On euro 5 emissions ruining sportbikes

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  • Опубліковано 24 лис 2024

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  • @judgementkazzy7172
    @judgementkazzy7172 День тому +150

    Wish the celebrities flying around in private jets producing millions of tons of emissions in 1 month had to abide by the same standards as us car and bike enthusiasts.

    • @oceyho
      @oceyho День тому

      exactly. Just those rich fks alone produce 50% of carbon emissions on the planet, yet they restrict only us normies. Just taylor swift alone took an insane amount of 170 + private jet flights last year, which equals 120 tonnes of CO2 emissions, 83 times that of the average american.

    • @operator0
      @operator0 День тому +1

      Rules for thee, not for me.

  • @cloudcata8300
    @cloudcata8300 День тому +48

    I'm from Europe and I have never met anyone that agrees with the emission standards, everything over Euro 4 has ruined the automotive industry.

    • @jasonbrown3658
      @jasonbrown3658 День тому +1

      It's to line the pockets of corrupt politicians

  • @handicapandu8049
    @handicapandu8049 День тому +37

    I really dont know why they bother anymore, like 70-80% of riders in EU will get rid of the stock exaust anyway... For my GSR 750 i did that and they can give me tickets and take my number plates as many time as they want, i will still put the SC project back on it every single time.

    • @aidan6557
      @aidan6557 День тому

      Don't complain let it stay like that, because there's no chance the EU are going to reverse the emissions laws but there's a chance they may outlaw race pipes (or at least better enforce it). So be happy there's at least one way to get around it.

    • @rozi5129
      @rozi5129 День тому +1

      yeah, we usually do tech inspection with all stock, then ride with open exhausts, swap back to stock for next tech inspection.... if you avoid major city riding, going to meets etc. you usually get away with it no problem... at least in my country

  • @750zo
    @750zo День тому +15

    1 reason ill always collect older bikes. Look sound and just smell different 🖤

  • @IIFaDedII
    @IIFaDedII День тому +7

    Dont know about yamaha but i just saw a 2 stroke ktm 6 days at my local dealear at russia and it had plates, turn signals and mirrors jsut like ktm 500 exc. Turns out it has street compliant exhaust and ecu flash that matches all emissions. But when you buy it dealer "sorts" it out themselves and you get your beast ready for rocky mounains.

  • @Rancid_Ninja
    @Rancid_Ninja День тому +7

    I'm not buying new, I buy used low milage bikes but because they aren't making new ones people are holding onto their old ones and the prices of inline 4s are climbing

  • @DeepSouthMoto
    @DeepSouthMoto День тому +4

    Yep.. well intentioned but killing the sport along with prices being to high for bikes

  • @MotoLopez1k
    @MotoLopez1k День тому +5

    I can do better milage on my 2022 CBR1000RR than any SUV. So why are SUVs everywhere? I can get 42mph per gallon going 80mph. SUVs get 15-20 mags if you’re lucky. I think it has to do with groups of people hating on motorcycles….

  • @AT2Productions
    @AT2Productions День тому +2

    The RSV4 and Ducati V4 engines have shared crankshafts in each. The issue isn’t the internals, and the 2025 Panigale V4 is Euro 5+ compliant. There’s tuning and mechanical engineering to get more efficient burns to meet the pollution levels acceptable.

  • @StrawhatLuffy2468
    @StrawhatLuffy2468 День тому +3

    Currently the same thing is going on in India as BS6 version. We still miss the older versions.

  • @dorayaki5494
    @dorayaki5494 День тому +5

    Inline4's sportsbikes are "soon" to become as valuable and expensive as their 2-stroke counterparts are nowaydays. It's a shame... I'll keep riding my '03 600RR for as long as I can though.

  • @nameless5r
    @nameless5r День тому +8

    If you happen to see this(or anyone with any knowledge of this issue), does your RSV4 burn oil? The service guy at the dealership told me that it's normal for these bikes to burn around .7L per 600-1000 miles.

    • @BraapBanana_
      @BraapBanana_ День тому +1

      Seems like a common issue with the latest rsv4's. 2 riders I know with 2022-2023 rsv4's have crazy oil usage. 0.5 to 0.7L per 1000km.. it's insane. If it's over 1L per 1000km you can get a rebuild or a new engine if it's within warranty.

    • @Floxiiik
      @Floxiiik День тому +2

      ask on the subreddit aprilia. They are helpful.

  • @acidtdi
    @acidtdi День тому +1

    What worries me more is all of this has happened within one generation of politicians who refuse to retire...yet are rich...

  • @MotoSurgeon
    @MotoSurgeon День тому +2

    We should have the option to buy CO2 offsets to allow high performance engine platforms to remain in production the same way they offer them to governments companies and individuals in general. I assume this is already factored into registration fees to some extent in some areas.

  • @denser8401
    @denser8401 День тому +1

    I am from Germany and the restrictions are insane.

  • @ayushbarot
    @ayushbarot День тому +1

    One of the reasons why I still bought a 2025 gsxr750 which still has the screaming inline 4.

  • @fuglbird
    @fuglbird День тому +1

    The Euro standards are fine. Look at the modest Suzuki SV650. The acceleration and the fuel economy is better than the original Kawasaki Z1 900 super bike. The top speed is lower but I don't need to go 230 km/h - not even when riding in Germany. My first motorcycle was a 1972 two stroke three cylinder air cooled Suzuki GT550. It was amazing but the fuel economy of the SV650 is 60 % better.

  • @KeViNMCMXXCIX
    @KeViNMCMXXCIX День тому +1

    As bikes do pollute WAAAAAAAY less then cars, vans, trucks etc.
    So no I don't think that will affect them that much. Here in Europe, The Netherlands, the most complaints/reactions you might get is when a bike or car is making to much noise dB wise with an exhaust.
    Some countries more then others and then again some police officers more then others. They understand it's a hobby and you enjoy it but if you can do it without being a nuisance to anyone else all the time they'll be fine with it and let you go with it.
    Only way emissions matter is with the yearly MOT. So you either swap back your catalytic converter each year if you run a full exhaust on a car, or keep it on there all the time to pass emissions. Motorcycles don't need yearly MOT. Nor an emissions check since they pollute way less then cars etc.
    Yet they do have to be technically safe to be on the road, which obviously is that way with any other vehicle.

  • @CammyMoto
    @CammyMoto День тому +1

    Loving the high value content, Thank you.

  • @markallenarcano9439
    @markallenarcano9439 20 годин тому

    Present Bro from the Philippines 🙋

  • @Michael-H23
    @Michael-H23 День тому +1

    I think this was a good video... euro 5 emissions laws are hurting motorcycles but it's the coast also.... inline 4s 600s 1000s have become way to expensive all the unneeded creature comforts with no option of a base modles hurts sales....essentially it's all the above..
    Emissions and price 😂😂

  • @alexnunes5186
    @alexnunes5186 День тому +1

    The sad part is that all these regulations do not apply for airplanes, boat diesel, and space rockets. Have you seen the amount of smoke a rocket produces? It's like all the cars and motorcycles combined together in 10 years.

  • @nomsi4263
    @nomsi4263 День тому +3

    The answer is yes.

  • @Senpaibiker
    @Senpaibiker День тому

    I thought it was weird how the V4s are more easily able to pass emmissions than I4s. My Euro5 RSV4's catalytic converter and stock exhaust was not as big and obnoxious as the I4s. If you look at the current GSXR1000s their exhausts are massive! Hopefully D4A can answer that in a future video.

  • @itzikca
    @itzikca День тому +4

    You still got the Honda cb600rr and 650r and they are euro 5 compliant

  • @langhamp8912
    @langhamp8912 День тому +1

    I mostly agree with the Euro 5 because it does make my bike astoundingly quiet, and despite being a cheaper bike with very low insurance, it does make more power and hustles around a racetrack faster than the original Honda CBR900RR. The motorcycle community is a noise problem, and it is riders versus the world.

    • @a.g.6983
      @a.g.6983 День тому +3

      You're definitely an Electric guy, aren't you?

  • @TheSkeptic-lz2cc
    @TheSkeptic-lz2cc День тому

    We need more YT videos showing how to decat, remove EVAP systems and air injection systems on motorcycles. Because surely the emissions regulators never watch YT. The regulators would never think to add more laws requiring OBD detection of removed equipment or to require more foolproof inspection schemes to find bikes with tampering.

  • @detansinn9882
    @detansinn9882 День тому +1

    US EPA noise emissions are ruining sportbikes. This is why the European ZX4RR makes so much more power than its US counterpart. There are several Euro 5 motorcycles that make more power than their US counterparts, because our bikes get different tunes to mute the power and lower noise at higher revs. European bikes are allowed to be louder.

  • @KimmyR3
    @KimmyR3 День тому +1

    it's not ruining motorcycles, but it's ruining motorcycling.. as in the process of getting into motorcycling and all the experiences of owning one

  • @lycanit
    @lycanit День тому +14

    Glad I don’t live in Europe, or cali for that matter. My bike has been modified enough now that i have to worry every time I ride in cali though. They really don’t like full race exhaust systems and anything to do with messing with emissions.

    • @adobomoto
      @adobomoto  День тому +4

      They care less than what you might think bro!

    • @Mr.P1neappl3
      @Mr.P1neappl3 День тому

      They really don’t care about bikes emissions. Especially in the bay area. They more worried about the safety of people and also more focused on cars, not motorcycles. My friend has a straight gsxr 600 thats stupid loud and they never even look his way

    • @HumzMoto
      @HumzMoto День тому +1

      Lol what are u talking about. Cali cops do not care about modified motorcycles. 99% of us have deleted cats and modified exhaust. I dont know a single rider bothered by any Cali cop for that reason. Cars are a different story. Hell i literally cruise at 90mph passing CHP and they never both me. We split lanes through moving traffic, never bothered. Cali is literally the ideal state to own a motorcycle. All year riding, infinite canyon roads through sierras, worth while road trips, splitting lanes. Everything you could ask for as a motorcyclist

    • @Nocturnal_Deity
      @Nocturnal_Deity 22 години тому

      Depends on where you go in Cali really. SD and LA don’t give a damn.

    • @lycanit
      @lycanit 22 години тому

      @ Crescent city did, I was being a prick though. My friend whole crew was really. 8 of use got pulled over, I think they thought we would run. Im too old to run I’ll just take a ticket not a felony for evasion.

  • @nicoswesterop8800
    @nicoswesterop8800 День тому +1

    I live in Europe. Got a tuned decat Honda Blackbird and a Kawasaki h2 sxse soon to be fitted with a titanium zx10r header, linkpipe and open akra exhaust ofcourse sprint airfilter and a nice flash. All i do is keeping the original exhaust for both. When i get caught i get a certain amount of time to reinstall the original parts and prove i brought it back to the original state. I still get a fine, but who gives a shit. I had fun for a few years and it's more than worth it. After a few months i reinstall the fun bits and we start all over again😂

  • @ChrisVanMiddelkoop
    @ChrisVanMiddelkoop День тому +2

    I think motorcycles should just do what cars do and have multiple versions. There can be a euro version and there can be a US version. sorta like how we have california specific cars. lolol. California. really shouldn't even be a state anymore at this point it is so unamerican.

  • @rozi5129
    @rozi5129 День тому

    it is sad that we are loosing iconic models of bikes, but we are getting a lot of new exiting bikes, in close future probably some new technologies like hondas 3 cyl turbo they showed at ecima....
    and also all of those discontinued bikes are available on used market, same how in car market old bmw's are iconic and everybody wants them, C6 vette is still better than new C8 (imo) so we are just going to shift the culture from getting all new bikes and that being cool, to be more like car market where having an icon will be more desirable and equally cool (for those who care about that)

  • @jtfritchie
    @jtfritchie День тому +1

    I’d love to get the link for that Kevin Cameron article. Tried to find it.

  • @joeplem5329
    @joeplem5329 День тому +6

    Translation =the horsepower wars for motorcycles are pretty much over 😒

    • @750zo
      @750zo День тому +3

      It's a tech war now, all they do is one up eachother in tech

    • @Jacob99174
      @Jacob99174 День тому +1

      @@750zothis

  • @mitracangalheiro
    @mitracangalheiro День тому

    thanks to Euro"*" emissons rules i prefer the good old carbs and motorcycles until 2010.... much easy to get the power, no problem with emissons specs, and mostly no ABS 😁

  • @ghajepkre
    @ghajepkre День тому +1

    Ultimate goal is the inline zero

  • @SacrificiaLamb.The.Gixxerator
    @SacrificiaLamb.The.Gixxerator День тому +2

    @adobomoto Brude, Can you make a Request to KYT to make a Transition / Photochromic Visor for the KX-1 Helmet? Please

  • @joekavalauskas8767
    @joekavalauskas8767 18 годин тому

    They’re making engines bigger and detuning them from the factory. If you’re going to tune your bike (pretty standard mod these days) you’re treated to *even more* power!!

  • @NTDang
    @NTDang День тому +1

    Im still waiting to get 30 km per liter or 70 miles per gallon

  • @shawngildersleeve9831
    @shawngildersleeve9831 День тому +1

    I don't even need to watch the video to say, absolutely yes. Since when does Europe dictate what America does.

  • @ChrisVanMiddelkoop
    @ChrisVanMiddelkoop День тому +2

    yes

  • @Floxiiik
    @Floxiiik День тому +1

    all the millionaires are way worse for the environment than me on my MT-09 that I might or might not straight pipe.

  • @loamtrailer805
    @loamtrailer805 День тому

    The amount of smog that 15 cargo ships produce is the same as all the cars and trucks in the world. And theres thousands of cargo ships worldwide

  • @hectik_commo2165
    @hectik_commo2165 День тому +6

    Yee none of our bikes make a dif so long as china, india and latin america keep pollution going all on their own

    • @saminhaque8472
      @saminhaque8472 День тому

      Why do borders make a difference? We should be wise enough to count emissions per capita.

  • @ChrisVanMiddelkoop
    @ChrisVanMiddelkoop День тому +1

    america has freedom, or at least it tries to.

  • @ChrisSauer-oe5ve
    @ChrisSauer-oe5ve День тому

    The sales dictated the production, not the euro bs.
    All they had to do was add a Catalytic converter & de tune the engine to pass emissions.
    Facts.
    Don’t get it twisted.

  • @raqueshdewind9462
    @raqueshdewind9462 23 години тому

    No you actually said it good the first time is kilometer not klometer 1:42

  • @Molina2R
    @Molina2R 21 годину тому

    Euro 5 is killing bike enthusiast asf, worst part a bike even a top of the line bike like r1, zx10r, cbr1000rrr, s1krr, v4s etc wont ever throw same amount of emissions than any 2024 car yet we still damaged.

  • @TheCenturion8404
    @TheCenturion8404 День тому +1

    My question is why does Ducati euro versions make more power than the American version?

    • @adobomoto
      @adobomoto  День тому +1

      I ask myself the same thing 😅

    • @markbarrett2393
      @markbarrett2393 День тому

      Tuning and fuel compared to Europe?

    • @mitracangalheiro
      @mitracangalheiro День тому

      @@adobomoto most likely due to fuel octane... europe as 95oct 98 oct or in same cases 100oct.... you in the US start with 81oct 83oct 85 oct 91oct if not mistaken.... so we in EU have a more "powerfull" full combustion (higher octane index) vs US

    • @SteveGreenCRMDeveloper
      @SteveGreenCRMDeveloper День тому

      ​@@mitracangalheiro The difference in octane ratings between Europe and the US is largely due to how the octane is measured.
      In Europe, the octane rating is based on RON (Research Octane Number), which measures how the fuel performs under light-load and low-speed conditions. This is why you commonly see 95 RON or 98 RON in European fuels.
      In the US, the octane rating displayed at the pump is an average of RON and MON (Motor Octane Number), often written as (R+M)/2. MON measures fuel performance under more severe conditions, like high-load and high-speed operations. Since MON values are typically lower than RON, the average (R+M)/2 results in a lower octane number on US pumps.
      For example:
      A fuel rated as 95 RON in Europe would appear as approximately 91 (R+M)/2 in the US.
      Similarly, 98 RON in Europe is roughly equivalent to 93 (R+M)/2 in the US.
      So, while the numbers differ, the fuels are comparable in quality. European "higher octane" fuels might sound more powerful, but it's simply a difference in measurement systems rather than an actual performance difference.

    • @operator0
      @operator0 День тому

      @@mitracangalheiro Higher octane doesn't give you more power. It does allow you to run higher compression (or higher boost), which gives you more power. Putting in higher octane than what the bike requires will make no difference, what-so-ever, on the dyno. Putting in lower octane than what the bike requires may damage the engine though. Does the Euro Duc have higher compression than its N. American counterpart? If not, then the fuel is not the answer.

  • @Mr.Torque137.5
    @Mr.Torque137.5 День тому

    Living in the wrong Country (Germany) to strict regulations, can't not change the full exhaust system in titanium, I'm f*kt😂

  • @DubstepRacing
    @DubstepRacing День тому +3

    More videos like these bro!!

  • @fuglbird
    @fuglbird День тому +1

    Do you use 30W50 engine oil in your hair? Think of the environment - especially your helmet!

  • @Tuthegoofball
    @Tuthegoofball 18 годин тому

    It’s always, “California does their own thing”. Are they just their own country😂

  • @sheldonong7648
    @sheldonong7648 День тому

    Let’s get real man. It’s not emissions that are killing superbikes. It’s the market. If people will buy them, companies will make them, no matter what. The price will adjust accordingly to the tech yeah, but also to the production volume. But the old gen are getting too old to ride them. And the new gen are not interested in them. That’s the real reason.

    • @adobomoto
      @adobomoto  23 години тому

      Did you watch til the end? 😂

  • @cocky_potato
    @cocky_potato День тому

    Excellent video; love this sort of content.
    The demise of some of our favorite bikes is caused by several factors you already touched upon. People love the idea of a screaming 600cc in the forums, but their wallets decide on an MT-07. People seem really sad about sport bikes dying, but then go buy ADVs because they want comfort. Also, most people I know never bought and never will buy a new motorcycle - people buy used. That's all great, but someone, somehow eventually needs to buy new machines for the manufacturers to make money.
    In my opinion, the crisis in motorcycling right now is not so much due to Emissions Regulations. Yes, that doesn't help in the slightest, and some models are axed because of that. But again, if the R6 would sell like hot cakes, Yamaha would find a way - it would be financially viable and profitable for them to do so.
    The main issues are the cost of living; no one can afford anything these days. On top of that, new generations simply do no care about motorcycles, period. We're not replacing the riders we're losing, year after year; it's as simple as that. In a world where people can't affort shit, they're not going to spend a ton of money in something they have no interest.
    My advise? IOLO, get the bike you want and can afford, ride the wheels of that thing, and enjoy your motorcycle life, cause it ain't for granted.

  • @ferrowzyt8504
    @ferrowzyt8504 День тому +1

    Are you trying to change your name from Adobo Moto to Adobo talks or what? Like where are the damn moto vlogs.... its cool to see some updates about the motorcycle community but god damn you really arent riding anymore.

  • @Rdiate
    @Rdiate День тому

    Front bigger intake looks so ugly like a open mouth

  • @stevie9361
    @stevie9361 4 години тому

    You tried to sneak in complaining about winglets. Look take the spoiler off your helmet an do highway speeds. You'll feel it! An this is only a 2% increase in down force. Don't know what speed that percentage comes from

  • @nickvandop3916
    @nickvandop3916 9 годин тому

    From europe. Still straightpipe my bikes. Just dont get caught

  • @B_kiz
    @B_kiz День тому

    Funny cause all you influencers always talk about i4 engines dying off due to popularity.. tons of people still LOVE the inline 4. The fact is it’s being KILLED off.. Y’all try to hype parallel twins and 3cyl like it’s a better replacement but it’s simply not and you all know it

  • @felixd4015
    @felixd4015 День тому

    stupid politics, and as riders we suffer 😢

  • @LostWolvesNomad
    @LostWolvesNomad День тому +1

    Do you hate Hayabusa?

  • @wqasdfew
    @wqasdfew День тому +3

    hell yeah im early

  • @Raptor4J
    @Raptor4J День тому +1

    Inline 4s are cringe so who cares. Boring ass motors that dont do anything until 14k.

  • @Catholic-o8x
    @Catholic-o8x День тому +2

    this world is not infinite euro 5 is for this world we have to realize that

  • @VoZ84
    @VoZ84 День тому +3

    First

  • @jasonlavallee5184
    @jasonlavallee5184 День тому +1

    Every single idiot involved with Euro BS standards needs dealing with.

  • @sqlb3rn
    @sqlb3rn День тому +2

    Oh well, global warming is a bigger problem than allowing 200hp super bikes on the street.

    • @Rdiate
      @Rdiate День тому

      Global warming happens bcs of vehicles(bikes included)

  • @jasperMT09
    @jasperMT09 День тому

    The people who run the EU are so annoying. They are like we all need to do something for the planet, well ok, but not everyone earns 300k euro’s like you all sitting there making rules we all have to obey. Whats happening right now aswell is companies like painters who cant go into certain parts of cities because they dont have the money to buy new electric vans.

  • @JPARKERZ28
    @JPARKERZ28 22 години тому

    😴

  • @Ni3K
    @Ni3K День тому

    ZX4RR, ZX6R, ZX10R, Z900, Ninja 1100, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, CB1000 Hornet, S1000RR, M1000RR all E5+. They don't sell R1's R6's and GSXR's because they don't sell anymore. E5 and E5+ emissions are the same, closed loop measuring does not affect high rpm's.

  • @big_mon1
    @big_mon1 День тому +3

    First