being ableist be towards kids and then making fun of an IEP or 504 is horrible, and i have experienced it first hand. It isn't okay for anyone to do this.
Same. It sucks so much when i have something on my 504 that i NEED, like headphones, and teachers wont let me. Even though, im allowednto have them at any time for my 504. :/ or one time a teaceht made fun of me for taking my MEDS
@@NagitosimpUwU that's so messed up, also that teacher shouldn't be a teacher. the school system needs to know how to work better with 504s. the district nurse took me out of class to tell me that i'm doing well in my classes so i don’t need my 504, and i'm like huh did you just take away my mental disability and constant struggle?
@forever491 yeah, and apparently i "talked back" ( i did not) and she forced me to apologize and did a presentation about respecting your teacher???? Wth??? (My friend during his 6th where he had her asked if it was about me, he recorded it and she was like "nono! Oh no if courseweewww not") and we talked to the prinipal and nothing happend. She has like 300 reports but they font care. Also wth??? That nurse sucks. Public school teachers in general duck though. Ive had one teacher ladt yesr that genuinky cared about my mental wellbeing and respected my 504 fully
When I was younger, my school told me and my parents that I had a 504, never enforced it and lied about it’s existence for 5 years. I really should’ve taken them to court, because what they were doing was completely illegal
I grew up in the 90s. Had crap teachers who loved to drag their students. In lieu of an internet connection they would do it to my parents or other teachers in church. Smaller audience but just as cutting.
Back when I was in school in the 90s & early 2000s the teachers would openly call students stupid & dumb in class. They would make fun of kids for everything. The way they talked, walked, dressed, everything. But no one recorded anything though.
@@albtckl in my schools they did. In highschool I had this one teacher that would constantly bully a boy in class because he was fat and had a difficult to pronounce last name. This was just normal for us. I don't remember any parents coming to the schools to complain.
1:22 if someone takes a pic of you on an iPhone and you ask them to delete it, MAKE SURE to watch them not only delete it from their camera roll, but also from their recently deleted!!!!!
@@Ctcrxrzezwzqwxsecond graders in the 90s would too we just didn’t have social media accounts to post it to. When I was in 4th grade we were twerking to Sisqo’s Thong Song. Nothing has changed besides the cameras & internet. There is nothing new under the sun...
My take as someone who wants to be a teacher someday: -Teachers should be allowed to have a life outside of teaching. Yes, this includes "being an influencer." -Teachers SHOULD NOT record, photograph, or talk about their students (and especially not without their consent). If they are under the age of majority in their state/province/country, they should NOT be recorded, photographed, or spoken about PERIOD. College is an exception (though students should still give their permission to be recorded, photographed, or spoken about... I knew a professor who talked sh*t about her ex-students, full name and all, without their consent!) It is perfectly fine for teachers to be friendly with their students, but they are still NOT a friend. I don't know where I'd be today if it weren't for some of my high school teachers, because they were people I could talk to when I had nobody else to turn to. That's the kind of teacher I want to be someday. But there is indeed a line to be drawn! DO NOT BEFRIEND YOUR STUDENTS.
i had a teacher who was an influencer, and a pretty big one at that, and she was exactly like this. she never talked about her students, she never even talked about the fact that she was a teacher, all her posts were about activism. she was quite friendly with everyone, yet strong with her boundaries and stern when people were breaking the rules. she was one of the best teachers i ever had.
@@meestorpheesh She sounds lovely. I wish more of the teacher influencers were like that! Children's safety is of the utmost importance in the education field. There is an unfortunately high number of teachers who do not respect student privacy, it's wild!
I would throw in there that teachers shouldn’t interact with their students on social media. Say, if they find the teacher’s tik tok account and leave a comment. The teacher should not encourage this behavior and respond - I think that’s an immediate block.
@@DaydreamxDazedI’m a teacher and I totally believe this! I have a small following here on UA-cam, but do not disclose the school I work at or ever talk about my students. I don’t even really disclose my location (other than state). I know other teacher who will film tik Toks with their students and I find it soooo inappropriate. Not sure why admin won’t step in in situations like that.
I do not know why anyone would bother becoming a teacher only to belittle and bully your students. The teachers mocking their students on that podcast are reprehensible and pathetic. It isn't the flex that they think it is to sit around as a fully grown adult and mock children whom you are supposed to teach, shepherd, and protect. At least we can take comfort in the fact that we'll never be so desperate for superiority that we mock and degrade literal children.
I've been a teacher since 2011 and half the teachers are wonderful humans whose only goal is to help children. The other half are in it for the authority over someone, and honestly bullying a literal child is just pathetic. I've had to work with some of those and couldn't wait to escape to a better place.
I hate to say it, but my first teaching job was like being in high school all over again. I cannot begin to tell you how mean to each other some of the teachers were to each other. I can’t imagine how some of them treated their students. Sadly, we are now to a point in the us where a lot of states have lowered the requirements to become a teacher (as in many states you don’t even need any sort of basic training or teaching degree). It’s pretty scary out there
@@KindredKayenot surprised as a student I would witness the teachers gossiping for years till elementary to high school about each other and students too, often saying names and or enough details being said you can tell who it was about
I'm a student but I NEVER interact with teachers outside of school or too far away from my school environment. Obv I enjoy being around them as they're great educators, really understanding and kind but hell to the naw I just exchange pleasantries and go I don't wanna talk about my German homework ma'am gbye
Right? I have been a teacher in the past. I care about all those students obviously. I also know that to a lot of them, I was a role model they could look up to. Being a mentor figure in their life tho does not mean DMing them as “besties” or getting personal favors from them. It meant supporting them when they came up to me needing my support. And being a role model in the sense of being respectful and kind. While kids need people to take interest in their well-being and grades. They also absolutely need boundaries. They need to understand that any form of mentor/mentee dynamic brings in inherent power imbalances. A teacher doing shit like this only teaches them that boundaries aren’t a thing
I can confirm from both my parents being teachers, they talk shit about there students ALL THE TIME at home, but at school and ONLINE!? Imagine if that was your teacher!
Teaching is the worst job. When you do shitty things at school it is on you. People with office jobs also discuss their clients, collegues and bosses actions at home to vent their frustrations
YES my mom is a teacher and over the years i’ve heard pretty much everything that happens with her students. I could never imagine airing out those kids’ issues online and it’s a clear lack of maturity in those teachers.
As a TA who’s getting her credential, I’ve vented my frustrations with students at home but even on my worst days, I care too much about the child’s privacy and overall well-being to air their secrets out on such a huge platform. There’s probably a reason for their behavior and humiliating them will only make it worse.
“Fun” story- before school one day, my mom and I got into a heated argument over me forgetting my lunch. She kicks me out of the car and I head over to my first period psychology class. I put my phone away because the teacher had a STRICT policy against phones. Anyways, 30 minutes into class, someone charges up the ramp (it was one of those portables) and slams the door open… behold, there stands my mother angrily holding a Starbucks bag and says “I’m ___ mom, I need to speak to them” the teacher, confused and had just been interrupted, gestures to me. I go to my mom, and she slams the door behind me and starts screaming. “You are so ungrateful, I just got you lunch and you wouldn’t answer your phone to pick it up!” I say I couldn’t cause I’m in class but she wouldn’t hear it. I take my lunch and go back to class. When I go in, EVERYONE was staring…. The window had been open and everyone heard everything. The teacher breaks the silence and asks “so, you got your lunch?” I flail the Starbucks bag and sit down. No one laughs at this comedic masterpiece because they also confused about what had just happened. After class ends, I check my phone. 10 missed calls and 70+ missed text messages. I show my teacher and ask for special permission to check my phone just to keep my mother at bay. He is so wide eyed and shocked. He agreed. Anyways, that was 10 years ago and I can’t stop thinking about it.
gosh reminds me of my friends mum, left us alone in the house at 18 & 19 respectively and came home 30min later stark raving mad saying she almost called the fire department because she assumed we used the stove while she was away and was convinced we burned down the house. we had been watching tv, my friend left her phone on silent, 45+ missed calls and oh so many text messages 💀 I thought my mum reading my emails was bad but some people have it crazy fr
11:54 No. No sir. Be an adult and use your time when you get OFF WORK to take your hair down, like the rest of us. This can open up the floodgates to kids thinking small favours are ok leading to grooming. A small favour here, a small favour there, and next the adult is asking them to hang out after school in secluded areas. Hell to the naw!!
Absolutely and the fact that he had other videos stating that of course boys wouldn't want to do my hair, girls love this kind of stuff. So not only is he creepy but he's also sexist while deciding which gender gets to pull his hair down and facilitating grooming. It's disgusting and warped.
10:09 wrong. as a teacher myself, becoming too friendly with the kids means they start treating you like an older sibling/uncle/aunt and that leads to absolute chaos in the classroom since they treat you like a buddy who they hang out with and shoot sh*t with, not a figure of authority. doesn't matter that you can get them in trouble. trust me, i've been teaching 4 years and quickly learned my lesson to never become too cool in the eyes of kids.
If you’re a young teacher (and working with teens too) it’s even more important to have those boundaries since they already see you as closer to their age.
Now I understand your point and there is a different side to this. My old teacher was very kind and helpful, I see him as a friend due to his kindness and understanding and he’s a favorite out of the teachers, but that doesn’t mean I don’t respect him. I respect him as a teacher and an authoritative figure and I understand he makes the rules and I can’t be too comfortable with him because, he is here to teach me. He’s been there for everyone he’s been accepting of everyone, he’s been kind and supportive to everyone no matter how much of a bad kid they are. Anyway my point was you can be friends with a teacher without making the relationship weird and still respecting them.
@@Soggycheeseee there’s a difference between being a friend and being friendly. It’s good your teacher is kind to you, but the moment you start making online posts together, a line has been crossed
@@KindredKaye definitely. He knows his boundaries. He doesn’t have any social media besides his instagram in which he only has one photo of his cat lol
"HEY EVERYONE! TODAY THE KIDS ARE TAKING A VERY IMPORTANT TEST!!! OH MY GOD MRS PRINCESS THANK YOU FOR THE ONE CENT DONATION! HEY DANNY BE QUIET WE ARE TESTING?!!?!!!2!1!1!1!11!1!! 🗣️ " 👩🏫👩🏫👩🏫
These people clearly did not take THE FIRST Education class required in college. I mean THE FIRST ONE. INTRO. ALL of this behavior would be clearly painted as a BIG HUGE NO if they took that class. Shoutout professor Randall. This is NOT OKAY. There's something called rights and safety that we gotta go over here. BIG TIME!!!!
Sadly, a lot of states no longer require a teaching degree to become a teacher. I once worked at a school where only about 5 of the 30 teaching staff had a teaching degree
@@KindredKayeu go to private school? All the public schools near me require education degrees or a degree in their respective teaching field and the private, typically catholic schools, near me do not. Although I do live in the northeast usa where the education is typically much better than the rest of America.
@@bushydev2050 I’ve taught in the Midwest and the south. Both states I’ve taught in do not require a teaching degree anymore. I’ve heard New Jersey doesn’t either, but I don’t know if that’s true
@@bushydev2050 I’ve been doing some googling- looks like most states even on the east coast do not require a teaching license or certificate. (I personally do not consider an “emergency license” to be a real license. They are for people who do not have a background in teaching or education). Even New York allows an emergency license
Him getting students to fix his hair for him is exactly why this kind of behavior is not acceptable. Instead of going to a professional who would have charged him, he had a handful of students do his hair for him. He took advantage of his relationship with his students. I think it is crazy he doesn't see that a lot of his excuses are the same used by groomers. He might not be SAing those kids but he is paving the way for some other teacher to. Edit - I typed this out before watching the grown man cry over messages he got sent by minors that he has power over... I honestly feel like this dude is a creep, this is not ok.
while i agree w the kids doing his hair being a little odd, cuz its a service you typically pay for, lets not say hes paving the way for them to be SAd. That's a huge jump. Also you can care about people who you inherently have power over. I don't think crying over texts from students is the sign of being a creep. There's different kinds of bonds that are boundary crossing, but not sexual in nature.
@soloheroina intimate contact with boundary crossing inherently leads to sa. It’s literally the first step, to get your victim to accept you breaking down accepted boundaries, which is why setting them and respecting them is so important. They already built trust that’s why teachers, coach and clergy have a sacred job that shouldn’t be violated by crossing boundaries….
^and you must not know about black hair cus hair culture is different. It’s VERY intimate. The only people you would allow to do your hair are your mother, your partner or your closest friends. It is literally boundary crossing and weird to ask someone you aren’t very close to, like asking an acquaintance would be out of pocket and considered really rude so you need to have a really intimate relationship and imagine an opposite sex child rubbing your scalp and touching up on your hair? it’s literally intimate. You’re like inches from their face too idk i think you don’t get it…
The teachers talking crap about their students with IEPs hit me hard. I have a son with an IEP, and he already has low self-esteem because he's called stupid by his classmates. I can't imagine one of his teachers making fun of him in front of him and other students who know what that spelled.
As someone who’s grown up on one, id like to tell your son that in no way shape or form does he have one because he is “stupid”, but to give him the extra support that he might need due to the disability of any sort he has. I’m rooting for him, and I know he can do it! IEPs can be a mess sometimes with how the schools like to give you less and less, but they’re worth it! Your son is gonna go places!
Those teachers who said they get joy out of “knowing it won’t go well” when the parents find out really bothers me as you have no idea how the parents react. It could be an “no video games until you do your work” type ordeal or it can just be putting a child at risk if they have toxic/abusive parents. I _know_ they probably weren’t thinking about that but when you’re a teacher, you should be providing a safe space for children (they’re learning-they’re going to make mistakes) and to get joy from their parents finding out and potentially punishing them isn’t doing that
okay but why is he so excited about the kid having to go back home and deal with potential abuse? like wdym “this aren’t going to go well once they get to the car?” do they not realize that there are reasons why a child would keep something from their parents? you realize you could be putting them into an extremely dangerous situation
5:40 I have an iep because of my dyslexia and in my opinion using “barely qualified” is kinda stupid not everyone has too be fully unable to write or something of that nature to benefit from an iep
The teacher telling the child in front of his face they are dumb is horrific because this is what I went through in school. I’ve had severe learning disabilities since I was a child and was told many time that I was dumb and had no future. I ended up fine as I’m a neuroscience major and premed but my self esteem and those words affect me daily. If a child is not succeeding, look in the mirror and ask what you can do. I could go on and on about all the horrific stories I have about teachers but I’m not going to say those because of the few teachers I had that mean so much to me.
Taco was waiting his whole life for someone to ask him that question. He had that answer ready instantly! So glad he could finally speak his opinion. We love taco.
I think the most dangerous thing about the lack of boundaries, especially with the last example, is that while some may not mean harm to their students others definitely will. Normalizing any sort of relationship THAT close with one's students can open them up to the danger of being taken advantage of by a different teacher. This is already fairly easy to do because of the power imbalance, but introducing a lack of professional support where one or both parties are comfortable texting each other like friends or even touching each other that intimately is a HUGE problem.
Crazy how we went from prohibiting phone usage from students in classrooms to teachers abusing their power for social media clout. I’m convinced these teachers were the kids who screamed the faculty didn’t pay for their phone (knowing they didn’t as well) and they want the kids of today to have a “better experience” in classrooms than they did.
In reality, all students want would be teachers not screaming at students for answering family calls (especially if they have strict/controlling parents), not filming them for their tiktoks.
@@alyssapinon9670not really you’re just lucky. Both when I was in hs and when I worked in a hs students would straight up be making TikTok’s in the back of the room. Like it is a huge issue and they get very upset if you try to get them off their phones.
What’s the phone thing you’re talking about? In my old school teachers would literally snatch you phone even if it’s after school and then make you pay to get it back, stuff like that I think it’s completely reasonable to be upset at
6:26 This guy is INSANE. Becoming a teacher and shit talking your students While They're There? And claiming they won't understand anyway because they're stupid? That is disgusting. And all the other teachers just laughing along. Maybe this is a bit dramatic but if he admits to making fun of his students in front of their faces, and then further degrades them online (even though no names were named), he should be fired.
As someone with a 504, these aren't silly things. I literally could not focus in my classes because there were people behind me, so my 504 says I can sit in the back. I was allowed to leave class if I was having a panic attack. I was doing well in my classes because I had those resources. Also, a real life use of the Quadratic Equation is if you're a rocket scientest.
It also just generally isn't that hard of a formula to memorize or use to be honest. I don't see why it's considered to be "why would I ever need to know this" when it's just not that bad?
@@AddyOkay It's not a difficult one, but it is one of those things that's like, "why did we spend so much time on this?" I remember studying it in like 3 or 4 different math classes before graduating high school, so you'd think it'd be more significant. Algebra, I've used all the time for budgeting and for a few other things as well.
As someone who’s been on an IEP for Deafness my whole life, that pissed me off too. The reason why the student is doing well is because they have an IEP and support in place! I always sit in the front so I can hear and see better! If the teacher chooses to not sit me in the front due to alphabetical seating, I am still fine with the second or third row but it’s worse.
I used to teach, I taught people how to be certified Medical Assistants, so they were all adults, and there were still very strict rules against becomimg friends with or even appearing to be fraternizing with the students. A fellow teacher was fired for it, they were innocent, but it was the appearance of it that got them fired. If it's that strict with adults it should be stricter with minors.
Omg I'm so glad I graduated highschool in 2007 so there is almost no digital footprint that exists of me as a teenager... I was so depressed and am so much better now and am glad I don't have to know reminders of that sad time for me are floating around the internet forever. Poor kids.
I have ADHD and have an IEP. And shocker to these teachers here, students with disabilities are capable of having good grades and STILL needing support. Those IEPs are there for a reason. I once had a principal deny my 504 (hence the IEP) only on the basis that I had good test scores and grades. Nobody should be able to tell someone they don’t need a support plan.
So I have a 504 so I can wear headphones during class to help with noise sensitivity. I had a teacher who never let me wear them, would get mad at me for doodling (the one thing that calms me down) and would get annoyed if I stim. I’m autistic and what most would consider “low functioning” and when I get overstimulated I have severe panic attacks and get sick. She never let me go to the nurse when I had panic attacks and also got upset when I started missing a lot of school due to a traumatic event (which she knew about!) Teachers can be extremely ableist and it makes getting an education damn near impossible for kids who can’t learn in a normal school environment
texting a teacher is BIZARRE to me. extremely bizarre, i don't even know when/how you'd exchange numbers. the ONLY two teachers I've ever texted were my drama teacher in high school (i made the costumes for our shows and did a lot of work at home, so i'd need to check in with her about a lot of things) and my advisory teacher, who was also a family friend (when she asked me to make her halloween costume). that's... literally it. i can't imagine having full conversations with my teachers after school. how does that happen????
With the guy having his students take down his hair, what really gets me is he livestreamed it. Like, even if you put aside the weird power dynamics of the hair thing, livestreaming your students is so dangerous! He put them at such risk because if they happened to do or say something that shouldn't be online, there was no way he could edit it out. That man 100% should've lost his job for that alone.
bro i had a teacher go against my 504 for anxiety and i had a panic attack in class and started sobbing so i think i was more distracting than had i went to the nurse also your cat is so cute
the fact that ive actually witnessed the first half of the skit in the intro happened TWICE from two different students and the same teacher in highschool, 1 girls mum got in to a car crash and the other ones dad literally died but the teacher did not care. Edit: why THE FUCK WOUlD SOMEONE LIE ABOUT A CAR CRASH OR FAMILY MEMBER DIEING, NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND DOES THAT AS A JOKE
Well, you don’t know how often the teacher has had student pranking him about dead or hurt relatives. Sadly, many students do this nowadays and think it’s funny.
Hair teacher: that’s what grooming looks like. He gains their trust, makes them feel special and moves boundary lines. If/when he abuses a student, she won’t be able to come forward, because he is so popular that everyone will call her a liar.
As a teacher for 7 years, I have to say, thank you for putting into words what I’ve been trying to figure out about these teacher podcast and meme pages. BoredTeachers and Teachers off Duty pop up in my feeds now and again and I always felt weird about the clips. Now I can articulate how and why I dislike these teachers.
I remember in eighth grade I had boys in my class insisting that my teacher was their best friend, and she had to keep going, "No, I can't be friends with students!" It was kinda funny ngl
Idk, I’m a teacher who follows some teacher “influencers” that share stuff like cool tricks they’ve learned, engaging lessons they developed, jokes about saving every paper towel tube - stuff like that. Without ever featuring a single student. I think that’s fine.
I mean, adult-child friendships need way more boundaries than child-child or adult-adult, ya know? Just putting in my two cents' worth on the "can teachers be friends with students" question - probably, but this friendship needs to be very different and far more controlled than others. Friendly behaviour, chatting in class and if you happen to pass each other outside of class - yeah, okay, if you consider that friendship (which I probably would). But touching each other - even in an innocuous way, like doing hair) -, sharing personal information, meeting up outside of school hours, even just chatting about relationship problems? No way.
Unpopular opinion: Teachers who openly talk smack about their students on social media while sharing their name and the school they work at, even if they don't give the names of the students, should automatically be fired. In any other job, complaining about your boss or even co-workers online while exposing your name, place you work at, or face, can get you fired, so why is it suddenly okay when teachers talk badly about their students? Because they can use the, "I'm just spreading awareness." excuse? This double standard comes to show that we don't value the feelings of children the way we do for adults. Whether they talk about one student, their whole class, or the entire younger generation, sharing it on social media to millions shows really bad character and shows that this person is not safe around children or at the very least doesn't care about their feelings, and I don't understand how someone can be a good teacher while thinking that their students' feelings or privacy don't matter. They can keep their students' names unknown, but the teacher showing their face and name is enough for people to figure out where they work and who their students are, and even if no one finds out, it's still hurtful for kids to hear.
omg my teacher got fired from our school for being very harsh to the kids. she then went on tiktok to spew about how much she hates kids. weird how it came full circle 😂😂😂
I’m very baffled as to how so many child hating people end up working childcare. It isn’t the cushiest field of work, you need extra schooling, and if you hate kids, there are much easier jobs that require minimal to no child interaction. Are the summer vacations and pensions really worth it?
Teachers should have spaces to vent frustrations just like anyone should be able to have a space to vent their frustrations; HOWEVER, the frustrations and venting should NEVER be in a place where it could reach the students ears. Also, you can be friendly and banter with your students. You can be friends with your students, but as a teacher, I would recommend you keep it as "Maybe I'm YOUR best friend..." I've had teachers who considered her students her best friends and it got her in trouble because she started crossing the professional boundary. On the other hand, I've had teachers that a lot of the students considered their best friend, but she was very conscious of how she behaved with them, and it allowed for a very healthy relationship with proper boundaries. She's still a teacher I look up to to this day.
I mean true, but anyone who talks about disabled kids like that no matter if it's publicly or in secret is still a pos. Most of these teachers cause their own frustrations because they're heavily ableist, a kid isn't going to behave in the way you want if you constantly disrespect them 🤷 Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of valid frustrations teachers have, but these teachers online are rarely the ones with valid frustrations 😭
The whole “I know it won’t go well” when teachers talk shit about students in front of their parents is something i have seen go very left very fast in real time. At one of the last parent teacher conferences i went to pre pandemic i was waiting for my turn outside in the hall of the classroom with my mom. A kid who was notorious for skipping class and having bad grades had gone in with his dad before me, and this particular teacher (my French teacher, a teacher known to get into arguments with students) did not have a good reputation with him. They come out into the hall, my teacher bids goodbye to him and his dad and starts introducing herself to my mom. Suddenly we hear a loud ass slap and watch as this kid’s dad grabs him by the collar and says “we’re gonna talk about this at home.” He gets dragged by his dad down the hall, as we hear him make a weak effort to apologize. My teachers face went from smug to stunned very quickly. The worst part is that in my school district, exchanges like this were so common to see at parent teacher nights.
As a parent, I thought the tough teachers were a bit much. Nowadays all I think is at least they weren't filming my children and proselytizing to them.
I know teaching is a hard job, and that they're super understaffed and unsupported by school administration. But these types of teachers who rant about their students for clout make me roll my eyes each time. I was bullied by my teachers, so to me the image of them being "infallible" has never been true, but to bully your students on social media is a whole other level because of the reach.
A student will accidentally bump into me when walking down the hall and I’m like “am I going to get fired for this” 😭 idk how tf these teachers are still working
Educational records are protected are regulated by FERPA in America; to throw a hail mary as an instructor and talk about your students *publicly* is wild. Like of course people talk to their friends in private, but to do it in front of the world is such crazy disregard.
This is also a huge issue in the health care field. Nurses making videos /posts making fun of or mocking patients, as well as claiming their conditions are fake like different mental health conditions or COVID
Teachers judging a kids iep because there not doctors and don’t understand how some medical condition (like my own) aren’t visible at all time, is like judging a thief by not being able to see their gun 😂
I am extremely friendly towards my students and have even become friends to some after they turned of age, we hung out, got a couple beers and chatted about studies and life, and those students look up to me and see me as a trusted adult, but even while building a strong relationship with them, I have never put them at risk - something that all these teachers did. The use of their image to gather a following on social media simply saddens me.
as someone who worked in the public school system (as an admin, NOT a teacher, I will add) we had to constantly remind teachers to not take photos and videos of their students. Even their voices off screen can be detrimental to exposing their identity. We have kiddos who are in the foster care system, in the middle of custody battles, and in things like witness protection programs. we have to treat their records as if those kids do not exist. No photograph, no video, nothing. Some students aren’t even aware they are under this restriction. Anything that is public outside of the school grounds must show 0 record of this student existing in our school system. This puts their safety above all, but so many teachers never acknowledge this being such a common issue. I can’t even comprehend being comfortable with LIVE STREAMING your classroom
regarding the IEP stuff… i had one in my last two years of high school due to having a plethora of mental issues that caused me to not be able to focus on anything let alone school work and i had my bitchy english teacher state there’s “no way you need that (the IEP), you’re *so* smart”. like man i can be smart but have challenges?? hello?
As a teacher you NEVER take a picture of a kid or post about students online. If a teacher did the same thing the first one did in my district that teacher would’ve been fired within the hour.
I have adhd and autism and my school (advisors) really wanted me on an iep but my parents were ableist and didn’t believe I could have a mental disability. Teachers like this are the reason why I didn’t trust the adults around me.
i had an IEP as an honors student due to being a victim of a crime and having CPTSD at a young age - I wish some of my teachers had been kinder or more understanding- and that was PRE teachers on tiktok. to be fair, this was also at a school that failed a final senior year exam due to my skirt being 2cm too short for dresscode (2in above the knee, im 5'10 and it was 112F that day)
ive noticed that alot of the tiktok teachers (esp the ones who actually film their students) tend to be from the united states and I always find it wild bc I have friends in uni doing education at a highschool level and we're all like 19/20 and part of their degrees require them to do placement in high schools teaching/shadowing classes for kids who are sometimes even only a year apart if they end up shadowing a final year class. even though they are quite literally only a year apart and could very well be friend through any other means and it would be considered 100% ok, due to the safeguarding practices in my country it is not considered ok for them to follow my friends on social media. when I was in my final year of high school we were told by our mentor teachers who many of us had a fairly close bond with, that we could not follow them on social media until we got our final results which was like 2 months after our final classes because otherwise they could be disciplined and possibly lose their jobs. so I think it absolutely wild that teachers would be allowed to just post kids, on a PUBLIC social media account, who they teach. from a foreigners perspective it seems like a lack of safeguarding on the teacher and authoritative body's part
Little point towards the texting: I would never with my teachers, but in Italy for example, that is quite normal. Our Italian exchange students had a very close relationship with their teachers, having group chats with them and even exchanging gossip about love dramas or sending videos of them on parties etc.
The problem is that people (not just teachers) think their social media is like their living room . There are things that you can say to your friends in private, including venting about your job and being very provocative. You can't do it on social media where it is open for everyone to see
My favorite person at school was one of my teachers who had kids of his own and basically treated me like his own child. That being said, teachers shouldn't be acting like FRIENDS with their students and need to realize that they're incredibly important forces for a kid to know what is and isn't wrong. If that relationship was tainted by anyway, it would've affected how i am NOWADAYS as an adult.
Damn that guy is Devin Siebold, comedian and former high school teacher. Normally he is a pretty funny and chill person but he definitely doesn't mince words when it comes to underperforming students and parents who take advantage of teachers. He normally uses his platform to advocate for teachers' rights. Still, I can't believe he would say something like that on a podcast.
I'm a kid who has relied on a 504 to get through highschool, and I've had so many teachers tell me “we don't do that here” or just “other students don't need that so you don't either”. I'm legally allowed to have these accommodations.
I am a teacher in Canada. I think the only content teachers should be allowed to make is educational content like making a video lesson for their class to facilitate teaching and accessibility. Or maybe just advice for other teachers to share lesson ideas. We shouldn’t be showing our students or recording their voices at all. Also you shouldn’t be sharing things your students share with you. Information shared by students should be private as they are confiding in you. As long as what they share is not something that put them or others in harms way you should keep it to yourself. All of my coworkers and I have private social media so that our students and their parents cannot find us 😅
Also I feel like a lot of teachers are frustrated cause the school boards, and admin are making so many decisions when they haven’t taught in forever. They end up trying to mask problems or come up with solutions that are not sustainable for the long term. Instead of complaining about students though I think we should put the blame on the system which is making all our lives harder by just trying to get our students in and out of school as fast (and without problems that they have to report) as possible. It makes it harder to build good relationships with all our students and their parents when we have 30 students in a class and more is being added onto our plates that won’t even help our students.
dude i think it's good for teachers and students to be friends that's the best way of having a fun time in school. I do climbing in my freetime with my teacher
My A level Politics teacher was a really cool woman. We all wanted to be friends with her. But not only did she politely but firmly draw the boundary, she refused to tell us her married name so we couldn’t look her up or add her on Facebook. Contrast this to my GCSE English teacher, who not only added his students on FB but was rightly fired for sending female students inappropriate messages. You’re the adult, they’re the children. If you’re seeking affirmation from literal children, go.to.therapy.
If a child is struggling, there is most likely a learning disability preventing them from succeeding. IEPs are not just handed out unnecessarily, and they have guidelines that are universal across the board. There aren’t different criteria for different districts.
The student’s doctor has to sign off on and approve of the IEP (and doctors are usually the ones who propose the plan in the first place). They are absolutely not just handed out to anyone “struggling”
@@pansepot1490lol he’s right, there’s always going to be kids that have no disabilities and just have a hard time with school and keeping their grades up 🤷🏽♂️
This makes me glad that tiktok didn’t exist when I was a kid, UA-cam was just starting to get popular. If I saw this and knowing teachers were talking smack, let alone recording students… 1. I would’ve been jealous of the attention the other students got, even though the teacher is just using them (had an unhealthy home life) 2. I would’ve crushed! Ruined relationship of safety and trust and distrust in people in general (more than I already do) Fire these teachers!
As a newer teacher, its hard to find the boundary between becoming friendly with kids to let them know you care, and not becoming so friendly the kids dont see you as an authority figure. And you want to always be responsible and act in the kids best interest with that authority. Ive found that starting off pretending to be super strict and mean but explaining things clearly (NO you cant have your phone, BECAUSE its a distraction to you and others. NO you cant have airpods in, BECAUSE it could be a safety issue etc). Most kids tend to get it and I can be nicer later in the year but being the strict person first in order to give kids structure and know you care before you get to be more friendly has helped me so far. Hope more teachers put the kids first- high school happens once!
0:52 YOU MEAN YOU DON'T EVER USE IT??? D: I feel mistreated, decieved and a victim OF PURE LARCENY by non other than the Educational System. The betrayal.
Im not from North America, (and sorry for my bad grammar) but i think its a matter of culture. Here in Brazil the teacher-student interaction is really close, almost every time becoming not only a tutor figure but also a friend. We also call our teachers by their first name, its REALLY unusual calling someone by "mister", "sir" or something like that. In the end, i don't see any problem with said interaction, maybe because it's so rooted in my culture.
With the clip of him getting messages from students: do we know that they were texts? A lot of schools let kids directly message teachers through an official platform that can be reviewed by admin. And every school I've worked at has had official email addresses for teachers so that students/parents have a point of contact. So I'm HOPING that it wasn't regular texts that wouldn't be monitored That said, the whole situation was weird enough without it escalating to that
1. The first video, she says she's forwarding it to who needs to see it. HE says that's against his rights. SHE says he's violating everyone else's. Not hers for recording her back but EVERYONE else's. I don't know the full situation here but it sounds like she caught him doing something and is sending the video to his mom/admin/whoever is in charge of discipline. He's giving a one sided perspective of whatever the situation was. 2. The teachers off duty podcast is the high school popular clique of mean girls. They act like it, they talk like it, they are the plastics. But they are not talking about Ray with severe ADHD. They were talking about kids who barely needed to be on IEPs and use it as a crutch to do no work. Which is a legit problem. An IEP is a structure in place to help you overcome learning disabilities and help you GROW and often you watch students stagnate and regress BECAUSE of the way their IEPs are implemented. The way they talked about it absolutely sucked. Instead of drawing attention to it and having a nuanced conversation, they acted like their kids, and celebrated the "ooo I got them good" moment. But they're NOT a nuanced conversation podcast, they are a comedy podcast right? IDK. 3. Using the quadratic equation to solve for the teacher student best friend relationship was 😘. I hate the parental substitution theory. It's total bullshit. You hear it all the time, oh the kids just need a mommy. There's no mommy/daddy at home so you need to mother them. No. Teacher is not equal to mom, dad or best friend. You have a responsibility to treat all of them equally and you can't do that if one or more of them are your bestie/pseudo child. It eliminates the impartiality a teacher is supposed to have. It's nonsense. We need to stop having unrealistic expectations about teachers and their jobs. The job description is not become parent and provide to all students in need, it's not to be a counselor, there's an actual counselor for that, it is to teach reading, writing, whatever subject you are teaching to a certain standard. If the community starts requiring teachers to do that, just that and nothing else, you will eliminate a lot of the problems, including the weirdos who are in it to be best friends with their students. I had great teachers in high school who were friendly, supportive and provided grace when appropriate and still held firm to the bar they set for performance. They were not my best friends or parent substitutes, but they were exactly what I needed and provided the structure I needed to learn and grow. Aka they did their jobs.
I had an IEP in public school, but because my diagnosis was for something considered to not actually need an IEP - it was "just a formality" - i didnt get any supports. Flash forward 14 years from my diagnosis and it turns out i have severe cptsd in part resulting from how i was stigmatized and mistreated by the teachers and students around me. I used to watch some of these creators, primarily the ones advocating for queer rights, but i had to stop because some of the things they were saying and behaviours they were advertising made me feel sick. Promoting teachers' rights, queer rights, and minority rights is about all teachers should be doing on social media, not talking behind students' backs FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD TO SEE
I remember when i was held after school to catch up with my homework cause it was getting so bad, i was sitting at a desk in the main hall when over the loud speaker someone said "as soon as (my name) is done with his work send him to the front office" and the room i was sitting next to had most of my teachers in it and i heard every one of them laugh at the "done with home work" part. Edit: this is supposed to be just a funny story please don't think im angry
Hiii, I'm a teacher. You make excellent points in this video. Different boundaries exist for different grades, of course. For example, I've taught kindergarten and 1st and it is much more of a parent role. They want to hold your hand, and hug you, and all of that at 5 is very normal (though my male colleague teaching the same grade would never reciprocate hugs). Now I teach high school seniors, and it's obviously a different ball game. It is a delicate balance balance between maintaining good relationships without being too friendly. If you're too harsh, you lose them. If you're too nice, they walk all over you and the line gets blurred. I have not, nor will I ever, participate in a tiktok video with my students. I would also never shit talk them online, or in front of them or other students. This *should* be common sense, but apparently it isn't. I think the guy with the hair- the fact that he asked the kids made it weird for me. If the girls asked because they like doing hair I would think differently. Also, that he filmed it makes it more weird to me?? I had a Kinder who loved playing with my hair so I'd let her. I would nevvverr ASK a student to touch my hair.
when you start calling your teacher bestie i'm finding a trusted adult. get outta there
I had one and I always corrected her. 😅 and it became a joke... but I never ever did anything like these do...
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I also love your pfp!
when you start calling your teacher bestie i'm finding a trusted adult. get outta here
Me and one of my friends call my art teacher bestie ‘firstname’ as a joke (not when she’s around).. We hate her 😊
being ableist be towards kids and then making fun of an IEP or 504 is horrible, and i have experienced it first hand. It isn't okay for anyone to do this.
Same. It sucks so much when i have something on my 504 that i NEED, like headphones, and teachers wont let me. Even though, im allowednto have them at any time for my 504. :/ or one time a teaceht made fun of me for taking my MEDS
@@NagitosimpUwU that's so messed up, also that teacher shouldn't be a teacher. the school system needs to know how to work better with 504s. the district nurse took me out of class to tell me that i'm doing well in my classes so i don’t need my 504, and i'm like huh did you just take away my mental disability and constant struggle?
@forever491 yeah, and apparently i "talked back" ( i did not) and she forced me to apologize and did a presentation about respecting your teacher???? Wth??? (My friend during his 6th where he had her asked if it was about me, he recorded it and she was like "nono! Oh no if courseweewww not") and we talked to the prinipal and nothing happend. She has like 300 reports but they font care. Also wth??? That nurse sucks. Public school teachers in general duck though. Ive had one teacher ladt yesr that genuinky cared about my mental wellbeing and respected my 504 fully
When I was younger, my school told me and my parents that I had a 504, never enforced it and lied about it’s existence for 5 years. I really should’ve taken them to court, because what they were doing was completely illegal
@@forever491 you would think that a nurse would realize the 504 is probably the reason you're doing well lmao
Imagine scrolling on tiktok and all that pops up is your teacher doing a little dance and talking about their own students💀
I grew up in the 90s. Had crap teachers who loved to drag their students. In lieu of an internet connection they would do it to my parents or other teachers in church. Smaller audience but just as cutting.
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Imagine scrolling on TikTok and all that pops up is your teacher doing a little dance and talking about their own students💀
“Who barely qualify for an IEP”
If a child has an IEP, they need it and deserve to take full advantage of what it provides.
Also there’s no levels to who qualifies? If you have a diagnosis, you qualify, simple as
it takes years to even get an IEP as well.
"Who barely qualify for an IEP" If a child has an IEP, they need it and deserve to take full advantage of what it provides.
nah
I wish all kids could get more one on one support at school, so to dismiss a kid who’s likely ND is even more disgusting
its CRAZY to see a teacher saying that the favorite part was to talk smack about the kid in front of them
Back when I was in school in the 90s & early 2000s the teachers would openly call students stupid & dumb in class. They would make fun of kids for everything. The way they talked, walked, dressed, everything. But no one recorded anything though.
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Don’t worry guys teachers are still doing this 😁
@@amberlynnroberson1961I went to school in the 80s and 90s and never once did I hear a teacher call someone dumb or stupid in class.
@@albtckl in my schools they did. In highschool I had this one teacher that would constantly bully a boy in class because he was fat and had a difficult to pronounce last name. This was just normal for us. I don't remember any parents coming to the schools to complain.
1:22 if someone takes a pic of you on an iPhone and you ask them to delete it, MAKE SURE to watch them not only delete it from their camera roll, but also from their recently deleted!!!!!
This goes for any phone too, not just iphones, all aneroids (at least the ones I know of) have a recently deleted folder
Imagine your in second grade and your teacher starts doing the tyla dance 💀
Nope nope nopeity nope!
second graders these days would join in 💀
@@Ctcrxrzezwzqwxsecond graders in the 90s would too we just didn’t have social media accounts to post it to. When I was in 4th grade we were twerking to Sisqo’s Thong Song. Nothing has changed besides the cameras & internet. There is nothing new under the sun...
@@kay-collins my mom was like 20 in the 90s and had me alot later thats actually pretty intresting
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My take as someone who wants to be a teacher someday:
-Teachers should be allowed to have a life outside of teaching. Yes, this includes "being an influencer."
-Teachers SHOULD NOT record, photograph, or talk about their students (and especially not without their consent). If they are under the age of majority in their state/province/country, they should NOT be recorded, photographed, or spoken about PERIOD. College is an exception (though students should still give their permission to be recorded, photographed, or spoken about... I knew a professor who talked sh*t about her ex-students, full name and all, without their consent!)
It is perfectly fine for teachers to be friendly with their students, but they are still NOT a friend. I don't know where I'd be today if it weren't for some of my high school teachers, because they were people I could talk to when I had nobody else to turn to. That's the kind of teacher I want to be someday. But there is indeed a line to be drawn! DO NOT BEFRIEND YOUR STUDENTS.
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i had a teacher who was an influencer, and a pretty big one at that, and she was exactly like this. she never talked about her students, she never even talked about the fact that she was a teacher, all her posts were about activism. she was quite friendly with everyone, yet strong with her boundaries and stern when people were breaking the rules. she was one of the best teachers i ever had.
@@meestorpheesh She sounds lovely. I wish more of the teacher influencers were like that! Children's safety is of the utmost importance in the education field. There is an unfortunately high number of teachers who do not respect student privacy, it's wild!
I would throw in there that teachers shouldn’t interact with their students on social media. Say, if they find the teacher’s tik tok account and leave a comment. The teacher should not encourage this behavior and respond - I think that’s an immediate block.
@@DaydreamxDazedI’m a teacher and I totally believe this! I have a small following here on UA-cam, but do not disclose the school I work at or ever talk about my students. I don’t even really disclose my location (other than state). I know other teacher who will film tik Toks with their students and I find it soooo inappropriate. Not sure why admin won’t step in in situations like that.
I do not know why anyone would bother becoming a teacher only to belittle and bully your students. The teachers mocking their students on that podcast are reprehensible and pathetic. It isn't the flex that they think it is to sit around as a fully grown adult and mock children whom you are supposed to teach, shepherd, and protect. At least we can take comfort in the fact that we'll never be so desperate for superiority that we mock and degrade literal children.
I've been a teacher since 2011 and half the teachers are wonderful humans whose only goal is to help children. The other half are in it for the authority over someone, and honestly bullying a literal child is just pathetic. I've had to work with some of those and couldn't wait to escape to a better place.
Those teachers are the school bullies who somehow got hired to be a teacher
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I hate to say it, but my first teaching job was like being in high school all over again. I cannot begin to tell you how mean to each other some of the teachers were to each other. I can’t imagine how some of them treated their students. Sadly, we are now to a point in the us where a lot of states have lowered the requirements to become a teacher (as in many states you don’t even need any sort of basic training or teaching degree). It’s pretty scary out there
@@KindredKayenot surprised as a student I would witness the teachers gossiping for years till elementary to high school about each other and students too, often saying names and or enough details being said you can tell who it was about
As a teacher myself, I can't believe the lack of boundaries these teachers have. I like having my work life and personal life completely separate.
Yeah like I purposefully work in the next town over just so the chances of me running into a student during my free time are minimal
Yup. As a child educator in my 20s, I don’t like my students knowing about the misadventures I have outside of work.
A "friend" can't demand. If you have the best for your students at heart you have to demand from your students ...
I'm a student but I NEVER interact with teachers outside of school or too far away from my school environment. Obv I enjoy being around them as they're great educators, really understanding and kind but hell to the naw I just exchange pleasantries and go I don't wanna talk about my German homework ma'am gbye
Right? I have been a teacher in the past. I care about all those students obviously. I also know that to a lot of them, I was a role model they could look up to.
Being a mentor figure in their life tho does not mean DMing them as “besties” or getting personal favors from them. It meant supporting them when they came up to me needing my support. And being a role model in the sense of being respectful and kind.
While kids need people to take interest in their well-being and grades. They also absolutely need boundaries. They need to understand that any form of mentor/mentee dynamic brings in inherent power imbalances.
A teacher doing shit like this only teaches them that boundaries aren’t a thing
I can confirm from both my parents being teachers, they talk shit about there students ALL THE TIME at home, but at school and ONLINE!? Imagine if that was your teacher!
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Teaching is the worst job. When you do shitty things at school it is on you. People with office jobs also discuss their clients, collegues and bosses actions at home to vent their frustrations
YES my mom is a teacher and over the years i’ve heard pretty much everything that happens with her students. I could never imagine airing out those kids’ issues online and it’s a clear lack of maturity in those teachers.
Both parents are teachers and you still used the wrong there/their/they're
As a TA who’s getting her credential, I’ve vented my frustrations with students at home but even on my worst days, I care too much about the child’s privacy and overall well-being to air their secrets out on such a huge platform. There’s probably a reason for their behavior and humiliating them will only make it worse.
"Of course Father, i'm simply using my common sense" - Taco the cat
Taco is an absolute king for this
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“Fun” story- before school one day, my mom and I got into a heated argument over me forgetting my lunch. She kicks me out of the car and I head over to my first period psychology class. I put my phone away because the teacher had a STRICT policy against phones. Anyways, 30 minutes into class, someone charges up the ramp (it was one of those portables) and slams the door open… behold, there stands my mother angrily holding a Starbucks bag and says “I’m ___ mom, I need to speak to them” the teacher, confused and had just been interrupted, gestures to me. I go to my mom, and she slams the door behind me and starts screaming. “You are so ungrateful, I just got you lunch and you wouldn’t answer your phone to pick it up!” I say I couldn’t cause I’m in class but she wouldn’t hear it. I take my lunch and go back to class. When I go in, EVERYONE was staring…. The window had been open and everyone heard everything.
The teacher breaks the silence and asks “so, you got your lunch?” I flail the Starbucks bag and sit down. No one laughs at this comedic masterpiece because they also confused about what had just happened.
After class ends, I check my phone. 10 missed calls and 70+ missed text messages. I show my teacher and ask for special permission to check my phone just to keep my mother at bay. He is so wide eyed and shocked. He agreed.
Anyways, that was 10 years ago and I can’t stop thinking about it.
That is insane
Your mom has a few screws loose
@@Feynix4 my mother was an interesting person when I was growing up. We have a good relationship now and she has calmed down lol.
gosh reminds me of my friends mum, left us alone in the house at 18 & 19 respectively and came home 30min later stark raving mad saying she almost called the fire department because she assumed we used the stove while she was away and was convinced we burned down the house. we had been watching tv, my friend left her phone on silent, 45+ missed calls and oh so many text messages 💀 I thought my mum reading my emails was bad but some people have it crazy fr
Your moms insane
11:54 No. No sir. Be an adult and use your time when you get OFF WORK to take your hair down, like the rest of us. This can open up the floodgates to kids thinking small favours are ok leading to grooming. A small favour here, a small favour there, and next the adult is asking them to hang out after school in secluded areas. Hell to the naw!!
Absolutely and the fact that he had other videos stating that of course boys wouldn't want to do my hair, girls love this kind of stuff. So not only is he creepy but he's also sexist while deciding which gender gets to pull his hair down and facilitating grooming. It's disgusting and warped.
Gotta normalize the behavior first! 🤢
10:09 wrong. as a teacher myself, becoming too friendly with the kids means they start treating you like an older sibling/uncle/aunt and that leads to absolute chaos in the classroom since they treat you like a buddy who they hang out with and shoot sh*t with, not a figure of authority. doesn't matter that you can get them in trouble. trust me, i've been teaching 4 years and quickly learned my lesson to never become too cool in the eyes of kids.
Yes! There’s a huge difference between being respected by your students and being their “friend”.
If you’re a young teacher (and working with teens too) it’s even more important to have those boundaries since they already see you as closer to their age.
Now I understand your point and there is a different side to this. My old teacher was very kind and helpful, I see him as a friend due to his kindness and understanding and he’s a favorite out of the teachers, but that doesn’t mean I don’t respect him. I respect him as a teacher and an authoritative figure and I understand he makes the rules and I can’t be too comfortable with him because, he is here to teach me. He’s been there for everyone he’s been accepting of everyone, he’s been kind and supportive to everyone no matter how much of a bad kid they are. Anyway my point was you can be friends with a teacher without making the relationship weird and still respecting them.
@@Soggycheeseee there’s a difference between being a friend and being friendly. It’s good your teacher is kind to you, but the moment you start making online posts together, a line has been crossed
@@KindredKaye definitely. He knows his boundaries. He doesn’t have any social media besides his instagram in which he only has one photo of his cat lol
imagine being a 1st grader trying to learn math and yout teacher is on tiktok live
"HEY EVERYONE! TODAY THE KIDS ARE TAKING A VERY IMPORTANT TEST!!! OH MY GOD MRS PRINCESS THANK YOU FOR THE ONE CENT DONATION! HEY DANNY BE QUIET WE ARE TESTING?!!?!!!2!1!1!1!11!1!! 🗣️ " 👩🏫👩🏫👩🏫
These people clearly did not take THE FIRST Education class required in college. I mean THE FIRST ONE. INTRO. ALL of this behavior would be clearly painted as a BIG HUGE NO if they took that class. Shoutout professor Randall. This is NOT OKAY. There's something called rights and safety that we gotta go over here. BIG TIME!!!!
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Sadly, a lot of states no longer require a teaching degree to become a teacher. I once worked at a school where only about 5 of the 30 teaching staff had a teaching degree
@@KindredKayeu go to private school? All the public schools near me require education degrees or a degree in their respective teaching field and the private, typically catholic schools, near me do not. Although I do live in the northeast usa where the education is typically much better than the rest of America.
@@bushydev2050 I’ve taught in the Midwest and the south. Both states I’ve taught in do not require a teaching degree anymore. I’ve heard New Jersey doesn’t either, but I don’t know if that’s true
@@bushydev2050 I’ve been doing some googling- looks like most states even on the east coast do not require a teaching license or certificate. (I personally do not consider an “emergency license” to be a real license. They are for people who do not have a background in teaching or education). Even New York allows an emergency license
Him getting students to fix his hair for him is exactly why this kind of behavior is not acceptable. Instead of going to a professional who would have charged him, he had a handful of students do his hair for him. He took advantage of his relationship with his students. I think it is crazy he doesn't see that a lot of his excuses are the same used by groomers. He might not be SAing those kids but he is paving the way for some other teacher to.
Edit - I typed this out before watching the grown man cry over messages he got sent by minors that he has power over... I honestly feel like this dude is a creep, this is not ok.
Girls. They were all girls unbraiding his hair.
apparently before he got this job, he was a substitute at another school and tried to flirt with a 16 year old student.
while i agree w the kids doing his hair being a little odd, cuz its a service you typically pay for, lets not say hes paving the way for them to be SAd. That's a huge jump. Also you can care about people who you inherently have power over. I don't think crying over texts from students is the sign of being a creep. There's different kinds of bonds that are boundary crossing, but not sexual in nature.
@soloheroina intimate contact with boundary crossing inherently leads to sa. It’s literally the first step, to get your victim to accept you breaking down accepted boundaries, which is why setting them and respecting them is so important. They already built trust that’s why teachers, coach and clergy have a sacred job that shouldn’t be violated by crossing boundaries….
^and you must not know about black hair cus hair culture is different. It’s VERY intimate. The only people you would allow to do your hair are your mother, your partner or your closest friends. It is literally boundary crossing and weird to ask someone you aren’t very close to, like asking an acquaintance would be out of pocket and considered really rude so you need to have a really intimate relationship and imagine an opposite sex child rubbing your scalp and touching up on your hair? it’s literally intimate. You’re like inches from their face too idk i think you don’t get it…
The teachers talking crap about their students with IEPs hit me hard. I have a son with an IEP, and he already has low self-esteem because he's called stupid by his classmates. I can't imagine one of his teachers making fun of him in front of him and other students who know what that spelled.
These teachers would be the ones talking shit about all students they don't like tbf. But yeah, this was very insensitive and seems malicious
Check in with him frequently about how his teachers talk to him
As someone who’s grown up on one, id like to tell your son that in no way shape or form does he have one because he is “stupid”, but to give him the extra support that he might need due to the disability of any sort he has. I’m rooting for him, and I know he can do it! IEPs can be a mess sometimes with how the schools like to give you less and less, but they’re worth it! Your son is gonna go places!
Those teachers who said they get joy out of “knowing it won’t go well” when the parents find out really bothers me as you have no idea how the parents react.
It could be an “no video games until you do your work” type ordeal or it can just be putting a child at risk if they have toxic/abusive parents.
I _know_ they probably weren’t thinking about that but when you’re a teacher, you should be providing a safe space for children (they’re learning-they’re going to make mistakes) and to get joy from their parents finding out and potentially punishing them isn’t doing that
okay but why is he so excited about the kid having to go back home and deal with potential abuse? like wdym “this aren’t going to go well once they get to the car?” do they not realize that there are reasons why a child would keep something from their parents? you realize you could be putting them into an extremely dangerous situation
5:40 I have an iep because of my dyslexia and in my opinion using “barely qualified” is kinda stupid not everyone has too be fully unable to write or something of that nature to benefit from an iep
The reason why the kids do so well is because they have that support from an IEP! I would know as I have had one all my life!
The teacher telling the child in front of his face they are dumb is horrific because this is what I went through in school. I’ve had severe learning disabilities since I was a child and was told many time that I was dumb and had no future. I ended up fine as I’m a neuroscience major and premed but my self esteem and those words affect me daily. If a child is not succeeding, look in the mirror and ask what you can do. I could go on and on about all the horrific stories I have about teachers but I’m not going to say those because of the few teachers I had that mean so much to me.
Taco was waiting his whole life for someone to ask him that question. He had that answer ready instantly! So glad he could finally speak his opinion. We love taco.
Teachers can be _advocates_ for their students. But NOT ✨️besties✨️.
I think the most dangerous thing about the lack of boundaries, especially with the last example, is that while some may not mean harm to their students others definitely will. Normalizing any sort of relationship THAT close with one's students can open them up to the danger of being taken advantage of by a different teacher. This is already fairly easy to do because of the power imbalance, but introducing a lack of professional support where one or both parties are comfortable texting each other like friends or even touching each other that intimately is a HUGE problem.
Crazy how we went from prohibiting phone usage from students in classrooms to teachers abusing their power for social media clout. I’m convinced these teachers were the kids who screamed the faculty didn’t pay for their phone (knowing they didn’t as well) and they want the kids of today to have a “better experience” in classrooms than they did.
In reality, all students want would be teachers not screaming at students for answering family calls (especially if they have strict/controlling parents), not filming them for their tiktoks.
@@alyssapinon9670not really you’re just lucky. Both when I was in hs and when I worked in a hs students would straight up be making TikTok’s in the back of the room. Like it is a huge issue and they get very upset if you try to get them off their phones.
What’s the phone thing you’re talking about? In my old school teachers would literally snatch you phone even if it’s after school and then make you pay to get it back, stuff like that I think it’s completely reasonable to be upset at
6:26 This guy is INSANE. Becoming a teacher and shit talking your students While They're There? And claiming they won't understand anyway because they're stupid? That is disgusting. And all the other teachers just laughing along. Maybe this is a bit dramatic but if he admits to making fun of his students in front of their faces, and then further degrades them online (even though no names were named), he should be fired.
As someone with a 504, these aren't silly things. I literally could not focus in my classes because there were people behind me, so my 504 says I can sit in the back. I was allowed to leave class if I was having a panic attack. I was doing well in my classes because I had those resources.
Also, a real life use of the Quadratic Equation is if you're a rocket scientest.
I’m assuming Engineers also.
It also just generally isn't that hard of a formula to memorize or use to be honest. I don't see why it's considered to be "why would I ever need to know this" when it's just not that bad?
@@AddyOkay It's not a difficult one, but it is one of those things that's like, "why did we spend so much time on this?" I remember studying it in like 3 or 4 different math classes before graduating high school, so you'd think it'd be more significant. Algebra, I've used all the time for budgeting and for a few other things as well.
As someone who’s been on an IEP for Deafness my whole life, that pissed me off too. The reason why the student is doing well is because they have an IEP and support in place! I always sit in the front so I can hear and see better! If the teacher chooses to not sit me in the front due to alphabetical seating, I am still fine with the second or third row but it’s worse.
@@emiliereal1520 Exactly! We 'barely need it' because we have it, and it helps!
I used to teach, I taught people how to be certified Medical Assistants, so they were all adults, and there were still very strict rules against becomimg friends with or even appearing to be fraternizing with the students. A fellow teacher was fired for it, they were innocent, but it was the appearance of it that got them fired. If it's that strict with adults it should be stricter with minors.
Taco is so well spoken, this should be his channel.
Omg I'm so glad I graduated highschool in 2007 so there is almost no digital footprint that exists of me as a teenager... I was so depressed and am so much better now and am glad I don't have to know reminders of that sad time for me are floating around the internet forever. Poor kids.
I have ADHD and have an IEP. And shocker to these teachers here, students with disabilities are capable of having good grades and STILL needing support. Those IEPs are there for a reason. I once had a principal deny my 504 (hence the IEP) only on the basis that I had good test scores and grades. Nobody should be able to tell someone they don’t need a support plan.
Me trying to write down the math lesson Ray gave:
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So I have a 504 so I can wear headphones during class to help with noise sensitivity. I had a teacher who never let me wear them, would get mad at me for doodling (the one thing that calms me down) and would get annoyed if I stim. I’m autistic and what most would consider “low functioning” and when I get overstimulated I have severe panic attacks and get sick. She never let me go to the nurse when I had panic attacks and also got upset when I started missing a lot of school due to a traumatic event (which she knew about!)
Teachers can be extremely ableist and it makes getting an education damn near impossible for kids who can’t learn in a normal school environment
Dated a teacher that had to private and dress code her entire page in case any parents ever wandered on there
texting a teacher is BIZARRE to me. extremely bizarre, i don't even know when/how you'd exchange numbers. the ONLY two teachers I've ever texted were my drama teacher in high school (i made the costumes for our shows and did a lot of work at home, so i'd need to check in with her about a lot of things) and my advisory teacher, who was also a family friend (when she asked me to make her halloween costume). that's... literally it. i can't imagine having full conversations with my teachers after school. how does that happen????
With the guy having his students take down his hair, what really gets me is he livestreamed it. Like, even if you put aside the weird power dynamics of the hair thing, livestreaming your students is so dangerous! He put them at such risk because if they happened to do or say something that shouldn't be online, there was no way he could edit it out. That man 100% should've lost his job for that alone.
bro i had a teacher go against my 504 for anxiety and i had a panic attack in class and started sobbing so i think i was more distracting than had i went to the nurse also your cat is so cute
That’s an L on your teacher’s part. Hope you are doing better now and dealing with less ableist jerks.
the fact that ive actually witnessed the first half of the skit in the intro happened TWICE from two different students and the same teacher in highschool, 1 girls mum got in to a car crash and the other ones dad literally died but the teacher did not care.
Edit: why THE FUCK WOUlD SOMEONE LIE ABOUT A CAR CRASH OR FAMILY MEMBER DIEING, NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND DOES THAT AS A JOKE
Well, you don’t know how often the teacher has had student pranking him about dead or hurt relatives. Sadly, many students do this nowadays and think it’s funny.
@@teacherella1338 ok but the girl was literately balling her eyes out and the teacher didnt give a fuck, and this was years ago.
Hair teacher: that’s what grooming looks like. He gains their trust, makes them feel special and moves boundary lines.
If/when he abuses a student, she won’t be able to come forward, because he is so popular that everyone will call her a liar.
This happened to me :((
@@MoriOugaienjoyer I'm so sorry you had to go through that, you didn't deserve that. I hope you're healing 🫀💞🏞️
@@MoriOugaienjoyer I’m so sorry
I know you probably didnt mean to, but that first line turned out to be a pun lol 😂
@@wolfie9229 I thought this too ngl. I thought it was an intentional pun.
The quadratic formula bit was great lmao
Ikr lol. as soon as he said that the risk for the teacher would be greater, i knew where it was going 😂
As a teacher for 7 years, I have to say, thank you for putting into words what I’ve been trying to figure out about these teacher podcast and meme pages. BoredTeachers and Teachers off Duty pop up in my feeds now and again and I always felt weird about the clips. Now I can articulate how and why I dislike these teachers.
I remember in eighth grade I had boys in my class insisting that my teacher was their best friend, and she had to keep going, "No, I can't be friends with students!" It was kinda funny ngl
Simple answer: no
Complex answer?
@@inayah115nuh uh
@@inayah115still no
@@inayah115Nope nope nopeity nope!
Idk, I’m a teacher who follows some teacher “influencers” that share stuff like cool tricks they’ve learned, engaging lessons they developed, jokes about saving every paper towel tube - stuff like that. Without ever featuring a single student. I think that’s fine.
I mean, adult-child friendships need way more boundaries than child-child or adult-adult, ya know? Just putting in my two cents' worth on the "can teachers be friends with students" question - probably, but this friendship needs to be very different and far more controlled than others. Friendly behaviour, chatting in class and if you happen to pass each other outside of class - yeah, okay, if you consider that friendship (which I probably would). But touching each other - even in an innocuous way, like doing hair) -, sharing personal information, meeting up outside of school hours, even just chatting about relationship problems? No way.
Unpopular opinion: Teachers who openly talk smack about their students on social media while sharing their name and the school they work at, even if they don't give the names of the students, should automatically be fired. In any other job, complaining about your boss or even co-workers online while exposing your name, place you work at, or face, can get you fired, so why is it suddenly okay when teachers talk badly about their students? Because they can use the, "I'm just spreading awareness." excuse? This double standard comes to show that we don't value the feelings of children the way we do for adults.
Whether they talk about one student, their whole class, or the entire younger generation, sharing it on social media to millions shows really bad character and shows that this person is not safe around children or at the very least doesn't care about their feelings, and I don't understand how someone can be a good teacher while thinking that their students' feelings or privacy don't matter. They can keep their students' names unknown, but the teacher showing their face and name is enough for people to figure out where they work and who their students are, and even if no one finds out, it's still hurtful for kids to hear.
omg my teacher got fired from our school for being very harsh to the kids. she then went on tiktok to spew about how much she hates kids. weird how it came full circle 😂😂😂
I’m very baffled as to how so many child hating people end up working childcare. It isn’t the cushiest field of work, you need extra schooling, and if you hate kids, there are much easier jobs that require minimal to no child interaction. Are the summer vacations and pensions really worth it?
Teachers should have spaces to vent frustrations just like anyone should be able to have a space to vent their frustrations; HOWEVER, the frustrations and venting should NEVER be in a place where it could reach the students ears.
Also, you can be friendly and banter with your students. You can be friends with your students, but as a teacher, I would recommend you keep it as "Maybe I'm YOUR best friend..."
I've had teachers who considered her students her best friends and it got her in trouble because she started crossing the professional boundary. On the other hand, I've had teachers that a lot of the students considered their best friend, but she was very conscious of how she behaved with them, and it allowed for a very healthy relationship with proper boundaries. She's still a teacher I look up to to this day.
I mean true, but anyone who talks about disabled kids like that no matter if it's publicly or in secret is still a pos. Most of these teachers cause their own frustrations because they're heavily ableist, a kid isn't going to behave in the way you want if you constantly disrespect them 🤷
Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of valid frustrations teachers have, but these teachers online are rarely the ones with valid frustrations 😭
The whole “I know it won’t go well” when teachers talk shit about students in front of their parents is something i have seen go very left very fast in real time. At one of the last parent teacher conferences i went to pre pandemic i was waiting for my turn outside in the hall of the classroom with my mom. A kid who was notorious for skipping class and having bad grades had gone in with his dad before me, and this particular teacher (my French teacher, a teacher known to get into arguments with students) did not have a good reputation with him. They come out into the hall, my teacher bids goodbye to him and his dad and starts introducing herself to my mom. Suddenly we hear a loud ass slap and watch as this kid’s dad grabs him by the collar and says “we’re gonna talk about this at home.” He gets dragged by his dad down the hall, as we hear him make a weak effort to apologize. My teachers face went from smug to stunned very quickly. The worst part is that in my school district, exchanges like this were so common to see at parent teacher nights.
As a parent, I thought the tough teachers were a bit much. Nowadays all I think is at least they weren't filming my children and proselytizing to them.
I know teaching is a hard job, and that they're super understaffed and unsupported by school administration. But these types of teachers who rant about their students for clout make me roll my eyes each time.
I was bullied by my teachers, so to me the image of them being "infallible" has never been true, but to bully your students on social media is a whole other level because of the reach.
A student will accidentally bump into me when walking down the hall and I’m like “am I going to get fired for this” 😭 idk how tf these teachers are still working
Educational records are protected are regulated by FERPA in America; to throw a hail mary as an instructor and talk about your students *publicly* is wild. Like of course people talk to their friends in private, but to do it in front of the world is such crazy disregard.
This is also a huge issue in the health care field. Nurses making videos /posts making fun of or mocking patients, as well as claiming their conditions are fake like different mental health conditions or COVID
Ray we won't tolerate any Taco slander
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Ray really summoned all his Asian brain for that math lesson
Immediately, the answer is no.
Thank God I graduated. I could not handle my teacher tik tokking me.
Teachers judging a kids iep because there not doctors and don’t understand how some medical condition (like my own) aren’t visible at all time, is like judging a thief by not being able to see their gun 😂
The math section was the undisputed best part of the video, however, the section featuring taco was a close second.
I am extremely friendly towards my students and have even become friends to some after they turned of age, we hung out, got a couple beers and chatted about studies and life, and those students look up to me and see me as a trusted adult, but even while building a strong relationship with them, I have never put them at risk - something that all these teachers did. The use of their image to gather a following on social media simply saddens me.
the payoff on the quadratic formula joke was 10/10
as someone who worked in the public school system (as an admin, NOT a teacher, I will add) we had to constantly remind teachers to not take photos and videos of their students. Even their voices off screen can be detrimental to exposing their identity. We have kiddos who are in the foster care system, in the middle of custody battles, and in things like witness protection programs. we have to treat their records as if those kids do not exist. No photograph, no video, nothing. Some students aren’t even aware they are under this restriction. Anything that is public outside of the school grounds must show 0 record of this student existing in our school system. This puts their safety above all, but so many teachers never acknowledge this being such a common issue. I can’t even comprehend being comfortable with LIVE STREAMING your classroom
just based on the title, no, no they should not be (it depends on the kind of person they are online tho)
regarding the IEP stuff… i had one in my last two years of high school due to having a plethora of mental issues that caused me to not be able to focus on anything let alone school work and i had my bitchy english teacher state there’s “no way you need that (the IEP), you’re *so* smart”. like man i can be smart but have challenges?? hello?
Taco is so wise. I hope he finds all those toys he lost
As a teacher you NEVER take a picture of a kid or post about students online. If a teacher did the same thing the first one did in my district that teacher would’ve been fired within the hour.
Please continue allowing Taco to provide insightful, concise commentary in all future videos. He is also much cuter than his father 😻 7:00
I have adhd and autism and my school (advisors) really wanted me on an iep but my parents were ableist and didn’t believe I could have a mental disability. Teachers like this are the reason why I didn’t trust the adults around me.
i had an IEP as an honors student due to being a victim of a crime and having CPTSD at a young age - I wish some of my teachers had been kinder or more understanding- and that was PRE teachers on tiktok. to be fair, this was also at a school that failed a final senior year exam due to my skirt being 2cm too short for dresscode (2in above the knee, im 5'10 and it was 112F that day)
ive noticed that alot of the tiktok teachers (esp the ones who actually film their students) tend to be from the united states and I always find it wild bc I have friends in uni doing education at a highschool level and we're all like 19/20 and part of their degrees require them to do placement in high schools teaching/shadowing classes for kids who are sometimes even only a year apart if they end up shadowing a final year class. even though they are quite literally only a year apart and could very well be friend through any other means and it would be considered 100% ok, due to the safeguarding practices in my country it is not considered ok for them to follow my friends on social media. when I was in my final year of high school we were told by our mentor teachers who many of us had a fairly close bond with, that we could not follow them on social media until we got our final results which was like 2 months after our final classes because otherwise they could be disciplined and possibly lose their jobs. so I think it absolutely wild that teachers would be allowed to just post kids, on a PUBLIC social media account, who they teach. from a foreigners perspective it seems like a lack of safeguarding on the teacher and authoritative body's part
Little point towards the texting: I would never with my teachers, but in Italy for example, that is quite normal. Our Italian exchange students had a very close relationship with their teachers, having group chats with them and even exchanging gossip about love dramas or sending videos of them on parties etc.
Thank god I'm on the light side of the internet
The problem is that people (not just teachers) think their social media is like their living room . There are things that you can say to your friends in private, including venting about your job and being very provocative. You can't do it on social media where it is open for everyone to see
11:10 I can't believe you actually made a whole equation to make a quadratic formula joke
My favorite person at school was one of my teachers who had kids of his own and basically treated me like his own child. That being said, teachers shouldn't be acting like FRIENDS with their students and need to realize that they're incredibly important forces for a kid to know what is and isn't wrong. If that relationship was tainted by anyway, it would've affected how i am NOWADAYS as an adult.
the ableism in this video hurt me as an autistic individual and simply just a person with empathy.
Damn that guy is Devin Siebold, comedian and former high school teacher. Normally he is a pretty funny and chill person but he definitely doesn't mince words when it comes to underperforming students and parents who take advantage of teachers. He normally uses his platform to advocate for teachers' rights. Still, I can't believe he would say something like that on a podcast.
I'm a kid who has relied on a 504 to get through highschool, and I've had so many teachers tell me “we don't do that here” or just “other students don't need that so you don't either”. I'm legally allowed to have these accommodations.
I am a teacher in Canada. I think the only content teachers should be allowed to make is educational content like making a video lesson for their class to facilitate teaching and accessibility. Or maybe just advice for other teachers to share lesson ideas. We shouldn’t be showing our students or recording their voices at all. Also you shouldn’t be sharing things your students share with you. Information shared by students should be private as they are confiding in you. As long as what they share is not something that put them or others in harms way you should keep it to yourself. All of my coworkers and I have private social media so that our students and their parents cannot find us 😅
Also I feel like a lot of teachers are frustrated cause the school boards, and admin are making so many decisions when they haven’t taught in forever. They end up trying to mask problems or come up with solutions that are not sustainable for the long term. Instead of complaining about students though I think we should put the blame on the system which is making all our lives harder by just trying to get our students in and out of school as fast (and without problems that they have to report) as possible. It makes it harder to build good relationships with all our students and their parents when we have 30 students in a class and more is being added onto our plates that won’t even help our students.
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dude i think it's good for teachers and students to be friends that's the best way of having a fun time in school. I do climbing in my freetime with my teacher
It can become inappropriate easily. Be careful
My A level Politics teacher was a really cool woman. We all wanted to be friends with her. But not only did she politely but firmly draw the boundary, she refused to tell us her married name so we couldn’t look her up or add her on Facebook. Contrast this to my GCSE English teacher, who not only added his students on FB but was rightly fired for sending female students inappropriate messages.
You’re the adult, they’re the children. If you’re seeking affirmation from literal children, go.to.therapy.
Just an FYI…in some school districts, they use the term IEP for any kid who is struggling, not just those with disabilities. 🤷🏾♀️
If a child is struggling, there is most likely a learning disability preventing them from succeeding. IEPs are not just handed out unnecessarily, and they have guidelines that are universal across the board. There aren’t different criteria for different districts.
@@CarisiCreatesnah sometimes kids are just dumb
@@MagicMonkey96 you know it by personal experience?
The student’s doctor has to sign off on and approve of the IEP (and doctors are usually the ones who propose the plan in the first place). They are absolutely not just handed out to anyone “struggling”
@@pansepot1490lol he’s right, there’s always going to be kids that have no disabilities and just have a hard time with school and keeping their grades up 🤷🏽♂️
Your comedic timing is actually perfect
This makes me glad that tiktok didn’t exist when I was a kid, UA-cam was just starting to get popular. If I saw this and knowing teachers were talking smack, let alone recording students…
1. I would’ve been jealous of the attention the other students got, even though the teacher is just using them (had an unhealthy home life)
2. I would’ve crushed! Ruined relationship of safety and trust and distrust in people in general (more than I already do)
Fire these teachers!
As a newer teacher, its hard to find the boundary between becoming friendly with kids to let them know you care, and not becoming so friendly the kids dont see you as an authority figure. And you want to always be responsible and act in the kids best interest with that authority. Ive found that starting off pretending to be super strict and mean but explaining things clearly (NO you cant have your phone, BECAUSE its a distraction to you and others. NO you cant have airpods in, BECAUSE it could be a safety issue etc). Most kids tend to get it and I can be nicer later in the year but being the strict person first in order to give kids structure and know you care before you get to be more friendly has helped me so far. Hope more teachers put the kids first- high school happens once!
IMO there’s a clear difference between being a “trusted adult” and a “best friend”
You know it's a good day when Ray posts
Taco has such wise words
0:52 YOU MEAN YOU DON'T EVER USE IT??? D: I feel mistreated, decieved and a victim OF PURE LARCENY by non other than the Educational System. The betrayal.
IT'S TACO TIIIIIMMEEE! (and Taco is very smart)
Im not from North America, (and sorry for my bad grammar) but i think its a matter of culture. Here in Brazil the teacher-student interaction is really close, almost every time becoming not only a tutor figure but also a friend. We also call our teachers by their first name, its REALLY unusual calling someone by "mister", "sir" or something like that. In the end, i don't see any problem with said interaction, maybe because it's so rooted in my culture.
With the clip of him getting messages from students: do we know that they were texts? A lot of schools let kids directly message teachers through an official platform that can be reviewed by admin. And every school I've worked at has had official email addresses for teachers so that students/parents have a point of contact. So I'm HOPING that it wasn't regular texts that wouldn't be monitored
That said, the whole situation was weird enough without it escalating to that
1. The first video, she says she's forwarding it to who needs to see it. HE says that's against his rights. SHE says he's violating everyone else's. Not hers for recording her back but EVERYONE else's. I don't know the full situation here but it sounds like she caught him doing something and is sending the video to his mom/admin/whoever is in charge of discipline. He's giving a one sided perspective of whatever the situation was.
2. The teachers off duty podcast is the high school popular clique of mean girls. They act like it, they talk like it, they are the plastics. But they are not talking about Ray with severe ADHD. They were talking about kids who barely needed to be on IEPs and use it as a crutch to do no work. Which is a legit problem. An IEP is a structure in place to help you overcome learning disabilities and help you GROW and often you watch students stagnate and regress BECAUSE of the way their IEPs are implemented. The way they talked about it absolutely sucked. Instead of drawing attention to it and having a nuanced conversation, they acted like their kids, and celebrated the "ooo I got them good" moment. But they're NOT a nuanced conversation podcast, they are a comedy podcast right? IDK.
3. Using the quadratic equation to solve for the teacher student best friend relationship was 😘. I hate the parental substitution theory. It's total bullshit. You hear it all the time, oh the kids just need a mommy. There's no mommy/daddy at home so you need to mother them. No. Teacher is not equal to mom, dad or best friend. You have a responsibility to treat all of them equally and you can't do that if one or more of them are your bestie/pseudo child. It eliminates the impartiality a teacher is supposed to have. It's nonsense. We need to stop having unrealistic expectations about teachers and their jobs. The job description is not become parent and provide to all students in need, it's not to be a counselor, there's an actual counselor for that, it is to teach reading, writing, whatever subject you are teaching to a certain standard. If the community starts requiring teachers to do that, just that and nothing else, you will eliminate a lot of the problems, including the weirdos who are in it to be best friends with their students. I had great teachers in high school who were friendly, supportive and provided grace when appropriate and still held firm to the bar they set for performance. They were not my best friends or parent substitutes, but they were exactly what I needed and provided the structure I needed to learn and grow. Aka they did their jobs.
That full metal alchemist reference was pure gold😂
I had an IEP in public school, but because my diagnosis was for something considered to not actually need an IEP - it was "just a formality" - i didnt get any supports. Flash forward 14 years from my diagnosis and it turns out i have severe cptsd in part resulting from how i was stigmatized and mistreated by the teachers and students around me.
I used to watch some of these creators, primarily the ones advocating for queer rights, but i had to stop because some of the things they were saying and behaviours they were advertising made me feel sick. Promoting teachers' rights, queer rights, and minority rights is about all teachers should be doing on social media, not talking behind students' backs FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD TO SEE
I remember when i was held after school to catch up with my homework cause it was getting so bad, i was sitting at a desk in the main hall when over the loud speaker someone said "as soon as (my name) is done with his work send him to the front office" and the room i was sitting next to had most of my teachers in it and i heard every one of them laugh at the "done with home work" part.
Edit: this is supposed to be just a funny story please don't think im angry
Hiii, I'm a teacher. You make excellent points in this video. Different boundaries exist for different grades, of course. For example, I've taught kindergarten and 1st and it is much more of a parent role. They want to hold your hand, and hug you, and all of that at 5 is very normal (though my male colleague teaching the same grade would never reciprocate hugs). Now I teach high school seniors, and it's obviously a different ball game. It is a delicate balance balance between maintaining good relationships without being too friendly. If you're too harsh, you lose them. If you're too nice, they walk all over you and the line gets blurred. I have not, nor will I ever, participate in a tiktok video with my students. I would also never shit talk them online, or in front of them or other students. This *should* be common sense, but apparently it isn't. I think the guy with the hair- the fact that he asked the kids made it weird for me. If the girls asked because they like doing hair I would think differently. Also, that he filmed it makes it more weird to me?? I had a Kinder who loved playing with my hair so I'd let her. I would nevvverr ASK a student to touch my hair.
I’m a swim teacher. Your student rely on you to be kind and there for them without (at least obvious) judgement… these people are sickening.