Anytime moist criticised starfield: "ok Charlie was right so far, but he is wrong about this part" Bro wants that es6 early acess so bad. "They did a VERRY good job at generation" like bruh are you even playing the same game?
It’s so strange to see Shroud be such an apologist over a game that is so far from being the home run that gamers thought it would be. Not saying it’s a terrible game, but his takes around this game are so very confusing.
A lot of streamers they'll talk about how it's dated the AI is terrible the graphic quality and art is inconsistent in quality the combat is bad so on so forth. I feel if it wasn't Bethesda this would be rated no more than a 7 max by most reviewers and streamers they are expected the modders to make it a 8-10 which is honestly pretty fucked up that is the expectation that unpaid gamers have to fix AAA games right out the box.
@@daviddubois4051 in cs you only walk and pre-aim spots, in valorant you have to use skills/spells which makes you think in what situation to use them, yes cs is easier.. valorant is basically more chaotic and random, or are you saying that it's really hard to throw a grenade/molotov in cs?.. honestly for me cs is so simple that it's really hard to play repetitively, but for older players it's probably better.
Steam's refund policy has a 2 hour limit. The 12 hour thing is just an article headliner stating that players said that it gets good after the first 12 hours.
"i respect him so much for not saying it's bad."??? yes not telling me what is wrong with a potential purchase is what i value in my reviewers. truly one of the qualities of all time.
I don't know what part of the video you're talking about, but if he said that because someone didn't like the game, but didn't say it's bad, then I don't see the problem. This game is to good to be called "bad". The only thing that is bad is the first 10 hours of the main story. It does a complete 180 after that, and it becomes a good story. I don't agree with Shroud when he says that the first 6 hours is the game, because that's only technically true. You see a lot of the gameplay aspects (not all of them), but learning things until they stop being overwhelming, and having having some basic perks, does make the game feel a lot better, because you finally understand what you're doing and you start having fun. There's a lot to learn at the beggining, and it is more overwhelming than fun. It's kinda like start playing League Of Legends by yourself. Your first match is never going to be your best match. You don't know what's going on. You may like what you see, but it gets much better once you understand it.
There are a lot of games which require patience and once the world opens up it's too good. Red dead redemption 2 is a big example of that. Yeah starfield is not it. Nothing to do with patience,It's just flat out boring. Now xbox boys don't come after me and cry, this is my opinion. You are entitled to yours
What blows my mind is how unimaginative the entire universe 300 years from today is. There's no vision here, just an "nasa" aesthetic and people just randomly plopping scl-fi cliche cities and colonies around the universe, but nobody really has anything to do. They're living more boring lives than we are.
You're right with what you said about the story vs the gameplay. Gameplay seems quite nice, but even just wathcing videos of the main story quests it seems like a MASSIVE sleeperfest.
The gameplay is fighting the same enemies you fought in the tutorial 99.9% of the time. And walking, lots of walking, and fast traveling. And uh...talking to npcs?
I already just knew to some extent shroud knew about charlie, but I wasn't expecting a rowdyshrowdy video like this. Been watching Charlie since his "erie" playthrough 10 years ago
Charlie is an OG UA-camr.. back when I started watching him he was doing infomercial voice overs that were absolutely hilarious.. I’m 27 and I’ve been watching him since I was like 14 😂😂
@@eTWreksame aha. Watching charlie back in the day was the reason i made an account to sub to his videos. Dude is just unapologetically himself and im here for it 🤟
The fitness challenge isn't bugged, but it is poorly described. You have to fill up the red CO2 bar from full O2, 20 times, not just run down the O2 bar
27:16 This is such a bone head take. When a game gets a 10, nobody is claiming that it's perfect and flawless. How do you not know this? Having said that, Starfield is a 6/10 at best.
I feel like i am genuinly the only person who fully expected starfield to simply be Skyrim/Fallout, set in space... Like i expected that from the start, was still hyped for it, and got exactly what i wanted. I have been a massive fan of bethesda since playing Morrowind and Oblivion on the original Xbox and again on PC, and i loved Fallout 3 and Skyrim on Xbox 360. And enjoyed Fallout 4 on PC. I also happen to be a massive fan of the space sim genra, games like Elite Dangerous, Star Citizen, No Man Skyes, i mean honestly the list of good space sims is long. My point is I knew this wasn't going to be a space sim going in, as much as i would have liked it to be. To really explore that genra you would have to sacrifice other elements of gameplay such as role playing, and to really explore the 1st person RPG genra you would have to sacrifice other elements such as the space sim side of it. Boils down to the game could have been a great 1st Person RPG, or a great Space Sim, or a mediocre Space Sim/1st Person RPG, that kinda fails at both, You can't make a game that is every genra all at once and great at every genra, its not going to work. Space Sims are complex enough to warrent their own games as are 1st Person RPG's In the end Bethesda set out to make a Bethesda style, 1st person RPG, set in space with a focus on role playing. Just like eldercrolls, just like fallout, but set in space.... Thats exactly what they said, thats exactly what i expected, thats exactly what i got.
I agree with your take, additionally... I think part of the negativity around this game is people playing this game on their PC/monitor. This isn't a competitive game, this is meant to be played with a controller while sitting on your couch. Play it on a 65" OLED w/ surround sound and you'll get more enjoyment out of the game.
@@taylorhickman84 I totally agree. tho i'll admit i do play it on my PC/Monitor. But i do like to sit back, occasionally pull out the controller, and just relax when i play. I'm one of those players who likes to put themselves in the headspace of their character and embrace the role playing aspect of the game. I feel like alot of the negatrivitly doesn't comes from what the game actualy is, which is great, but from what poeple wanted it to be.
@@sunsoar1822Yeah people need to temper their expectations, but a lot of the detractors are just drama queens. One guy in the comments said he logged 80 hours, but rates it a 5/10. I don't know about the majority, but a 5/10 isn't gettin more than a couple hours of my time.
I usually agree with Charlie on 99% of what he says, but I have to disagree with him. Sometimes you land on a planet, and there's nothing around for like a mile. I landed on a planet and like 6 or 7 POIs spawned within 1000m of where my ship landed. There was a colony outpost where I snuck behind the vendor and stole some really decent weapons. There was this lady with a pet animal, after we talked I stole her Wendigo spaceship. There was this group of Freestar Smugglers at a Oil Control Pipe site, where you can lie and say you are the person they're waiting for and you can take off with the items they give you, there was a Pirate Outpost where when I got there, a Spacers spaceship landed and they got into conflict and I joined in then stole their spaceship, there was so much stuff to do just within the radius of where I landed. It just depends on what POIs are generated when you land. With that being, I do understand how some planets are empty, but that's what it would be like on a lot of them if you were to travel to most planets. Yes, some will most likely have life, but a lot of them will be like that.
Ive completed the main story and every side quest I could find... reached level 54. While I did enjoy it... its absolutely not a "great" game... mods will make it a lot better but there are so many "shallow" aspects to it that just absolutely wreck the immersion/fullness of it for me.
Cope harder the only sheep are the ones buying triple AAA mods slapped on top of Fallout 4 eight years for this is laughable. Hoping modders will fix this joke 🤣
Most boring game I’ve personally played, I’m glad I didn’t pay for it. Fallout in space without VATS, gore, and most other things that made fallout actually fun. It’s also the least RPG role playing game I’ve ever played, you can really only be space man Dan. 95% of quests can only be done one way. 😢💩
I love how shroud reacts to the videos instead of just watching it and just gasping or laughing, he's really adding his opinion on someone else's video.
@@Juggs009 I mean his opinions are valid, it's just that when he has suggestions I don't think they necessarily have that much weight since his job basically demands him to move onto the next shiny thing in a week. So while he has takes that reflect him blasting a game in a few days, they might not be the best for the games longevity. But sometimes he has good takes, and I especially respect his opinions on competitive shooters
I got to level 20 then forgot about it. Usually when I get a new game, for the first week or two, ill be thinking about it non stop and cant wait for my day to be over so i can go home and play. But that just never happened to me with starfield
@@Juan800PimpBot Wonder why there's so many hypocrtes who haven't even played it. Who knows how many of these are just mainstream herd mentality. Just pirate the game bud, I did and it's a pretty decent game.
@@kenz2756 For free fifty free how many times you going to defend this shit Fan boi you're like in fifty comments. Seems like if it was that great you'd be playing your pirated copy not wasting your time defending a game you aren't willing to even pay for 🙈😂
yea once you complete the main story and maybe a few faction stories, the game is pretty much spent. The whole base building aspect of the game is completely useless and not necessary.
It's pretty useful if you get into the crafting aspect. If anything I keep getting back to this game due to the progression and crafting. Hell I think that's why the game doesn't get spent so quickly, credits feel like it matters as well. I've been playing since release and am still not done. And yet I pirated this game.
Unironically Cyberpunk is the evolution of a Bethesda RPG. Cinematic, immersion levels in terms of the missions at least are way higher and it’s a way, way better game.
@@Quazzi LOL ni way man, you've got to have a short memory. The supposed cutscenes were ruined by flickerings and warping and what not. It's horrible, immersion is the least thing cyberpunk had, it was the first thing the bugs ruined.
@@kenz2756 Bugs are subjective, aside from crashing I had none. We're talking about the game itself, even with the bugs it was miles better than any Bethesda game if we ditch nostalgia.
@@Quazzi Oh sure, well how convenient that is for you huh? So let's just ditch that whole conversation then and start with this one, for you. Cyberpunk was ok, i wouldn't say it was a game changer either. Story was too short. Side quests were pretty lackluster save for a few especially pertaining to the ally relationship quests. Truth be told Cyberpunk and anything Bethesda had are quite different. The value is in storytelling vs just stupid fun. Bethesda was never good at storytelling, I don't even think they make their games with it in mind. They're RPGs, the type where you forget about the main quest and derails into all kinds of significant/insignificant side missions where you just want to progress your character. They usually rely on that, world lore, and faction politics to keep you invested. Doesn't even have cutscenes. So who's to say cyberpunk is better than Skyrim? Hmmm you already argued that apparently "bugs are subjective." Which makes little sense. Then I guess you ought to also think that "which one is better is subjective." - pretty much nullifying this whole conversation.
To be fair when i played rust for the first time it took me nearly 60 hours of gameplay to craft my first gun. Thats 60 hours of learning not to use wood doors, not to use twig foundations, not to build in the cold environment, not to build near a clan etc. I think its probably the only game I've ever played where it took that much suffering to find enjoyment.
14:10 some planets have 8 animal species and 8 plant species. Look for planets that have fauna tagged as “abundant”. All 8 will not be the same biome though. You will have to select different landing zones and see what the biome says. “Mountains”, “deciduous forest”, “rocky desert”, “savannah”, etc. When you find a planet with “abundant” fauna, select very hard difficult before landing. This will load in tons of high level alien species. Now, once on the surface, out of your ship, select very easy difficultly. You can boost your levels by just killing alien species. Level 70 cockroach thing or herbivore gives you the same XP as killing a level 70 human with armor and a gun.
For the "two games in one" comment, the way is see it is; one game is the sandbox you never ng+ and it's fallout in space. The second game is a roguelike in which you constantly ng+ after upgrading your powers to constantly keep getting stronger and stronger.
Not going to lie, I’ve only put 6 hours in and I love it. I think if you were given ground vehicles it would be even better. I legit couldn’t complain about it.
@@Hyper-Shock Per load. So it's 2... plus 2, plus 2, plus 2, plus 2 and NOW you got to your destination after several fast travels.... It adds up my man. Or, I can just go fly where ever I want in any other space game and load if I go to a new system only.
@@thedarksalmon9893 going from far left to far right of the galaxy takes 2 secs than I'm running around doing missions, so no its 2 secs one time for traveling.
I'm enjoying the game, but I'm not gonna tell people it's a good game, because it isn't. So many game design flaws. So much empty content. So many loading screens and limitations. Lots of immersion breaking elements. Lots of terrible gunplay and AI. Still I'm enjoying it. I'm a sucker for base and vehicle building. I'll enjoy it more when mods come out. I'm glad I didn't pay for it (someone gifted me 18 months of game pass). So I guess that's why I'm cool with pointing out the flaws while still playing the game.
I played starfield for 25+ hours then i jumped into cyberpunk 2077 for the first time and boy do i feel like i wasted those 25+ hours on a shitty game, cyberpunk is how imagined the quality of games would have become in 2023 and starfield is much much less than that, i wouldn't even go back to it later
I don't dislike the game from what I've played so far, it's just not very well optimized for my system (not running a potato, but my 1080ti is starting to show it's age a bit I think) so it's difficult to play with constant frame drops and harsh stuttering
I respect Shroud the guy is an insane FPS player. But I'm going to be real, his takes on single player games are trash. The fact that Starfield is a 7/10 game to him is insane when its one of the worst AAA games released this year. If midfield is a 7, baldur's gate 3 is a 70/10
I personally enjoyed it a whole bunch, especially given that it's on game pass. I do understand that it can be mildly boring at times however I haven't seen that many glitches, especially none that are all that game breaking. I think a lot of people just go in with a negative mindset and they look for any and every reason to hate the game. Also I'll never understand the people that hate the game yet haven't even played it. Go in with a positive mindset and try to get immersed, it's genuinely a good time. Hope everyone has a lovely day! Enjoy your gaming gamers.
@Juan800PimpBot Also, even if I did spend $70 on it, I would have loved it all the same. Your belief that my amount of enjoyment would have been altered in any way is simply wrong. All the same, I wish you the best!
@@Juan800PimpBot Also, I wouldn't be calling anyone a kid when you've got a name like that. "Juan800PimpBot" lmao. Best to act less dickish when someone is being kind to you fr.
Adding on to my earlier replies, anyone paying bills would most certainly pick gamepass over spending $70 on a game these days. You got some growing to do before you figure that out though. Best of luck!
for me it's been a great year for gaming. i've been rotating starfield, bg3, armored core, and cyberpunk 2077+expansion dlc with around 50 or more hours in each having beat armored core twice and on the second new game plus. cyberpunk i've already beaten the main campaign and having a blast with the expansion so far. bg3 i'm nearing the end of act 2 within the last parts of gauntlet of shar. in starfield, i'm genuinely surprised i'm having fun logging the most hours on it only because i've been building outposts and ships having barely touched the main campaign and am busy looting and exploring, highjacking other ships and selling them of and getting side track with surprisingly great side missions.
My experience was first quest “kill the boss of space pirate” the boss is death inside of a room that I can’t open because I killed shooting across the door.
As much fun as I've had in this game and as much as it absolutely gets right... it gets plenty of things wrong, too: exploration becoming tedious because of the procedural generation taking away the fun of finding unique things out in "the wild" (and lots of running/boosting in between with nothing to find except resources), the overabundance of ballistic weapons versus the very few energy and melee options, the melee weapons being the exact same gameplay-wise (no difference in attack speed versus damage, no two-handed melee weapons, no shields) and not having the ability to properly mod them, the core companions all being do-gooders without any appreciable differences between them when it comes to making choices (where are the morally grey/flat-out bad guy companions, and where the hell are factional companions?!), the lack of a survival mode, and the removal of the VATS-style combat function when it makes even more sense than it does in Fallout and we even have a goddamned scanner all stand out to me as disappointments and massive missed opportunities.
Why do people expected "exploration" to be any different? I mean its space bro. Its mostly empty, and furthermore its an already explored part of space with most likely nothing unique or exotic left to find out. Did you really expect to find vigilent of stendarr roaming the lands looking out for the vampire menace every 250 metters? Space doesnt work like that you dont just "walk out" your outpost to wander around, or land on a random and deadly planet hoping you'll find something out.
@@m.poppins4843 "Its mostly empty, and furthermore its an already explored part of space with most likely nothing unique or exotic left to find out" ...Yes. That is in fact the point. It's too realistic. That makes it boring. A boring game is not fun. A game that is not fun is not worth playing. Believe it or not, realism doesn't trump everything, especially in video games. Fun is more important and the realism comes at the (severe) expense of fun when it comes to the exploration or lack thereof.
The only folks with less creativity than people working at Triple A game studios are the online content creators who produce reviews about the games they create. It’s the same shit over and over and everyone’s in a contest to show me who the most impossibly cynical nerd can be.
What lol. I dont get how shroud can openly admit he hasn't watched many dunkey vids, yet he has all these specifications for how they should be? PLUS dunkey's starfield vid was hilarious, if you don't get it then you won't get it, or you just haven't watched enough dunkey overall
I got about 100 hours into the game and I did the same as Fallout 4. I stopped and realized after about 80 hours in "Oh crap I forgot about the main quest" So I started doing it again. Its ok. But after 100 hours in I started thinking about my other space games. Then I started playing those again. I will probably go back to it in this week but My other space games are so much fun to me its hard playing another game. A lot of these content creators I feel didn't play the game enough. Same as with Fallout 76 people were saying it was the worst game ever ect ect. I played the hell out of that game and I am finding new stuff all the time and once I understood how the game worked I really started having fun. I feel like a lot of people that crap on new games dont have a lot of time into the game. I do criticize some games but one of the ones I criticize i actually have 3k hours in.
i feel like Cohh's take was "don't expect anything, don't get dissapointed". But i believe thats why we keep getting mediocre games, Starfield was suposed to be like a new age for microsoft games, we got the same crusty engine from ages ago running fallout 4 in space.
funny how you protect Starfield so much "They show just the bad things" so where people show just the good things of a "Mass Effect Andromeda" "Cyberpunk 2077" "Hogwards Legacy" "Elden Ring" and so on, first you see just the bad things but in Starfield they missleaded people to get as much Pre orders as possible, Bethesda and Microsoft themselfs Hyped the game and promised the people a good experience and allone the reviews that was 100% fake who show 10/10 or 5/5 or even 9/10 or 4/5 will be too much for that game. Starfield made the combat a lil bit better in some points but that the enemys are bullet Sponges is crazy in a RPG where you are roleplaying and did not build the DPS build just to sit there for like 5 - 15 minutes to shoot a enemy and see how slow his life drains meanwhile the AI is bugged out for the Enemy or they shoot you from miles away when i was thinking "holy i cant even see you or aim via my Scope". The System Requirements that this game is eating is strange, this outdated graphic and this lack in AI and this small maps compare to other Bethesda games, and this huge Hardware Hungry game ? Loading screens that are as long as in cyberpunk 2077 ( yes CB2077 has them if you start the game or do fast travel), but you will have them like 1 - 2x in a hour, meanwhile in Starfield you will see the loading screen like 30 times in the first hour and 30 is the lowest number i took. The time when i figured out how the ship building was working i had already 30 hours in this game, when i saw that i can just click on the mission and fly to that system without Going from a Building to the ship, enter it and fly in to the space then to the system you want to but because you can not fly that faar you have to fly to other systems before so how many loading screens it took me just to get to the mission ? yes about 9 if you are lucky and dont took the wrong door or Teleport point on the way to your ship. The Jetpack was something i never experienced because i never got the perk that for and i did not know why i can not use the Jetpack before, i was even looking in the menu for keybinding where the key was for the JP but did not found it. Then i started a new Game because i found out that the ship i want to use is useless or i can not use things because i dont has the perks so i started a new game, this time i chose the parents perk and i never found them again because i did not wanted to go to such amount of loading screens and slow walking to find them, yes i can google that but still i want to explore and not to google if i play a game. the first planet i landed on was nice, i was thinking yes now i explore some caves or something like i did in Fallout 4 ... after like 20 minutes of walking around i saw how bad it was, scanned every monster and every Mineral and it was pointless. The Missions are so boring and i dont want to do them because they are boring, the speach system is so boring that i dont want to use it and if i fail because i go the "I want to fly the ship Route Skill Tree" i dont care. Then i had my Side Mission quest where i had to fight like 20 ships and all i can do is doing nothing, after like 3 hours of trying i found out if i hide behind a Small Station, i can shoot the other ships and they can not hit me, the Space Ship Combad is so bad and feel so bad that i had the feeling to play the first starcomander ever made when i remembered how awesome the space combad in NoManSky was. Then i build my first base and again, nobody tells you how to do it or where to get anything, then i gave it up because when the game lacks in teaching you mechanics so why i has to put efford to google it how it is working when the devs themself gave a damn how they are working. This was really the last Bethesda game i ever got pre release or even at launch day, the disapointment is there and games like Mass Effect or Cyberpunk 2077 or NoManSky Got destroyed that they did not deliver a good game, meanwhile when i see people speak about Starfield like you do "Yea the game is good, not a 9/10 but a mid game". The game was standard 8 years ago at max. but in 2023 this game is so outdated and so bad made with so less efford in to it that it is more a scam then even GOLUM was, because the developer of GOLUM never Hyped ther game like Bethesda or Microsoft did with Starfield.
I’m over 100 hours in and still learning things about the game I didn’t know yesterday. Yes, there are issues however I’ve already gotten more than my moneys worth and still going.
@@ceshmate1953 dude your talking to someone who has played most Bethesda games and will say this, Cyberpunk 2077 on the PS4 at launch was more captivating
my problem with starfield and i have like 70 hours on it is that, i expected to basically be whatever i wanted to be and granted i can do that a bit, but i cant choose whichever faction to join, you can just join all of them and you have no problems whatsoever, you can do bad shit and it doesnt really matter, you are always with constellation which is the most limiting factor, the fact that you're instantly pressed to join said faction or group and they're basically always hounding you, i only got the first of the "powers" and to be honest, i forgot they existed even after unlocking them i used them i think once, no interior customization of ships (unless you do some custom commands) no real what feels like endgame, yes you can design ships, yet you are still limited by that 80 meters (which is long dont get me wrong) but i cant wait till i can basically build my own capital starbase ship (if that ever becomes a thing), and even with thousands of planets only 5 actual like manufacturers means you can always look to the same pallet of stuff, only the exterior is what changes, i hate the same fucking docking and landing animations over and over, honestly just give me a fucking black screen for 3 seconds longer, i dislike the fact that you need to register a ship before you can sell it, (i stole this ship from pirates aint nobody gonna be like thats my ship why the fuck do i need to register it to sell it), selling items on 1 ship doesnt put them in your general like ship inventory only in that certain ship inventory, you dont get full money back even if you just bought it and if you basically deleted and made an entire new ship and exit out, all the parts you had before are gone, they're just gone to the void, its a fun game it just has a bunch of flaws that make it boring
I'm at 50 hours and I agree. Too many gaps everywhere, like what is with only having 3 energy weapons? Or useless melee with no difference between weapons despite dmg numbers, no speed, no upgrades. Enemies with eyes on their backs despite having full stealth build. Only 6 turrets max for a base, useless fuel system, having 50 ly grav drives despite needing 21-27 at most. Almost no skins for weapons. And the NPCs... I could seriously opt for just pure text and speech screen and never see their faces ever again.
I swear, it’s like people automatically forgot the 100’s of times these game companies have over sold their games. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice and it’s my own fucking fault. Learn to lower your expectations when it comes to video games and you’ll be pleasantly surprised much more than disappointed. Is that the way it should be? No but it’s how it is and people should know this by now.
I think people comprehend that its more than just the story, they just don't like the game in general. "The story gets better after 12 hours? But the game just kinda sucks and is empty and boring and even the arguably coolest feature of ship crafting doesn't save it."
I agree with Bethesda not doing much new with Starfield outside of visuals and worldbuilding to advance their RPG format. All the new stuff is tacked-on or just weak. The modular building of ships with crew was really cool but has little function in the game, the planet-side base-building is just extra busy work and space flight is dogshit. I think it's a good game, certainly a good Bethesda game but the "new stuff" isn't the way to go. Inserting mini-games and things that are popular in other games didn't improve the game at all, if anything they hindered my enjoyment and distracted from what is otherwise a pretty good RPG.
i don't know how shroud could defend a shit game. he's lying to himself and it feels like he is paid often to say things about games or he has some connection that won't allow him to be honest....
Main story never gets good, unfortunately. In fact, I'd argue it gets EVEN WORSE the further you go because it fails to do anything a storyline should do: namely explain the mystery box. But I see Jar Jar Abrams was in charge of the writing for SF so it's just a big mystery box... with no conclusion.
Toxic CoD players should stick with their shooter games and quit critiquing genres they don’t enjoy. I bought the game loved it and I basically stopped listening to these UA-camr wannabes with nothing good to say about anything.
theres one sidequest, and i guess minor spoilers, but basically there was a corrupt official, i gave the shit to the guards to show, they were like alright we're gonna arrest him, and 30 hours later that corrupt official is still sitting there smiling all happily, i expected some skyrim guard to come in and say "HEY YOU THERE, YOURE UNDER ARREST FOR ""insert crime here"" and the guy being like, WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS, but no, nothing, lame as hell,
I disagree with him on the 10/10 rating score. 10/10 does not and should not mean perfect. A 10/10 is something I would consider amazing. A masterpiece. And a masterpiece does not mean absolutely perfect. With that said, I wouldn't rate Starfield a 10/10. It feels more like a 8/10 to me. I've been enjoying the game immensely and it's pretty much exactly what I expected, a Bethesda style RPG, but in space. But it fails to implement many QoL features, I find the procedural generation boring, and I was personally affected by numerous bugs that prevented me from completing some (side)quests. If these concerns were addressed prior to release, this game could've easily been a 9/10 to me.
I completely agree about the main story, but holy shit all of the faction side quests, and a lot of the other side quests, are absolute bangers. The whole UC quest could have been it's own game.
The way I look at the map is I feel like it's a scan of the world. Your watch scans the terrain and that's the map. You scan the surface of a planet and that's your local map more less.
Some side quests can softlock you,loading screens,Emil's writing as a whole, dialog options are 3 "correct" ones 4th where you are dick and 5th where you ask question about topic, choices don't matter in 95% situations,gunplay falout 4, game optimization even on stronger rigs is sad,cant fly a ship,cant land a ship in a game about space and exploration,AI reacts to nothing if you could pull out nuclear warhead and point that at people they would not care, meanwhile stealing cup of coffee you get a headshot...
So many negative reviews out there, makes me sad these people didn’t get to experience this game for what is was because they got so caught up it what they wanted it to be. Still has so much potential to grow into one of the best games of this generation without a doubt.
If they can do like cyberpunk, who turned their tables and the game is actually Amazing now, then they’ll be a step above, as for now, the game is one of the lamest trash I ever played, uninstalled it after 22 hrs and will be getting dust on my library.
It doesnt even compared to cyberpunk or RDR2 how can you say its the best of a Generation ?? and lets keep it 100... its a fast travel, shooter with bethesda level of dialog . BORING
to say this game had too small of a dev cycle is crazy. It took 8 years for it to come out. If you can't make a fleshed out and well made game in almost a decade of time being a studio backed by Microsoft of all things then maybe you're just not a good game studio. Shroud just really wanted to glaze a polished turd here when besides the combat improvements, Bethesda regressed on quality in every other part of this game.
I don’t know about his summer books. Haha you could ask him from them. Also you can’t flame the 12 hours thing as like if some one does not clarify what gets better after 12 hours then how would they know. So clearing it up is the only right thing there, and after that if they still use it then you blame them for miss interpreting what was said. Other wise they don’t have the knowledge to know.
I mean it's a good game. Is what it is. People don't like the Long stories and slower pace.... unfortunately can't please everyone, I remember when The New Dead Island came out everyone hated it because it was too "short" and they just didn't like the gameplay. But regardless everyone will complain about a game that they have no actual interest in.
Was marketed for years as huge open galaxy, cites and planets. Its not open world, not even open cities. Shooting is fun for awhile, i only use no gravity magic, dont know why to use the others. Pretty graphics, nice photos to take, no idea why if its not open world and so many loading screens it cant do 60FPS, but at least 30 feels ok. Exploration is painful, have to use crappy jet packs and get hurt constantly, no vehicles and mining makes no profit or sense at all.
My guess is that Bethesda put a lot of initial work into this game with their Stone Age engine, so they stuck with it even after they knew how limiting it would be.
8 years in development is not pretty fast compared to what we got for BG3 (6 years) with almost the exact same employee count, bg3 100 million budget while starfield is over 200 million budget... we got blank faces and loading screens.
the problem is their engine architecture. For some reason they stuck with cell based worlds in an age an undergrad student can build background loading mechanics to provide a seamless experience -_-
Loving the game but there are a lot of weird shortcomings. Mods fix some. Airlock doors are the worst design.... like just have them slide in and out with a puff of vapor...instead its like a garbage truck lifting and emptying a dumpster every time.
Part of me hates the exclusivity because I wanted to give it a try, but at the same time, I feel like I'd be disappointed because based on what I saw, it gives fallout 4 vibes, and I'm not a fan of sci-fi at all, so I don't think I'd care much for it.
dood, everywhere is exactly the same. EXACTLY, land on some random planet then 500m away some starship lands on cue, go to some building or cave OH WOW identical as last.
They used the exact same enginge to make this game as they used in Skyrim. They updated it, and they added AI and some other things, it's way less buggy then it used to be. But with this game we just need to expect that there will be bugs on launch. However I've had a great experience so far 26 hours in and have owned the game for 5 days, I'm addicted and sucked into it. However, I have only done the first 4 campaign missions. I keep getting distracted by the faction missions and the exploration factor. 9/10 Can't put it down
No Man's Skyrim.
Never understood the skyrim take at all... Its like fallout. not skyrim?
Just play no man's sky and that's it
dragon born meet starborn@@jaxonhines3387
But I want 100+ hours of flying!!
It really doesn't have the freedom of no man's sky and the wow factor of skyrim
holy shit Shroud is coping so hard for this game
Ikr it’s sooo goddam boring after 50 hours
TRUE 😂🤣🤣
True brother
Anytime moist criticised starfield: "ok Charlie was right so far, but he is wrong about this part"
Bro wants that es6 early acess so bad.
"They did a VERRY good job at generation" like bruh are you even playing the same game?
I think we can all agree that Starfield is objectively a video game. And it’s playable on Xbox and PC. No doubt, this is definitely a real video game
is there anything bethesda did "very well" or ambitious in this game ? so right, it is a game...
It’s so strange to see Shroud be such an apologist over a game that is so far from being the home run that gamers thought it would be. Not saying it’s a terrible game, but his takes around this game are so very confusing.
A lot of streamers they'll talk about how it's dated the AI is terrible the graphic quality and art is inconsistent in quality the combat is bad so on so forth. I feel if it wasn't Bethesda this would be rated no more than a 7 max by most reviewers and streamers they are expected the modders to make it a 8-10 which is honestly pretty fucked up that is the expectation that unpaid gamers have to fix AAA games right out the box.
Shroud's opinions are usually terrible. He just said valorant is the top fps and CS2 is "easier". Don't know why people listen to him that much
It’s called “paid advertising “ I get it shroud make that money but it sucks seeing sellouts.
@@daviddubois4051 in cs you only walk and pre-aim spots, in valorant you have to use skills/spells which makes you think in what situation to use them, yes cs is easier.. valorant is basically more chaotic and random, or are you saying that it's really hard to throw a grenade/molotov in cs?.. honestly for me cs is so simple that it's really hard to play repetitively, but for older players it's probably better.
@@daviddubois4051 thats just the truth tho cs2 is definetly easier then valo..like its not even a question
The cope is strong with this one
I think the "12 hours" thing is to make you not eligible for a refund 😂
Steam's refund policy has a 2 hour limit. The 12 hour thing is just an article headliner stating that players said that it gets good after the first 12 hours.
@@Wolta ….. he knows. Hence the comment.
Homeboy is copeing hard
what was he coping about?
"i respect him so much for not saying it's bad."??? yes not telling me what is wrong with a potential purchase is what i value in my reviewers. truly one of the qualities of all time.
I don't know what part of the video you're talking about, but if he said that because someone didn't like the game, but didn't say it's bad, then I don't see the problem. This game is to good to be called "bad". The only thing that is bad is the first 10 hours of the main story. It does a complete 180 after that, and it becomes a good story.
I don't agree with Shroud when he says that the first 6 hours is the game, because that's only technically true. You see a lot of the gameplay aspects (not all of them), but learning things until they stop being overwhelming, and having having some basic perks, does make the game feel a lot better, because you finally understand what you're doing and you start having fun. There's a lot to learn at the beggining, and it is more overwhelming than fun. It's kinda like start playing League Of Legends by yourself. Your first match is never going to be your best match. You don't know what's going on. You may like what you see, but it gets much better once you understand it.
"I fKiNg hAtE tHiS gAeM! hOw DaRe ThEy'Re NoT caLL iT's BaD! REEEEEEEE!!1!!!!"
There are a lot of games which require patience and once the world opens up it's too good. Red dead redemption 2 is a big example of that.
Yeah starfield is not it. Nothing to do with patience,It's just flat out boring.
Now xbox boys don't come after me and cry, this is my opinion. You are entitled to yours
Also on the map topic. I have a damn map on my phone now how can we not see a map on this universe?
What blows my mind is how unimaginative the entire universe 300 years from today is. There's no vision here, just an "nasa" aesthetic and people just randomly plopping scl-fi cliche cities and colonies around the universe, but nobody really has anything to do. They're living more boring lives than we are.
Weird thing is it's actually a huge step back from Skyrim, how they managed that I'll never know.
The fact that a whole planet has a max of 5 species is insane to me
If it’s a few planets its ok. If its every planet than you are as dead right as your picture.
@@arbiter8246 5 is the max most have around 3. It's wild.
The fact that you do not understand how game development works is insane. How big do you want the game to be 400gig?
@beanpwnz there's a few planets with as much as 12 from what I've played
@@beanpwnz I'd probably ask for a refund then and go play Galactic Deep Rock or something....
You're right with what you said about the story vs the gameplay. Gameplay seems quite nice, but even just wathcing videos of the main story quests it seems like a MASSIVE sleeperfest.
The gameplay is fighting the same enemies you fought in the tutorial 99.9% of the time. And walking, lots of walking, and fast traveling. And uh...talking to npcs?
Content isn't gameplay. That's the issue with open world games in general.
Your guns doesn’t even shoot where you point there’s barely any weapons as it is and melee weapons are useless
Not at all
The story is amazing
I already just knew to some extent shroud knew about charlie, but I wasn't expecting a rowdyshrowdy video like this. Been watching Charlie since his "erie" playthrough 10 years ago
Charlie is an OG UA-camr.. back when I started watching him he was doing infomercial voice overs that were absolutely hilarious.. I’m 27 and I’ve been watching him since I was like 14 😂😂
@@eTWreksame aha. Watching charlie back in the day was the reason i made an account to sub to his videos. Dude is just unapologetically himself and im here for it 🤟
The fitness challenge isn't bugged, but it is poorly described. You have to fill up the red CO2 bar from full O2, 20 times, not just run down the O2 bar
seems it is an IQ challenge for some people
Not even full red. Just get the red to halfway.
@@casen_7349Ive only gotten it to proc once Ive started taking damage from a hernia.
27:16 This is such a bone head take. When a game gets a 10, nobody is claiming that it's perfect and flawless. How do you not know this?
Having said that, Starfield is a 6/10 at best.
I feel like i am genuinly the only person who fully expected starfield to simply be Skyrim/Fallout, set in space... Like i expected that from the start, was still hyped for it, and got exactly what i wanted.
I have been a massive fan of bethesda since playing Morrowind and Oblivion on the original Xbox and again on PC, and i loved Fallout 3 and Skyrim on Xbox 360. And enjoyed Fallout 4 on PC.
I also happen to be a massive fan of the space sim genra, games like Elite Dangerous, Star Citizen, No Man Skyes, i mean honestly the list of good space sims is long.
My point is I knew this wasn't going to be a space sim going in, as much as i would have liked it to be.
To really explore that genra you would have to sacrifice other elements of gameplay such as role playing, and to really explore the 1st person RPG genra you would have to sacrifice other elements such as the space sim side of it.
Boils down to the game could have been a great 1st Person RPG, or a great Space Sim, or a mediocre Space Sim/1st Person RPG, that kinda fails at both,
You can't make a game that is every genra all at once and great at every genra, its not going to work. Space Sims are complex enough to warrent their own games as are 1st Person RPG's
In the end Bethesda set out to make a Bethesda style, 1st person RPG, set in space with a focus on role playing. Just like eldercrolls, just like fallout, but set in space.... Thats exactly what they said, thats exactly what i expected, thats exactly what i got.
You’re right but a lot of people overhyped this game like it was the game of the generation. So since it was massively overhyped people are let down
@@angelgomez7081 Yeah, which is fair and i totally get it
I agree with your take, additionally...
I think part of the negativity around this game is people playing this game on their PC/monitor. This isn't a competitive game, this is meant to be played with a controller while sitting on your couch.
Play it on a 65" OLED w/ surround sound and you'll get more enjoyment out of the game.
@@taylorhickman84 I totally agree. tho i'll admit i do play it on my PC/Monitor. But i do like to sit back, occasionally pull out the controller, and just relax when i play.
I'm one of those players who likes to put themselves in the headspace of their character and embrace the role playing aspect of the game.
I feel like alot of the negatrivitly doesn't comes from what the game actualy is, which is great, but from what poeple wanted it to be.
@@sunsoar1822Yeah people need to temper their expectations, but a lot of the detractors are just drama queens.
One guy in the comments said he logged 80 hours, but rates it a 5/10. I don't know about the majority, but a 5/10 isn't gettin more than a couple hours of my time.
I usually agree with Charlie on 99% of what he says, but I have to disagree with him. Sometimes you land on a planet, and there's nothing around for like a mile. I landed on a planet and like 6 or 7 POIs spawned within 1000m of where my ship landed. There was a colony outpost where I snuck behind the vendor and stole some really decent weapons. There was this lady with a pet animal, after we talked I stole her Wendigo spaceship. There was this group of Freestar Smugglers at a Oil Control Pipe site, where you can lie and say you are the person they're waiting for and you can take off with the items they give you, there was a Pirate Outpost where when I got there, a Spacers spaceship landed and they got into conflict and I joined in then stole their spaceship, there was so much stuff to do just within the radius of where I landed. It just depends on what POIs are generated when you land. With that being, I do understand how some planets are empty, but that's what it would be like on a lot of them if you were to travel to most planets. Yes, some will most likely have life, but a lot of them will be like that.
Ive completed the main story and every side quest I could find... reached level 54.
While I did enjoy it... its absolutely not a "great" game... mods will make it a lot better but there are so many "shallow" aspects to it that just absolutely wreck the immersion/fullness of it for me.
Most realistic take yet.
@@netwatcherer You just complained about your own comment. Crazy.
Cope harder the only sheep are the ones buying triple AAA mods slapped on top of Fallout 4 eight years for this is laughable. Hoping modders will fix this joke 🤣
When modders fix the game it'll be great 🙈🤣
@@Juan800PimpBotyou called him a sheep yet you sound like everyone dissing the game, so what’s ur point…
Most boring game I’ve personally played, I’m glad I didn’t pay for it. Fallout in space without VATS, gore, and most other things that made fallout actually fun. It’s also the least RPG role playing game I’ve ever played, you can really only be space man Dan. 95% of quests can only be done one way. 😢💩
that fact that it takes 12 hours is the problem. they don't care that it gets good. we have a problem with it taking 12 hours....
I love how shroud reacts to the videos instead of just watching it and just gasping or laughing, he's really adding his opinion on someone else's video.
This is the same reason I watch Asmongold's reactions, he 's been doing this format for years.
this video should've been called "shroud defends starfield from any reviewers or any opinion"
Real
Dude, the horizontal boost by setting your 2nd jump keybind to LAlt is a lifesaver for faster traveling across worlds
after watching shroud d4 review and now this its obvious he wont say an game is bad even if he might think that in his mind 😦
He called halo shit in his halo video
Imagine that bruh
its called trying to remain sponser friendly, shroud became a shill unfortunately but its alright still a good content creator
@@svenningenYeah Shroud just has the worst takes ever, he's better off doing gamer plays than gamer opinions.
@@Juggs009 I mean his opinions are valid, it's just that when he has suggestions I don't think they necessarily have that much weight since his job basically demands him to move onto the next shiny thing in a week.
So while he has takes that reflect him blasting a game in a few days, they might not be the best for the games longevity. But sometimes he has good takes, and I especially respect his opinions on competitive shooters
"no game is 10/10"
BG3 might not be a 10. bit it is a 9.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
Every Open World games Should have RDR2 standards
With the amount of money in the industry it's pretty sad that THAT kind of quality is rare, like once in 5+ years rare
"lets make all the games the same" stupid comment.
He meant the quality of the game.....
Hell aw
As long as the story isnt as boring as RDR2 then i can see where your coming from from a world and mechanics standpoint.
I got to level 20 then forgot about it. Usually when I get a new game, for the first week or two, ill be thinking about it non stop and cant wait for my day to be over so i can go home and play. But that just never happened to me with starfield
Strange, the 2nd option happens to me. Still ongoing in the first playthrough.
@@Juan800PimpBot Wonder why there's so many hypocrtes who haven't even played it. Who knows how many of these are just mainstream herd mentality.
Just pirate the game bud, I did and it's a pretty decent game.
lies of p took over for me and I’ve been playing it nonstop.
@@kenz2756 For free fifty free how many times you going to defend this shit Fan boi you're like in fifty comments. Seems like if it was that great you'd be playing your pirated copy not wasting your time defending a game you aren't willing to even pay for 🙈😂
@@slothorne8222 I saw that game it looks interesting.
yea once you complete the main story and maybe a few faction stories, the game is pretty much spent. The whole base building aspect of the game is completely useless and not necessary.
it's useful for like a couple hours if you want to easily grind to level 60 or more.
It's pretty useful if you get into the crafting aspect. If anything I keep getting back to this game due to the progression and crafting. Hell I think that's why the game doesn't get spent so quickly, credits feel like it matters as well.
I've been playing since release and am still not done. And yet I pirated this game.
Buddy you've commented on like every other comment fucking fan boi spend more times in the comments defending this shit 🤣
I played the game for free on Gamepass, and I still feel like I got mugged off
Unironically Cyberpunk is the evolution of a Bethesda RPG. Cinematic, immersion levels in terms of the missions at least are way higher and it’s a way, way better game.
Not when it was a horrid record of bugfest.
@@kenz2756 Even then, of course it was. Not like past Bethesda games weren't as bad sometimes.
@@Quazzi LOL ni way man, you've got to have a short memory. The supposed cutscenes were ruined by flickerings and warping and what not. It's horrible, immersion is the least thing cyberpunk had, it was the first thing the bugs ruined.
@@kenz2756 Bugs are subjective, aside from crashing I had none. We're talking about the game itself, even with the bugs it was miles better than any Bethesda game if we ditch nostalgia.
@@Quazzi Oh sure, well how convenient that is for you huh? So let's just ditch that whole conversation then and start with this one, for you.
Cyberpunk was ok, i wouldn't say it was a game changer either. Story was too short. Side quests were pretty lackluster save for a few especially pertaining to the ally relationship quests. Truth be told Cyberpunk and anything Bethesda had are quite different. The value is in storytelling vs just stupid fun.
Bethesda was never good at storytelling, I don't even think they make their games with it in mind. They're RPGs, the type where you forget about the main quest and derails into all kinds of significant/insignificant side missions where you just want to progress your character. They usually rely on that, world lore, and faction politics to keep you invested. Doesn't even have cutscenes.
So who's to say cyberpunk is better than Skyrim? Hmmm you already argued that apparently "bugs are subjective." Which makes little sense. Then I guess you ought to also think that "which one is better is subjective." - pretty much nullifying this whole conversation.
To be fair when i played rust for the first time it took me nearly 60 hours of gameplay to craft my first gun. Thats 60 hours of learning not to use wood doors, not to use twig foundations, not to build in the cold environment, not to build near a clan etc. I think its probably the only game I've ever played where it took that much suffering to find enjoyment.
14:10 some planets have 8 animal species and 8 plant species. Look for planets that have fauna tagged as “abundant”. All 8 will not be the same biome though. You will have to select different landing zones and see what the biome says. “Mountains”, “deciduous forest”, “rocky desert”, “savannah”, etc.
When you find a planet with “abundant” fauna, select very hard difficult before landing. This will load in tons of high level alien species. Now, once on the surface, out of your ship, select very easy difficultly. You can boost your levels by just killing alien species. Level 70 cockroach thing or herbivore gives you the same XP as killing a level 70 human with armor and a gun.
For the "two games in one" comment, the way is see it is; one game is the sandbox you never ng+ and it's fallout in space. The second game is a roguelike in which you constantly ng+ after upgrading your powers to constantly keep getting stronger and stronger.
"modders will fix it for us"
22:10 theres no way they could wait another 2 years even if they wanted to. GTA VI would be out around the same time and absolutely destroy them sales
Not going to lie, I’ve only put 6 hours in and I love it. I think if you were given ground vehicles it would be even better. I legit couldn’t complain about it.
some people like loading screen sims
@@DMsubble 2 secs thats it
@@Hyper-Shock Per load. So it's 2... plus 2, plus 2, plus 2, plus 2 and NOW you got to your destination after several fast travels.... It adds up my man.
Or, I can just go fly where ever I want in any other space game and load if I go to a new system only.
@@thedarksalmon9893 that has to be the dumbest thing I have ever read, like holy shit.
@@thedarksalmon9893 going from far left to far right of the galaxy takes 2 secs than I'm running around doing missions, so no its 2 secs one time for traveling.
I'm enjoying the game, but I'm not gonna tell people it's a good game, because it isn't. So many game design flaws. So much empty content. So many loading screens and limitations. Lots of immersion breaking elements. Lots of terrible gunplay and AI. Still I'm enjoying it. I'm a sucker for base and vehicle building. I'll enjoy it more when mods come out. I'm glad I didn't pay for it (someone gifted me 18 months of game pass). So I guess that's why I'm cool with pointing out the flaws while still playing the game.
Probably the most level-headed take I've read tbh
Finally a good take
Found a planet with 7 Fauna today.
Mass effect: Andromeda had a buggy on your ship yonks ago lol. Theres not enough life/interest on each planet to walk everywhere.
I played starfield for 25+ hours then i jumped into cyberpunk 2077 for the first time and boy do i feel like i wasted those 25+ hours on a shitty game, cyberpunk is how imagined the quality of games would have become in 2023 and starfield is much much less than that, i wouldn't even go back to it later
I don't dislike the game from what I've played so far, it's just not very well optimized for my system (not running a potato, but my 1080ti is starting to show it's age a bit I think) so it's difficult to play with constant frame drops and harsh stuttering
I feel ya playing on a 1060 lol. For some reason turnin off FSR got me better performance, maybe it can help you too.
Shroud has the worst opinions on literally anything to ever exist. All of his brainpower is going to his reflexes.
I respect Shroud the guy is an insane FPS player. But I'm going to be real, his takes on single player games are trash. The fact that Starfield is a 7/10 game to him is insane when its one of the worst AAA games released this year. If midfield is a 7, baldur's gate 3 is a 70/10
I personally enjoyed it a whole bunch, especially given that it's on game pass. I do understand that it can be mildly boring at times however I haven't seen that many glitches, especially none that are all that game breaking. I think a lot of people just go in with a negative mindset and they look for any and every reason to hate the game. Also I'll never understand the people that hate the game yet haven't even played it. Go in with a positive mindset and try to get immersed, it's genuinely a good time. Hope everyone has a lovely day! Enjoy your gaming gamers.
Well since you didn't pay $70 for it then it's much easier to have a positive opinion.
@Juan800PimpBot Also, even if I did spend $70 on it, I would have loved it all the same. Your belief that my amount of enjoyment would have been altered in any way is simply wrong. All the same, I wish you the best!
@@Juan800PimpBot There's that negativity I was talking about. That's some childish stuff right there.
@@Juan800PimpBot Also, I wouldn't be calling anyone a kid when you've got a name like that. "Juan800PimpBot" lmao. Best to act less dickish when someone is being kind to you fr.
Adding on to my earlier replies, anyone paying bills would most certainly pick gamepass over spending $70 on a game these days. You got some growing to do before you figure that out though. Best of luck!
for me it's been a great year for gaming. i've been rotating starfield, bg3, armored core, and cyberpunk 2077+expansion dlc with around 50 or more hours in each having beat armored core twice and on the second new game plus. cyberpunk i've already beaten the main campaign and having a blast with the expansion so far. bg3 i'm nearing the end of act 2 within the last parts of gauntlet of shar. in starfield, i'm genuinely surprised i'm having fun logging the most hours on it only because i've been building outposts and ships having barely touched the main campaign and am busy looting and exploring, highjacking other ships and selling them of and getting side track with surprisingly great side missions.
My experience was first quest “kill the boss of space pirate” the boss is death inside of a room that I can’t open because I killed shooting across the door.
As much fun as I've had in this game and as much as it absolutely gets right... it gets plenty of things wrong, too: exploration becoming tedious because of the procedural generation taking away the fun of finding unique things out in "the wild" (and lots of running/boosting in between with nothing to find except resources), the overabundance of ballistic weapons versus the very few energy and melee options, the melee weapons being the exact same gameplay-wise (no difference in attack speed versus damage, no two-handed melee weapons, no shields) and not having the ability to properly mod them, the core companions all being do-gooders without any appreciable differences between them when it comes to making choices (where are the morally grey/flat-out bad guy companions, and where the hell are factional companions?!), the lack of a survival mode, and the removal of the VATS-style combat function when it makes even more sense than it does in Fallout and we even have a goddamned scanner all stand out to me as disappointments and massive missed opportunities.
Why do people expected "exploration" to be any different? I mean its space bro. Its mostly empty, and furthermore its an already explored part of space with most likely nothing unique or exotic left to find out. Did you really expect to find vigilent of stendarr roaming the lands looking out for the vampire menace every 250 metters? Space doesnt work like that you dont just "walk out" your outpost to wander around, or land on a random and deadly planet hoping you'll find something out.
@@m.poppins4843 Part of the reason is a guy named Todd Howard who was full of shit 😂
Please tell me what it gets right 😂😂😂
@@danielfierro6694 No thanks. I have my opinion, you have yours, and I'm not tryna argue with a stranger over personal tastes.
@@m.poppins4843 "Its mostly empty, and furthermore its an already explored part of space with most likely nothing unique or exotic left to find out"
...Yes. That is in fact the point. It's too realistic. That makes it boring. A boring game is not fun. A game that is not fun is not worth playing.
Believe it or not, realism doesn't trump everything, especially in video games. Fun is more important and the realism comes at the (severe) expense of fun when it comes to the exploration or lack thereof.
Coming out this close to Baldurs Gate 3 with a super-hyped mediocre RPG like this was a huge mistake IMHO...
The only folks with less creativity than people working at Triple A game studios are the online content creators who produce reviews about the games they create.
It’s the same shit over and over and everyone’s in a contest to show me who the most impossibly cynical nerd can be.
What lol. I dont get how shroud can openly admit he hasn't watched many dunkey vids, yet he has all these specifications for how they should be? PLUS dunkey's starfield vid was hilarious, if you don't get it then you won't get it, or you just haven't watched enough dunkey overall
Watching bugs in game "that's normal" 😂 what a take.
I got about 100 hours into the game and I did the same as Fallout 4. I stopped and realized after about 80 hours in "Oh crap I forgot about the main quest" So I started doing it again. Its ok. But after 100 hours in I started thinking about my other space games. Then I started playing those again. I will probably go back to it in this week but My other space games are so much fun to me its hard playing another game. A lot of these content creators I feel didn't play the game enough. Same as with Fallout 76 people were saying it was the worst game ever ect ect. I played the hell out of that game and I am finding new stuff all the time and once I understood how the game worked I really started having fun. I feel like a lot of people that crap on new games dont have a lot of time into the game. I do criticize some games but one of the ones I criticize i actually have 3k hours in.
The game kept reminding me by setting as the quest I was following every time I completed a side quest lol.
i feel like Cohh's take was "don't expect anything, don't get dissapointed". But i believe thats why we keep getting mediocre games, Starfield was suposed to be like a new age for microsoft games, we got the same crusty engine from ages ago running fallout 4 in space.
No map is lazy. No vehicles are incompetent.
"I think they want to innovate and do more" 🤣
starfield gameplay: "yeah, about that......."
funny how you protect Starfield so much "They show just the bad things" so where people show just the good things of a "Mass Effect Andromeda" "Cyberpunk 2077" "Hogwards Legacy" "Elden Ring" and so on, first you see just the bad things but in Starfield they missleaded people to get as much Pre orders as possible, Bethesda and Microsoft themselfs Hyped the game and promised the people a good experience and allone the reviews that was 100% fake who show 10/10 or 5/5 or even 9/10 or 4/5 will be too much for that game.
Starfield made the combat a lil bit better in some points but that the enemys are bullet Sponges is crazy in a RPG where you are roleplaying and did not build the DPS build just to sit there for like 5 - 15 minutes to shoot a enemy and see how slow his life drains meanwhile the AI is bugged out for the Enemy or they shoot you from miles away when i was thinking "holy i cant even see you or aim via my Scope".
The System Requirements that this game is eating is strange, this outdated graphic and this lack in AI and this small maps compare to other Bethesda games, and this huge Hardware Hungry game ?
Loading screens that are as long as in cyberpunk 2077 ( yes CB2077 has them if you start the game or do fast travel), but you will have them like 1 - 2x in a hour, meanwhile in Starfield you will see the loading screen like 30 times in the first hour and 30 is the lowest number i took.
The time when i figured out how the ship building was working i had already 30 hours in this game, when i saw that i can just click on the mission and fly to that system without Going from a Building to the ship, enter it and fly in to the space then to the system you want to but because you can not fly that faar you have to fly to other systems before so how many loading screens it took me just to get to the mission ? yes about 9 if you are lucky and dont took the wrong door or Teleport point on the way to your ship.
The Jetpack was something i never experienced because i never got the perk that for and i did not know why i can not use the Jetpack before, i was even looking in the menu for keybinding where the key was for the JP but did not found it.
Then i started a new Game because i found out that the ship i want to use is useless or i can not use things because i dont has the perks so i started a new game, this time i chose the parents perk and i never found them again because i did not wanted to go to such amount of loading screens and slow walking to find them, yes i can google that but still i want to explore and not to google if i play a game.
the first planet i landed on was nice, i was thinking yes now i explore some caves or something like i did in Fallout 4 ... after like 20 minutes of walking around i saw how bad it was, scanned every monster and every Mineral and it was pointless.
The Missions are so boring and i dont want to do them because they are boring, the speach system is so boring that i dont want to use it and if i fail because i go the "I want to fly the ship Route Skill Tree" i dont care.
Then i had my Side Mission quest where i had to fight like 20 ships and all i can do is doing nothing, after like 3 hours of trying i found out if i hide behind a Small Station, i can shoot the other ships and they can not hit me, the Space Ship Combad is so bad and feel so bad that i had the feeling to play the first starcomander ever made when i remembered how awesome the space combad in NoManSky was.
Then i build my first base and again, nobody tells you how to do it or where to get anything, then i gave it up because when the game lacks in teaching you mechanics so why i has to put efford to google it how it is working when the devs themself gave a damn how they are working.
This was really the last Bethesda game i ever got pre release or even at launch day, the disapointment is there and games like Mass Effect or Cyberpunk 2077 or NoManSky Got destroyed that they did not deliver a good game, meanwhile when i see people speak about Starfield like you do "Yea the game is good, not a 9/10 but a mid game".
The game was standard 8 years ago at max. but in 2023 this game is so outdated and so bad made with so less efford in to it that it is more a scam then even GOLUM was, because the developer of GOLUM never Hyped ther game like Bethesda or Microsoft did with Starfield.
Bruh the AI doesn't react when you pointing your gun in their face ! What the hell 🤣
I've never played a Bethesda game to the end until starfield.
Then your taste in story and RPG's is awful because the older games were far better excluding 76 OFC
Lol ok. OFC@@XxWolfxWaRioRxX
The only meshing issue I've had with the procedural generation has been 2 pieces of iron floating in the air
How’s it immersive to not have a map in a SCI FI GAME?
I’m over 100 hours in and still learning things about the game I didn’t know yesterday. Yes, there are issues however I’ve already gotten more than my moneys worth and still going.
"this dunkey video is not great"
also shroud
laughs during the whole video and smiles and seems to like it
The first few hours was kind of boring especially at my pace, but after awhile it grew on me so much and now I love it, I can’t stop playing it 😂
Pathetic
ahh yes the classic "12 hours to get to the fun" type game
@@kei5743 The main story is trash, the planets are boring. Combat is lacking. I don't know where this guy is getting his fun from.
@@ceshmate1953 dude your talking to someone who has played most Bethesda games and will say this, Cyberpunk 2077 on the PS4 at launch was more captivating
my problem with starfield and i have like 70 hours on it is that, i expected to basically be whatever i wanted to be and granted i can do that a bit, but i cant choose whichever faction to join, you can just join all of them and you have no problems whatsoever, you can do bad shit and it doesnt really matter, you are always with constellation which is the most limiting factor, the fact that you're instantly pressed to join said faction or group and they're basically always hounding you, i only got the first of the "powers" and to be honest, i forgot they existed even after unlocking them i used them i think once, no interior customization of ships (unless you do some custom commands) no real what feels like endgame, yes you can design ships, yet you are still limited by that 80 meters (which is long dont get me wrong) but i cant wait till i can basically build my own capital starbase ship (if that ever becomes a thing), and even with thousands of planets only 5 actual like manufacturers means you can always look to the same pallet of stuff, only the exterior is what changes, i hate the same fucking docking and landing animations over and over, honestly just give me a fucking black screen for 3 seconds longer, i dislike the fact that you need to register a ship before you can sell it, (i stole this ship from pirates aint nobody gonna be like thats my ship why the fuck do i need to register it to sell it), selling items on 1 ship doesnt put them in your general like ship inventory only in that certain ship inventory, you dont get full money back even if you just bought it and if you basically deleted and made an entire new ship and exit out, all the parts you had before are gone, they're just gone to the void, its a fun game it just has a bunch of flaws that make it boring
I'm at 50 hours and I agree. Too many gaps everywhere, like what is with only having 3 energy weapons? Or useless melee with no difference between weapons despite dmg numbers, no speed, no upgrades. Enemies with eyes on their backs despite having full stealth build. Only 6 turrets max for a base, useless fuel system, having 50 ly grav drives despite needing 21-27 at most. Almost no skins for weapons. And the NPCs... I could seriously opt for just pure text and speech screen and never see their faces ever again.
how do we refund
Hmm okay you gotta admit you have a lot of nitpicks there.
@@FreakGoatWhy did you buy it? Pirate it like I did, and it's a great game gotta say.
@@kenz2756 same I'm pirating ..I ain't paying shiet to Bethesda for this lazy game.
I swear, it’s like people automatically forgot the 100’s of times these game companies have over sold their games. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice and it’s my own fucking fault. Learn to lower your expectations when it comes to video games and you’ll be pleasantly surprised much more than disappointed. Is that the way it should be? No but it’s how it is and people should know this by now.
I think people comprehend that its more than just the story, they just don't like the game in general.
"The story gets better after 12 hours? But the game just kinda sucks and is empty and boring and even the arguably coolest feature of ship crafting doesn't save it."
There was another Xbox game that “Felt good to play” and was empty of content on release and that was Halo Infinite, we’ve come full circle boys
I agree with Bethesda not doing much new with Starfield outside of visuals and worldbuilding to advance their RPG format. All the new stuff is tacked-on or just weak. The modular building of ships with crew was really cool but has little function in the game, the planet-side base-building is just extra busy work and space flight is dogshit. I think it's a good game, certainly a good Bethesda game but the "new stuff" isn't the way to go. Inserting mini-games and things that are popular in other games didn't improve the game at all, if anything they hindered my enjoyment and distracted from what is otherwise a pretty good RPG.
i don't know how shroud could defend a shit game. he's lying to himself and it feels like he is paid often to say things about games or he has some connection that won't allow him to be honest....
Main story never gets good, unfortunately. In fact, I'd argue it gets EVEN WORSE the further you go because it fails to do anything a storyline should do: namely explain the mystery box. But I see Jar Jar Abrams was in charge of the writing for SF so it's just a big mystery box... with no conclusion.
Toxic CoD players should stick with their shooter games and quit critiquing genres they don’t enjoy. I bought the game loved it and I basically stopped listening to these UA-camr wannabes with nothing good to say about anything.
Starfield must have stolen a pound of indica from him.
@@BuckleNuckle made my day
theres one sidequest, and i guess minor spoilers, but basically there was a corrupt official, i gave the shit to the guards to show, they were like alright we're gonna arrest him, and 30 hours later that corrupt official is still sitting there smiling all happily, i expected some skyrim guard to come in and say "HEY YOU THERE, YOURE UNDER ARREST FOR ""insert crime here"" and the guy being like, WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS, but no, nothing, lame as hell,
He does get arrested and someone replaced him. His replacement will even give you a quest.
didnt know that@@ryansc0707
the game is trash, they somehow made a worse game in longer time with better tech and a bigger team, wild.
Nah, I already knew it will be like this, it's because they're an Rpg game company but they tried to build a boring realistic space game
@@yous2244RPG??? They barely can make those
@@thetruestar6348 Skyrim, fallouts, elder scrolls.....
I disagree with him on the 10/10 rating score. 10/10 does not and should not mean perfect. A 10/10 is something I would consider amazing. A masterpiece. And a masterpiece does not mean absolutely perfect.
With that said, I wouldn't rate Starfield a 10/10. It feels more like a 8/10 to me. I've been enjoying the game immensely and it's pretty much exactly what I expected, a Bethesda style RPG, but in space. But it fails to implement many QoL features, I find the procedural generation boring, and I was personally affected by numerous bugs that prevented me from completing some (side)quests. If these concerns were addressed prior to release, this game could've easily been a 9/10 to me.
I completely agree about the main story, but holy shit all of the faction side quests, and a lot of the other side quests, are absolute bangers. The whole UC quest could have been it's own game.
The way I look at the map is I feel like it's a scan of the world. Your watch scans the terrain and that's the map. You scan the surface of a planet and that's your local map more less.
Some side quests can softlock you,loading screens,Emil's writing as a whole, dialog options are 3 "correct" ones 4th where you are dick and 5th where you ask question about topic, choices don't matter in 95% situations,gunplay falout 4, game optimization even on stronger rigs is sad,cant fly a ship,cant land a ship in a game about space and exploration,AI reacts to nothing if you could pull out nuclear warhead and point that at people they would not care, meanwhile stealing cup of coffee you get a headshot...
So many negative reviews out there, makes me sad these people didn’t get to experience this game for what is was because they got so caught up it what they wanted it to be. Still has so much potential to grow into one of the best games of this generation without a doubt.
If they can do like cyberpunk, who turned their tables and the game is actually Amazing now, then they’ll be a step above, as for now, the game is one of the lamest trash I ever played, uninstalled it after 22 hrs and will be getting dust on my library.
It doesnt even compared to cyberpunk or RDR2 how can you say its the best of a Generation ?? and lets keep it 100... its a fast travel, shooter with bethesda level of dialog . BORING
You are so wrong bud
to say this game had too small of a dev cycle is crazy. It took 8 years for it to come out. If you can't make a fleshed out and well made game in almost a decade of time being a studio backed by Microsoft of all things then maybe you're just not a good game studio. Shroud just really wanted to glaze a polished turd here when besides the combat improvements, Bethesda regressed on quality in every other part of this game.
How are they misunderstanding? The main story isn’t even 12 hours long
It takes like 12hrs to get enough skills to feel like you have new abilities worth anything.
I don’t know about his summer books. Haha you could ask him from them.
Also you can’t flame the 12 hours thing as like if some one does not clarify what gets better after 12 hours then how would they know. So clearing it up is the only right thing there, and after that if they still use it then you blame them for miss interpreting what was said. Other wise they don’t have the knowledge to know.
damn ive never seen shroud cope this hard before
dead ass
Sponsored by starfield
I mean it's a good game. Is what it is. People don't like the Long stories and slower pace.... unfortunately can't please everyone, I remember when The New Dead Island came out everyone hated it because it was too "short" and they just didn't like the gameplay. But regardless everyone will complain about a game that they have no actual interest in.
i got 70 hours was addictive but also massive drainer, cyber punk was a much better game bugs an all
Was marketed for years as huge open galaxy, cites and planets. Its not open world, not even open cities. Shooting is fun for awhile, i only use no gravity magic, dont know why to use the others. Pretty graphics, nice photos to take, no idea why if its not open world and so many loading screens it cant do 60FPS, but at least 30 feels ok. Exploration is painful, have to use crappy jet packs and get hurt constantly, no vehicles and mining makes no profit or sense at all.
My guess is that Bethesda put a lot of initial work into this game with their Stone Age engine, so they stuck with it even after they knew how limiting it would be.
8 years in development is not pretty fast compared to what we got for BG3 (6 years) with almost the exact same employee count, bg3 100 million budget while starfield is over 200 million budget... we got blank faces and loading screens.
when it says 'Game Developers: Bethesda' its a stain you feel throughout the whole game, im tired of that feeling
Then don't play it? Its a Bethesda game, you buy a Bethesda game you're getting a Bethesda game. That's how it is
the problem is their engine architecture. For some reason they stuck with cell based worlds in an age an undergrad student can build background loading mechanics to provide a seamless experience -_-
THIS IS A SOUTH PARK EPISODE, WATCHING SOMEONE REACT TO REACTIONS
There’s no vehicles because the engine is shite
Loving the game but there are a lot of weird shortcomings. Mods fix some. Airlock doors are the worst design.... like just have them slide in and out with a puff of vapor...instead its like a garbage truck lifting and emptying a dumpster every time.
Part of me hates the exclusivity because I wanted to give it a try, but at the same time, I feel like I'd be disappointed because based on what I saw, it gives fallout 4 vibes, and I'm not a fan of sci-fi at all, so I don't think I'd care much for it.
the shilling for Bethesda is crazy by Shroud lmao
alright, i spoke too soon. he brought it back around lol
dood, everywhere is exactly the same. EXACTLY, land on some random planet then 500m away some starship lands on cue, go to some building or cave OH WOW identical as last.
in addition to the fauna counts, im currently on a planet with 12 fauna, and i think 10 flora
They used the exact same enginge to make this game as they used in Skyrim. They updated it, and they added AI and some other things, it's way less buggy then it used to be. But with this game we just need to expect that there will be bugs on launch. However I've had a great experience so far 26 hours in and have owned the game for 5 days, I'm addicted and sucked into it. However, I have only done the first 4 campaign missions. I keep getting distracted by the faction missions and the exploration factor. 9/10 Can't put it down
I would like to see more quests and factions added and in general more to do
Shroud isn't mad at dunkey, he's just disappointed