NEW! STUDY SHOWS RTO DOESN'T WORK!

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    This video dives into a pivotal University of Pittsburgh study revealing the unexpected truth about Return-to-Office (RTO) policies. Despite corporate hopes, forcing employees back into the office shows no financial benefit but leads to a significant drop in job satisfaction. From Mark Zuckerberg's flip-flopping stance to Snap's CEO Evan Spiegel's family time cut short, we explore the real impact of RTO on companies like Meta and the use of 'quiet layoffs.' Witness the tone-deaf attempts at boosting office morale and why these strategies simply don't resonate with the workforce. #remotework

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      @brandonpennington872 7 місяців тому +1

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      I am fortunate to work for a company that lets me work from 9am-6pm instead of the standard 8am-5pm, and I work remotely, and they don't get angry if I accidentally take an extra hour nap and when you're off, you're off (vacation or working hours).

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    • @PrecisionClays
      @PrecisionClays 7 місяців тому +6

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    • @deydraniadiancecht8298
      @deydraniadiancecht8298 7 місяців тому

      Having people stay at home proves that they can have their jobs outsourced.

  • @dreamhollow
    @dreamhollow 7 місяців тому +1064

    What I've been saying all along. It was never about "returning to the workplace" it was ALWAYS trying to prop up the dying commercial realty industry.

    • @meliss9536
      @meliss9536 7 місяців тому +4

      It’s very very expensive to convert that stuff. Donating to someone as a write off? Good idea …supposedly.

    • @headlibrarian1996
      @headlibrarian1996 7 місяців тому +18

      Why would my company care about the commercial real estate industry?

    • @AnimeReference
      @AnimeReference 7 місяців тому +23

      I never bought this argument. My company doesn't own the building (and if they did they'd just prop it up as long as it would take to sell it). The building being full incus additional expense. Leaving it empty literally saves them money. The reason we have RTO is actually so that the CEO never walks into an empty office; he feels bad if he doesn't see the thing that he bought every day (that he's in). Ironically we had to walk back measures to ensure this never happened due to decreased productivity.

    • @cetriyasArtnComicsChannel
      @cetriyasArtnComicsChannel 7 місяців тому +24

      ​@headlibrarian1996 because if they own the building, it's part of their asset value that they can run credit borrowing and also be part in selling the business for good money. Also tax incentives

    • @BadStructuralEngineeringFirms
      @BadStructuralEngineeringFirms 7 місяців тому +6

      HGA designs interior spaces in offices. They have a vested interest in return to office.

  • @BOSSDONMAN
    @BOSSDONMAN 7 місяців тому +313

    I remember reading on Reddit a post saying their team deliberately decides to do much less on their in-office days.

    • @meliss9536
      @meliss9536 7 місяців тому +68

      It’s inevitable. Soooo much talking, so many activities I’d rather sit in my chair for. Such a far walk to the bathroom or cafeteria, and to the building from the car.

    • @YouMissedBro
      @YouMissedBro 7 місяців тому +29

      I plan on doing the opposite. My office days I'll do all my work and my WFH I won't do shit. It'll make up for the 8 hours of work I'd complete in 5 hours while fully remote.

    • @BOSSDONMAN
      @BOSSDONMAN 7 місяців тому

      @@YouMissedBro Yeah, that's what I would do if I was in office.

    • @logomarkz
      @logomarkz 7 місяців тому +37

      ​@@YouMissedBrowatch out, it will backfire eventually when they catch you, and they'll eliminate your WFH time.

    • @scottstempmail9045
      @scottstempmail9045 7 місяців тому +2

      Good for them. Break the system.

  • @fettel1988
    @fettel1988 7 місяців тому +574

    Further, for anyone not within walking distance, RTO is literally a pay CUT.
    The return of travel/parking expenses and lunch costs means you are no longer making as much money. Again.

    • @AaAa-uq5tp
      @AaAa-uq5tp 7 місяців тому +77

      This was one of my arguments when youtube tried to make me come back to the office. They decided not to care, I decided not to work for them. Problem solved

    • @meliss9536
      @meliss9536 7 місяців тому +29

      That and now I have to lug in my own water because the town I work in has cancerous, and dirty, water.

    • @SuperDecimator
      @SuperDecimator 7 місяців тому

      Wilmington NC, by chance?@@meliss9536

    • @SamBrickell
      @SamBrickell 7 місяців тому +33

      On my random mandatory office days, Iliterally have to commute from my safer neighborhood with less crime to a more dangerous area (6 cars have been broken into recently in our employee parking lot) and pay a higher income tax rate to that city during those days...

    • @wulfsorenson8859
      @wulfsorenson8859 7 місяців тому +19

      Exactly it also means we are forced to move back to the towns and major cities where rents and house prices have gone nuts!

  • @fabledreamor
    @fabledreamor 7 місяців тому +109

    These companies preach on reducing carbon foot print. But, they force their employees to commute to offices.

    • @Joker22593
      @Joker22593 7 місяців тому +14

      The suffering is the point. They want to break you so you will easily accept a dictator.

    • @homefrontforge
      @homefrontforge 7 місяців тому +5

      RTO is a precursor to 15 minute cities.

    • @twelvepercentitalian2511
      @twelvepercentitalian2511 7 місяців тому +4

      That’s how you know it’s all a grift.

    • @istvantoth7431
      @istvantoth7431 3 місяці тому

      Spot on!!

  • @dansugardude2655
    @dansugardude2655 7 місяців тому +498

    Jobs that can be done remotely should be allowed to be done remotely. It’s that simple!

    • @GHO5tMod3
      @GHO5tMod3 7 місяців тому +10

      🙌🏾 yes

    • @darksideblues135
      @darksideblues135 7 місяців тому +1

      Didn't they say us driving is killing the planet?
      So let me work from home... Then they get tetchy and say I need to drive I. And work when I can do it from home just the same. Its amazing how green policies are abandoned when it benefits us but they are enforced when it screws us over.

    • @immortaljanus
      @immortaljanus 7 місяців тому +12

      But... muh corporate goals...

    • @princessmarlena1359
      @princessmarlena1359 7 місяців тому +22

      But then who will the bosses and middle managers pick on?

    • @scottstempmail9045
      @scottstempmail9045 7 місяців тому +11

      @@immortaljanus and culture! Why won't anyone think about our corporate family culture!?

  • @heroldjaras9909
    @heroldjaras9909 7 місяців тому +120

    companies dont really care about your happiness, only about control and power. this already starts at the job interview

  • @SamBrickell
    @SamBrickell 7 місяців тому +120

    Paying for the commute needs to be mandatory. If they pay for that then I'll know it's actually important to the companies.

    • @noahd213
      @noahd213 7 місяців тому +12

      My company has an office downtown but they don't have a parking garage. They're still forcing me to come in. If they don't pay for my Ubers (30 min each way), I'll be forced to quit. I'm not paying for those Ubers myself. All so I can Zoom with my teammates in another city.

    • @aGermanGuy-ese
      @aGermanGuy-ese 7 місяців тому +2

      I get 20€ a day tax free for commuting but i live in Germany.
      I woud never Take a Job that dosent pay fo commuting its Like a pay cute.

    • @jamesphillips2285
      @jamesphillips2285 7 місяців тому

      @@noahd213 Downtown has good transit connections in my city. Trains have 10x the corridor capacity personal cars do.

    • @clipkut4979
      @clipkut4979 7 місяців тому +2

      They should pay the difference in accommodation costs too.
      If working remotely I can afford to live in an area where a house costs 100k and the rent is 1k that's great. But if you want me to come to the office, and now I have to live within commuting distance and a house costs 300k and the rent is 3k I want you to pay for that difference. If coming to the office matters that much to them, they should take the hit in their pockets. If not shut up and let me do my job where I want.

    • @raketensven3127
      @raketensven3127 7 місяців тому +3

      You still lose time commuting. Time, that's infinitely more valuable than paper money or numbers on a bank acc. For most it's at least 1 hr commute, every day.

  • @bkucenski
    @bkucenski 7 місяців тому +316

    They don't care about money, they care about control.

    • @BadStructuralEngineeringFirms
      @BadStructuralEngineeringFirms 7 місяців тому +16

      You are correct about this. HGA harassed me before they laid me off. They got angry when the videos were posted online.

    • @phantom8926
      @phantom8926 7 місяців тому +16

      Money, power and control. That's what it's all about.

    • @MrMisanthrope84
      @MrMisanthrope84 7 місяців тому

      CEOs can't get hard unless they can monitor people's bathroom and coffee breaks. A lot of them are narcissists and cant deal with not being in full control of what they feel entitled to, and what they feel entitled to is the lives of people they pay rather poorly.

    • @princessmarlena1359
      @princessmarlena1359 7 місяців тому +2

      Exactly.

    • @Goval400
      @Goval400 7 місяців тому +5

      They care about both because the second the earnings drop they lay people off

  • @HowMoneyWorks
    @HowMoneyWorks 7 місяців тому +32

    Instead of companies feeling like they need to bring people back to the office, they should be converting commercial real estate into apartments to lower the cost of housing

    • @HiddenFat
      @HiddenFat 6 місяців тому

      Those tenant improvment jobs are massive. Instead of 2 bathrooms you need to more than a dozen. The piping going to all those toilets and the new rooms is quite an endevor. Not impossible but not cheap

  • @AnthonyMcqueen1987
    @AnthonyMcqueen1987 7 місяців тому +83

    No thanks remote all the way I don’t need to be micromanaged in a cubicle farm.

  • @BOSSDONMAN
    @BOSSDONMAN 7 місяців тому +66

    RTO calls = layoffs are coming.
    RTO is smokescreen to minimize layoff costs.

    • @BadStructuralEngineeringFirms
      @BadStructuralEngineeringFirms 7 місяців тому

      RTO is also a smokescreen to make employees come into the office so the bad bosses can harass them. ua-cam.com/play/PLZf9uyhYCn4Oo_K5e6RF36IJDyiIwk7Uh.html

    • @susrev88
      @susrev88 7 місяців тому +10

      happened here too. RTO made mandatory, 200 people resigned. later HO is fine again. it's just a way to lay people off and avoid paying them.

    • @BOSSDONMAN
      @BOSSDONMAN 7 місяців тому +3

      @@susrev88 Wait so they gave you guys WFH flexibly back then? I'd guess they're severely underpaying a lot of workers if that many were able to find a new role that fast.

    • @susrev88
      @susrev88 7 місяців тому

      @@BOSSDONMAN before covid, no HO was allowed. covid forced the company to HO (IT company, i'm not a dev/IT though). then last they started soft pushing back to office. one day/week, etc. i dunno if they found new jobs but the salaries are a joke (i live in the poorest country in europe). millionaire VPs and CEOs telling us to go to office and "yes, we also feel inflation on our skin" LOL

    • @chickaliciousnyc
      @chickaliciousnyc 7 місяців тому

      🤯

  • @franciscomagalhaes7457
    @franciscomagalhaes7457 7 місяців тому +83

    This is why for the interview for my last job I asked if they were in the habit of doing stupid games for teambuilding and shit. Straight-up told them I think that kind of shit is insulting and if they didn't feel the same, then we wouldn't be a good fit. I got hired, and the job and people were great.

    • @i_am_vengeance_
      @i_am_vengeance_ 7 місяців тому +4

      (ahem) ... white elephant gifting for Christmas (cough cough) ... stupidest thing ever ...

    • @gentlemanbirdlake
      @gentlemanbirdlake 7 місяців тому +2

      this is the way

    • @AngelaMastrodonato
      @AngelaMastrodonato 7 місяців тому +8

      I love that you were bold and didn’t tell them what you thought they may have wanted to hear.

    • @franciscomagalhaes7457
      @franciscomagalhaes7457 7 місяців тому

      @@AngelaMastrodonato well thank you, but this had nothing to do with being bold, and everything to do with being fed up, tired, insulted, and beaten in the job market for the better part of 15 years. Got to the point where I'd rather live under an overpass than go through that bullshit again. And the next motherfucker that lies in their job description is paying for my uber home, or I'm taking a keyboard or a monitor from their office to pay for my troubles.

    • @jlogan2228
      @jlogan2228 2 місяці тому

      Any time we ever had that kinda shit at my previous job I skipped it and was like IM BUSY! I DONT HAVE TIME FOR KINDERGARTEN SHIT!

  • @XV250
    @XV250 7 місяців тому +21

    Return to the office is less about Productivity and more about Control.
    It's hard to justify lots of managers and executives if there's no one in the office for them to micro-manage.

  • @michaelherring7210
    @michaelherring7210 7 місяців тому +149

    I believe these CEO’s that push RTO just hate their own families and assume we all do 😂

    • @cryora
      @cryora 7 місяців тому +12

      Bingo

    • @amicaaranearum
      @amicaaranearum 7 місяців тому +16

      You’re not wrong. Many men admit to staying longer in the office to avoid dealing with their kids.

    • @mecanuktutorials6476
      @mecanuktutorials6476 7 місяців тому

      @@amicaaranearumkids?
      More like wife or in laws or siblings or roommates or parents.
      Basically bosses that don’t pay you!

    • @soujemn5
      @soujemn5 7 місяців тому +6

      My team lead is the same way as I found out. The reason he doesn't take remote days like the rest of us (we get 2 days a week after the RTO negotiations) is because he can't stand being around his wife all day.

    • @krisdeb
      @krisdeb 7 місяців тому

      Spot on - many losers I've met in the IT industry across all the board just want to sit in the office from 6am to 8pm and I'm not joking, why coming back to wife and kids and face a real-life challenges? It's just better to discuss about nothing using this artificial, plastic, pseudo-business language filled with empty words which sounds like human walking GPT, fake smiles, zero emotional intelligence, angry and frustrated, sweaty and heavily obese, almost always smoking as well. Or their opposites 'modern' guys in suits or sport super slim pants squeezing their testicles, using the same language, also fake smile all the time and patronising looks, amazing hair and tan, even looks like make up, slick and sleazy, overconfident middle management or aspiring-for-nothing 'leader' Looks and sounds familiar?

  • @keyrtan
    @keyrtan 7 місяців тому +21

    What's funny is that nobody is suggesting paying employees more to come back to the office but they are suggesting spending more.

  • @chuckchan4127
    @chuckchan4127 7 місяців тому +24

    God that chair race was pure cringe.

    • @imageword5576
      @imageword5576 6 місяців тому

      @@Meatbot flashbacks of being in kindergarten, yeah

    • @jlogan2228
      @jlogan2228 2 місяці тому

      Tbh I start to ask in interviews if places do this team building culture shit and if so i know it's a waste of my time bc this isn't a business it's grown up daycare

    • @ITBEurgava
      @ITBEurgava 9 днів тому

      Dystopian, even.

  • @David-bi6lf
    @David-bi6lf 7 місяців тому +42

    I was recently made redundant in the UK and am sick of sifting through jobs marked as remote to then find its actually hybrid hidden somewhere in the spec. I had one the other day worded like "you MUST attend office 2 days per week or do not apply". Most remote roles have gone. There are very few roles where I live and my work can be done remotely so why not. They are also limiting the pool of people that can work for them.

    • @David-bi6lf
      @David-bi6lf 7 місяців тому +11

      @M.RalphSchmidt yes as they would all require long commutes and transport is expensive in the UK.

    • @wulfsorenson8859
      @wulfsorenson8859 7 місяців тому +7

      This just happened to me! I was made redundant from my remote job and can’t find another one! It’s only hybrid or in office now. This is forcing me to either remain unemployed or relocate to the big towns or large cities where rents and house prices are no longer affordable.

    • @reanukeeves2k77
      @reanukeeves2k77 7 місяців тому +2

      I’d recommend applying for these roles anyway. You’d be surprised how far some companies will bend their requirements for the right candidate. I’ve seen people get an offer who aren’t even in the same country where the job was originally advertised!

    • @darksideblues135
      @darksideblues135 7 місяців тому +1

      I'm seeing more remote jobs than ever.

    • @wulfsorenson8859
      @wulfsorenson8859 7 місяців тому +4

      @@darksideblues135 then you clearly need your eyes tested 👓

  • @mikem4432
    @mikem4432 7 місяців тому +11

    Corporate America is sick sad.. and failed.

  • @saulgoodman2018
    @saulgoodman2018 7 місяців тому +18

    And just 4 years ago, they were saying the exact opposite.

  • @adamc.2987
    @adamc.2987 7 місяців тому +17

    Yes, thinking BEYOND each quarter is too complicated for the 'leadership'. Meanwhile, the investors have never and will never give a F about the people who are actually doing the work to make them money.

  • @CrunchyNorbert
    @CrunchyNorbert 7 місяців тому +10

    Imagine how all that commercial real-estate being sold off for housing units would affect the cost of housing... oh nosies! People can afford a place to live now!
    Can't have that!

  • @CrimeBeanus
    @CrimeBeanus 7 місяців тому +20

    Most of the people that had the discipline and skill to learn and work these technical roles do not need motivation to do their job. They got here, they have the skills, and WANT to achieve. By this stage most of them have wired their dopamine system to getting solutions and incremental improvements implemented and working. Being in an office to get your workers to do their job is not necessary and a complete distraction.

    • @jlogan2228
      @jlogan2228 2 місяці тому

      What's more is you take someone out of their home office which is tailored to their liking to maximize comfort and productivity and cram them into a small cubicle surrounded by noise with a desk they don't like and a chair that isn't comfortable making them wear clothes they don't want to wear, and if they get caught up they are forced to sit there and pretend to be busy while hiding the fact they are just watching Netflix vs being able to get up stretch their legs, throw some laundry in, and get back to work

  • @neo5kali
    @neo5kali 7 місяців тому +14

    I was so much more productive when I worked remote. These daily 1-2 hour commutes are an energy sucker. Then, when I get to the office the internet doesn't work!

    • @maryfields1382
      @maryfields1382 7 місяців тому

      @@Meatbot Don't forget the office SuperBowl pool, March Madness Grids, baby shower donations, retirement gift donations, house-warming donations, Secret Santa, pot lucks, blah blah blah.

    • @Te3time
      @Te3time 3 місяці тому

      If they want ppl in the office they should count commute as work hours anything else is a scam

    • @jlogan2228
      @jlogan2228 2 місяці тому

      Not even just the commute but the time it takes you to wake up early enough to get ready and out the door. If you commute for 30 min and your shift starts at 8 you better get up at 630 so you can shower, get dressed, have time to tend to the kids, have time to get organized and out the door and give yourself a 10-15 minute buffer for traffic and maybe you get logged in at 8:01 bc you couldn't find a parking spot
      Meanwhile wfh means if my shift starts at 8 I wake up at 730, let my dogs out, make some breakfast pour some coffee and am logging in at 7:57 every day like clockwork fresh and ready to go and not stressed tf out

  • @Oxxygen_io
    @Oxxygen_io 7 місяців тому +11

    People at home don’t work. At work we race in our office chairs 🚽

  • @cyanogen7582
    @cyanogen7582 7 місяців тому +14

    My office also has had RTO mandates lately. My supervisors aren't a fan of these mandates. These supervisors don't report anyone who doesn't come in :). I am blessed.

    • @darksideblues135
      @darksideblues135 7 місяців тому +1

      God is watching over you.

    • @unfortunatelyiamsane
      @unfortunatelyiamsane 7 місяців тому +1

      my last job was the same way. my managers didn’t want to go back in to the office and did everything they could to delay the process

  • @AdamBorseti
    @AdamBorseti 7 місяців тому +11

    "We need you to come back to the office because it's important us and the company."
    *Shows up*
    "Today's task is office chair bumper cars! Hooray!"

  • @ShawnC.W-King
    @ShawnC.W-King 7 місяців тому +6

    What a waste of fuel.. for a damn chair race 🙄

  • @travist.7279
    @travist.7279 7 місяців тому +8

    Bosses only want RTO, so they can go back to having workers under their thumb.

  • @drrodopszin
    @drrodopszin 7 місяців тому +15

    I got remote radicalized it seems. But you know what's fun? If the company pays for the quarterly team meeting, get to together and planning in a nice place. They can pay for it when they no longer pay extremely expensive offices.

  • @Steve-ev6vx
    @Steve-ev6vx 7 місяців тому +5

    The chair thing looks like an easy way to get a workers comp claim...

  • @gabrielgaspar3744
    @gabrielgaspar3744 7 місяців тому +6

    I've been completely oblivious to all this. In my country we've been back to offices since mid-2021. "To hells with COVID, may those who shall die die already" was the silent motto back then. We've been all back to our miserable office lives and unhappy since then.

  • @TheFishman3226
    @TheFishman3226 7 місяців тому +9

    It's about corporate realestate prices and middle managers justifying their roles. Nothing more, nothing less. You want me to help meet your goals? Treat me like I am an adult.

    • @raketensven3127
      @raketensven3127 7 місяців тому

      you want to be treated like an adult? Eat the pizza crust 1st!!

  • @infini.tesimo
    @infini.tesimo 7 місяців тому +9

    It's amazing what they will do to protect their real estate investments instead of just selling it or repurposing it for another line of business that makes sense for in person jobs.

  • @romanzadgk
    @romanzadgk 7 місяців тому +6

    I live so close to work anyway that I was one of the few that didn't care about RTO. Even before seeing this video I could tell, just from experience, that my productivity declined when I was in office. It's so easy to get side tracked by small talk, or book in "coffee catch-ups" 💀 You just LOOK like you're productive because the seniors might see you pass them by in the office, but you're actually just on your way back from a pointless trip to a mate's desk.

  • @cod-the-creator
    @cod-the-creator 7 місяців тому +6

    It was never about improving performance, it was always about being able to fire people without firing them.

  • @thebigb1286
    @thebigb1286 7 місяців тому +9

    It's weird, in my office efficiency, productivity and such are irrelevant. Attendance and attitude are. I'm not joking. I wonder what it's like in these offices. Might be fun to do a job swap.

    • @timothygibney159
      @timothygibney159 7 місяців тому

      @@Meatbotwe let go of a team member who was 10 minutes late all the time and was the most productive who got the most done. They took away wfh and he got an attitude as a result. They don’t want complainers and need team players. Our projects are fed now

  • @iceyone4442
    @iceyone4442 7 місяців тому +3

    It is about control and shareholder profits - companies could save so much money by not paying office rents. My last boss mandated rto 5 days a week - I quit within a month.

  • @justgivenofox9543
    @justgivenofox9543 7 місяців тому +6

    Working from home with increased productivity then you force all your employees to come back to the office while dangling their jobs(livelihoods) over their heads if they don’t show up
    WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?!?!?!

  • @the-code-alchemist
    @the-code-alchemist 7 місяців тому +9

    People leave their employer to get a job where they don't have to come to the office as often.
    Employers who don't adapt will learn this the hard way

    • @unfortunatelyiamsane
      @unfortunatelyiamsane 7 місяців тому +1

      right

    • @debeb5148
      @debeb5148 7 місяців тому

      Or maybe you'll realize wfh is a fad and employers are still going to make you work how they want eventually

  • @dmcoub78
    @dmcoub78 7 місяців тому +2

    They easily can convert offices to residential. Only issue is with the huge downtown high rise building, apparently it's more cost effectively to tear them down and rebuild the building then repurpose the piping system

  • @jackcarraway4707
    @jackcarraway4707 7 місяців тому +6

    "Give the peasants pizza parties and team building activities and they'll never rebel."

  • @michellevalois8412
    @michellevalois8412 7 місяців тому +3

    Managers once again demonstrating they are so overworked they have time to organise this nonsense.

  • @RvcC-cu1zh
    @RvcC-cu1zh 7 місяців тому +4

    I came up with a revolutionary team building exercise that will make all employees excited to go back to the office. MMA cage match with management, one round per ever 15 minutes wasted on commuting.

  • @Nightjar726
    @Nightjar726 7 місяців тому +16

    Would be great if you could do something on unemployment. So many companies and laying off thousands and I know from people around me it’s horrible.
    But they are lying about the economy and unemployment being low.

    • @YouMissedBro
      @YouMissedBro 7 місяців тому

      When you ignore 10 million able bodied men who are not looking for work, or the hundreds of thousands who were displaced by not taking the jab when their companies were bribed into forcing it, you get Bidenomics

    • @seyumaiayami3536
      @seyumaiayami3536 7 місяців тому +5

      The latter very true. I got unemployment pretty quick, but the job market sucks and fake job ads.

    • @timothygibney159
      @timothygibney159 7 місяців тому +1

      This is the best job market in history. My employer can’t find qualified workers as no one wants to work anymore. You should be able to find a new role within a week

    • @Nightjar726
      @Nightjar726 7 місяців тому

      @@timothygibney159 yeah totally. Wages are way up and there are so many jobs that when you go on LinkedIn there are zero applicants.

  • @Eliza-io8lr
    @Eliza-io8lr 7 місяців тому +3

    My employer owns the office buildings. During the pandemic - until the spring of 2022, I worked exclusively remotely while they were remodeling the building to convert it into an open office space that can accommodate only 80% of the employees. Then they asked us to be in the office once a week (or in total 4 times per month, very flexible) out of fear that other departments that don't have such nice offices will demand to occupy them. Then, they installed low resolution cameras above each desk of the open office space (claiming that the cameras cannot recognize face features) to monitor attendance. It is confusing. On the one hand, they seem to be relaxed with RTO and on the other hand they install cameras. I do not know what to expect next.

    • @raketensven3127
      @raketensven3127 7 місяців тому +1

      You can expect a "productivity" report and them telling you that you've been on the toilette too often/long..

  • @norcal9706
    @norcal9706 7 місяців тому +4

    You’re one of my favorite channels on UA-cam and you do a great job being creative throughout the years and informing the people about corporate corruption and BS
    I was laid off from Formerly Facebook after I signed a brand new contract. To get rid of me they put me on probation for 2 weeks and doubled my metrics to hit to guarantee I won’t pass. I sacrificed my health to that company and they preached being a family everyday
    Salute to you Sir (Josh) 🤙😇😎

  • @becca-dn4vs
    @becca-dn4vs 7 місяців тому +3

    Office makes anyone soooo soo tired. Its not about work but everything else like colleagues. I have the worst colleagues

  • @eberronbruce1328
    @eberronbruce1328 7 місяців тому +3

    The logic of turning office buildings into apartments makes sense. However, the cost of doing so is extraordinarily high, in a lot of cases it could require gutting the entire building or tearing it down and rebuilding it which is not economically feasible. The reason is all the internal infrastructure such as plumbing, gas lines, electrical, etc.. if it wasn’t for the cost, there will be a lot of real estate investors rubbing their hands on the collapsing commercial real estate. It would be easier to convert those office buildings into storage units.

  • @forgottenamericana
    @forgottenamericana 7 місяців тому +4

    I'll live poor and no job before I ever RTO

  • @kvasir8931
    @kvasir8931 7 місяців тому +3

    How about this. If you force your employees to work at the office when they can just as easily work remote, then commuting time is work time. Either you get overtime pay for the time it takes to commute or your time commuting each day is part of your 8 hour work schedule.

  • @MrMustang1116
    @MrMustang1116 7 місяців тому +6

    Obviously there are some jobs that cant be done work from home. Baristas cant pour amazing latte art from home, line men and women cant fix power lines remotely, catching fish needs skilled sailors. you know what doesn't need in person input? The 5th meeting today taking me away from ironing out tickets on why people cant access the company website. That is actual money being wasted by something we own being down. I can fix it almost anywhere so long as I have internet access. The iron grip they want over me, stifles my performance to treat the issue we have like the puzzle it is that I get paid to fix. And the in office meetings hurt that tremendously.

    • @markarca6360
      @markarca6360 7 місяців тому +1

      Every rule has its own exception. These are textbook examples of onsite jobs.

    • @idontcare9797
      @idontcare9797 7 місяців тому +2

      Let's be real their are no line women.

  • @AIBot929
    @AIBot929 7 місяців тому +1

    I've rotated in and out of my office all durning the pandemic, at first it was 2 weeks in 2 weeks out, now it's 1 week in 1 week out... but I am in office 10 days a month. I got new managers and they are demanding a full time rto... and can't come up with any reason for this every time we question it, there is always someone in the office. It's just so they can micro manage, but the kicker is these managers work from home and aren't even in the same state as my team smh

  • @sgs8747
    @sgs8747 7 місяців тому +8

    This is why I wish the US would have the unionization rates it did back in our grandparents time where we could bargain for WFH as part of the contract.

    • @wulfsorenson8859
      @wulfsorenson8859 7 місяців тому +1

      Wouldn’t make any difference. I’m in Europe and the same thing is happening here.

    • @sgs8747
      @sgs8747 7 місяців тому +1

      @@wulfsorenson8859 Interesting. Are unions not pushing back and including some remote flexibility as a must-have in negotiations?

    • @wulfsorenson8859
      @wulfsorenson8859 7 місяців тому +1

      @@sgs8747 definitely not. It’s mostly hybrid now or back to the office.

  • @boopro12
    @boopro12 7 місяців тому +3

    Ok three days a week I would kill for. Im in the trades and am headed towards working 14 days straight (Utility company). BUT... I have a reason to be there. Not just playing games and screwing around. When I go to work its for a reason.

  • @Jinxyoutoheaven
    @Jinxyoutoheaven 7 місяців тому +2

    I’m really starting to think this is all about control.

  • @TravisNewton1
    @TravisNewton1 7 місяців тому +3

    I don’t think a study was needed for this. It’s like doing a study that the sky is blue, water is wet…

  • @ExecuteBrandon
    @ExecuteBrandon Місяць тому

    I can conduct a study to show anything I want. Employers allowed remote work to get out of control. Now they have no idea how to deal with it.

  • @seyumaiayami3536
    @seyumaiayami3536 7 місяців тому +3

    Like two people know my name at the office and my supervisor doesn't even talk to me. I don't see the point and the bathroom is so far away, get up an hour before, get ready, make up, get there and sit for an hour. Like, why? My 4AM to 1PM shift already makes me dead tired as soon as I get home. I make more money than before, but also put strain on vehicle and need repairs along with gas. Taking an Uber is 10 bucks each way. Lots of fun guyz.

  • @ticenits1926
    @ticenits1926 7 місяців тому +1

    You’ll definitely never be able to convert an office into an apartment without fully re-engineering all of the plumbing and electrical.

  • @SuperBoomshack
    @SuperBoomshack 7 місяців тому +2

    It's all to justify paying ridiculous real estate prices

  • @JensenPalmer
    @JensenPalmer 7 місяців тому +2

    “The CEOs like work from home but the shareholders didn’t.” Of course the shareholders don’t like it. Along with their shares in the company itself, they have their fingers in the very buildings of the companies they back. Double profits. If workers don’t come into office, then they can’t justify their investment and lose money.

  • @davidowens1424
    @davidowens1424 7 місяців тому +2

    Return to the office will encourage some people to leave the workforce. Some will start businesses, some will retire and do ... whatever retired people do. It's a sad dystopian world we are headed into.

  • @Bart12x
    @Bart12x 7 місяців тому +3

    How are office activities supposed to make you productive if they're taking you from your tasks?

  • @jpao908
    @jpao908 7 місяців тому +1

    The conversion from commercial to residential is more complex as each unit needs plumbling which is more limited than starting to build from scratch. Not everything is willing to live in a condo/apartment rather they want a single family house (unless everyone is just single or couple with no children).

  • @tacotruffles
    @tacotruffles 7 місяців тому +2

    RTO is stupid if your entire department has to log off their home computers to drive to the office to login to another computer to do their jobs….which can be done entirely on … a computer. 😂

    • @LuciaAIArt
      @LuciaAIArt 7 місяців тому

      I log into the same computer. No reason for me to drive an hour to work remote in the office.

  • @GenoppteFliese
    @GenoppteFliese 7 місяців тому

    Our local mgmt ordered RTO for December, when the weather is cold and wet and flu is high while the health minister begged people to stay at home as many people with lots of different contacts during work reported sick and public transport and the health centers had to close down. Even kids in primary school are smarter than our mgmt.
    I'm still refusing to RTO while my direct manager is fully working from office again. The next yearly review might be my last one in this company ...

  • @AnubisJehuty
    @AnubisJehuty 6 місяців тому

    Exactly! they call us into the office to clown around. And it's so true, that on these office days people do everything they can to avoid working. Home office every day!

  • @Jupiterxice
    @Jupiterxice 7 місяців тому +3

    Like you need a study for this???? Nobody wants to work in a prison office no matter how much companies gaslight and throw virtue signaling.

  • @Ayyy-lmao
    @Ayyy-lmao 7 місяців тому +2

    I do as little as possible at home and do as little as possible in the office who cares? not me

  • @PipoZePoulp
    @PipoZePoulp 7 місяців тому +2

    I hate those clown hours.
    There are two people NOT participating in those self inflicted ridicule sessions; your boss, and the psychologist charged with singling out who's sticking out and thus not part of the "corpo culture".

  • @Seawiz21
    @Seawiz21 7 місяців тому +1

    Working remotely really was the last chance they had at keeping the workforce happy.

  • @witblitsfpv1265
    @witblitsfpv1265 7 місяців тому +2

    Gee I wonder why? Seems all that "collaboration" doesn't make a difference after all.

    • @trumpetbob15
      @trumpetbob15 7 місяців тому +3

      Oh, folks collaborated all right - "hey, did you see that play in the game last night?" Just cause you are in the office doesn't mean you are actually working, no matter how many CEOs think it does!

  • @stardarkk
    @stardarkk 7 місяців тому

    my company this week finds out if we are going back to office.. its going to make headlines if we do. alot of people will quit.

  • @jenniferk3286
    @jenniferk3286 7 місяців тому +1

    I'm also in the desert working from my RV. There isn't enough money/incentive in the world to make me want to go back to working in an office. Also if I did go into the office and we wasted time doing chair races I would be seriously pissed off.

  • @aurinator
    @aurinator 7 місяців тому +3

    I've come to completely agree with your opinions on RTO, but I was admittedly skeptical at first because I very much lucked out on my first post-college position Software Engineering where we did strict Pair Programming. So at least there I honestly enjoyed coming into the office specifically for that. No other company following there has done anything remotely similar and it's even discouraged. It is actually possible though IMO, just ridiculously rare - borderline nonexistent from my experience too.

    • @darksideblues135
      @darksideblues135 7 місяців тому +1

      Pair program is super slow. Did it a few times and the next thing I know I was coding my coworkers projects along with mine.
      I'm a lone wolf. I work better that way.

    • @sexygeek8996
      @sexygeek8996 7 місяців тому +1

      I could never tolerate pair programming.

  • @TheJacobJordan
    @TheJacobJordan Місяць тому

    The office space to apartments actually would be fairly simple. Just need mass installs and revamps of plumbing and HVAC systems depending on the size of the building

  • @TGC1775
    @TGC1775 7 місяців тому +4

    Gotta justify them big offices? 😂

  • @Whoo711
    @Whoo711 7 місяців тому +1

    A chair race!
    WOW
    That'll really get me to come into the office🤣

  • @TwoP-o8q
    @TwoP-o8q 7 місяців тому +3

    Chair races are fun... when you're 8 years old!

    • @raketensven3127
      @raketensven3127 7 місяців тому

      Or when you crash with speed into the pillar and sue them afterwards.

  • @ghostpeppered4524
    @ghostpeppered4524 7 місяців тому +2

    I love the point about shareholders. Workers and unions should just decidedly not purchase RTO stocks. That'd get the point across pretty fast, probably.

  • @taurahelms3068
    @taurahelms3068 7 місяців тому +3

    The chair sliding was a bit cringe.

  • @Ramon609
    @Ramon609 7 місяців тому +1

    When you said Raymond i thought you were talking to me (because i prefer to be called Raymond but without pronouncing the Y or D) it was such a weird experience lol

  • @TheDanLCS
    @TheDanLCS 7 місяців тому +3

    I love the fact that they justify this RTO as a means to resume productivity and they ads are, "come to the office to goof around"...

    • @seyumaiayami3536
      @seyumaiayami3536 7 місяців тому

      I'd rather goof around when I clock out for the day.......but thanks!

    • @debeb5148
      @debeb5148 7 місяців тому

      You know, studies show WFH loses productivity by 25%, right?

    • @TheDanLCS
      @TheDanLCS 7 місяців тому

      @@debeb5148 oh no..................anyway

    • @seyumaiayami3536
      @seyumaiayami3536 7 місяців тому

      @debeb5148 studies? You reading too much NY times? It's increased productivity because mental state is better. You sound like a doofus that talks to one co worker in their cubicle.

  • @briancook6158
    @briancook6158 7 місяців тому +1

    This is all about government mandating CEOs bring people back to the office in order to help local business and reit companies. Follow the money!

  • @Simoss13
    @Simoss13 7 місяців тому +2

    Ah yes, having time to sleep in the morning, able to take my son to school and spend my time and money on transport costs pails in comparison than being forces to smile and push an office chair around with people that don't care about me to deliver results

  • @GothicKitty22
    @GothicKitty22 7 місяців тому

    That mention about how they could turn useless buildings into apartments for people was amazing!

  • @pickyourbrainswithbenjamin761
    @pickyourbrainswithbenjamin761 7 місяців тому +2

    I agree convert the office park's to affordable housing

  • @alphaomega1351
    @alphaomega1351 7 місяців тому +1

    As with everything, management is the problem. The less of these people in this mostly unnecessary useless job role, the better. 😶

  • @TMeyer-ge5pj
    @TMeyer-ge5pj 7 місяців тому

    My workplace made me do a chair race once. It was so awkward and embarassing

  • @gnuPirate
    @gnuPirate 7 місяців тому

    This channel is such a great voice for true FACTS, and against bullshit. Top work, love it. People should just actively avoid and move on from companies with these strict RTO requirements and stick to actual flexible working environments / employers. Pretty soon, if nobody is applying for work at RTO only companies, they might get the message.

  • @chamab.6800
    @chamab.6800 7 місяців тому

    I find it so interesting that folks have to post vids of folks playing, talking and leisure etc at the office. Not that long ago such things were frowned upon. You couldn’t even gather at the “water cooler” too long.

  • @TheRVSN
    @TheRVSN 7 місяців тому +1

    1:40 If any of those 3 persons got injured during the drive on chairs, who would be responsible? I think such behavior is forbidden at school due to health security reasons.

  • @mmmfun77
    @mmmfun77 7 місяців тому +2

    Just remember. Some companies have been caught monitoring employees through their cameras . Just saying

  • @aptigon398
    @aptigon398 7 місяців тому

    As a solutions architect, I'd say the only one thing I would be in the office for is solution architecture design sessions. Not the pampering sessions that make management look good, but actual work hours where only the technical guys get together and really hash out a solution, free from management's interruptions. 1-2 hour of that can give you at least a few sprints and a few weeks worth of work....all or most of which can be done remotely from there on. That is all from me.

  • @LobsterFusion
    @LobsterFusion 7 місяців тому

    Before your Keeps ad i was already thinking your hair was looking pretty good. Way to go man!

  • @alessandromilanesta1157
    @alessandromilanesta1157 7 місяців тому

    "Thrilling chair race"!! Oh god !!

  • @Not_Clark_Kent
    @Not_Clark_Kent 7 місяців тому +2

    Who would have thought?

  • @misteroz
    @misteroz 5 місяців тому

    Some excellent points here, and many I largely agree with - that being said, my own experience has been that WFH has impaired my company’s cohesiveness and productivity. Fortunately there has been no RTO diktat, but I’m I’d be curious to see how effective it would be… My gut tells me that the old days are gone now.

  • @androidboy7
    @androidboy7 7 місяців тому +1

    .... because a "chair race" is more productive than working from home in your pajamas.