I love Jack's confidence...not arrogance like before he 'drunk jacob's potion'...but just 'knowing' what he needed to do. Best acting job of Matthew fox was the finale...and terry was awesome as always as smokie
"Jacob being the man he is, I'm expected to be a little more surprised. You're sort of the obvious choice, don't you think?" hahahahaha thats such a sick line!!
Me2 Also, I very much like to rewatch the scene where Jack tells Sawyer, that he is sorry for getting Juliet killed ... And than jumps off the boat 😢😢😢
I've been rewatching LOST, and this scene actually made me laugh...with Ben and Desmond doing that almost precision tandem 'drop' right behind Mib/Locke when Kate takes that first shot. This was a great scene all the way around with Jack going toe to toe with Locke about what's going to happen next.
Right here, Jack deduced that Jacob brought Desmond, the one guy in the whole world resistant to the effect of the electromagnetism of the Island, for a reason. He deduced that if Desmond is a failsafe, it means that Desmond is planned on being used to go down into the source and alter something that will change the game. Jack also reasoned that Jacob not telling them about it was Jacob holding his cards close to the vest. Jack's an excellent poker player; he beat con man Sawyer for the medicines (and no nicknames). Jack knew Jacob wouldn't bring Desmond to do the one thing that Smokey wanted, unless it would have an unfavorable impact on Smokey.
Mib depended on Jacob leaving his people in the dark and not "stepping in". Now Jack explains Jacob actually met them and gave them information. His fear was really of Jacob having some ultimate plan to stop mib from leaving.
That "Old Serpent" is obviously not the real John Locke. If by "Old" you mean 2,000+ years old, you're right. I can't tell you how much I hated this guy.
Up until then Smokey felt like he always had the upper hand being indestructible and unstoppable as he is. When Jack says "That's a surprise," it's the first time doubt waves across Smokey's face.
This scene and the scene when Jack stop operating Ben (season 3 i think), are in my opinion Jack's best ones.. Normally is Locke and Ben that stole the show but in these particular scenes Jack is the character that control the audience.. The line "It's a surprise" is just awesome!
its amazing how terry o'quinn has managed to change character and play them both perfectly. You would think when you see him on screen as the man in black you would still see locke, but when i see him in scenes like this, all i see is the man in black and not locke. He does so well at portraying 2 very different characters in the same TV series
I think one of the coolest things about this scene is how it makes use of the rich characterization in Lost. All of the characters in this scene are so well developed that no one needs lines to convey the danger in Jack's plan. Even the exchange between Jack and the Man in Black is pretty minimalistic. This scene works so well because of the 120 episodes that preceded it where these characters were developed. This scene gets to be so over the top because it's grounded in actions these lived in characters would really take. Consider that a doctor walks up to an immortal thousands of year old smoke monster that appears as his rival turned posthumous mentor and threatens him with enough charm that the monster agrees go with him. That takes some setup.
this scene is so epic! fox and Terry are such amazing actors and the music is great as always. I love MIB reaction to hearing Jack's going to kill him he pretends he isn't scared lol and Kate is being a bamf etc
I love the fact that basically when Jacob makes Jack the protector of The Island, Jack understands the rules that are in play and knows exactly what he has to do to make sure Flocke dies. But Flocke doesn't understand because he doesn't has the power of the Island other than knowing that Jacob made it so he couldn't kill the Candidates.
Jack said he didn't feel any different when he became protector. I think those abilities take a long time to discover. Jack told sawyer he was mostly guessing based on what seemed to make sense. Neither Jack or mib knew what would happen and they both agreed the would just have to see who's right. And then they both ended up being wrong
Terry O’Quinn definitely relished playing this evil arch enemy. The embodiment of all the sin and villainy of that island, and the monster we’ve all obsessed about for years. And compounding the fact that Terry had to play a very deeply saddened and lonely man for years and now - without blemishing that original character - he gets to craft a whole new character. He brings a Thanos level of charm and elegance that is equal parts stoic and intimidating. But always of sinister class. A pity he didn’t win for this part but he at least brought one home from season 4.
Unfortunately for Terry Breaking Bad was a hit and Aaron Paul was killing it during lost season 6. they both deserved a supporting actor Emmy that year.
He was annoying till season 4 ending when he finally let go, thats what makes him the best character in the show. The show had a lot of awesome characters but Jack was the best, he went full circle during the show and it didnt happen suddenly, it was painfully slow, he felt his old self die for his new self to come alive. Jack suffered more than most in Lost and thats what made the character, IMO, the best TV character ever.
Mike Inglese John Locke suffered the most actually he had a sad life his dad was a horrible person and his mother was mentally ill and plus John was premature and his farther stole his kidney and was bullied when he was a kid and his dad pushed him out of a building which made him disabled had no caring family was raised in a foster home and a lot of people treated John Locke like less human than any other character John Locke has the most tragic life out of all the characters and at least jack listened to John after a bit of season five I’m glad he did cause that would of made John Locke’s day if he listened to him but he did in the end I like jack in a bit of season 5 and all of season 6 good character in the end in season 4 3 2 1 I hated jacks character but in a bit of season 5 and all of season 6 I like his character
From the moment I saw this scene when I originally saw the episode, I saw FEAR in Flocke's eyes when Jack said "I'm gonna kill you". I've never seen this interpretation of this scene. To me, it's clear as day!
Season 6 was so cool, I mean yeah it had it's flaws, like not explaining certain things in enough depth, but it contained so many bad ass moments like this one. Also, Man in Black/Smokey/Flocke turned out to be one of my favorite Lost characters, he was hardcore.
"And how do you plan to do that?" (Jack looks away, cool as a cucumber) "It's a surprise" Translation, "I got no fucking clue dude I'm making this up as I go along."
The music and tension at the end of this scene is so good .. Locke and jack the two most important faces of lost head to head . Obviously I know it’s not Locke but you get the point
No he knows that removing the cork will take away the islands powers. Even Jacob knew that, because he had the cork designed specifically to stop the flow of water when the cork was removed. The cork wasn't special, it was just a weight for a pressure plate mechanism. The main reason for the structures around the heart of the island was to keep people from being sucked in and turned into smoke monsters. But he could have done that without a cork design. And Jacob had to of tested it during its construction, knowing that removing water from the heart of the island would disable the islands powers. MIB likely lost his abilities during these tests too, but didn't realize it because it was probably a matter of minutes, so he just wouldn't know that he suddenly lost his immortality and ability to be a smoke monster during these tests. Basically, Jacob knew for thousands of years how to kill MIB, he just didn't want to have to, he was always hoping he could change MIB's mind.
@@houseofdny He doesn't know for sure, but he does know that Desmond doing what he did is all part of the plan. Jack knows that he must trust his instincts, because Jacob wouldn't have chose him otherwise. This is why Jack attacks MIB outside of the cave. He knows that's the only choice he has available to him, so that must be the right course of action, and then he realizes MIB is no longer immortal and can be killed, which is what Jack was supposed to do at the right time.
Jack could be such ass at times - impulsive controlling obstinate. But he always tried to do the right thing, no matter what - or in this scenes case, who - got in his way.
I enjoyed Lost for the most part, because of great scenes like this, despite being disappointed by the ending. I dread to think what the quality of the show would have been like without Terry O'Quinn, brilliant actor!
I know just what you mean, even though they look identical I have to keep reminding myself that this is the same actor as Locke. He's very good in the new series 666 Park Avenue too.
Bah, yes she did. She was the one who bloody drove Jack to bothering to kill Smokie, she was the only one who even tried to lash out at him for killing three of their friends, and she was the one who actually ended up killing Smokey and saving Jack (albeit briefly). So I suppose you're right, actually, she didn't steal the scene. BITCH STOLE THE EPISODE!!!! BOOM.
Does anyone know the instrument or the effect used at 1.30 mark? it's a haunting moan they use as like an audio que for MIB, mother or anything prophetic concerning the island.
To make the scene a lot better they should of added bullet holes in FLocke. Kate shoots him atleast 5 times yet there ain't no bullet holes. No holes nothing. But still this wa a powerful scene
What do you mean "drove Jack to bothering to kill him"? I don't remember her making Jack want to do it, I think it was Jack who wanted to himself.. Also, yeah, she's the only one who lashed out at him...why's that a good thing? I think the other guys held back because they KNEW it was pointless to try and shoot him, they're not stupid like her. And yes, she managed to shoot him, which was always a bit of an unfair killing, as his back was turned. Jack's the one who had him distracted though.
Naw, when Jack was stitching her up she said "Locke did this. We have to kill him, Jack." And Jack was like "yehiknow". Well, like Ben said in season 4 after killing Keamy: Sometimes, good command decisions get compromised by bad emotional responses. Kate didn't care for her own safety in lashing out at him, and to me that screams "courageous" and to you it screams "stupid". Look at how terrified Sawyer looked when Kate stopped shooting: that wasn't non-stupidity holding him back. It was fear.
Jack was annoying in Season 2 as well. UNBELIEVABLY stubborn. I simply couldn't help but want to smack him in that one scene where Locke prevented Jack from getting into the room in the hatch where Sayid was beating Ben (Henry) senseless and Jack coerced John to give him the newly-changed combination, pinning him against a wall, not allowing him to press the button.
Wait so was Jack in god mode in these little moments he was the protector but figured out that MiB could loose his own powers when the light was removed and that's why he waited to kill him?
I love how even when Terry has a completely different character, his chemistry with Fox gets BETTER and BETTER. Best actor.
This scene is so hardcore, Jack become such a bad ass this season.
"And then you THINK you're gonna destroy the island" I just love how Jack says this to piss Locke off and when he laughs at his reaction
Bowser from Sonic that’s MIB not locke!
If anybody is Locke at this point it's Jack.
@@tvojamama4888 agreed
That look on MiB's face when Jack says "I'm gonna kill you.", classic.
"It's a surprise." 😂
1:32
"He didn't choose me, I volunteered!" That statement alone disarmed Smokey. Jack wants this. THAT makes Smokey a little nervous.
I love Jack's confidence...not arrogance like before he 'drunk jacob's potion'...but just 'knowing' what he needed to do. Best acting job of Matthew fox was the finale...and terry was awesome as always as smokie
"Jacob being the man he is, I'm expected to be a little more surprised. You're sort of the obvious choice, don't you think?" hahahahaha thats such a sick line!!
Andrew Spencer a little bit of a wink to the audience eh
"That's a surprise" might be one of the best lines of the show, the way Jack says it to fake Locke's face.
I watch this scene sometimes; don’t know why
Ok
Love lost
i've been waiting for you
It's a very moving, powerful scene. I also rewatch the scene where Sawyer tells Jack about having spoken to Jack's father in the Sydney bar.
Me2
Also, I very much like to rewatch the scene where Jack tells Sawyer, that he is sorry for getting Juliet killed ...
And than jumps off the boat
😢😢😢
It's kind of nice that they save up for the moments when Jack just plain tells someone he's going to end them because you know he's a man of his word.
Jack took a leap of faith
After a couple down seasons,Jack Shepard makes his return to bad assery right here.
Jack's such a boss
Yes he is
"Well, this is gonna be interesting!"- best line
I've been rewatching LOST, and this scene actually made me laugh...with Ben and Desmond doing that almost precision tandem 'drop' right behind Mib/Locke when Kate takes that first shot. This was a great scene all the way around with Jack going toe to toe with Locke about what's going to happen next.
Right here, Jack deduced that Jacob brought Desmond, the one guy in the whole world resistant to the effect of the electromagnetism of the Island, for a reason. He deduced that if Desmond is a failsafe, it means that Desmond is planned on being used to go down into the source and alter something that will change the game. Jack also reasoned that Jacob not telling them about it was Jacob holding his cards close to the vest. Jack's an excellent poker player; he beat con man Sawyer for the medicines (and no nicknames). Jack knew Jacob wouldn't bring Desmond to do the one thing that Smokey wanted, unless it would have an unfavorable impact on Smokey.
Only in lost will you tell someone that "you're going to kill em" and the person will say "lets get on with it"
Kek LOST looks like my japanese animes
And now Breaking Bad.
For some reason this exchange reminded me of this dialogue: Gimli: Certainty of death. Small chance of success. What are we waiting for?
When Jack confidently says I'm going to kill you, it's the first time MIB looks uneasy & nervous.
Mib depended on Jacob leaving his people in the dark and not "stepping in". Now Jack explains Jacob actually met them and gave them information. His fear was really of Jacob having some ultimate plan to stop mib from leaving.
"That's a surprise".. LOVE IT.. That Old Serpent looks shocked, scared at Jacks response. .. GREAT STUFF!
That "Old Serpent" is obviously not the real John Locke. If by "Old" you mean 2,000+ years old, you're right. I can't tell you how much I hated this guy.
@@AltezzaGang15 me too, the end was so satisfying
@@AltezzaGang15 of course it is not John, why do you think I used biblical speech 'Old Serpent' huh? Any ideas? Lol...
Up until then Smokey felt like he always had the upper hand being indestructible and unstoppable as he is. When Jack says "That's a surprise," it's the first time doubt waves across Smokey's face.
@@victorpradha9946 let's get on it with it then, shall we?
This scene and the scene when Jack stop operating Ben (season 3 i think), are in my opinion Jack's best ones.. Normally is Locke and Ben that stole the show but in these particular scenes Jack is the character that control the audience.. The line "It's a surprise" is just awesome!
"And you think youre going to destroy the island"
"I THINK?"
"Yeh cause thats not whts gonna happen"
Desmonds reaction to this was life WTF?
XD!
LOL
I like how desmond and ben both drop on the floor at the exact same time xD
its amazing how terry o'quinn has managed to change character and play them both perfectly. You would think when you see him on screen as the man in black you would still see locke, but when i see him in scenes like this, all i see is the man in black and not locke. He does so well at portraying 2 very different characters in the same TV series
It takes balls to say these words directly to Black Monster's face.
Jack is legit a god
Lol 1:25
Ben and desmond are like WTF is going on?
I love the bit where Jack tells him what he's going to do.
You can just see that the MIB wasn't expecting it. Great acting throughout by Terry.
Right after Jack said: "I gonna kill you", it would've been funny if MIB turned into Smokey and killed Kate, Hurley and Sawyer, lol.
@@BillyTheKidLawrence ahahahah
Or at least he started laughing out loud
Actually, they're still technically candidates to replace Jack. That's why Smokey didn't do it. THAT and he was really eager to get off the Island.
"I think??"
MaximumPayne12 that's right because that's not what's going to happen
@@danielmccafferty6807 and what's gonna happen, Jack?
I think one of the coolest things about this scene is how it makes use of the rich characterization in Lost. All of the characters in this scene are so well developed that no one needs lines to convey the danger in Jack's plan. Even the exchange between Jack and the Man in Black is pretty minimalistic. This scene works so well because of the 120 episodes that preceded it where these characters were developed. This scene gets to be so over the top because it's grounded in actions these lived in characters would really take.
Consider that a doctor walks up to an immortal thousands of year old smoke monster that appears as his rival turned posthumous mentor and threatens him with enough charm that the monster agrees go with him. That takes some setup.
Appreciate you putting this video up!
this scene is so epic! fox and Terry are such amazing actors and the music is great as always. I love MIB reaction to hearing Jack's going to kill him he pretends he isn't scared lol and Kate is being a bamf etc
I love the fact that basically when Jacob makes Jack the protector of The Island, Jack understands the rules that are in play and knows exactly what he has to do to make sure Flocke dies. But Flocke doesn't understand because he doesn't has the power of the Island other than knowing that Jacob made it so he couldn't kill the Candidates.
Jack said he didn't feel any different when he became protector. I think those abilities take a long time to discover. Jack told sawyer he was mostly guessing based on what seemed to make sense. Neither Jack or mib knew what would happen and they both agreed the would just have to see who's right. And then they both ended up being wrong
Terry O’Quinn definitely relished playing this evil arch enemy. The embodiment of all the sin and villainy of that island, and the monster we’ve all obsessed about for years. And compounding the fact that Terry had to play a very deeply saddened and lonely man for years and now - without blemishing that original character - he gets to craft a whole new character. He brings a Thanos level of charm and elegance that is equal parts stoic and intimidating. But always of sinister class. A pity he didn’t win for this part but he at least brought one home from season 4.
I agree
Unfortunately for Terry Breaking Bad was a hit and Aaron Paul was killing it during lost season 6. they both deserved a supporting actor Emmy that year.
thanks for posting all the Lost videos
tc (:
I was so high on lost juice during this scene.
This is one of my favourite dialouge moments in the whole show.
He was annoying till season 4 ending when he finally let go, thats what makes him the best character in the show. The show had a lot of awesome characters but Jack was the best, he went full circle during the show and it didnt happen suddenly, it was painfully slow, he felt his old self die for his new self to come alive. Jack suffered more than most in Lost and thats what made the character, IMO, the best TV character ever.
i agree. the fact that it took him so long to let go made it more satisfying when he finally did
Mike Inglese John Locke suffered the most actually he had a sad life his dad was a horrible person and his mother was mentally ill and plus John was premature and his farther stole his kidney and was bullied when he was a kid and his dad pushed him out of a building which made him disabled had no caring family was raised in a foster home and a lot of people treated John Locke like less human than any other character John Locke has the most tragic life out of all the characters and at least jack listened to John after a bit of season five I’m glad he did cause that would of made John Locke’s day if he listened to him but he did in the end I like jack in a bit of season 5 and all of season 6 good character in the end in season 4 3 2 1 I hated jacks character but in a bit of season 5 and all of season 6 I like his character
Peter E I think John Locke is better but I like jack in season 5 and 6 he better in season 5 and 6
Always good to keep in your back pocket: This show was always about Jack.
Jack: hey can I tag along so I can kill you by surprise
MiB: sure mate there’s plenty of space
He couldn't get there without jack, only the protector can find the light
From the moment I saw this scene when I originally saw the episode, I saw FEAR in Flocke's eyes when Jack said "I'm gonna kill you". I've never seen this interpretation of this scene. To me, it's clear as day!
Season 6 was so cool, I mean yeah it had it's flaws, like not explaining certain things in enough depth, but it contained so many bad ass moments like this one. Also, Man in Black/Smokey/Flocke turned out to be one of my favorite Lost characters, he was hardcore.
9 years later it was actually good idk why many ppl hated it
Save the bullets for the right time!
1:31 MiB took a number 2 at that moment.
"And how do you plan to do that?" (Jack looks away, cool as a cucumber) "It's a surprise" Translation, "I got no fucking clue dude I'm making this up as I go along."
The music and tension at the end of this scene is so good .. Locke and jack the two most important faces of lost head to head . Obviously I know it’s not Locke but you get the point
Jack doesn't actually know how he's going to kill Smoky yet (the tilt of his head to the right while looking away is a tell).
No he knows that removing the cork will take away the islands powers. Even Jacob knew that, because he had the cork designed specifically to stop the flow of water when the cork was removed. The cork wasn't special, it was just a weight for a pressure plate mechanism. The main reason for the structures around the heart of the island was to keep people from being sucked in and turned into smoke monsters. But he could have done that without a cork design. And Jacob had to of tested it during its construction, knowing that removing water from the heart of the island would disable the islands powers. MIB likely lost his abilities during these tests too, but didn't realize it because it was probably a matter of minutes, so he just wouldn't know that he suddenly lost his immortality and ability to be a smoke monster during these tests. Basically, Jacob knew for thousands of years how to kill MIB, he just didn't want to have to, he was always hoping he could change MIB's mind.
@@peoplez129 Ahhh yes yes but does Jack know all of that about how it will affect MIB at that moment?
@@houseofdny He doesn't know for sure, but he does know that Desmond doing what he did is all part of the plan. Jack knows that he must trust his instincts, because Jacob wouldn't have chose him otherwise. This is why Jack attacks MIB outside of the cave. He knows that's the only choice he has available to him, so that must be the right course of action, and then he realizes MIB is no longer immortal and can be killed, which is what Jack was supposed to do at the right time.
Ah the famous saved bullet.
Jack could be such ass at times - impulsive controlling obstinate. But he always tried to do the right thing, no matter what - or in this scenes case, who - got in his way.
Euh sorry? What? Jack didn't care much about his friends? Have we seen the same show?!!
@@houdahyhe helped every injured person and of course was just standing his ground on a deserted island it's clear you didn't watch the same show.
Hey you are you still alive . Then give me a ♥️
lets get on with it
Shivers :)
Best series ever.
I enjoyed Lost for the most part, because of great scenes like this, despite being disappointed by the ending.
I dread to think what the quality of the show would have been like without Terry O'Quinn, brilliant actor!
What it really boils down to is that if Kate wasn't there, Jack would be dead. That's the whole point. They needed to do it together.
imagine showing this to someone who's only seen season 1
I always remembered "locke's" reply at 00:52 beeing "of course you did" maybe i was in another timeline in 2010? I was only 21 back then
Shit just got even more real.
Best lines ever
One-of-the-best_sequence-in-the--whole-series.Especially-look-of-worry-in-flocke-face.
I know just what you mean, even though they look identical I have to keep reminding myself that this is the same actor as Locke. He's very good in the new series 666 Park Avenue too.
Lets say somehow this exact video was available in 2006 after lost season 2, what would you think was going on?
The best scene of this serie.
just EPIC
First born: I hate you and I'm older
Second child: I hate you and I'll tell
Bah, yes she did. She was the one who bloody drove Jack to bothering to kill Smokie, she was the only one who even tried to lash out at him for killing three of their friends, and she was the one who actually ended up killing Smokey and saving Jack (albeit briefly). So I suppose you're right, actually, she didn't steal the scene. BITCH STOLE THE EPISODE!!!! BOOM.
As they all crest the hill, the only image I see is the fight scene entrances on Anchorman
Any links to listen to the background music at the start of this video ? Couldn't find it.
Bruh lmfaooo at Ben and Desmond for some reason
@LDMythos & Fake Locks reaction is great he did not expect that
So fucking good.
Jack's team Vs. The Man in Black's group
Does anyone know the instrument or the effect used at 1.30 mark? it's a haunting moan they use as like an audio que for MIB, mother or anything prophetic concerning the island.
To make the scene a lot better they should of added bullet holes in FLocke. Kate shoots him atleast 5 times yet there ain't no bullet holes. No holes nothing. But still this wa a powerful scene
Terry O Quinn the best actor ever.
epic scene really good and evil face to face !!!
@cryhwks Yeah. It's the first time he's not entirely confident of himself. Go, Jack!
godamn, this scene was tense..
whoaa.
Kate just went balls to the wall. Epic scene!!!
Can someone tell me where I can find the sound effect that plays right before Jack says, “I’m gonna kill you” ? Please and thank you.
@julianzolo Candidates to replace Jack if he dies, like Hurley does.
@curryshop6 The reason why no one did was to make Jack's sacrifice mean that much more because he saved everyone
he looks right in his eyes and says "I'm gonna kill you." fucking awesome. The only time on screen that MIB actually looks intimidated.
"It's a surprise."
SELAMAT DATANG DI MASA DEPAN
You can cut the tention with a spoon
Notice everyone else is sweating except Locke.Good attention to detail.
Yep, because he is not human
What do you mean "drove Jack to bothering to kill him"? I don't remember her making Jack want to do it, I think it was Jack who wanted to himself.. Also, yeah, she's the only one who lashed out at him...why's that a good thing? I think the other guys held back because they KNEW it was pointless to try and shoot him, they're not stupid like her. And yes, she managed to shoot him, which was always a bit of an unfair killing, as his back was turned. Jack's the one who had him distracted though.
I think even smokey didn’t know that he could die when what’s his name took that wooden thing out of that water.
Naw, when Jack was stitching her up she said "Locke did this. We have to kill him, Jack." And Jack was like "yehiknow". Well, like Ben said in season 4 after killing Keamy: Sometimes, good command decisions get compromised by bad emotional responses. Kate didn't care for her own safety in lashing out at him, and to me that screams "courageous" and to you it screams "stupid". Look at how terrified Sawyer looked when Kate stopped shooting: that wasn't non-stupidity holding him back. It was fear.
How you gonna kill me?
Its a surpise.
😂
I laughed hard at that. 😂
Jack was annoying in Season 2 as well. UNBELIEVABLY stubborn. I simply couldn't help but want to smack him in that one scene where Locke prevented Jack from getting into the room in the hatch where Sayid was beating Ben (Henry) senseless and Jack coerced John to give him the newly-changed combination, pinning him against a wall, not allowing him to press the button.
"I think" lol
0:24 i cheered when she shot him after what he did to Sun and Jin
Need more matthew fox
1:23 Desmond and Ben: BEAT HIS ASSSS
Being about 2000 years old one would assume death is a somewhat acceptable outcome, if i die, i die
Wait so was Jack in god mode in these little moments he was the protector but figured out that MiB could loose his own powers when the light was removed and that's why he waited to kill him?
I wouldn't call him the best, I really liked John Locke, but I do agree with a lot of what you said.
Well actually MIB has no team😂😂😂
I wondered if Charlie was still alive how he would react.
Probably trying to make it all about him or too busy snorting heroin tbh