he will make sure to take away EVERYTHING that could have her outside of that role.
This is abuse. And she cannot leave. He will destroy her more in any separation or divorce, she has nothing in her name and is tied down by children.
Not even murdering him could free her. Her death would make her children vulnerable.
There's nothing she can do. She was brainwashed by a culture that told her to forgo her wishes for the wants of a man and now she lives in purgatory till the day she is too exhausted to wake up.
This is hell. She cannot escape. I wish her luck but I'm not stupid; I know she's stuck and cannot ever be free.
Yes ty
Seriously
Her husband is "fuck the world" rich, so money was literally no object. It could have been the best case scenario for her; he could've financed her career, paying for shows, even financing a studio for her to teach ballet if she wanted. The fact he didn't choose foster his wife's art that she devoted her life to till they met says A LOT about how shitty he is. He may not yell at her or physically harm her, but I bet he's not paying nearly enough attention to how she feels, what she wants to do, etc as an actual good husband would.
But that would have interfered with her husband's farmer LARP.
But seriously, they are at the wealth level where they don't have to compromise their happiness, but she's still talking about "sacrifice".
If my dad gave my mom an apron when she was expecting a trip to Greece, she’d have *murdered* him. My dad was terrible at gift giving, but my parents didn’t buy into patriarchy. My mom was in charge of the finances, so she bought herself the presents she wanted. And that is how my mother discarding patriarchy saved my father’s life.
Lmfao😂😂
My parents are same like your. And they're the most happy and fun marriage couple i have ever seen. They always laugh and live with each other and patriarchy has no place in there marriage life
@ My dad was a product of the era in which he was raised (the 40s) in many ways. I can’t say patriarchy had no impact on my parents marriage, but at least they both bucked the patriarchy, even if they weren’t able to completely throw it off. There was room for improvement, but compared to my peers, my family was a dream.
"I was a good ballerina." Gosh, its making me tear up and I'm not even a dancer. I just- as a woman, i feel her desire for more, for a chance to to succeed in her dreams and she just had to give that all up. I really hope that one day, shes gets to go up on stage again. And that time, be a Great Ballerina.
“Ballerina Farm” straight-up sounds a horror movie where a farm produces ballerinas or ballet dancers in eldritch horror style for the riches & elites, reading this article sounds insane, like ✨deadass✨
This is exactly what I was thinking when I read the title.. like a Dance Moms style production line of Ballerinas
Knowing that ballierinas have a history of being sexually exploited in the past… the name “ballerina farm” sounds really disturbing to me
This whole situation reminds me of a quote from The Great Gatsby, said by the character Daisy ( a character who has a very similar experience to this woman and honestly the woman in this video could maybe relate very hard to her)
"I hope she'll be a fool-that's the best thing a girl can be in this world, a beautiful little fool."
I grew up Independent Fundamental Baptist which has just strict as Mormonism and has the same cycles of patriarchy, and like you said it really is hard to imagine there is a different reality when you grow up in a closed circle that tells you from the day you're born 'this is how things are'
"we love the light side of the internet" we all say in unison
The fact that the egg apron colour is similar to the Greece flag makes me feel even sadder for her.
This is actually my worst fear. To stop creating and doing what I love because my partner decides for me what I will do
"And you didnt bump me to first class??" you are so real for this statement😂
Yes, she is an adult woman and chose this path of life BUT no one deserves this treatment by their own partner. The husband ignores her only one wish for her birthday that he could get the plane ticket easily but buys her an egg apron which is for task to do in the farm which is not a very good birthday present, he could buy her something luxurious items. Also, he preventing her to take any epidural says everything about this husband. No one deserves this kind of treatment at all. I've seen people misunderstanding this situation. Hannah deserve better for everything she does for this family. Another thing that irks me people said she is fine because she married a rich man like how does that makes her happy when her life is kinda dreadful. Money doesn't buy happiness people!
The husband is a manipulative psychopath and is emanating abuser vibes. I have a feeling that this will not end well for the wife.
Even if he isn't yelling at her or physically abusing her, she will be a shell of a human in a few decades. Not just because she never got to pursue ballet, but the constant interruptions, not being listened to, and lack of agency will eat her up on the inside. I honestly hope she gets to divorce his ass and take enough money from him to finance her ballet career.
why do you think she's on a farm? where she has to literally go milk a cow for milk and make her own bread? Its an isolation tool.
I wonder if she's even safe
The husband wannabe rancher is the definition of “trustfund baby”
i feel bad for her, i could never give up dancing nor talk with someone interrupting me 24/7
Well the flight and her saying she wanted to wait a year for marriage and to finish school and he said no then it was arranged within a month. He’s creepy, pushy trash and she’s too good for him in so many ways. And he’s saying that 9 months after a baby they’re ready for another? Probably not if he carried them. I hate this guy for so so so many reasons.
My question is isn’t it some sort of privacy violation crimes to have your travel information disclosed to a stranger without your consent?? Like let’s start there. Everyone failed her, her family, the airline staff (who probably had no choice) and honestly life failed her. I hope one day she can be a ballerina again in her own way
The “left vs right” people arguing about it are completely irrelevant. It’s fine for a woman to live that life, it’s fine for one not too, as long as it’s her choice and what she wants. It seems like she was manipulated, bullied and belittled for everything she wanted and eventually just broke. That’s wrong no matter what your views are
I agree in a vacuum but i think talking about who is arguing in favor of which side is important in discussing this rising trend in romanticizing trad wife lifestyle (not stay at home mom lifestyle)
Because its hard to keep this kind of conversation apolitical when the side defending this kind of situation are also the ones voting in favor of banning things like abortions, IVF, LGBTQ rights, books, etc.
I dont believe that being conservative or liberal ALONE is enough to say that you are for or against this kind of marriage. But it is important to notice the trend in who is defending this situation thats (from my view) clearly abusive.
@@Perpetually_on_fire Spot on. It’s super important to discuss why people are in favor of this lifestyle. This lifestyle is meant to keep women down and comes with a host of beliefs and practices that ensure this. Women can choose to live how they want, but in leaving the conversation just at “choice” we do women a disservice because this type of relationship often leaves women and their children abused and destitute. We have to discuss this issue all the way through.
Pretty sure the left are arguing that point... They dgaf shes a housewife they care about her being controlled and abused by her pos husband
I mean I don’t think “left vs right” is completely irrelevant when the only people you see saying this is an acceptable way to treat a woman are predominantly right wing.
@@wispisangyou see what you want to see. I’m “right-wing.” Most of the people I know are, and we would never be okay with this. We’re not all mindless clones of the crazy, radical right-wing fanatics that are the ones media gives notice to. Just like I’m sure you’re not a mindless clone of the crazy, radical left-wing fanatics.
As a child of a sahm who’s divorcing my Dad after 30+ years, growing up around a toxic environment where on the surface things are meant to look good but in reality they’re not did a number on me, and I feel for her kids.
Waiting for the update video in a few years when Ballerina’s Hubby gets his wifey upgrade and we get the tell all book deal. Devastating but not new. She was never taught or protected.
She didn’t want to date him. She told him no for six months. He should have backed off. Now she has to keep her beautiful pageant gowns in the garage because there is no room for her stuff. There are billions of people in the world, how many of them get to go to Juilliard? This is a rare accomplishment. Like 12 men and 12 women get in a year? To give it up for a rich man living his dream pretending to be a middle class rancher cowboy …. It’s so evil.
As someone going into the performance arts, I could not imagine sacrificing that for someone. I want to create music and love comes next, otherwise I’d feel like my life is not fulfilling. I’m so sad she was forced to give up everything she aspired to for this guy. Because JUILLIARD??? She must be INCREDIBLE. She must have worked her whole life for that. I hope she can someday return to her true love.
This is a hella scary situation, the husband is crazy rich, and powerful. Having enough power to switch seats to sit next to her on a flight. His father owning jet blue and etc. I would understand why she might not want to say too much and just let him interject and drive the narrative. If he is crazy enough to force her into a marriage, not even waiting a year, getting that seat, practically stalking her, and pressuring her to drop out of a college LIKE JUILLIARD. Can you just imagine what he would do to her if she tries to leave? Or if she says no? Along side with their faith making it harder for her to be more free, her having a family now, probably being broken by all this and a bunch of other factors we can and cannot see. The power and connections the husband has alone prob doesn’t help her situation either.
“I was a good ballerina” thats so sad 😭
0:12 As a french person, I find the juxtaposition of the Seine, with "full of sh*t" particularly hilarious. Thank you sir !
I don’t believe money is real, but vibes are
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Yeah😅 such a sad story. I feel that he could've waited... and I feel for her. I think she has a right to share her story... and she can be both a team wife and want to dance. My husband supported me and my passions. I've been able to have both... wish she could've too.
Even though she's actively profiting off a patriarchal system, when I saw that video with the apron I felt so deeply sorry for her, no one deserves to be dehumanised like that
More like the patriarchical system is profiting off the patriarchical system. Mormons have to pay 10% their income to the LDS church, which is why the LDS church funds so many of them.
the "my" in the "my egg apron" implies that either she has already purchased it and was waiting for its arrival, or she already had it and the husband just re-gifted it to her.
As a little girl (as early as 3 years old) I always dreamed of being the perfect stay at home mom to six kids and wife to some nice man… because Mormonism told me that would be my “highest calling and purpose.” It told me that I needed to have as many babies as I could. I changed my degree so so it would take less time for me to be able to get married. In Mormonism, if you’re not married by 22, what are you even doing in life? I wanted to homeschool all of my kids partially so I had control over what they were learning and partially because that was considered “the most righteous approach.” I wanted to cook everything from scratch and basically be super trad-wife-y because that’s what I’d been TAUGHT!
Thankfully, I’m 19. I got out soon enough that I still have a chance to live my life for me. Now I’m thinking about getting that masters I wanted. I’m considering becoming a therapist and having my own career. I want a cozy safe place with someone that I love who loves me, a cat, a dog, a couple of house plants, and a lot of books. We’ll see if we have kids, and if we do we’ll only have 1-2. I don’t want an especially large house (just enough space to meet our needs + maybe an office) but I would consider a small backyard. I want to cook more from scratch because it’s good for me. Not because it’s “what I’m supposed to do.” And I don’t want to cook literally everything from scratch anymore. I don’t want to homeschool my kids. This is likely the life I would have chosen if I’d never been Mormon at all. Compare the two. 🥲 Additionally, I don’t desire to be all dressed up around the house all the time and when I do dress up to stay home it’s to make me feel good about myself. I wear things I actually like instead of what’s “modest” now. Mormonism really messes up every bit of your life.
Edit: I’ve seen this happen to so many women in my life. I’ll preface this with I love my dad. My dad’s not the problem. Their religion is. My mom has two degrees and she was a fantastic seamstress and artist when I was little. She doesn’t sew or draw anymore. She runs but that’s about her only hobby. She gave up everything for her kids and she probably wouldn’t have had five if it hadn’t been for religious reasons. I could see her having maybe 3. We used to hang out with her friends and their kids all the time. She maybe has like three now. *Women in Mormonism give up their personalities, hobbies, gifts, friends, and careers for their children!*
This is beautifully written. I hope your mom rediscovers herself when she has less duties.
Hoping she flys away to New York to be a ballerina
After so many years and children? That dream is gone.
Yep. Unfortunately dance is something that if you don’t use it you lose it. Maybe if she had gotten to convert that barn into a dance studio like she wanted she’d have a shot butttt
She can always start dancing again if she is able to get away, but it'll never be at that level again.
Or a dance instructor studio for kids!
Hope she at least gets to go an a really nice vacation to Greece
Seems like he didn't sacrifice anything, while she gave up her entire life and future health. No seriously, if she can't get out of bed some mornings because she's that exhausted from taking care of 8 kids and a farm alone, she's heading to an early grave. And him not stepping in despite having the financial means to do so, means he's at least enabling that and at the worst, he knows and does not care. Stress and Burn out kills. She can obviously not juggle all of that and her own health, very few people in the world could, yet he acts as if he's not pushing her towards an early death and depriving their children of their mother.
Sorry, but the guy's a failure as a husband and a father. No mentally-healthy person would think this is okay for their partner.
what really bothers me is the fact that people's ideas of "traditional gender roles" is completely fucked up. my great grandpa lived during the wwII era and had a real example of what you could refer to as this, HOWEVER, unlike the modern day spoiled men of society (not all yall just some of us), instead of just sitting on the couch and not doing jack shit, he spent hours working his ass off to provide for his family and still helped with raising the kids and helping his wife when he was home. i know for a fact that if he saw these guys now he would slap the shit out of them.
As an abuse survivor, the way she was trained, trapped, and had her dreams stolen is so common amongst abuse victims. I see myself in her. I feel a lot of people vilified her for promoting the tradwife lifestyle, but she was both brainwashed and forced into it. If there's anything to learn from this situation, its that the tradwife lifestyle is a toxic illusion and NOT something to aspire to.
People forget that her husband quite literally stalked her after she rejected him multiple times, he called his rich little daddy that owns an airline and made *sure* he could sit next to her on her flight.
Bro made my day instantly better
His family is rich. He could buy 10 tickets to greece every year.
And Hire Nannies to lessen the burden of raising so many kids.
7:00 bro just made all of us imagine having a wholesome life with us only to snap us back I go reality in the creepiest way possible 😂
The Moe from the Simpsons lie detector gag was A+
I remember working with a girl who was pregnant and miserable. She was so nauseous all the time, and her husband wouldn’t let her take medicine. They were Russian.
He's literally the only one on the light side of the internet☠️
in an ideal world where anyone can choose whatever and leave it to choose smthn else whenever the original choice is starting to be harmful, i wouldnt be worried about ballerina farm. maybe she *is* happy, who knows? but i will still be worried for her and others like her.
As a practicing Mormon that escaped an abusive marriage, this is an unfortunate cultural thing that can develop, especially in "rich" families. The church DOES NOT condone the abuse of its women. And this woman is being abused. And you can also be abused and still want and love your children.
Your “church” was established by an abuser of women and rapist of little girls. It’s still very much being used by such men to perpetuate such cruelty against women and girls.
It does actually. Lots of people who have left the faith have attested to this that women are seen as and treated as less than.
As an ex-mormon, I actually stopped being mormon because as I became an adult, I started to scrutinize the sexist and racist aspects of the religion...
The church is perfectly clear on its position that the man is the head of the family and a woman's primary purpose in life is to raise children. They can say they don't condone abuse all they want, but they do create the perfect environment for abuse to flourish. This may be difficult to see from the inside, but that's what it looks like from the outside.
Is this the real life fairytale of Captain Bluebeard?
It breaks my heart.
She loved NYC and ballet, and he moved her to the countryside and took being a ballerina away from her. I hate him I hate him I hate him
@15:10 dude didn't switch seats on a plane. He called his daddy to put him on the plane, checked the manifest to see where she was sitting, moved whoever was sitting next to her, and had himself placed there instead. Thats WILD.
‘I was a good ballerina’ will be one of those lines that will gut punch me every time I hear it
Him to her: I pulled some strings.
Him, in reality: Daddy, please!
honestly the egg apron thing alone is heartbreaking because she doesn't even say "an egg apron" she says "my egg apron" which 100% sounds like her husband just put her own apron in a fucking box last second as a "present" instead of even getting her a new present. and he's literally a billionaire whose parents own fucking jet blue so nothing was even stopping him from get her at least like... a new dress or something???? greece tickets would have been nothing to this guy and he couldn't even be fucked to buy her something for her birthday its insane how little he cares about her.
Nobody I've seen mentions her phrasing. She said "Oh, **my** egg apron!" So.... the apron she already had? He wrapped an item she already had as a gift?
Maybe it was on her Amazon wishlist? So, something she wanted, and he knew she wanted, but in a practical way, like you want a new kettle or saucepan. Definitely not something you want as your main birthday present.
@@SR-zp4je quite possibly, which would be a mildly better outcome than something she already owned for a b-day. :(
I think they sell them on their online store? They have a shop where they sell candles meat boxes shirts etc
Apparently she had ordered it for herself. He took it off the porch and gave it to her as if it was a birthday gift he had bought
Not to be all "but what about the men", but Im happy you said that BOTH were victims of mormonism.
While a lot of men DO abuse the power that believe gives them over women, it feels weird to me that a lot of people IMMEDIATELY jumpt to "shes a victim of her husband".
tho her husband doesnt seem the greatest of dudes ngl. But mormonism is funky like that and does things with your outlook on life
Totally. It kinda reminds me of those MLM schemes, where the higher ups convince (often sad/lonely) people to join up, at which point they make like 3 dollars a year or lose thousands, no in-between. Obviously the newbies with no money are victims, but the people who convinced them to join are too, in a sense. They are essentially forced to put people under them to survive because of how much time they spend on the scam, they can’t even afford another income source. But at a certain point, they become predators too. Really it’s sad for everyone, and they all suffer under the manipulative, super-rich, company owners who are taking advantage of them. Coincidentally a lot of MLMers are also Mormon.
a lot of people don’t get that people, in this case men, can be victims themselves of religion and patriarchy and still subject other people (generally women) to abuse under the same belief system that abused them. victims of can and often do make more victims and it’s very sad
@@hello_world2767 yeah. hence the cycle of abuse. abusers are more often than not also victims. I dont think that should be an excuse or a free-for-all but it needs to be taken into account.
When I think of men as victims of Mormonism, I don't think the men with influence, and money are the best example.
Because he has all the power she doesn’t. Sure he’s a victim but now he’s just an ab*ser. You’re past doesn’t absolve you from current wrong doing when you’re torturing a woman
Thank you for mentioning mormonism, all these people just gloss over it but they don't understand how that cult influenced their beliefs, family dynamic and social standing
The BF saw "Stepford Wives" as a life manual and ran with it.
As someone who was raised in a mormon household (left the church many years ago) of 6 children, including me. Her parents wouldn't try to save her cuz thats what mormons want for their daughters. To be married and baby makers. It's so obvious this guy doesn't love her let alone see her as a person. Also I just know this guy doesn't accept no as an answer as he's proven himself in the past by stalking her. I remember my mom telling me stories of a friend of hers (mormon bride) who locked herself in the bathroom on her wedding night cuz she didn't want to be touched. My mom found the story funny, not scary 🙃
With all that money, they could totally afford her to follow her dreams and have a great family at the same time. I also dont think the kids would mind if the food is cooked by a nanny from time to time if they get a happy mother in return.
This is exactly why consent educators have been pushing to expand the discussion of consent past just sexual contexts. The fact that people are even trying to say that this was her choice is almost hilarious. Her choice was the first 100 times she said no to a date with him
When I was 21 I dropped out of International Studies at university because I didn't want to spend a year overseas on exchange, preferring to stay at home with my then boyfriend. I had been wanting to do exchange in France since I was 12, and had been learning French for almost 8 years. I had friends I was going to go with and planned to spend the year in Strasbourg, a beautiful town in Northern France with Germanic influences. It's the biggest regret of my life. I now realise I"ll probably never have the opportunity to do that. I ended up marrying the guy, but I still regret not doing the year and fulfilling my dream. Don't ever sacrifice your dream for a partner. If they don't understand or can't make it work, then they're not right for you.
I literally saw the light in her eyes die when she got the egg apron.
I’ve been an amateur dancer for 14 years now and if my husband suddenly hit his head and decided that I can’t pursue dance anymore I would be filing for divorce the next day. Giving up dance would feel like cutting off a limb. And I’m nowhere near Julliard level. I can’t imagine how it hurts to give up this one in a million perfect alignment of talent, hard work, and opportunity. They have all that money and she can’t even get herself a dance shed 😭
"I don't know this story" was scary, he is scary
This is icing on the cake. I cant imagine how many women may be in similar situations just not on social media. I have respect for religion so long as it doesn't harm people, so this is not a dig at mormonism as a WHOLE, but my heart truly aches for women who ARE trapped in relationships like this, who are seen as no more than birth givers and expected to wait hand and foot on children as though she is not a person herself. No dig at stay at home parents, this is not that, again. My heart hurts for people who are in situations JUST LIKE THIS where women may truly feel their only value is to give birth (again no shade to people who want to be mothers/parents, not who I'm talking about), and that they are only seen as people (barely) if they do x y and z. Religion can be so helpful and empowering in helping you live your life how YOU feel you should according to your religion. But this woman gave up EVERYTHING just to be treated as a birth machine and essentially work around the clock. I don't think people also realize how TRAUMATIC childbirth and pregnancy is for many people. It's not an easy feat to have ONE kid let alone EIGHT. This is scary. I hope she can get out of this and find new value in her life. I hope the kids turn out okay and get the therapy they need (and the mom).
Despite anyone's opinions about her life, you can't change the fact that her husband is abusive.
It's good that these conversations happen about the dangers of making yourself completely dependent on another person. That way people can at least be warned before making certain decision. Ultimately though I believe that if there are no threats of financial/societal ruin, violence or death, then simple pressure is not a sufficient reason to categorize someone as a full victim of another person. Hannah was not some helpless creature with no opportunities in life, being forced into this situation. She could've still not gone on a date with him, not married him, not given up dance, not have had so many children. She did however and while she might have been pressured to do those things, she was not forced. She either completely chose to do those things, or chose to go along with them. Yes, religious indoctrination can convince people to go against their best interests, but those people are still choosing to go along with that doctrine. My point is I see no reason to feel sorry for Hannah, because she chose this life. She might actually be quite happy with it, but maybe she regrets only specific choices in it. That's allowed without having to infantilize her to the extent that she's being framed as a full victim.
Turning what was supposed to be her dance studio into a goddamn classroom is heartbreaking. Both for the kids who don't get to go go school to socialize, and obviously for this poor woman who isn't allowed to be who she wants to be
This is going to end badly for Hannah. A lot of people forget how fast many people on the internet could catch the red flags on 7Passanger, Ace Family, and many other conservative/family/mormon creators until the scandals started to come.
The horniness in Daniel's younger self must have been unbearable
What the fuck,
I thought the “I read it in an article “ was unique to me and I thought I was a genius coming up with it
His father is such a shady Businessmann...
Fun facts there are some conditioners that you use before shampoo. It's called a reverse therapy, you apply conditioner first, don't wash it, then apply a shampoo on top of it and then wash it out. But they are specific
I remember when I was little, I didn’t want to have children. I was on the way home on the bus, I told the girl next to me I didn’t want to be a mom (not sure what brought up the conversation).
She told me that I HAD to be a mother. That God said so and it was my only purpose in life.
She was Mormon and two years older than me. I was somewhere in pre-k to 2nd grade.
One thing that worries me is that she seams to have no control at all, like, she can’t buy these tickets herself, sounds like she doesn’t have excess on the money. And like even if she had the money she couldn’t even get a nanny for the trip or go on the trip without without his permission. She is a grown adult they are both parents (even if she seams to do a lot more) THEY HAVE THE MONEY.
He didn’t even have the decency to give her a dance studio to practice ballet as a hobby or to relax
I am in a mormon faith family and I can’t wait to move out to be myself. I’m aro/ace and my family is very homophobic. My family wants me to have kids so when I say anything about it they get mad and I hate it I hate how controlling it feels to be in a church I feel gross about being who I am this is no hate to anyone who wants to be Mormon but that’s just me. Thank you for listening:)
Love the creepy pasta reference, that story threw me into an existential crisis
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Yo that "you're welcome" was like nah your wants suck get to work now I want an omelet.