2018 Honda Civic Si HFP (Honda Factory Performance) // Sharpening the Si...
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- I take the NEW 2018 Honda Civic SI HFP for one of the FIRST ROAD TESTS of this car! Honda took the regular Si and made a good middle ground between it and the Type R. One thing is for sure, Honda knows how to engineer a front wheel drive car..
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I absolutely love my 18 Si. The cornering capability is amazing. Like he said the LSD just works so good.
Yep I agree, I turn off my traction control & the stability control & I smash around corners! That LSD helps out so much 👍👍 check out the hasport rear motor mount. Damn near eliminates wheel hop & will make the side motor mounts last twice as long. Best mod $135
I think on of my most favorite thing about my civic is the super deep cup holder. Its great when you have a large drink and you need to shift.
Wtf
agree man. I was so bummed out when I couldn't fit my big blue water bottle in my audi, but now with my HFP SI I can!
I really think the coupe is the best looking Civic. Wish they made a Type R version with the widebody kit on it.
Agree
David Cheong my thoughts exactly!!!!
@Throttle House, DUDE you guys get full front LED on a manual stick in Canada?!?! In USA we get the crappy halogens and that is a complete dealbreaker to me. Why does Canada always get the top trims with manual tranmissions and here in us our is base or worse. Canada gets the beautiful Acura CSX with manual transmission + leather and all that jazz but nooooooo US gets shafted again, sorry done ranting~
And the bumper
I love the hatchback sport. I wish it had a SI variant.
Thomas, you nailed this review. I picked this car up two weeks ago and it is spot on. The rev hangs are annoying and so its the display interface. But other than that, this car is damn fun to drive.
Nice to hear from an owner. Glad we can agree on how it drives!
KTUNER helps out A LOT with that rev hang, the heavy flywheel is the other part in that rev hang equation. Totally agree, though, HATE the rev hang.
FlyinGato I thought my '13 Si was bad with rev hang, but then I drove the new Si and I could not believe how bad it was. Apparently it's for emissions. Still a sweet car.
i had ktuner on my car for 15,000 miles ended up with a bad misfire and warning lights on the dash just a warning not sure if the ktuner was to blame but if you get the ktuner id suggest you go to a tuner and have them custom tune your car.
FlyinGato indeed it does
Yes after flashing it with Ktuner, the drivability gets much much better.
Even hondata goes up to 24psi on dash it opens car up better
You nailed it with the statement that this is how the Type R should have looked. Sporty and not laughable. As for the SI, I just don't like the wheezy 1.5L in this. Not a sports car engine. Should have been a 2L
Dont agree. How is the type r laughable? It looks what it does. Nothing bad about it.
Agreed, the R is OTT. Then again once you are sitting inside the R, you are not seeing the styling, just left with amazing engine and handling. Just get someone to detail the car.
The Si should’ve gotten the same 2.0 liter in the Accord
AlienNinjaPuppy
Its ugly af
Do You guys realize this platform is amazing? Full bolt ons with flex fuel, a custom tune and the car runs 11.8 at 117 in a 1/4 . This 1.5 made a world record .. I'm American currency, for under 5 k in mods and under 30k in total for the car and mods you have a sleeper and race car that will smoke most v8s
Have a plain SI, I'm in love with it. But this is beautifulll
No si is plain brother
@@NEO_RKX I think he means plain like in it lacks a sporty look I also have a si
Rev hang is for emissions and better fuel economy, its written into the ecu and because of the dual mass flywheel which also helps new manual drivers. Part of the rev hang can be removed by tuning. And tuning is VERY rewarding on these engines
Si engine is same as the base engine, but it has some changes. Has completely different head work, sodium filled valves, and the impeller on the turbo is different. Also, fun fact, the adaptive dampers in the HFP are the same ones used in the Civic Type-R.
How do you know this?
Shame the US doesn’t get the LED headlights on the Si. Makes zero sense.
They also get imbedded Navigation
Very lame!
U.S. always gets screwed over. Halogens are unacceptable in this day in age.
2020 Si has LED headlights and sensing
Believe it or not this has to do with safety standards. A lot of cars in America suddenly have good headlights conveniently after the iihs finally started including headlight tests, like the rest of the world has been doing forever. Hence, we are only just now starting to get good lights.
Civic SI 2020 they fixed the volume knob and it’s such a good driving experience
I just got a 2019 american civic si. And it has the heat knob and other things that im not seeing in your vehicle.
I absolutely love my 2018 Civic Si.
Me too!
Type r looks great the way it is. Everything on the type r is functional so it doesnt look out of place for a reason.
Really, everything? Its got way too many fake vents.
@@severe28 not way too many. More like a few. Big ones are the two plastic parts on the front and rear bumper. Majority of the stuff is functional.
@@I.K.E.L.O.S most of the vents are fake, not functional. Thus, way too many.
Cinematography and editing in this video is on point
Thanks! Share it out!
No way HFP is worth the up-charge imo
I have seen no performance upgrade in the hfp.
I agree if you add up the wheels, front lip, side body kit, it does NOT equal another $6k! - If they added in a performance intake and exhaust, maybe even a Honda factory tune and bump it up another 20hp, then MAYBE the HFP bundle is worth it....
No performance upgrade?
Fucking garbage. This car will not sell good. People are already going to be putting performance mods on these cars that are going to be better than what Honda performance can do. Why does the manufacture release something like this with a huge price jump and no change to the motor.? That is the dumbest thing I’ve heard ever
@@chrisreilly4006 you guys are not watching correctly. same adaptive dampers as the type R
@@jacobmecrob5185 are you saying upgraded suspension is not a performance upgrade? lol
@10:55 I can confirm this car will rip around a track right off the bat! Didn't have HFP shocks but man does it feel good!!!
You have the regular si too ?
@@Stormtrooper-oc4vn Yessir I do.
Have a 17 si coupe and can gladly say that I wouldn't want to spend an extra 4k to just buy cosmetic looks and better handling. If there was more power, then yes maybe, but I'm fine with my current si. Can spend 2k to get around type r power and save money.
Just get hondata flashpro and you can buy that aero sideskirt from honda i believe, and if you cant theres probably some one ebay
Jordyn Hixson good for you men,nobody ask you 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
Pilot sport 4s lol those are 3000 tires with rims
^Check out prl's turbo upgrade kit. They claim 125hp jump for like 1k-2k price range. Their test mule had lots of thing stock, but one thing about these tuned modded civics is that they have one thing in common which is a clutch change. The clutch seems like the Achilles heels. I think it'll be okay in the 300-ish range cause if you think about it people have boosted those tiny D series motor in the past.
B.A. Chan Yea, that was the only issue is testing for that much hp without sacrificing reliability. Guess we can't all try to build a super car that isn't made to be super.
I dont know why so many people have problems with knob-less entertainment systems. You can solve your problem by just pressing the up and down button on your directional pad on the wheel. Most cars have a mute button on the wheel too.
Bolt On dude it’s funny because when you hit the volume options on the screen, there is a mute button at the bottom
Because it isn't as simple or precise as an old school knob. Thankfully Honda has listened and they're starting to put volume knobs back in to refreshed cars and new designs. Also I'm thankful other manufacturers (or none I know of) didnt follow this brief trend. I can just see the meeting where this no volume button thing was approved...*20 something designer to middle aged execs* "So this car will appeal to my generation, and we grew up using touchscreen devices and expect all functions to be touchscreen, we'll be the first and setting a trend all other makers will be jealous of!" *middle aged execs* "ok, go ahead and make a full touchscreen, we don't like cars that have too many buttons"
Fast forward 3 months after launch...20 something interior designer is brushing up his resume and shopping himself to other car companies.
Just got the 2020 Si sedan in pearl white and man this thing is a blast... Best bang for buck out there!!
man i've always wanted an Si and now i own a 2020 which i love
8th Gen FA5 for the win! I love my 18 Accord Sport as well. Try it and you’ll fall in love with it. Trust.
Now they need to drop the 2.0L engine into it and it'll be complete.
Not going to happen. For Marketing purposes regarding Type R
It'd be nice if the local assembly plant can produce something that doesn't force us to buy into overpriced Type-R. Great deal for Americans with a warmer climate, but a little one-sided for northern winters. I also suspect 2.0L will be much more comfortable in gridlock traffic (with 6mt), which is an issue if u live in Toronto. 1.5T is an efficent engine and can do well in casual track use, but I"ll always consider the 2.0L the engine ment for racing.
type rs are available for like 33k here in the states
Pr a 2.5 Nice.something new for an si
It’ll still be nice if they dropped a non-turbo version of the Type-R’s motor
I got the same color coupe 2019 year with HFP package for 31,000 U.S. dont care what anyone else says. Well worth it.
I’m curious how much more aggressive the dampening settings are.
@@HiMyNameIsJonathan I orginally purchased fhe car without HFP and didnt like the feel of the ride. I didnt feel like the car stuck to the ground during sharp turns. I also had to wait for the HFP kit to be shipped which took about 2 weeks. That gave me plenty of time to ride the car stock. So the dampening system is well worth it! This is the same damper system in the type R.
no shots of the back quarter panel... no talk of the rear wing... nothing about how it sounds... the interior... the boot. good stuff tho
Type R wasn't overdone -_- everything about it was about airflow and functionality if Type R look like this no way it would make all the noise and record lap time and everything else been a track beast for his caliber, everyone has their opinion, respect that but mine is on the side that looks great the way it looks for the Type R
What about the fake air ducts on the body? The overdesigned wing? The type r is a great car but it was most certainly overdesigned
that sound a lot like a 2018 Subaru WRX STI - big wing , fake air duck. (not fake vent actually just for look, cut some hole on them it would bounce all over the place inside that hole and push that would kill most of airflow that channeling air curve around ) Honda engineer know what they're doing and what their designing and how they assemble thing, to claim FWD top record on that NURB track and multiple award winning plus car of the year. ( not over designed ( my opinion not less but also not too much ) but very well track design as well as street comfort design, indeed it is a super great car super great seat as well
Hideous
VISION0STUDIO that nurburgring time was falsified because of weight reduction and not using factory tires and I never said I liked Subarus so idk where that came from, also I never said I didn't like the type r I just said it was overdesigned. If you claim everyone else wrong usually you are the one who is wrong. You can like the type r all you want but you have to concede that at least some part of it is overdesigned.
VISION0STUDIO nah, that thing is fugly as hell and fun daily driver doesn't need all the supposedly functional aero.
Woah that HFP decal on the windshield, is that factory installed?
@YvngBryce idk man, I want that decal badly. Cant find it anywhere on the web or even a part number for that. That decal isn’t in HFP Kit either. So idk
Need that part number for the windshield banner, looks sick.
YOOOOO!!! stop complaining about the infotainment system... Drive it for three weeks and it's perfect. Volume slider and steering wheel volume controls = instant, quick volume adjustments. And, climate control button = instant temperature adjustments to the exact temperature you want. Aside from that, great video (Y)
The reason you get rev hang is because Honda put a slightly heavier than it should Flywheel in those things to make them easier to drive (that's why the clutch operation is so smooth and starting from a dead stop smoothly is so easy in modern cars) and it's also better for fuel economy...if you swap it for a race flywheel i tell you rev hang will be gone.
I’m heading back to the dealership today to sign for my 2018 civic coupe Si and as much as i loved this review, i cant say that it really pushed me to plug for the extra cost of the HFP. Nice functional upgrade, but i don’t feel like I’m missing out too much with the Si.
Go check out the Acura ILX. It's amazing! I got the A-Spec package and am really happy. 2.4L VTEC N/A with 201 HP. It's got a 8 speed dual clutch with a torque converter. It's faster than the SI and has way more features!
you're not missing out. waste of money. if you had 4k in cash you can literally get all the bolt ons there is out there and have an si that can pull on the type R.
It’s been confirmed, I’ll be collecting my Red Si coupe on Monday. Happy days.
Jonny O this weekend is gonna be like a 2 day Christmas eve, I'm so excited 😀
Jonny O I will have to look into that, I usually clay bar and then wax and polish my paintwork, it worked a treat on my 17 civic sadan in that lovely burgundy night pearl.
The car has issues when on a small track, the brunt of the engine is during boost. So low rpm tight turns you experience poor acceleration out of the corner. I have an si and love it but there’s room for improvement.
I just bought this exact car yesterday in Canada and it’s impressive. Coming from the 2013 si coupe I’m not used to the turbo and stiffness yet but it’s awesome. One thing I don’t like is the info center not being angled towards the driver That’s weird.
So $5k gets you the HFP bodykit, dampers, wheels, and tires? Not a single drivetrain performance mod, but the price is not absurd. I think it's funny that the Civic shares the same dash as the new CRV. (Yes, I know they ride on the same platform. The new Accord is also built on the Civic platform as well, but different dash.)
same engines and transmissions too.
Honda is all civic, the crv and accords are civics,
saves honda alot of money but cheapens its image, and variety.
Well HFP gets the type r suspension too
FINALLY, someone was able to review the HFP Package on a 10th Gen Civic Si. Been Wondering how that New ADS felt. Awesome Review, Subbed.
Tommie From RBHonda there's like 40 different reviews
For the HFP? This is the best one on UA-cam where the Reviewer actually Test drives the new ADS. Other than that HondaPro has a short video on it.
HFP gets forgotten about because who would spend that much extra money when you’re basically getting up to type r price?
Me
I’m that stupid I bought an 2018 HFP 5 months ago
I find it the case with the regular si without the Honda performance package. I wish it had the turbo VTEC... but 3800 is where the 2017 shines imo. It sticks to the asphalt in a crazy way. Hate the clutch though. I felt the pedal placement was bad and I need the aftrmarket relocation plate to put it in the right place for heel toe. Rev hang is awful. Hondahack is a lifesaver but doesn't get around the climate control crap. It's annoying to not have physical controls. The 2017 is a lot of fun to drive but always leaves me wanting to upgrade. Mainly with the Hondata, etc to push it a little more.
My gripe is that the vehicle should have already come with the upgraded dampener for that price. This is Honda being overly conservative and forgetting the Si crowd in the wake of the Type R.
J Wong the upgraded dampers are worse. Trust me.
@@Outcastiid for the hfp??
@@Stormtrooper-oc4vn yeah. 100%
@@Outcastiid oh ok is it less comfortable or just not too difference over the regular ones.
In some of the videos I've seen between the Elantra sport vs the Civic Si on an autocross track, both vehicles finished very close. It was usually 50/50 on who won.
I want that but in red. Make it about 2 inches lower with aftermarket gunmetal rims and it's a GO!
I've been in the market for one of these and was wondering what type of fuel you put in it. I know the owner's manual states that the car should receive premium, but can it take regular? Furthermore, I think the car has a knock sensor that changes the ignition timing caused by the difference in the fuel quality. Still, I would like to eliminate knocking altogether to preserve the engine.
You need Ktuner with this car . It is so unpowered , mine make 260hp and 250lb-tq now with a custom tune ! No more turbo lag and revhang , the turbo want to spool even at 1500rpm , its so much fun to drive .
Really? Aside from the tune can everything else stay stock?
Looks = Amazing
Power = Lacking
Value = Just by the Type R!
buy?
That red trim looks terrible in the front. Makes the car look cheap and stupid
Yea considering used ones are now 32-30 k now, it would really be a no brainer to just get an R
I just bought one, same color and model. I want this package!
Congratulations how are you enjoying your car?
@@honda116969 I love the car, compared to my old 2008 Honda Fit sport that i used to drive around. Could use some minor upgrades to make the drive more enjoyable
@@tacticaltacoguy562 602-326-6969 George give me a call sometime I have the 2019 SI I have a couple modifications that helped out a lot Ktuner tuning, exhaust & drop in k&n air filter + rear motor mount.
the audio work for the video is top notch. how did you guys catch the exhaust note so well?
Trial and error with mic placement. Every car has a location that isn’t effected by wind. You just have to find it
where is it on the SI :)
It also has different headlights
Volume button on steering wheel is touch. You can swipe up and down to increase or decrease volume for a faster adjustment.
The lights are the same. In Canada, LED headlights on the Si are standard
As an owner of a 17 civic si. I highly doubt the $4k increase for HPF is at all worth it.
Hpf never worth that much money.... is has been like that lol you know better...
they look good and maybe increase the performance a little... but never worth 4k
Same here I have an 18 and I don't think the upgrade is worth it
Those HFP wheels are heavier than stock. No thanks!
i have an 18 si and I agree. its the same i am calling BS on the ADS i think they're the same. i don't care for the side skirts and lip but i do like the floor mats
I agree that’s a lot of money to ask. For things I can just go and grab aftermarket
This is a very nice car, and would be a great option if not for the price. For another 5 grand you are in a Type R, and I'm not even going to get into the benefits as they are too numerous. The new Veloster N will be in this price range as well, and it will blow this out of the water.
So wait... The package comes with different shocks but the same springs as the regular Si?
I may come with stiffer springs too but it is the same normal and sport performance on the type r.
I'd love it to have the type R motor ( even with slightly less power 250 hp) 8 speed automatic and super handling awd. Oh yeah and leather. Put an Acura badge on it !
Accord?
Can you get the HFP Package installed from the mfr? The dealer I'm working with wants to charge 3k for labor to install the full HFP package.
3k for labor sounds like they asking too much
That was great!! Thanks Throttle House!!!!!
No problem. Don’t forget to sub. Lots more coming!
is the 2018 si based off the touring civic now? cuz i noticed that the headlight changed to look more like the touring version.
This price seems to bring it too close to the GTI Autobahn.
If you're cross-shopping them @ ~30k the GTI wins on performance, but the base GTI is missing so many features that you can make an argument for the SI (better headlights, premium sound, etc). But when you bump the Si price to the level of the GTI Autobahn, you lose the benefit of having more features so unless you bridge the performance gap, it seems like a bad deal.
George K the Si still beats the Civic on track and they're super close in acceleration. In the states the Civic is 24,995 and the GTI is about 30. I know my car.
Zach Collins did you mean the Si beats the GTI (I'm guessing that's what you meant since it's obvious that the Si beats the Civic)? I don't think that's true from most videos I've seen. You can find a lot of videos online running both around the track and the GTI if consistently faster. Here's an example ua-cam.com/video/XLq0WeOelSo/v-deo.html
where is james
People dog this new si but yet it’s the fastest si stock best handling and best gas mileage hondata opens the car up a lot more 18 psi to 24 psi can take off rev hang and add rev limiter and so much more better best sounding straight piped to add intake sounds like you have a blow off valve for the turbo
Save the dough and buy a regular Civic Si. If you want more performance, buy a proper Civic Type R, forget the hfp appearance package.
A part of me does agree that if the Type R looked a bit more tame like this car does it would’ve looked better. A Civic Si Coupe reminds me of an Audi TTS coupe in terms of styling
Bruh the hfp is 100% worth it. The type r dampers (normal and sport) are worth it alone imo over the lifetime of the car it’s no question. The 19 inch wheels are dope too. Don’t care too much for the red mats I’d replace them with the stock black ones. I’d also color match the front lip and remove the hfp badges. I own the 18 black sedan.
I spent a little bit of extra $$ and went for the accord 2.0l T manual, sounds better, better interior and faster of course. But great review as always.
You forgot to mention HEAVY. Weighs as much as a Subaru STI with 50 less hp.
If you want better track performance thou the regular si is muchhhh better and faster.
Was the opening scene shot at church of our Lady in Guelph Ontario? I'm pretty sure I saw the exact same car parked outside stoneroad mall.
Good eye ;)
Really considering this along with an Elantra Sport. Plan on modding but am new to it. How important is an LSD, since the ES doesn’t have one? Does it help when more power is added (via ecu tune)?
100% it helps. Makes a huge diff. Especially with more power
My ideal Si= 10th gen coupe in blue, with a fully built k24 😍.
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test drove one a week ago and being an S2000 owner, I agree that the clutch was too soft (maybe they made it that way for female drivers). The Car seems to pull just fine, even in 3rd gear. BUT! for $4000 more, the should have increased the horsepower another 20. My honest opinion would be worth around $2000 more, but not the 4000.
That’s true lol the Type R is just way too much, gaudy in my opinion, I always thought they should have just put a detuned Type R engine on this car because it looks so much better, only problem is why are Si’s still making 200 hp? really? 250 would have been excellent
Nice Si HFP upgrade but way over priced at $36 000, at Autotrader in Oct. 2018, you can get a used Type R for only $39 000 !
I got a 2019 civic si coupe with hfp kit included for 31,000 U.S.
Honestly when I weigh the pros and cons I’d probably buy a Civic Type R which is 36k brand new. I wouldn’t spend 36k for an Si. I’d just buy a regular 1 and tune it myself.
Man where can I get that HFP windshield decal.
HFP are parts they add at the dealership.. It started life as a basic si..
Looks way better than the Type R wish it had the Type R motor in it
Great review. Absolutely fantastic. I would consider the rev hang to be a bit more than “a little” but I absolutely HATE rev hang. I’m glad you mentioned that- no others I’ve watched that I can think of have mentioned it, and that’s what’s holding me back from buying one.
This generation of civic would have looked so good, especially the coupe. If it wasn't for that unsatisfying rear end bumper area
Why would you spend that much on a si when with a few mods you can make a huge difference in this car
Simple tune....
You get rid of the rev hang
More power etc
Oh and you upgrade the clutch and flywheel you cam really put down the power
Anyone with a problem about the type R is a sour oldhead don’t disrespect the greatness of the type R
1:34 i love how the car stand quite low from the factory suspension settings...this must handle very well...
And i agree that the Type R should've been a coupe and not a station wagon.
Man...this 1.5L turbo in an 8th gen would be fun
no way the type r looks like this would be crap imo. but for si yep thats a nice sports package.
After watching the review, I REALLY want to get Pilot sport 4s on my regular 17 si....
About the rev hang. Have you tried slightly changing the shifting technique where just a split second before you press the clutch in, let off on the throttle rather than pushing them at the same time. I've read online that this may help certain cars , And It's something I kind of adapted to doing while driving my car for a few months now..I'm not sure if its actually helping but my 2-3 gear change is pretty smooth under 6 to 7 tenths driving. 1-2 is still a bit rough given the drastic ratio difference
To me, by doing this it feels as if that "hang" is gone, and it drops immediately when the clutch is in, but it still drops relatively slowly probably because of the dual mass flywheel.
I personally hate rev-hang, and I hear it's mostly for emissions with these turbocharged cars limiting oil vaporization and being burned. It pretty much means rev-hang is hear to stay , but was wondering if you can verify slight changes to driving that could help.
I tried lots of stuff. Honestly it’s not too bad in this car. Others are much much worse
Throttle House probably just a tuning issue
Just get a Ktuner to remove the RevHang
So much drama regarding rev hangs with the Turbo. With base LX, 10/10 results in a smooth shift. No 2nd guessing while shifting at redline. However, the engine seems like it needs to rev out an additional 300rpm or so. It hits that redline too easily.
Just a small update on the revhang. It is definitely based on engine load. It was pretty hot in Ontario the past couple of weeks and starting the car always kicks in maximum AC.
During this time the rev hang does disappear. When the compressor is engaged u do have to adjust to it and engage the clutch Mutch faster. After the car comes down in temp. Rev hang returns.
I’m definitely going to tune it out at this rate.
Should I listen to auto criticism from Hollywood's Seth Rogen?
Yo I sound like Seth Rogen? That’s awesome.
Throttle House Your laugh could use some work.
I think the 2012 civic coupe hfp looked the best. Second best is the 2015
I m thinking to remove the stock exaust and add one single Catback Exhaust
For the money saved, I’ll take the Elantra Sport. It has ft lbs down low and up high. I’ll also look at the Veloster N with 275 HP and 270 ft lbs of rip your head off power!!!
Kinda depends on your preference. I've driven the ES....to me it lacks soul (no pun intended). Its a car that is "commuter first" but will respond faster if you make it so. The Si is definitely the sharper of the 2. And the LSD makes a massive difference on corner exit.
Depends on your goals, if you plan on making any additional power you'll have to find an aftermarket LSD since it doesnt come with one. These cars also need internals just to hit over 300whp which is sad, the Si is already making over 350whp with bolt ons e85 and a turbo upgrade and runs the 11s in the quarter....
Raul Rey nice name calling. Bet you voted for Killary.
you are absolutely correct about the hollow flex when shifting
Beautiful scenery
For that money you can get a WRX, just as ridiculous in pricing as the BRZ tS for non-power related "upgrades"
But you dont get the same performance on the track then wrx. Unless you get the performance package on the wrx but it makes it more expensive then hfp
He’s smiling crack about the clutch pedal being different lol
So the only TRD will offer a performance parts for the engine!
Love my red Si as is. Mileage and all season performance. Only things would be better speakers and front seats
Great video and review. I love the car, but I hate the black wheels. They look ugly, in my opinion. I think this car should have the 2.0 liter turbo and the Type R should have the 3.5 liter, V6 with a turbocharger. Honda would have reached stellar heights, with this combination, and car enthusiasts worldwide would have taken notice. Their lineup is good, but they had the tools to be great.
I would like to see at least 2.0L turbo and rear wheel drive on this beauty.
Na civic si should always be front drive. But I would agree with a slightly bigger engine. But not as big as type R obviously
they should make the engine back to the 2.0 liter screamer but with an electric motor like the crz.
AguyNamedHorse um. No
Then again, how do one supposed to lowered the Si with the HFP suspension system anyway??
Just change the shocks and put coilovers.
great video
Still can’t believe Honda didn’t choose a better engine for the genx si, where as the 8th and 9th Gen si had different motors compared to the rest of the line up.
This is defnitly not what the Type R should look like. Not to say this looks very nice, but its not a major jump in style.
Very well done review
The wait part between gears is not the rev hang. You are completely wrong, if you do the complete traction control off "cheat code" that delay is gone. Not just pressing the vsa button and it still has rev hang but that's not that.
Sorry but that is rev hang. It’s a well documented emissions control software. It can be tuned out. But it’s there on the stock car.
Throttle House lol before you say I'm wrong I drive a ktuned 17 si. Go drive it again with full traction disabled and tell me I'm wrong. I thought the same thing until I fully disabled traction. Once again it still has rev hang unless you tune it, yes. But the delay from first to second gear. Like if you slammed gears, it will match the speed of your shift but only with the two traction lights and one flashing. No "pause"
Throttle House all you reviewer's say the same. Drive it again. It's better than you think with that cheat code as people like to complain and say. It's even better with a 23psi dual tune.
No I mean in normal mode. That IS rev hang. Sure it might be able to be disabled. But the average person isn’t going To do that if they drive this car every day
evobusa You are absolutely right... I came back for your little ass... Just too comment your right...
I bought a brand new 18 SI last week. The Rev hang is fucking terrible!!! When I de activated VSA or traction control as most of us call it... BOOM rev hang issue GREATLY fixed if not perfect
Can you get HPF kit installed if you bought a 2017 Civic SI?
Yes.
Can you just give honda a normal Xgen Si to modify it to this or do you have to buy a new one?
djhypersonic You'd have to purchase the parts from the dealer and then have them install, or buy them online and do it yourself. You'll save half of the money that way.
Zach Collins thanks for the info!
How does this compare with the 2019 veloster.
Thats almost 10 grand more than an Elantra Sport sedan or GT. Look out Honda, Hyundai is in your rear view mirror big time.
Can’t argue there. But this has something those don’t.
Went to U of G I recognize that church!
I was told to not mod a new civic and just buy an older one to play around with.
If you had a choice would you choose the SI or Wrx?
Probably wrx. I live in Canada.
Isn't the Sport Accord 2.0 with the manual the same price as this? Then you get 252hp and a much better interior!
Not even close on price. You can get one similar in price for the 1.5 not to 2.0