CEO ADAM SCHWAB - "WHY WORKING FROM HOME IS BAD FOR YOU"
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I'd read, but I refuse to give him any engagement.
@@pablodelsegundo9502 agreed
Love your work Josh. Im going to link a ceo your channel in a report on wfh
One of your best takedowns Josh. Great video!
ANd with that, you already did more research than this CEO
The aspect I find repulsive is that most employers morally act as if they’re our parents. This is absolutely detestable.
And to think, they expect you to give them 2-4 weeks notice before quitting, but can let you go in a minute.
One of the issues with many in management positions is simply that they aren't too bright (hence why they manage and too incompetent to do real, actual, bonafide, work).
Quit then. Leave
I did, many years ago, then started my own business. (then the douche bags in the govt decided to destroy it because of a bug with a 99.95% survival rate).
@neal cassady Agreed, it's definitely always a scheme by companies to be letting go of as many employees as they can. It's the easiest way for them to cut costs.
@@moisessoriano6658 people are quitting and it’s one of the main reasons why we are having supply chain issues……..you sure you want people to quit? 😂
At no point in my career has my relationship with my co-workers been more important than my compensation. Friendships don't pay my bills bro. I like that you talk about these things because there's way too many people who think that you should live to work and that everything about you is defined by being physically present working for someone.
At work...you can have plenty of money or plenty of friends...i already have friends
Then tell all of your coworkers to stop talking and go back to work.
@@AFuller2020 Yeah, that's fair. But then I run the risk of said coworkers going to my boss and saying that I'm causing a negative work environment because I'm not contributing to a collaborative culture.
Believe it or not, but the work family came about in the 70's. That's about when most shows on tv changed from a family interactions to work interactions. This normalized that work and the interactions made there took precedence over personal interactions and priorities. That work is where you find your most fulfilling role and meaning in life.
They why do people hang around the office talking about their dogs/houses/health problems? I go in solve a problem and move on. the newer grads want to hang around and talk about their feelings, who cares?
"Connecting with coworkers is more important than a pay raise"
Just accepted an offer for a new job with a 10% pay bump and I'm 100% not worried about seeing my coworkers ever again.
Lol same
We don’t have coworkers unfortunately, we have competitors.
I took a position with more than a 50% pay increase. I liked some of my old coworkers, even became actual friends with some of them. But I can talk to them outside of work, and that's been working just fine, haha
Everyone feels that way. Co-workers are like roommates. In Russian they call such people acquaintance (Приятель) pree-ya-tel , the actual word translates as a friendly acquaintance or something like that. Basically, they're people you're friendly with but can easily lose for whatever reason; moving changing jobs, etc. Work friends are only so close. There's nothing wrong with this IMHO. Americans want everyone to be their friend all the time and it's annoying. Real friends stick around even after you leave and life changes. You know who your real friends are. You should spend you energy and time on them and your family.
Then why are you looking at this channel? Are you gloating? if I was happy with my gig I wouldn't be watching anti-wfm vids.
It must drive these people crazy to not be in absolute control of other human beings 8 hours a day.
absolutely a control thing. i think it's time we get rid of these boomers.
at least 8 hours
@@majesticglue9100 - They exist in all age groups. We call them "controllers" or just "stupid people" (the root of all evil: stupid people)
@@davestorm6718 Narcissistic people. Be careful of them, they want control over people in every possible way including manipulation and lies.
@@majesticglue9100 The boomers are hanging on way too long. They're really bottlenecking the higher paying jobs. They're sick in the head to begin with and on top of that they didn't save enough money for retirement so now they're working well past. I personally know a few boomers who are refusing to retire. I know a couple of people who are technically Silent Generation years and are still working in their mid 80's.
Working from home is heaven sent lmao I feel like I can communicate better that way, because I'm just too socially awkward. I was never excelling in offices, but since I began working at home I've been promoted twice 😄
It's all coming to a end!
Nice, Amanda! That totally defeats their narrative that you never get promoted if you WFH 👍🏻
good for you! that’s incredible
Working from home has been a game changer for me. As someone on the autism spectrum, I no longer have to worry about masking all day which is mentally and physically exhausting, among other things that used to cause me some anxiety at the office. Weirdly, I've found it far easier to communicate with team members remotely as well. The best part is being able to have my own setup that is comfortable for me, and have more frequent (albeit small) breaks. It doesn't ruin my focus. No, I don't work in my pyjamas and never have done! It would be great to see more companies going with the freelance-style approach of "here's the deadline, I don't care when/where/how you do this task, so long as it's done on time and to a high standard".
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What Freya said
And suddenly, you have completely impossible deadlines and unreasonable standards of quality. As great idea as freelance style approach sounds, it would turn nightmare, because as an employee, you can't tell your boss "go to hell". As a freelancer you can, because there is another project just around the corner.
@@looseycanon You make a very good point.
@@looseycanon so.... capitalism? if you want something better and to high standard, you gotta pay. Besides, being in office and salaried, the deadlines are still ridiculous and yeah, you still have people just leave right at 5 despite the work still needing to be done.
If having work friends is more important to workers than money, then why the hell do so many CEO’s make 600 + times the amount of money their average worker does???
These CEO’s that write this crap talk out of both sides of their mouth. It just depends on what their narrative is depends on what they spew!!
Guess these CEOs must feel REALLY unimportant.
they are psychopaths
Things that have made me better at my (permanently remote) job: quiet atmosphere so I can write and think and string thoughts together, comfortable furniture, natural light, pets (much better than talking about traffic with coworkers), non-freezing temps, working on my plants at the end of the day instead of sitting in traffic, and not contributing to unnecessary emissions. That guy is a dinosaur.
"non-freezing temps" This. So much this. My last job was a nice office. That was kept at a nice, cold, temperature. I hated it. Middle of summer and I would be shivering.
They use cold temperature on purpose to make employees upset, to mock them and to say like "we decide". The fact that they are shameful in an absolute way shouldn't be forgotten
Working from home is the only way to live a happy life. I will never go back to working in person.I live near the highway and I take my afternoon break outside just watching the rush hour traffic. Thousands of cars just sitting there. Millions of collective hours wasted. No more.
@@hakanitogalatasaray5349 I agree, it's like they want us to hate them. They do it as a power trip, like look how much we can do to them and they'll still show up to work. Problem is, people have just been taking it all this time and set the standard. Employers expect employees to put up with it. I would fight with managers at places I worked, telling them I just wouldn't do something. They'd alway respond by saying that the person who used to work my position would do that task. Well they must've been crazy because I'm not doing it lmao.
@@chrisjohnson3967 No doubt they have huge psychological problems. I can only congratulate you for fighting against their pressure. As I said they are miserable. The way they are can be seen in the initial tests they do too. Tests with threats, lot of tests, lot of questions in few time, for laughable wages. We can say it, they are laughable 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭🤣😂🤣😭🤣😭😂😂🤣😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love working from home, to minimally talk with coworkers and would much rather see a pay raise than office perks or having to socialize.
no doubt!
ikr??!! my boss acts as if everyone at the office are extroverts and insists we need to come back
I love the way people who can’t operate their business without workers to fill tasks use “task filler” as a derogatory term.
It called doing work.
Would you rather be a task filler? Or a masked yeller?
I'm sure everyone that HAS to go to the office would appreciate less traffic on the road from everyone that doesn't. 20-30mins compared to 1.5 - 2hrs.
I was thinking the exact same thing! The traffic was so much better during the lockdowns, which save time and makes the commute a lot less stressful. Also it's better for the environment.
@@billmono8021 which begs the question, where are all the articles about how not having to drive to work and commute is less stressful and time saved in driving 10 hours a week, and even the environmental questions? oh right, these boomer ceo's own all the media outlets to try and brainwash all of us. surely we can't have a balanced perspective in news articles about this right
YES..........I have to go and traffic is hell in NJ seriously.
@@TheSoulCrisis it is hell everywhere lol
I've worked from home for 13 years now, and honestly I am way more productive than being in an office. Any time I do go into the office I find it to be pretty distracting and my productivity goes down the toilet. This said, I do think there are specific jobs (or people) that do benefit from being in a collaborative environment such as an office. There are also people who simply just can't manage their time well and likely should be in the office. There's really no 'one size fits all' answer on this issue.
Yeah I'm one of those that can't manage their time properly.
However, I fully support people working from home if they can and want to.
It's really weird how obsessed CEOs are with leisurely clothing. Like they have some weird fetish about people wearing suits all day.
@@Nerobyrne it’s nothing to do with the clothes, it’s the power & control of being able to tell people what to wear is what they get off on.
Yeah, I started going a bit later to the job, because they don't pay me enough, to wake up early and I don't get that much distracted after most people leave the office. I can properly get in to the zone and work only after people leave me and I can't be micromanaged.
I'm the kind of person who gets distracted easily at home, but I still love working remote cause I can get alot of work done at the public library. The number one reason I wanted to work remote was the ability to move out of my expensive city, moved where the rent is literally half as much and the houses cost a quarter as much.
Oh no your career must be irrepairably damaged by now. People don't follow his example or you'll end up just like him, ie happier, more time with your kids, less wear on your car, and the guilt for being responsible for the collapse of your country and possibly the modern world
I'm getting sick and tired of these stuck up CEO's. Forget about all the benefits to the employee- they already proved they don't care. Then it also benefits the company- I thought a successful business is supposed to run in the most profitable way, what better than this way. But the worst thing is that forcing people to the office is terrible for society between fuel emissions and traffic and I'm sure many other things. Tired of the big ego and micromanagement!
Exactly. His article is as badly written screed of entitled gripping.
Wondering where scoop the mighty is on here: hmmmmmmmmmmmm……probably hanging out on that weasel Mathew cox’s channel.
Agreed, they only want control. I really wish the workforce was in the position to collectively quit these companies and let them starve for a month. It's the only way companies will ever appreciate their emoyees again. It won't happen any other way.
Another “if you wfh, you’re just watching Netflix. And online things never existed until 2020.” Even though I literally did remote online classes back in *2007* lol but tell me more how doing things online is some new concept.
"If you do things online, you aren't doing things." - boomer moment
Same here. My last few university classes were online and that was back in 2006-2007, I graduated in 2007. I have been working remote in IT work since 2013. None of this stuff is new.
Work from home allowed me to go from the warehouse to corporate without having to relocate across the continent. I use the time I save commuting, to study and workout. I have already picked up one IT certificate and am working on a second. The upward mobility I've gotten from my company switching to WFH has been incredible.
@Elizabeth Browne I feel you guys on that seriously!
Bottom line, the companies realize working from home works perfectly for most, how can a company fire you if they cannot put you on their cameras at work, build evidence against you to get you fired at 50 after dedication to said company for 30 years
Nobody’s working for 30 years anywhere. Maybe 3 if you’re lucky.
@@noble7461 I would say 10 years, at that point you're topped out on pay rate, have all the benefits and vacation time you're going to get, usually at that point you become a major liability to all companies
@@nightfangs2910 Don't go past 3 before you start looking. 10 is too long. You get entrenched into their way to do things rather than learn multiple ways. Each job hop generally nets anywhere from 15-30% raises. Far more than the typical 3% yearly you get by staying.
Eat ze bugs, work in cubicle, own nothing, be happy.
Love your stuff Josh. Never stop calling out these asshats.
Just remember, if they can't see you earning them a portion of their yacht payment, you are literally a waste of oxygen.
You'll own nothing and be happy! Except me, I get to own the things I rent out to you or use for leisure.
@@DerMeister821 Exactly! And the rent ain't getting any cheaper.
@@DerMeister821 I love how people are aware of the situation! we need to wake up the rest
Westinghouse wasted $100ks on their offices in Rock Hill SC, before laying 80% of the staff off.
Why are all these manager / owners who do not want their employees to work at home feel the need to hide behind false considerations for their employees? Shouldn't they just say, "I am the boss of you, you must obey me!" or "We have invested in too much corporate real estate. Work in the office until we can unload it." or "Work from the office, not your home, until I can offshore your job to some other country where I will never know if your job is done in a home, a boiler room or a cubicle farm."
Because they have to make it seem like they give a shit. Virtue Signaling 101.
Because if they did that, people would quit in droves. They need to act like they care to get people to stick around.
@@erubin100 Are there any employees left out there delusional enough to think these employers give a rat's a$$ about them? Seriously?
@@RuthmarieHicks surprisingly, yes. there is a disturbing number that are. just look on linkedin.
@@erubin100 That's scary..
Never UberEats again. DoorDash is where it's at, but with 2022 delivery fees pretty much matching the cost of my meal, I'm back to cooking most meals while WFH.
This is amusing because I found out today that my management group is talking about expanding our WFH amount due to the number of folks who live out of county and the gas/inflation level being what it is. We've proven ourselves over the last 2 years, so braying about nonproductivity isn't even on the table.
If you have to see your employees working (not their work) don’t pretend you have a company. You have a kindergarten.
My entire team finds working from home more productive. When we meet up for lunch and go into the office for meetings, the entire day is consumed by casual conversations unrelated to work.
Exactly and almost nothing gets done realistically. If you guys met up everyday, the amount of offtopic would go down, but it would not be very much.
same, and people get offended at office if you call them out for interrupting you...oof
Yes, please, give me back my 4 hour commute in traffic plus waking up early, plus the time to prepare food plus no time for anything else. Yes.
People who finish working at 4:30 pm typically started their day 8:30am or earlier. What’s wrong with finishing one’s workday and making dinner?
I’m a task filler and I love it. I fill tasks that my company needs done with joy every day. Companies will always need tasks done. And if my company can figure out how to automate my tasks, I will go work for company that has tasks to fill. There will always be tasks to fill.
"Real connections with colleagues are far more important (to most people) than a pay rise", Amazing every word of what you just said was wrong
Working from home saves me money on gas, food, and childcare ❤️ not to mention avoiding the nuisance that is coworkers and office culture
I'm so tired of old corporate boomers. Old men terrified of their last days on earth, knowing that the end is creeping closer, they fight for any scrap of relevancy while also trying to ensure that their "legacy" continues after they are dead...everyone must do what they say after they are pushing up daisies because they can still hear and see you on earth...this is why tradition must die. Along with religion, fascism, neoliberalism, and all that rot.
A lot of these jobs that are not considered "WFH" will be non-existent as AI, Machine Learning, and optimization in the labor force improves. Nurses and Doctors can telehealth now, teachers can teach virtually, truck drivers are technically remote workers and don't have to sit in a cubicle or an office 8+ hours and can work independently, chefs can set up ghost kitchens and run a restaurant in their house and survive off Uber Eats, and manufacturing work is going to eventually be replaced by robots anyway. This is so stupid, it's not about advancement in labor or technology it's about micromanagement, extreme capitalism, and CEO cult personality ego worshipping.
Faaax......you hit all the right points sista!
I had a job doing product photos during the pandemic. The CEO and the manager lady refused to let marketing work from home because they wanted to “see our faces” which is some kind of short hand for “I’m lonely, I let myself go physically because my inflated sense of power here caused me to get comfortable, my spouse no longer has that glimmer in their eye for me so I find solace in small talk with employees that only fake laugh at my jokes to be nice. I need you here because I don’t have anyone else that I can corner into a canned response to my weekend plans to go see my sister who I compete with through material acquisition. We back hand each other with compliments while our kids run around and we both wonder secretly if we made the best choices for our lives.” Something like that. No one was safe about it at all, I just wanted to come in and shoot the photos or shoot them at home then edit them on my faster personal computer, away from the coughing women that didn’t wear mask at the very beginning of the pandemic. They would say “it’s not going to kill anyone, you just get sick for a little bit and it goes away.” Nevermind it might kill me I just didn’t feel like being sick for 2 weeks. People are selfish and let their vanity get in the way of other peoples health/ lifestyle choices. I don’t work there anymore, the manager lady eventually got hospitalized from covid. They are about to go out of business I’m pretty sure, I’m glad I don’t work there anymore.
These CEOs can continue to live in fantasy world while I work from home doing the bare minimum while making a six figure salary. It works out for me no matter if they agree or disagree
They say nonsense about helping the company family, you repeat it and do nothing differently. If that's how they play the game then you do it.
Dude, do NOT stop making videos my guy! 👏 👏 👏
He has no choice. That's his limited income. You Tube is slashing income on
These guys are doing us all a service by self identifying as people we would never want to work for. Thank you for spotlighting that.
I would rather be paid an extra 20k and never talk to a fellow employee ever again. I could careless about team building. In my current position i rarely talk to my coworkers outside of work. In my previous entry level job I did with a few friends but it’s like I’m good at home with my circle of friends
I find it funny whenever pro-office workers tell that work from home s*cks since it's always noisy in home, kids are disturbing... as if it was an issue for every single remote worker on the globe, no matter their environment.
They just assume every poor sucker is trying to keep up with the Joneses and chase the American dream...
Exactly! Doors and headphones were invented, both works miracles for noises.
Exactly. The idea that some people have quiet homes is lost on them.
Try telling your landlord that you can’t afford the rent increase, because you opted for time with colleagues, over a pay rise, and see how far you get.
"A study by APA found most workers experience negative mental health effects"- VERY TRUE but nowhere did he mention that this study was only subject to WFH. These are American workers in general lol.
Then he proceeds to state impacts even more pronounced for people living alone. No mention of any study that points to this fact. That is an opinion of his, probably found from some blog he read somewhere.
Also- 99% of us are all task fillers anyway. The overlords have made us task fillers, so why fight against it? I embrace my task filling self.
My wife and I have been working remotely since way before the pandemic. It’s one of the best parts of our lives. Lots of quality time together. Freedom to pack up and live anywhere we want to live next for any reason… I really think they don’t like the level of freedom and power we have when we don’t need them anymore. If we’re not chained to the system what’s going to stop us from leaving when we want to? Nothing. They don’t like that. Too often I see people hiring looking for desperate people so the hiring company has more leverage over them. They do NOT like having less leverage over you. It’s really just about power.
Just wear your track suit to the office. I’m sure they’d love it.
Watching Netflix at 4:30, WTF? When I log off of work I go excercise, meditate and cook dinner. Then MAYBE I’ll watch Netflix, but I would rather go work on my hobbies and side projects. These elitist gatekeepers are just putting their companies on a blacklist.
So many CEO types butt hurt they can't watch over their fiefdom. Is this guy in the office everyday? Does he work from his yacht, or his wonderful vacation resort?
Facts. Where does he actually work at? I doubt he goes to the corporate office every day.
I start a fully remote job next Monday, I'm leaving a company I've been with for 6 years for the flexibility. No more ta
king PTO to goto a dentist or any other doctor appointment.
I'd rather make more money so my wife could be a stay-at-home mom if she wanted to, than have a bunch of friends at work.
They’re only situational friends, anyway.
pay raise is preferred. collaboration can be done over zoom or teams meetings. I have seen nothing showing that working from home causes a loss in productivity.
So, promotions are subjective to ass-kissing, we all knew that already. I've never heard of a colleague staying in the same job just because of "friends", everybody moves to a higher quality job if the opportunity presents.
99 problems and a friend ain’t one.
Some corporate cultures provide a dangerous place to make friends. While you take the time to get to know someone, others will take the time to stab you in the back. There is no "real" connection available when there is a revolving door or a toxic culture. Just because a company talks about its amazing culture doesn't mean it isn't toxic. You have to have a lot of empathy to become aware that what people are telling you is sometimes who they are. If the boss has all these funny stories where someone is hurt or someone is made to feel stupid or someone is manipulated or abused. This is when you learn who your dealing with. Don't try to be friends with that.
Very well said
Some of these CEO's want to bring people back to the office because they want to reduce their headcount and not pay severance. Didn't Elon Musk announce a reduction in staff just recently?
Working in a tracksuit is amazing. Working in shorts without underwear and that t-shirt that looks like it went through a warzone but is comfortable AF is even better!
"A study shows that" = trust me -bro- colleague
I drive a truck. Local currently. But I did the OTR thing for the first few years.
Dude you got me good when you said truck drivers are sort of working from home.
You ain't wrong. Lol.
Instant like!
Surprised you haven't posted about Better having potential legal issues with how they are still trying to go public.
I can't imagine how being collaborative in the office would be better as a developer. The ability to easily hop on Teams and share my screen while the other person googles shit for me, it's a game changer. I wouldn't want to unhook my laptop and walk over to someone elses office and sit awkwardly in their extra chair just to get help with a problem
I have been working from home for 2;years and I got in the best shape I've been...I feel happier as I can spend what would've been commute time working out before punching in for work. I work more hours at work because I know at the end of the day I don't have a long tiring drive...I see my family more which makes me happy...I can walk out into my yard on my breaks for my zen moment...overall healthier, happier. Get more sleep because I don't have to wake up as early ..
These boomer elitists can shove off with coming back to the off crap. Here is something that you cannot put a price on, your time with your child. Working from home I can spend my lunch time taking my child to the library for story time or to the park. The child can come into my office when I work. That time and those memories are priceless, and being physical there so your kid can you see as they grow is extremely valuable to their development especially really young children. That connection with your child is something you cannot buy with money.
People at work, especially for men, are not your friend or family, in an age where a single accusation could cost you your job.
misery loves company. They want you to feel horrible like they do
Is Adam some distant family of Klaus Schwab? AKA You will own nothing and be happy
WFH saves commuting, so you don't need to pay high gas, it helps many parents be able to stay home with their kids and not pay childcare, helps you eat better and save on eating out....there's many benefits to working from home, it's a huge blessing.
This is why I love your videos and why I feel that you are important. You break down the corporate BS. These managers and “leaders” words are carefully chosen to persuade and if you don’t understand sales tactics, paying attention to claims with nothing to back it up, persuasion, passive aggressiveness or manipulation it will be tough to see through what they are doing and why it is effective. Josh breaks down the corporate jargon so you don’t have to!
Today, as I had to do some paperwork back in my hometown I was granted working from home for only this day, and believe me. I chose the best scenery and it was absolutely fantastic. I cannot imagine going to office tomorrow with cramed people and cubicles after I had my remote cabin, nice summer day and birds chirping while I was programming...
That guy has a point.
Working from home truly increase isolation and loneliness to toxic levels...
I think some are scared that if people don't have to worry about commute, they can get higher-paying jobs they'd normally have to relocate to. And then their competition pool grows exponentially as far as retaining employees & seeking candidates.
Previously a low-paying and physically-close office would be seen as the only option while remote work was not available. They want the perception that you cannot find remote work and overall to kill the trend if they can.
Basically, wfh does makes employers have to pay more. That's why it tends to be lower-paying jobs of a category, like Tesla, pushing for wfh. And higher-paying jobs with good management, have the resources to filter a larger candidate pool of wfh applicants and find better workers; so they understand how the company can benefit.
Working from home let my mother with cancer keep doing admin work and company orders and sales from home without any health issues or stress. She NEVER slacks off or leave the computer and works just as hard
Why does it matters how we spend our spare time? I go swimming, I read books, I arrange family gatherings etc. There are many things to do with free time. Rather than being lazy. Even if we are lazy, what bothers these idiots.
They care so much about our personal lives yet if we’re depressed or anxious they will say suck it up or depression doesn’t exist or somethinf
As a teacher in a remote-only private tutoring company, I do not know a single one of my colleagues. Sometimes I talk to the office team if I need some paperology done or contact my boss directly when I need help or want to ask for a raise/time off. That is actually the best thing ever. I can focus solely on my work and get it done, without any disruptions. After that, I close my laptop and go meet my friends. This is beyond awesome, and I wouldn't like it any other way.
I have started my current work as a in 2020 and have not seen team in person until last month when we decided to meet up at a new office. Somehow we work collaboratively and get stuff done. Magic
regarding manufacters, nobody saw the german crane operator working from home. it was all the rage on 9gag roughly at 2018s
1:30 What we do with our time outside of work is irrelevant as long as we're meeting expectations as set by the agreement during the hiring process.
Outside of any job I could be driving around, working a different job or starting starting a business, sleeping, jumping on a trampoline, slapping the sausage, searching for Atlantis, eating soap, going to school, or anything else I want. It's not a damn person's business until I neglect my responsibilities, which is why disciplinary action is a thing.
If I'm showing up late or falling asleep on the job, of course it's the company's right to take action if they wish.
The extra time allows me to cook better meals, take additional training, and spend time with my son who is attending classes on K12. Plus we can all eat lunch together. I am getting more work done from home. We communicate and collaborate on teams.
😂 "No one will ever hire me again". So true, but thank you for your sacrifice. We are all thinking what you're saying.
If I was to have to commute it'd cost me or my employer £50 a day minimum. Plus I'd lose 3 hours a day travelling at rush hour.
Keep doing your magnificent job, you are doing more for the workers than Unions or politicians
I hate how the elite are diluting the term "work from home" in the job ads to mean 2 days a week in the office, that's not it. So let's be more specific. We mean *permanent* work from home not their version, "flexible location working". But for most people, they want the first version.
I was hard working and ambitious and have been locked into roles with no growth because they want you to stay stuck. So, no, going into office does not guarantee anything.
Honestly depending on your persona work from is quite great cause you get more time for yourself that you can use that time to build another source of income and spend more time for family .I agree with your take 100%
I was working for a company that catered for French speakers, it was an office based in London but just before the pandemic we were ''let go'' because the 50 jobs were transfered to Morrocco... so yeah, that all come in the office or it will go elsewhere doesn't apply.
Working from home provides golden opportunity to perform below things which I was unable to do in pre COVID era :
* Prepare my own food which is definitely healthier and hygienic than my office canteen.
* Going to gym on regular basis while working from home . Earlier I used to stuck in traffic and by the time I was reaching home it was already dinner time.
*Started traveling and going to health clubs and finding life beyond corporate world
*Started creating a passive income and hobby which will be fruitful in coming years.
*Improved mental health because I was away from micromanagement by company managers.
*Most importantly i got an opportunity to distance myself from useless nerd people who will always talk about projects such as coding review , multithreading , tech gadgets , during lunch time .
*Taking naps at regular interval which keeps me motivated and boosted.
watching netflix is still better than sitting in traffic, stressing and raging..
With these rising gas prices, you can get fucked if you think I'm coming into an office lmao.
“Feed off energy” code for extrovert. I’m an introvert. The more you “feed off the energy” the colder and quieter and less productive I get. I hate filler chit chat. I hate filler meetings that waste my time. I hate people who ramble on about unrelated info to stretch out a meeting because they want to feed off the energy and have a captive audience. Maybe if they would let people come to work, do their job, and go home without the bs workers would be more productive.
I work from home in a corporate environment. It's awesome. There is absolutely no reason for me to go into the office and I don't have to... yet.
What I've come to learn is that in person collaboration is great for super small teams that can pivot and decide to do things at any time for any reasons. Being next to each other in that kind of environment is great.
This can't happen in a corporate environment because, like you said, you just get your wings clipped every time you want to change something because your boss, your bosses boss, their boss, the executive suite, they have to decide on ideas you have and they frankly don't care for them because it doesn't fit their corporate narrative that THEY are providing value. Ideas are supposed to be their job, not yours. So, things never get done.
Collecting a check from home while running circles around those around you by providing any value at 10% of your effort is great.
With the other 90% of your effort, you're gonna take time off, go hang out with friends, take care of yourself, start your own business, work on your own things... And nothing will be any different for the corporate company you work for because they're so damn slow anyway.
The outsourcing argument is hilarious. IT companies have been outsourcing and abusing the H1B program for years. Wanting to work from home does nothing to change that. If anything it could help cut costs by not maintaining an office that nobody wants to go to anyway.
Great commentary Josh!
My company does not have an office. No risk of having to come in.
Same!
Oh and the outsourcing thing and acting like its new. There was literally a TV show making a joke about it.
Outsourced - Made by NBC - 2010
one coworker is kind enough to let me do literally everything while he gets paid to just show up, another one joins me in the breakroom every night while i’m trying to destress from ya know, doing everything, and decides the perfect way to cheer me up is to blast his Indian movies at full volume while smacking so loudly on his food i’m amazed it doesnt just go flying everywhere with his spit besides actually down his throat.
if i had the option to be “isolated” working at home everyday rather than deal with these beautiful owners of a singular brain cell shared between them (these are just two examples of my wonderful coworkers…) i’d jump on it in a heartbeat.
You give them loyalty whilst security walks you out of the office. Lol you're use of imagery is awesome Josh.
Lol. I live in the 'Parramatta' that's listed in the article. I am watching this when WFH in my track jumper. But then again it is 12pm and I did finish all my tasks for the day as I don't have "team members" in my ear for 2 hours complaining about the travel to the office or they forgot where they put their pens in their desk (these are actual conversations that happened last week when forced into the office that day)
Since finishing everything, I may go to the gym in a few hours before it get too cold.
The next time a boomer boss says "how do I know they're working if I can't see them", ask them if they've ever been to a restaurant before.
dude. you just speak what I think. not feeling lonely anymore.:))))))). keep it up and maybe we can change the world!
Employers generally don't respect your life. You're an asset and that's it.
The people they like to force into office are unfortunate those who make less than management and they get saddled with paying the ridiculous cost of gas but are not compensated for the added expense of the commute. The people who make the least are paying more. Whereas most flexible remote roles are permitted to managers who dare to judge workers who want to work from home too. Costs the business nothing to allow remote or hybrid flexibility.
Trust me working in a office in a rat cubicle can make you crazy and depressed also.
We’re all task fillers because of the middle management in the first place, they take all agency they get task fillers. What’s missing with WFH is the watercooler talk without which the productivity grows as there’s less time to spend on BS
When I go to office, it's fine. I'll just work on some stuff, hangout with a few friends, etc. However, commuting to office for one and half hours is not worth it. I better stay at home, go to gym in the morning, come back, freshen up, login and do my work with youtube behind. rather than waking up early, standing for one hour in the train. walk 10 mins to the office and repeat this shit in the evening, come back home tired and sleep. What a waste of life.
Companies try to save the smallest amount of money on everything. But when employees dont want to come into office because they work on a Computer anyways ITS Not allowed. Commuting also costs money, time and nerves. The owners are Just suffering from their sunk Cost fallacy of their buildings and force their employees to come to keep the property at a stabile Level