From a 32 year olds perspective that was really into gaming, and not as much anymore. I was told a few years ago, that life seems to go by faster the older you get. And the reason is you don't have as many "Firsts". Usually you remember the first time you do a certain thing. Drive a car, go to school, first girlfriend, ETC. You don't have as many firsts as you get older. The same could be said for gaming. When we were all younger experiencing all these new games for the first time, it was exciting, new, and fun. First time beating a game, first time getting together with your friends to play, first time playing a game online. We got older, its not as exciting anymore because we have experienced it all. Yea we still have good times in the moment, but not like our FIRST time. Our generation may feel that gaming isn't as fun anymore. But for the young kids out there, they may be having the time of their lives like we once did.
Well said and we all experienced our firsts together. The gaming community is disconnected from each other because of the games a lot of gamers grew up playing. New tastes are very different from us older guys. Who saw the birth of first person shooters, 3D game worlds, online play. Times were simpler and games were easier to just pick up and enjoy. Because gamers are grinders for the content gaming companies have built games to be a grind and it has taken away from the fun in my opinion. Games are judged by the size of their trophy list… This is not the metric of how I believe games should be formed around. Monetization has been a huge downfall. Everything has become reliant on IP’s that were made popular in a different gaming time that have become shells of their former selves. When you got all the content you were gonna get from a game from just the cartridge or disk they had to bring their A game. Now they charge an inflated price for an empty gaming experience and sell you the content and cosmetics on top so the cost of individual games has gone though the roof while the content while better looking and bigger in depth fails to capture the true fun of gaming.
I think that palys a role, but the gaming industry has also changed... I agree with Tim that monetezation chagned the game and I believe develops use these micro transactions now to lock people out of fun things rather allowing for creative freedom from the gamer to attain certain items rather than buying them. Take Elden Ring for example, as a 33 year old, that is one of my favorite games right now and it brings so much excitement just being able to explore and not worry about being guided or forced into things. Maybe it's nostalgic like, but it's definitely reminiscent of the old top down Zelda games where you just explore to create your own experience
Im almost 24 years old and i can agree, a first can def help but i play cod for about 19-20 years, and i still love it but some of the love has died but also its still there
He's like the poster child for the problem honestly. Literally buys fkn everything on the game even the retarded ugly bullshit stuff to feed his content which feeds the companies into selling u more crap. It's like a cycle of shit
I feel that gaming isn't casual anymore. It's main focus back in the day was to play and have fun. Now-a-days its turned into a profession/ career about content creation and who can have the best clip or most kills, which made multiplayer games very competitive/ sweaty. If no one streamed/ or posted video's, and made no money playing, I guarantee the fun would come back because gaming would become casual again.
No offense but I think you're playing the wrong games. Single player games are usually the complete opposite unless its a complex rpg. Most games back in the day were way harder to keep customers playing, now they create dlc and microtransactions so I feel like multi-player games now appeal more to the casual fans cause thats where the $ is
Started playing games when I was probably 8-9, and I’m 26 now. I’ve come to a point now where I don’t necessarily play game like COD or Fortnite for fun. I play them to interact with my friends. The game itself is just an outlet to spend time with my boys who all live in different parts of the country
this is so real. gaming for me is the equivalent of sitting on the porch for older people. it’s just a way to talk to the boys and connect with people because i’m not big on social media
People playing for the wrong reasons is exactly what makes gaming less fun. We have the sweaters, people like you8 just being there but not for fun but for friendships you can not maintain in reality. So sad. I wish myself back to times when gaming was for nerds and people like you didn't exist.
I’ll never get back the feeling of turning on Black Ops 1 for the first time… grinding… or MW2 search and destroy lobbies with my best friends. Everybody mic’d up with a goal to get UA-cam famous. It’s a type of nostalgia that is only relatable to how our parents talked about a time before internet. Truly a golden age, and moments forever missed. This is to all my Xbox friends from back then, who have whole family’s now. Cheers to those times 🍻
omg every single person is talking about cod. thats y its bad. cause yall wont just get off it or play the old ones. here, copy and paste - why dont ppl play other games then? go grab a fromsoftware game lol (im like their sponsor) u got gothic horror, mech future ones, Samuri ones and more (cough Elden Ring with dlc coming out in less than a month!!!!)...
The problem is that social media and influencers don't play solo adventure games and have stuck to battle royals so the discourse has turned into "games are boring", when in reality they are not even scratching the surface of all the great games that have come out throughout the years
Lots of ‘smaller’ content creators making videos on other games. I watch stuff I cant even play as its only on PC but the games looks cool and the creators are fun and down to earth. Just have to loom up games your interested in and find someone new. Back on verdansk id only watch Tim and Nick, now I don’t watch COD videos at all.
Exactly my thoughts when I was watching this. There are amazing games that fly under the radar, because everyone is just trying to play what is the most talked about game that month. A literal "Keeping up with the Jones'" type of mentalllity.
It’s crazy how in CoD now, you have to unlock each attachment for each specific gun and do all these challenges to keep up with the “stronger” weapons & more “useful” attachments
I 100% agree with this sentiment. I'm 38 and I've been gaming since I was 3. I find myself playing more and more single player less competitive games because I'm constantly getting angry with trying to compete with hyper sweaty players. Not to mention all the unfinished games coming out lately. Great video!
Im 40, feeling the same. Players now like to sit in corners with OP guns and its just not fun. Played COD since first MW and Apex since season one. Solo games are way better to unwind now, even watching smaller content creators playing survival games, like a mini series but about games. Its unlocked new games that I wouldn’t have played 10 years ago so in some ways its a blessing.
38 I play games that's not competitive or with just casual players. I recently bought the Contra collection and the Cowabunga Ninja Turtles collection.
31 here. You’re also probably investing less time into gaming than some of these kiddos AND feeling some of the slower reaction times that come with aging. If you’re honest with yourself, what you’re really saying is “I used to be one of the best players and now I’m not”. That has nothing to do with the quality of the game but rather a change in personal experience. I do think games are more predatory and less fun, but I don’t think the competitive nature has changed much at all.
I feel like that’s part of it, and also that big companies are wayyyyy too business minded. I get that you have to run a company, but not at the detriment to the product/art you’re trying to sell. That’s why you see so many indie games absolutely popping off recently - they make fun games out of passion and not for the sole purpose of making money.
I will never forget back in the day hopping on black ops 2 or black ops 3 with all the boys and just playing all night without having to worry about finishing a battle pass or finding the money to buy the best operator skin. Those were the prime gaming days and I don't think we will ever see it again. Another one of those you don't know what you had until you lose it moments.
Just beat Pokémon red the other day for the first time in over 10 years. The feelings I got loading in and selecting my Pokémon and then when I beat the final bosses have not been felt since playing PS2 games. Gaming will never be the same.
Its the nostalgia effect that adds to those older games and memories hit harder... such a surreal feeling to experience that we truly dont feel until its too late
Ahhh man LAN parties, CS, Command and Conquer, Warcraft, Starcraft...what awesome memories. These days i find retro games, plus indie titles still have that spark
Goldeneye sitting with friends was awesome. What a time. Streamers giving out meta load outs is a massive problem no one's finding guns they enjoy just the guns that are the most powerful. No individual game experience now.
The whole min/max and sweat factor in skill based matchmaking has almost ruined fps multiplayer games for me. I just don’t feel like sweating with what little free time I have anymore lol
Gaming is quite fun when you're not just playing COD and other multiplayer games the whole time. I'm currently playing The Witcher 3, and I've never enjoyed gaming as much as I do now.
@@H3NRY121 yeah i could never play JUST shooters, the amount of cheaters is insane and after like 3-4 matches in some games i have to take a break and play some other games like minecraft or lethal or some backrooms game.
@@H3NRY121 I'd much rather watch a content creator play a multiplayer shooter before playing it myself. My brain usually starts rotting after the third match
Super smash bros N64/gamecube, MLB 98 PS1, Goldeneye N64....so many hours played and no regrets. The tourneys, the competition amongst friends, the 2 liters downed, the chips crunched, the parents yelling at us to keep it down, oh the memories.
Honestly, for me, what has ruined gaming is sweats and cheaters. There's no more casual gaming unless you're playing single-player or PvE. Everybody wants to be a streamer, so they try hard. Then there's casual gamers that suck at the game because they can't dump hours into it, and they get tired of running into the sweats, so they buy cheats. That or the people that want to be streamers buy cheats because they know that to be a big streamer, you either have to be good at the game or be funny. I'm sure we will see single-player, co-op, and PvE games make a comeback. I know im not the only one who feels this way.
Streamers, cheaters, and micro transactions have killed gaming since 2016. Fortnite wrapped all 3 together and got super popular on social media. This caused other companies to copy them. And as consumers, we just keep buying it up… it’s sad FromSoft is one of the few still doing it right
Don’t take long to level up guns and u find the metas use the same broken attachments on almost every gun so ya Man U really get used to it then every gun u touch is meta after u grind all the camos and shit 😂 it’s part of the game dog it’s fun man don’t be so sad about not being good it’s a hard game
@@smizzzy1240imo it’s good and fun do I get tired of it sometimes yes and I take a break and comeback when I want to. It’s always good to take breaks and play other games.
I bought mw3 played it twice took a 2 month break and came back to a perma ban that they would not overturn. Never cheated in a game in my life and permanently banned from a game I just dropped 60$ on for richochet labeling me as a “cheater” when I was not even actively playing their game at the time. Call of duty/Activision held a huge place in my heart.. will never spend another dime on that garbage
I think people forget, gaming has always been meant to be a break or escape from reality. Never become people’s actual reality. Coming inside from playing whiffle ball for 7 hours capping it off with an hour or two of gaming created memories. Reverse it, spend 7 hours in a game and an hour or two of playing outside, it’s not fun anymore.
for the elder millenials out there, gaming now vs then is like the movie wayne's world. In the movie, once the show started being guided by soulless corporate investors, it loses its charm, and eventually it becomes something that doesn't even resemble its old self.
I've been saying for years that modern social media is destroying games, social media tells people to hate certain games & people listen, UA-camrs/steamers have evolved the competitive community which isn't bad but it also causes a lot of issues for the average player just wanting to play a couple games a day and all the posts showing off the newest skins to buy that waste your money and can be removed from game at any point
These no life’s play these games all day everyday. There the ones who are ruining gaming. Streamers have always been the problem with gaming remember Fortnite before ninja and his no life friends took over twitch and ever 12 year old wanted to quit school to play like them because they got “rich” yet don’t act rich cus they still play games all day like broke stay at home sons.
in my opinion, getting good at the game to EARN a cool unlockable (challenges) was way more fun than players being able to just buy something that was essentially even more cool. which would just be replaced with something even more cool in the shop making your previous purchase useless. bring back hard to obtain cool unlockable items through challenges, ty
like look back at bo1 you had to grind to prestige 13 to even get the chance to buy gold and get animated calling cards and change the color of your clan tag, they make us pay for shit like that now
also think of how great games would be if they came out finished in stead of selling DLC through their life time, for example imagine the universe of Destiny so cool right hours of gameplay but there would be no destiny DLC if they didn’t chop up the full game and sell parts of the idea later on as DLC add ons , pathetic
Also, cheating in PVP games has ruined PVP games. It doesn't matter which PVP game you play anymore... Anti-cheat doesn't even work anymore and doesn't solve the problem. You need to make a video on that man.
It's crazy to imagine there is a whole generation of gamers who will not get to experience split screen play. Having your friends come over actually got kids out of the house.
This is why i play story mode games .. because it still has that spark like sony still makes really good story based video games none of that repetitive online multiplayer games
People need to get out of their comfort zone from time to time discover new genres, it will help them enjoy their favorites games more and discover new games that they may fall in love with
Tim, you need to do so, like solo games. Just get away from the loudness and anger of online games. So, I intentionally left solo games very open-ended. Anything goes or let fans decide in a vote whatever. Just something new, and hopefully, you will find excitement.
I haven’t been on COD in since early February and having a lot of fun playing other games. I just beat Ghost of Tsushima, and God of War Ragnarok. Now I’m playing Stellar Blade and online races on Gran Turismo
Man you said it. I did the same not to long ago and I’m playing some games you mentioned myself. We are partying up in my discord and hanging out just helping each other , talking about games. None of us have been playing CoD lately and it’s been a blast. I did play some black ops Cold War but it’s just because Nuketown 😂
What a well put video of the current gaming situation we have. I honestly find myself at times watching videos of the games I love rather than playing them.
This is it exactly what I’ve been going through with multiple games. I was born in 1990 I think Tim is around my age it was a relief hearing his input because I thought it was just me. Amazing video this guy put together it’s worth the watch if you’re just feeling games lately! Personally to me it’s not just the games that made the most impacts on me but more of the connection / bonding & human interaction while playing split screen / lan tournaments & getting friends to jam with after school. I truly believe as I’ve said in my most enjoyable fun times playing & streaming has been finding awesome people in lfg’s or in game chats you never know when you could meet your best friends like I have. In three weeks one I call a brother is driving around 600 miles to stay at the house to visit. To me that’s end game! Thanks Tim stay safe and be kind to one and another ❤
The problem for me is no game feels new anymore. Every game I play these days (bar a few indie games) all feel like they've copied each other and just changed it slightly. The joys of gaming 15 years ago, everything felt new and fresh, and exciting because of that.
In my opinion, a big portion of why multiplayer games are not as fun. Is the introduction of sbmm, in literally everything now. Like think about how games have 2 modes (ranked) and (public matches) but pubs has sbmm. Essentially turning the "casual" part of the game into a ranked 2.0. If I wanted to try extremely hard and want to slam my nuts repeatedly on a table and get mad, I would just play ranked. And to cool down and actually enjoy doing things like troll people or try fun stuff for content or, to simply have fun.. You should have a no sbmm pub mode. Everything about multiplayer gaming has turned into a competitive warfare of bs.
That will never happen. There’s already a model that works. Sell the game for around 70 and the real money comes in with battle passes, skins, gun camps etc
Dude call of duty is confusing weirdly enough kinda like how humans are confused on gender roles 🤣 but less than 10 years ago we all collectively agreed it was just male and female !! The game is dogwater but we play it because honestly what other game is there to play that like cod ?
Easy way to put it 5 mini sectors per sector complete that sector move on to the other then earn more another sector that have 5 mini sectors. So essentially 5 points per sector.
As a content creator myself I refused to buy battle passes. If I can’t earn it in game I don’t bother. I’ve been giving the AAA gaming companies the middle finger for years. I am glad everyone is waking up to start doing the same.
gaming is fun when you aren't playing COD or mainstream multiplayer games. We got multiple bangers last year that are AAA games. The people who say "gaming isnt fun" are usually casual gamers who only play COD or Fortnite.
I still have fun playing call of duty. I feel a lot of the problem is that people can't think for themselves and have to follow what others do and say. Bottom line is people are afraid to think for themselves.
@@Betterpigeon I have fun with COD as well, COD will always be fun. Its just everything behind that that ruins it, shitty microtransactions and greed, and out of touch decisions and lack of effort and innovation is what ruins it. Fortnite actually has innovated with making the game more community based and incorporating Unreal Engine 5 but the people who says gaming isnt fun or its dead are usually the ones that needs to open up their taste in games a little more
From a 60-year-old player since the original BF days and COD days...What I truly miss are private servers where like-minded people could connect and play and the monetization of games with DLC and tiers of games (one can purchase) that have taken their toll (respectfully) on gaming today. I only add the word "veteran" to showcase that when it comes to tactics. I fully understand tactics and team play. It's not a brag. 15 year Army veteran.
There’s definitely a huge lack of creativity, originality, and passion in most games nowadays, but there’s still plenty of good stuff to have fun with. It’s pretty much the same as the film industry nowadays
Pokémon on Nintendo was my first ever 'game'. 91' baby here and I remember this, second generation Pokémon (Gold and Silver). After this, upgraded to a PlayStation and got Ape Escape which I couldn't get enough of, then into the Ratchet and Clank series and I have memories of me sitting in my room, on the floor against my bed, TV on the floor, basking in the sun, and grinding the latter for hours on end! Good times.. 😃
It’s because gaming went from being about working together and making friends into who can have the best aim, put in the most time, and who has the fastest decision making. The skill gap on most games now days is insane and makes players without a lot of time to play a lot less likely to have fun/succeed at the game. Also player bases are way more rude and toxic than ever. Ultimately it’s a people problem
There are two important moments I think made games go the way they are now. One, goose named it, which is updates. Being able to update your game through the internet changed things, and made studios be less cautious about the state they release their game in. I can see "You can always just fix it later, don't worry" becoming very recurrent between managers and execs when pushing for games on their release date. And the other ones was the Horse armor in WoW. When the devs stated that they made more money from that one skin than they did with an entire expansion it was over. Everyone followed suit into microtransactions. I might be wrong but, everytime I see something become publicly traded and starts getting investors, it immediately becomes either complete garbage or at least fails to meet its previous potential. Sure you have more funding, but studios get so restrained and controlled on everything they do that their products become crap. Also, more people working on a project does not only cost more but it makes it exponencially more complex, progress slows down, more approvals are needed to make changes, games need to cather to bigger audiences to make the huge amount of money spent back, making them more bland and less risky, less creative and bold, less controversial, more family friendly. Nowadays most cool games you can find are made by a single solo dev or a small team of people just working on their own, bold enough to create something new, or improve previous mechanics. Triple A companies are milking late stage capitalism dry, and I do think a lot of people are getting tired of the BS sub-par content they are getting for full price.
Big factor is definitely playing with friends or being with other people in general. Playing cod zombies with friends is more fun than solo, Playing basketball with friends is fun than playing solo, drinking is more fun with friends than drinking alone.
One of the biggest reasons it isn’t fun is due to everything being online now. It lost the social aspect and the memories that were and would still be made.
Firstly. Its important to play the right games. I cant play the sane game too much. Other than that on the outside there are fun games you just have to find them. Recently there have been fewer titles that im really willing to pickup. A couple really good games a year is all i need. Like 3 or 4 solid titles. But i definitely dont play everything but ive played a lot of stuff. Helldivers, Final Fantasy, Maybe some other stuff that hasnt been announced yet or is not quite there yet but i mean.
Oroginal Halo link up was the one for me. Get my friends round, link our original xboxs and have 4v4 on blood glutch. Was one of the best times of my life
First moment I felt gaming wasn’t as fun anymore was GTA5 online. I’m not talking release time. It was when the night clubs dropped. I remember coming home from my real life job, loading up GTA5, then I had to do the weed farm stuff. Then the bunker stuff. Then I had to do this, then that, then another. It literally felt like I was clocking in at another job. It was sucking the life out of me. I could just buy shark cards, but I fell for that trap before and regretted it. So, I uninstalled GTa5. 🤷🏻♂️ Some games are very much fun to me and they are mostly single player games. The online gaming world has become a chore and after so many years of grinding and draining the bank account, I just walked away. Like the guy in the video said…I probably watch more videos about gaming than I actually game now.
First battle pass was in the mobile battle royale Rules Of Survival. I played the game for years and that was always their marketing strategy. They had some of the best skins I’ve ever seen.
yeah, welcome to what some of the older crowd were saying years and years ago. the moment that everything started moving to even play the disc for a single player game, that you had to be connected to some server to even play, was the moment we realized it was going downhill. The required update on day of release, or week of release, was just evidence to the issue.
One reason is the availability of information. You can essentially know everything about the game before it even comes out. That takes the sense of wonder/adventure out of games.
I think gaming today is more tiring and draining. There are many times it just feels like work. With daily/weekly/monthly objectives tied to content, they're relying so heavily on that FOMO feeling to keep people trapped. If you don't play, you can't complete the objectives. If you don't complete the objectives, you don't get the rewards. If you don't get the rewards, you can't get new content (without paying). If you don't get new content, you can't compete. If you can't compete, don't bother. It's exhausting, and creates a system where you play the same game for hours a day for months on end. That's not a game. That's a job.
its def part monetization and part community, its very rare for games to even have after match lobbies anymore most of the time the people you play with changes every match so you don't really get to meet many people especially in certain games
I really hope Timmy takes that streamer part to heart. I love his content and I love what he’s done throughout the years. But it’s true. Streamers and content creators are making ANYTHING for a video to make sure they don’t lose there paycheck that month. But it’s killing what gaming has been the whole time. Fun.
I think we’ve become spoiled with all these options in what game to even play! the gaming community has came so far! Met a lot of great people, and supportive people. “Theirs a lot more to gaming, than the game” ~Lowkeybrovo
Man I feel horrible for people who love video games but don’t enjoy them anymore for whatever reason is valid for them. I’m 36 and have been gaming my entire life. There’s never been a moment I didn’t love it or had something I didn’t love playing. Imo gaming has never been more enjoyable. So many awesome things to play and grind.
Gaming can be addictive. You always try to get back that first hit of dopamine/accomplishment when you first started playing and today’s games are the pinnacle of that rush hidden behind paywalls. The level of mischief game companies cast onto people is revolving.
Gaming died for me when it was grinding and grinding - I don't always commit THAT many hours anymore (since having kids etc) and if you aren't grinding you are shit. Combine that with paying for things - it's just frustrating. I remember playing the same maps over and over in COD4 Modern Warfare and it was just a blast. No skins, no skins on characters. Just fun! I miss those days
For me, the problem started when they announced battle royal and the growth of PVP, and how it become more of a job then just fun. Constant youtube videos on movement and meta weapons, "end game strategies" and rotations. I used to just jump on the original xbox, play ghost recon with friends I never met, and "shoot" people, sometimes we won, sometimes we lost, but we had fun. Now I need a youtube degree in warzone just to last 3 seconds in a match. but what the gaming companies don't realize is that older games like me are leaving gaming just at a time when we have reached financial success in our lives and we are taking that money with us, leaving them to survive on the budgets of 13 year old middle school sweats and "movement kings" So i'll just go dust off my nintendo wii and go back to having fun again.
it happens to things in life when you don't focus on your dreams and focus on greed then it dwells. the heart in creating something got dry and people are catering people and money..
In my opinion the biggest issue is the all the sbmm and sweaty lobbies being the ONLY option for a ton of games. Having a sweaty ranked system and then an actual casual normal system where you don’t need to try so hard would be majorly beneficial. I’m a competitive person and i love being competitive but there’s times when i wanna play a FPS and not have to sweat just to have a good game, so to me there NEEDS to be an option between casual and sweaty because both have important roles and nearly every FPS shooter nowadays has moved to only sweaty options which gets very stale, even to someone competitive
He is 100% correct, WE didn't change, the games didn't change, the industy did. It moved towards more predatory ways to monetise players. We were NEVER having these conversations during the mid 2000's and before. They pushed updates, to rush games out faster, and we accepted it. They cut content to sell to us day 1 or later, and we accepted it. They inserted gambling into our games (loot boxes), and we accepted it. They inserted battle passes to consume our time, and we accepted it. They keep pushing the buttons more and more and eventually something has to break, and the first thing to break was the fun. And now the second thing to break is us. It hasn't quite happened fully yet but it will and gaming WILL implode. Their WILL be another major gaming crash in the next 10 years. And he is also 100% correct, that streamers and content creators are partly to blame for gamings downfall. Do what I do, and leave "triple a" gaming behind until they learn their lesson. Move towards smaller projects there IS a ton of fun stuff out there, or go back and replay older games or ones you missed out on.
Man I remember being at a YMCA summer camp and torwards the end the counselors let me bring my PS2 to hook it up to the screen in the activity room for the last week. Me and 10 of my good friends whom I’m still friends with today played Dragon Ball Z Budokai 3 every day and never got bored for even a second. It’s definitely the people connection that was the fun part. Not necessarily the online connection, but the in person connection of someone else on your couch with you, or in your house “lan parties”. Good times man
The part TIMTHETATMAN was talking about when he played with friends and enjoyed it. ... Those were also the days of dedicated servers. You would go and play on your favorite servers with your friends and if there were anyone on the server spoiling the moments they would get kicked or banned. Now p2p connection harder to get those monitored properly instead of dedicated server owners. so to keep you wanting to play with that scenario is then achievements. How do you think dedicated servers and more custom game modding after words would effect the gaming community again? I remember quake 3 and making maps and models for others to download for free as we were all doing it as a hobby. No money from it just pure enjoyment. So you easily bought those games at the time for $60 even back then. Only mods that cost money back then were huge updates like quake 3 team arena which if you look back at it the clan arena appears to be more from the rocket arena 3 mod. Those are the days though that I miss. I still enjoy games and playing them with people but there is a disconnect in there compared to 25 years ago.
I remember trying out and being part of a clan in cod to try and play some league play in bo2 or an mlg team the grind was crazy and so fun back then nostalgia hits mannn
From a 32 year olds perspective that was really into gaming, and not as much anymore. I was told a few years ago, that life seems to go by faster the older you get. And the reason is you don't have as many "Firsts". Usually you remember the first time you do a certain thing. Drive a car, go to school, first girlfriend, ETC. You don't have as many firsts as you get older. The same could be said for gaming. When we were all younger experiencing all these new games for the first time, it was exciting, new, and fun. First time beating a game, first time getting together with your friends to play, first time playing a game online. We got older, its not as exciting anymore because we have experienced it all. Yea we still have good times in the moment, but not like our FIRST time. Our generation may feel that gaming isn't as fun anymore. But for the young kids out there, they may be having the time of their lives like we once did.
Well said and we all experienced our firsts together. The gaming community is disconnected from each other because of the games a lot of gamers grew up playing. New tastes are very different from us older guys. Who saw the birth of first person shooters, 3D game worlds, online play. Times were simpler and games were easier to just pick up and enjoy. Because gamers are grinders for the content gaming companies have built games to be a grind and it has taken away from the fun in my opinion. Games are judged by the size of their trophy list… This is not the metric of how I believe games should be formed around. Monetization has been a huge downfall. Everything has become reliant on IP’s that were made popular in a different gaming time that have become shells of their former selves. When you got all the content you were gonna get from a game from just the cartridge or disk they had to bring their A game. Now they charge an inflated price for an empty gaming experience and sell you the content and cosmetics on top so the cost of individual games has gone though the roof while the content while better looking and bigger in depth fails to capture the true fun of gaming.
damn, you are so right
I think that palys a role, but the gaming industry has also changed... I agree with Tim that monetezation chagned the game and I believe develops use these micro transactions now to lock people out of fun things rather allowing for creative freedom from the gamer to attain certain items rather than buying them. Take Elden Ring for example, as a 33 year old, that is one of my favorite games right now and it brings so much excitement just being able to explore and not worry about being guided or forced into things. Maybe it's nostalgic like, but it's definitely reminiscent of the old top down Zelda games where you just explore to create your own experience
Thank you for confirming this. Damn.
Im almost 24 years old and i can agree, a first can def help but i play cod for about 19-20 years, and i still love it but some of the love has died but also its still there
that was the best way of saying "im part of the problem" without saying it
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@@rinshaolin94ew "upvote"
He's like the poster child for the problem honestly. Literally buys fkn everything on the game even the retarded ugly bullshit stuff to feed his content which feeds the companies into selling u more crap. It's like a cycle of shit
But it helps pay the bills...
brother we're all part of the problem. gamers spend more on free-to-play games than any other genre, by a lot. *YOU ARE BUYING THE BATTLE PASSES*
I feel that gaming isn't casual anymore. It's main focus back in the day was to play and have fun. Now-a-days its turned into a profession/ career about content creation and who can have the best clip or most kills, which made multiplayer games very competitive/ sweaty. If no one streamed/ or posted video's, and made no money playing, I guarantee the fun would come back because gaming would become casual again.
Yes
Back in the days there were sweats sure, but you didnt have to be some crazy movement tech fanatics to be on par with them and what not
this 100%
No offense but I think you're playing the wrong games. Single player games are usually the complete opposite unless its a complex rpg. Most games back in the day were way harder to keep customers playing, now they create dlc and microtransactions so I feel like multi-player games now appeal more to the casual fans cause thats where the $ is
Exactly
Started playing games when I was probably 8-9, and I’m 26 now. I’ve come to a point now where I don’t necessarily play game like COD or Fortnite for fun. I play them to interact with my friends. The game itself is just an outlet to spend time with my boys who all live in different parts of the country
this is so real.
gaming for me is the equivalent of sitting on the porch for older people.
it’s just a way to talk to the boys and connect with people because i’m not big on social media
People playing for the wrong reasons is exactly what makes gaming less fun. We have the sweaters, people like you8 just being there but not for fun but for friendships you can not maintain in reality. So sad. I wish myself back to times when gaming was for nerds and people like you didn't exist.
@@niemand7811 you sound like a lot of fun! Wanna play sometime?
@@niemand7811you prolly smell like shit
@@niemand7811 sws geen nederlander!😂
Jak and Daxter, Cod Modern warfare 4 , and Kingdom Hearts were the pinnacle of gaming days.
i need a jak and daxter 4
Man JAK AND DAXTER, that was the first video game i played here on the US and my parents got me a ps2
That's my high school days
TIMMY THE TATMAN TAYLOR
Subscribed, very good video man.
@@MasterJangleLeg thanks MasterJangle! I appreciate you!
You really did Timmy and Doc dirty...
And I like that 🤣
Yeah I saw two days ago randomly the spiderman & gta vids and sub immediately. Super great edit, cool vibes & OG games. Nice
Shoulda talked about reaction content so Tim feels extra targeted
I’ll never get back the feeling of turning on Black Ops 1 for the first time… grinding… or MW2 search and destroy lobbies with my best friends. Everybody mic’d up with a goal to get UA-cam famous. It’s a type of nostalgia that is only relatable to how our parents talked about a time before internet. Truly a golden age, and moments forever missed. This is to all my Xbox friends from back then, who have whole family’s now. Cheers to those times 🍻
omg every single person is talking about cod. thats y its bad. cause yall wont just get off it or play the old ones. here, copy and paste - why dont ppl play other games then? go grab a fromsoftware game lol (im like their sponsor) u got gothic horror, mech future ones, Samuri ones and more (cough Elden Ring with dlc coming out in less than a month!!!!)...
The problem is that social media and influencers don't play solo adventure games and have stuck to battle royals so the discourse has turned into "games are boring", when in reality they are not even scratching the surface of all the great games that have come out throughout the years
Lots of ‘smaller’ content creators making videos on other games. I watch stuff I cant even play as its only on PC but the games looks cool and the creators are fun and down to earth. Just have to loom up games your interested in and find someone new. Back on verdansk id only watch Tim and Nick, now I don’t watch COD videos at all.
I agree. Streamers are what is ruining gaming.
Exactly my thoughts when I was watching this.
There are amazing games that fly under the radar, because everyone is just trying to play what is the most talked about game that month. A literal "Keeping up with the Jones'" type of mentalllity.
Facts!! Thank you
I may be wrong bot aren't all the goty single player games lol ? Or atleast like 1 to 4 player games ?
Tim’s change of heart, halfway through cause he’s part of the problem is amazing.
It’s crazy how in CoD now, you have to unlock each attachment for each specific gun and do all these challenges to keep up with the “stronger” weapons & more “useful” attachments
I 100% agree with this sentiment. I'm 38 and I've been gaming since I was 3. I find myself playing more and more single player less competitive games because I'm constantly getting angry with trying to compete with hyper sweaty players. Not to mention all the unfinished games coming out lately. Great video!
Im 40, feeling the same. Players now like to sit in corners with OP guns and its just not fun. Played COD since first MW and Apex since season one. Solo games are way better to unwind now, even watching smaller content creators playing survival games, like a mini series but about games. Its unlocked new games that I wouldn’t have played 10 years ago so in some ways its a blessing.
@@Hatchetman01 Good point!
38 I play games that's not competitive or with just casual players. I recently bought the Contra collection and the Cowabunga Ninja Turtles collection.
31 here. You’re also probably investing less time into gaming than some of these kiddos AND feeling some of the slower reaction times that come with aging. If you’re honest with yourself, what you’re really saying is “I used to be one of the best players and now I’m not”. That has nothing to do with the quality of the game but rather a change in personal experience. I do think games are more predatory and less fun, but I don’t think the competitive nature has changed much at all.
@@Z-MACxSBMM literally changed the nature of competitive gaming.
I feel like gaming isn’t as fun because companies don’t want to risk trying much new stuff
Its not fun because you need to get good
Wat games u play??
I feel like that’s part of it, and also that big companies are wayyyyy too business minded. I get that you have to run a company, but not at the detriment to the product/art you’re trying to sell.
That’s why you see so many indie games absolutely popping off recently - they make fun games out of passion and not for the sole purpose of making money.
Gaming isn’t fun to people who constantly play with cheaters
@@SpaceRanger187 ok buddy, I bet you are just the best player
I will never forget back in the day hopping on black ops 2 or black ops 3 with all the boys and just playing all night without having to worry about finishing a battle pass or finding the money to buy the best operator skin. Those were the prime gaming days and I don't think we will ever see it again. Another one of those you don't know what you had until you lose it moments.
Fuck I miss the days I wouldnt get aimbot/wall hacked 😂 good ol halo 3-bo3 time era. Rip best years of pvp
I disliked this because I’m tired of hearing it, just don’t play the games that are like that. Plain and simple 🎉
@@NightEndDay87How? When every multiplayer game has a battle pass system now.
You acting like you have to buy that stuff haha
Bo2: Guardian spawn trap 😂😂😂 like if you know
Just beat Pokémon red the other day for the first time in over 10 years. The feelings I got loading in and selecting my Pokémon and then when I beat the final bosses have not been felt since playing PS2 games. Gaming will never be the same.
Its the nostalgia effect that adds to those older games and memories hit harder... such a surreal feeling to experience that we truly dont feel until its too late
Ahhh man LAN parties, CS, Command and Conquer, Warcraft, Starcraft...what awesome memories.
These days i find retro games, plus indie titles still have that spark
Lan parties!!! Holy shiz, been forever since I heard that. Those were my halo 2 days.
Starcraft and Diablo2 are still very regular rotations with me and some close friends that have been playing for 25+ years.
Goldeneye sitting with friends was awesome. What a time. Streamers giving out meta load outs is a massive problem no one's finding guns they enjoy just the guns that are the most powerful. No individual game experience now.
This is the truth right here.
PERFECT DARK!
Everybody in the lobby using the same meta guns. It’s sucks to see so many different guns but mostly everyone is just using 1 gun.
The whole min/max and sweat factor in skill based matchmaking has almost ruined fps multiplayer games for me. I just don’t feel like sweating with what little free time I have anymore lol
@@BVaccaro88 it's not enjoyable, the games rigged, good games/bad games, winning gun fights and losing gun fights it's not an even playing field.
Gaming is quite fun when you're not just playing COD and other multiplayer games the whole time. I'm currently playing The Witcher 3, and I've never enjoyed gaming as much as I do now.
its what i always say...thank god i play variety....must be tough for people that only play shooters
@@H3NRY121 yeah i could never play JUST shooters, the amount of cheaters is insane and after like 3-4 matches in some games i have to take a break and play some other games like minecraft or lethal or some backrooms game.
@@H3NRY121 I'd much rather watch a content creator play a multiplayer shooter before playing it myself. My brain usually starts rotting after the third match
The Witcher 3 is almost 10 years old. This is about new games
Deadas I’m going to legend of Zelda
Super smash bros N64/gamecube, MLB 98 PS1, Goldeneye N64....so many hours played and no regrets. The tourneys, the competition amongst friends, the 2 liters downed, the chips crunched, the parents yelling at us to keep it down, oh the memories.
Honestly, for me, what has ruined gaming is sweats and cheaters. There's no more casual gaming unless you're playing single-player or PvE. Everybody wants to be a streamer, so they try hard. Then there's casual gamers that suck at the game because they can't dump hours into it, and they get tired of running into the sweats, so they buy cheats. That or the people that want to be streamers buy cheats because they know that to be a big streamer, you either have to be good at the game or be funny. I'm sure we will see single-player, co-op, and PvE games make a comeback. I know im not the only one who feels this way.
This. Absolutely this.
Everyone just play something other than cod everyday you'll have fun 😂
The Finals fr fr
Facts!
@@TheCentipede_21broken trash. It still has a heal beam glitch that hasn’t been fixed in like 4 patches now
If CoD isn't fun, yet everyone is still playing it then doesn't that speak to how ass other games r? 🤣
@@WLH-ss2qw only people that complain about it are the ones that play it nonstop because they haven’t seen how bad other games are
Split screening with my friends growing up was the best and you can't do that now
*spectating a video that highlights how stupid it is to buy rainbow guns /loot boxes*
Timmy: 'I wish I got that knife'
😂😂😂😂😂
Streamers, cheaters, and micro transactions have killed gaming since 2016.
Fortnite wrapped all 3 together and got super popular on social media. This caused other companies to copy them. And as consumers, we just keep buying it up… it’s sad
FromSoft is one of the few still doing it right
Notice how the majority of games he points out are all multiplayer games
Modern gaming is no better than having a gambling addiction at this point. 😂
I can’t play cod anymore bc I have to level up all the guns then watch a class setup video because if u don’t you are cooked
Don’t take long to level up guns and u find the metas use the same broken attachments on almost every gun so ya Man U really get used to it then every gun u touch is meta after u grind all the camos and shit 😂 it’s part of the game dog it’s fun man don’t be so sad about not being good it’s a hard game
@@billwoodward7013 gaming is for sure doomed if youre saying COD is good
@@smizzzy1240 cods ass imo everyone just plays it though
@@smizzzy1240imo it’s good and fun do I get tired of it sometimes yes and I take a break and comeback when I want to. It’s always good to take breaks and play other games.
I bought mw3 played it twice took a 2 month break and came back to a perma ban that they would not overturn. Never cheated in a game in my life and permanently banned from a game I just dropped 60$ on for richochet labeling me as a “cheater” when I was not even actively playing their game at the time. Call of duty/Activision held a huge place in my heart.. will never spend another dime on that garbage
N64 split screen goldeneye, wcw vs nwo world tour and perfect dark was so fun. 19 inh screen we still had a blast or hours
I think people forget, gaming has always been meant to be a break or escape from reality. Never become people’s actual reality.
Coming inside from playing whiffle ball for 7 hours capping it off with an hour or two of gaming created memories. Reverse it, spend 7 hours in a game and an hour or two of playing outside, it’s not fun anymore.
for the elder millenials out there, gaming now vs then is like the movie wayne's world. In the movie, once the show started being guided by soulless corporate investors, it loses its charm, and eventually it becomes something that doesn't even resemble its old self.
Tim, the word you were looking for at the end of the video is nostalgia. You tend to look back on older things with fond memories.
I've been saying for years that modern social media is destroying games, social media tells people to hate certain games & people listen, UA-camrs/steamers have evolved the competitive community which isn't bad but it also causes a lot of issues for the average player just wanting to play a couple games a day and all the posts showing off the newest skins to buy that waste your money and can be removed from game at any point
Not the only thing it's destroying 😮
These no life’s play these games all day everyday. There the ones who are ruining gaming. Streamers have always been the problem with gaming remember Fortnite before ninja and his no life friends took over twitch and ever 12 year old wanted to quit school to play like them because they got “rich” yet don’t act rich cus they still play games all day like broke stay at home sons.
in my opinion, getting good at the game to EARN a cool unlockable (challenges) was way more fun than players being able to just buy something that was essentially even more cool. which would just be replaced with something even more cool in the shop making your previous purchase useless. bring back hard to obtain cool unlockable items through challenges, ty
like look back at bo1 you had to grind to prestige 13 to even get the chance to buy gold and get animated calling cards and change the color of your clan tag, they make us pay for shit like that now
also think of how great games would be if they came out finished in stead of selling DLC through their life time, for example imagine the universe of Destiny so cool right hours of gameplay but there would be no destiny DLC if they didn’t chop up the full game and sell parts of the idea later on as DLC add ons , pathetic
but at the end of the day i do think growing up has something to do with the lack of interest however gaming has changed for the MONEY as well
This guy hit the nail on the head... I've been going through this and I'm 44 and I've been gaming since 1985.
Also, cheating in PVP games has ruined PVP games. It doesn't matter which PVP game you play anymore... Anti-cheat doesn't even work anymore and doesn't solve the problem. You need to make a video on that man.
It's crazy to imagine there is a whole generation of gamers who will not get to experience split screen play. Having your friends come over actually got kids out of the house.
This is why i play story mode games .. because it still has that spark like sony still makes really good story based video games none of that repetitive online multiplayer games
People need to get out of their comfort zone from time to time discover new genres, it will help them enjoy their favorites games more and discover new games that they may fall in love with
Tim, you need to do so, like solo games. Just get away from the loudness and anger of online games. So, I intentionally left solo games very open-ended. Anything goes or let fans decide in a vote whatever. Just something new, and hopefully, you will find excitement.
The reason gaming isn't fun anymore is because developers see gamers as cash cows instead of consumers of an artform.
funniest core gaming memory was playing my friend in 2k15 dropping 70 pts with jared dudley
Bro that Need for Speed where you tried to make the biggest wreck possible was borderline crack!
BURNOUT BABY WOOOOOOOO
Like in burn out? I didn't know N4S had that feature
I'm sure he is thinking of burnout. That game was lit for sure
@@grantisshananaa4906 Yeah Burnout! Thank you!
Burnout right ?
I've never been so connected and so alone.
As a kid it was Lan parties, link cables, and social.
Today it's distant. There is no face to face.
That might be the truest thing I’ve heard about today’s world. Most are connected, yet alone. Well said.
I haven’t been on COD in since early February and having a lot of fun playing other games. I just beat Ghost of Tsushima, and God of War Ragnarok. Now I’m playing Stellar Blade and online races on Gran Turismo
Man you said it. I did the same not to long ago and I’m playing some games you mentioned myself. We are partying up in my discord and hanging out just helping each other , talking about games. None of us have been playing CoD lately and it’s been a blast. I did play some black ops Cold War but it’s just because Nuketown 😂
What a well put video of the current gaming situation we have.
I honestly find myself at times watching videos of the games I love rather than playing them.
This is it exactly what I’ve been going through with multiple games. I was born in 1990 I think Tim is around my age it was a relief hearing his input because I thought it was just me. Amazing video this guy put together it’s worth the watch if you’re just feeling games lately! Personally to me it’s not just the games that made the most impacts on me but more of the connection / bonding & human interaction while playing split screen / lan tournaments & getting friends to jam with after school. I truly believe as I’ve said in my most enjoyable fun times playing & streaming has been finding awesome people in lfg’s or in game chats you never know when you could meet your best friends like I have. In three weeks one I call a brother is driving around 600 miles to stay at the house to visit. To me that’s end game! Thanks Tim stay safe and be kind to one and another ❤
I miss those OG day's that simple things make us happy
Yes gaming is still fun wtf💀. The people who are having fun just aren’t playing Call of Duty
That Doc clip is SO good hahaha
The name... is... ... 93'94' blockbuster world champ champ champ
The problem for me is no game feels new anymore. Every game I play these days (bar a few indie games) all feel like they've copied each other and just changed it slightly. The joys of gaming 15 years ago, everything felt new and fresh, and exciting because of that.
One word... Microtransactions! Damn horse armor in Oblivion opened the flood gates.
Tim doesn't even know he's being played like a fiddle by COD
In my opinion, a big portion of why multiplayer games are not as fun. Is the introduction of sbmm, in literally everything now. Like think about how games have 2 modes (ranked) and (public matches) but pubs has sbmm. Essentially turning the "casual" part of the game into a ranked 2.0. If I wanted to try extremely hard and want to slam my nuts repeatedly on a table and get mad, I would just play ranked. And to cool down and actually enjoy doing things like troll people or try fun stuff for content or, to simply have fun.. You should have a no sbmm pub mode. Everything about multiplayer gaming has turned into a competitive warfare of bs.
Best way to fix this would be to start from scratch and enter a new era of renaissance for gaming.
That will never happen. There’s already a model that works. Sell the game for around 70 and the real money comes in with battle passes, skins, gun camps etc
How do you fix it?... stop buying dlc/battle passes. Streamers promote it
Anything with ranked play is just a sweat fest game. And not everyone wants to do that. It’s not fun for the casual players.
I still haven't figured out how the Warzone battlepass works. Not even gonna bother buying it.
Trying to navigate the main menu is the most confusing thing I’ve ever done
Dude call of duty is confusing weirdly enough kinda like how humans are confused on gender roles 🤣 but less than 10 years ago we all collectively agreed it was just male and female !! The game is dogwater but we play it because honestly what other game is there to play that like cod ?
@@Trick.Ricky.Sternnthat was a weird comparison bro.
Easy way to put it 5 mini sectors per sector complete that sector move on to the other then earn more another sector that have 5 mini sectors. So essentially 5 points per sector.
As a content creator myself I refused to buy battle passes. If I can’t earn it in game I don’t bother. I’ve been giving the AAA gaming companies the middle finger for years. I am glad everyone is waking up to start doing the same.
gaming is fun when you aren't playing COD or mainstream multiplayer games. We got multiple bangers last year that are AAA games. The people who say "gaming isnt fun" are usually casual gamers who only play COD or Fortnite.
I still have fun playing call of duty. I feel a lot of the problem is that people can't think for themselves and have to follow what others do and say. Bottom line is people are afraid to think for themselves.
@@Betterpigeon I have fun with COD as well, COD will always be fun. Its just everything behind that that ruins it, shitty microtransactions and greed, and out of touch decisions and lack of effort and innovation is what ruins it. Fortnite actually has innovated with making the game more community based and incorporating Unreal Engine 5 but the people who says gaming isnt fun or its dead are usually the ones that needs to open up their taste in games a little more
Gaming is fun when you aren’t playing 10+ hours everyday like this no life
From a 60-year-old player since the original BF days and COD days...What I truly miss are private servers where like-minded people could connect and play and the monetization of games with DLC and tiers of games (one can purchase) that have taken their toll (respectfully) on gaming today. I only add the word "veteran" to showcase that when it comes to tactics. I fully understand tactics and team play. It's not a brag. 15 year Army veteran.
There’s definitely a huge lack of creativity, originality, and passion in most games nowadays, but there’s still plenty of good stuff to have fun with. It’s pretty much the same as the film industry nowadays
Pokémon on Nintendo was my first ever 'game'.
91' baby here and I remember this, second generation Pokémon (Gold and Silver).
After this, upgraded to a PlayStation and got Ape Escape which I couldn't get enough of, then into the Ratchet and Clank series and I have memories of me sitting in my room, on the floor against my bed, TV on the floor, basking in the sun, and grinding the latter for hours on end!
Good times.. 😃
Ratchet and Clank was sooooo fun man
Ape Escape 1 on PS1 was insane
There is no reason why we can’t still have cheat codes and mods for single player games. Devs just don’t give a damn anymore.
It’s because gaming went from being about working together and making friends into who can have the best aim, put in the most time, and who has the fastest decision making. The skill gap on most games now days is insane and makes players without a lot of time to play a lot less likely to have fun/succeed at the game. Also player bases are way more rude and toxic than ever. Ultimately it’s a people problem
Streamers and social media made gaming so unnecessarily overcomplicated
Having 15 other friends over and having a LAN party with Halo and CS were the best times ever.
I remember tips and tricks magazine and game informer , just sitting there reading while the parents shopped 😂
Good ole days
There are two important moments I think made games go the way they are now.
One, goose named it, which is updates. Being able to update your game through the internet changed things, and made studios be less cautious about the state they release their game in. I can see "You can always just fix it later, don't worry" becoming very recurrent between managers and execs when pushing for games on their release date.
And the other ones was the Horse armor in WoW. When the devs stated that they made more money from that one skin than they did with an entire expansion it was over. Everyone followed suit into microtransactions.
I might be wrong but, everytime I see something become publicly traded and starts getting investors, it immediately becomes either complete garbage or at least fails to meet its previous potential. Sure you have more funding, but studios get so restrained and controlled on everything they do that their products become crap.
Also, more people working on a project does not only cost more but it makes it exponencially more complex, progress slows down, more approvals are needed to make changes, games need to cather to bigger audiences to make the huge amount of money spent back, making them more bland and less risky, less creative and bold, less controversial, more family friendly.
Nowadays most cool games you can find are made by a single solo dev or a small team of people just working on their own, bold enough to create something new, or improve previous mechanics. Triple A companies are milking late stage capitalism dry, and I do think a lot of people are getting tired of the BS sub-par content they are getting for full price.
Big factor is definitely playing with friends or being with other people in general. Playing cod zombies with friends is more fun than solo, Playing basketball with friends is fun than playing solo, drinking is more fun with friends than drinking alone.
One of the biggest reasons it isn’t fun is due to everything being online now. It lost the social aspect and the memories that were and would still be made.
My very first own game was pokemon yellow (Pikachu). I think I was around 6 or 7 years old. Good old days!! ❤
Firstly. Its important to play the right games. I cant play the sane game too much. Other than that on the outside there are fun games you just have to find them. Recently there have been fewer titles that im really willing to pickup. A couple really good games a year is all i need. Like 3 or 4 solid titles. But i definitely dont play everything but ive played a lot of stuff.
Helldivers, Final Fantasy, Maybe some other stuff that hasnt been announced yet or is not quite there yet but i mean.
I miss gaming in the 90s NGL. I used to love playing now when I have time I get bored so fast and switch between multiple games.
Almost every gaming studio should watch this.
Oroginal Halo link up was the one for me. Get my friends round, link our original xboxs and have 4v4 on blood glutch. Was one of the best times of my life
First moment I felt gaming wasn’t as fun anymore was GTA5 online. I’m not talking release time. It was when the night clubs dropped.
I remember coming home from my real life job, loading up GTA5, then I had to do the weed farm stuff. Then the bunker stuff. Then I had to do this, then that, then another. It literally felt like I was clocking in at another job. It was sucking the life out of me. I could just buy shark cards, but I fell for that trap before and regretted it.
So, I uninstalled GTa5. 🤷🏻♂️
Some games are very much fun to me and they are mostly single player games. The online gaming world has become a chore and after so many years of grinding and draining the bank account, I just walked away.
Like the guy in the video said…I probably watch more videos about gaming than I actually game now.
First battle pass was in the mobile battle royale Rules Of Survival. I played the game for years and that was always their marketing strategy. They had some of the best skins I’ve ever seen.
yeah, welcome to what some of the older crowd were saying years and years ago. the moment that everything started moving to even play the disc for a single player game, that you had to be connected to some server to even play, was the moment we realized it was going downhill. The required update on day of release, or week of release, was just evidence to the issue.
One reason is the availability of information. You can essentially know everything about the game before it even comes out. That takes the sense of wonder/adventure out of games.
I think gaming today is more tiring and draining. There are many times it just feels like work. With daily/weekly/monthly objectives tied to content, they're relying so heavily on that FOMO feeling to keep people trapped.
If you don't play, you can't complete the objectives. If you don't complete the objectives, you don't get the rewards. If you don't get the rewards, you can't get new content (without paying). If you don't get new content, you can't compete. If you can't compete, don't bother.
It's exhausting, and creates a system where you play the same game for hours a day for months on end. That's not a game. That's a job.
Depends on the game. I feel like games like Baldurs gate 3, Alan wake 2, god of war, and cyberpunk don’t feel like that at all and are really fun
its def part monetization and part community, its very rare for games to even have after match lobbies anymore most of the time the people you play with changes every match so you don't really get to meet many people especially in certain games
Starfox 64 was one of the greatest games ever convince me other wise right along golden eye fps
I really hope Timmy takes that streamer part to heart. I love his content and I love what he’s done throughout the years. But it’s true. Streamers and content creators are making ANYTHING for a video to make sure they don’t lose there paycheck that month. But it’s killing what gaming has been the whole time. Fun.
When dlc was born gaming changed
Gaming isn’t dead, this is just another chapter in the book that is gaming
I think we’ve become spoiled with all these options in what game to even play! the gaming community has came so far! Met a lot of great people, and supportive people.
“Theirs a lot more to gaming, than the game” ~Lowkeybrovo
Bro, said Turtles in time and i had mad flashbacks. thank you for bringing back those memories.
Man I feel horrible for people who love video games but don’t enjoy them anymore for whatever reason is valid for them. I’m 36 and have been gaming my entire life. There’s never been a moment I didn’t love it or had something I didn’t love playing. Imo gaming has never been more enjoyable. So many awesome things to play and grind.
He called Doc "this guy." Man Doc really is done for.
Gaming can be addictive. You always try to get back that first hit of dopamine/accomplishment when you first started playing and today’s games are the pinnacle of that rush hidden behind paywalls. The level of mischief game companies cast onto people is revolving.
Gaming died for me when it was grinding and grinding - I don't always commit THAT many hours anymore (since having kids etc) and if you aren't grinding you are shit. Combine that with paying for things - it's just frustrating.
I remember playing the same maps over and over in COD4 Modern Warfare and it was just a blast. No skins, no skins on characters. Just fun! I miss those days
For me, the problem started when they announced battle royal and the growth of PVP, and how it become more of a job then just fun. Constant youtube videos on movement and meta weapons, "end game strategies" and rotations. I used to just jump on the original xbox, play ghost recon with friends I never met, and "shoot" people, sometimes we won, sometimes we lost, but we had fun. Now I need a youtube degree in warzone just to last 3 seconds in a match.
but what the gaming companies don't realize is that older games like me are leaving gaming just at a time when we have reached financial success in our lives and we are taking that money with us, leaving them to survive on the budgets of 13 year old middle school sweats and "movement kings" So i'll just go dust off my nintendo wii and go back to having fun again.
it happens to things in life when you don't focus on your dreams and focus on greed then it dwells. the heart in creating something got dry and people are catering people and money..
In my opinion the biggest issue is the all the sbmm and sweaty lobbies being the ONLY option for a ton of games. Having a sweaty ranked system and then an actual casual normal system where you don’t need to try so hard would be majorly beneficial. I’m a competitive person and i love being competitive but there’s times when i wanna play a FPS and not have to sweat just to have a good game, so to me there NEEDS to be an option between casual and sweaty because both have important roles and nearly every FPS shooter nowadays has moved to only sweaty options which gets very stale, even to someone competitive
Achievement hunters know a game can never be boring.
He is 100% correct, WE didn't change, the games didn't change, the industy did. It moved towards more predatory ways to monetise players.
We were NEVER having these conversations during the mid 2000's and before. They pushed updates, to rush games out faster, and we accepted it. They cut content to sell to us day 1 or later, and we accepted it. They inserted gambling into our games (loot boxes), and we accepted it. They inserted battle passes to consume our time, and we accepted it.
They keep pushing the buttons more and more and eventually something has to break, and the first thing to break was the fun. And now the second thing to break is us. It hasn't quite happened fully yet but it will and gaming WILL implode. Their WILL be another major gaming crash in the next 10 years.
And he is also 100% correct, that streamers and content creators are partly to blame for gamings downfall. Do what I do, and leave "triple a" gaming behind until they learn their lesson. Move towards smaller projects there IS a ton of fun stuff out there, or go back and replay older games or ones you missed out on.
Man I remember being at a YMCA summer camp and torwards the end the counselors let me bring my PS2 to hook it up to the screen in the activity room for the last week. Me and 10 of my good friends whom I’m still friends with today played Dragon Ball Z Budokai 3 every day and never got bored for even a second. It’s definitely the people connection that was the fun part. Not necessarily the online connection, but the in person connection of someone else on your couch with you, or in your house “lan parties”. Good times man
The part TIMTHETATMAN
was talking about when he played with friends and enjoyed it. ... Those were also the days of dedicated servers. You would go and play on your favorite servers with your friends and if there were anyone on the server spoiling the moments they would get kicked or banned. Now p2p connection harder to get those monitored properly instead of dedicated server owners. so to keep you wanting to play with that scenario is then achievements. How do you think dedicated servers and more custom game modding after words would effect the gaming community again? I remember quake 3 and making maps and models for others to download for free as we were all doing it as a hobby. No money from it just pure enjoyment. So you easily bought those games at the time for $60 even back then. Only mods that cost money back then were huge updates like quake 3 team arena which if you look back at it the clan arena appears to be more from the rocket arena 3 mod. Those are the days though that I miss. I still enjoy games and playing them with people but there is a disconnect in there compared to 25 years ago.
I remember trying out and being part of a clan in cod to try and play some league play in bo2 or an mlg team the grind was crazy and so fun back then nostalgia hits mannn
Who wouldn’t want to make money playing video games either that’s definitely like a dream come true for a gamer
TURTLES IN TIME! 🤘 (also Star Wars: Jedi Outcast 👏)