@@Cotton088 He had a 2015-2020 gen f150. This is the first generation that the cabs in the f150 and superduty are identical. So again, the interior room is the exact same in his old truck to the new one.
From an 11 F350 deleted King Ranch to a 21 powerboost 150 Platinum F150 travels town and county smother quiter. The 150 leveled with the 6.5 ft bed. The 350 had the 8 foot bed . Fuel milage the power boost will go from 12mpg to 25 around town 17, the 350 Diesel was 15 .
Great video, one question though: what made you choose the powerstroke over the 7.3 Godzilla? It seems that for your purposes with a $10k lower price tag, no DEF or other increased maintenance costs, it might have suited you just as well. I’m in research mode for myself and am really strongly considering both options.
I wanted the extra power of the diesel and resale value. That motor is awesome though. I just got 13 mpg towing the boat this weekend and it gets a lot better mileage not towing. Of course...if that was the only thing...the 10k price difference would take a long time to pay off. I also tend to put a lot of miles on my vehicles so I can keep this one longer with the diesel when it comes to milage and depreciation.
That boat and trailer is pretty light (5-6k tops), so a half ton is more than suited for the job, as well as most large and some midsize SUVs. HD pickup is overkill but nothing wrong that with- they're a stable platform overbuilt for the job and they tow great. The 6.7 PSD for 99% of buyers is just about having that power/feel/emotion, kind of akin to owning a sportscar; they are fun but aren't practical in any sense of the word. The fuel efficiency angle is a red herring; I disagree with him there. The gasser costs less to fuel given the price of diesel vs unleaded, let alone when you factor in DEF, fuel treatments, bigger and more frequent oil changes, fuel filters, expensive repairs (list is very large). 17 MPG highway in a gas F250 is the equivalent price in fuel of a 22 MPG diesel. He's getting 16-17 around town in a 6.7 and I get 12-13 in a 7.3 gas; the gasser is cheaper to fuel, and it doesn't need to waste more fuel on regens. His business case is 100% for a gasser but a lot of people wind up going diesel- particularly those who have yet to experience the limpmode breakdowns, expensive fuel system and emissions repairs (ranging anywhere from $2k -15k) as well as the oil leaks.
It would have been more useful to thoroughly go over the suspension, frame and drivetrain from underneath and show how the 'superduty's are so much more stable under heavy load and nasty road/field conditions. Both with and without an industrial trailer load. That's what they're made for, not accelerating around the Atlanta suburbs. I bought my F150 new for general use because I thought it would last longer and be more reliable and way more useful than some little car. I was right. But after maxing out GCVW several times, carrying a few full loads of coal, carrying around furniture and building materials, and occasionally taking the logging road running up into the mountains behind my house, the leaf springs finally broke. No idea what condition the frame is in. A new one-ton is on my bucket list because it should be more capable and tougher when I toss it around and load it up. And because how the steering might feel better and how more or less difficult it is to do maintenance and repairs on. I'd be way more interested in that than some stoopid cosmetic discussion on how the lights or 'cup holders' or leather seats look or whatever.
I went with the Powerboost for the 5.5 second 0-60. How is the 0-60 on the 6.7L? My last diesel was a '99 Cummins with 490 HP on the dyno. You said it was longer, but it is only longer if you get the 8 foot bed. After driving my RAM 3500 it is so nice to jump into my F150 with the Blue Cruise and soft ride. It is like a 70s luxury car.
It's right around 6.1 - 6.5 depending on who tested it. Where that power really comes into play for the truck is from a roll on the highway. It really gets moving then.
M towing a 5k pound boat a 3.5 making 400 horses and 500 torque will be just as fast as a 6.7 f250 from a 50 pull towing. Torque won’t help you that much that fast
@@thesuttongarageI think you’d be surprised by the power of the 3rd Gen 5.0L and 3.5L EB when combined with the 10R80 transmission. And, if you tune either, you’d really be shocked by the power of both.
@@Brian_195 I have a '17 F-150 EB and it pulls my travel trailer just fine. It's a 31.5' ultralite that weighs 7600 max. I can pull a local canyon I have to go through, with it's 6% grade and can make it at 60 MPH. Where I would like the SD is when I get into a crosswind. I don't get trailer sway, because my hitch is configured properly, but I have had instances where the entire rig just started drifting to one side. That extra wheelbase and weight can still pay dividends.
Thank you. I was debating on getting an F-150 or 250 because I would like to put a camper shell on the back that weighs up to 1800 pounds. On the F-150 I was going to have to put a leaf spring pack on for the camper. Sounds like the 250 would be able to handle the camper and not have to do any modifications... The question is now should I get gas or diesel...? I would like to off-road this vehicle and go camping. Any suggestions..? Thanks 👍
In the 250 I like the diesel for longevity and resale. The 7.3 gas just hasn't proven itself out for that yet. Most people that want to tow heavily or put a lot of miles in don't mind high milage on a diesel like they would a gas. It is a 10k upgrade but on resale it brings more than that regardless of mileage.
@k.r.6709 - If the focus is on payload, several F-150 variants are available with a Heavy Duty Payload Package (HDPP). Depending on the config it can boost the payload of a super cab with the 5.0 to around 2760 lbs or more. The F-250 super cab gas is closer to 3900 lbs payload, less for the diesel. I am also looking at a camper with similar weight, plus a few hundred more in gear and tools. It is easy to overpack.
Comical. None of your claims are true. You just like big stuff. F150 3.5 eco will pull a Malibu like a dream. Also dont compare lifted and big wheel 150 to stock 250. 4 cupholder comment was all I needed to laugh
The half ton class of trucks (class 2A) have become too soft and their payload numbers have suffered. Add that to the weaker frame, and drivetrain and the choice is pretty obvious. If you need a pickup truck you buy class 2B or class 3.
@@02hreblue30 Tongue weight can be significant. It's also handy to be able to drop a pallet in the bed. A pallet has of Quikcrete has 42 bags at 80 lbs per bag, plus the pallet weight.
his f150 is lifted, leveled, has larger tires, and a full metal front skid plate and that's why he gets poor performance from it. if it was a factory f150 he would get substantially better performance, and less strain on the chassis
And when you modify a diesel F250 the falloff is not nearly as bad. I drove my F150 stock for a year before I made the mods too so I do have a good point of reference.
@@kensporalsky3784 yea because your truck is a pavement princess, you would notice a difference if you used your truck for work everyday with those modifications.
@@thebigpenises 🤣 I tow around 10k of hay out of the field regularly in 4 wheel drive and drive to town for trips to the feed store to haul grain. If that’s what you call pavement princess than she’s awfully muddy. My kinda princess
Yeah it actually does. When you put a load on the truck it gets multiplied. A stock F150 in town gets better but not on the highway or while towing. That is also dependent upon gas prices at the time.
Interior room in a 250 is identical to a 150. They use the exact same cab.
@@Cotton088 He had a 2015-2020 gen f150. This is the first generation that the cabs in the f150 and superduty are identical. So again, the interior room is the exact same in his old truck to the new one.
@@Cotton088 It's the same cab buddy, and just so you know there is only 1 cubic foot difference from the largest F150 bed vs F250 bed. LOL
Agreed ! Exactly the same cab. The doors etc are even interchangeable
F150 cab size feels about the same, width wise, as my work 2023 F550. Maybe just a bit more head space 🤷🏻♂️
@@chrisstromberg6527 The F250 has the option of an 8'2" bed on a crew cab. The F150 crew cab tops out at 6'6".
From an 11 F350 deleted King Ranch to a 21 powerboost 150 Platinum
F150 travels town and county smother quiter. The 150 leveled with the 6.5 ft bed.
The 350 had the 8 foot bed .
Fuel milage the power boost will go from 12mpg to 25 around town 17, the 350 Diesel was 15 .
I’ll be sticking with the F150 lifestyle forever
I had 2 F150s. I have a 2017 F250 6.7 now. Its a night and day difference.
Great video, one question though: what made you choose the powerstroke over the 7.3 Godzilla? It seems that for your purposes with a $10k lower price tag, no DEF or other increased maintenance costs, it might have suited you just as well. I’m in research mode for myself and am really strongly considering both options.
I wanted the extra power of the diesel and resale value. That motor is awesome though. I just got 13 mpg towing the boat this weekend and it gets a lot better mileage not towing. Of course...if that was the only thing...the 10k price difference would take a long time to pay off. I also tend to put a lot of miles on my vehicles so I can keep this one longer with the diesel when it comes to milage and depreciation.
That boat and trailer is pretty light (5-6k tops), so a half ton is more than suited for the job, as well as most large and some midsize SUVs. HD pickup is overkill but nothing wrong that with- they're a stable platform overbuilt for the job and they tow great. The 6.7 PSD for 99% of buyers is just about having that power/feel/emotion, kind of akin to owning a sportscar; they are fun but aren't practical in any sense of the word. The fuel efficiency angle is a red herring; I disagree with him there. The gasser costs less to fuel given the price of diesel vs unleaded, let alone when you factor in DEF, fuel treatments, bigger and more frequent oil changes, fuel filters, expensive repairs (list is very large). 17 MPG highway in a gas F250 is the equivalent price in fuel of a 22 MPG diesel. He's getting 16-17 around town in a 6.7 and I get 12-13 in a 7.3 gas; the gasser is cheaper to fuel, and it doesn't need to waste more fuel on regens. His business case is 100% for a gasser but a lot of people wind up going diesel- particularly those who have yet to experience the limpmode breakdowns, expensive fuel system and emissions repairs (ranging anywhere from $2k -15k) as well as the oil leaks.
@@sly9263 I have 180,000 on my 6.7 and have had 0 issues with fuel system or emissions. It's been a great truck
It would have been more useful to thoroughly go over the suspension, frame and drivetrain from underneath and show how the 'superduty's are so much more stable under heavy load and nasty road/field conditions. Both with and without an industrial trailer load. That's what they're made for, not accelerating around the Atlanta suburbs.
I bought my F150 new for general use because I thought it would last longer and be more reliable and way more useful than some little car. I was right. But after maxing out GCVW several times, carrying a few full loads of coal, carrying around furniture and building materials, and occasionally taking the logging road running up into the mountains behind my house, the leaf springs finally broke. No idea what condition the frame is in.
A new one-ton is on my bucket list because it should be more capable and tougher when I toss it around and load it up. And because how the steering might feel better and how more or less difficult it is to do maintenance and repairs on. I'd be way more interested in that than some stoopid cosmetic discussion on how the lights or 'cup holders' or leather seats look or whatever.
I don't disagree. This was my take. Guys that haul heavy loads would have a different one. There are videos out there on that too.
I went with the Powerboost for the 5.5 second 0-60. How is the 0-60 on the 6.7L? My last diesel was a '99 Cummins with 490 HP on the dyno. You said it was longer, but it is only longer if you get the 8 foot bed. After driving my RAM 3500 it is so nice to jump into my F150 with the Blue Cruise and soft ride. It is like a 70s luxury car.
It's right around 6.1 - 6.5 depending on who tested it. Where that power really comes into play for the truck is from a roll on the highway. It really gets moving then.
The short bed on the Super Duty is longer than the F-150 short bed.
I’d say another pro is the longevity of the diesel engine vs gas.
And resale when it comes to milage on diesel vs. gas.
I’m secretly dreaming of getting 250 and a camper strapped to it…
Wishful thinking probably….who knows
But yeah 250 looks great
M towing a 5k pound boat a 3.5 making 400 horses and 500 torque will be just as fast as a 6.7 f250 from a 50 pull towing. Torque won’t help you that much that fast
You must not pull many hills…that is where the torque shines
Nah you're only towing of boat 4 times a year a boat...i prefer F150 3.5 EB or 5.0V8 rather than F250...save on gas and money. Just sayin!
I really like the extra power. That is a solid argument though which is why a lot more people buy F150's. I loved mine.
@@thesuttongarageI think you’d be surprised by the power of the 3rd Gen 5.0L and 3.5L EB when combined with the 10R80 transmission. And, if you tune either, you’d really be shocked by the power of both.
@@Brian_195 I have a '17 F-150 EB and it pulls my travel trailer just fine. It's a 31.5' ultralite that weighs 7600 max. I can pull a local canyon I have to go through, with it's 6% grade and can make it at 60 MPH. Where I would like the SD is when I get into a crosswind. I don't get trailer sway, because my hitch is configured properly, but I have had instances where the entire rig just started drifting to one side. That extra wheelbase and weight can still pay dividends.
Thank you.
I was debating on getting an F-150 or 250 because I would like to put a camper shell on the back that weighs up to 1800 pounds.
On the F-150 I was going to have to put a leaf spring pack on for the camper.
Sounds like the 250 would be able to handle the camper and not have to do any modifications...
The question is now should I get gas or diesel...?
I would like to off-road this vehicle and go camping.
Any suggestions..?
Thanks 👍
In the 250 I like the diesel for longevity and resale. The 7.3 gas just hasn't proven itself out for that yet. Most people that want to tow heavily or put a lot of miles in don't mind high milage on a diesel like they would a gas. It is a 10k upgrade but on resale it brings more than that regardless of mileage.
@@thesuttongarage thank you. I will go with a diesel. I appreciate your help.
@k.r.6709 - If the focus is on payload, several F-150 variants are available with a Heavy Duty Payload Package (HDPP). Depending on the config it can boost the payload of a super cab with the 5.0 to around 2760 lbs or more. The F-250 super cab gas is closer to 3900 lbs payload, less for the diesel. I am also looking at a camper with similar weight, plus a few hundred more in gear and tools. It is easy to overpack.
Sweet Truck !!!
Great answers and comparison
I try to support other content creators, but Wtf was up with that tires to gym comment … yikes.
It’s not DEF fluid. You’re saying diesel exhaust fluid fluid…
Comical. None of your claims are true. You just like big stuff. F150 3.5 eco will pull a Malibu like a dream. Also dont compare lifted and big wheel 150 to stock 250. 4 cupholder comment was all I needed to laugh
He forgot to mention that when comes to maintenence the diesel engine is much *cheaper* to maintain
@@diegostevenson4569 exactlly the opposite. Gas is cheaper to maintain no filters less oil etc
@@02hreblue30 I was being sarcastic
Radio?
After I seen the gay raptor, I don't think I want a Ford anymore
So many things make you ask wtf
The half ton class of trucks (class 2A) have become too soft and their payload numbers have suffered. Add that to the weaker frame, and drivetrain and the choice is pretty obvious. If you need a pickup truck you buy class 2B or class 3.
@@rich7447 payload only counts in tongue weight on the hitch
@@02hreblue30 Tongue weight can be significant. It's also handy to be able to drop a pallet in the bed. A pallet has of Quikcrete has 42 bags at 80 lbs per bag, plus the pallet weight.
Full of crap. Anyone who has driven the 3.5 knows it’s fast and gets 22+ on the highway with the same size cab as a 250. This guy knows nothing.
his f150 is lifted, leveled, has larger tires, and a full metal front skid plate and that's why he gets poor performance from it. if it was a factory f150 he would get substantially better performance, and less strain on the chassis
@@philipburzynski856 mine is leveled with 34’s still gets 21 on the Highway and 18 around town.
And when you modify a diesel F250 the falloff is not nearly as bad. I drove my F150 stock for a year before I made the mods too so I do have a good point of reference.
@@kensporalsky3784 yea because your truck is a pavement princess, you would notice a difference if you used your truck for work everyday with those modifications.
@@thebigpenises 🤣 I tow around 10k of hay out of the field regularly in 4 wheel drive and drive to town for trips to the feed store to haul grain. If that’s what you call pavement princess than she’s awfully muddy. My kinda princess
Im missin something...better mileage on the hway in a 250??..even if its deisel....
Yeah it actually does. When you put a load on the truck it gets multiplied. A stock F150 in town gets better but not on the highway or while towing. That is also dependent upon gas prices at the time.
@@bornr2797 dude is laughable. He just wants a big truck.